About fuckin time.
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alexa, play "no one mourns the wicked"
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Awesome. I hope the knife is okay.
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Lets fuckin go
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Lmao had to double check and sure enough they had a song on their final album called "Better Off Dead" truly prophetic indeed and about time. Good fucking riddance.
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m/
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Prayers out for the knife that stabbed him
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Someone wanna gift me their Fake Sound Of Progress vinyl
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Rest in fucking piss
Justice unfurls its wings
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How this slimeball lasted as long as he did I'll never know. Good riddance.
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protective custody, probably
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i mentioned in the other threads: he hired inmate bodyguards with his band money, and also dealt drugs in prison
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Convicted murderers love getting their hands on pedos. Good for them I suppose
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Shocking but not surprising. Dude is burning right now
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Yeah it's good to hear the trash has been taken out but I wonder why it took over a decade for anyone to get to him unless he was in strict isolation
I was just watching an interview with Chopper Read, Australian criminal anti hero, who claims to have hung a child raping murderer, and asked why he did it he said there was a gentleman's agreement among all the other prisoners that anyone who got the opportunity to kill him was obliged to do so, and he was the first one to get the chance when they forgot to close his cell door.
here's an ad he did for violence against women, we need more campaigns like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgog1m2rOdA
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Mega lolz
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dayum. got his ass finally.
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Peace bitch. Eat shit.
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Currently on the front page, on separate threads made at different times, sitting one on top of another we have: ‘Ian Watkins Stabbed’ and ‘Ian Watkins Killed in Prison’.
This… this is good.
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womp womp!
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this may be the only thing in sput history where everyone is on the same page
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Nice
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Yay!
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Awesome news!
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Best news I have heard all day.
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"this may be the only thing in sput history where everyone is on the same page"
All news articles are one page
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fuck you always get me good
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Lmao nigga got fucked good
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Couldn't have happened to a better person
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Ain’t karma a bitch.
Good fucking riddance, scum of the Earth. The world is now a better place without you in it.
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Rot in shit Ian Watkins, because piss is to good for you, come on yall spread the word rot in shit (RIS) tehe
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this may be the only thing in sput history where everyone is on the same page
Damn, ain’t that the truth.
Waiting for someone to say RIP. Not holding my breath.
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oh
anyway
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RIS
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Well, I had no knowledge on the man nor his band before, but...
"sexual misconduct against victims as young as one year old"
...good Lord, what the fuck?
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Good riddance.
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legit question… was the band even good?
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@arthropod
dude spare yourself, live in ignorance.
Seriously, it’s that bad. Might be the most heinous thing a single person has ever done.
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Oh no, anyways
And yeah atho if you don’t already know don’t read into it
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"Seriously, it’s that bad. Might be the most heinous thing a single person has ever done."
That we know of! Sadly there is probably far more even more disgusting people just like him that are even more depraved. Ugh, sorry to derail! I'll just keep it positive and I'm glad this fucking piece of shit is dead.
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Even hell is too nice of a place for this scum stain.
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yeah u dont really need to know more details
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"legit question… was the band even good?"
I was very personally relieved at the time that I never had to do the mental gymnastics of "separate the art from the artist" thing, as I never liked the band or thought what they did was any good... they had like ONE riff when they came out, and just jumped on musical trends and bandwagons that appeared to be commercially viable.
They had their fans (for musical reasons). Some of their albums contemporaneously scored quite highly in the (at least UK) music press.
There wasn't any obvious sign that it would become what it did.
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Interested to know the exact motive behind why he was killed if that ever gets revealed. This might not have been "lets kill the pedo for the sake of killing the pedo" as he was also a drugdealer in prison.
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https://share.google/yos7C1bZ6i5dsbCJZ
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It was inevitable, just surprised it took this long.
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99% percent of the time murder is bad but this is def in that 1% where we should all be celebrating that mf taking the last train home to hell to get butt fucked by giant demon babies for eternity
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Glad that it's all over for this vile sub-human, hope he suffered until the last breath. May this bring some sort of closure to his victims (difficult, I know), and may his name never be printed or spoken of ever again, from this day onwards.
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Rest in Piss shitbag
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finally, some good news to bring people together
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there isn't a level of hell suitable for this guy
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shinobi vs dragon is the only truly good song this band ever released and i can't even listen to it anymore
although now that he's dead maybe that will change
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"finally, some good news to bring people together"
Amen. Sput unified at last.
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I vote we commute the sentence of the person who got him.
