I mean, no shit. Whether it's true or not, he wouldn't just be like "YUP, I TOTALLY FUCKED THAT GIRL UP. WHAT NOW."

does this article exist just so we can rehash the drama of the last thread?

sold.

Imma go make myself a popcorn.

"Fortunately, there are many witnesses who can and will confirm that I was never abusive to Alice.”

I mean, doesn't everyyyyyone abuse someone right in front of witnesses? Eyeroll city

"I once saw Ethan not abusing her."

good luck with that testimony

i think the fairest bet-hedging thing to do right now is have them both abused by a neutral third party, and then we can all go on with our sad lives like before..

yeah it was SputnikMusic based on that last thread

I mean, just look at the fucking dude for christ's sake.

he looks like that dude from Gossip

can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level

he's just middle eastern

"can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles" lol

Chuck knows what's up

he's italian i'm p sure. regardless, dude looks like a fucking creep.

he looks like elliott smith

His nose looks like Triple H's

"can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level"

what the fuck lol crystal castles are not even close to being an unknown group

His nose had one too many pedigrees

"what the fuck lol crystal castles are not even close to being an unknown group"

theres a difference between being "unknown" and being "pretty much no one gives a shit"

until the SpicyDrama comes out of course

Yea I didn't know who they were before these articles popped up, still pretty shitty situation

lmao butcher

Unless you're a music geek, no regular person has ever heard of crystal castles. I could legit ask the 30 other people in the room I'm working "Hey, does anyone know what Crystal Castles is?" and the most common answer would probably be a dive bar at Ocean City Maryland.

" I could legit ask the 30 other people in the room I'm working "Hey, does anyone know what Crystal Castles is?""

we're in a music website

they were extremely popular circa 2008. are you guys like 70 or something? [2]

Define extremely popular? What, they sold out a tour that played to crowd sizes around a few hundred. Cool. That's not extremely popular. Extremely popular is like your mom and dad going to see that "new band" The Black Keys at the local hockey arena because they love that one song on the radio. That's extremely popular.

I'm by no means downplaying the terrible shit that happened, but I can also think it's laughable that people think Crystal castles is a popular band. If anything they were popular within a very very small niche in the music scene and nothing more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32udqal_lyQ
17 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vStjmYxetY0
9.5 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsxNUl1IHnE
5.5 million views

they were heavily featured on mtv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2gdbQpESNY
14 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56E8yYgLNHE
11 million views

I mean all I listened to from like 2008-2013 was metalcore so I never heard of them, even when I expanded my taste somewhat I never heard of them until now

that's on u dude

ya ofc they aren't selling out arenas but they are a known quantity to a good amount of people with any sort of active interest in music

Cool, their songs have millions of views, so do thousands of other bands/artists. Doesn't change my opinion that they were never that popular. Just because they're a recognizable name to small communities of die hard music fans who are in the 1% of the population doesn't prove anything.

...wait, what are we arguing about now?

I like where this thread is going

Chuck made a really non controversial observation and commented "can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level" and now other users are up in arms that anyone could possibly downplay their undisputed success and popularity

"one of the saddest things i've ever read"

Ok fam, I'll just keep listening to it to make you spiral into a deep depression that you'll never crawl out of < 3

lol

All good broski

How do people not know who CC is? lolwut

hs metalcore is great tho

""they're a recognizable name to small communities of die hard music fans"

bruh you realize where you are right now, yeah?"

Yeah, and I'm honest enough to know that I'm part of a minority and that my knowledge and appreciation of music is not the same as others. Hell you can't be on this website for a day without knowing who Converge is, and guess what, no one else in the world for the most part knows who the hell Converge is or cares. Using a users knowledge on Sputnik as the baseline test for what constitutes being "extremely popular" is asinine.

I mean, I was aware of them back when I was in college, but I will fully admit to having heard maybe one song? Just one of those band I heard of but never checked out (of which there are probably literally thousands).

"i'm not "up in arms," just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

oh shittttt

You must have been living under a rock Dino, how on earth could a music savant like yourself never hear of Crystal Castles before and only listen to one of their songs, they're extremely popular you know

holy shit lol

"i'm not "up in arms," just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

oh shittttt

If you mean retirement community as in the real world and your echo chamber as the studded belt section at hot topic then sure man

"i'm not 'up in arms,' just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypot3CYECwE

haha

oh wow

Oddly enough, I like where this thread is going more than the other one...

"If you mean retirement community as in the real world and your echo chamber as the studded belt section at hot topic then sure man"

that literally makes no sense whatsoever lol

this is great

Arguing about the relevance of this band is actually probably the most positive direction this conversation could have gone.

Really though, I heard of these guys years ago. I didn't care for their music, but I was aware of them.

This is an unfortunate situation and I hope the truth comes to light.

on a slightly different topic, does him naming the new album Amnesty (I) mean there'll be more shit music to come as Amnesty (II)?

