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RVAHC13 08.29.26	I’ve never smoked myself but I think it’s funny all my friends who are regularly ripping bongs/dabs/vapes are among some of the most high strung people I know. They tell me it’s the only thing that calms them down but they don’t realize that going too long without smoking is what is making them irritable now. Best of luck trying to quit again, hope it sticks this time. Remember, your mind works for you, not the other way around.
JayEnder 08.29.26	I can relate to this so hard man. Been trying to quit for this exact reason, but much like yourself I fall back into it as soon as I feel bored like the weed is somehow going to "enhance" my music listening experience or my investment in a TV show/movie. And something about this modern weed is way too strong, I can't be the only one who thinks so. Weed used to give me the giggles and munchies now I'm on the verge of a full fledged panic attack after one or two hits. I find it makes me content with doing absolutely nothing and that's just about the worst thing for someone's growth as a person, both creatively and professionally. Hope you can find the strength to quit for good, its hard but ultimately I think its for the best to get your life back on track.
combustion07 08.29.26	I used to smoke an obnoxious amount of weed. I got lucky though and took too much acid and after that day every time I smoke I have a nightmarish time so I was cured via momentarily breaking my brain lol. Hope it sticks man. I think with smoking you eventually get to a point where it isn’t really helping with much of anything you originally thought it was. It’s the same with hard drugs. At a certain point it just becomes your baseline and rather than doing it to get some benefit you’re just blowing your money to feel “normal”
Intothepit 08.29.26	I gave it up for nearly 10 years, and life was fantastic. Unfortunately insomnia in the last 2 has come rip roaring back, and I'm not taking a gummy just to go to sleep. It is what it is, and I haven't felt the need to really take it outside of that, but I get it, man. 100%
jrlikestodance 08.29.26	Man this is so real as someone who has smoked regularly from ages 15-34 and my longest break being like 3 months. I'm also in the boat that going cold turkey is prob not an option. It's too ingrained in my life and I find I personally get more benefit from it than not. Of course some will call that addiction, but I feel I have more "control" than I did when I was younger. I'm at the point where I only smoke after I've completed my tasks such as work/homework/chores. It's not perfect and sometimes I slip up but I'm happy with my relationship w the plant and I'm where I want to be in life right now. Always here if you wanna talk about this stuff at length cuz I have a lot of complicated thoughts on this subject.
budgie 08.29.26	good luck quitting again homie i think one of the more motivating i've across is "imagine yourself in 10 years w & w/o sobriety" kinda scares you into action
Brabiz 08.29.26	I started for the first time recently, and man… yeah. It’s fucking debilitating. Best of luck, I hope you stay off it.
AlkemestRedux 08.29.26	Rooting for you buddy, I know you can do it. Addiction sucks ass. I have an addictive personality and finally was able to kick nicotine last October after a decade smoking and almost another decade on nicotine pouches. Sending good thoughts your way man.
pyroflare77 08.29.26	Hey, you did it once, you can do it again.
arthropod 08.29.26	Good l- you know what, fuck the luck. I wish you strong will instead. Glad you're at the point in your life when you can identify the addiction, people be blind on the first try (regardless of the fix) [including myself] {no, I don't take substances} and some never snap out of it. You did it once, you can do it again [2].
Kusangii 08.29.26	Weed ruined my life so yea it fucking stinks
Brabiz 08.29.26	I was hooked on cocaine last year, and I think that was preferable to being brain dead and shackled to this shit. It’s just a means to throw time in the garbage. 100% addictive and negative, regardless of what everyone says. I hate it. Fuuuuuck weed.
AlkemestRedux 08.29.26	Yee I used to smoke weed a lot at various times but my body has never really liked it. My first time I had a pretty embarrassing freak out at a crowded house party and ever since it's just given me mad anxiety unless I already have a tolerance. But even then I think it still gives me anxiety I'm just used to it lol Glad I don't smoke much anymore honestly. It can indeed be life derailing. The thing that almost wrecked my life though when I was younger was opiates. That shit also sucks.
combustion07 08.29.26	Agreed on opiates being the devil. Also agree on weed being stupid strong. I actually slowed down a ton on smoking before I quit because I felt like the high from smoking was strong enough that I wasn’t actually feeling the high from the heroin I was on lol
artificialbox 08.29.26	Appreciate the comments, I knew you guys would get it. Honestly what encouraged me to try to quit again was a conversation I had with an employee at my local dispensary. He told me he was sober and that the catalyst for him quitting was getting really stoned while his wife and child were asleep and just sitting in the dark alone feeling really paranoid and anxious and wondering why the fuck he kept smoking when all it did was make him feel like a piece of shit. I told him I could relate and had asked myself the same question so many times. Why do we keep going back to the things that hurt us? The question applies to drugs, relationships, and more. I know I can do this again, but the difficult part is being caught between wanting to quit and feeling like I "deserve" to smoke because of how hard I work or whatever other excuse I come up with. Honestly the first week or two is easy, but then your brain starts telling you that you "won" and now you "deserve" a treat. That's when it gets really hard for me. Having these types of conversations with people who understand really helps though.