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lol why do they need to establish a motive
what this guy did is so disgusting that even the most fucked up criminals would feel nauseous after looking it up
it's morbidly amusing to see people trying to grandstand about prison violence until they go read the court transcripts and then they say "ah yeah i see why now"
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I've always kinda felt bad for his bandmates (assuming they were completely unaware). No matter what they do they'll always be associated with this monster. I think they actually put out an album with the dude from Thursday but I never listened to it. Tbs, I've only ever heard that one lostprophets song about trains or whatever because it was on mtv when I was like 10.
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Took the inmates long enough to get the memo i guess
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The last time I went to Wakefield station, there was a 'mega lolz' sticker in the toilet. I couldn't tell whether it was in support of Watkins or not.
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yeah I'm sure some of those guys feel like they're permanently blacklisted. I'd be pretty devastated if my frontman turned out to be such a sadist.
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This is so fucking awesome
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This is the reason I'll never support the death penalty.
1. the wrong people are often executed.
2. the state shouldn't get to decide so explicitly who lives and dies.
3. nonces can't be brutally killed in prison if they don't go to prison
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imagining him pulling up to hell in the Lostprophets GT-R from NFS Underground and having to spend the rest of eternity getting rammed head-on by a semi in it
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FWIW No Devotion are still going but they're a trio now with Lee Gaze and Stuart Richardson the only ones left alongside Geoff Rickly. Jamie Oliver quit music, Luke Johnson started a grunge band with Stitch D from the Defiled and the bassist from the Ataris (band is called Lowlives), others idk.
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Rest in piss bozo
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"I vote we commute the sentence of the person who got him."
The person is probably a murderer on a life sentence anyway. they have nothing to lose
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Yeah the guy who murdered him is probably also a piece of shit but maybe give him a slice of chocolate cake or some shit
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Fucking brutal death too. Dude got him right in the jugular. Watkins had been a dead man walking since he stepped foot in there.
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*Oz theme plays*
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Cat A prisons are fucking bleak. He'll have been scared, alone and surrounded by people who despise him.
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I dont celebrate death usually but rot in piss you disgusting piece of shit
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apparently he had 3 different groupies allowed to visit him in jail and have close contact with him. not that speak over a phone through the glass shit. and guitar lessons too. UK jails are a joke tbh
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I don't know which UK prisons you've seen but I have worked in them before and I can assure you it's very unlikely he had a revolving door of groupies visiting. Letters, sure, but I doubt it was more than that. People think it's all xboxes and cooked dinners but at the highest level of security, there's very little to do beyond work for 50p a day, stare at the walls and smoke spice.
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g-
groupies
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im just reading what I saw in the UK press from a few years ago
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We can rule out Robert Maudsley as a suspect - though he has claimed to have only ever killed sex offenders (including two while incarcerated in HMP Wakefield), he's been in solitary confinement since 1983 (as a result of killing aforementioned offenders) and was moved out of Wakefield to a different prison a few months ago.
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God damn. Is he the most hated person in music history?
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doesn't get worse than literally raping babies
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"God damn. Is he the most hated person in music history?"
Ever? I'm pretty sure, yes.
Deservedly.
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Yeah I can't think of anyone that has done anything worse so if he is then it's 100% deserved
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Gary Glitter in second place
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@futures he was coercing the mothers into not only giving him their babies but actively participating in things like genital mutilation and penetration with foreign objects
things i couldn't even process when i read them
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This guy was pure evil. I’m not sad about it.
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yeah seeing stuff like that almost makes me think demons are real man. unfathomable, it's not human.
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Did they ever find those mothers that offered up their sacrificial sex babies?? Hope they're dead too ngl.
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And nothing of value was lost!
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i feel bad for the knife
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I very much try to avoid describing things as "evil" in day to day life as I think it minimizes a lot of truly awful thing but I have no problem saying that Ian Watkins was fucking EVIL and I'm glad hes dead.
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wow holy shit. yeah this “man” was on a whole different level of evil demonic behavior
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I would never celebrate the death of another human being, but this motherfucker wasn't human. Rest in piss fuckface.
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This is so fucking awesome'
this
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Did the mothers ever get a sentence? They are just as evil as him, if not worse.
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i remember they did
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"And then what did you do? You took your little boy’s penis in your mouth and
gave him oral sex. You then took the boy’s hand and put it on your own
vagina. Watkins then masturbated the boy. The planning and graphic detail are
bad enough. The videoing of what you were both doing is an aggravating
factor. The enjoyment both of you can be seen to derive from what you were
doing is both sickening and incomprehensible."
