As I Lay Dying Hate Metalcore 2007-06-01 by NeverFading14 | 42 Comments | As I Lay Dying, along with Killswitch Engage and Unearth, have been at the forefront of metalcore for the last five years. But according to frontman Tim Lambesis, the band's forthcoming LP An Ocean Between Us was largely influenced by what he perceives is the deterioration of the genre, reports MTV.com.
Before they began writing material for the disc late last year, the San Diego metallers "spent some time listening to our last album [2005's Shadows Are Security] and, just from being on tour, we became a little bit jaded by how the genre — as a whole — has sort of copied itself over and over again," he explained. "We decided we wanted to be more diverse, even down to the point where we sort of felt like we should really focus on writing songs in different categories, and then pick the best songs from those categories and use them for the record."
Produced by Killswitch guitarist Adam Dutkiewicz (Every Time I Die, All That Remains), the album — which hits stores August 21 and features backing vocals from members of Destroy the Runner — will include a dozen tracks, including "Separation," "Within Destruction" and the likely first single, "Nothing Left." Lambesis said listeners will find that each song differs from the next, with some cuts bordering on chaotic and foreboding, others more driven by melody, and a couple that are just straight-up, balls-to-the-wall thrashy.
"On the tempo side of things, we wanted the record to be pretty fast as a whole, so we wrote some real thrash-influenced songs," he said. "We even wrote songs that have a more emotional depth to them — songs that aren't just pound-your-face-in all the time."
Most metal acts pride themselves on releasing consistently heavier records, and An Ocean Between Us is indeed the heaviest As I Lay Dying LP to date. But what makes Lambesis proud of the album is that he thinks it's the band's most memorable one to date. "It's definitely our fastest record," he added.
Lambesis said it was important for As I Lay Dying to work with Dutkiewicz on An Ocean Between Us because "it was good to have that outside perspective." The band had finished pre-production on the record well before Dutkiewicz journeyed out to California, to the singer's home studio.
"We really went out of our way to have the record completely recorded and done before Adam even got here, so when he did, it would be the right time for that fresh perspective," Lambesis said. "He has great ears, and even if he ended up going with one of the original ideas we had from pre-production, it was confirming that it was his set of ears that gave it the thumbs up."
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Ugh, I hate both.
Metalcore has to be the worst genre since Nu Metal.This Message Edited On 06.01.07
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just straight-up, balls-to-the-wall thrashy
Didn't Trivium make this claim as well? So now all the metalcore bands are going to turn into Metallica clones? New genre: Metallicacore.
| | | Well, at least they realized it.
I doubt that they'll capitalize on it at all though.
| | | Oh the irony!
| | | I'm actually very happy to hear this. Metalcore is going down the tubes imo, so some diversity is going to be good.
| | | it's just a bunch of dudes claiming they're different. this genre is so stale now it's disgusting.
| | | hopefully theyre not completely taking triviums path cuz i really like as i lay dying and i liked their sound. im looking forward to this and hoping the diversity isnt too cheesy (meaning the thrash parts arent crappy)
| | | hmm, AILD were one of the original metalcore bands. Theyll probably end up NWOAHM like Chimaira and Shadows Fall. Hopefully.
| | | I'm actually looking forward to this release more now. As I lay Dying was a pretty goodmetalcore band (generic, but one of the best and only metalcore bands i enjoyed) but it would be interesting to here something more diverse, as most of the songs were extremely similar on their records. Hopefully this will be a change for the better.
| | | Perhaps they'll write a song that's not in C minor on this record.
*crosses fingers*
| | | Cool. I might actually buy this. Hopefully it won't suck.
| | | To the guy who said AILD is original metalcore, you just lied to yourself.
