Ethan Kath denies abuse

2017-10-27 by SweeneyTodd | 130 Comments
Ethan Kath of Crystal Castles has denied Alice Glass' allegations of sexual, physical and emotional abuse. Kath said:

“I am outraged and hurt by the recent statements made by Alice about me and our prior relationship. Her story is pure fiction and I am consulting my lawyers as to my legal options. Fortunately, there are many witnesses who can and will confirm that I was never abusive to Alice.”

One of the bands former managers, James Sandom, stated:

"I can offer no further insight to these accusations, during our time managing Crystal Castles whilst their professional relationship was occasionally volatile, their personal relationship was never fully clear."

More news will be posted when it arises. You can read more at the following links:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/crystal-castles-ethan-kath-has-denied-claims-bandmate-alice/

http://www.nme.com/news/music/crystal-castles-tour-dates-cancelled-ethan-kath-rape-allegations-2153776

Tagged: Crystal Castles

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DinosaurJones
October 27th 2017
6199 Comments


I mean, no shit. Whether it's true or not, he wouldn't just be like "YUP, I TOTALLY FUCKED THAT GIRL UP. WHAT NOW."

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Frivolous
October 27th 2017
352 Comments


does this article exist just so we can rehash the drama of the last thread?

sold.

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UniqueUniverse
October 27th 2017
7818 Comments


Imma go make myself a popcorn.

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coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


"Fortunately, there are many witnesses who can and will confirm that I was never abusive to Alice.”

I mean, doesn't everyyyyyone abuse someone right in front of witnesses? Eyeroll city

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Sevengill
October 27th 2017
7408 Comments


"I once saw Ethan not abusing her."

good luck with that testimony

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


i think the fairest bet-hedging thing to do right now is have them both abused by a neutral third party, and then we can all go on with our sad lives like before..

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Sevengill
October 27th 2017
7408 Comments


yeah it was SputnikMusic based on that last thread

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


I mean, just look at the fucking dude for christ's sake.

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


he looks like that dude from Gossip

guitarded_chuck
October 27th 2017
13666 Comments


can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


he's just middle eastern

"can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles" lol

JAV
October 27th 2017
2780 Comments


Chuck knows what's up

suppatime
October 27th 2017
882 Comments


he's italian i'm p sure. regardless, dude looks like a fucking creep.

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


he looks like elliott smith

bloc
October 27th 2017
44292 Comments


His nose looks like Triple H's

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Chortles
October 27th 2017
20841 Comments


"can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level"

what the fuck lol crystal castles are not even close to being an unknown group

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coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


His nose had one too many pedigrees

guitarded_chuck
October 27th 2017
13666 Comments


"what the fuck lol crystal castles are not even close to being an unknown group"

theres a difference between being "unknown" and being "pretty much no one gives a shit"

until the SpicyDrama comes out of course

SteakByrnes
October 27th 2017
4562 Comments


Yea I didn't know who they were before these articles popped up, still pretty shitty situation

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hal1ax
October 27th 2017
9193 Comments


lmao butcher

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


Unless you're a music geek, no regular person has ever heard of crystal castles. I could legit ask the 30 other people in the room I'm working "Hey, does anyone know what Crystal Castles is?" and the most common answer would probably be a dive bar at Ocean City Maryland.

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


they were extremely popular circa 2008. are you guys like 70 or something?

also "i don't care if she was assaulted because i'm not familiar with her band" is a bad and dumb take.

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


" I could legit ask the 30 other people in the room I'm working "Hey, does anyone know what Crystal Castles is?""

we're in a music website

they were extremely popular circa 2008. are you guys like 70 or something? [2]

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

lol opeth? nope never heard of them you fuckin nerd

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


Define extremely popular? What, they sold out a tour that played to crowd sizes around a few hundred. Cool. That's not extremely popular. Extremely popular is like your mom and dad going to see that "new band" The Black Keys at the local hockey arena because they love that one song on the radio. That's extremely popular.

I'm by no means downplaying the terrible shit that happened, but I can also think it's laughable that people think Crystal castles is a popular band. If anything they were popular within a very very small niche in the music scene and nothing more.