Source: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf
==
eugh, I don't condone murdering someone, but this is real gross at best.
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Ya I read the mothers got like 14 and 17 years respectively… so ones getting out soon if she hasn’t already
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^ damn I didn't need to read that, what the actual fuck
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can't imagine it being your job to watch that stuff. those dudes deserve every medal possible.
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There's a reason the jurors all needed counselling after the trial.
Anyway two inmates have been arrested.
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Wish they'd waited until later in his sentence but at least he'll never get out
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lmao hell yea, best news I've seen in years
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he got his neck slashed with a toothbrush. That must’ve sucked. Good
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Seriously anyone saying I dont condone murder get in the fking bin
he deserved to be tortured every single minute of his life up until death. He got a few years in a jail and hopefully a painful death but not even close to what he deserved
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so it was a shank? dang, i assumed but the article said knife smh
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I hope it was long and drawn out so he could feel even an iota of the suffering he inflicted on those children. May his grave be danced and pissed upon for eternity.
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Good
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oH BuT hE HaD a FaMiLy
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I'd like to imagine his time in the general population was a living nightmare
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^it was, several prisoners are on record with reporters/journalist saying that he was pretty much a hostage to the inmates/constant target of extortion, it's honestly surprising he didn't get murked years ago. but yeah, good riddance
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Ian Watkins stabbed with a poop knife? Hell yeah this year rules
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finally, some good news
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hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
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"Seriously anyone saying I dont condone murder get in the fking bin
he deserved to be tortured every single minute of his life up until death. He got a few years in a jail and hopefully a painful death but not even close to what he deserved"
Yeah to me the best suffering he should've gotten was being in solitary confinement 24hrs non-stop little food or water. Just lose his mind slowly over time due to the boredom and isolation wanting to die but unable to do literally anything.
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FearThyEvil Well I agee on this one because unlike having a political opinion this guy did gross shit to a child. Which is way worse, if scummy people like murderers find those types of people disgusting. Not many people are going to stick up for a guy like that.
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megalolz
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Read a bit more about the case out of morbid curiosity
Apparently he had 27 terrabytes of child and animal exploitation material - five times as much data as the Wales police department
He also argued to that he was 'behind bars with 'murderers, mass murderers, rapists, paedophiles, serial killers - the worst of the worst'
He was stabbed in 2023 when it was discovered he was having visits from a younger 'girlfriend' and was allowed to have three groupies visit him in prison including one with whom he was seen holding hands and and kissing.
And as usual police repeatedly ignored allegations and tried to gaslight the lady who reached out as being an obsessive stalker, it wasn't until his laptop was seized in a drug raid that they lifted the lid on his sick shit
While I'm glad now he will never be released I wish it happened on his last day in prison so he could suffer as much as possible
And at times like this I wish I believed in hell
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Why are people so aggressive in the comment box? Is everybody deranged these days? Might want to turn off the internet if you can’t rise above the tribal mindset.
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"Yeah the guy who murdered him is probably also a piece of shit but maybe give him a slice of chocolate cake or some shit"
lmao
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You right I don't know the other guy, but still I will say I won't feel bad for a guy that does terrible things to children. Me saying (RIS) isn't me celebrating his death, that's just me saying oh well.
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Nothing hypocritical about rejoicing over the death of evil scum, especially under these circumstances, that's the only morally proper response as far a I'm concerned, anything else is just some misplaced sense of deontological virtue and performative mourning or rigid religious dogma 'murder = bad' (while those same belief systems typically prescribe murder for certain offences).
It's not deriving gratification from death in some calloused, sadistic sense... it's the symbolic value and sense of closure it can offer, if not a tangible reassurance that they can do no further harm.
Were our great grandparents supposed to have mixed feelings upon hearing that hitler had painted his bunker with his brain?
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"Why are people so aggressive in the comment box?"
Because the world is genuinely and unequivocally a better place without Ian Watkins in it.
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Great news. I'd doubt the piece of filth ever felt any remorse and it's not like he was getting out anyway, but still a feel good story. Hopefully he bled out slowly and painfully.
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Rest in piss
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Good. Fucking bastard was a threat to humanity.
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He’s going to “Burn Burn” in Hell for eternity.
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this is the best news article ever. Fuck that guy.
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anyone not celebrating this guys death is fucked. Guy should have been dead a long time ago.
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I love that the little things can still bring our user base together.... also, I'm with whoever it was that mentioned their surprise that he lasted this long.