AILD is alright, I'll checkout this album regardless.
| | | Truth is, some metalcore is excellent stuff. Unearth and KsE are the cream of American metalcore.
| | | In general i think there's a general difference between the fusion of hardcore and metal and "metalcore". I never saw any "metal" or "core" to 18 visions for example. However, I see AILD as the enemy as well. TBH bands that have element of hardcore and metal tend to be best when they have elements of other things, such as The Dillinger Escape Plan or Between The Buried and Me.
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TBH bands that have element of hardcore and metal tend to be best when they have elements of other things, such as The Dillinger Escape Plan or Between The Buried and Me.
tr00f
| | | they still are worse then most metalcore one way or the other.
| | | no there better than alot of this bring me the horizon,devil wears prada crap
| | | Thrashy? Come on!
| | | Finally somebody recognizes that metalcore is boring and repetative. And at least they are willing to change it. But it will probably end up sounding the same anyways, so who cares. I might want to check this out though, just to see what all this "thrash" talk is about.
| | | And Symphony X hates progressive, Nightwish hates symphonic metal, and Trivium hates Metallica.
Oh, I don't know if any of you knew this but, Tupac hated hip-hop.
| | | I like how everybody knows this band sucks and everything they aspire to do is probably bogus hahah. Best metalcore is Misery Signals.
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Perhaps they'll write a song that's not in C minor on this record. None of their last album was in C Minor...
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What?
| | | AILD is not original metalcore.
Some bands that can call themselves early and good metal core are acts like Botch, 7A7A, Converge, old Cave In, Harvest, Sons of Abraham, Racetraitor.
| | | th3y just can't handle t3h br43kdowns.
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| | | Hmm, If these guys actually did go thrash, and added some clean vocals and chorus'. I could see them being great, I mean their riffs aren't that bad
| | | Oh and I labled it "As I lay dying hates metalcore' Because nothing else would fit.
| | | you could label it as "As I Lay Dying hates today's metalcore scene" or "As I Lay Dying is trying to distance themselves from the crowd" or something like that =p
but hey, that new stuff may actually be good. let's w8 and see. diversity is always good
| | | mm, I'll be interested to hear this, I think this band (bar 94 hours) are a bit stale too but at least they seem to be trying to change things, could be very hit or miss xo
| | | apparently the metalcore scene thinks Metallica is cool again
| | | Yeah, this band is probably gonna turn out to be just another batch of Metallica clones like Trivium--or to a lesser extent-- Shadows Fall. Ugh. I for one am very VERY skeptical about this.
| | | POUND-YOUR-FACE-IN
| | | Basically if they just changed the vocals to like..Pantera style, and added some structure in the song. I could see them actually being a half-way respectable band. They just fail at metalcore. The guy can't scream at all, he sounds like my cat when it's angry.
| | | Oh and Nighthunter, I mean it wouldn't fit because there wasn't enough space lawl
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None of their last album was in C Minor...
Last I remember seeing, all but 1 or 2 songs were in C minor. And I believe that goes for Frail Words Collapse, also.
Please point out which songs aren't.
I do have to give them credit for writing 2 album's worth of material using (almost) only the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 8th frets, on (almost) only 3 strings though.This Message Edited On 06.03.07This Message Edited On 06.03.07
| | | originally metalcore wasnt boring and repetative. acts like botch, earth crisis, zao, and converge were very original and innovative. its these shitty bands like as i lay dying, trivium, etc. that are fucking up the whole genre.
| | | who ever decided that heaviness was in and of itself a good thing, anyway?
| | | Am I the only one who likes metalcore and thinks its pretty sick?
No? Just me then?
Right, I'll just go sit in the corner by myself then.....
| | | Yeah, they should add some better clean vocals, and doing stuff that isn't in C minor would help.
Hey, even Cryptopsy want clean vocals now.
| | | Meh, some metalcore isn't bad. Unearth, 36 Crazyfists and Converge are excellent, but save for As I Lay Dying, the rest bore the hell out of me.
| | | these guys freakin suck. They want to be like Trvium now. They'll fail.
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