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32udqal_lyQ
17 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vStjmYxetY0
9.5 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsxNUl1IHnE
5.5 million views

they were heavily featured on mtv



newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


extremely popular as in people who give a shit about current music in general tend to know who they are. not saying they're the fucking beatles or anything man.

(also just ftr i'm not a fan of their music)

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2gdbQpESNY
14 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56E8yYgLNHE
11 million views

SteakByrnes
October 27th 2017
4562 Comments


I mean all I listened to from like 2008-2013 was metalcore so I never heard of them, even when I expanded my taste somewhat I never heard of them until now

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


that's on u dude

Chortles
October 27th 2017
20841 Comments


ya ofc they aren't selling out arenas but they are a known quantity to a good amount of people with any sort of active interest in music

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


"I mean all I listened to from like 2008-2013 was metalcore"

one of the saddest things i've ever read

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


Cool, their songs have millions of views, so do thousands of other bands/artists. Doesn't change my opinion that they were never that popular. Just because they're a recognizable name to small communities of die hard music fans who are in the 1% of the population doesn't prove anything.

DinosaurJones
October 27th 2017
6199 Comments


...wait, what are we arguing about now?

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


"they're a recognizable name to small communities of die hard music fans"

bruh you realize where you are right now, yeah?

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


I like where this thread is going

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


@dino whether or not people know who this band is, apparently.

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


Chuck made a really non controversial observation and commented "can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level" and now other users are up in arms that anyone could possibly downplay their undisputed success and popularity

SteakByrnes
October 27th 2017
4562 Comments


"one of the saddest things i've ever read"

Ok fam, I'll just keep listening to it to make you spiral into a deep depression that you'll never crawl out of < 3

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


i'm already there dude

also i hope it was obvious that i was just messing w/ you 🤣

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


lol

SteakByrnes
October 27th 2017
4562 Comments


All good broski

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


How do people not know who CC is? lolwut

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


hs metalcore is great tho

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


i'm not "up in arms," just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is.

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


""they're a recognizable name to small communities of die hard music fans"

bruh you realize where you are right now, yeah?"

Yeah, and I'm honest enough to know that I'm part of a minority and that my knowledge and appreciation of music is not the same as others. Hell you can't be on this website for a day without knowing who Converge is, and guess what, no one else in the world for the most part knows who the hell Converge is or cares. Using a users knowledge on Sputnik as the baseline test for what constitutes being "extremely popular" is asinine.

DinosaurJones
October 27th 2017
6199 Comments


I mean, I was aware of them back when I was in college, but I will fully admit to having heard maybe one song? Just one of those band I heard of but never checked out (of which there are probably literally thousands).

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


"i'm not "up in arms," just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

oh shittttt

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


You must have been living under a rock Dino, how on earth could a music savant like yourself never hear of Crystal Castles before and only listen to one of their songs, they're extremely popular you know

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


holy shit lol

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


"i'm not "up in arms," just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

oh shittttt

If you mean retirement community as in the real world and your echo chamber as the studded belt section at hot topic then sure man

RobertZDar
October 27th 2017
30 Comments


"i'm not 'up in arms,' just feeling sorry for how closed-in your retirement community is."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypot3CYECwE

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


haha

oh wow

DinosaurJones
October 27th 2017
6199 Comments


Oddly enough, I like where this thread is going more than the other one...

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


"If you mean retirement community as in the real world and your echo chamber as the studded belt section at hot topic then sure man"

that literally makes no sense whatsoever lol

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


this is great

Pibolar
October 27th 2017
20 Comments


Arguing about the relevance of this band is actually probably the most positive direction this conversation could have gone.

Really though, I heard of these guys years ago. I didn't care for their music, but I was aware of them.

This is an unfortunate situation and I hope the truth comes to light.

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


on a slightly different topic, does him naming the new album Amnesty (I) mean there'll be more shit music to come as Amnesty (II)?

