Pretty fucked up.

hmm, I'm not sure who to believe cause I don't really know anything, but this is interesting.

well-written article too Kris, it's nice to see a piece of news like this handled well.

GUESS ILL CHECK THEM OUT MAYBE SEE IF THEY GOT SOME RAPE VIBES GOING

whoa crazy

"I think he's innocent"

ok that's fine

"Sounds like some bitch going to the internet to spread attention seeking stories"

alright that's still fine I guess cause you said "sounds like"

"If she were raped, she'd stay quiet about it or go to the cops. This is disgusting."

and you lost it, jumping straight to conclusions and making strong judgements based on minimal information.

I mean I expect approximately 90% of the hundreds of posts this page has will be more or less the same thing, but yeah.

Well, this is akward

whoa

whoa

holy shit

Ugh such an ugly and sad situation.

AIDS HAS BEEN ON POINT TODAY WAY TO GO AIDS

"The woman did not go to the police, however, and has taken to Tumblr to spread her story and attempt to bring justice to Parkin."

Sounds legit.

ANDCAS: "GAZA ARE YOU OKAY, ARE YOU OKAY GAZA"

has taken to Tumblr to spread her story

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oh, tumblr.

TYPICAL MEN ITT

love how this finally goes up on here

this is crzy whoa

Her story honestly sounds like bullshit because instead of going to the authorities, she went to tumblr AND demanded that he step down from Gaza after writing her a public apology. What the fuck kind of shit is that? Go to the cops if you want justice..

if u domt go 2 the cops ur a liar u just hate gaza

maybe she doesn't believe in sending the guy to jail for the rest of his life? she is probs a part of the punk scene f the police thing hxc stuff.

OMG EVERYONE LOVES THE COPS ESPECIALLY PUNX WHO WRITE SONGS ABOUT HOW THEY HATE THEM

lol whoa

"has taken to Tumblr to spread her story"

Everyone knows everything on Tumblr is 100% srs business

As if an apology and him quitting his band is going to make up for him raping you (allegedly). Lol wtf

# tagged: newsflash: i'm the one who started the blog thismanisarapist # tagged: just so i could post about this # tagged: this man is a rapist # tagged: rapist # tagged: rape revenge # tagged: feminism # tagged: anarchism # tagged: gaza # tagged: jon parkin # tagged: social justice # tagged: outing abusers # tagged: outing rapists # tagged: accountability proccess

Her story honestly sounds like bullshit because instead of going to the authorities, she went
to tumblr AND demanded that he step down from Gaza after writing her a public apology. What the fuck
kind of shit is that? Go to the cops if you want justice..

'I attempt to only reblog things with less than 200 notes and post mainly original content'

OK THIS SHIT IS FUNNY NOT LIKE I HOPE YOU WERE RAPED FUNNY BUT IF I SAW HER DROP A TRAY AT MCDONALDS ID TOTALLY LAUGH

lol this thread is going to be silly

Yeah, she lost me at the "tmblr" part as well, but then again, people nowadays.... I'm not surprised if their first instinct after a traumatic event is to make a post on tumblr or facebook than call the police.

Honestly, I dont believe her. And really, what does she have to gain by slandering a band that very few people know about?

http://thisisrapeculture.tumblr.com/page/3 "> http://thisisrapeculture.tumblr.com/page/3


What would happen if instead of making rape statistics about the victims, we made them about the perpetrators? I’d love to see some fucking posters that point out the fact that somewhere between 1 in 25 and 1 in 12 men are rapists. Or that 35% of men say they would rape if they knew they could get away with it.

I think we’d start seeing social change a lot faster if we starting pointing out that rapists are people we know and love; they are people in our families, our friends, our classmates, and our coworkers. And that is fucked up.

One in three guys would rape someone. Hard facts people.

I also love the posts about how "Oh wow. Some guy in a band I look up to has the power to rape people? I MUST HAVE THE POWER TOO!"

35% OF MAN = PENIS
DID THEY SURVEY DICKS

I don't get why someone so socially active and knowledgeable about "rape culture" wouldn't go to the police and have a rape kit done. There, done. DNA evidence. And, her "lol"ing at a guy calling them "third rate Botch rip offs", she seems real upset at the moment. I don't want to sound like an apologist, but an accusation does not a conviction make.

@DeadToPain
I wouldnt be surprised if this is some random girl (maybe even guy) who hates Gaza and thought this would be a good way to bash them.

I know of this chick through other feminist friends of mine, she IS real. But I'm pretty close to being on that side of the fence. Happened in September, just telling people now, leaves alot of room for excuses. "I was afraid. I deleted all of my texts, phone was full. I never found out who the guy that came out to intervene was.". Smells like bullshit to me.

"it probably didn't help that I also referred to them as third-rate Botch worship but still."

hahahahhahahahhahahahahaaaaahhaaaa

I'd be amazed if this turned out to be anything more than some disgruntled fan using slander to try to defame this guy.

She goes to tumblr and all she asks for is for him to be removed from the band and shunned, but she doesn't go to the police? Yeah, I'm calling bullshit here

NOT SURE WHY HE DOESNT PRESS CHARGES THO I MEAN CANT HE DO THAT

IF HE WAS INNOCENT WOULDNT HE PRESS CHARGES
ALL PUBLICITY IS GOOD PUBLICITY

"He was cowering over me"

must have been pretty terrifying.