AlkemestRedux 08.29.26	I feel that one. Even though I haven't smoked cigarettes in like eight years I'll still get the urge when I smell second hand smoke. It's kind of crazy actually but I just remind myself of all the awful stuff that comes along with it and tough it out. Exercise helps too. Kinda generic advice but it does wonders.
combustion07 08.29.26	Sometimes it’s easy to get comfortable with something that hurts you especially when it’s a routine/big part of your life. Deviating from that is difficult. Try to reward yourself with things that you actually get something out of. Sometimes you can hit a rut where nothing feels rewarding too and you’ve just got to power through those times. Also the whole idea of “playing the tape through” helps. Picture what everything is going to look like a year or 5 down the line. That’s helped me because I’ve been down the route enough that I know inevitably where it leads. Since you’ve quit before too you also do
budgie 08.30.26	"Even though I haven't smoked cigarettes in like eight years I'll still get the urge when I smell second hand smoke. dood i stopped smoking last year after like 15 years and i have absolutely zero cravings, how fucking weird is that. also have zero booze cravings after around a year as well after drinking pretty heavily for nearly the same amt of time. wonder if its like an epigenetic thing. but man whenever i smell rubbing alcohol i get a huge craving for you know what lmao
BAT 08.30.26	I smoked half my life starting at 13 and being daily at 15, I kinda lost the routine around the pandemic when my dad died and eventually it got legalized where I'm at annnnd all of it just makes me too paranoid to be able to relax and chill out. I honestly miss it but when reassessing my mental health: it made me predisposed for a lot of issues I'd have in my twenties, than you add alcoholism/depression/taking whatever I could find annnd yeah I was a miserable zombie for most of my twenties and I shoulda treated myself better. I'll smoke again but feel like most stoners I grew up with have an arc similar to either mine or yours. I don't think it's for everyone though and think people who hype it up as a miracle cure all are deluding themselves into escapism. But yeah I'm a lot less miserable, haven't had an anxiety attack in like 7 years. That said quitting drinking straightened out a lot of my issues, quitting weed was more like a "oh I didn't really care or need this to make me enjoy things."
WatchItExplode 08.30.26	That's why I walk in the shop and ask if they have Dad weed
WatchItExplode 08.30.26	I used to smoke daily through most of high school and college than somewhere in my late twenties. Asked myself what the hell I was doing. Made myself stop for a full month and it has never had the same control over me since. I love this list though. There is real risk and consequence to pot that people love to gloss over
BAT 08.30.26	I used to pick up for my brother cause his car was fucked and I'd get the cheapest, lowest THC weed I could. I have a stash from like 2 years of that for when I do get in the mood, but a random bonghit will have me feeling like im wasting my life. Oddly enough vapes and gummies don't effect me like that so I dabble in those on occasion. Cigs I've had like 4 this year, but I never got into the habit of chain-smoking packs I mostly just used them as filler for spliffs
smaugman 08.30.26	to me, it seems like the people who post these kind of things, are also the people who have addictive personalities. of course, if you smoke during the day, you are much more likely to get problems from it. I exclusively smoke a couple of hours before bed, when i would be chilling anyway.
WatchItExplode 08.30.26	It feels like the prevailing thought is that marijuana addiction is not a real addiction though. And yes, this pot is too strong. And yes, it's availability is affecting young unformed brains
WatchItExplode 08.30.26	I can only imagine how being able to rip a vape at school all day would have impacted me
BAT 08.30.26	@smaug most of my dads side was beatniks into smack/meth/etc and most of the men eventually drunk themselves to death. my moms side was more pill heavy, drug use wasn't really taboo in my youth because my parents had done exponentially worse lol. than add in my family being dysfunctional as fuck, their families likewise, several gens of generational trauma, list kinda goes on and on. by most diagnosis criteria i'm at a high risk for addiction among other things. just kinda try my best tbh, at the moment i'm mostly sober/stable buuut all the body neglect of my 20s is catching up to me in my 30s.
Futures 08.30.26	definitely depends on how you're using it. if you are doing it everyday and especially waking up and getting high you have an obvious problem. and i do think a lot of issues people have with weed is that it's often being used as some form of escapism from life and depression. of course you are going to develop some negative connections between the two. but i also agree that it's far from a harmless drug. it does zap your feeling to move forward or do anything. i just take a 5mg gummy every night as a sleep aid and to wind down. that does the trick for me. all it does is make me tired and space out. never felt the need to do more or do it during the day. guess i'm lucky in that respect.
Emim 08.30.26	"It feels like the prevailing thought is that marijuana addiction is not a real addiction though." The pendulum definitely swung too far back the other way once it got legalized. Absolutely crazy hearing like 10-12 year olds talking about how they need to quit vaping
Eakflanderyof 08.30.26	I used to smoke a pretty large amount of weed but whenever ive quit ive never had any noticeable physical withdrawal. But it's very obviously addicting even if it's not like getting off something like heroin. But while i smoke now i never feel like i need it. I go days without having it quite often. Alcohol is the demon for me really
Pooter9000 08.30.26	Having heavy smokers as friends was the best anti-weed ad
Eakflanderyof 08.30.26	But for me personally the addiction to weed has never gone beyond just wanting to be high. But i guess i could say the same for alcohol. Ive never felt physically addicted. I just like numbing my neuroticism i think
NudeTayne 08.30.26	Let's all blame our problems on our self-induced substance dependency that we aren't equipped to control and not seek therapy woo wow wow wow 🎉🎉🎉
Storm In A Teacup 08.30.26	I stopped smoking weed in april and still havent, but i did get my medical marijuana business license and have a career now at a production factory and smell like weed all the time.
