JohnnyoftheWell: Tory stooge music

JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	Please send me your favourite Tory stooge records this is very important
DadKungFu 11.13.23	Wasn't Ian Curtis a Tory?
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	Oooh was he? Don't know if he catered to tories though - we're going for music for tories, not by tories here (or else the list would be a lot longer lol). don't think JD has the same stooge appeal as these others
ffs 11.13.23	prob like ed sheeran or anything they think will endear voters to them, tory reptiles listen to music in the same capacity that they support football teams
Egarran 11.13.23	Leave Mike Oldfield alone. He was just an autist on LSD.
someone 11.13.23	is this music that sounds like the tories listen to it or made by fucks of tory-oriented siding?
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	for tories, not by tories! list your tory friends' favs plz
Mort. 11.13.23	missing mumford and sons because a really arrogant private school girl i know (who later went to Durham lol) loved them plus they were posh as hell but dressed up like they werent also guitarist has said some mega dumb shit plus they suck
Mort. 11.13.23	Winston Aubrey Aladar deBalkan Marshall was born in Wandsworth, London, on 20 December 1987,[1][a] to Sir Paul Marshall, a British tycoon and co-founder of the Marshall Wace hedge fund, and Sabina de Balkany,[4] from a genteel European Jewish family.[5] He has a sister, singer/songwriter Giovanna.[6] His mother is French,[7] and his maternal grandmother was property tycoon Molly de Balkany,[8] one of the first female property developers in France;[9] Marshall's maternal great-uncle was the billionaire developer and collector Robert Zellinger de Balkany [fr].[10][11] Through Robert's marriages, Marshall's great-aunts include Genevieve François-Poncet, daughter of André François-Poncet, and Princess Maria Gabriella of Savoy.[12][13] Molly and Robert were the children of Hungarian-Romanian businessman Aladar Zellinger, with the family relocating to France after World War II;[13] they added "de Balkany" to the name upon arrival in France.[14] Marshall has said that thirteen members of his family "were murdered in [...] the Holocaust", and that his maternal grandmother was a survivor.[5][15] Marshall was educated at St Paul's School, an independent school in London.[16] In 2010, The Guardian wrote that "there's [nothing] inherently wrong with musicians being privately educated. It's just a bit grating when one of them insists on going by the name "Country" Winston Marshall".[17]
Mort. 11.13.23	Marshall is interested in the books of the Canadian professor of psychology Jordan Peterson, and invited Peterson to Mumford & Sons' studio in 2018, with Peterson sharing a photograph of them together on social media. When asked about his involvement with Peterson, who has been a controversial figure, Marshall told CBC Radio: "I don't think [Peterson's] psychology is controversial, but the quasi-political stuff... I think it's a conversation we're having a little bit as a band and, do we want to get into the political stuff?"[134] Later in 2018, Marshall told NME that he "[thinks] everyone should read widely. If you read something, work out who's got the opposite opinion and read that guy so you can form your own ideas."[84] In the same interview, both Marshall and Mumford opined that musicians should not talk about politics, and said that they did not like being asked about politics, with Marshall telling the magazine:[84] I have a little bit of frustration with the politicising of music. I don't mind when artists are political, but I think politics is fucking complicated. It's different from three years ago when we were doing promo for Wilder Mind – we weren't ever asked about politics. People didn't care, but now everyone's got a fucking opinion. Everything is, "Politics this, politics that". It's a massive change. On 7 July 2022 he was a guest on the BBC's political programme Question Time, discussing the resignation of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson which had been announced that day.[135] moron country. who the fuck let him on question time lol
zakalwe 11.13.23	Blair fucked it
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	"let him on question time" lol next to Alastair Campbell too
MeatSalad 11.13.23	I knew mumford and sons were a bunch of posers but jfc, didn't realize it was that bad
bighubbabuddha 11.13.23	how is the smiths pro-tory
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Read the list comments
someone 11.13.23	Morrissey is pro-Tory for sure tho Van Morrison ig
Trebor. 11.13.23	Honk if Thatcher's dead
Mort. 11.13.23	limmy i luv u
zakalwe 11.13.23	Morrissey Tory? Have a word with yourself.