Coach Cower was pretty intense before Mike Tomlin stepped in

ah, the old "i know people who have been raped so thus i know all of the possible thought processes and outcomes that
may go through a victim's mind"

Looking forward to cleaning this thread up

This shit happened to Isaac Brock, it ruins a dude whether it's true or not

lol andcas said "fishy"

@andcas: that doesn't change the fact that you are an ignorant asshole. I've never been mean to you despite the fact you always seem to give me shit, even though I always try to stick up for you.

wow ian found a new band quickly

^^ not funny

























okay its funny

'only 3% of rapists will ever serve a day in jail.'
AWFUL

'and people are telling me that i’m lying because i dont want to turn to an institution that has personally victimized me, that has victimized my friends of color, that has victimized my queer brothers and sisters and nibblets, that has let my fellow survivors down again and again, that has blamed so many of us for our rapes. fuck that shit.'
OH NOW I UNDERSTAND THE 3% THING

Klap: Dat nail on the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3CseVXwLg

Holy shit, he still on that? Lol.

Man, this thread is gonna take off in the morning. I for one won't jump to any conclusions, although her going to tumblr and demanding justice schtick is really stupid.

The shit? I had a conversation with Jon at a house show in 07-08 about whether or not it was anti-semetic to fuck a bagel and I didn't get any pervy vibes at all. But since there is (at this point) no reason to doubt this woman's very detailed story, his bandmates should not continue until, at the very least, he passes a polygraph test.

^^You know that not everyone is a white male and has the privilege of sleeping right now right?

you chauvinist mysogynist sexist homophobic racist genderqueer-hating rape-culture-supporting pig.

I don't think her method of calling attention to this is at all messed up. At this point there is no physical evidence or witnesses, so calling the cops would be a useless, emotionally taxing ordeal. Calling him (and Gaza) out on social media gets the word out in the scene and is the quickest way to get him to admit it, or to get Gaza to kick him out.

Jon's statement says that he thinks she should go to the police but as it happened several months ago it would be obviously nigh-impossible to prove (which he is likely aware of)

It'll be a hard case proving either side.

polygraph. it aint concrete, but it's something.

I doubt that will happen though

and i'm not sure if a serious crime like that can even be addressed that way without dwelling into more serious legal territory, which is what both parties seem to want to avoid.

Andcas this is NOT a subject to joke about you chauvinist mysogynist sexist homophobic racist genderqueer-hating rape-culture-supporting pig.

Show is so fucking underrated

You can get a polygraph from a private professional. It will definitely occur to them, and his innocence can likely be determined by his willingness

When it comes to rape, it seems like everyone falls into one of two camps: 1. Most/All women who claim to have been raped are lying, or 2. All women who claim to have been raped are telling the truth. It's really fucking ridiculous.

Tumblr is still mad at Michael Fassbender about allegations that the police even said were false.

When it comes to rape, it seems like everyone falls into one of two camps: 1. Most/All women who claim to have been raped are lying, or 2. All women who claim to have been raped are telling the truth. It's really fucking ridiculous.

Tumblr is still mad at Michael Fassbender about allegations that the police even said were false

"wtf is this a medium?"
JON RAPED ME

Maybe the bands last album title touched on a delicate issue for her?

"You guys have a song called 'slutmaker'?
women are entitled to use their bodies as they wish without being called sluts you chauvinist mysogynist sexist homophobic racist genderqueer-hating rape-culture-supporting pig......who raped me."

Her accusation sounds completely fake. You wouldn't BLOG this to the world if you got raped, you would go to the police. Again, if it was legitimate, why would you give a damn enough for Jon to leave the band as she wants him to do? Obviously a malicious attack on his credibility for personal reasons. Besides, real men like Jon make you wet your panties not your eyes.

nice profile picture, gaura

I read her account. Were she even to have gone to the police on the night of the incident in question, there wouldn't have been evidence. Certainly nothing damning. So there's that.

whoa

gaza sucks anyway

but that tumblr post is tenfold dumber

"lol who cares about this skeletor has a new video up thats the big news of today"

link now

Was gonna post something regarding this, but that skeletor video Dev posted made me laugh. I always knew the guy was "off", but what the fuck was that? He's legitimately making videos to bash other Sputnik members because he got banned on a website? christ

For the love of god give me a link

Dev posted a link right in this thread >_>

I noticed once I actually read the thread ._.

Why would she not go to the police, but spread it all over the internet instead? Seems a little screwy
to me. I think there is a high possibility her story is bullshit and that she is trying to get
attention. Then again, you never know, maybe it did happen. The problem is there are more frivolous
accusations than there are actual rape cases.

that was a dumb statement

ok, thanks for the feedback...

Probably not the best day to be walking around in a Gaza hoodie. Ah well.

that was a dumb statement


Not really dumb if it's true

"there are more frivolous accusations than there are actual rape cases"
assuming by frivolous accusations he means false accusations
And by rape cases he means actual rapes

In which case yes that's a really dumb thing to say

Actually it makes perfect sense, you're just an idiot.

how do you figure that out?

dammit now the format's all fucked up


allegations are that it happened in 2012, not 2011 cuz i'm an idiot


DEV HALLLLP FIX PLS

If it's true why is there no police action (or, seeing as it's on Tumblr, is it a "social justice warrior" with their own warped definition of "rape")? Something's not right here.

Either way Gaza's reputation's been permanently scarred. Even a frivolous accusation will certainly damage someone's reputation permanently, it's happened to many people in the past.

what i find interesting is that she claims she has proof in the form of those text messages from him admitting it but she won't release them

hmmm


Thanks for your insightful contribution.

I agree Six, too bad we have morons like Anarchist who believe everything they hear.

"If you’ve been raped by Jon before, please send me a message. I would love to hear others experiences."