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Found out about this via the UK Simpsons meme group on FB. Someone posted a meme of Homer Simpson looking up at the stars with Ian “H” Watkins from Steps face over the moon. I had no clue who he was but looking at the comments revealed everything to me, and I instantly had to check if it was true.
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"Why are people so aggressive in the comment box? Is everybody deranged these days? Might want to turn off the internet if you can’t rise above the tribal mindset."
So you're cool with people raping babies? Got it.
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Baseline about to feel the Sput wrath
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Genuinely hope he just wasn't aware of the atrocities he committed
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Does this mean Lostprophets can now find a new better singer? Im all for it. Rest in pain pdfile!
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Does this mean Lostprophets can now find a new better singer? Im all for it. Rest in pain pdfile!
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Bye pedo
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i don't believe the narrative that the bandmates didn't know tbh
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I’ve read that Ian grew distant the further the band got along, even to the point of getting his own green room and transportation.
I sincerely doubt they knew the heinous shit he was doing. I mean there’s what, four other guys in the band? If they knew at least one of them would’ve spoken out about that. Maybe I still have a little too much faith in humanity.
Also I have no dog in this race, I’ve literally never heard a lostprophets song in my life.
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I guess I can finally listen to some of their stuff again. Not sure if it's worth it tho.
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Legit can’t believe it took this long
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"Does this mean Lostprophets can now find a new better singer? Im all for it."
They actually did that ages ago; No Devotion, with Geoff Rickly of Thursday.
It didn't take, really... commercially, even in good faith, the grubbiness of the association is hard to shake for most, I reckon...
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When people bang on about rehabilitation and long term imprisonment being uncessary refer them to this complete cunt of a sub-human who should have hung when convicted.
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Oh I think of myself as a prison abolitionist...but some people DO need to be removed from the general population.
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i don't see this guy rehabilitating and reincorporating into society at all
well, certainly not now lol
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“I’ve read that Ian grew distant the further the band got along, even to the point of getting his own green room and transportation.
I sincerely doubt they knew the heinous shit he was doing. I mean there’s what, four other guys in the band? If they knew at least one of them would’ve spoken out about that. Maybe I still have a little too much faith in humanity.
Also I have no dog in this race, I’ve literally never heard a lostprophets song in my life”
Their bassist did an interview with Sappenin Podcast back in 2019 going into a lot of it. Ian had a lot of drug addiction issues and missed their Warped Tour slot just before everything came to light which resulted in their bassist full on punching him in the face repeatedly. None of them knew anything that was happening.
Thankfully Geoff Rickley helped those guys get a second chance.
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i mean they knew he kept taking teenage fans into his private room
i don't think they knew the extent, but they knew something was up
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"Why are people so aggressive in the comment box? Is everybody deranged these days? Might want to turn off the internet if you can’t rise above the tribal mindset."
you...you're kidding me, right?
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Sounds like he was already pretty disliked before anything heinous came out. His bandmates apparently called the cops to report he was smuggling drugs between cities on tour. Sounds like they were already sick of his shit.
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"When people bang on about rehabilitation and long term imprisonment being uncessary refer them to this complete cunt of a sub-human who should have hung when convicted."
Seems really dumb to dismiss the broader fact that rehabilitation and not wanting to have to imprison people for basically forever is an important goal because of a hyper extreme case like this. Very childlike logic.
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and here we go
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I mean... this one speaks for itself
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Ya, the goal of prison should be rehabilitation first and foremost… but then there’s people like Mr. Watkins that have done something so despicable that keeping him imprisoned is more for the safety of the public.
I said it in the other thread, and I know I’ll get shit on for it here too, but I’m against the death penalty, I’m against prisoners being executed in any way. I’m not gonna spend a second of time even trying to muster up any sympathy for this scumbag, but it’s still something that ideally just shouldn’t happen.
Should’ve been locked up with the key thrown away. Live out the rest of his days in a cell. I’m not gonna allow one extreme case of cruelty change my position on killing people that are already in prison. I mean, Derek Chauvin got shanked and I was against it when that happened too despite the horrible shit he did.
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it's actually ok to imprison murderers and child rapists forever
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I agree. With celebrating his death we're just like the medieval mob drooling upon a freshly severed head that's put on display. He was convicted, he should have rotted in prison for many decades, that's the punishment he deserved. I also can't support death penalty by any means.
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29 years in prison is a worse fate than death. If you really want the guy to suffer for what he did, you wouldn't support this
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"So you're cool with people raping babies? Got it."