Confessed2005 08.30.26	Try being addicted to crack and heroin. I smoke weed a lot but the way I see it, if you are going to do it - you are the only one telling yourself whether to do it or not. A lot of the time I think it is just how you perceive it - there are a lot of negatives associated with drug use but there are also a lot of positives -otherwise people wouldn't do it, if you catch my drift.
renegadestrings 08.30.26	It blows my mind that people can smoke weed and drink, yet lead functional lives. I can feel the quality of my work slipping after just a beer. And smoking weed? May as well not let me manage anything for a half day at least. I guess what I’m saying is at least you’ve managed to stay alive and be a decent enough person to at least find a partner despite your addiction. Others (like myself) woulda been dead in a ditch long ago. Btw don’t do this whole “trying to quit, might succeed might fail” thing. Begin with the end in mind and just fucking do it. You’re trying because you know success is not only possible but probable. And if you need a new vice to help manage the transition; a morning routine of freshly ground coffee beans or steeped loose leaf tea will take you far. Godspeed
budgie 08.30.26	"but a random bonghit will have me feeling like im wasting my life. fucking dude i get this so hard. it's like the second i'm high until the second it wears off i'm forced to think about all the problems in my life and just cannot relax at all, it's oppressive. wasn't always like that, in highschool could relax and enjoy a film or go surf or skate whaver. but like one day when when i was 18 or 19 some switch flipped and it's been like that ever since. all the issues just beam nonstop into my head like giant neon lights. fkn traumatizing
zakalwe 08.30.26	Came back from the states in June. Couldn’t believe the open hard drug use in San Francisco. The mental health that is everywhere in California. Drugs are the absolute pits.
bighubbabuddha 08.30.26	Agreed Zak, drugs are terrible. There's nothing wrong with being sober, in fact it's an optimal state
Voivod 08.30.26	It all comes down to the content of THC. A joint in the '50s barely contained 1.5%, whereas 21st century products go up to 20%, which combined with the unrestricted use in the States, is simply unbelievable and criminally insane….. That said, no one needs even the 1.5% stuff, stay clean guys. Two recent texts that I found interesting on the matter: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/09/city-drug-addiction-harm-reduction-policy/687967/ https://www.wired.com/story/brain-focused-ultrasound/
bighubbabuddha 08.30.26	Some weed THC levels actually go up to 30% these days it's ridiculous and causes psychosis in at risk individuals. The best course for health and happiness is abstinence
Voivod 08.30.26	^^Even worse, these companies should be held accountable at some point. @artificialbox and everyone You should check the Wired link, it talks about a neurosurgeon that cures addiction with ultrasound.
smaugman 08.30.26	«Drugs are terrible» Because all drugs are equally worse, lol…
bach 08.30.26	I've done coke milder and more mellow than most dispensary sativas I've smoked
Sharenge 08.30.26	bruh I got this Formula Z shit that's marked on the label as "Cannabinoids 31.76%" and look at me I'm fine!!
hel9000 08.30.26	Very few things more overrated than weed. Wish I could moderate it but I've learned I can't. It's fun for ten minutes then everything is about keeping that high going which is obviously fruitless. Daytime use is fucked too, feeling burnt out at 2 pm fucking sucks, just going in and out of sleep on the couch, nothing holds your interest and the day feels wasted. The final straw for me was finally realising that it wasn't getting "high" anymore for me, it was getting paranoid, getting self-conscious, getting scared over stupid shit, and that all those thoughts and feelings actually bled over into my sober brain too.
RVAHC13 08.30.26	“ wasn't always like that, in highschool could relax and enjoy a film or go surf or skate whaver. but like one day when when i was 18 or 19 some switch flipped and it's been like that ever since.” Getting older takes the fun out of a lot of things, that’s why I don’t play video games anymore really.
Gfunk839 08.30.26	Lol budgie, I've only smoked weed around 10 times, same exact experience for me most time, just endless waves of fears and paranoias popping up in my head. Awful. Not a good feeling. Made it very easy to swear off it for life though.
EyesWideShut 08.30.26	"Try being addicted to crack and heroin" To quote a line from Half Baked "You ever suck some dick for marijuana?"
kodama 08.30.26	I've had an issue in the past, thankfully it was just smoking every day at home and only lasted a few months. I've smoked a few times since a long break and hopefully can manage it better now. If I fall into the habit again I'll just need to stop having it at home period. I count myself lucky since I never tried it before my 20s. I wish you the best. Kicking something that gives you comfort is not easy, and I understand the short fuse thing that crops up. You're in a much easier position now than the first time you quit. It'll be a shorter window for it to stop sucking. Having a passion like you do helps. Agendapost: Even with all the problems that weed has, I'll take it over alcohol. Weed addiction makes you just kinda "worse", alcohol makes you an active danger to yourself and others. I'm probably biased considering my father was an alcoholic, but yeah I hate that shit.
Kusangii 08.30.26	Drugs fucking sucks ass agreed guys. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise is living in denial or haven't experienced the worst part about it. Truly wish I never abused weed and "only" sticked to alcohol since I could balance that healthily. Smoking weed was a recipe for depression and anxiety for me. Part of it was also my environment but still. Weed was also an import drug to MDMA for me and that shit ruined me in ways I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy. Utter nightmare.
rabidfish 08.30.26	never experienced addiction nor really bad trips nor anything like that, judt getting high felt less and less good over time. Not wanting to do anything except lie down on a couch eating and listening to music is good once in a while, not every fucking day. almost 3 years off drugs now.