"If you’ve been raped by Jon before, please send me a message. I would love to hear others experiences."

she makes him out to be a rapemaster

A little rape could spice this band up. Theyre pretty boring tbh.

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/oh_you.jpg?w=720

this is a fucked up situation. there are a lot of things that don't add up about the girl's story,
but you can't just assume she's lying or making it up because you don't want to believe it's true.
like yea, Gaza's a good band, but that doesn't mean Jon might not have done some regrettable things.
that being said I know nothing about him as a person. still, the whole "OMG DUMB BITCH ACCUSING GAZA
GUY OF RAPE, WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS?" mentality is really kinda unfair.

"cis-female // queer // pansexual // polyamorous // anarchist // white privileged // feminist // sociology major // creative writing minor // Boise, Idaho // myalgic encephalomyelitis // cuddle slut // misandrist // femme riot grrrl // "

That's all you need to know.

it could have happened but just because most of us are gaza fans, we can't just automatically assume it didn't because of bias.

gotta look at all of the facts, however sparse they may be at this point.

but yeah her tumblr is fucking awful and besides the whole rape thing she sounds like an awful excuse of a human being.

Rape is bad.

""cis-female // queer // pansexual // polyamorous // anarchist // white privileged // feminist // sociology major // creative writing minor // Boise, Idaho // myalgic encephalomyelitis // cuddle slut // misandrist // femme riot grrrl // "

That's all you need to know."

Exactly. It's totally okay to be out about how you're a misandrist, but how dare anyone have questions to your very feminist-leaning story about rape? I can't say if anything she says or he says is true, but I know the type of girl she self-admittedly claims to be.

Same girl BMTH peed on.

I don't know if it's true or not, I hope it isn't, and her description of herself doesn't exactly help her and her story. The fact she's decided to only take to Tumblr about it just furthers one's suspicions that it's BS.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3CseVXwLg"

my fucking god

how fucking stupid.

holy shit, someone just shot me..fuck going to the police, I'm posting this shit on facebook. better instagram a pic of the bullet wound too.

don't show the pic to anyone tho!

People on tumblr are skull-fuckingly retarded. If you have a good story they'll back it up to the death no matter how ridiculous. Remember Invisible Children and Kony?

There was even a 10000+ post about some spider on a toilet, something that has been pure bluff since the 90s

Tumblr is also a website that loves to support psychotic 16 yearold girls with bulimia and anorexia....by full on encouraging those habits.

If it's on the internet, it must be true.

"cis-female // queer // pansexual // polyamorous // anarchist // white privileged // feminist // sociology major // creative writing minor // Boise, Idaho // myalgic encephalomyelitis // cuddle slut // misandrist // femme riot grrrl // "

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wtf is manamo or whatever skel keeps saying and someone explain ting to me im kinda fuzzy on that too?????

Sociology majors are fucking losers.

not going to comment on who's lying/who's not but just thought it was interesting that she has a suggestive pic of herself on her tumblr with the caption "my motivation to do anything besides try to get laid is really low right now"

If she hasn't gone to the police it doesn't even deserve attention.

She seems like a credible source of information. Clearly someone who never stopped being 16 despite many birthdays since.

Dunno what to think. She justifies not going to the cops by saying she's an anarchist and anti-authority? If it's true she should swallow her pride this time and bring the dude to justice. If she's lying I feel so so sorry for the guy cos mud sticks. I couldn't imagine the stress of that.

If she started saying this shit on tumblr instead of going to police like a normal person should (and would) chances are she's lying. I'm not sure if she's revealed her name at any point, but if she hasn't, even more evidence that she's probably lying. Think about it, if nobody knows her name, and people discover this is all bullshit, well, she can just disappear off the internet for a while and nobody would ever know who it was.

I've had friends that have been raped. When they did tell people, it was close friends and family. They didn't get on tumblr and start parading it around on the internet.

i mean i have an ill-informed opinion but i don't want to even discuss it cause then i'm automatically taking a side in a fight that i have no reason to be a part of, but this whole situation is fucked either way.

I have absolutely nothing to contribute here.

This is probably not true

"She justifies not going to the cops by saying she's an anarchist and anti-authority"

Okay, if her dad or someone got murdered, she wouldn't call 911? Would she be too anti-authoritarian
and proud to do that? You're fucking kidding me. I bet she lives off government handouts anyways.

If what she is saying is genuinely true then she has gone the completely wrong way about this and is
setting a horrible precedent. She should have gone through the police if she wishes for her claims
to be actually taken seriously, and the fact that there is not a single mention about them in her
blog post does not paint a pretty picture.

Just recently a man was beaten to death in the UK because someone had accused him of rape, only for
the accuser to later admit the allegations were actually false and that she had made them completely
up.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9788265/Teenager-falsely-accused-of-rape-beaten-to-
death-by-gang.html

In all honesty, fuck her.

this is in no way related but she looks almost exactly like this crazy bitch that works at a local record shop. it's one of those uppity places where the employees try to base their lives around the movie "high fidelity". this bitch got mad once cause i didn't donate $10 to a local vegan bakery after she gave me a long guilt-trip speech. like i didn't have $10 extra i spent all my money on vinyl fuck. anyway has nothing to do with this i'm just still pissed about it. one love

what the fuck is going on

Honestly, women that lie about being raped should be thrown in fucking prison. My girlfriend's father spent the last 4 years in prison because his stepdaughter accused him of sexual molestation.

I hate people who bitch about not getting donations. And it's ALWAYS the uppity "toopunx4u" type of
people. I went to a show once at a venue run by those types of people and they were all bitching at
everyone for not donating to their venue. But at the same time, they were letting other uppity punx
people in for free. Just shut the fuck up, if you're not having half the people pay admission, then
you don't deserve anything.