Nope. I just found out about this man, but all of you are celebrating death and murder and it's embarrassing. A true "apes together strong" moment in sputnikmusic history.
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lol
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“it's actually ok to imprison murderers and child rapists forever”
futures, my man, I literally agreed with that, you’re putting words in my mouth. I’m saying that there are people beyond rehabilitation, and yes those people should be locked away for the sake of society at large.
Still shouldn’t be put to death.
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was more aimed at others and in general brother
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you guys think it’s too late to make a proper reply button for sput
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'Found out about this via the UK Simpsons meme group on FB. Someone posted a meme of Homer Simpson looking up at the stars with Ian “H” Watkins from Steps face over the moon. I had no clue who he was but looking at the comments revealed everything to me, and I instantly had to check if it was true'
https://youtu.be/_nlJgA_xWU8?si=Zen4-u2atVSzxzvO
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Standing on the rooftops everybody stab his guts ouuuuut
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Generally I think prisons shouldn't be insane places of torment and death and human rights abuses, but at the same time, fuck Ian Watkins, rest in piss.
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Sucks for the band that made great music and it’s all gone because of one member
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In no way am I jumping for joy re this but I'm also not upset in the slightest.
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the description 'convicted paedophile' is bad enough but the utter depravity this guy stooped to makes other paedophiles look like saints. when you spend a lot of time on the internet you become desensitized to astonishingly vile shit but what he did actually shook me to my core.
i feel opposed to vigilante justice in general but the world can rest easier knowing he's no longer alive and however much he suffered wasn't even remotely comparable to what he did.
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"In no way am I jumping for joy re this but I'm also not upset in the slightest."
same..that is pretty much how I feel too. rotten human, and karma came to collect. is what it was
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Happy to hear it! Good riddance
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I hope the knife is okay
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Prince Andrew has offered tributes to this evil cunt
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ian watkins on epstein's island confirmed?
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Thoughts and prayers to his victims.
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alamo Alive in His House
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"Does this mean Lostprophets can now find a new better singer? Im all for it. Rest in pain pdfile!
"
Why bother when No Devotion exists and is 10x better?
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Rot in hell bitch
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"Nope. I just found out about this man, but all of you are celebrating death and murder and it's embarrassing. A true "apes together strong" moment in sputnikmusic history."
Boy, you often have non-stop shit takes on this site and you keep outdoing yourself. Congrats! Imagine being upset that people are happy that one of the most vile people to ever exist was removed from earth. He was still trying to groom children in jail through fans and was still selling drugs too. The guy was disgusting!
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if your death makes the world a significantly better place, maybe you should've considered not doing the things you did when you were alive
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"Does this mean Lostprophets can now find a new better singer? "
They did. Geoff Rickley of Thursday.
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I celebrate when something happens that I believe makes the world becomes a better place, and sometimes that involves death. This meant there's no chance of his release, so he cant' do anymore harm, and the state isn't having to pay huge amounts to keep his worthless ass alive.
Unless you subscribe to some rigid religious shit 'thou shalt not kill' (besides homosexuals and idolaters and disobedient children etc) I don't see why you should make it some moral prohibition
Being weary of the state putting people down is a valid concern, but in extreme cases like this where it's cut and dry culpability in the most heinous crime that puts the perpetrator beyond any chance at rehabilitation, then I don't see the problem. But this wasn't a state execution it was a prison killing
If you're so concerned about humanely treating subhuman scumbags, wouldn't you prefer they were put to death quickly rather than suffering in isolation?
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Why are people so aggressive in the comment box?"
Found the NAMBLA member.
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Dehumanizing people is dangerous. It opens the door to abuse and arbitrary violence. Once you embrace it, the next step is bureaucratic violence and state or mob-driven atrocities. The question isn't whether he deserved it (he may have), the real problem is the mindset you're promoting.
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Bah! I stand by what I said. Guy deserved it.
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"Dehumanizing people is dangerous. It opens the door to abuse and arbitrary violence. Once you embrace it, the next step is bureaucratic violence and state or mob-driven atrocities. The question isn't whether he deserved it (he may have), the real problem is the mindset you're promoting."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
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Im pretty pro life and support not killing people, but let me make this clear anyone who hurts/SA's children is the lowest of lifeforms and they are vile. The fact Watkins took this vile act to a new extreme is even worse. Ian Watkins was a vile piece of shit and no one should shed tears for this creature
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He dehumanized people first. Treat others as you want to be treated. Talk shit, get hit. Blah blah blah your random moral posturing makes you sound like you have bad things on your hard drive.