DadKungFu 11.13.23	Rage Against The Machine is classic hilarious conservative stooge music in the states not sure about the UK
ffs 11.13.23	yeah morissey isn't a tory, he's much more right wing
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	Van Morrison is also more right-wing nutjob than corporate stooge, but I could easily see half the frontbench lounging out to Astral Weeks so will add him Think the only major presence RATM have had in the UK in the last however many years was when they were sent to Christmas #1 in protest against the X Factor in 2009 - our political branding tends to be a lot less aggro
ShadowRemains 11.13.23	mumford and sons fucking suck
Mort. 11.13.23	yeah genuinely dogshit trite band
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Sigh No More is a pretty good album :)
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	ctrl+f "staff" on the sigh no more ratings page for a quick giggle
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	No fucking way. rym added 'stomp clap hey' as a genre yesterday
Mort. 11.13.23	“We were playing a festival in Dublin the other week.There was this other group, like, warming up in the next sort of chalet, and they were terrible. I said, ‘Shut them c***s up!’ And they were still warming up, so I threw a bottle at them." -Mark E smith on Mumford and Sons also damn really surprised by how many votes their first album has here, expected them to have a couple hundred at most. guessing im forgetting how horrendously popular and ubiquitous they were im still occasionally plagued by nightmares from when Kings of Leon were on the radio all day every day
Mort. 11.13.23	'Sigh No More is a pretty good album :)' you have it 2.5d you fucking donkey
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Funny quote yeah
Mort. 11.13.23	yeah i just stole it from you
ShadowRemains 11.13.23	mumford and sons are the imagine dragons of folk pop
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	the sex is ON FIRE
Mort. 11.13.23	pls noooooo i hate that song
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Someone like YOU would say that
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	over here theres not really such a thing, anything thats more than 20 years old has its share of conservatives in the audience its not uncommon to encounter some 50 year old saying something like "remember when punk didnt care about politics?"
Mort. 11.13.23	'Someone like YOU would say that' OOOH WOOOOAH OOOOOH WOOOOOAH
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Damn that Only by the Night album was really big. Forgot about this song. https://youtu.be/uT4mJCyydCE?si=Kn8O3DpIHMzWFuTQ
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	theres also the fact that you have to be some financial investment firm douche fucker nowadays to even afford a show beyond silentpotato DJing at the toronto oyster bar half or more of the crowd at paul mccartney, U2, elton john, springsteen, neil young, bob dylan most legacy acts, will lean conservative
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	its not uncommon to encounter some 50 year old saying something like "remember when punk didnt care about politics?" [2]
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	we should also do a neoliberal music thread - talking heads, radiohead, hmm coldplay perhaps. pearl jam? like you see a bumper sticker that says "BLUE NO MATTER WHO" and you can just barely make out 1979 by smashing pumpkins as you pass them for going 50 in a 60
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	macca (who does need to be on this list twice), springsteen, elton john and bob dylan were glaring omissions thank you
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Define neoliberal.
DadKungFu 11.13.23	Almost definitely using it wrong
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	"we should also do a neoliberal music thread - talking heads, radiohead, hmm coldplay perhaps. pearl jam? like you see a bumper sticker that says "BLUE NO MATTER WHO" and you can just barely make out 1979 by smashing pumpkins as you pass them for going 50 in a 60" lol yes the Neoliberalism Is Kinda Working Okay For Me list needs to happen, but that's less of a corporate demographic. needs Arcade Fire, Bjork, a heap of shoegaze, the Beach Boys and everything Steven Wilson
DoofDoof 11.13.23	At least we get to complain about Labour for the next few years as the Tories are done - and complain we all will because the country is broke and the same centrist policies are going to derp just like the existing ones. This country is less likely to have a populist like Trump get in, Corbyn got nowhere and Suella just got kicked to the kerb. There’s about a 10% difference between any electable politician in the UK, it’s not something to get excited about really.