UniqueUniverse
October 27th 2017
7818 Comments


I don't know, but it seems at this point that the only way he's getting out of jail is with an Amnesty (II)

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


amnesty wasn't bad tbh

edit: lol i was thinking of (iii)

newfoundgloryhole666
October 27th 2017
124 Comments


"Arguing about the relevance of this band is actually probably the most positive direction this conversation could have gone."

this is really a good point, but i still think we should all apologize to jwt155 for having heard of this group. this has gone far enough.

bloc
October 27th 2017
44292 Comments


Sweet we're not talking about rape anymore

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


Amnesty (III) will be him asking forgiveness of this fans, who according to this thread could number anywhere between several million and 6..

wwf
October 27th 2017
5660 Comments


their record label's statement was basically just 'shit sorry wasn't paying attention lmao'

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JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


I'm waiting for his OJ Inspired mixtape - Amnesty IV: If I Did It

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


potsy likes this band too, begrudgingly

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


Amnesty (V: Excooz the abooz)

coldheaven
October 27th 2017
322 Comments


Just want to say that the Alice Glass EP is better than anything Kath has put out since her departure from CC.

JWT155
October 27th 2017
13599 Comments


Amnesty (VI: I've Found Jesus)

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


the alice glass ep sucked imo, but so did the songs with the new girl

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


Amnesty (VII: Second vocalist allegations, Jesus wept)

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


band should just fuck off

UniqueUniverse
October 27th 2017
7818 Comments


Amnesty (VI: Sorries to Alice)

SweeneyTodd
October 27th 2017
1458 Comments


"does this article exist just so we can rehash the drama of the last thread?"

"I mean, no shit. Whether it's true or not, he wouldn't just be like "YUP, I TOTALLY FUCKED THAT GIRL UP. WHAT NOW.""

I think you've missed the point here.

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wwf
October 27th 2017
5660 Comments


'I think you've missed the point here.'

Genuinely asking, what is the point, then? Because this is all stuff we already knew, right?

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


actually yeah, this is nothing that we didn't know was gonna happen, it's not any interesting development of the case

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


although the "whilst their professional relationship was occasionally volatile" isn't doing ethan any favors lol

wwf
October 27th 2017
5660 Comments


it very intentionally doesn't point fingers though

JAV
October 27th 2017
2780 Comments


That's not uncommon for many bands though, just depends on what happens after the volatility.

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


yes, that's true

Frivolous
October 27th 2017
352 Comments


ye can you explain the point to me here sweeney

Sinternet
October 27th 2017
14848 Comments


this is almost as bad as the last thread

crystal castles' debut was massively hyped by alternative music sites in the vein of pitchfork (no idea what they specifically thought of the band but you know that style of website), british music press hyped them, they got late night radioplay on the alternative shows, most people into indie/electronic music would have heard of them

'can we stop pretending we have heard of crystal castles and care about these people on a personal level'

like wtf is that supposed to mean, that we shouldn't take this seriously because they arent fucking radiohead? better stop with the rip articles guys whenever someone dies, they probably were from some small band no one cared about



Satellite
October 27th 2017
25649 Comments


123 sint

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Satellite
October 27th 2017
25649 Comments


fuck, this is in my 'my discussions' tab forever now

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


i think the point was: let them and a judge resolve the issue themselves, don't get involved since u know nothing about them personally (?

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


Lol this thread

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wwf
October 27th 2017
5660 Comments


lol u

bloc
October 27th 2017
44292 Comments


Adolf please don't add any more comments to this thread lol

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


Heres another one for ya.

bloc
October 27th 2017
44292 Comments


Ok that's fine, but nothing regarding the situation at hand please

Shoegazefan9789
October 27th 2017
708 Comments


Just read the other thread, and it's kind of ridiculous how much shit Adolf is getting

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


that's because it's a bunch of people who already were waiting for an opportunity to insult Adolf

wwf
October 27th 2017
5660 Comments


'that's because it's a bunch of people who already were waiting for an opportunity to insult Adolf'

ya as someone who has previously insulted Adolf, I was surprised by the shit he got in the other thread

he wasn't being the worst until people provoked him

Shoegazefan9789
October 27th 2017
708 Comments


lol that's so pathetic to leverage this situation to accomplish that

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


and playing the moral high ground by saying "this is a serious situation, let's comment responsibly" is just hypocritical

Shoegazefan9789
October 27th 2017
708 Comments


totally

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


There were plenty of people agreeing with me. Its ok though, ill be the whipping boy. I knew what i was signing up for when i made my username AdolfChrist.

