in which he tore up a bible and denounced the Christian church as a murderous cult... and did not mean to offend religious groups

Poor book. R.I.P.

Someone going to prison for breaking the law? First time I've heard this before.

"did not mean to offend religious groups"

well why would they be offended?
and doesn't he do that at EVERY concert?

Hahaha, "did not mean to offend religious groups." That's funny.

vampolka 123
I'm going to eat a steak and claim it shouldn't offend PETA

Fuck, I knew that Poland was going to try and take him down.

did not mean to offend religious groups.

isnt it? wtf

well why would they be offended?
and doesn't he do that at EVERY concert?

that's exactly what I was thinking

Pretty retarded thing to do image-wise, but seeing as that's all this was, people shouldn't put too much stock into what he says about one faith or another. I'm sure his influences isn't that far reaching.

merely part of his artistic work and that he did not mean to offend religious groups.

Owned. Behemoth sucks.

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LOL NERGAL'S HEAD

This is ridiculous. If his lawyers cannot find counterarguments for such an idiotic accusation, they must be some really mediocre lawyers.

saw this a week or so ago.

thought about posting it.

then got lazy.

celebs can't go to jail

accusations are for stuff that hasn't been proven yet.
he did it. he admitted it. now he's gotta face the consequences, as stupid as this is

Jesus goddamn motherfucking christ. I fucking hate the Catholic Church.

well...... they kind of are a murderous cult

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NERGALS HEAD

stfu mappy

separation of church and skate

This is retarded.

@pit
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I think accusation is a charge of wrongdoing that can be either true or false. In this case, he is obviously guilty. He could look for protection under some international human rights, though.

damn

lol.

this makes me want to burn a church down in protest

^Right behind you

Pwnt. Funny how he pussies up when faced with jailtime.

metalhead friend loves this band

what is it with poland and starting shit

Can't Poland just get another Bible?

If you read the article in the link, there's a quote:

"Behemoth has officially been charged with insulting the Roman Catholic Church"

I actually lol'd at this. The Church got its feelings hurt. I say there should be an apology on the part of Lord Nergal, and he should show the good gesture of sharing his Lunchable Pizza with the Church and giving them his favorite Hot Wheels.

fucking bullshit. This is why i cant stand organised religion.

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Well I'd be more outraged at the Polish government than the Catholic Church.

lol, im glad he's getting called out for all those gimmicky anti-Christian images this band tries so fucking hard to portray. calling one of the largest religions in the world a "murderous cult" is not only a false stereotype to be sending to young, moronic/impressionable 15 year olds, it's also every bit as indoctrinating as the very religion he seeks to condemn. and it's hardly artistic expression when you're blatantly attacking an entire religion. if someone burned a hebrew bible on stage, waved a swastika flag and tried to justify it as artistic expression, they would get laughed out of court. but it's just so much easier to pick on Christianity so this will probably end up being a nice publicity move for the band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG33H8xHngM

This is all I have to say to you Duderino

Good job Poland.
But his image must be pretty bad if he needs to do things like this.

'Can't Poland just get another Bible?'

I lol'd. But seriously, screw that guy.

nergal is a wierd name

>>calling one of the largest religions in the world a "murderous cult" is not only a false stereotype to be sending to young, moronic/impressionable 15 year olds, it's also every bit as indoctrinating as the very religion he seeks to condemn.

LOL!!!!! Have you read any history?

As if dating a famous Dating pop star wasn't metal enough, here's this.

Catholic Church got it's feelings hurt, so what? Even if that was offensive to some, the man doesn't deserve two years behind bars, he didn't fucking kill anyone.

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if he did this 400 years ago i would totally agree with him but naming them a murderous cult now is over exaggerating.

jailed for ripping a bible 3 years ago?

Yeah. It's kinda like if someone stole a $20 from me 3 years ago and I just found out I was missing it and I just found out who stole it. ARREST HIM!

nooooooooo

why black metal sucks

i thought he already went to trial for this and it got overturned

this is p stupid

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LOL HIS HEAD LOOK AT HIS HEAD

NERGAL

fucking bullshit. This is why i cant stand organised religion

This will not please the chancellor of Germany one bit...

Well, if he broke the law, he broke the law. From what I understand, he does this at almost every show and confessed, so it's not exactly a question of guilt. I agree it's a fucked law, but that's not exactly the question now is it.

And lol at this part:

Nergal claims it was merely part of his artistic work and that he did not mean to offend religious groups.

this is good stuff. i think he should go to jail, get brutally raped by large black men 3 times a day.

that way when he get's out, he'll go back to black metal.

