Absolutely horrible news! R.I.P.
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RIP hard, 2017 is just getting worse and worse
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RIP. Haven't listened to LP in years so this hit me harder than I expected. Loss of life is always tragic. Regardless of what i thought of his music.
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Still not as bad as 2016, though.
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Jesus Fuck.
And to go out on a 1.6.....
Hybrid Theory and Meteora was jams tho
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This is certainly something I never thought I'd read. RIP. Gonna be jammin' the first two albums hard tomorrow in memorium.
Haven't listened to LP in years so this hit me harder than I expected.
Same here. I've almost forgotten how affecting the band's music was when I was young. Those feelings are resurfacing with this news.
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RIP
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Unreal to hear this RIP
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What the actual fuck. Rip hard
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still hasn't sunk in
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Hard RIP. I will always respect this band and its members for being a part of my childhood.
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"Still not as bad as 2016, though."
Shhh don't give 2017 any ideas.
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"Still not as bad as 2016, though."
yeah but at least 2016 was consistent in amazing music throughout. 2017 hasn't produced as much if you ask me.
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Bennington said earlier this month that Linkin Park fans should "move the fuck on" from the formative sound of the band's debut album, Hybrid Theory. He also admonished those disregarding the band as sell-outs by saying they should "stab [themselves] in the face!"
"If you’re gonna be the person who says like 'they made a marketing decision to make this kind of record to make money' you can fucking meet me outside and I will punch you in your fucking mouth because that is the wrong fucking answer."
"Because guess what, calling us a sell out for that purpose is… selling out on your fucking excuse as to why you don’t like it. You’re a fucking pussy. For any band to take musical risks because you like what you’re doing in spite of what you know some people will say they don’t like, it doesn’t matter if they like it or not – what matters is that you took the chance to do something that you felt was important to you and that’s what being an artist is all about."
you all broke him
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Hard RIP
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The lyrics to In The End are making me tear up.
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He and Chris Cornell were very close, I can't imagine Chester ever got over Cornell's suicide. And he died on what would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday too 
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Words can't express how much Linkin Park's music has helped me over the years, Meteora, Minutes to Midnight, and Living Things in particular I have so many memories with. This is an absolute shock, and no-one expected it. I sincerely hope his family, band brothers and everyone who knew him personally are able to get through this. This is a horrifying situation, the world will miss Chester and all that he created. I'm honestly still in shock myself, and haven't felt this shocked by a musician's death since the Rev of Avenged Sevenfold passed all those years ago. Hard RIP, jamming Linkin Park right now in his honor.
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Surreal, man. This was so out of left field and is hitting me a lot harder than I would think it might. I haven't even been a huge fan of LP since Meteora, but there's no denying how important that and Hybrid Theory were to me, and I'm sure it's the same for many of you.
RIP hard, man. Gonna go on an LP binge tonight and remember.
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Just like when any other human being commits suicide; it doesn't matter if you liked what they did. Nobody should have to feel like their life is worthless due to a crippling underlying issue.
RIP Chester.
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R.I.P.
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RIP hard to the singer of the band that got me into music
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Fuck.
R.i.p dude
This is fucking tragic, not kept up with the band in recent years but their first two albums were the part of the soundtrack to my mid teens. Hybrid theory will always be the soundtrack to fun summer evenings getting drunk in my friends garden with the stereo turned up.
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What the fuck?
Glad I got to see them a few years back. Same with Soundgarden.
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Wow, this is one that hurts harder than any other musician death yet for me. Almost too hard to believe.
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My first favorite band. RIP Chester.
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Hits so much harder than I had expected. Linkin Park are probably the first band that I could thank for helping to shape the music taste I have so many years later. RIP.
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to here linkin as a kid got hard into hard songs on cds
rest good god bless you
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Hybrid Theory is the album that got me into music and prob wouldn't be here without it. RIP.
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Record time for a Sputnik article being posted. RIP
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> He and Chris Cornell were very close, I can't imagine Chester ever got over Cornell's suicide. And he died on what would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday too
Wow, must be. Audioslave is the article of the day on US wikipedia today too.
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The band's facebook page posted their new music video only around an hour before the news broke, I feel like this was as much a shock to them as much as us
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man this just gutted me. right up there with robin williams
hybrid theory was a trailblazer
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What the fuck....
The guy looked so happy, how and why the fuck did he commit suicide, I am in disbelief.
I'm really hoping this is just some big hoax. How is Mike going to feel....
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Holy shit.
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I don't know whats worse, the fact that Chester died or that "One More Light" was the last record he put out...
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This is really shocking. Never was a fan but my condolences go to his family and friends. RIP.
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Just awful, good lord. Another solemn, shitty reminder of the importance of mental wellness. Get help. Offer help.
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I jammed Meteora and Minutes to Midnight so much in middle school. This fuckin sucks man
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im so upset over this. linkin park was one of the reasons I got into music as much as I did. my gateway band so to speak into heavy songs and even rap(before hybrid theory I just listened to whatever my parents were listening to.. country and southern rock). and it really connected with me as a teen and helped me through the rough times. RIP Chester.
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this is so fucking terrible. One of the first people to inspire me to play music and sing. R.I.P.
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Holy shit, didn't see this coming at all. Listening through Hybrid Theory and Meteora again and it's like almost every song brings up wanting to die in some way and somehow that totally went over my head in my teenage years. Didn't enjoy their new album but shit, these guys were the soundtrack to my early teens. And he's leaving behind a wife and 6 kids too. I've struggled with suicidal ideation in the past and this just hits fucking hard.
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My musical journey stated with this band!
I literally had nightmares about such a thing happening, today it became a reality.
Always adored your talent Chester...even though I no longer listen to LP...you will always have special place in my heart!!!
Rest in Peace!!!
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The pre-teen/teen in me is crying.
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"Given Up" just took a spiral down my list of favorite LP songs. No way on earth I can rock out to that like I used to after this
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I never liked Hybrid Theory and I thought the rest of their career was the dictionary definition of sell-out music (which, to be fair, so was Hybrid Theory) but still: RIP.
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Wow, this is really sad to hear. So sorry for his wife and children.
RIP Chester
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Good job. When an artist does it's always important to make sure the world knows you never liked their music.
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Goddamn, Meteora was an album that helped me get into music as a kid, and to hear this is such a shock. RIP to such a good guy, and one hell of a powerful vocalist
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RIP man, thanks for the memories ;-;
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Rest in peace, Chester. You will be forever missed.
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Shit. RIP.
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HARD fucking rip.
think about how much LP alot of us grew up listening to
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With all due respect, I hope that the latest album didn't influence his decision. RIP
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Wow RIP
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there was a point in my life where this was literally the only band i listened to. this is a little surreal
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RIP Hard.
"there was a point in my life where this was literally the only band i listened to. this is a little surreal "
Exactly my thoughts
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RIP Chester. You deserved a more dignified death.
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Shame. Even bigger shame that he left 6 kids to grow up without their father.
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Yeah they were the first band I really resonated with as a kid. All songs on HT/Met were awesome. Hurts a lot to see him do something like this. I hope his wife, kids and bandmates can carry on ok. No doubt they'll be shaken up for a while.
Always will be thankful to Chester for speaking so deeply to me through his lyrics. RIP.
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RIP hard. i think i speak for more than myself when i say that my love for heavy/weird music was planted by hybrid theory and meteora. extremely sad
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im just gonna pretend that one more light never happened
the hunting party was a good album
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god bless
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At first I thought it was an extremely bad joke given the recent album's backlash and his erratic behaviour, but then reports kept piling up... I'm still speechless... I remember Linkin Park were the first band I started jamming seriously, trying out so many songs. They pretty much sparked my interest in rock and maybe music in general. They've been quite a part of my life in younger years and it's fair to say that maybe I wouldn't even have arrived on this site without them, indirectly.
R.I.P. Chester.
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RIP hard.
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This makes Breaking The Habit even more powerful now, fuck man.
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Worst news ever, RIP
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"Numb" was, at one point in my life, my favorite song of all time. Goddamn does this hurt.
RIP Chester.
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the adult me thinks this is sad & sucks the teenage me would've been devastated.Chester & LP's music has helped so many teens deal with difficult/traumatic things being a teen is one of the most difficult times for anybody.R.I.P. i hope you're finally at peace!
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Damn, RIP. Thanks for the music
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this hurts my teenagehood and brought but so many great times I have been through thanks to HT and Meteora... thank you Chester and RIP
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Damn. The man saw me through my edgy teens, and Minutes to Midnight still remains as one of my all time guilty pleasures. RIP.
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Damn, even in my Nu-Metal phase I completely missed the Linkin Park boat, but the band had a lot of bragging rights for being one of the major gateway bands into alternative music for many many people and having the best selling debut album of the 21st century.
R.I.P. Chester Bennington.
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Terrible news. RIP.
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Well, shit.
First Cornell, now Bennington, that's two childhood heroes of mine gone in as many months. RIP Chester. Will have to discog jam Linkin Park over the next couple days in memoriam.
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I will never forget the moment that I heard Faint for the first time...
This band, they were my side wheels of my youth.
RIP.
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Holy shit... tragic news. Chester was a huge part of my life and LP is where it all started for me. RIP.
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Holy shit this makes like half their songs feel more devastating. Listening to Easier to Run and it's insanely potent.
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RIP Chester. Awful news.
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the sound of your voice
printed on my memories
even if you're not with me
I'm with you
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devastated this morning, hard RIP
I swear I clicked refresh on Google for like an hour hoping other news would surface that it was a hoax, but ughhhh fuck
something tells me this will have Cobain levels of impact on an entire generation
at this point, all I can hope for is that some good comes out of it
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fuck...
RIP
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fucking unbelievable...hard RIP
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LP were my fucking jam 17 years ago when Hybrid Theory was everything. I am in shock and grief. First Chris, now Chester...
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Never liked the band, but far too young and a huge loss to rock music
RIP
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This really hit home, R.I.P. Chester
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Listening to From the Inside right now, it's hard to believe he's gone.
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Chester and LP were why I fell in love with music. Chester was why I learned to play an instrument. I don't fucking believe it.
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This has been blowing my mind ever since I read the news.
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Wonder if the staff will write something up for him. Can't remember if they did for Chris Cornell.
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oh my fucking god. This cant be real. Linkin Park was band whos introduce me to heavy stuff. RIP
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Fuck this is crazy and awful.
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is it an exaggeration to say these guys planted the seeds for an entire generation of metal-heads?
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"t first I thought it was an extremely bad joke given the recent album's backlash and his erratic behaviour, but then reports kept piling up... I'm still speechless... I remember Linkin Park were the first band I started jamming seriously, trying out so many songs. They pretty much sparked my interest in rock and maybe music in general. They've been quite a part of my life in younger years and it's fair to say that maybe I wouldn't even have arrived on this site without them, indirectly.
R.I.P. Chester.
"
This, so much.