People know who she is.

Rush. /m/

It is against the law. Clear cut case of slander. Get a judge to take that case.

"If you’ve been raped by Jon before, please send me a message. I would love to hear others experiences."

If this is an actual quote this shit can't be ferreal.

Oh yeah, what Dead said. That is definitely illegal if it's not true, I'm not entirely sure but I think this actually qualifies both for slander and defamation of character.

holy shhhhhh

lmfao

I'm quoting this from some guy's coment on their facebook page:



"First- a lot of people are saying shit along the lines, "there is no evidence that Jon DIDN'T rape her! he's just denying it!" Sorry, but she's the one making the claim. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON HER! A Tumblr rant with a story ending by telling everyone to attack the band is hardly proof. Honestly, she comes off as extremely biased against both Jon and the band right out of the gates.

Second- (from her Tumblr post) "Rapists shouldn't be allowed to exist in the hardcore/punk scene". I truly hope that she doesn't think this is the only place they shouldn't exist. I'm sure if asked to clarify she would say "Of course not!". But my point is this: This tumblr post is horribly written and it clearly isn't very well thought out. It seems like more of an attempt to bring the band down. Actually, it outright is. If she wanted Jon "brought to justice", she should have done the reasonable thing and gone to the police.

Third- (also a direct quote from her post) "If you’re going to be a rape apologist and say that what happened wasn't rape, just stop now. I don’t want to hear it. I know I was raped, and I don’t give a fuck what you say". This statement speaks volumes. The utter refusal to "give a fuck" what anyone says tells me that she will bury her head in the sand given any evidence to the contrary of what she believes. For example, being a 'rape apologist' and denying that her story is true are two completely different things. To sum up what I mean by that: I'm not defending her alleged rapist, I'm denying that her story is true. I'm not defending rape by denying an accusation of it. A rape apologist is a horrible thing to be. Asking an accuser to 'prove it' is RATIONAL. But I guess she doesn't 'give a fuck', right?

And last, but certainly not least- a rather disturbing and glaring mark of her character- her 'demands':

"I want to put him through an accountability process that involves Jon:
A ) apologizing both publicly and through a letter for raping me,
B ) reading and understanding books and zines about consent and rape and
C ) quitting Gaza until he deals with his shit"

A ) When dealt with legally, rapists are afforded that opportunity by the judicial system, right before being legitimately punished.
B ) Oh so you think zines (like yours maybe!) and books about rape are the right way to deal with rapists because
C ) 'dealing with his shit' would be all that he needs to do?

So rapists just need to apologize, read zines and books, and deal with their shit? I FEEL LIKE I'M ON CRAZY PILLS READING THIS!

I'm certain this comment won't change anything, and the accuser will never read it, but I'm absolutely infuriated by this. I don't know where else to speak what I'm thinking about all of this so here it is... A comment among hundreds to a response by a band in reply to an accusation of rape by some (as far as I can tell) dumb girl in Boise. Fuck. Good luck dealing with this, Jon."



And that's exactly how I feel about this case

he should be executed on a gas chamber, rape is not good .

"oh but it is an actual quote wolf."

Holy shit, could someone be more inauthentic about something like that? I bet a judge would have his fun with statements like these.

I agree Six, too bad we have morons like Anarchist who believe everything they hear.

too bad sputnik is so uncertain about a fact

"anyone can claim anything and make it convincing online if they're fucked up enough and I'm sure they're banking on people thinking "well why would someone go through the trouble." well there are people out there who just like to ruin others lives for shits and giggles or it always helps if they're pushed by something maybe the person did to piss them off that's completely unrelated."
Quite frankly, the quotes I've read from that post do not in any way come across as convincing. Even less so, what she writes comes across as calculated and thought out.

I think what the girl meant was that Jon raped her ears when she heard their latest album.

Yeah, but that's easier to fake than a rape story. Especially considering 'Specs actually admitted to doing similar things for apparently no reason at all.

recspecs is black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3CseVXwLg

This girls a fucking idiot. Confirmed.

"I'd still have to provide real evidence if I hoped for a conviction."
Of course, but I wasn't talking about that. I was just talking about how believable your story would be.

"recspecs is black."
Oh, hi Hollier.

That's actually a possible scenario, lol.

power for power, use hate for freedom, money for cruelty, dicks for bondage, slavery as a motto.

wouldn't be surprised, these days anything is possible and horny teenagers getting butthurt afterwards sex, being a sensible state of mind feeling guilty about her actions, is more than real.

Myrkur, This is exactly what I'm arguing. It seems too pre-plannes, it seems like she has covered every base in which anyone can question her. She let time lapse so there can be no physical evidence. These texts she supposedly has are not printed, which seems crazy to me since people are asking her for evidence left and right. She is trying to push an agenda and found a mark to fulfill it with. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, I will deplore his actions, I'll be sickened by the whole situation; but there is absolutely no evidence of anything right now except defamation of Jon. I am a survivor of long-time sexual abuse and was accused of rape in high school (which was later recanted by the girl) and I still carry a really unseemly nickname in my hometown for it.