My girlfriend's from Poland and she says that a lot of the populace are very very religious, but we both agree this is ridiculous

Weird how this kind of thing is against the law and warrants prison time, but I'm not really a fan of Behemoth so whatever.

The art of bible tearing is the most grim kind of art in the land.

"Pwnt. Funny how he pussies up when faced with jailtime."

Lol....

considering poland is one of the most devoutly catholic countries in the world, i'm not surprised

bloozclooz why you hatin lmao

man i'm hungry. better go get some of dem demon burgers.

but yeah, i'm hoping jail time will push him towards blacker material again. especially if he' in minimum security, cause they'll let him have personal stuffz

why black metal sucks

The Catholic Pedo-Priests are the ones who should be raped in prison, not Nergal. I don't there will be much raping going on, Poland is a pretty tame country if this story doesn't prove that.

I used to like Behemoth, Zos Kia Kultus was one of my favorite DM albums in highschool. I don't really find any of their stuff that great now, their black metal albums don't hold my attention at all.

dude hell yeah Zos Kia Kultus. pretty much agree with your 2nd paragraph there

fucking bullshit. This is why i cant stand organised religion

Poland's looking for blood after Black Mass Krakow.

They spell recognize with an s overseas, Enrico.





Dummy.

@Enrico

Organised is not misspelled, that is how the word is written in British English.

But Z's are manlyz.

I remember seeing this video three years back, so this is sort of a throwback. Polish culture is very much based around religion, but I still can't find any justification for jailing him for two years.

lol black metal is filled to the brim with attention whores.

satellite just hit it on the nose. it's all about looking bad ass and scaring people.

that's why i prefer death metal, for the most part, they don't give a dang about image.

Organised is not misspelled, that is how the word is written in British English.

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Lleyton Hewitt

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Nergal

NERGAL

look an expert on pollock law

chan ftw

I'm a Christian and even I think this is going overboard. I may not like what he did but we live in a country where he has the freedom to do stuff like that.

Ahem:

Organized*

Thank you and good night.

The inmates will love a new friend who comes with his own make up.

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NOICE, I love that movie hahahahaha^^^^

lol, im glad he's getting called out for all those gimmicky anti-Christian images this band tries so fucking hard to portray. calling one of the largest religions in the world a "murderous cult" is not only a false stereotype to be sending to young, moronic/impressionable 15 year olds, it's also every bit as indoctrinating as the very religion he seeks to condemn. and it's hardly artistic expression when you're blatantly attacking an entire religion. if someone burned a hebrew bible on stage, waved a swastika flag and tried to justify it as artistic expression, they would get laughed out of court. but it's just so much easier to pick on Christianity so this will probably end up being a nice publicity move for the band

High-five!

Ahem:

Blockhead

Thank you and good night.

lmao aaron

Hahaha Poland is such a joke.

I'm going to play a play a white-metal gig and rip apart a copy of LaVey's work.

Oooooh, how controversial...

Just make sure it's well organized*

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When I lived in Krakow, it was one of the first things you noticed. Well the city in particular is more art oriented, but there was a ton of religious art. My grandmother and mother are from there too (raised there, then moved to U.S) and there are a lot of...touchy people. Can get in trouble for a lot of religious related offenses; especially if you're relatively well known in a particular region..

Nergal: "Hey guys, lets go to one of the most religious countries in the world and rip bibles in front of hundreds of people! That'll be like, 0 witnesses!"

Band: "erhhummm have fun in jail pzzzz"

To all the people who claim that "we have separation of church and state". Poland =/= the United States dumbasses.

o kay

So basically he might be going to jail for upsetting some people? BAWWWWWWWW, looks like Poland is butthurt.

Can I say it once again?

BLACK METAL SUCKS!!!!

hey guys

NERGAL

well...... they kind of are a murderous cult

Who knew Nergal was such a bitch?

To some extent the Christian Church is a murderous cult, or at least promotes hate and violence. Obviously, in the case of most first-world countries the power of the Christian Church is repressed; this situation, however, does not imply they are unable to advertise their most severe doctrines in third-world countries. For example, last year in Uganda an anti-homosexuality bill was presented to the parliament. According to the bill, "aggravated homosexuality" should be punished with death sentence, and life imprisonment is the minimum penalty for anyone convicted of having gay sex.

"[W]ithin Uganda deeply-rooted homophobia, aided by a US-linked evangelical campaign alleging that gay men are trying to "recruit" schoolchildren, and that homosexuality is a habit that can be "cured", has ensured widespread public support for the bill." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/uganda-death-sentence-gay-sex

aggravated homosexuality?