I don't know, but it seems at this point that the only way he's getting out of jail is with an Amnesty (II)

amnesty wasn't bad tbh

edit: lol i was thinking of (iii)

Sweet we're not talking about rape anymore

Amnesty (III) will be him asking forgiveness of this fans, who according to this thread could number anywhere between several million and 6..

their record label's statement was basically just 'shit sorry wasn't paying attention lmao'

I'm waiting for his OJ Inspired mixtape - Amnesty IV: If I Did It

potsy likes this band too, begrudgingly

Amnesty (V: Excooz the abooz)

Just want to say that the Alice Glass EP is better than anything Kath has put out since her departure from CC.

Amnesty (VI: I've Found Jesus)

the alice glass ep sucked imo, but so did the songs with the new girl

Amnesty (VII: Second vocalist allegations, Jesus wept)

band should just fuck off

Amnesty (VI: Sorries to Alice)

"does this article exist just so we can rehash the drama of the last thread?"

"I mean, no shit. Whether it's true or not, he wouldn't just be like "YUP, I TOTALLY FUCKED THAT GIRL UP. WHAT NOW.""

I think you've missed the point here.

'I think you've missed the point here.'

Genuinely asking, what is the point, then? Because this is all stuff we already knew, right?

actually yeah, this is nothing that we didn't know was gonna happen, it's not any interesting development of the case

although the "whilst their professional relationship was occasionally volatile" isn't doing ethan any favors lol

it very intentionally doesn't point fingers though

That's not uncommon for many bands though, just depends on what happens after the volatility.

yes, that's true

ye can you explain the point to me here sweeney

this is almost as bad as the last thread

crystal castles' debut was massively hyped by alternative music sites in the vein of pitchfork (no idea what they specifically thought of the band but you know that style of website), british music press hyped them, they got late night radioplay on the alternative shows, most people into indie/electronic music would have heard of them

'can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level'

like wtf is that supposed to mean, that we shouldn't take this seriously because they arent fucking radiohead? better stop with the rip articles guys whenever someone dies, they probably were from some small band no one cared about

123 sint

fuck, this is in my 'my discussions' tab forever now

i think the point was: let them and a judge resolve the issue themselves, don't get involved since u know nothing about them personally (?

Lol this thread

lol u

Adolf please don't add any more comments to this thread lol

Heres another one for ya.

Ok that's fine, but nothing regarding the situation at hand please

Just read the other thread, and it's kind of ridiculous how much shit Adolf is getting

that's because it's a bunch of people who already were waiting for an opportunity to insult Adolf

'that's because it's a bunch of people who already were waiting for an opportunity to insult Adolf'

ya as someone who has previously insulted Adolf, I was surprised by the shit he got in the other thread

he wasn't being the worst until people provoked him

lol that's so pathetic to leverage this situation to accomplish that

and playing the moral high ground by saying "this is a serious situation, let's comment responsibly" is just hypocritical

totally

There were plenty of people agreeing with me. Its ok though, ill be the whipping boy. I knew what i was signing up for when i made my username AdolfChrist.

perhaps if you didn't constantly spout the most detached from reality opinions it wouldn't happen

@Adolf, imagine how the user BuddhaStalinMugabeVonBinLaden feels

"I think its a good idea to remain neutral."

Woooo, so craaaazzzyyy, what will he say next??

Anyways, im not getting into all of that again. I just think its funny that people act like the things i was saying were way out there and totally unreasonable.

@butcher lmao

Ethan is low key a rapist

i'm still surprised the song adolf based his username from was so good

REICH UND ROOOOOOOLLL

@superluminals don't know if I'd consider being in a band with the person you're sexually assaulting for 10+ years to be "low key"

he'd previously been accused of similar misconduct by the dulcimer player in his first band, Shih Tsu Flip Flop..

http://www.cpr.org/sites/default/files/images/crystal-castles-50d43e4b0b77c.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/796bfa5753696274e02f78825d57fcee/tumblr_o6ltsbQ10d1uwpi4no2_1280.jpg

“Pure fiction”.... right....

ok i believe him

i like fiction

Her story was more well written so I'm going to side with Glass

im uhhh... getting a lawyer

ethan's statement is too cold, too impersonal

"I once saw Ethan not abusing her."

lmao

He doesn't do not looking like a creeper very well

"Fortunately, there are many witnesses who can and will confirm that I was never abusive to Alice.”

lol how does this work, unless he can somehow prove said ppl were with the 2 of them for every moment they were together

@JAV
They both look extremely creepy

And yeah Sach, what good is a 'witness' going to be when most of the events she described happened in a private 1-on-1 context

"Unless you're a music geek, no regular person has ever heard of crystal castles."

he said of a band that fills stadiums and has toured with nine inch nails

nine inch who?

More like Nine Inch NOBODIES amirite or amirite people

You are not, in fact, right

my cousin's a music major, i'll ask him who they are.

ZippaThaFactChecka

You may remember Crystal Castles from their short feature on the hit British teen drama "Skins"

i want t hear ediths thoughts

"P L E H D N E S"

"You may remember Crystal Castles from their short feature on the hit British teen drama "Skins""

Anybody else read this in a Troy McClure voice

I like their music a lot, and this shit is infuriating, I hope she gets justice. Her solo EP is really solid i think. Glad she's doing well without that piece of shit.

@JAV
They both look extremely creepy

I can't argue with this.