Obvious BS imo

this thread is getting too real

Yep, just read the declaration of the woman, it's like I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING BUT HERE ARE ALL THE DETAILS. and the fact of slandering on the internet instead of calling police is dodgy in itself

Ya. I'm gonna call bullshit.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3CseVXwLg"

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck why cant i watch this :{

about the whole situation, it'd seem silly for me to take a side (although i am bias cause gaza rawks) so i'll just say this, i really really really hope the history is not true (and the lack of evidence and the obvious denial to pursuit legal actions make it seem so), however if it were true, then he should be accountable for everything he did, and if he aint, he should sue her ass for Slander and Defamation and make her responsible for what she said, and to the guy who said it seemed wierd that Jon is trying to avoid legal actions, remember what happened to randy blythe and all the money lawyers cost to a small bands.

agreed, lawyers killed dead kennedys even though they won the trial

http://amindfullofyou.tumblr.com/tagged/me

>taking pictures of herself in a hospital bed

riiighhht, as if I'm going to take anything from this woman seriously

also she looks like a skrillex

Comments on the facebook page are interesting. Especially the ones claiming this woman has a
reputation for slander in the past.

I don't believe this is true.
Imagine the woman letting some of her friends listen to Gaza: "OMG THIS IS EVIL RAPE MUSIC OF THE DEVIL IT IS TRUE"

I believe him. She didn't go to da coppas, after all

The whole way this has been posted is dodgy. It's too calculated and detailed. I know rape victims often have trouble reporting it but surely that would apply to speaking out on the internet as well. If anything, that'd be even harder to do and it feels like there's too much conviction in this post.
And not going to the police cos you're an "anarchist" is bullshit. The whole way it's been done is geared towards people just accepting her word without her having to prove anything and it feels like the band/frontman being shunned is her prime target, rather than him just generally being exposed.
Only thing that really seems convincing about the post is the oddities; dunno if some of the things in this story would be the first things to come to your head if you making it up (such as it happening when she was sleeping and him not being painted as pure brute evil in the scenario), although maybe they would be for someone determined and sly enough to make it seem convincing

But there's nothing to be done until actual evidence is given.

im from spain, I got moves she dont know nothing 'bout

Since someone already said it. This woman is pretty big in the blog world and feminist circles. I sent links to a friend of mine who writes for a couple different magazines and is also quite involved in the feminist movement (not at all in riot grrrl though). She says in the story about how she was taking part in her Slut Walk, my friend was one of the organizers of Slut Walk in D.C.. Word from people that knew her was that she had talked about taking "down a band that is misogynistic but wraps themselves in socially liberal ideals. It will bring attention to rape apologists and rape culture in general.". This IS all third-hand statement, but it's starting to get attention. This is simply a ploy for her to sell more of her product and to give her legitimacy in what she writes about. Again, just for the sake of not starting a fight, if I am wrong, I will eat my words.

Jesus some of the fucking comments on that status are absolutely infuriating.

I really, really want to believe that this isn't true.

thanks mr mod! im so silly :3

Seems like an odball situation, im accusing someone of rape but refuse to go to the police yet i still want justice. Seriously wtf!?

Meh. There won't be charges. Deny it, write a song about it, Oli Sykes style. Who gives a shit.

"Since someone already said it. This woman is pretty big in the blog world and feminist circles. I sent links to a friend of mine who writes for a couple different magazines and is also quite involved in the feminist movement (not at all in riot grrrl though). She says in the story about how she was taking part in her Slut Walk, my friend was one of the organizers of Slut Walk in D.C.. Word from people that knew her was that she had talked about taking "down a band that is misogynistic but wraps themselves in socially liberal ideals. It will bring attention to rape apologists and rape culture in general.". This IS all third-hand statement, but it's starting to get attention. This is simply a ploy for her to sell more of her product and to give her legitimacy in what she writes about. Again, just for the sake of not starting a fight, if I am wrong, I will eat my words."

After reading her post and looking at her descriptions of herself and being s00per judgmental and whatnot, I find this very believable.

But I mean, internet and whatnot. RAPE IS WRONG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_uyxAvYsM

AFTER EVERYTHING YOU'VE PUT ME THROUGH I SHOULD'VE FUCKING PISSED ON YOU!


Dude's innocent. Gonna buy Gaza merch now cause that bitch told me not to.

i'm just saying as a complete hypothetical, if i did actually happen, you guys are gonna look like a huge bunch of cunts

no that i'm saying it did happen

but still
best to reserve judgement until all of the facts have been brought forth

Gaza - "No Absolutes in Female Suffering"

TBA 2013

If she is telling the truth, she should have gone about it in a non fucktarded way

I don't believe this is true at all.

The person who is absolutely my closest and dearest friend, whom I love very deeply has dealt with abuse of this sort, which almost resulted in rape... horrible stuff. You can see the pain in their eyes, and they try to bury it every day.

I believe this woman is faking it. I know numerous individuals who have been raped and they keep their stories shut up tighter than the Hoover Dam. It's not something they tell really anyone about because they feel deeply ashamed and hurt by it. No way would they ever go on Tumblr, or any public forum, and talk about it. Heck, they don't even go to police because they're so hurt and sad.

If she is telling the truth, she should have gone about it in a non fucktarded way [2]

Yeah. I'm not believing this bitch for a second.

Read the story. Total BS.

Okay, if you were just raped, you're not going to have a "list of demands" at the end of your "public statement."

There wasn't a single mention of any emotional feelings there, simply that he had sex with her while she was sleeping and she couldn't find her underwear when she ran out of the room. Total BS. I don't even listen to Gaza at all, don't even know much about them. But I can tell this is pretty fake. If you were raped (and I know how it goes, because I've helped multiple individuals RIGHT after the event, along with recovery years after.) it seems to almost always be DEEPLY emotional. Deeply scarring, deeply upsetting. I didn't see any of that here. Seems pretty empty to me.

