How cynica-

Aw jeez I can't even do it, majorly bummed out by this

it was not death
it was not life
it was love

This isn't really upsetting nowadays, but still RIP hard. m/

what the fuck worst news ever

Rip in peace tbh

The last album was a pile of dog shit, hard to believe they'd release anything worthwhile now tbh.

it wasn't a pile of dogshit but it wasn't anything great. rip

ow man :[

well, actually, i wish both of them the best of luck regarding anything they're involved in, and i hope they can still be friends and move on with their lives and i sincerely hope a great life awaits for them ahead. band was m/ as fuck, and I love them to death, keep on rocking m/

forgot they put out that shitty last album tbh RIP hard tho

damn man, you guys don't be so negative! you didn't like their lastest, so what, just be positive!!! positive energies!!

again, i hope for the best for both of them and i can only wait what the future holds for both!!!!!!!!!!

RIP ugh, Focus and TIA two of the best albums ever m/

Kindly Bent was a good album, was excited to see where they would go from there. Bummer they couldn't make it work

Maybe they'll start a third chapter fifteen years from now.

My gut reaction is to say that this sucks, but if I'm being brutally honest, they haven't put out anything worthwhile since Traced In Air, so it's probably for the best.

ssouurce?

edit: fuck

the one guy is saying they aren't breaking up its just the drummer starting shit now idk whats going on

Apparently singer's claiming it's bs and they're still going just with new members. Shit's going down at the Cynic camp.

well fuck

oh guys don't be so petty >:[ cynic please

http://www.metalsucks.net/2015/09/10/paul-masvidal-on-cynic-break-up-this-is-all-news-to-me/

guys, it's 2015. please be upfront about things and discuss things with levelheadedness :[

well, i hope they can sort things out as adults and resolve whatever issue they might have, and i hope for the best for both of them in the future still !!!

Quite a shame but its for the best, I think most would agree that its better they break up now than put out sub par albums and trashing their discog

lol damn there is some drama, wtf

cynical*

So much childish drama being posted on Facebook by the band. Wtf

RIP Cynic

Sucks for those fans in China and Taiwan

honestly the impression I get is that they could be airing a lot more dirty laundry than they are currently so really this isn't that bad. I hope they can continue tho because Im a huge fan of theirs

Paul and Malone should get Danny Carey to play drums. Problem solved.

Rip, focus was all I ever needed

nuh uh oh no you didn't paul!

shiina ringo??

wat lol

i mean

yea i guess ur right

Edit: oh no they aren't breaking up but it appears the drummer has quit in a strange way.

eh, it's not like they were gonna get any better

such a shame. paul is the qt one too.

Paul is stickin' around tho.

i thought he was the one startin' shit
osmeone be like "we can't stop paul from playing cynic music with some backup band"

What about Lars? Perfect fit since he's known for his technicality 👍

loooooooooool

A Lars Ulrich joke? Is this fucking 2002?

how hard is to be like "I'm leaving the band" "fine but we'll keep going with a new drummer"
I mean with reinert leaving they probably should quit the whole thing but this kind of miscommunication is avoidable I don't know how this stuff still happens

le tearss

yeah they're being v. petty what's up with that

I don't claim to know for sure but it sure looks like the drummer quit and thought he could say the band was finished because he was.

I mean that's the only explanation I can think of but what kind of fucker would be like THE BAND IS OVER BECAUSE I QUIT what a tool. dudes a phenomenal drummer but damn no wonder there is tension in the band with an ego like that

Makes sense. Last release was awful, but I love these guys still.

Snap, crackle, and pop, Cynic.

yeah what a tool, what a cynic

Why did they have to split up 4 days after my birthday smh.

about 4/365 of people have had their birthdays in the last four days, they still had to do it someday so

bummer anyway :[

IN MAYA'S GRIP
PERCEIVING THUS
DUALITY

True that tempest

I don't fucking care if you're bitter about something, pulling this shit ain't kush (Reinert, looking at'chu.)

If this does turn out finalized, though, still a bummer. Kindly Bent wasn't their best, but it was still an interesting jam, and Carbon Based Anatomy was outstanding.

rust in peace Focus

i thought they were an indivisible goose egg... i guess they snap crackle popped

Well even after this I still believe we'll get a new Cynic album before a Tool one.

Kindly Bent wasn't their best [∞]

reminds me of the immortal breakup.

Wtf is going on on their facebook

yea he's definitely coming across as the douchiest motherfucker ever right now. it's pretty hilarious

jesus things are looking pretty ugly on facebook

some dude just posted a picture of snickers on their page, I'm dying

This is the funniest shit ever

'No wonder your band is failing you un-communicating fucktard' [2]

Tymon stuck up for Sean and Sean said Paul was completely unrehearsed for the Japan shows.

Pretty ugly on all sides tbh. Except Paul's cuz he's so damn pretty.

The biggest news out of all of this tho is Tymon confirming The Philosopher was about Paul

^ i understand virtually none of the words that left your fingers moments ago, wtf is this drama about ???

https://www.facebook.com/CynicOnline/posts/10153638966469936

apparently reinhart and masvidal were married?! wtf is going on anymore

i am literally so lost

pretty sure the marriage/divorce thing was just an analogy.