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RIP Mr. Bennington inspiration so many artists today and to come
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This feels different for me because Chester was a voice of my generation. Whereas I still loved bands like Soundgarden and Stone Temple Pilots, they were very much clearly "90s" bands that belonged to Generation X, making most of their music before I was born. They were the elder statesmen of alternative rock that had already defined themselves as anthems for people who grew up in that timeframe. Linkin Park, as a 2000s band, was always one that fit in with my age group, perhaps the most popular rock band of the decade, and one who, as clichéd as it sounds, connected with people my age and younger. The people I talked to who like alt/rock music, and even some who wouldn't call it their favorite type of music, knew and respected their biggest hits. "In the End". "Numb". 552 million views for "Numb" on YouTube, one of the top five most viewed rock videos in history. I've said this before, but "Numb" was the first song I ever loved. I heard it in the April of 2004, when I was on a plane and I was bored and I listened to my dad's MP3 player. "Numb" was the one that I loved the most, and I played that damn song over and over again. The worst part was that I didn't remember the title of it, and it took me years to find out what that one magical song was. When I heard it again, I instantly knew that was the song. The first few seconds came back and I remembered, that was the song. They were the first band with screamed vocals that I enjoyed, and it played a role in changing my mind from me despising heavy music to me appreciating it. They were undoubtedly a gateway band, but their best songs still hold up today.
When I was 12, I had a dream that Mike Shinoda had died, and it was on the news. It wasn't a nice feeling, but I got over it quickly. I'm reminded of that dream today because after it happened, I told myself, I won't have to worry about that for another 30 years. Someone once told me that you know you're getting old when the celebrities from your childhood start to die out. I just didn't expect it to happen this early.
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Saw them just 2 months ago...this is so fucking sad, can't believe it. RIP Chester, you'll be forever missed.
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Man, this hit me way harder than I thought it would. I guess it just shows how much the band meant to me growing up. RIP Chester. Thank you for the music.
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Damn! Rest in Peace Chester.
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wow this hit me hard for my younger self, gonna jam the classics now
RIP
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thats really bumming me out now. So unexpected and going out on the worst album...
Hard RIP
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Listening to them right now
I'm tearing up..
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This is very upsetting
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Jesus fucking Christ, this came right the fuck out of nowhere. This is a hard RIP.
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Linkin Park was such an important part of my childhood
RIP hard
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This is absolutely shocking. So sad. I feel for his friends, family, Linkin Park, and all of Linkin Park's fans.
"is it an exaggeration to say these guys planted the seeds for an entire generation of metal-heads?"
Not an exaggeration at all. I think you're absolutely right.
I'm speechless. RIP, Chester. Love or hate his music, I think it's safe to say that he truly was one of the biggest voices of our generation.
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But in the end
It doesn't even matter
RIP
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I'm with a lot of people here who hasn't listened to Linkin Park in a while, I think the last full album I heard from them was Minutes to Midnight. Still, I won't deny that Linkin Park was a pretty important band in my childhood taste, so to hear this news really surprised me. RIP, listening to Hybrid Theory or Meteora again won't be the same.
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RIP indeed. Also an important singer during my earlier years of music listening.
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Just listening to hybrid theory, the lyrics to crawling........... fucking gutted
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Huge shock finding out about this. Linkin Park was my first favorite band back in late elementary school and early middle school and their Meteora Tour stop in Chicago was my first concert. Hybrid Theory was a monumental album for me.
Hard RIP
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Sad stuff. RIP.
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Chester had an incredible voice, especially his stuff before Linkin Park. Please check out this album he made with his old band grey daze :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DI_-TdVl2rQ
It defiantly deserves a review. Its outstanding music for a bunch of young dudes.
RIP Chester.
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Duuude...
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didn't plan on crying at work today but oh well
RIP
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So much denial in this thread.
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This is a shame, dude was a good singer. Sucks for his children too.
I gotta say this though, the next months are going to be hard to bear, with all those homages and people making a hero out of him. Still, not gonna be as bad as with Mitch Lucker, lol
I'm gonna go listen to some Linkin Park in rememberance.
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what I don't get is, why ?! Even Mike said he is shocked, it really really seemed like he was happy, people say he was very cheerful at concerts, meetings and the like. There's something wrong with this, honestly. Was he so good at hiding it, what the fuck is going on.
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The voice that was crucial when I was getting into metal
This is horrible news r.i.p. man
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Ok, so apparently people are not allowed to dislike music right now? He was the pussy if he let it bother him. I'm sure all of you would laugh your asses off if Anders Friden committed suicide over people taking the piss out of in flames' later albums.
Also, I totally don't think Chester would be that bothered about this in particular, he must have had tons of other problems.
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everyone reserves the right to not like the music (also if it was more marketing, they probably would've gone back to the hybrid theory/meteora sound so whoever says that is kind of dumb)
personally i didn't care whether they went back to x sound, but those will be the two records that stay with me because they were my formative stages music wise
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stfu Kevin, not the time or place
edit: lol, comments gone
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^^^
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Linkin Park was my gateway into metal as a kid. Absolutely gutted he's gone; especially tragic that his death was by suicide. R.I.P Chester
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so very sad....doesn't matter what we do for a living, how much money we have, status, etc....if you are happy, ride that wave as far as you can gentlemen.....happiness equates to wealth in my book
im not the hugest linkin park fan but damn, this guy had an incredible voice in my opinion....just as awesome live as well
I hope he found his peace, RIP
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@asleepintheblack
yeah, true, it's time for complacent hypocrisy.
and stfu and lol to yourself too sir.
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LP was one of my gateways into metal, back in the day.
RIP.
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RIP. What a bummer man...
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i feel so numb
in the end
he didnt break the habit
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Words of wisdom Titan bro. Nothing more needs to be said. Seize the day and enjoy life, it's too fragile and precious to be wasted in sadness and sorrow.
R.I.P. Chester.
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Yoooo what the fuck
these wounds, they will not heal
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Yet another dude here whose childhood was largely defined by this man's music. Meteora will never be less than a classic to me. RIP
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so much RIP man fuckkkk
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"Was he so good at hiding it, what the fuck is going on."
Listen to any song on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, he was good at hiding it.
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fucking hell man
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Hits hard. RIP man
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you guys are all a bunch of fucking assholes for hating their last album, i bet that's why he killed himself
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"like chesters childhood was largely defined by one mans dick..."
Was that supposed to be funny?
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shut up flug
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a man can't even crack a harmless joke these days smh...
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flug literally end your own life
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Jeez Flug have you heard of timing? Telling a joke on the same fucking day as a tragedy...
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cause child rape is funny, especially when the child in question is dead. harmless really
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don't forget furries
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wow i did not expect this
never was much of an LP fan but seemed like a decent guy so RIP
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i'm sorry if i hurt all your feelings like this.
i might have gone to far.
these news genuinly ruined my evening aswell since i quite enjoyed some of linkin parks music.
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this hit me harder than I'd care to admit. From early memories of heavier rock music onwards, LP has always been one of the originals for me. RIP
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Rip, linkin park is very nostalgic music for me
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this is super sad.
user flugmorph is a massive taint.
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"Yet another dude here whose childhood was largely defined by this man's music."
I wonder if that would have been the case if the internet had been as fast and readily available as it became a couple of years later so we wouldn't have to rely on MTV and Viva to find new music. Honest question, though perhaps ill-timed, lol
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oh, so chester was sexually abused? good to know flug
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peak sputnik
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flugmorph to die
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I'm jamming Meteora today. RIP hard.
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it's very disturbing but he apologized, just let it die please
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Flug made a joke, you could call it a coping mechanism and we deal with shock and loss differently. Lay off him he didn't mean ill.
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"just let it die please"
[2]
These RIP threads always become a shitshow.
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I'm sad about chester and yet I was not bothered by this joke at all. You people should really stop with the perpetual fucking outrage about every slightest sign of insensitivity
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I've heard that same stupid joke on this site before and it was equally as unfunny then. you kids screw around too much
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there's no excuse when you're old enough to know what you're typing
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Look fantano review of one more light, people is making a lot of comments that he is responsable of chester's suicide. Fluggy is having an easy time compared to the melon head
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What the actual fuck. Why is 2017 determined to try to be worse than 2016. So sad LP had to go out on such a low note. Chester was a great vocalist.
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people is dumb
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RIP.
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if you really think he did it because of a bad review you're prolly dumb
but if you're right it doesn't speak well of him at all
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fantano's review was savage as fuck but nothing compared to the last Deftones review. But if Chino kills himself next, then shit is on
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Illuminati lurking around strangling musicians confirmed..
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which he won't and also melon's LP review was much harsher
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this is the worst i've felt after a death in a while, to anybody that's out there, please get help. people love you even if you don't realize it. there's always a reason to stay here. if any of you need to talk to me just hit me in my shoutbox or on my discord @ianblxdsoe#6454 . linkin park was my fucking childhood, meteora was one of the albums that got me into music when i was ay such a young age an this just hurts so fucking bad. when i wasn't even fucking double digits i believe, "New Divide" was on the Transformers 2 soundtrack and that was the only album i owned for so long and that song was on repeat all the time (along with a few others off the album respectively) and formed my music taste so early on, that if it weren't for Chester and Linkin Park, i wouldn't fucking be here typing this right now on this website at this time where i am in this life. thank you for everything chester.
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i know u mean well tuna but pls dont defend me with calling this a coping mechanism lol
it was just stupidity
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You know what I mean man we all respond differently. I could've worded that better since you wouldn't have trouble coping not being a megafan or anything.
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Sacrifice the melon
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Yo Flug
Terrible, abhorrent, tasteless joke
But thanks for not doubling down on the assholery and apologizing
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Was not a fan of his music, but sad. Another one gone way too soon.
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R.I.P dude
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Horrible news. Poor man. Rest in peace.
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Damn. I don't want to take away from the true sadness that this is, but I thought I'd share something kinda crazy.
Went to work early this morning and had "Easier to Run" stuck in my head for most of it. Thought it was a little weird bc I barely listen to Linkin Park anymore but it was feeling good in my head so I was digging it, didn't try to "change the song" if you will.
No access to a computer and no time to check my phone. Find out this afternoon about Chester from a coworker. Real talk, I'm not someone to make up shit like this and I don't really believe in the supernatural. Probably just a crazy coincedence (the timing, and THAT song) but nonetheless I thought I'd share.
Anyway fucking RIP, him and Cornell in the same year.. what can you even say
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Two heavyweights of the rock/metal scene and a loss for us all. Sometimes life just sucks.
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RIP, without LP i would've never discovered metal. Never expected this... All the best to his family & friends...
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Was really shocked to hear of the news. Like a bunch of others, Linkin Park was one of the first bands that I listened to when I was starting to get into listening to music. Really sad to hear.
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whoa what the fuck, after that really bad album too. dark shit
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It's always the peeps you least expect to die. RIP hard. I shat on his latest music constantly, but they were a nice band to listen to in my early teens. We need better treatment for addiction.
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Rest in peace, Chester. You'll always be one of my greatest influences into the heavy stuff on music. I doesn't want to believe it.
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i literally just yelled "what?" after coming home to this
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^ same calc a coworker told and I was like WHAT?! no fucking way
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My instinct was it was a hoax
6 kids too. So fucked
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watching the last show now... I always thought Crawling was a silly emo song even as a kid but the last live rendition of it was FUCKING unreal. just piano and vocals... the way he's in the crowd with his face 2 inches away from them as he sings with them, the intimacy man. at a loss for words right now...
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Crawling was probably the song that got me into rock music
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seeing the public response to this tragedy, i truly hope/wish chester realized the value his art had in so many people's lives. rest in peace
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some of you guys are so dramatic i like linkin park and all but i never met the dude and neither did you guys so why give a fuck?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=BeGEFSLDB2s
NSFW
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Words can't unveil the shock in which i am right now. Linkin Park was one of the first bands that introduced me to rock and metal.