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On the hard drive thing 27 terabytes is fucking insane
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"Dehumanizing people is dangerous. It opens the door to abuse and arbitrary violence. Once you embrace it, the next step is bureaucratic violence and state or mob-driven atrocities. The question isn't whether he deserved it (he may have), the real problem is the mindset you're promoting."
He waived his humanity when he chose to act like a repugnant animal (actually his behavior is quintessentially human since animals aren't so sick and perverted). In lesser crimes we should obviously humanize and dignify the perpetrators to assist with their rehabilitation but there has tr to be a line in the sand.
And this isn't a matter of stooping to his level... kindness to the cruel often just results in cruelty to the kind, it's Karl popper's paradox of tolerance principle.
I'm not trying to legalize street justice or even death penalty, but that doesn't mean you can't feel some satisfaction when hearing that a heartless predator has been killed in prison
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He was a cunt, but Baseline is right... not going to mourn the guy, but not going to celebrate his death either.
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Crystal Meth and a depraved mind with access to fawning fans is the stuff of nightmares.
Should have hung.
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My exact reaction to this when my wife told me was "yeah, well I'm not surprised" - I didn't find any satisfaction in it, but I'm also not about to make excuses for such a detestable person. Considering the public nature of his conviction it's hardly surprising he met his end in this way.
Then again, if there was any (even a 1%) chance he could've actually been freed in the future, then I could be persuaded to alter this stance, as public protection should of course be the #1 priority.
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yeah same. I abhor violence of any kind and I won't celebrate his death. He should have rot in his cell until the end.
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Prisons need massive reform, I don't think the death penalty should exist, ideally stuff like this wouldn't be happening, and I oppose vigilantism (mostly, there are some exceptions). But I do find some satisfaction in this. I don't think it was wrong for people to feel satisfaction over Hitler's death. I think it's fine to feel that way when evil people die.
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Dude’s gone gone yay, no one can be hurt
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Guys who snuffed him were a murderer who killed the wrong kid, and a rapist, and it was most likely motivated by drug debt not morals, I'm surprised they let them mingle at Wakefield considering almost everyone there is doing serious time for serious crime, maybe it's logistically impossible to separate and stagger them all
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Also if any of you guys want to be sickened, look up Luis Garavito and Pedro Lopez... perhaps the most prolific serial killers of all time, they raped and murdered over 100 young people each and were only sentenced to 15 years since that was the maximum sentence in Colombia... one of them got out a year early for good behavior. Then he went missing. In cases like those where justice has not been served, and there is a serious threat posed to society, I think vigilantism is not just defensible but desirable
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Yeah, I've also recently read about those Colombian killers, it sounds insane what they managed to do without getting caught. I don't support death penalty myself, except in extreme cases like those. Killing them would only spare the world from them offending again.
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I read about both of them when I was watching Mindhunter it got me into wanting to hear about other serial killers the show never touched upon and I was sickened by how disgusting those two were. Luis Garavito in particular for the absolute brutality of his murders. Andrei Chikatilo is another one that is beyond fucked in the head too! His brutality made me sick in the stomach
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Took em long enough
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@fearthyevil yeah reading about Chikatilo... so grim how it says he initially tried to resist the urges and would often fly into a rage when he couldn't get aroused, and discovered that he could only get off to murder. At that point they need to be locked in a cage for life or put down like a sick dog. I can't believe the max sentence was 15 years - is that because they never expected prisoners to survive that long? Who possibly thought that was a just system that protected the public?
My grandad was a psychiatrist and had the lawyer for a violent psychotic patient telling him that he isn't allowed to keep them involuntarily, so my grandad threatened to send the patient to his office and the lawyer apparently changed his heart immediately. I guess it's easy to pass the sentence when you don't need to swing the sword or risk getting blood on you or however it goes
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Rest in piss.
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I too wish Ian Wantkids would have suffered for longer but nonetheless it's good that he's dead
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all officers, detectives and the police department who ignored, gaslighted and sued the person who came with evidence deserves the same fate
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Rest in piss [2]
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Insert Lucas Lieva 'unluckeeee' meme here
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"...maybe it's logistically impossible to separate and stagger them all"
yeah, I imagine that's the case. Prisons are over-stuffed as it is. You can't place the most dangerous criminals with those who're in for non-violent or 'lesser' offences like idk petty theft, tax evasion, fraud etc.