"i'm so angry! let's do it in the bum!" - quoted from an annoyed homo

According to bill,

According to the bill*

Yeah, I know.

Pretty sure "aggravated homosexuality" = man rape.

A book made by illiterate sheepherders that was translated many times. I hate religion.

^I didn't know illiterate people could write books, i learn something new here every day

Anyone else see the name Nergal and think of the boss from Fire Emblem?
...they look kinda similar too.

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LOL LOOK AT HIS HEAD

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NERGAL

In his natural habitat.

Damn that is one hot girlfriend he's got there.

such a pimp

Nigguh g'on brush ya shoulder off

witch is that how you get your comments up? Just spamming the same thing? We get it he gots a big head so what, get over it.

demonbooger= nergal

haha can't believe I missed this, so many faggots

religious people = illogical people. illogical people = no common sense. no common sense = stupid. therefore, religious people = stupid

Atheism is a lot more illogical then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a
lot more stuff.

Atheism is a lot more illogical then religion at this point dude unless science can start
explaining a lot more stuff.

Can I say it once again?

BLACK METAL SUCKS!!!!

Atheism is a lot more illgocial then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a lot more stuff.

Atheism is a lot more illgocial then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a lot more stuff.

Let this fucking thread dieeeeee

he says while bumping it

Twas already bumped, good sir.

oh then nvm : )

NERGAL!

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LOL LOOK AT HIS HEAD!

Religion... Stupid fuckin concept but it gives people hope...I guess. Personally I find it illogical and pointless but that is because I was not brought up with these roots installed in me. Nergal, being brought up catholic in Poland should have realised that religious groups get offended and pissed off by everything. Sigh....

Shut the fuck up and laugh at Nergal's head with the rest of us.

Dunno if Behemoth were going to release anything in the next few years but this sucks, won't tours be cancelled then if Nergal goes down?

NERGAL

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Atheism is a lot more illogical then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a
lot more stuff.

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THREAD NEEDS MORE LOL HIS HEAD

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LOL HIS HEAD

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LOL NERGAL'S HEAD

Hahaha, "did not mean to offend religious groups." That's funny.

calling one of the largest religions in the world a "murderous cult" is not only a false stereotype to be sending to young, moronic/impressionable 15 year olds, it's also every bit as indoctrinating as the very religion he seeks to condemn.

Atheism is a lot more illogical then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a
lot more stuff.

I'm familiar with the term, I just totally spaced on using it. Certainly would've saved me the time it took me to type all of that.

organized religion takes A LOT of things way too seriously...

"Nergal claims it was merely part of his artistic work and that he did not mean to offend religious groups."

Fucking pussy. If you're going to do something, do it right. Dont' half-ass it. Of course he meant to offend religious groups - until they decided to have bigger balls than him. Frankly, I would've sided with him until that sheep-eyed apology. Hopefully he'll get shanked in prison. Although, the way these things seem to go, it's more likely he'll just release a (more) shitty comeback album once he's released.


"^I didn't know illiterate people could write books, i learn something new here every day"

oh LOL


"I understand what he means. He meant the performance and the act of ripping the bible to be seen by fans attending the concert. It was for their entertainment only and not meant to be said directly to the church. Although I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem doing that either.

There's no reason to get offended over what happens at a concert that doesn't hurt you."

O RLY? So even though you believe in something, you shouldn't take it seriously? You should allow other people to trample over what you love?

As for the "not wanting to say it directly to the church" - give me a fucking break. There's no point in theatrics if all you're going to do with them is preach to the goddamn choir. He wanted to be a bad boy but he got caught and now he can't handle the heat, or even stick up for himself, or stay true to his own motivations. He's a child. Fuck him.

Nergal won that case and sued the guy who started it for calling him (Nergal) a criminal. The justification was if you don't like to see the Bible being torn, you don't buy a ticket and go to Behemoth gig. Kinda logical, huh? BTW that guy who sued Nergal for offending his and other Catholics' religious feelings seems to be a total nut. He said that no one joined his claim (like nobody felt offended except him) because other Catholics are too afraid of Nergal's satanic powers to go to court.

And insulting the Roman Catholic Church isn't a crime in Poland. Crime is purposedly offending citizens' religious feelings and someone have to sue for it personally.

Fucking pussy. If you're going to do something, do it right.

As for the "not wanting to say it directly to the church" - give me a fucking break.

There's no point in theatrics if all you're going to do with them is preach to the goddamn choir.

"Atheism is a lot more illogical then religion at this point dude unless science can start explaining a
lot more stuff."