RIP
And there were no indications about his condition. Everything seemed so normal for him. Such a same...
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Wherever he is I hope he is happy.
Praying for his friends and family, I can't even begin to imagine what they are going through, if I, someone who has never met him broke down upon hearing the news.
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People have the right to fell sad and speechless about the news, it's not about knowing the guy but truly realize the impact of his songs in people lifes, buddy.
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"
some of you guys are so dramatic i like linkin park and all but i never met the dude and neither did you guys so why give a fuck?"
Are you 13 or just autistic?
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it always hurts when those who shaped your music taste pass away. RIP
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rip
band was shit tho
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Shut the fuck up
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Nah tragedy was your mother drinking a bottle of wine every day she was pregnant with you
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not surprised but there are some really retarded people on this site
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wow hikinmetalpunk is hardcore. he don't give a fuck. clearly a badass in real life
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Had absolutely no influence on my life at all apart from annoying my ear drums but even so...SIX KIDS....Thats harsh. Depressions no Joke. RIP
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anonymous bitch
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The year is 2017 and we still see people who thinks that suicide is not a tragedy or something like that. Our race is doomed.
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Nah its just sad kids who make themselves feel better by offloading their self hatred on others. Just insult him once and move on
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RIP
Shocking news
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it's like people don't realize the insane stigma attached to depression and mental health. it's not as simple as getting help. people fundamentally see and treat you differently.
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I can't think of a band that in recent memory has had as much crossover appeal as Linkin Park has. I can't think of a single person that didn't jam at least one Linkin Park song growing up and it's hard to fathom, at least for me, that I'd even like half the music I do today if it weren't for Linkin Park. And while I may not be a fan of their newer music, it's sad to see someone who influenced a lot of what I listen to today die. Especially in a circumstance like this. RIP hard, man.
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Side note from a quick flick through this thread, what is it about people dying that makes the trash on this website float to the surface?
Jokes are one thing but to those actively insulting a dead man how weak and pathetic can you get.
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I found out the news through 4chan memes. So that kinda sucks...
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I don't think the trash on this website is ever hidden tbh. Plenty of shitty people in pretty much every thread on here
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now cliff burton, that was a tragedy
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RIP guy from band I never once gave the time of day to. Tragic regardless of who he was tho
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His screams in "One Step Closer" and "Bleed It Out" def opened the doors to more noisey/inaccessible/harsher music for me
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were you even fucking alive when cliff burton died?
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Lul he posted on my shoutbox. Does that mean I win
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This is a though that always fly over my head, @ScuroFantasma buddy. We live in a world who it's easy to see evil people talking shit about others lifes, or judging deaths by suicide, calling these people of mean words, but the truth is that these people are in a harsh situation. Depression is not a joke and will never be. I saw phases of depression, I lived in the shadow of this evil this year, and I have people around me who I love so much and they have depression too, but in a whole other level. It's so fucking sad.
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now john candy, that was a tragedy
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low blow runaways, unacceptable
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You say that as if you haven't been throwing low blows at a guy who died not even 24 hours ago
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Never been much of a fan, but this has hit me really hard, grew up listening to Hybrid Theory and Meteora, and even though I never really went mad for them I can still appreciate what impact they had on the music community. Love the band or hate them, they're legendary, and Chester is always going to be remembered. He was a good guy, a family man, and it's going to be weird knowing he's not here anymore. RIP man, sorry for all the shit we gave you for that last album
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i'm saying, u got six motherfucking kids. power thru for their sake.
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maybe he was powering through this whole time until the moment he slipped
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"i'm saying, u got six motherfucking kids. power thru for their sake."
I recently attempted suicide, trust me when I say when you're in that mindset you don't stop to consider your loved ones.
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true true, hope you're in a better state of mind now. all the best.
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Bro, depression and a attempt of suicide is not a choice. Just try realize this in your fucking head.
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hikingmetalpunk is just compensating because he knows no one will give a shit when he dies"
Incidentally this is probably what they'll write on his grave
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Oh I fucked up my rule I insulted him twice. Time to go to bed
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@SweeneyTodd All the best my bro, hit my shoutbox when you need
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valhalla awaits
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what the fuck
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well gotta split, apologies if i offended anyone.
gotta go inject some roids and lift weights.
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some ruthless ass ppl up in here
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So surprising he killed himself one week before the "One more light" tour. Open your eyes people. He was killed by hate, disrespect, and narcissism.
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go watch the last show. the adoration for Chester was almost smothering. he was well loved and he knew it. so please stop the 'negativity killed him' bullshit. if people were booing him off the stage your argument would hold merit
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"He was killed by hate and disrespect."
was there that much bullying involved with the new album? I know it wasn't well received but were people that vicious about it? I haven't followed anything about music drama for a while
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Already more comments than Lemmy
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And now just as many comments as Bowie
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The reality still hasn't sunk in yet. It doesn't seem real. Like many others, I grew up with Linkin Park. My heart goes out to his family during this time of crisis.
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Fuck dude this hits me so hard. Although I never liked all of Linkin Park's work, they were one of my favorite bands growing up and I'd spend hours listening to Hybrid Theory and Meteora. It's a such a damn shame because Chester was genuinely a good guy, I'd hate to just think of what he was going through that made him do this. R.I.P. Will be missed.
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Fuck man, I first saw it on fb and thought it was a fake article but then it hit me for real. Can't imagine the amount of pain the man must have been in for him to commit suicide.
RIP Chester. Gonna have Linkin Park on the spin for the next few days at least
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I can safely say that Linkin Park is my favorite band of all time and the first band I was ever a fan of. This has hit me so hard and I've actually cried a few times, it still doesn't feel real. These guys are what got me into music and my heart goes out to his family, friends, and bandmates. Rest in peace Chester, you will be missed.
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The signs were kinda there... I mean, he was actually walking around threatening his own fans and calling them names. He also said he takes criticism way too personal, and decided to apologize for his behavior. It's just evidence he wasn't really in a right place mentally.
Still, I wasn't expecting this at all. I still am flabbergasted since I read the news on billboard. I still love their first two records, and a few of the songs they released after. Too bad One More Light is his last recording. RIP
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honestly tragic as fuck. grew up with their music floating around me. quite upsetting tbh
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"RIP guy from band I never once gave the time of day to. Tragic regardless of who he was tho"
[2]
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jesus, this thread. stop engaging the trolls you fucking idiots. report + ignore.
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Hybrid Theory got me into music. It sits in my 5's as a personal classic that (at risk of sounding way too dramatic) was the soundtrack to my formative years. RIP Chester.
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I know Chris Cornell's death really bothered him. He was god father to chris child...or something like that. He was physically upset on stage during a performance dedicated to cornell...the parallel is there. He died on Cornell's birthday.. no coincidence I'm sure.
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I'm not gonna lie, I never had any sentimental ties to Hybrid Theory or Meteora. At their best, I thought this band was okay. But they still have songs I absolutely love (Shadow of the Day, Numb, New Divide, What I've Done, Castle of Glass and the demo for I'll Be Gone). This band was very important to kids growing up in the early 2000's and they seemed to be one of the few bands that people bridged the gap between hip-hop, rock, and pop music lovers and that's important. RIP Chester.
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they were my first favourite band, goddamn. a hard RIP
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The second musical act, and first band I ever loved, was Linkin Park. From there I got into SOAD, then Slipknot, which made me want to actually play music myself. I owe a great deal to LP, and Bennington especially. A lot of people do. Depression is hell. RIP.
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didnt really hit me until i was stuck in traffic and thought, "i bet theyre playing LP on the radio." sure enough they were. ive been thinking about it all day now.
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rip
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Was never my jam, but goddamn, there is no separating this band's impact on music when I was growing up.
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Lmao holy fuck that tresm87 comment my sides
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LMAO
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im not gonna read all these comments, someone just tell me what tresm said
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really grew to disliking this band but knowing that he just couldn't escape his past and how badly it fucked him up is so upsetting
RIP
also not surprised that this thread is a total dumpster fire
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@storm control + F
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Still so gutted about this news, one of the most important bands in my life and I'll never forget when I first heard Chester go all out on Hybrid Theory.
RIP man, you'll be missed more than you could ever imagine.
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oh yeah i forgot about that adolf, thanks
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@storm its literally 6 comments above mine
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https://www.facebook.com/brianheadwelch/posts/10155571524781974
Y I K E S
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reading one too many comments from this cesspool of humanity is dangerous. i can't afford to scout out stories anymore.
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https://imgur.com/a/7xCQr
Tresm is right guys l00k
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head should know better than to have hit submit on that post. i can understand him typing it out and wanting to send it, but he's going to regret hitting submit.
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I love being sempethetic too
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i think he meant sempiturnal
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"I'm sick of this suicide shit! I've battled depression/mental illness, and I'm trying to be sempethetic, but it's hard when you're pissed!"
who is this guy anyways, he sounds smart.
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"jesus, this thread. stop engaging the trolls you fucking idiots. report + ignore."
Don't even report like fr that's more effort than trolls deserve.
Also neat to see that a lot of you got into heavier music with LP as the gateway even at your relatively younger ages, seeing as how Hybrid/Meteora came out when many of you were toddlers.
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LP was my first fav band in like grades 4-6 and deffs got me into heavier music.
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i believe i got into them in sixth grade and listened to them nonstop through middle school.
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i moved on to THE NINE INCH NAILS, QOTSA, DFA1979 etc in grade 7
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i wonder what the fuck happened though, in one of his last interviews he was talking about how he was so much better recently compared to last year.
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damn hybrid theory came out when i was 12... that shit was the indisputable jam back then.
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rip chingy
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that's how depression/mental illness works you think you're in a better place mentally one day. feeling like that can last days months .yrs then one day your depression comes back bringing you back to that dark place that you thought has long left your life & your back to feeling depressed/hopeless.
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My jaw fucking dropped. Linkin Park used to be all I listened to during my middle school days. Rest in peace, my thoughts go out to his family and friends.
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I never said LP was a band I liked, but I've been listening to their singles all day and there's not a song I don't know the words too or don't enjoy. These guys were huge and have already left a legacy. It shouldn't have taken a death to make me realize that I totally am a Linkin Park fan. It's so terrible this happened
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man waking up to several mournful texts from friends who aren't even particularly into music made me realize how many childhoods lp was a part of. thoughts are with the family of course but also the other members, their lives are gonna be permanently capsized by this too
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I remember the magical feeling when my dad popped in Meteora while we were driving in his truck. It was the first time I heard metal and rap mixed together.. And as a third grader, it was like crack. From there, it may have crafted my whole life. Thanks, Chester. RIP
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Honestly didn't believe it when a friend of mine told me about this. Sincerely heartbroken. LP was incredibly important to me in my formative years. RIP.
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I thought someone was just trolling with a joke news headline damn. I think Chris Cornell's death affected him, but also Scott Weiland's as well. RIP.
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His wife's twitter account posted messages a couple of hours ago that have now been deleted. I'm not going to quote them, but in them she said, she had cheated on Chester with Mike, she said she never really loved Chester and was really in it for the money this whole time. Also told Chester that he should just kill himself.
Now the account has probably been hacked and the messages have been deleted, but it's still very unnerving to read such a thing.
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what the fuck
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Disgusting
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jheez
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That's fucked, dude...