BAT 08.30.26	I feel like the carts stats are deceptive cause a basic bowl of 17% bud will hit me way harder than like 4 moderate puffs of a vape. Oils/hash/shatter will fuck you up though, hell I know people who've dabbed themselves into developing CHS. Keep weed basic And yeah budg its like the main thing road blocking me from picking it back up, I do feel like if I made an effort to build up my tolerance I'd probably be able to chill out again: buuut conceptually intentionally developing and growing a drug habit is kind of a weird effort lol. Unlike others I didn't really have many negative experiences when I was on it, and I was waking up taking gravity bong hits for like ten years straight: buuut yeah eventually it just becomes routine rather than a experience. I will say even if it doesn't fuck with your behavior eventually you'll fall into the cycle of wanting to be high to enjoy anything, annnd that's just kind of a escapist falsehood.
budgie 08.30.26	"Weed was also an import drug to MDMA for me and that shit ruined me in ways I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy. man i did a lot of e in my late teens and have always wondered how much that fucked me. can't ever know for sure but sometimes i feel like a lot of the larger decisions i've made in life since have been like, motivated by a subconscious desperation to find and feel that magic again, could have totally wonderful girlfriend and live in a cool area but it doesn't stack up to being 19 again and sitting on a cliff in carlsbad with your best friends and girl at 11pm looking at the ocean all rolling hard so i lose interest and walk away hoping there's something better waiting for me
Kusangii 08.30.26	That sounds like a lovely time tbh. MDMA is amazing in the right circumstances and company. So at least you had that. I only did it mainly by myself and with a buddy that was the biggest drug addict oat, who sadly is dead now exactly because of that. We had good times too but it ended absolutely horribly between us. But yeah, I'm pretty it has given me permanent damage from abusing that shit. It's a fucking nightmare and I'm not sure if I'll be the same. Have lost so many years because of the health issues. Absolutely horrendous stuff.
budgie 08.30.26	that fuckin sucks dude i'm sorry for your friend. one of mine in that same group died of liver disease at 32. i don't know the whole story because i kinda dropped out of contact with that group when i left for europe, but i would assume it was related to all the partying. gutwrenching to think about how unfair it is for him while the rest of us are just bumbling along like stupid little idiots
Kusangii 08.30.26	Well that's what drugs will do to you eventually if you don't respect it. Some people just don't have a limit and I would guess your friend was one of those just like mine. I remember thinking one time that if he didn't get his shit together he would die of an overdose one day and that's exactly what happened. He was also an autistic sociopath so that didn't make it easier for him. It's sad to say but it was all on him really. Had so many chances to turn things around but always made terrible choices.
combustion07 08.30.26	Majority of my friends have passed from od’s. Only person I’m close with that is still alive just got out of prison like a month ago. He’s on parole with a 6 year back up. He hit me up talking about how fucked off prison was. A few weeks ago he hit me up asking if I could hook him up with one of my old dealers. Definitely going back. Drugs suck indeed. I’m also not particularly against weed but if someone is saying they have a problem with it then they should probably stop. Some people can use shit in moderation others have that all or nothing mentality which really doesn’t end up well with any substance no matter how low harm it might seem
PizzaBear 08.30.26	My wife doesn't smoke and I've mostly stopped by because I don't like being high around people who aren't as well and luckily I never got into it to the point where that felt like a big price to pay That said though, she went off on a work contract for a little while and it seemed like it would be fun to get a bit of weed and listen to some music or watch an old show or whatever. It was kind of scary how quickly I slipped into just spending my evening smoking and zoning out while she was away, just like from nothing to almost every evening. Like someone said above, it just made doing nothing feel good and it was such an easy way to kill boredom but it provided nothing back really. I couldn't even watch a new show/movie because I'd wind up zoning out too easily and missing/forgetting a bunch of it. She got back and I dropped it as easily as I'd picked it up but it was eye opening to see just how easily that switch had flipped in the first place.
botb 08.30.26	I waited to start smoking until Covid and I still smoke basically every night. In moderation I think it’s much more sustainable with a healthy lifestyle than drinking
jrlikestodance 08.30.26	For me nights work best and I need to have my daily responsibilities done before the first smoke. I'll only break that rule if I have nothing going on or friends visiting on vacation
NudeTayne 08.30.26	[2] weed is a recreational drug and you need to be responsible if you're gonna do it, be a sober adult and do your big boy stuff and then smoke afterwards when you've taken care of your stuff. If you can't get through the day without smoking then you probably shouldn't smoke. Doing dabs and carts is wild as hell to me. BAT earlier said keep weed basic and I feel that so much. If you're health conscious and don't wanna damage your lungs, look into micro dosing edibles.
budgie 08.31.26	id imagine a glass of wine a day is a whole lot less harmful than a bowl a day, but that's assuming the person can be fine with only one glass
NudeTayne 08.31.26	Most French thing said ever probably
Eakflanderyof 08.31.26	https://youtu.be/XncTKjxnSHA?is=e82ESvHo-RJLc67r This thread just reminded me of this scene from extract with jason bateman getting bullied into smoking weed lmao
Sharenge 08.31.26	never imagined I'd see the day where sput came for my weed
budgie 08.31.26	@kusangii personally man i can't vibe with that karmic take, seems like a coping mechanism to not contend with grief or something? really just seems all like shitty luck, i was the worst partyer of us all, dabbled in degeneracy most of my friends never touched, od'd twice! on H, somehow my shitty asshole self is still alive, he was a genuinely good guy who liked rabbits n shit. only the good die young, only evil lives forever yada yada
budgie 08.31.26	"Most French thing said ever probably for super clarification i'm talking about smoking smoking, not just using weed. if it's edibles vs. alcohol ofc ill say edibles are less harmful. but inhaling any kind of smoke is horrible esp habitually what w lung cancer and other pulmonary diseases
combustion07 08.31.26	Sharenge you better burn all that weed rn or I’m fuckin comin over
RVAHC13 08.31.26	how bout u make me stop sucking exhaust out my cars tail pipe go on make me
combustion07 08.31.26	points finger GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY
RVAHC13 08.31.26	mmmfpmfmmpfffpmfff
combustion07 08.31.26	Imma hero
Spec 08.31.26	Weed is terrific for my insomniac ass. Never any negative effects from it. Opiates however turn me into a cock.