I think science tries to explain that carbon-based organic matter can't go for 3 days decaying in a damp cave and then regenerate...

In other news, Nergal should share a prison cell with Varg Vikernes, am I right?

GWAR? They're a joke band, and putatively at that. The fact you're trying to use them to illustrate how doing something without a point behind it isn't pointless(lol) goes to show you're a simpleton. In addition to the fact you claim to not have said something you very clearly did. Theatrics without a point = entertainment, enterainment = pointless.

Apology: "I didn't mean to offend anyone!" If you're going to tear a sacred text in two, it's pretty clear you have no interest in the respect and admiration of people who hold that text to be sacred. Doing that and then turning around and pretending all you want to do is get along with everyone is either disingenuous or (worse) spineless. Nergal is obviously an enormous faggot. In fact, he probably did this just so he WOULD get sent to jail, thus getting all the free buttsex he could ever want.

[quote]In other news, Nergal should share a prison cell with Varg Vikernes, am I right?[/quoute]

in other news, Varg was released a few months ago

"in other news, Varg was released a few months ago"

I DO NOT CARE THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN

In addition to the fact you claim to not have said something you very clearly did.

It was for their entertainment only and not meant to be said directly to the church.

As for the "not wanting to say it directly to the church" - give me a fucking break.

Apology: "I didn't mean to offend anyone!"
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Nergal has stated that tearing apart the Bible was part of his artistic work and was not meant to offend religious sensibilities.

Doing that and then turning around and pretending all you want to do is get along with everyone is either disingenuous or (worse) spineless.

If they send Nergal to jail for this I think I might cry. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

I didn't mean to do that = I didn't want to do that. You're becoming very tiring - I shouldn't have to explain basic English to someone with internet access. There is no difference, and the reason you "don't know what else to say to me" is because you HAVE nothing else to say. Such is the curse of idiocy.

I didn't mean for my actions to be offensive = I wish I hadn't offended = I AM SORRYZ. Also, like I already pointed out to you, but you may have been too thick to notice(or understand) - you don't tear a Bible apart without meaning to be offensive. Fuck your "directly". Blasphemy is intentionally offensive, ALWAYS. That's why it's blasphemous. He just cried like a bitch because someone decided to stand up for themselves, and as a result he should look into the Final Solution post-haste.


"That's quite a leap to assert that."

Do you have a learning disability? There's no leap in asserting there is cowardice in performing an intentionally offensive act, then following it by saying that you weren't trying to be offensive. You can't have your cake and eat it too - but something tells me you're one of those folks who doesn't understand that saying anyway.

I didn't mean to do that = I didn't want to do that.
I didn't mean for my actions to be offensive = I wish I hadn't offended = I AM SORRYZ.

There's no leap in asserting there is cowardice in performing an intentionally offensive act, then following it by saying that you weren't trying to be offensive.

He just cried like a bitch because someone decided to stand up for themselves

What I learned from this article: Poland is a shitty country that hates free speech and is wrought with shitty xenophobes, shitty faith-based laws, and shitty attention-seeking metal bands.

"Blasphemy also isn't intentionally offensive."

hahahahahahahhahhahahahaha, oh wow...

What I learned from this article: Poland is a shitty country that hates free speech and is wrought with shitty xenophobes, shitty faith-based laws, and shitty attention-seeking metal bands.

I see Sputnik LOVES reviving old news articles for Internet debates in which no wins and all sides appear retarded.

"Blasphemy also isn't intentionally offensive."

hahahahahahahhahhahahahaha, oh wow...

blasphemy - blasphemous behavior; the act of depriving something of its sacred character; "desecration of the Holy Sabbath"

Oh, I don't have to bend you. Blue is red! 2+2=5! Words can mean whatever the hell we want them to mean!

Well for arguments sake you have to have consistency when assigning definitions to words and even if they are intangible.
As for math "2+2=5" I realize you used words, but math is a form of logic and can't mean whatever the hell we want it to mean.
As for your reply as a whole, it completely conflicts with all of your previous posts where you insisted that blasphemy was always intentional.
So if words can mean what ever we want them to mean then, you enjoy performing fellatio with your band mates in front of hundreds of people.


By fellatio I mean an arrangement of sounds in time.

Get 'em Poland!

I didn't realize there was such a thing as a person who couldn't recognize blatant sarcasm.

Hahahaha good one...{/sarcasm}

I didn't realize someone could be unaware that sarcasm is difficult to detect in written form without emphasis such as vocal tone.

wow, lol at all these arguments

blasphemy is teh sirius businesses guyz