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Terrifying if true
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Linkin Park was my first band, I first listened to them when I was three years old. Since then, I grew up with them, and I loved everything they brought out (except maybe for Collision Course^^). I was so glad that they could make the Pop Album they wanted to make for years now, and it's sad that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Yesterday I was practizing with my band as I got the news from a friend of mine. I immediately stopped singing and cried for several hours. Chester is my childhood hero and I will miss him so hard. RIP man 
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im basically 100% certain it was hacked. no sane individual would confess to that even if it were the case
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Still fucked up that someone would pull that kind of bullshit, and within 24 hours of her husband's death. There's a fine line between god-tier trolling and being a complete fucking chode for no reason and whoever did that crossed it hard.
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That shit's fucking disturbing, distasteful and absolutely terrifying, damn.
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no way it's legit. hacked twitter accounts do happen.
that Welch post is gross. ofc it would be from Korn's token christian member though
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not cool, motherfucker mike
also what did welch post?
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Welch basically said Chester's suicide was cowardly. I mean, I get what he was trying to say, but that wasn't the time or place or way to say it
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your mother's nudes
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I think this had something to do with his wife or family, i don't know. He had a shoot scheduled with the band the same day and apparently one of the band members I don't know who went to pick him up when he found police on the scene and was left absolutely shocked. What can drive a man to do this after he has been through so many things, survived made a successful career, made a happy family and he just decides to off himself one day. I am sure it's not the album's negative response or Chris's death, those are not good enough reasons to leave family and friends behind.
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lifelong mental illness
i think it's inappropriate to delve into a discussion about a possible trigger but the date he picked (Cornell's birthday) possibly says a lot
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Damn..
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Welch said he was battling depression but IMO he either completely forgot what it was like or wasn't even truly sad for a day in his life
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I get what Head was saying but it's too soon
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it does say a whole lot he died on cornells birthday. he was crushed when he died. So sad. watch his performance of the song ''one more light'' that was dedicated to cornell (on jimmy kimmel) it was hard to watch.
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yeah that performance was harrowing
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I'm just gonna be quiet and say R.I.P.
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6 children from 2 wives. A cautionary tale.
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I have very fond memories of listening to Meteora growing up. It was one of the only albums that my dad and I both liked despite our very different tastes in music. I was listening to "Iridescent" yesterday right before I found about about his death. I have never been more upset over the death of a musician in my lifetime. RIP
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Sad news. RIP.
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Yeah, there have been a number of recent deaths of musicians in the past couple years, but this passing is one that the average demographic of this site might easily feel the hardest, given age and relevancy and all. R.I.P.
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Well I must say I'm truly shocked and dumbfounded. At times like these I'm just thankful we have such eloquent wordsmiths as stormzy to encapsulate a generations heartbreak with such poetic well expressed, poignant words.
"Bruv I can't lie I'm so upset serious 💔💔💔💔" a truly beautiful soliquoy the likes of which Lord Byron himself would be unable to conjure.
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"His wife's twitter account posted messages a couple of hours ago that have now been deleted. I'm not going to quote them, but in them she said, she had cheated on Chester with Mike, she said she never really loved Chester and was really in it for the money this whole time. Also told Chester that he should just kill himself.
Now the account has probably been hacked and the messages have been deleted, but it's still very unnerving to read such a thing."
fuuuck really? Man more reminders on why I have zero desire on marrying, even if the account was indeed hacked.
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Yeah that would hit hard as fuck if you were 11yrs old.
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Suicide does not solve anything. All it does is transfer your pain onto other people. Bennington had 6 kids he barely saw, and now, all 6 of those children will have the unfortunate burden of living their life without their real father. The worst part, however, is that his extended family will have to learn that he *chose* to leave them. Bennington valued his own pain above that of his family, career, and friends. Linkin Park was on the verge of greatness until one of their visionaries opted to take the easy way out, and in turn, ruin the careers of a band of men who defined the early 2000's. Chester Bennington had a hard life. He was abused beyond any rational thought at a pivotal time in his life. Unfortunately, the abuse he suffered is not one a person can easily move on from. Haunting memories like those would bring any man to their knees, but the issue is how he coped with that pain. Chester caved in and for that robbed his family, friends, and fans of new experiences. Chester had so many hands reaching out to him, but instead chose to drown in his own misery. Saying that life is unfair is an understatement, but there were so many other ways to carry on. Chester's death shows how important a legacy is to fans. A person who inspired so many to rise up did the complete opposite. Rest in peace.
"I'll paint it on the walls 'cause I'm the one at fault. I'll never fight again, and this is how it ends."
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I mean you treat it like it was some kind of rational decision when it's really the most irrational thing someone can do
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"Yeah that would hit hard as fuck if you were 11yrs old."
OR if you were indeed married, your wife is a bitch, and your assets and kids are on the line :/
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"I mean you treat it like it was some kind of rational decision when it's really the most irrational thing someone can do" -SCREAM!
You are completely correct. No one deserves to go out like that. No one.
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R.I.P.
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really hope that twitter shit wasn't true
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honestly it sounds like mike and the rest of the band kinda alienated him because all of the talk of "THIS IS THE ALBUM THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN WANTING TO MAKE" were from mike and not chester so i feel like chester was just there as a finishing piece rather than an actual member of the band
and i feel like he was cheated out of the band because this was his way of conveying his grief and he had completely lost control of it ):
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I'm pretty sure it's hacked because her last tweet is literally just a shitty clickbait article but it was very unsettling to see indeed, especially the one about meeting Chester in hell
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Those hacked tweets are fuckin terrifying to read and usually I'm not one to get fazed by that kind of stuff. I do hope they are hacked tweets and that the hackers suffer in their lives.
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That hack job is straight up vile shit
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I don't think she wrote the tweets, but I'm sure she has some part in this as in maybe they had a fight or something.
And @Snake , that's a good theory but I'm pretty sure Chester was also coming forward with the "this is our greatest album" comments, not to mention all those angry responses he threw at fans who claimed they were selling out. Or maybe he was just a pawn in this whole thing... I don't know. With cases like this one, we're probably never going to know the full truth.
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6 fucking kids, jesus, what a selfish way to go out. Mental health is not to be taken lightly. There are resources out there for people to get help.
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holy shit can we please please please please stop saying suicide is selfish
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... But it is. I feel terrible for him and the depression and pain he went through, but I'm never going to justify someone's decision to take their own life (barring like terminal illness and dire pain), and while it's imperative to be sympathetic and empathetic we can't be condoning his actions either. He had people who depended on him and needed him. He has millions of fans and kids who looked up to him. He had a family and was a father to 6 kids. Suicide is a topic that needs to be understood better and for us to be sympathetic and understanding, but without criticism the act becomes normalized and even accepted as a way out purely from the fact it's not being condoned, and it's not.
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Linkin Park was on the verge of greatness until one of their visionaries opted to take the easy way out"
The verge of greatness? ..............wut
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"what a selfish way to go out. Mental health is not to be taken lightly."
how can you possibly have had both of these thoughts back to back?
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"Linkin Park was on the verge of greatness until one of their visionaries opted to take the easy way out"
whoever wrote this is a dumb-ass who thinks their opinion actually matters, guess what, it doesn't, and you're a dumb-ass!
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Suicide comes from a place of utter desperation and thus usually irrationality (from an outsiders perspective) and i don't think you can judge someones true character by it, not to mention in this case, his longstanding battles with mental illness. It might (and does) seem unbelievably selfish when judged objectively but it would be errant to do so imo.
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Very eloquent way to put it JWT, agree
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agreed JWT
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"holy shit can we please please please please stop saying suicide is selfish"
I don't know about you Snake, but for me the decision to have kids comes with an accompanying responsibility that suicide (especially at age 41) means you're shirking on. So yes, there is absolutely an element of selfishness to it based on the choices he'd already committed to.
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Chris killed himself too, leaving kids behind. It's almost as if... having kids is not a cure for suicidal depression
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Yeah I'm with JWT. Suicide has affected my family everyone of us concluded that selfishness is an issue.
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Thanks for the kind words everyone, I think people are conflating the act of disparaging suicide and the person who commits the act. We as a society can be compassionate sympathize with Chester and others who've committed suicide and commit ourselves to helping those here with us suffering from the same forms of addiction/depression/etc that leads to such decisions, and also reaffirm that suicide is a selfish decision and should never be condoned as a solution to any problem, no matter how big or small.
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Except the terminally ill extreme pain situation yeah.
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Granted my "verge of greatness" comment was an overstatement, but the general point of my comment was to establish that Chester Bennington killing himself was the wrong way to go. Suicide is selfish no matter what anyone says. At the end of the day, the person is valuing their pain, suffering, and angst above everyone else. You are choosing to end your life whether or not you are depressed, sane, or delusional. The person is still killing them-self. Depression didn't tie the noose and drugs didn't kick the chair. The simple fact is Chester chose to leave this world because *he* didn't want to live for anything or anyone else. It doesn't matter he had infinite resources to help him. He didn't want to seek help because he felt that his life wasn't worth living.
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Compare a suicidal person to a person in a window of a burning building. We might not see the flames but the pain is real. And jumping is the only way to escape it.
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How does that analogy help? There are fire fighters outside campaigning through the smoke and flames to rescue you from impending doom. That's just a person choosing to give up on themselves because *they* don't believe there's a way out.
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I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know the pain and misery Chester was going through, but when you have 6 kids and 2 ex-wives depending on you, and you CHOOSE to die, what does that solve? You know have abandoned your family because you didn't think living for them was worth it.
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now*
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You said he barely even saw them anyway. I would bet they'd be taken care of financially
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The point remains that he could have quit Linkin Park to focus in his internal issues and turn to his family for support. Many musicians are married and never see their family. That's how the touring industry works.
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"I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know the pain and misery Chester was going through, but when you have 6 kids and 2 ex-wives depending on you, and you CHOOSE to die, what does that solve? You know have abandoned your family because you didn't think living for them was worth it."
You do not know how depression works it seems
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You can't choose the way you feel, but you certainly have the power to choose how you act.
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Indeed, but you don't think in a pretty rational way when you are on a severe episode of your depression
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"Indeed, but you don't think in a pretty rational way when you are on a severe episode of your depression"
I agree, but that's why it's our burden as a society to reinforce that suicide is wrong and that there are other options, we can't afford to have suicide be anything but a terrible selfish act, because if it isn't then it'll be much easier for it to prey on those with depression because they can then manipulate their irrationality into rationalizing suicide. Suicide should never be a rational solution and we need to enforce that ideal.
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I don't think you should teach people with depression that suicide is "a selfish act", you'd only make them feel worse at themselves
You need to teach them on why it would be sad for their friends and families, on how that person still has a lot to live for, etc, etc... But simply calling it "a selfish act" isn't correct, it's not like when someone's about to commit suicide they don't think about their loved ones, but they think they'd be better without you or that they wouldn't miss you, in most cases
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I agree with JWT155** wholeheartedly
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R.I.P However, it is nice to see everyone coming together and sharing their experiences of what Linkin Park has been to them.
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"How does that analogy help? There are fire fighters outside campaigning through the smoke and flames to rescue you from impending doom."
I don't know why you are introducing firefighters to the analogy. If you have to, they have appeared too late. The person is being burned too much, the pain is too strong to stay in the fire.
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Jesus, people always use news of suicide to get on their fucking pulpit. Someone died. Have some respect. It's not really the place, imo.
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Your analogies are almost as incomplete as your political ramblings Egarran. So congrats, that's pretty impressive.