Sum: Masvidal came back from Japan and saw that this thing happened. Some drama later he said things like "Cynic will go on in a way or another" and picking a new drummer for the tour. Then Reinert said things like "You'll never be Cynic without me" and stuff like that.

yes they were married and had three children.

The biggest news out of all of this tho is Tymon confirming The Philosopher was about Paul

Tymon is the former second guitarist for Cynic, and he said he left Cynic for the same reasons as Sean essentially. Sean said he left Cynic because Paul basically just played to a backing track for the whole show. And also the Death song The Philosopher apparently is about how Chuck was sick of Paul's shit. Also Paul is the cute one here.Thats all.

So basically Sean's got all the beef but Paul's got all the seasoning

This band is garbage, and the way they are acting is ridiculous. Nothing of value lost.

must have been weird for paul to play the philosopher on the dta shows then

Idk theres a lot of people in the world it could have been about some cashier with a pixie cut talking about their spiritual beliefs or smth

every single aspect of this feud is stupid im so sick of this band lmao wow

My word that facebook page is a warzone!

okay I get that people are upset that this "feud" is on facebook and they don't seem like they are on the same page but cmon guys, they're human. I'm not saying they should act like that but shit happens and personal issues arise and when on tour I'm sure this shit is stressful as hell. They are still outstanding musicians and from what i've seen great people as well, sometimes shit just hits the fan so I hope they get this sorted out

dont care anymore

also i looked at their facebook and there were literally two posts, one from one guy and one from the other and neither of them were all that dramatic at all

all the comments from facebook users however, were indeed overly dramatic.

He took down one of the posts where he makes a terrible analogy to this being like a divorce

http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2015/09/11/sean-reinert-opens-up-about-the-status-of-cynic/

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12003386_885508328195844_2027294225984015233_n.jpg?oh=b09f1f1e8186df3b9cdce2b8dc69dd7a&oe=5666AD55

Band was only ever good on Focus so they could've stayed broken up after their first iteration tbh

Agreed Scream.

Band made one good album and their comeback has been nothing short of wank prog. For the best!

Who are these fucks that have been here for like 6 months and calling people by nicknames and shit lol..

This sucks though. Will listen to TiA.

hope they get back together

paul is cute [2]

ok so paul is like the katy perry of space ass metal; he's all kinda cute (im guessin katy perry is atractive to the st8 people here) but he lipsyncs every concert and is an ass in general?

katy perry is not really attractive imo but teenage dream is like the best song ever so :]

Did you ever care potsy?

tbh dont care anymore [2] their last album made me kinda stop caring about em

why

"soulless" gtfo

""soulless" gtfo" gtfo

cynic weren't average, they had two good albums that's more than what the avg band can say but yeah people are touchy rn, their music was like "eh it's cool" and it was pretty much soulless so I agree with you, idk where that staunch stance on their defense comes from

"Well, 1 good album, and then a steady decline, with the last few being pretty bad. It all balances out to average imo." -- yeah actually i take that back, it's just that ive been listening to a lot of music lately that simply isn't clicking on me so my idea of 'average' is like a 2.0 rn so of course cynic sounds an idyllic band for me rn lol

"Some people get antsy because they think words with negative connotations are insults rather than descriptors. Oh well... :]" -- yeah i mean, it's not a bad thing, it's just what it is. this band's discography is entirely soulless, i mean obviously it's not ani difranco so why react badly? it is just the truth !!

KK

lol @ the soulless criticisms. yall realize the whole point of their music since the beginning was to sound robotic and 'soulless' (alien would probably be a better descriptor) right? you would think the vocoder would be some sort of hint

that's like criticizing paysage d'hiver for sounding 'cold' or 'wintery'. they're not out here tryna be 'emotive' or w/e bs buzzwords people are posting itt

i wouldn't either, but people are confusing their deliberate otherworldly aesthetic for soullessness. if anything, their career post-retraced is when they tried to add a bit more 'soul' to their sound and coincidentally it's also when their career took a sharp nosedive in quality

There's not enough acoustic breaks for them to have soul sorry guys. Opeth on the other now THAT'S SOUL. HALO OF DEATH ALL I SEE IS DEPACHUUUUUUU, MOURNERS LAMENT BUT IT"S ME WHOS THE MARTUHH

honestly i'm just scrolling through on my phone and reading quotes on quotes. but yeah, i realize that you were just describing them now even though i still think you were still talking a subtle jab lol

Nimb's not confusing anything really he's just using a buzzword to justify his dislike of yet another band, nothing new. But of course Bar Sachiko is dripping with human emotion

SickoBolt

do it

gotta find another band to hear some projectile lyrical vomit from

Thank god their last album sucked so now I don't feel so bad.

sach u are such a tool sometimes its kind of painful to watch

ok so anyway

"lol @ the soulless criticisms" -- well i already said it was not a criticism, it is what it is tho, they're soulless. it's just a characteristic of their music, and that's that