Futures 08.31.26	yeah it's such a good sleep aid. all i need is 5 mg. perfect. combine it with melatonin and magnesium and it just straight up knocks me out. any insomniacs out there give that a shot. it's a pleasant feeling, i just space out and sink into my bed watching some bullshit on youtube or jamming music. very relaxing for me.
zakalwe 08.31.26	Yeah there will be no long term implications with that whatsoever. Come on man.
smaugman 08.31.26	to the people in this thread who have had bad experiences with weed, how old were you when you started smoking?
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Smegman you deny the risks at your peril
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Physical health risks: increased risks of lung cancer, bronchitis, heart disease. potentially strokes for those with cardiovascular disease Mental health risks: increased risks of psychosis and schizophrenia, also can induce paranoia and anxiety while high. Driving risks: driving while under the influence of cannabiscan increase the risk of accidents, injury and death. Funding organised crime: even in countries where cannabis is legal organised crime benefits from selling the drug. Particularly in counties where cannabis is illegal organised crime is allowed to flourish causing great harm to citizens.
BAT 08.31.26	physical : not much studies here ever proved anything, the majority of those listed are standard risks with smoking anything/inhaling smoke pollution. if you want to get real though pets/children eating concentrates is potentially fatal. pretty much the only recorded human deaths are in the vein of careless parents leaving their shit out for the baby. mental : it doesn't really 'cause' either of those, but can exacerbate problems with people who have both. paranoia and anxiety is common though but once again more at a risk for people already with an anxiety disorder. when i was having panic attacks i was on a handful of things daily and my living situation was pure stress. i'd say taking random russian nootropics had more of an effect around that time. driving : i feel like stoners do kinda let this one slide where there is definitely risk factors, i wouldn't let someone face their first blunt and ask them to drive. funding crime: it's been getting legalized and grown through official routes buuut i feel like the pharmaceutical industry already has a link with organized crime regardless of weed. it's definitely profited off of but it's a blip compared to like the fentanyl trade. but yeah it affects everyone differently, pretty much all those negatives go hand in hand with any drug. most of my social circle now is people who weren't stoners, my general advice to them is that if they're fine with how their life is there's not much point to gravitate to it. although i'm probably more likely to take a shot of whiskey on a whim, i'd advocate weed over alcohol anyday. that doesn't make it harmless thoo
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Bat you are so wrong, cannabis is known as a direct risk for developing psychosis, especially if smoked as a teenager or with high THC. The science is unequivocal
BAT 08.31.26	Pretty much every story/personal account I've read claims it triggers psychosis, not rewired a fully grown brain in one hit. A study linking the two isn't indisputable truth though, like I said everyone's different and has their own predisposed conditions. Personally I see the "it turned me schitzo" with acid, but weed is also a psychoactive drug so yeah. There's more depth in the topics of psychosis and schizophrenia themselves, often coming out of no where with age. Weed is a risk factor for those people, theyre not particularly predictable conditions.
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Yes. Cannabis can both: Cause temporary psychotic symptoms during intoxication—paranoia, hallucinations, or losing touch with reality. Increase the likelihood of developing a longer-lasting psychotic disorder, including schizophrenia, particularly in susceptible people. Risk appears to rise with: Starting young, especially before about age 16. Daily or near-daily use. Higher THC concentration. A personal or family history of psychosis, schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder. Previous cannabis-related paranoia or hallucinations. A meta-analysis found adolescent use was associated with about a 71% higher relative risk of later psychosis—not a 71% chance of developing it. A large 2026 cohort similarly found roughly twice the rate of new psychotic disorders among adolescents reporting cannabis use, although observational research cannot remove every possible confounding factor. Adolescent meta-analysis⁠�, 2026 cohort study⁠� THC at 20–30% is high potency. In a major European study, “high potency” was only ≥10% THC. Compared with never-users, daily cannabis use was associated with 3.2 times the odds of psychotic disorder, rising to 4.8 times with daily high-potency use. These are group-level odds, not an individual prediction. EU-GEI study⁠� A 2025 systematic review also found high-concentration THC products were consistently associated with worse psychosis-related outcomes, while noting limitations in study quality. Systematic review⁠� Here is the science, it's really interesting
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	I asked GPT Sol Max 5.6 which is a pretty powerful AI model and summarised well
BAT 08.31.26	Yeah I agree with most of that info and im still comfortable summing it up the way I have. With any drug people should do their research, but when it comes to any drug science is still far from definitively quantifying every aspect. It's more of a problem with people predisposed to a risk rather than one puff will drive you crazy. Smoking excessive amounts constantly becomes a risk factor, but "normal" recreational use doesn't have like acid casualties, people who've od'd and had brain damage from lack of oxygen, etc. alcohol induced psychosis is much more common in criminology/health services.