The cynic in me says that it's also 'beneficial' to the system as a whole to let this happen. It would help alleviate some of the burden on the justice system and eliminate any lasting threat these criminals may pose in the future. Putting them together in close proximity will inevitably result in casualties and lessen the impact on the public. And of course the less dangerous criminals who can potentially be rehabilitated aren't put at risk. 'Win-win'
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bye lmao. Dude probably ran his mouth to the wrong guy and found out the consequences. It's God's job to show mercy, not mine.
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So much for the tolerant left! Look at all the incited violence in this thread.
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Thoughts and prayers to his victims. [2]
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"bye lmao. Dude probably ran his mouth to the wrong guy and found out the consequences. It's God's job to show mercy, not mine."
Word is that he was paying for protection, payment lapsed, and the dude he was paying for protection teamed up with another dude to kill him.
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"So much for the tolerant left! Look at all the incited violence in this thread."
once again, regarding the person that was involved it's beyond justified
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He was just a singer!!!
(I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell)
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oh lol, my bad
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rest in shit and piss bozo
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couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
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rip d'angelo
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Base only shows up in these kinds of threads these days
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yeah. been like that for a long time tho
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Wtf does any of this have to do with political persuasion?
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dude fucked a baby
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skele definitely killed himself after seeing this
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Is skele at Wakefield
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@chemicalmarriage yeah last I heard there were sightings of Skele hanging around with mysterious men in the alley behind The New Union after hours
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I'm glad hes doing well
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Any footage of him in agony screaming hysterically would have been the icing on the cake... actually no ! it would be the cake itself.
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> Word is that he was paying for protection, payment lapsed, and the dude he was paying for protection teamed up with another dude to kill him.
win stupid prizes
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I'm annoyed because I love Last Train Home and haven't listened to it since the news broke in 2012 but I saw an IG reel last night of a movie clip of a dude getting shanked to hell in prison while that song played. Now it's stuck in my head and I can't listen to it to scratch the itch.
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Been thinking about this a lot the past few days. Was he always a sick and twisted piece of s*** or did something in his wiring change to make him that way. It's weird seeing old videos of this band, he just seemed like a normal vocalist just doing his thing. I can't even begin to imagine what was going through his mind to commit those atrocious crimes. It's both terrifying and eye opening that someone who appears relatively normal, is capable of being a monster. You just never know what's going on in people's heads.
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"I can't even begin to imagine what was going through his mind to commit those atrocious crimes."
Psychopathy, narcissism and a modicum of Rockstar success.
Incredibly bad combination.
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last train home does rock man. at least i associate it in my mind with the goated video game nfl street instead.
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lmao KILL is back for the kill
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Last Train Home is one of my favorite songs of all time. I used to see the music video every day back when I was 10 and I don’t think I could’ve ever imagined the dude on TV would get murked in prison for some of the worst crimes I’ve ever seen.
Anyway, rest in piss. There’s no justice that can ever be served to someone like that, neck opened like a can of biscuits or not.
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I remember hearing just pieces of some of the shit he did/attempted and being absolutely repulsed. Dude was absolutely fucked in the head super hard. It is curious thinking about if some people are just born that way or if something changes in their mind from the way they are brought up/socialized to be that fucked up.
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imagine being the guy who protected him in jail for like 10+ years. lol
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Might as well take his money too. It was only a matter of time
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lmao people being upset over this piece of shit being stabbed, good fucking riddance wished it happen sooner lol
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Would recommend people don't read the court documents re this vile cunt. The children's mother just as bad. I'm not in any way religious but if there is a heaven and hell, I hope he's being tortured in hell right now.
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Every community has to have its local dunce. You don't need to support murder, the death penalty, violence at all, to be glad the world is rid of Ian Watkins. You also don't need to be a parent, but as a parent: good riddance, nothing of value lost, the world is a tiny bit brighter. Get off your silly high horse and have a beer with the people, this is a celebration.
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every time i see this headline it makes me smile
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Have an open casket and let the community come and defecate at their leisure. Free espresso will be served
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To me it’s crazy how the Ian Watkins scandal felt so small since it came right after Jimmy Savile. I don’t know if Savile had anything to do with police finally acting on the endless accusations that were made against him.
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^ I'm very sure in my memory that it never "felt small" at the time; it was big news and the sheer horrifying extent of his deviancy resonated far beyond the music sphere. He was being talked about by people who wouldn't have a clue what a "lostprophet" was under normal circumstances.
But yeah, it is true that Savile opened the eyes of most of the population, in terms of how those in a position of clout can get away with all sorts of disgusting fuckery. Weinstein and MeToo made it global a few years later.
