yikes

What the actual fuck
I mean, there's the joy of creation and yadda yadda, but why would anyone work like that for free (especially since Chevelle seem to have been working on crazy tight schedules up until this point) without getting any money for it?
The things people do for their passion, I guess. Damn.

"Wondering what's next"...

This is bullshit. Now I can definitely see why they might be a bit burnt out.

Sucks, man. I get why Pete was thinking about putting Chevelle on hiatus, specially when touring is not a thing at this point...they should just go indie.

'Cause he'll say pay for ittttt, the whole summmmmm

lmaooo

These guys need to create their own label already. 25 years in the game and 10 albums later...

They make money off of tours and merch sales, like most bands do.

That being said, to not have made money on the album sales at all because of the contracts is bullshit. DEFINITELY go indie next time. The core fan base is there, you have support, you have your name, and even if you don't sell as many record off the major label, you'll still probably make more money off the records you do sell.

they need to make an onlyfans

"These guys need to create their own label already. 25 years in the game and 10 albums later..."

if The Maine can pull it off then they sure can as well

sounds like lars ulrich in that south park episode about napster

When he says they haven't made any money from record sales. Does he mean that literally?

prob means they make way less than you would think for a band that constantly tops the billboard charts

"we're sitting here wondering whats next" heh

most major labels record deals operate on the basis a label gives the artist a lump sum advance to support them and pay for studio time and such.

what then happens is that the label will then take back that amount from the record sales after its released and the artist won't see that money until the advance has been paid off by docking whatever cut they would have gotten (say 20-30%). most artists never make enough for that advance to be paid off and so technically don't have any income from sales at all.

and to that i say...word life; this is basic thuganomics

They should either sign to an indie label and negotiate a contract where they are able to make a decent profit or start a Patreon. I’ve seen a lot of bands and artists use that platform to supplement their income.

Chevelle would slaughter a patreon im sure

Definitely didn't expect that, they're a pretty well known band.

Hell, I’d probably subscribe to a Patreon if they started one. Circa Survive has one going and I’m thinking of subbing to that too. They’ve been releasing all sorts of cool stuff from the sound of it.

They still must make decent money off merch and tours (not this last year, rip), but this sucks.

"and we're stitting here wondering what's next"

heh

they need to make an onlyfans [x2]

Emery has a subscription method. I directly pay them $3 a month for digital access to their music catalogue and they do 4 eps a year and an lp a year for subscribers

If bands at independent labels need to buy their own records to sell at gigs and online, I can only imagine what shitty deal they have with Warner.

yeah this is why Protest the Hero did that one album via kickstarter, bc they didn't want to have to get a loan from a label in order to rent studio time. If you've got the fanbase you should definitely look into indie funding.

i hope this current news and album cycle they are in gives us a Point #2 album. would love that

if The Classic Crime can survive as an indiegogo/kickstarter band, Chevelle can absolutely make a killing

"Emery has a subscription method. I directly pay them $3 a month for digital access to their music catalogue and they do 4 eps a year and an lp a year for subscribers"

wait, was there a subscriber-only LP last year or was White Line Fever their only LP?

I was under the impression that a lot of their fans want them to experiment more anyway and get heavier, even. Maybe being indie would give them more freedom but obviously some people just like radio rock Chevelle. Not me, though. It's fun enough for what it is though but I mean 10 records of that sound would make anybody insane.

Record contracts are a curse. Theres been quite a few bands to go the patreon route and find plenty of success. Chevelle would be another one I'm sure and then some.

"and we're stitting here wondering what's next"

heh [2]

ya I saw this and immediately thought oh he's hinting at a reissue duh

Also Darkest Hour's patreon is pretty cool.im gonna check circa's

This sounds fucking depressing. There's a limit where you can do things out of passion.

Man, no wonder these guys wanna take a hiatus. This is bullshit.

Definitely picking up a copy of the new one

Sure chevelle isnt the only band. And yeah touring and merch for income, but how well is that going in the past year for most bands? Don't think this is anything new, sadly you agree to fine print when you sign, but it does suck all the same.

Are people really still surprised by shit like this? Back in the 90s TLC literally went bankrupt because their label fucked them over so bad, and back then the industry was about a thousand times more profitable for artists than it is now

In times where bands are prived from playing live makes it all even more repulsive.

This is bullshit, fuck labels and the industry [76]

This is something a lot of music fans don't get. Bands make 95% of their money off of touring and merchandise. The albums from a business perspective create the opportunity to tour but don't help the band at all.

Exactly. pete complaining here about the obvious is more upsetting tbh.

Ugh, I have heard stuff like this before and it super sucks

That's the main reason I bought the signed copy and a beanie when I pre ordered the album, so I was throwing some extra money their way since they can't tour at the moment

Big labels fuck bands, especially when said label has bigger artists on their roster

lmao

wow I actually lol'd thank you

They must have signed a terrible contract without realizing it or they had a shit lawyer.
They're big enough now they should be able to be independent, hope everything works out for them.

Yeah it’s annoying how some people in this thread read this story and thought “They’re just mad because of piracy lol”

Chevelle in Sumerian Records is coming haha

RISE RECORDS

earache records

Poodle Pluto Records

FUELED BY RAMEN

This sucks. What about bandcamp? I'm no expert, but I know 2 things. Bandcamp gives more money to their artists than any other like iTunes, Amazon etc.
That's why I always go Bandcamp if possible.
I also know that streaming services like Spotify and alike are the worst, you'd have to listen to an album 1500 times so the band gets their $10. It's ridiculous.

What Sach said

Base exploitation is universal at the hands of a small selection of tycoons. Kill 'em all, not even all that big a list to get through

To those saying there’s only so far you can go on passion without money just look at this quote:
‘We just handed in our last one for Sony/Epic’
Sounds like the passion was long gone and this was just an obligation
A lot of us here are musicians and I know personally when I make stuff that I’m proud of it, I’m buzzing, I don’t make a product to hand over to the boss!

From what I read they don't like this release all that much lol

which makes it so funny that it's being hailed on here as their big comeback (it is a really good album though)

If they make such strong albums as an obligation, I can't wait to hear the next one lol.

"As of 2021, Pete Loeffler has an estimated net worth of $2 million. His earnings as a singer are in the range of $45k to $65k"

And that folks is why you read any papers before you sign them

i mean lots of times a band might view this as their one shot and they take it, tho, its still shitty that record labels are using such predatory contracts to benefit from a musician's desire to be signed and get access to recording and distribution.

They should start a healing aloe plant business

Maybe lawyer up when making a deal next time would help. I'm sure indie labels can fuck you too, but a lawyer would probably know how to spot a bad deal.

Chevelle felt the pain below.

They signed the same shitass deal over and over again for the last 25 years.... YIKES

Pretty sure they only signed one deal that made it so they had to record the 8 albums with epic. Also indie labels can be just as fucked

I don't like their music, but it sucks that they're not getting paid properly.

Is there a musicians union? If not there should be

Didn’t this happen with Thirty Seconds to Mars? They made a whole documentary on how they’ve made no money off of album sales

Edit: I answered my own fucking question

That Hollywood money though

Leto was pretty cool back in the day.

Thats why they had to tour all the time, they get all of the cash from the gigs and the swag/merch sold during the shows.

You just answered your own question

thats why all, or most bands, tour these days.

even now big labels are trying to pocket merch money too