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	I've never framed it as one puff. I'm talking about teenage use, very frequent use and high potency use all increasing the risk of developing psychosis. And that's just not true, my sister is a psychiatrist who sees way more cannabis induced psychosis compared to alcohol induced psychosis (which is really rare and you are just talking out your ass lmao)
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Cannabis can modulate dopamine in a very different way in the brain which leads to delusions (fixed beliefs that do not change) and hallucinations (auditory like police sirens and voices are most common) the brain is really complex
BAT 08.31.26	cannabis is getting more common now with the advances in growing, it wasn't really a problem until the past ten years. as i've previously stated earlier in the thread : yeah concentrates will fuck you up. taking anything in excessive amounts will fuck you up, downing any random bottle of medicine/supplements will fuck you up: there's a different between using something and using something to poison yourself. my disagreement is mainly 'they cause psychosis' rather than 'they elevate the risk psychosis,' you're framing it like it's a commonality when i'm calling it a under researched risk. i agree with you like 80% and my disagreements mainly come down to linguistics/framing and correlation. and you're right about 'cannabis more common' but i honestly haven't researched it since before we had like dabs as a mainstream thing, stuff changes as i've said we're kinda still learning/researching things. some papers/studies will come to a different conclusion than others despite covering a same area, really it's up to you how you treat that information annd i'm just treating it the way i feel like.
zakalwe 08.31.26	I’m with you 100 percent hubba
NudeTayne 08.31.26	My advice is don't take any health advice from Sputnik, especially from someone who consults AI lmao
bighubbabuddha 08.31.26	Bat you don't know what you are talking about, stop trying to be an expert with anecdotal evidence . I've been framing it as a risk not a commonality. It's not under researched at all, there are like hundreds of meta-studies lmao, the science is unequivocal. Stoners and sceptics just refuse to understand the risks and will deny reality because they are closed minded and don't want their bubble burst
BAT 08.31.26	i honestly do feel like stoner culture has minimalized negative effects in the name of fun, but yeah my takes come from growing up with it/everyone around me using it/writing papers on it in college/etc. i wouldn't recommend taking my word as sacrosanct though, there's a risk of harm and one should evaluate themselves before going down that rabithole. if there's something i'd list as a negative in my life iss my smoking so young most likely had an effect on the development of my brain, but once again there's still decades of research to be done to figure out exactly what. the brain is like the most unpredictable category of health. and as i've previously stated : i'm comfy standing by my takes, it's just what i've done with the information provided to me and i think your ai result is fairly inline with my informal thoughts on a sputnik thread. never claimed to be an expert, i'm sure some pro-weed science major somewhere would be willing to debate your points. once again i just feel likee your talking black&white in a field that's technicolor. i don't think either of us are capable of knowing for sure, but we've heard different and that's fine **and for the record substance induced psychosis is a thing and weed is definitely an established agent, i'm not disagreeing there i just think there's more context at play with full on life changing mental disorders.
budgie 08.31.26	@smaugman, 13
budgie 08.31.26	@bat "i'd say taking random russian nootropics had more of an effect around that time." my man! i was taking stacks with shit like piracetam, pramiracetam, aniracetam etc for like a good decade before they became impossible to find
budgie 08.31.26	and yeah dude, ive always heard & believed that weed doesnt create psychosis but can surface extant trauma or whatever. but man my childhood was fine certainly had no traumatic experiences, and then one day after like 5 years of occasionally getting high with no issue that switch flipped and ever since then even a lil puff makes me feel like im in the trenches at verdun. maybe its like a congenital thing
Sharenge 08.31.26	maybe you are in the trenches at verdun
Kusangii 08.31.26	@budgie there was recently a case in Sweden where a man got a psychosis from weed and raped his daughter out of nowhere. Absolutely awful stuff. So yeah it can definitely happen but it's very rare and only if it's in your genetics. I've gotten so high sometimes that it has almost felt like it tbh ngl
Eakflanderyof 08.31.26	I could definitely see how it could give people psychotic episodes. I've never had that but i can definitely feel anxious/paranoid if i dont occupy my mind with something when im stoned
RunOfTheMill 08.31.26	Just posting in here to wish you luck in your recovery. You’ve done it before and you can do it again. Also fwiw I’ve heard that THC is addictive in many individuals, though not as common. It might just be that it for you, and that will make things harder. Haha at least that’s what the Kurzgesagt video taught me Take it easy on yourself, wish you the best.
Eakflanderyof 08.31.26	Yeah there is no one way weed effects people. It all depends on brain chemistry
RadioSuicide 08.31.26	Smoked weed all day everyday for well over a decade until I woke up 3 days in a row with panic attacks so bad that I would vomit heavily. I quit for 7 months and now have a much more stable relationship with it, largely just partaking after a long shift or when I’m out partying. It was, at least for me, a major hindrance to my self-development and ambition, and I certainly don’t think it’s for everyone
smaugman 08.31.26	Seems like many people who «turn against» weed are also the ones who smoke all day and letting it control their lives. And bubba im sure most smokers are well aware of the risks, and accept them, just like any other substance. @budge, that is really early. I started at 23 myself
botb 08.31.26	My advice is don't take any health advice from Sputnik, especially from someone who consults AI lmao [99999999]
artificialbox 08.31.26	I only ever smoked in the evening after work and only about 1/3rd of a joint, yet that still had noticeably detrimental effects on my life. Like Eakflanderyof said it all depends on brain chemistry. I am super happy for people who are able to maintain a healthy relationship with it that doesn’t intrude on their lives. I wish I could be like that. My brain has always been an extremely fragile ecosystem, even an hour of lost sleep can be the difference between me feeling on top of the world or straight up suicidal lol.