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	neoliberalism where im at in america basically just means "everything thats happened since the mid 70s/early 80s" obviously regular ass people are just liberals but i like to call them neolibs from time to time because theyre like "noooo! i only support imperialism when a democrat is in office, im a good guy!!!"
neekafat 11.13.23	Lmao I had just read an article are yall ok over there?
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	what happened in australia? trump?
sonictheplumber 11.13.23	also arent most kate bush fans actually gay?
neekafat 11.13.23	Not since Stranger things misinterpreted a song about gender
JohnnyoftheWell 11.13.23	"also arent most kate bush fans actually gay?" aren't most Tory MPs who get laid off for sex offences
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Johhny do you like Babes in Toyland?
Sinternet 11.13.23	my conservative father's personal idol is kate bush so take that as you will, i guess she has always denied any kind of support for the conservative party missing a few of the yuppy 80s lot who loved early thatcher like gary numan and such, although i imagine most grew up out of that in later years
Butkuiss 11.13.23	David Cam’ron
GhandhiLion 11.13.23	Oh I forgot. You need to add captain beefheart. Theresa May was totally there for real. https://e.snmc.io/i/fullres/w/d419da363e16366957465ec40fa309e6/6269653
Winesburgohio 11.13.23	Only found out Truss got rolled this February, initially being utterly perplexed why I was reading so much about Sunak in this guardian magazine (...) I picked up at Berlin (...) airport, and anyway that is the kind of political detachment that should be aspired to. Now I've returned to being UpToDate and Online I'm significantly more miserable
Winesburgohio 11.13.23	Anyway 21 rules . Too good for the likes of this!
SlothcoreSam 11.14.23	This one for sure: Conservative Military Image - Casual Violence
Kompys2000 11.14.23	Haven't been keeping tabs on much across the pond since Truss got the axe, but 2 PMs ousted inside of 2 months? Can only imagine the field day the commentariat have had
ShadowRemains 11.14.23	piss on thatcher’s grave
Mort. 11.14.23	'Conservative Military Image - Casual Violence' the comments under this bands video for Yard Hard are amusing. seems they have a confused fan base
bighubbabuddha 11.14.23	Yeah Tories don't listen to the smiths, sad liberals are smiths fans
Kompys2000 11.14.23	I think the thing of why it's on the list is Morrissey himself being a tory or having toryish characteristics
JohnnyoftheWell 11.14.23	there's an old story about David Cameron repping the Smiths on (iirc) Desert Island Discs and Johnny Marr blowing off steam at him in response looks like he also quoted them (slightly incorrectly) at some point in PMQs too
SomeCallMeTim 11.14.23	All I keep reading is Toy Story music
bighubbabuddha 11.15.23	Cameron has previously publicly declared his love for The Smiths, which led to Labour-supporting guitarist Johnny Marr to later tweet: “David Cameron, stop saying that you like The Smiths, no you don’t. I forbid you to like it.” fairs but I'm with Marr, all my left wing friends listen to the Smiths
Mort. 11.15.23	'there's an old story about David Cameron repping the Smiths on (iirc) Desert Island Discs and Johnny Marr blowing off steam at him in response looks like he also quoted them (slightly incorrectly) at some point in PMQs too' doesnt stewart lee have a story about going to uni with david cameron and cameron asking him to book bands for some party?? i feel like i remember this because its been confirmed cameron is into that era
JohnnyoftheWell 07.05.24	gonna reflect our new parliament and gleefully delete every other album from this list and then some
Butkuiss 07.05.24	I can’t believe Big Dave put Gillian Welch on this list
bellovddd 07.05.24	johnny ya stooge.
JohnnyoftheWell 07.05.24	gawd i forgot how obnoxious the guardian was pre-brexit era https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/12/david-cameron-gillian-welch-gig
zakalwe 07.05.24	Never forget
Butkuiss 07.05.24	Guardian op-eds are still punishing. I love the graun but Jesus I still can’t countenance the self indulgent talking heads they get in.
Mort. 07.05.24	https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/12/david-cameron-gillian-welch-gig is johnny taking a stewart lee pisstake article seriously?