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"It is curious thinking about if some people are just born that way or if something changes in their mind from the way they are brought up/socialized to be that fucked up."
from what i've heard & remember, traumatic brain injuries thorough ur life and harsh abuse as a kid/toddler are correlated to it, but plenty show signs that they are like that before kindergarden
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"Now it's stuck in my head and I can't listen to it to scratch the itch."
Why? Watkins can't benefit from you listening to his music anymore. Listen away.
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^ Without saying what should be done one way or another: It's worth bearing in mind that the increased interest in Lostprophets over this last week ("guilt-free" streams, morbid curiosity, etc.), is pushing the algorithm of whatever platforms.
With enough of that, you'd potentially see Watkins' pedo mug top the charts/give them way greater success than even their prior-allegation standing (undeniably gross scenario, but even worse for those who might have been personally affected by his actions).
Something to consider, I reckon. Again, not an issue for me as I always thought the band fucking sucked anyway.
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Yeah go ahead enjoy your baby fucker music
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Probably because I don't want to hear the voice of somebody as evil as Ian Watkins. I will not be listening away. How you could enjoy his voice without picturing what he was doing is beyond me, but you do you.
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Sail the seas if you want to listen to this crap band. No company should benefit monetarily from this chode's music.
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not even judging cuz im barely upright right now but the guy was doing... all that stuff, having cp on his every electronic device, etc etc, and till his death he was completely unapologetic. After finding out about that, does anyone genuinely find it hard to believe that people would struggle to enjoy his music? Like, does anyone genuinely think others are just pretending to not enjoy it, or trying hard to not enojy it? lol
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funny thing is that i have not felt compelled one bit to listen to their music, before or after he died is all the same to me, man has ruined everything about them, not even nostalgia can wash away the stain of the shit he did; if he was like a bassist or something maybe but he was the fucking lead singer, miss me with that shit.
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^exactly this. Guitarist, drummer, etc is easier to swallow arguably because it's an instrument being played while the singer is his entire voice, the main frontman of the entire group and often the most recognized part of every band and at times their identity. Watkins was the forefront and center vocal point literally of the band so his image will forever taint the music for fans and anyone questioning that is strange to me. It's like Brand New for me, it's really hard for me to ever listen to them again, granted Lacey's acts were nowhere near as deplorable as this but he's still a genuine creep.
I really just thank god that I never was into Lostprophets at all. Glad the other members at least found some solace in No Devotion although the commercial success is obviously not even remotely close to the levels they had prior.
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That's a lot of words to explain not listening to a guy that fucked infants.
I DONT LISTEN TO HIM BECAUSE HE FUCKED INFANTS, and because his band sucks a bag of dicks.
A whole god damn bag of them
Clear. Concise. Professional.
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If I'm hating someone then I'm most of the time hating their entire legacy... This could also mean I don't really hate some of those murders and psychopaths who burned down villages and churches cuz I'm able to separate art from the artist there. I know guilty of being selective
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"That's a lot of words to explain not listening to a guy that fucked infants.
I DONT LISTEN TO HIM BECAUSE HE FUCKED INFANTS, and because his band sucks a bag of dicks"
yeh but some mfs seem like they wanna be cute and need to have a dissertation about this shit, when it really is plain and simple as
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can we pour one out for the dummies that got any lostprophets tattoos
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I got my Ian Watkins tattoo because I was a big fan of his. I had NO CLUE he made shitty music!!
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https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-funny-cotton-gif-14926560
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"I got my Ian Watkins tattoo because I was a big fan of his. I had NO CLUE he made shitty music!!"
That wasn't a tattoo, that was a smooch from the devil.
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Now THIS is the rare exception where I would totally look down on someone for separating the art from the artist. I’m generally able to, but I guess fucking babies, animal rape etc is my line in the sand. And so it has been drawn.
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i just saw browsing the online websites that somebody held a knife at p diddy's neck in prison, chat is this real?
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"With enough of that, you'd potentially see Watkins' pedo mug top the charts/give them way greater success than even their prior-allegation standing (undeniably gross scenario, but even worse for those who might have been personally affected by his actions)"
Most, if not all, of the association with his pedo mug is joy at the fact that he kicked the bucket. And any success and money at this point goes to the other guys in the band and to to Watkins' estate who the victims can sue to claim damages.
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The one news article that might actually make it to the top of most discussed news stories even after this site was put in the ICU and this is the year ozzy died.
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The more I learn about this Watkins guy, the less I care for him
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(The victims were babies, and the parents are in jail for being complicit)
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