I could be wrong, but based on the (sadly, I have it) experience I have helping out the unfortunate victims of rape I know, this story is totally out of the ordinary in terms of its lack of emotions and inherent pain. I'm calling it. I think it's fake.

I agree with Alien Jesus

Just a thought for all the psychologists on sputnik who are apparently so qualified to call bullshit on this because they've helped a friend who was also victimized: People react to things differently. Rape included.

I am highly skeptical of these allegations but I wouldn't write all of this off until I've heard more. I know girls like this and they are often fucking crazy. Who knows why she is going about it this way? Maybe she really does believe this is the strongest most independent way to do it.

I just can't help but laugh at all the men in here saying "Yeah she isn't feeling enough pain, must be bullshit." I love Gaza, I think this story is false, but try to not be such a fucking idiot about it if your going to try and play the intellectual card.

He's one of them rapers eh?

ITT chauvinist mysogynist sexist homophobic racist genderqueer-hating rape-culture-supporting pigs.

How does someone not wake up before they're in the middle of being fucked? And if she had no interest in him what the hell was she doing sleeping in the same bed as him?

"How does someone not wake up before they're in the middle of being fucked?"
yeah, that does actually happen

And if she had no interest in him what the hell was she doing sleeping in the same bed as him?
No other bed and no sleeping bag or blanket pillow for the floor maybe? maybe it was cold as fuck and there was no heating? maybe he just jumped in and she didnt want to cause a huge problem if he wasnt going to be a dick about it? I dunno, I've slept in beds with people without fucking them.

Nobody in this thread knows shit. Sure tumblr is iffy but maybe she's fucking dumb. Her being dumb doesn't mean Jon did or didn't which nobody knows at this point.

nuts

happens

well shit

m/

Yeah that room is fucking atrocious he definitely couldn't have slept on the floor

she claims she told him they weren't going to have sex, and that he was persistent, and yet still sleeps in the same bed with him?

If someone raped you, why would you go back to get your coat? lol I'd want to get the hell out of there asap

He is never cumming back.

Eh I tried.

http://www.shakesville.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html

also idk if it's a true claim or not BUT let's try to keep the misogynistic slurs to a minimum shall we

or maybe even not try and tell rape victims how the 'best' way of reacting is

ugh

Honestly, I dont believe her. And really, what does she have to gain by slandering a band that very few people know about? [2]

"Honestly, I dont believe her. And really, what does she have to gain by slandering a band that very few people know about? [2]"
sounds like your two sentences contradict

this is so clearly a ploy, no man could get away with this kinda shit

taking advantage free female-victimization sympathy points...so much for strong and independent feminism

no man could get away with this kinda shit

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT FALSIFYING BEING RAPED

Oh yeah, going online and creating a post demanding an apology and a band member's removal is totally how to respond to being raped. This woman is either completely full of shit or a total fucking idiot.

If she was raped (and had a functioning brain) and could prove it she'd go to the cops, not the internet.

Well, this sure isn't a feather in his cap.

Skeletor probably fabricated this whole rape ordeal to piss us off.

Everyone on the internet is skeletor.

"I believe this woman is faking it. I know numerous individuals who have been raped and they keep their stories shut up tighter than the Hoover Dam. It's not something they tell really anyone about because they feel deeply ashamed and hurt by it. No way would they ever go on Tumblr, or any public forum, and talk about it. Heck, they don't even go to police because they're so hurt and sad."

This so fucking hard. I said something along these lines on that status and some idiot called me a misogynistic asshole. lol.

"my motivation to do anything besides try to get laid is really low right now"

"http://www.shakesville.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html"

Some of the things in here are absolutely asinine.

" Rape culture is a judge blaming a child for her own rape. "

When has this ever happened?

since never

if: rape victim is woman; then innocent/not guilty

i'm calling bullshit. everyone on tumblr is looking for attention. i say this as a tumblr user myself

if there was a witness to the aftermath, and he supposedly still has her underwear, this can push her case in the right direction with authorities. working in media and taking her story to tumblr just makes it seem like she's trying to get attention. or maybe she's just that hxc punk anarchy br00tal that she doesn't give a shit about the cops and just wants to humiliate the dude

'" Rape culture is a judge blaming a child for her own rape. "

When has this ever happened?'

There are links on the article dawg. Also: people (or, for the purposes of this conversation, women; i
am aware that men can and do get raped also) react to rape differently. There is no one 'right' way to
react, and it's shit-sure not anyone here's place to decide if a victim went about things the 'right'
way or not because that's bullshit.

hope this isn't true, that would suck if you were accused of raping someone i can't even imagine how that would feel

Hey, guys. I was just violated in my sleep. I better go blog about it on tumblr.

So is 4chan, reddit, and 9gag.

*9fag

I think you meant;
Le 9 le gag le army le for le life le.

If she is telling the truth, she should have gone about it in a non fucktarded way [3]

after reading her tumblr, I can safely say I find nothing about her genuine.

"There are links on the article dawg. Also: people (or, for the purposes of this conversation, women; i
am aware that men can and do get raped also) react to rape differently. There is no one 'right' way to
react, and it's shit-sure not anyone here's place to decide if a victim went about things the 'right'
way or not because that's bullshit."

Okay so it happened once. Doesn't make it a culture.

This woman is also a feminist. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that, nor does it make what that judge did okay (he's an idiot obviously) but she's obviously very very biased towards men as a gender. Like I said, some of the things in that article linked are true, but a huge chunk of it is completely ridiculous.

love this comment:

After doing some google digging on Jeana Marie Harris AKA amindfullofyou, I think I've figured out why she won't go to the cops. It's because she has quite the arrest record for defacing public property, destroying private property, and assault of a public servant, so her case would probably get thrown out on credibility issues alone. This girl is so full of shit, her eyes are brown.