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what a shame. Sure the music became laughable over time, but his art touched soooo many people's lives in a positive way. Hybrid Theory went diamond within 5 years or something like that. Go look up how broad his music's reach was/continues to be. Fuck this one stings.
RIP
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that actually made sense, ghost. reevaluate it.
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It's lacking several very important factors.
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well you think they don't realize what a selfish panacea suicide is? granted they're not usually in a lucid headstate when they go through with it but the fact that they resort to that measure just evinces what mental torment they must've been enduring and yeah technically it's an extremely selfish act but not in the typical sense imo.
The obvious exception is revenge suicide or when the intention is to hurt somebody that's just disgusting
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this is just pitiful everyone should stfu
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Hardly.
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Depression is a terrible thing to suffer through. It's a hormonal imbalance in the brain and causes your entire body to fall victim to it. Even with medication, the emotional torment still lasts beyond treatment. Suicide easily weaves its way through depression because your in an entirely vulnerable state, and because of it, it feels like the only option. No one can fully understand how depression works because its different for each person. I may know the generals of the subject, but I can't begin to understand the depth because I haven't suffered in the way Chester or Chris suffered. Not teaching people suicide is selfish is like telling children fire is not dangerous. Suicide is an epidemic and should be treated as such. There's no easy way to explain it. No one should have to fall victim to depression and no one should ever have to resort to killing themselves. Chester and Chris didn't deserve to die. People sit around and misinterpret situations like these and use it to their advantage. You'll see a million other kids kill themselves just because of these musicians, then the media will turn it around and blame Chester and Chris. Vicious cycles like depression and suicide can only be avoided if people are willing. You can only help those who help themselves.
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"I agree, but that's why it's our burden as a society to reinforce that suicide is wrong"
Do you really think anyone doesn't know this by now? Killing yourself goes against literally every single one of our natural instincts and you guys are totally undermining the level of anguish it takes to get someone to that point that they can totally disregard all that.
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what scream said
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Suicide is irrational, and it's selfish. I can't articulate it any better than how JWT55 did. It's our job to not even bother trying to rationalize suicide, and cultivate the idea that it's just wrong. You don't even need to judge people who commit suicide nor condemn them. They had their reasons, they did it, it's already over for them. The best thing you can do is support their family and friends, and make awareness that suicide it's just not the way to go. Never.
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Scream, 90% of people who commit suicide are estimated to have a diagnosed mental disorder. Of those disorders, the most common are anxiety and depression. As we all know, Chester Bennington was depressed. That being said, people who commit suicide have likely attempted to before. The general public is not well aware on whether or not Chester has, but we do know he has thought about committing suicide during the tenure of his past abuse. It's not abnormal to contemplate suicide, but it is concerning in the situation Chester Bennington was in. That lays a precedent to commit suicide, yet the time span between his suicide and abuse leaves a lot of variables. Taking into consideration there are twice as many suicides as homicides (in the U.S.) combined with the suicide rate jumping 13% between 1999 and 2010, and suicide being the third biggest cause of death in the U.S., it is our burden to enforce that suicide is indeed wrong. Taking it lightly doesn't solve a damn thing.
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Chester was definitely not in a good place, and seemingly he did expressed his anguish several times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC_-zeWYMYo
But siding his personal situation, I guess it's much tougher to try and express yourself in an environment that benefits from your sufferings, dramas, meltdowns, wrongdoings, etc... and will make it very difficult to get proper help. Being a celebrity puts you in the worst position of all if you are fighting personal demons.
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As far as someone getting low enough to commit suicide, the natural human response to pain is negative. People who attempt suicide have to condition themselves to want pain. People may want to die, but wanting pain is another. Most suicidal people build up a tolerance to pain through past experiences or injury. As we know, Chester has experienced both in his lifetime. When it comes to the desire to die, suicidal people feel their life is a burden and unworthy of others time. Chester has always felt this, as it was expressed in numerous songs.
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"But siding his personal situation, I guess it's much tougher to try and express yourself in an environment that benefits from your sufferings, dramas, meltdowns, wrongdoings, etc... and will make it very difficult to get proper help. Being a celebrity puts you in the worst position of all if you are fighting personal demons." -bananatossing
My point exactly.
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forcing anti-suicide ideals on people is equally selfish. excellent, more slaves for the machine. muahahaha
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...what
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...what (2)
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/4/
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I just... anti-suicide ideals...?
"Hey guys, make you don't tell anyone that being alive is pretty rad!"
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShUcxxJEjJAP5hDuR2cj8vDNeY34lozCBlBUEV1v8r0w4rVgYnmA
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Sailsaway that was literally one of the most idiotic comments ive ever read on this website in my near decade of being on here. No witty retort could actually disguise my concern for you as a human being, please, just stop posting in this thread and get some fresh air, hang with your friends, go to the mall, do something.
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that interview was chilling how much it resonates
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it's bad but it's no jennifer
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i'm going to give him the benefit and assume that comment was just infelicitous af and came out much more antagonistic than it should have, and what he meant to say is that suicide shouldn't be completely condemned under all circumstances or viewed exclusively as an act of cowardice.
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R.I.P.
Crazy thread
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Jeez, I know One More Light was a terrible album, but this is a bit extreme.
But seriously this is sad to hear. R.I.P. To one of the guys that got me into music. Between him and Chris Cornell, this has been a devastating year for my 12 year old self.
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EphemeralEternity, I can't fully agree with your comment because that's not exactly how suicide works. Granted some people are mentally ill to the point where they don't understand suicide in their current state, but your encouraging a slippery slope in which suicide is dimmed down to, "They tried and they died. Let's preserve their memory and learn from this example." Suicide is at an all time high during this millennium and it keeps getting higher. No one should have to accept suicide. Suicide is not an option and is not okay. It doesn't matter which circumstance that person is in. Giving up on life is never the right choice. All suicide does it push pain onto those around you. People who are suicidal never realize that life does get better and you can move on. Just because something pains you now doesn't mean it will in the future. Like I said, you can only help those who help themselves.
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Jesus stfu, worst thread ever.
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nah the Michael Gira thread was worse
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For anyone who was still unsure if the tweets came from a hacker
http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/chester-benningtons-wife-talindas-twitter-account-hacked-posting-absurd-revalations
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Someone died. Lets make it about me and my opinion about it instead of showing respect. Seriously?
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Tbqh I despise people who don't understand suicidal people or depression yet feel the need to have some strong opinion, there's too many people like this.
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This is hitting me hard for some reason.
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It's practically impossible to fully understand suicide and mental illness. Psychology can only go so far. The human mind will always and forever be an enigma. Chester Bennington's death hits hard because he was an influential person who deserved much better than what life gave him. His and Chris Cornell's death's are travesties because of how influential they were on the current generation. It's going to be hard not seeing Linkin Park after 17 years of non-stop hits. I wish Linkin Park and Chester Bennington ended better. Neither deserved this fate.
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I know I've already posted a link to this somewhere earlier in the thread, but please I urge you, if you are a fan of Chester, Linkin Park or early 90's rock, to check out his old band: Grey Daze.
They were due to do a reunion show with Chester this september. I can't begin to explain how excited I was to hear this news as i've loved Grey Daze's music for years. And Chester's voice on these recordings is sonething else. The lyrics and delivery are an incrediably high standard for such an unknown band at the time. The music is catchy but somber and gloomy in places. It's a very unique sound.
The band deserves some recognition, at least on here. If someone reviewed this it would mean so much to fans. Please check them out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DI_-TdVl2rQ
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The problem Drop, is that depressed individuals literally lack the ability to feel the empathy and consideration for those around them. I've been there. The thought of pushing your pain onto those that love you never even crosses your mind. If anything, you resent those people because, despite all their love and admiration, they weren't able to help you or pull you out. Because if anyone or anything should have been able to, it would have been them.
That realization is what tips many over the edge - the thought that there is no fix, that there is no coming back. It takes incredible strength of will (that has yet to erode from decades of depression) to make the conscious decision to keep going. For most, that very idea never even presents itself. It's borderline mind-control, only nobody is in control.
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Chesters death shouldn't be seen as normalizing suicide or accepting it, instead we should look at our own life and the people in it, and putting effort into reaching out to those that seem to be struggling. No one ever does anything till its too late.
His death should be a reminder that suicide is very real and you never truly know what a person is going through, which is why you should strive to make every human interaction a positive one, even seemingly insignificant ones like posting on sputnikmusic.com
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Your point is valid. The lack of serotonin in the brain (during depression) is responsible for the lack of empathy, appetite, and sleep. You have those who long to feel nothing at all and those who long to feel something during this state, which is what creates all of these self-harming thoughts. You are right in the fact that resentment plays a very prominent role in depression especially in regards to those not understanding what you're going through. However, falling into hopelessness and self-pity isn't going to solve anything either. Making a conscious effort to move on isn't easy, but it is necessary for your sake as well as others. Suicide may seem like the only option, but your death makes the vicious cycle continue. People have this fantasy that suicide is some sort of redeeming quality that makes people miss you and carry on your legacy or suicide makes everyone suddenly care about you in a realistic way. This mindset is why a bunch of kids are getting involved in this culture where suicide and self-harm is a lifestyle. This is what takes away from those who are depressed and are literally suffering because you have masses of people pretending to be miserable for the sake of themselves.
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Where does logic reside? In the mind.
Where does mental illness reside? In the mind.
Believing depressed people should think logically is absurd.
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"Fair point but mods are still fags"
Lol
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My issue is with people individualising suicide rather than regarding it as a social problem. Even drop notes that suicide is at an all time high in western society but he kinda gleams away from the implications of this and instead uses it as a point that we should make people understand that suicide is bad or whatever which doesn't really make much practical sense
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Suicide really is a major issue that needs to be addressed. People of all ages are killing themselves left and right, and most of the time, for no reason. Also, can you please explain the positives of suicide? I'm not being sarcastic in that comment, but literally, can you please explain the positives of suicide?
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that's not a thing that happens
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"the positives of suicide?"
It ends the victim's pain. Now people will obviously give the "permanent solution to a temporary problem" spiel but Robin Williams also said that and it wasn't enough for him to stay. Sometimes the problem is permanent and people feel that suicide is the only way out. You could also give the spiel of "it affects others around you", but isn't it also selfish to keep someone alive who clearly doesn't want to be? To keep them a husk of a person just to alleviate your worry whilst they suffer.
It's a massive grey area.
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well said.
also, it's way more likely that it was CC's birthday that he died. I dont believe any of that hacker's bs
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" can you please explain the positives of suicide?"
someone you don't know's suicide doesn't concern you. at the end of the day, it's their life. you are not owed anything. even if you did know them you're still not owed anything. yes theoretically it should be viewed as a last resort but ultimately it is their decision and theirs alone. people need to calm their moral outrage..
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I love the thought that "life will get better so push on."
I work in the business of helping people who have had a background of substance abuse start living a healthy and fulfilling life. In this field, you encounter someone every now and then who is too far gone or has a mental disability that they cannot help nor can anyone else. For the latter, sometimes no matter what chemical cocktail a doctor may prescribe, life doesn't get better. Watching a schizo-affected 22 year old who can't stop hearing voices and who only sees a straight jacket and a metal bed in his future despite the copious amounts of depakote continue to suffer and get worse, it becomes impossible to tell him it will get better. So please, don't always assume that someone will get better. It's a harsh reality we are facing in this day in age.