"yall realize the whole point of their music since the beginning was to sound robotic and 'soulless' (alien would probably be a better descriptor) right?" --"soulless" is just the right descriptor I wanted to use tbh. And just because it's "meant" to sound that way doesn't mean i'm supposed to like it. jeffree star is supposed to sound like jeffree star, botdf is supposed to sound like botfd, etienne sin is supposed to sound like that, do i just 4.0 them out of principle or ...? u get my idea

"i wouldn't either, but people are confusing their deliberate otherworldly aesthetic for soullessness" -- nah i just think they're soulless, what do you know ! if it makes u feel better: they're soulless imo imo imo imo imo imo imo

and that's that !

asdfp just stop dude

well i already said it was not a criticism, it is what it is tho, they're soulless. it's just a characteristic of their music, and that's that

And just because it's "meant" to sound that way doesn't mean i'm supposed to like it. jeffree star is supposed to sound like jeffree star, botdf is supposed to sound like botfd, etienne sin is supposed to sound like that, do i just 4.0 them out of principle or ...? u get my idea

"yes, I haven't said they aren't"
"i wouldn't either, but people are confusing their deliberate otherworldly aesthetic for soullessness"
gurl please, no lmao

"I get your idea but it's a red herring, I never said cynic sound like cynic"
"cynic are supposed to sound robotic / 'soulless'"
gurl plz

"besides why are you talking about liking something, I thought you were simply describing them ;]"
because you are talking about quality, and were implying i did too. gurl pls, no

gurl, are you ok?

gurl no im gig the fuck out !

1. idk if you're being deliberately obtuse but what I'm saying is that I can agree that they sound soulless by your definition (which to be fair is still an assumption at this point, which is why I asked you to clarify what you meant), but is not the descriptor I would personally use because my definition of soulless is different. make sense?

2. that is not me saying cynic sound like cynic, but that the soullessness in question is deliberate. it's like criticizing Nile for sounding "middle eastern"

3. I'm not talking about quality at all, but rather the validity of a criticism? so if ur really weren't using it as a criticism this convo would have ended at "it was a descriptor" the end, like Sachiko said. I fully recant my original comment in that case

but then all of this means nothing if I don't know exactly what you mean by soulless, so if you could clarify that would be cool

stahp

no I would very much like to continue this pointless debate, don't fuck this up pots

not you keyblade, just asd and sach

"1. idk if you're being deliberately obtuse but what I'm saying that I can agree that they sound soulless by your definition (which is still an assumption at this point, which is why I asked you to clarify what you meant), but is not the descriptor I would personally use because my definition of soulless is different. make sense?"
-Well I mean you did say i was confusing one for another but i get it tho! but i do feel it's soulless, and not because of the robotic voice or their aesthetic, i just don't see emotion in it besides some chill ass space shit and stuff but yea

"2. that is not me saying cynic sound like cynic, but that the soullessness in question is deliberate. it's like criticizing Nile for sounding "middle eastern""
-then again i wasn't criticisn it, just syaing it's soulless af. and yeah, again, you're saying they're supposed to sound robotic and shit, and im tellin you nobody's supposed to 4.0 if for it. if nile sound middle eastern and shit, cool; jefree star is also supposed to sound like jeffree star sounds but i don't see yall defending him like that, cuz we're not supposed to like it for that

"3. I'm not talking about quality at all, but rather the validity of a criticism? so if ur really weren't using it as a criticism this convo would have ended at "it was a descriptor" the end, like Sachiko said. I fully recant my original comment in that case"
-the topic of quality was brought up, so i also talked about quality later. big mystery

guys if you don't like the discussion you can, you know, not. there's better ways you can waste your time away too so, you know, sashay away

yeah but if you don't like that we don't like the discussion you can, you know, shut the fuck up.

yes they were married and had three children.

well just tryna help, but you do you i guess !

so i realized I actually don't want to continue this debate because I'm not a fan of circles
asfdp let's just agree to disagree bruh

yeh u need to sort your thoughts out lest this lasts forever agreed lol

way to not be the bigger man asdfp

lmao dude the only one caring is you tho, not even keyblade cares but you do you i guess !

lets argue about who cares the most about the thing, then lets talk about who is the maddest, then we can decide who the real winner is!

Never listened to their music but I jammed like 5 minutes of TIA once and it was cool I guess. Their new stuff was shit though. If there's drama in the band then break up. Simple. Don't go pouting on the internet behind each other's backs like morons.

yeh they handled it very childishly, but yea u should check their first two ! >:]

Veil of Maya (band) >>>> Veil of Maya (song)

lol no

thanks for the aneurysm with this thread guys

It was at least an entertaining anyeurism

i think its amusing

Bitches gonna bitchpost like little bitches

The bitch fight they had on FB is almost as bad as the bitch fight in these comments.

It was at least an entertaining anyeurism

lolling at the difference in reactions b/w cynic's break up and elitists break up

"Veil of Maya (band) >>>> Veil of Maya (song)"

rofl

I read this article when it was posted but apparently I missed all the drama and fun :-(

Yeah, same here lol. God this sucks though, months after it's actually news, but it is for me so. Man, such a fucking BUMMER