'Okay so it happened once. Doesn't make it a culture.

This woman is also a feminist. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that, nor does it make what that judge did okay (he's an idiot obviously) but she's obviously very very biased towards men as a gender. Like I said, some of the things in that article linked are true, but a huge chunk of it is completely ridiculous.'

Dude 1.i'm a feminist too don't be dissin' and 2. it's nothing to do with being biased against men as a gender, it's more nuanced than that; it's about recognising the way the frameworks on which societies are based subjugate and regulate females (and people of colour, people on the LGBTQ* spectrum etc.) unfairly. And the idea that women 'deserve it' because they wear revealing clothing is part and parcel of that egregious subjugation, and that an 11yo girl can be treated that way is indicative of how pervasive this culture of 'slut-shaming' really is

Like normally, I'd be sensitive about this because it hits REALLY close to home to me. Closer than I ever thought possible. I don't want to call someone who claims this to be making crap up.

But it's super obvious in this case. If it's legitimate rape, then I'll be SUPREMELY surprised.

Well yeah i don't want to say he's guilty right away because obviously he might not be; i just don't know and i don't want to leap to a hasty assumption. But seeing comments calling her a 'slut' and a 'bitch' and saying 'OMG why didn't she go to the police why didn't she react in a more palatable way to my personal beliefs' really irks me.

He writes very eloquently. Just an all-around well-written letter. Hope he's innocent.

"Well yeah i don't want to say he's guilty right away because obviously he might not be; i just don't know and i don't want to leap to a hasty assumption. But seeing comments calling her a 'slut' and a 'bitch' and saying 'OMG why didn't she go to the police why didn't she react in a more palatable way to my personal beliefs' really irks me. "

Yeah I get that, and I agree. I'm not saying she SHOULD have gone to the police. I'm just saying, based on the people I personally know who deal with this daily, it is a very very sensitive matter and nothing they would EVER announce on some public forum like Tumblr. And if they did it would be far more full of emotion than just describing how she got her clothes and then demanding a list of actions from the band, etc.
It seems pretty obviously fake to me. I could be totally wrong, but I think there's a 95%+ chance this is doctored and false. Especially since apparently she made a post like two weeks prior about how she just wanted to get laid more than anything... Which tells me that she wouldn't say no to sex with a guy that she was already sleeping in the same room with. Seems a little weird to me. But I dunno.

"Skeletor probably fabricated this whole rape ordeal to piss us off.

Everyone on the internet is skeletor."

Laughed so fucking hard

"Dude 1.i'm a feminist too don't be dissin' and 2. it's nothing to do with being biased against men as a gender, it's more nuanced than that; it's about recognising the way the frameworks on which societies are based subjugate and regulate females (and people of colour, people on the LGBTQ* spectrum etc.) unfairly. And the idea that women 'deserve it' because they wear revealing clothing is part and parcel of that egregious subjugation, and that an 11yo girl can be treated that way is indicative of how pervasive this culture of 'slut-shaming' really is"

1. My comment explicitly said "not that there's anything inherently wrong with that." and 2. I never said feminism was against men as a gender, I said the writer of the article was. And a lot of women do treat it that way too, at least from what I've seen. I know what feminism is supposed to be, I just see a lot of women that take that notion a bit too far. I know women typically get treated unfairly, but sometimes they don't help their cause by generalizing all men as being pigs. The women that wrote that article made it seem like everything that society does is made to make women inferiors, and that's just simply not true.

sounds like bullshit. going to tumblr and not the cops....um, ok. and this band is pretty smart, they dont seem like the rapey type at all

http://amindfullofyou.tumblr.com/post/40807603441/in-respect-to-the-incident-aforementioned-on-my

lol

It's because of people like her that people don't take rape accusations seriously

god fucking dammit i hate people. what does that even mean???

HAHAHAHA

"what does that even mean???"

It means "I was talking out of my ass and now that everybody is catching on I'm going to cop out and disappear before it gets bad."

http://amindfullofyou.tumblr.com/post/40807603441/in-respect-to-the-incident-aforementioned-on-my

ha. haha.

Damn, too late

oh my christ fucking lol

that actually kinda pisses me off. she's kinda taking the pussy way out by just sweeping the whole
thing under the rug and refusing to take it any further, completely ruining jon's reputation in the
process

goddamn that's stupid

Everyone on the internet is skeletor. [2]

well now he's got grounds to sue her, i know i would.

i'm halo effecting this guy hard

you have to commend the way Gaza handled this situation. they could have been overly defensive or accusatory but totally weren't

Everyone on the internet is skeletor.

http://amindfullofyou.tumblr.com/post/40807603441/in-respect-to-the-incident-aforementioned-on-my

Neither of us are retracting our respective statements— instead we are deciding to not discuss it
further and move on.

But of course. #tumblrfeminizm #misandry #rapeculture

#about30minutestoolate #lollearn2read

#hashtagsarefuckinggay #soistwitter #andtumblr

Sorry, the comments section was supposed to be closed or...? And what did I read wrong?

Besides people acting like they know how a woman would react to being raped, I don't see that much misogyny...

"Besides people acting like they know how a woman would react to being raped,"

Considering that some of us are speaking from personal experience, our statements aren't unfounded.

Were you personally raped? That's sad, buddy. I'm sorry.