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Like so many others have said, these guys are the reason I got into music. Hybrid Theory and Meteora have always been classics in my mind and I will always be grateful to Chester and the band for giving us those albums.
It's just horrible to think that all the negativity and hate that this band received in relation to their latest work more than likely contributed to Chester's death.
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i think its naive to think that things will get better for everyone, and to think that suicide is a "bad bad thing no matter what!" some people dont get better, and for some, suicide might not be such a bad option. these are rare cases, but they exist.
"can you please explain the positives of suicide?"
how is it not obvious.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the negative public reaction played a part. It would make sense due to the death threats and hate mail they receive every day. Sure the album sucked, but that doesn't mean they deserve death. They made a mistake, big deal, move on. The previous comments regarding the positives of suicide are valid, but at the same time, "No one ever lacks a good reason for suicide (Cesare Pavese)." Again, I respect you guys' opinions on the subject, but I'm getting tired of all of these people, famous or not, killing themselves. There's so much to live for and no one deserves to die in that way.
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there might be "so much to live for" in your eyes, that doesn't mean that applies to everyone else
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Unfortunately it is true. You can't help people who can't help themselves.
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@pit do you talk to them the way you talk to snide?
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Droptune why do you persist? You obviously have very little insight into a depressed persons mind.
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I would assume pit doesn't tell his patients to drink bleach haha.
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maybe he should, they could use some tough love.
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that's true, he should also tell them to change their mindset and exercise
problem S O L V E D
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we did it.
we fixed the mental health issue.
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Well I've been wrong all along then because I always thought the cure to depression was a cold can of beer, big fat titties and Superbowl sunday
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And then take a shower. BOOM take that depression. Case closed.
But seriously, tough love is a slippery slope. I do think some people need a kick up the arse to get their gears into motion but it highly depends on the person. Tough love on the wrong person would send them even further into self-loathing and guilt.
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I'm constantly telling my patients to drink bleach and make sure to cut parallel to the veins, not perpendicular. THAT'S tough love.
In all seriousness, you have to be careful how you talk to a struggling addict/alcoholic or someone with a mental health issue. Tough love can be the thing that inspires them to change, but it can also be the last straw for someone as well. You have to gauge the situation and also know the history of the person you're speaking with. If you go at someone who has a history filled with suicidal/homicidal ideations, you may want to handle the situation with kid gloves. Be honest, but don't push in any direction. Someone who is just constantly using the "Woe is me" excuse, that's who you go at hard. Dealing with that a bit this evening actually. Patient had a panic attack due to letting herself get overwhelmed with outside factors, which is common for her. I had to let the patient know that it's time to stop using her mother and father as excuses for letting her life slip away, and that it's time to take responsibility not only for her actions, but for her feelings as well. It's time to grow up basically.
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The band can always replace Chester with Jeff Gutt if they still wanted to.
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The band can always replace Chester with Jeff Gutt if they still wanted to.
Neh, I don't think it will be probable that mike decides to continue with LP, specially considering that the member who commited suicide was chester, in fact is more probable that he focus on FM right now If he wants to work with the other members he should change the name and the focus of that project, replacing chester with another metalcore, alt rock or nu metal vocalist will be a total hell for the band.
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why are so many therapists such trolls outside their job
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It's such a huge issue. To handle it some people must shut down their empathy and attempt objectivity. Btw have some facts.
"WHO reports that in the last 45 years suicide rates have increased by 60% worldwide. Each year approximately one million people die from suicide, which represents a global mortality rate of 16 people per 100,000 or one death every 40 seconds. It is predicted that by 2020 the rate of death will increase to one every 20 seconds.
Mental health disorders (particularly depression and substance abuse) are associated with more than 90% of all cases of suicide."
I would conclude from this that we cannot judge the individual. But we can blame the society.
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Superluminals, I am not persisting. I said what I needed to say and I respect others opinions on the subject.
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If you are unable to change your opinion when confronted with better arguments, you are persisting.
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That doesn't make much sense. I'm not converting to anyone's side nor am I asking anyone to convert to my side. I shared my opinion about suicide because it is intertwined with my reaction to Chester Bennington's death. Everyone posed good arguments, and as stated, I respect them entirely. Everyone has their own experiences with the subject, and for that, have their beliefs that are important to themselves. If you're trying to keep score, perhaps you should think about it this way, "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."
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There are facts beyond your opinions and you have subdued no one in this thread. You will only win if you persist and no one can be bothered to debate you.
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"There are facts beyond your opinions" -Egarran
Please enlighten me on who here is arguing to win? The last time I checked, no one was arguing with anyone. We're all here having a discussion regarding suicide. Everyone has simply been sharing their opinions in regard to the subject. There's no hostility or competition. I'm trying to understand why you are fixating on a pursuit to win.
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As far as facts go, I, as well as several others, have posted numerous statistics about suicide in western society. As far as the actual MORAL standpoint of suicide, there IS no facts. Morals are subjective in nature - its that simple.
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I think you equate winning with learning new things. And I guess it makes sense.
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Winning implies competition and no one here is competing for anything. It's a thread about Chester Bennington's death, and as stated, everything else has been on subject. My goal here was not to learn new things, but rather to discuss reactions to Chester Bennington's suicide.
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r.i.p chester. you're definitely not forgotten
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opinions can be wrong
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Opinions shouldn't have even been involved in this thread. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings on suicide, look at the facts; six children are now fatherless, and an international music icon who influenced tens of millions of people, including a lot of us and a lot of the musicians in various metal and rock genres we listen to, is dead. He died at age 41 from ending his own life due to a multitude of mental factors. Honestly, One More Light was probably a cry for help and no-one, not even the people closest to him in his life had any way of knowing. The one person who Chester could really relate to was Chris Cornell, and Chester killed himself on what would have been Chris's next birthday.
The point I'm trying to make with all this? Only his bandmates, family members, close friends, doctors, and children could have even had an inkling of an idea of what he was going through. The epidemic of suicide is a horrible problem, and way more attention needs to be paid to it, but the blatant trashing of this man and his life that I've seen in this thread is not the way to go about addressing the very real (and worryingly increasing) problem of suicide (especially among musicians).
Respect the dead. Respect their family, respect their friends. Leave politics and opinions out of Chester's situation, and let the family grieve.
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Thumb, that's literally what I've been saying. That was the first thing I posted on here when the news broke. My complete objective was saying that no one has to die like this, suicide is an epidemic, and we need to start making things better.
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yall need to chill
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I agree. This has gotten out of hand. All in all, I respect Chester Bennington and am thankful for his contributions to music. He was a talented artist who deserved much better than what life gave him.
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this isnt out of hand. this is pretty good for sputnik, or for the internet in general.
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In facebook there are tons of people insulting chester and millions of people insulting the detractors of chester right now, the discussion is spuntik hasn't been hostile or mean
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Although you are both correct, Chester Bennington's suicide is very impactful, and much like Chris Cornell's suicide, it has hit listeners personally. We've lost two visionaries before their time due to one of the most infectious illnesses of our generation. It's a shame we've had to lose so many musicians to a mental and emotional prison. Depression is a hand around your neck that grips tighter and tighter, and while others learn to breathe, some unfortunately choke and grow lost in their infinite darkness. Although many of us never thought the day would come, Chris and Chester join the statistics that serves as one of societies greatest faults. As Chester Bennington said himself, "Oh, and you're angry, and you should be, it's not fair. Just 'cause you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there."
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when someone you care about dies it's always hard and impactful but full disclosure I'm not dealing too well with this. it's barely been 2 days but I'm not sure how to reconcile this event because it only serves to confirm all my worst fears about depression.
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Say what you want about him, he was an inspiration for me at a shitty part of my life. I'm sorry that his life ended so abruptly. Even though I've grown out of the band (including their controversial new release), my nostalgia, heart and soul will not discontinue and will always give a fan's support
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I feel you art
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The fact that I haven't given a shit about LP since 2003 somehow makes this all the worse. I still think the last 4 or 5 albums they released were trash... but when I think of my earliest memories of being excited about music I think of Alice In Chains, Nirvana and Linkin Park oddly enough. As someone who has suffered from depression from an early age, none of this is encouraging.
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Simply put, it's not fair. Linkin Park inspired people of all genres. None of us knew him personally, but its just angering to have a voice you've heard everyday of your life go silent. Linkin Park was one of those bands listeners literally grew up hearing. It's so strange to write, but its true. Its hard, with most Linkin Park fans entering into adulthood, not see that anymore. Fans aged with the band and the band aged with its fans. His death also rallies against everything the band stood for, which is the irony of it all. It shakes fans to their core to have a singer who told them the opposite fall into that vicious cycle. That's where most of the anger spurs from.
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that's the thing though... Chester's voice has been live and loud all this time but I ignored it because, well, I think the band has sucked for a long time. He's been putting out his art all this time and I've been mostly giving it a chance but I genuinely thought it sucked. The idea that maybe that garbage music came from a real emotional place is just one of many parts of why this is so hard to process.
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As Kurt Cobain famously stated, “If my eyes could show my soul,everyone would cry when they saw me smile.”
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"but its just angering to have a voice you've heard everyday of your life go silent."
Replace angering with lost and you've summed up my feelings.
As with the majority of LP fans, Chester was the voice of my youth. I didn't listen to much music until high school, but when I finally did, you bet Hybrid Theory and Meteora were on constant repeat. Linkin Park was the band that got me into music, and music is an absolute massive part of my life. I can't exactly put into words what this band, and those albums and lyrics mean to me. When I heard this news a couple days ago, I didn't believe it. I didn't want to believe it. For years, all I could do was relate to the lyrics, and the words Chester and Mike spoke on those records, they resonate with me to this day, as I expect them to for my entire life. My thoughts are with his family, friends, and loved ones in this heartbreaking time. I hope that wherever he may be, he finally has found peace, and true happiness. Rest in peace Chester, you are the voice of my generation, and you will be missed.
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Art, I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly. I could never have imagined this would hit me so hard.
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i think it's because he literally sang about how he felt. hybrid theory and meteora were a dump of his angst of his troubled youth clearly displayed. ...in fact too clearly that it seemed sophomoric and simplistic. but that's what he's been doing the whole time. once he didn't feel as angsty anymore and tried to be positive or experimental he's been getting the shit end of the stick from fans and critics
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some people endure depression better than others. cant blame then directly But I'd much rather appreciate survivors
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A couple of days later this is turning into a huge bummer for me. I never realized what an impact his music had on my taste in music while growing up, and "finding" LP before they were on the radio is what set me on the path that led me to Sputnik today. Dang.
Agreed with Typhoon too. Lyrics that seems faux-edgy back then are now a little more legitimate. Very sad indeed.
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Most listeners find it easier to write off lyrics as phony rather than genuine. Why that is boggles my mind, but Linkin Park always had genuine lyrics in my opinion. Linkin Park was an easy target for many because of their nu-metal style. Nu-metal had a bad reputation for relying on "angsty" lyrics and a basic music to go along with it. Linkin Park personified that style, and for that reason, became a heat magnet. Now that Chester is gone, people are realizing that Linkin Park *always* meant what they said. There's a reason why Linkin Park seldom played "Breaking the Habit" live.
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i am broken.
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I never thought LP were disingenuous, i still think the lyrics are shitty high school tier lyrics though.