sonictheplumber 08.31.26	its this new corpo gen Z ass weed. dabs, carts, GMO 99% THC blueberry whatever the fuck. nobody was smoking the mexican brick weed we had in high school and sitting around thinking "im a loser! im pathetic! kill me aaaaa" i pretty much just keep weed around to end a night of drinking, if im not drinking i dont even want it. i think the last time i enjoyed JUST getting stoned was like, 2018
artificialbox 08.31.26	honestly I fuckin miss the days when picking up weed meant hopping in the back of some creepy old dude’s Honda Civic in a mall parking lot and getting a nondescript sandwich baggie of whatever he had in stock. no choices, just kush.
sonictheplumber 08.31.26	also i think part of why gen z cant get laid or leave the house is this shit making them even more neurotic. like you hear about "oh people are scared to be filmed in public and put on tiktok" and frankly that sounds like a thought you should only have if youve eaten too many gummies
smaugman 08.31.26	I never understood that. Who goes around being scared of being film? I dont think genz anxiety stems from that, but rather a lot of other factors like far less human face to face interaction
artificialbox 08.31.26	I think there is a valid conversation to be had about how living in this age of mass surveillance and call out culture is making people more hyper aware than ever before of how they are being perceived by the public, but if you’re scared of being filmed then idk, maybe you’re doing something you shouldn’t be.
jrlikestodance 08.31.26	I'm personally waiting to go viral from some TikToker filming me dancing weird at the rave
Josh D. 08.31.26	Never liked THC highs, just have a cocaine year and move on.
artificialbox 08.31.26	lol jr, that reminds me of this clip. legendary kid. https://youtu.be/_yRJsecDjjc?si=4w9xOC8J_8vS8rF5
jrlikestodance 08.31.26	Big dance music doesn't want you to know this, but thats what peak performance looks like
kodama 08.31.26	> Keep weed basic Yeah if you're gonna smoke just stick to flower. Concentrates are a easy way to building a bad habit.
budgie 08.31.26	@smaugman, perso it was always just a weekend warrior party thing for me, i never smoked daily even when it was enjoyable. wasnt like obsessed with it like a lot of stereotypical california stoners i think my pet theory is before i was 18/19 while there were things i worried about it wasnt that big of a deal, being a kid you are not responsible for so much and its easier to put off worrying for future you. but once an adult, all the sudden you have a lot of agency so all the worrying becomes more urgent, impossible to trick yourself into putting it off. it's like... if you're watching a horror movie, guy running from the alien or whatever idk, it's kinda stressful as a viewer but you're not in control. if you're playing a horror game, you're in control of the guy running from the alien and there's a whole new level of panic because you have the agency right
budgie 08.31.26	@articial bro i am so fucking happy i dont have to bother with those sketchy adventures anymore. was pulled over and had a baggie of coke IN one of the slots of my wallet that i had to take out to show him my license. FUCKING not chill lmao
ConcubinaryCode 08.31.26	I remember after I lost my jobs and friends I crashed hard into the weed when I had to move back in with my friend. It got old by about year 2 and I didnt stop until year 6. It didnt help that my partner smoked and we didnt function best when we were high together. We've since split but now she's halfway to her bachelor's and im still working a minimum wage job. Weed really does kill you on the inside and ive had to lose even more friends because we all smoked. I stopped taking my Adderall because my pcd says weed causes schizophrenia (which is partly true but he was also a Mormon freak so I think he was just pushing people to conform to what he wanted) and I just stopped doing anything short of going to shows. I do like music a lot more now that ive stopped smoking though so theres always positives to quitting. Keep it up because im sure so many are going through what you are and you are better off not smoking.
ConcubinaryCode 08.31.26	Also yeah stay away from thc pens, dabs, carts. the high is headache inducing and just destroys your tolerance IF you are one to smoke.
jrlikestodance 09.01.26	I got a cart cuz I was going to see Nas/The Roots after work and didn't wanna deal w rolling up and man real flower is so much better
Eakflanderyof 09.01.26	@budgie Lmao i had a brief time in my life where i was doing a bit of coke for a few months but fortunately i had a wakeup call a few months into that before it got out of hand. Anyway, the closest ive come to that was accidentally pulling a bag of weed out in front of a walmart employee checking receipts. i forgot it was in my pocket and i went to quickly snatch the receipt from my pocket but came up with a bag of flower 😂
Josh D. 09.01.26	My only embarassing public incident was a group of us were at a bar we were regulars at and one of the guys had a hook up. He basically got everyone's order and made the call, and it was probably 5 or 6 of us each asked for a gram. So this guy goes out back to get it, comes back to the back patio we're on and goes "you get a gram, you get a gram" trying to be funny, except when he slapped mine in my hand he missed and it fell to the ground in front of everyone. I turned to a friend and said we should probably leave now that the whole bar probably saw that.