But still, your personal reaction =/= everyone's reaction.

kind of funny that out of all the bands in the world that she could go crazy on, say big rich bands like metallica,shitty pop bands, etc. she chose a relatively small band like Gaza.Don't know enough info yet to really make a stand on this but for now sounds like some fuckin crazy ass fan or something so all support to Jon and Gaza from my end here.

"Were you personally raped? That's sad, buddy. I'm sorry.

But still, your personal reaction =/= everyone's reaction."

Friends were. I didn't say everybody reacts that way, I said that people that are are typically quiet about it. I mean really, if a stranger were to force themselves into you, would you really want everybody to know that? My guess is probably not. Hence why the tumblr post was suspicious (along with other reasons.)

Maybe she didn't want to disclose the details of the rape to the public in the months following it,
but after, I dunno', therapy, she overcomed whatever reason she had not to. But after months, the
evidence 'disappears', so she couldn't go to the police.

This is all hypothetical, though. Honestly, I don't believe a word of what she said, but it worth
considering it.

EDIT: ...And even then, there's a reason we don't slander people like that. Even rapists deserve a
fair trial.

"Were you personally raped? That's sad, buddy. I'm sorry.

But still, your personal reaction =/= everyone's reaction."

I've met someone who was raped once.

That person was really quiet, she didn't want to talk about it at all, she was very closed off. I don't know much beyond that since I didn't want to push.

From what I read, that's the most common reaction there is, and it's typically along the lines of some sort of trauma, if not then they usually just continue with their lives while avoiding the topic all together and just pretend it never happened.

Who seriously would go to Tumblr, with a set list of demands, to announce to the world that she was raped just a few moments ago?

Horse shit

If this is a false report, I will frankly be livid. My girlfriend, sister, and several friends have been sexually assaulted, and I myself was accuse of rape by a girl who was obssessed with me. Everyone who knew me personally knew it wasn't true, but damn, word seems to really get around that the quiet guy who seems harmless violated a girl whose hymen is mysteriously still intact. Until she finally stood up a year later to tell it was all a lie, I was humiliated every day, and even nearly beaten to death by her family. That is the fucking power of a grandiose lie.

ViralOblivion: I think someone already made that joke. Still true, lol.

gwynbleidd: I think you're right about the general reaction to being raped. But still, deviations from
the norm exist. :/
And living their lives like it never happened sounds horrible.

As I said, I don't believe a word of it. It's not like it would be the first time someone pretends to
be raped.

As an aside: It's pretty shitty to try to undermine her position because of her sex life.

"gwynbleidd: I think you're right about the general reaction to being raped. But still, deviations from
the norm exist. :/"

That may be so, but they're rare, to the point that it's better to just assume any case you see would unrable like this until proven otherwise.

And my point still stands, just, who would go to the internet to announce rape? At least before she even went to the cops? Did she even went to the cops at all?

Also put yourself an avy before everyone(Including me) start thinking you're another Skeletor alt.

"That may be so, but they're rare, to the point that it's better to just assume any case you see would unrable like this until proven otherwise."

-Actually, it would be better to give the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt. Although at this point...

"And my point still stands, just, who would go to the internet to announce rape? At least before she even went to the cops? Did she even went to the cops at all?"

-She might be of the tumblr feminists that believe the police hates them or something.

"Also put yourself an avy before everyone(Including me) start thinking you're another Skeletor alt."

-I thought everyone was skeletor (?).

Oh, and is Deviant. deleting all comments now? Lol.

i was accused of kidnapping a girl once
the cops came to my door and they were all like
we have phone records! we have proof!
and i was like 'heh alright man'
and my mom told them 'he doesnt even have the energy to do that'
which is true
i forgot to feed her

whoa

some foxxxy poetry for you

beautiful prose it touched me between the lungs

NEW PIG DESTROYER SONG BY FOXXXY

Those do sound like some Pig Destroyer lyrics.

but back to the topic, tumblr/the internet will forget in a week, Gaza will keep on truckin, and anyone who encounters this chick will never know a thing about it.

also, with her record, she'll probably smash a cop car's windows for punk points.

thx for all the kind words every1

http://amindfullofyou.tumblr.com/post/40807603441/in-respect-to-the-incident-aforementioned-on-my

^^^

Called it. It was totally slander.

i like how it doesnt have nearly as many reblogs people are fucking dumb

i like how it doesnt have nearly as many reblogs people are fucking dumb [2]

people are fucking dumb [∞]

She worded that last entry VERY carefully. Exactly how do you come to an agreement with someone you just put on blast for raping you in less than a day, but didn't before this? I hope he lawyers his ass up so he can take her to court. If for no other reason except to show that false allegations are harmful to those who have actually been raped. And to publicly clear his name. Forever, when Gaza comes to a town now, at least a few people will be thinking/saying "didn't that lead singer dude rape some chick?". This kind of shit sticks forever and it's the most humiliating thing to live through. To constantly have to defend yourself from whispers and stares. This whole thing makes me sick.

What a bitch.

This thread is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen on Sputnik

"not gonna read, but I'm guessing this thread is full of misogyny and hatred, like this is a huge deal. Women are horrible! But the fact that rape happens all the time and is 10000 times more common than false reports is no reason to be upset"

this is true, but there's a whole lot stacked up against her in this one.

I am no "rape master" but this reeks of bullshit.

I mean this guy could probably get any girl he wants. You would be hard pressed to find someone who didn't want to fuck the lead singer of Gaza.

Yeah, because Gaza's as big as One Direction.

I'm not saying that the members of One Direction are straight. That's an unfounded allegation.


Their 13 year old fangirls think they are though.

Aren't they all Lance Bass?