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^^^
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"Respect the dead. Respect their family, respect their friends. Leave politics and opinions out of Chester's situation, and let the family grieve."
ppl always say this kind of thing after tragedies but the fact is these things have to be discussed at some point. you can't extract politics out of these kinds of things, that's just another way of framing the situation in an individualistic manner which honestly is a political act in itself. this is some niche music website not his eulogy & personally i don't feel it takes away from the grieving to talk about it. it's relevant
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Respect is a silly concept.
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i don't think it's a silly concept i just think it's super ambiguous
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Shut the fuck up
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I agree with what AnarchistFish stated. Some things have to be addressed in order for it to get better. I don't think its disrespectful at all because Chester Bennington was a victim of an epidemic.
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They have released and statement in the official facebook page, it seems they don't have clear what they wanna do with the band.
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Which is 100% where they should be at, they just lost a brother, music should be the least thing on their mind for quite a while.
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As I've stated many times, Linkin Park needs to hang-it-up for now. The rest of the band needs to take a break for the rest of the year, and if they want to make more music, join Fort Minor and tour with that.
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"i think its naive to think that things will get better for everyone"
THANK YOU
Thing is when you say that people call you lazy or you didn't try hard enough in life to get the things you want. Sometimes your mind just makes you feel like a husk of a person and it makes it hard to escape from, especially when people take you on a guilt trip. We need to stop telling kids that life is amazing, life can fucking suck at times and we have to prepare them for that.
In their official statement LP stated Chester left an irreplaceable void, so I whole-heartedly believe they're gonna end LP once they've finished grieving his death. I just don't see an LP without him and the hassle of getting a new vocalist is too much.
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There's not even a person I can think of that sounds enough like Chester to replace him
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We can *always* have Maynard James Keenan replace Chester Bennington. (sarcasm)
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they should just call LP quits yeah
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We can *always* have Maynard James Keenan replace Chester Bennington. (sarcasm)
Did you knew that between 2008 or 2009 AIC and tool made a show with linkin buddy, hehehehe ?
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Lmao, i cant tell if tresm is for real or not.
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@tresm87 - are you also harassing Seth Rich's family in your efforts to battle The Deep State?
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tresm is for real. realer than the guy that carved 4 real into his arm
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tresm take a break from the infowars recitation bub
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Went away for vacation believeing nothing bad will happen. I was wrong.
Terrible, sad news. Even though their later years was inconscient to say the least, LP was still a major part of my adolescence and was one of my first introduction to rock music.
R.I.P. Chester.
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"take a break from the infowars recitation bub"
what u sayin to me
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"There's not even a person I can think of that sounds enough like Chester to replace him"
dude from the metalcore band Threat Signal recorded a cover of Crawling as a joke because people wouldn't stop telling him he sounds like Chester https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFzdvrog3Tg
nobody should replace Chester though. either they continue with Mike as the sole vocalist which wouldn't really work or they should just call it quits
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Threat Signal used to be the shit back when they had McKnight.
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Threat Signal was sweet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSV_J7vaRWo
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every time i see tresm's name i think of tresemme and that shampoo fucking sucks
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Threat signal was enjoyable. But tbh the first time I've met jon was when he was singer of arakaea
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"There's not even a person I can think of that sounds enough like Chester to replace him"
Honestly, I've always thought Spencer Sotelo was cut from a fairly similar cloth to Chester as a vocalist, in both tone and delivery, and it's nice to see Periphery paying tribute to him. Whether or not Spencer should 'replace' him in LP is another question.
I guess the only thing LP can really do now is to recognise that Chester can't be replaced and at least take a break, if not call it quits for good. They've had a good run (17+ years and 7 albums, plus various other projects) and their influence can't be easily understated, so now is as good a time as any.
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I guess the only thing LP can really do now is to recognise that Chester can't be replaced and at least take a break, if not call it quits for good. They've had a good run (17+ years and 7 albums, plus various other projects) and their influence can't be easily understated, so now is as good a time as any.
Agree, but the issue is that knowing mike shinoda he won't take a long break, maybe in a year or 2 he will be working with fort minor and another project, maybe a fort minor with mike and joe could work very well.
Honestly, I've always thought Spencer Sotelo was cut from a fairly similar cloth to Chester as a vocalist, in both tone and delivery, and it's nice to see Periphery paying tribute to him. Whether or not Spencer should 'replace' him in LP is another question.
If they replace chester for spencer or jon howard and if their next record is something rock oriented it will be great, but mike is the one that has the control and he usually wants to do a lot of stuff that is not exactly rock related and I don't how spencer or jon could react. Tons of scene and core kids are making some shitty propositions for chester's replacement, those pussies are proposing vocalists like tyler carter, dennis shafarostov or kellin and that will be the worst mistake ever. Still it seems right now that they are not going to continue with linkin park in a long long time and that's the best
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use quotation marks when you quote ppl my dude
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I am lazy as fuck fella
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wow
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Ya lp should hang it up. But i want em to release all their underground stuff and demos. Old day 1 stuff.
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Depending on the relationship they had with Chester, I don't see them picking back up until at least January. I'd be shocked if they were to return any sooner. Considering all of the legal mess they're going to go through, finances, and record labels, this is going to be a long process even if they are emotionally stable enough to carry on with their music. Honestly, Linkin Park has nothing else to prove. They really should just hang it up. Fort Minor will allow them to work a lighter schedule and still produce music. If not Fort Minor, maybe some other super-group. Either way, there's nothing else they can do. Linkin Park just needs to retire.
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Ya lp should hang it up. But i want em to release all their underground stuff and demos. Old day 1 stuff.
They said they had a mountain of material related to the THP and OML recording sessions, just to satisfy my morbid curiosity it will be interesting if they release one album like that
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Lmao
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if anyone gets to the bottom of this, itll be alex jones.
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the only thing alex jones ever got to the bottom of was a bag of pork rinds
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He solved that frog shit and y'all thought he was trippin' but he stuck at it and now look at him.
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follow the gay frogs, tresm
only then will you unearth the government's insidious ploy and arrive at the truth
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don't let the gay frogs distract you from the fish people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNeg9D-EZ4
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lmao
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lmao
well he's right that we're screwed at the very least
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gay frogs are real
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to scorch and try again right, we should all watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_v1SLIt01Q
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That did not have the desired effect.
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Linkin Park might release their day one stuff similar to how Nirvana did in the past. I just don't see them needing to do so. They don't owe the fans anything else. Besides, half of that stuff has been leaked anyways.
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yeah they have like at least 16 eps of rare shit
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Maybe they will release demos of THP and OML era. Still the best thing the other members can do is to make what dave grohl did with the foo fighters which is creating a new project with a different concept
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Its rather obvious that will happen next. However, I would rather them wait until much later.
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“Capitalist realism insists on treating mental health as if it were a natural fact, like weather (but, then again, weather is no longer a natural fact so much as a political-economic effect). In the 1960s and 1970s, radical theory and politics (Laing, Foucault, Deleuze and Guattari, etc.) coalesced around extreme mental conditions such as schizophrenia, arguing, for instance, that madness was not a natural, but a political, category. But what is needed now is a politicization of much more common disorders. Indeed, it is their very commonness which is the issue: in Britain, depression is now the condition that is most treated by the NHS. In his book The Selfish Capitalist, Oliver James has convincingly posited a correlation between rising rates of mental distress and the neoliberal mode of capitalism practiced in countries like Britain, the USA and Australia. In line with James’s claims, I want to argue that it is necessary to reframe the growing problem of stress (and distress) in capitalist societies. Instead of treating it as incumbent on individuals to resolve their own psychological distress, instead, that is, of accepting the vast privatization of stress that has taken place over the last thirty years, we need to ask: how has it become acceptable that so many people, and especially so many young people, are ill?”
― Mark Fisher, Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?
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this is basically what i was getting it^
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Sounds a lot more reasonable than the evolutionist argument.
But for some reason there are people who go nuts when you blame capitalism for society's problems.
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As far as the argument of Capitalism goes, I would like to quote Milton Friedman in saying, "There's no such thing as a free lunch." Aside from that, mental illness has always played a key factor in neo-liberal/communist societies as well as fascist societies. Just look at Nazi Germany way back in World War II. All of the horror's those people witnessed day in and day out screwed their mental state for years to come. Fast forward to modern years and look at the Middle East. Those people are living a nightmare because every inch of their village is a war zone. Any political agenda that has the prefix of "neo" in the title is guaranteed to be something terrible. There has to be a balance of some sort. Mental disabilities should be a factor in politics because mental illness has taken a backseat since the 70's. There's no excuse for suicides ranking as the 3rd leading cause of death in America and the lack of mental health programs.
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u guys are so stupid
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If we're stupid we're also dumb.
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14418 comments on this site and not one has ever been constructive or meaningful. Cast judgment on other people once you actually develop a personality of your own.
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you're so stupid
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How the fuck did we go from RIP Chester to the science of capitalism
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take a wild guess
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Post your RIP and leave the thread
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How the fuck did we go from RIP Chester to the science of capitalism
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Nah
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Hey I was blaming society all the way back at 22/7. The time is ripe.
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nah [2]
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this is exactly the attitude im talking about which is nice and inoffensive but ultimately achieves nothing
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If theacademy is here, you know something is wrong. Well, let's evolve this conversation from Capitalism to Tom Brady. Who here hates him as much as I do?
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nobody likes brady guy
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Did any of you see the Linkin Park memorials going on around the world? Linkin Park dropped some Google Doc containing all of the sponsored ones around the U.S., Canada, and Mexico.
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Some of you guys are hypocrites. You said crude jokes about LP killing themselves before and now you're feeling bad for them? Fuck you fake assholes on this website. Those jokes were never funny.
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Oh shit, he died? How did I miss that?
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Oh boy, here we go.
Dammit Stargazer lol
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I admit I did say their new music sucked but I never told them to go kill themselves like some bigots did.
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Good to know youre such a paragon of morality!
"Some of you guys are hypocrites. You said crude jokes about LP killing themselves before and now you're feeling bad for them? Fuck you fake assholes on this website."
How does that make someone a hypocrite or fake? Seems like you have a pretty tenuous grasp on the english language.
"Those jokes were never funny."
Thats your opinion. Kill yourself, retard.
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Jesus
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"How the fuck did we go from RIP Chester to the science of capitalism"
lol
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damn its already been over a month
rest in peace man. rest in peace
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Why bump this why
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Because people love to talk about chester, lolololol, problem?
Some of you guys are hypocrites. You said crude jokes about LP killing themselves before and now you're feeling bad for them? Fuck you fake assholes on this website. Those jokes were never funny.
Neh, I didn't want that chester killed himself, specially considering that I am a hardcore and militant fanboy of old school LP and of THP stuff, I wanted that they created HT pt 3 or a mashup between HT and THP with the concept of ATS. I love a lot of LP's stuff but their last album only has 3 ok songs ( talking to myself, the self titled and sharp edges), the rest is just generic, lazy and offensive pop, that's the kind of crap that I expect from Imagine Dragons or 21 pilots
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in the end, he didn't even splatter
what a buzzkill
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Sup sinterderp
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I don't understand people who feel a musician should die just because they don't like their music. You get a lot of that with the metal community.
It's retarded.
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Well, given that suicide is like 40% of all the lyrical themes in Metal...
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sup verm dude i hope youve been djentin hard recently dont want u to be derpin
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I don't understand people who feel a musician should die just because they don't like their music. You get a lot of that with the metal community.