Sinternet
October 27th 2017
14848 Comments


perhaps if you didn't constantly spout the most detached from reality opinions it wouldn't happen

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


@Adolf, imagine how the user BuddhaStalinMugabeVonBinLaden feels

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


"I think its a good idea to remain neutral."

Woooo, so craaaazzzyyy, what will he say next??

Anyways, im not getting into all of that again. I just think its funny that people act like the things i was saying were way out there and totally unreasonable.

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


@butcher lmao

superluminals
October 27th 2017
948 Comments


Ethan is low key a rapist

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


i'm still surprised the song adolf based his username from was so good

AdolfChrist
October 27th 2017
13024 Comments


REICH UND ROOOOOOOLLL

NastyCrab
October 27th 2017
696 Comments


@superluminals don't know if I'd consider being in a band with the person you're sexually assaulting for 10+ years to be "low key"

butcherboy
Contributing Reviewer
October 27th 2017
5674 Comments


he'd previously been accused of similar misconduct by the dulcimer player in his first band, Shih Tsu Flip Flop..

Storm In A Teacup
October 27th 2017
22229 Comments


http://www.cpr.org/sites/default/files/images/crystal-castles-50d43e4b0b77c.jpg

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


https://78.media.tumblr.com/796bfa5753696274e02f78825d57fcee/tumblr_o6ltsbQ10d1uwpi4no2_1280.jpg

cylinder
October 27th 2017
1149 Comments


“Pure fiction”.... right....



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BlacKapes
October 27th 2017
1920 Comments


ok i believe him

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


i like fiction

ZippaThaRippa
October 27th 2017
10289 Comments


Her story was more well written so I'm going to side with Glass

Tyler.
October 27th 2017
13779 Comments


im uhhh... getting a lawyer

Asdfp277
October 27th 2017
15808 Comments


ethan's statement is too cold, too impersonal

Spec
October 28th 2017
34816 Comments




"I once saw Ethan not abusing her."

lmao

JAV
October 28th 2017
2780 Comments


He doesn't do not looking like a creeper very well

Keyblade
October 28th 2017
25007 Comments


"Fortunately, there are many witnesses who can and will confirm that I was never abusive to Alice.”

lol how does this work, unless he can somehow prove said ppl were with the 2 of them for every moment they were together

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ZippaThaRippa
October 28th 2017
10289 Comments


@JAV
They both look extremely creepy

And yeah Sach, what good is a 'witness' going to be when most of the events she described happened in a private 1-on-1 context

LordePots
October 28th 2017
38251 Comments


"Unless you're a music geek, no regular person has ever heard of crystal castles."

he said of a band that fills stadiums and has toured with nine inch nails

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Satellite
October 28th 2017
25649 Comments


nine inch who?

Kompys2000
October 28th 2017
920 Comments


More like Nine Inch NOBODIES amirite or amirite people

ZippaThaRippa
October 28th 2017
10289 Comments


You are not, in fact, right

Satellite
October 28th 2017
25649 Comments


my cousin's a music major, i'll ask him who they are.

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
October 28th 2017
5899 Comments


ZippaThaFactChecka

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ZippaThaRippa
October 28th 2017
10289 Comments


You may remember Crystal Castles from their short feature on the hit British teen drama "Skins"

LordePots
October 28th 2017
38251 Comments


i want t hear ediths thoughts

ZippaThaRippa
October 28th 2017
10289 Comments


"P L E H D N E S"

Kompys2000
October 28th 2017
920 Comments


"You may remember Crystal Castles from their short feature on the hit British teen drama "Skins""

Anybody else read this in a Troy McClure voice

Brabiz
October 29th 2017
892 Comments


I like their music a lot, and this shit is infuriating, I hope she gets justice. Her solo EP is really solid i think. Glad she's doing well without that piece of shit.

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JAV
October 31st 2017
2780 Comments


@JAV
They both look extremely creepy

I can't argue with this.



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