budgie 09.01.26	lol i think the most ridiculous public ive had was buying a bag of E pills off a friend who was sitting & eating right next to the sidewalk infront of a taco shop on busy as fuck pacific coast highway at noon in downtown carlsbad. billion tourists around cuz it's not even a block to the beach
Supercoolguy64 09.01.26	First time I tried edibles I took too many and schizo'd out. People who act like weed is this perfect thing are fucking annoying
zakalwe 09.01.26	I was saying this on here years ago and none of you slags would listen to ya uncle zak
smaugman 09.01.26	never had an embarrassing encounter in public, but my mother has no clue what weed smells like, so when i lived at home, she would ask why there was a smell of rotten grass in the basement, why i smelt like bonfire and shit like that. pretty funny until she found out and became really mad for like 20 minutes then havent been mad about it since
smaugman 09.01.26	first time i drank alcohol, i drank too much and died. people who act like alcohol is non-problematic are fucking annoying
artificialbox 09.01.26	rotten grass lmfaoooo
smaugman 09.01.26	Yeah she’s sweet and really innocent in that sense
NudeTayne 09.02.26	This whole thread reminds me of the Dewey Cox reefers scene
botb 09.02.26	YOU DONT WANT NONE OF THIS SHIT DEWEY 10/10 movie
NudeTayne 09.02.26	IT MAKES SEX EVEN BETTER YOU DON'T WANT NO PART OF THIS SHIT
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smaugman 09.02.26	Look, another fella who started out way too early and abused substances
Josh D. 09.02.26	"weed is insidious, especially with how underplayed it is culturally" what
Eakflanderyof 09.02.26	LOOK OUT MAN
AlkemestRedux 09.02.26	I mean I sort of agree, especially with what people already mentioned about the super high THC levels now. Also related hot take, dab rigs are no different than "hard" drugs really. Once you start heating up a nail with a blowtorch it's not really any different than hitting the pookie lol I'm definitely on team grandpa weed when I smoke now days. Like give me some weak indica so I can just chill. Don't need my consciousness expanded anymore.
jrlikestodance 09.02.26	Indicas or hybrids only. Dabs are wack
RVAHC13 09.02.26	Ohmmmmm Paul’s a big fat cunt
Eakflanderyof 09.02.26	@alkemest High potency thc is no joke but it's definitely still not even in the same ballpark as something like heroin or coke. Weed isnt gonna make most people start shoplifting, sucking cock, or stealing their kids piggy bank money
AlkemestRedux 09.02.26	That's true, but the amount of psychic torment dabs have caused me was probably 1000x that of any of the times I've done heroin or coke, even if those are objectively much more life-destroying.
NudeTayne 09.02.26	And you never did pay for drugs. Not once.
AlkemestRedux 09.02.26	They dropped from the heavens directly into the dome
combustion07 09.02.26	In terms of the mind altering aspect of thc I would definitely argue it is stronger than heroin in that sense. I did heroin and fentanyl for a long time and never once flew into an existential crisis. Granted I probably should have but it never happened lol but yeah agreed it probably won’t compel you to suck a wiener
NudeTayne 09.02.26	An old friend of mine that used to be addicted to heroin told me that it makes you feel like God and you never wanna stop using it. Weed has never made me feel like God. Hungry and dancing in my kitchen while making food but not like God.
combustion07 09.02.26	People say the god shit about heroin but I definitely never got that. It just made me momentarily forget about my problems while also developing a constant new problem of having to get more or I’d be puking yellow shit everywhere and looking like I needed an exorcist lol
RunOfTheMill 09.02.26	I get high and clean my bathroom and it’s fucking sparkling after an hour, I feel so accomplished I’ve also gotten high and went straight to sleep 20 minutes later, which I don’t like so much and feel hungover in the morning I always keep in mind how I’m feeling beforehand and what I want out of it.
AlkemestRedux 09.02.26	Hmm yeah opiates never made me feel like god either, but they did make everything feel like Christmas Eve which is a very dangerous thing to have on tap whenever you have $50 lol
NudeTayne 09.02.26	Yeah idk I've never touched the stuff and I don't plan on it but that's what the dude would say. He ended up getting clean in the long run and got real religious, but whatever helps man
NudeTayne 09.02.26	"Indicas or hybrids only. Dabs are wack" Just seeing this and that's insane to me, it's pretty much Sativa only for me, Indicas give me huge anxiety, which sucks because it'd be nice to sleep to them but nah even a little bit rubs me the wrong way entirely
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combustion07 09.02.26	People more commonly compare it to a warm embrace/hug feeling here and in my mind I think about how much cheaper it would be for them just to hug someone even if they had to pay for it lol
NudeTayne 09.02.26	I gotta fever and the cure is more hugs
sonictheplumber 09.03.26	one thing i do appreciate about weed is i never had any embarrassing jackass moments on it like i do with speed, certain pills, alcohol especially. if anything youre more likely to think too hard about the shitty joke youre about to tell
sonictheplumber 09.03.26	im basically scared to show my face in atlanta because i started mixing hard drugs and tons of alcohol and blacking out at just about every show i went to, then you gotta piece together every stupid thing you said or did
budgie 09.03.26	heroin doesnt make you feel like god necessarily but it does like completely remove your capacity to feel worry or shame, so for a lot of people with timid personalities i guess it would feel like a major behavioral improvement. it also makes you feel very hopeful, like no matter what everything is going to work out in the end. i think that's the most seductive and dangerous effect meth does make you feel like god though, and in a lot of areas it is like a huge performance enhancing drug. i mean everyone knows its easier to cram for an exam or organize your garage lol, or write code or whatever on adderall, just take that to the next level. for me it was learning, playing, writing guitar lines for like 10 hours straight and then a fuckton of liquor to temper the miserable 30-hour-long comedown
budgie 09.03.26	"im basically scared to show my face in atlanta because i started mixing hard drugs and tons of alcohol and blacking out at just about every show i went to, then you gotta piece together every stupid thing you said or did this shit fucking haunts me dude looking back at like my early 20s at how many friend groups i basically cut loose cuz i was like ill just find new people rather than confront the fact that i was a huge piece of shit