Well, most of those comments come from metal purist who only listen norwegian black metal or brutal death metal. Those guys are so fuckin easy to troll
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Any diehard fan of any kind is easy to troll. When you take something too seriously, you are easy to troll.
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But in particular metalheads who only norwegian black metal and brutal death metal are easy as fuck to troll. They got really pissed when machine head made a cover of in the end. Anyways, phoenix said there was gonna be a public memorial of chester, very curious about that and about LP's future, still consider that mike, mr hahn, brad, rob and phoenix should make together a rock band with a different concept than the one employed by LP.
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"I don't understand people who feel a musician should die just because they don't like their music"
We have to start somewhere.
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Heil chester you fucking queers
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easy as fuck to troll
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5 HT and Meteora or derp
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As much of a fan as I am, those aren't 5/5 albums to me. Nostalgically, maybe. But objectively, they are more around 2-3/5
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As for those black metallers.. Can we not heil Fenriz and Chester at the same time?
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yeah i thought HT was pretty great when i was younger but it's 3/3.5 at most for me now, and never really dug much of their other stuff
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Hunting Party is a good rockin' jammer.
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Caring about objectivity in music
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It's a rare thing, but I try my best.
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objectively HT, Meteora and THP are a 5/5, robb flynn and neil part agree with me
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"objectively HT, Meteora and THP are a 5/5"
objectively you are an idiot
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"I don't understand people who feel a musician should die just because they don't like their music."
Lmao, yeah, you dont understand it you thick cunt.
"5 HT and Meteora or derp"
I get a pass though cause im not 12 anymore.
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objectively you are an idiot
Lol even rob flynn, mike portnoy, neil peart, chris cornell, dave gahan agree with me you fuckin idiot, they are more objective and know more of music than you.
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Nice appeal to authority, but all that means is that they have shit taste too.
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Hhahahhaahahahha neil peart bad taste ????????????????????'
Hhahahahahahaahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahaahhahahhahaha
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No, not bad taste, i said shit taste.
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"No, not bad taste, i said shit taste."
Yeah, get it right bro
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opinions ¯_(ツ)_/¯
guess im a thick cunt
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Lol, "think cunt" gives an interesting visual.
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LeOmegaLeviathan when you grow up, you'll understand.
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@star Seriously though, how is it not obvious that most people saying those things are joking and/or trolling.
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"Lol even rob flynn, mike portnoy, neil peart, chris cornell, dave gahan agree with me you fuckin idiot, they are more objective and know more of music than you. "
They might like the band that doesn't mean they see them as a 5/5. Prob a 3/5 like the rest of us
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The only album I've ever heard that I would give a 5 is Agalloch's The Mantle. But most days it sits at a 4.5
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Also, you cannot assume that musicians who do not know you will share the same musical opinions as you.
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For all we know, that slimeball from Shining really likes Kelly Clarkson, but is too afraid to admit it.
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baiting 12 year olds in a thread commemorating their dead idol. classy
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You know im all about class, babe.
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hey, we all gotta grow up sometime. and if some people in here had done that prior to this, we wouldn't be arguing.
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I like Kelly Clarkson.
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Wow sad, RIP!
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chill out dudes jfc
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This is an internet forum dedicated to music.
That's impossible.
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told you everything loud and clear but nobody's listening
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hey, we all gotta grow up sometime. and if some people in here had done that prior to this, we wouldn't be arguing.
Well is not my problem that rating LP with a 5 makes angry certain cunts which can't give a counter argument, if you are so mature you should ignore what I am saying or at least you should come with a more polished comment explaining why LP sucks, but your comment is more juvenile and stupid than I thought, suck it
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They might like the band that doesn't mean they see them as a 5/5. Prob a 3/5 like the rest of us
Well mike portnoy praised chester vocals, rob flynn said that HT and Meteora were masterpieces, dave gahan and depeche mode respected LP, even mike shinoda worked with that band for a remixof enjoy the silence.
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holy shit, did you just quote yourself and reply to yourself? lol
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The Inception Man
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LeOmegaLPFan
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Sorry, I copied the wrong quote, still I am right and as usual you are wrong because you are inferior
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baiting 12 year olds in a thread commemorating their dead idol. classy
Classy my ass
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I can't even listen to LP at the moment. Anytime Chetser's vocals come it's like oh shit these lyrics just got way too real. Although very sophomoric at times, he was speaking from the heart apparently.
Although, I only listen(ed) to the first 2, so I don't if the lyrics are any different with the newer stuff
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I'm going to tell mommy you're being a poopoo head on the internet and you'll be in trouble when daddy gets home young man.
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I'm going to tell mommy you're being a poopoo head on the internet and you'll be in trouble when daddy gets home young man.
Lol, this confirms that LP detractors have a really low IQ compared to the normal human being, is much lower than I initially thought
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Lmao yeah, say what you want about nu/rap metal fans, but they are known for their high IQs if nothing else!
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Phew, I thought this said Chester Cheetah. My heart got all pinched.
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Higher than the one of LP detractors indeed lololol, by the way, my taste is more eclectic than yours and LP is one of the few nu metal bands I listen
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No arguments here bro, youre a shining example of the average nu metal fan for sure.
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Are we calling normal people "LP detractors" now? That seems needlessly confusing. You people are easier to count.
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quasi-entertaining thread. reminds me how badly i need a hobby
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I think the fact that you may have read the entire thread says everything
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lol yep
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have you tried listening to music
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no
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it can be a nice hobby
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hanging yourself is also a nice hobby
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on some real shit though i still am fucked up about this, been jamming LP a lot more lately. a thousand suns is so underrated
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i definitely wasn't expecting it when it happened, didn't think he was that unhappy / unstable. it's bad news
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this one i, still kinda fucked up by yeah. if i had last.fm my most listened to artist of the past month is honestly probably linkin park. shame that this is when i remembered how much i dig some of their records
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the piano/vocal rendition of Crawling from the last show is just devastating. Always thought that song was an angsty joke but the bare-bones version of it kills me.
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"Seriously though, how is it not obvious that most people saying those things are joking and/or trolling."
In my nightly prayers, I asked God this question. He says it will make the weak less able to reproduce.
"I can't even listen to LP at the moment. Anytime Chetser's vocals come it's like oh shit these lyrics just got way too real."
Wut, this improves the music so much. We went from hearing trendy, angsty depression to actual suicidal pain. You gotta love it.
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If you think the acoustic version of "Crawling" was haunting, wait until you hear the acoustic version of "One More Light."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sMWGgMHa8U
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Looks like the band is releasing a live album of songs from the One More Light tour in England. I'm really excited to hear Chester's last performances in a higher quality than fan recordings on youtube.
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Been rewatching the tribute show this evening and can’t love it any fucking more.
Incredible show and an amazing display of respect for Chester.
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ERASE MYSELF
man, how could we not have seen it coming
PAPERCUT
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who had a worse 2017: chester or jesse?
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Jesse's still alive so Chester prob had it worse.
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I wouldn't be so sure of that
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I'd take being dead and respected over being a living pedophile any day.
Mostly I just want to die.
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'respected'
debatable
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He'll reincarnate as Bester Chennington, a Guy with no emotional problems who wasn't abused as a child, and he'll be the hero who finally defeats Jesse Lacey, who has risen to try and steal the brandest newest entrees into puberty
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lmao
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Great moves Supdaduck, keep it up
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What happened to chester
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He got sad
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he was sexually abused as a youngun
i just dropped my ice cream goddamn
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Pick that shit up and eat it like a fucking man.
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It's obviously melted by now
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Is he in a volcano?
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i can't eat it now, it reminds me too sorrowfully of what it would have been like more solid
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You will honor his memory by getting on with your life and eating that hairy creamy fluid.
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:3 Chester would want it this way
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#makechesterproud
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Maybe Chester was afraid he'd abuse his 6 kids like he got abused. I doubt he would have, but he must've known the cyclical nature of child abuse and how victims often become abusers. Maybe he killed himself out of fear he'd do the same to his own kids? Like 'they're better off without a potential abuser like me'? It's the sort of way he would have thought. I mean otherwise why would he kill himself? Just a theory tho
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According to the rest of his band he would always be the one saying “let’s do it again until it’s perfect.” More so than mike who pretty much wrote all the lyrics to HB and meteora and mixed em. I think like Chris Cornell realized his best years as a musician were behind him, Chester had that unease too. Maybe he knew they’d never out do HB despite his compluslive want for good music and seeing Chris go was the straw on the camels back.
Suicide over the thought abusing his kids....hm it’s possible but I think that’s something he would be impacted by his first kid, but he made it to six. I don’t think he was afraid he was gonna abuse them but rather loved them too much. It made his burden heavier in a way
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Alcohol + antidepressants with lethal side effects. It's what the cool kids do these days.
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^ are people really making these kinds of arguments in 2017???
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Can people still not recognize obvious trolls in 2017?
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There will always be those people and these pseudo-conversations
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I still can't believe it's been over a year since Chester passed away. It's been hard to listen to Linkin Park's music these days, and honestly I hope he's never forgotten.
RIP Chester, I hope you're resting well.
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Best rap metal band ever.
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bump
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While I grew out of my favoritism of LP, it was still sad to see this. Can't deny having grown up to their music. R.I.P Chester
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Hybrid Theory is the bomb
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Rip
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Rip
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don't know why this is getting the bump treatment, but yeah rip hard still. wish i could come around more to their later efforts and even Hybrid Theory
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What, he's still dead?
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“wish i could come around more to their later efforts”
At the very least, give A Thousand Suns an unbiased second listen. Forget it’s LP and just let it be it’s own thing.
It’s worth it, or at least worth a try.
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A Thousand Suns is their 2nd best album imho
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He died again?
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rip chester cheetos
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egarran already beat you to the degen joke apparently, sorry larkin gotta wait til next bump
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Thanks for keeping track of these things.
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Better luck next time, Lark.
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RIP...
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This still burns
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RIP
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This still burns [2]
Fucking insane that it's already been almost 3 years...
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God, I know right. I never even saw it coming before it was too late... Fuck.
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Miss this guy. RIP
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@venin Why would a random fan have seen it coming?
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Look like this guy got one step too close, amirite?
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This kind of gets sadder with age
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Fuck I remember when this happened some sick fuck on reddit said "Now we'll finally get another Fort Minor album" and thank God I wasn't signed in cuz I woulda lost my shit and gotten myself banned
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"Bennington said earlier this month that Linkin Park fans should "move the fuck on" from the formative sound of the band's debut album, Hybrid Theory. He also admonished those disregarding the band as sell-outs by saying they should "stab [themselves] in the face!"
"If you’re gonna be the person who says like 'they made a marketing decision to make this kind of record to make money' you can fucking meet me outside and I will punch you in your fucking mouth because that is the wrong fucking answer."
"Because guess what, calling us a sell out for that purpose is… selling out on your fucking excuse as to why you don’t like it. You’re a fucking pussy. For any band to take musical risks because you like what you’re doing in spite of what you know some people will say they don’t like, it doesn’t matter if they like it or not – what matters is that you took the chance to do something that you felt was important to you and that’s what being an artist is all about."
you all broke him"
I don't wanna go and say we are the cause for why Chester did this, but LP fans had a pretty bad tendency to be toxic at every turn no matter what the band did. And the way they treated Chester especially was just abhorrent.
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Man. Threw on The Hunting Party yesterday. Such an underrated album, and I think LPs best after the first 2.
Thanks Chester!
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