Sleigh Bells sue Demi Lovato

2016-09-24 by Stormy Smiley Face | 34 Comments
Songwriter Derek Miller (former Poison the Well) and singer Alexis Krauss of Sleigh Bells are apparently going through what many musicians fear. They believe solo artist Demi Lovato, singer of hits such as "Confident" and "Stone Cold", has stolen their song "Infinity Guitars" and used parts of it to create "Stars". Sleigh Bells believe so strongly their song was stolen the band has now filed a lawsuit.

An excerpt from the court documents as follows:

“Demi Lovato, and the label and team she worked with to create ‘Stars,’ did not obtain authorization from Sleigh Bells to use any part or portion of ‘Infinity Guitars,” "Indeed, they failed to even notify Sleigh Bells that they intended to exploit Sleigh Bells material to create a Demi Lovato song."

If you listen to both songs you can see the similarities, but it will ultimately be up to the courts to decide the final judgement.

Infinity Guitars (2010)



Stars (2015)



Source of court documents: http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/sleigh_bells_sue_demi_lovato_say_she_stole_their_m usic

Tagged: Sleigh Bells

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Asdfp277
September 24th 2016
24275 Comments


it sounds like demi's writers used a sample tbh

Snake.
September 24th 2016
25249 Comments


pretty sure sleigh bells is doing this just to make themselves relevant again

DoofusWainwright
September 24th 2016
19991 Comments


Infinity Guitars is 1000 times better and that should really be enough...but then again this song is terrible and derivative so what the hell sue the tramp

Snide
September 24th 2016
7050 Comments


At least this lawsuit isn't over a pair of mantits.
As for the songs, it sounds pretty similar but I think we'd need to take an actual look at the composition itself to check tbh.

MarsKid
Emeritus
September 24th 2016
21030 Comments


Seems somewhat similar, but it's an awful coincidence that Sleigh Bells has an album coming out soon and their last efforts haven't been critical darlings.

Though to be fair that song is shit and I'd sue just based on that principle.

Snide
September 24th 2016
7050 Comments


No, suing someone because of a lack of quality is a scummy thing to do. It hinders free speech and freedom of expression.

MarsKid
Emeritus
September 24th 2016
21030 Comments


I'm joking you know.

DoofusWainwright
September 24th 2016
19991 Comments


I'm also joking

The drum track does sound VERY similar to the Sleigh Bells tune, that seemed the biggest similarity

Sevengill
September 24th 2016
11968 Comments


Demi's team definitely were jamming Infinity Guitars when they wrote it, but I doubt Sleigh Bells will win this.

LepreCon
September 24th 2016
5481 Comments


There's only so many notes in music, can't really hear outright plagiarism. But that's from one listen, I don't want to listen to a Demi Lovato song ever again.

Cygnatti
September 24th 2016
36021 Comments


yeah they sound pretty similar
bitchy trashy pop is life tho. surprisingly impressed with sleigh bells for that song.

ConcubinaryCode
September 24th 2016
7541 Comments


Saying there's only so many notes in music is like saying there's only so many combinations a pack of cards could be organized into.

Sevengill
September 24th 2016
11968 Comments


or so many patterns in art. don't forget color, shape, texture (see related: timbre, accent, rhythm...)

laughingman22
September 24th 2016
2838 Comments


Sounds pretty similar but the real question is do the boys in funkadelic get royalties for the song rill rill

wwf
September 24th 2016
7198 Comments


it does sound a whole lot like the drums are an uncredited sample.

Flugmorph
September 24th 2016
34000 Comments


infinite guitars is a pretty annoying song tbh

Storm In A Teacup
September 24th 2016
45692 Comments


I listened to each song three times while I wrote the write-up and even though I personally think they have a good case with the extra noises alongside the drum track, it could go either way.

LotusFlower
September 24th 2016
12000 Comments


80% of Demi's new album sounded like they sampled the hell out of other artist's songs so this isnt a surprise.

DoofusWainwright
September 24th 2016
19991 Comments


That first Sleigh Bells in hindsight was close to a genre classic and huuuuuuuugely influential

Storm In A Teacup
September 24th 2016
45692 Comments


indeed even if it wasn't great songwriting it influenced its genre kind of like Static-X influenced its genre. and the fucking sounds and vocals of Sleigh Bells are just awesome despite not really leading anywhere a lot of the time.

DoofusWainwright
September 24th 2016
19991 Comments


Well does most punk music go anywhere really? That's the sort of fair comparison you have to make with a band like SB

Also like most punk bands they said everything they needed to on their raw debut

bloc
September 24th 2016
70008 Comments


Sleigh Bells bitch just stepped out of a classic Ferrari in the video and she still needs money??

Futures
September 24th 2016
10420 Comments


ex poison the well huh there's something i didn't know

Storm In A Teacup
September 24th 2016
45692 Comments


"Well does most punk music go anywhere really? That's the sort of fair comparison you have to make with a band like SB"

very debatable with you likely winning lol. that's why I tried mentioning amazing sounds and vocals right afterward because I like Sleigh Bells and don't want to talk bad on them.

DoofusWainwright
September 24th 2016
19991 Comments


Storm I got that you like them, their songwriting style grew on me over time - for years I thought that was a 2.5-3 sorta album but slowly slowly slowly it has gone up in my estimations and now it's on a 4.5 and a top 200 album for me (which is still a big surprise)

Storm In A Teacup
September 24th 2016
45692 Comments


yeah that is surprising. idk if I could put the debut in my top 200 but it's certainly possible. I'd say if I made a top 200 songs list then I'd put at least one sleigh bells song on that list.

Dolving999
September 25th 2016
1853 Comments


"ex poison the well huh there's something i didn't know"

Right? Out of nowhere!

Not enough to warrant my interest though. Put an old-school breakdown or two in there and then we can talk.

Storm In A Teacup
September 25th 2016
45692 Comments


um lol what if there are

BeneaththeDarkOcean
September 25th 2016
687 Comments


Storm, are you saying there's an unexpected breakdown we should all be aware of in a Sleigh Bells song? Cause if so, hook a brotha up

Sauce
September 25th 2016
930 Comments


i don't know how these things are handled legally but i feel like it's not entirely beyond coincidence that they could've written the same/similar beat. it's three different clap pitches and one lower bass drum-y sound. maybe i'm naive but i just can't believe that a hugely popular artist would expect to get away with intentionally sampling someone else. i guess it does happen kinda often. i just think that maybe courts should be more lenient with percussion sounds since there's less room for creative exploration, at least when it comes to pop music.

TheGreatQ
September 25th 2016
3003 Comments


it does sound a whole lot like the drums are an uncredited sample. [2]

Masochist
September 25th 2016
9167 Comments


That's definitely Sleigh Bells's exact drum track being used in Demi's song. The tone of the hand claps give it away. I'm therefore in the "uncredited sample" camp.

Storm In A Teacup
September 25th 2016
45692 Comments


sleigh bells being better does not equal out to adding breakdowns

gryndstone
September 26th 2016
2729 Comments


good

will probably be fruitless, but pop stars should always be called out on bs like this



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