Mort. 07.05.24	yeah i see nothing obnoxious about that article and stewart lee literally still writes those sort of articles for the guardian
DoofDoof 07.05.24	I'll keep an open mind with Labour this time for as long as they don't get involved in anything related to free speech. That's my line in the sand. In terms of my personal finances and employment a Labour government could be a winner for me, but I vote ideologically not financially selfishly, so there you have it. If they go there then they are quite obviously the enemy. That would be the moustache twirl.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	Reform split the right wing vote significantly, coming second in just under 100 seats. Labour won a large majority yet had virtually the same vote share as Corbyn 2019 and about 5% less than Corbyn 2017. The main reason people voted for labour was 'to get the tories out', their support is very soft and many of their wins are incredibly narrow. If the right finds a way to unite in the next 5 years they will storm to a win in 2029
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49947-why-are-britons-voting-labour 48% to get the tories out 13% the country needs a change 5% I agree with their policies
DoofDoof 07.05.24	Labour also have to worry about independent candidates, Rayner had to beg 'a room full of men' for her seat effectively. Let's just say top of Keir's wishlist is that the Gaza crisis is resolved quickly and is then forgotten for the most part in the UK asap, otherwise they might just keep bleeding seats there. You are right though, that UKIP voting north wall who probably had Reform second this time are also a worry for Labour. 'Landslide by default'...is still 'by default'. I won't begrudge Labour if they do make genuinely positive changes to the country, esp the economy, open mind I keep telling myself.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	The Gaza crisis will resolve itself within the next two years. It won't affect labour's popularity but the biggest threat to international security will be the Ukraine-Russia war. If Donald Trump wins in the US he will withhold aid to Ukraine and cripple them. He's winning in all the swing states which are the keys to power. If far-right Marine Le Pen wins a majority in France she will try to withhold aid to Ukraine and weaken NATO unity. Potentially dangeous times ahead.
Egarran 07.05.24	>Potentially dangeous times ahead. Have you looked at the current state of things? In 10 years you will still do nothing and still worry about the future. Damn bourgeois traitor.
fogza 07.05.24	It's kind of weird adjusting to the FPTP system after coming from a PR country.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	I'm a data analyst for the ONS making £27k a year in rip off Britain, still in student debt from a masters and I rent a small apartment with my gf and share a car. I wouldn't call myself bourgeois lmao
Egarran 07.05.24	That makes it even worse. Remember you are the greatest agent of change in the entire world.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	okay putinista. I mean I voted Green and my constituency North Herefordshire swung Green from a 25k majority safe Tory Seat so maybe I am the greatest agent of change in the entire world and didn't know it until now.
Egarran 07.05.24	You are a neutered citizen generating wealth for a system that doesn't want what is best for you. No one is going to save you except you. Start looking into improving your own life instead of worrying about a possible future. FORCE FED ANXIETY riff riff
Zac124 07.05.24	Based North Herefordshire. Waveney Valley also did that too. I am surprised either happened. That is such a major shift. My constituency has stuck with Conservatives and it wasn't even close.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	you sound like an anarchist, possibly an anarcho-primitivist Egarran, can't tell. We are all going to die, no one can be saved. I live my life on a day-to-day basis. Ideas of 'oppressive systems' are thankfully abstract notions in the democracy I live in. I believe Russia is a growing threat to international security. They undermine and interfere in democratic elections and attack soverign states in Europe. Once they defeat and secure Ukraine they will move on to Moldova and Georgia. I'm not worried or anxious but I am concerned, there's a difference.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	Yeah it's awesome Zac. My new MP is called Dr Ellie Chowns. She's intelligent, kind and hard-working. She'll make a big difference compared to Sir Bill Wiggin who was possibly one of the laziest MPs in the country lmao
Egarran 07.05.24	>I'm a data analyst for the ONS making £27k a year in rip off Britain, still in student debt from a masters and I rent a small apartment with my gf and share a car. How concerning is this compared to Russia's threat to international security? I would personally say about a million times more. But the good thing is you change that. Don't be distracted, let other people deal with international matters. They are probably even more qualified than you.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	I mean I'm working hard and my salary projection over the next couple of decades could rise to 45-50k if I get promotions and play my cards right so think I'll be good Egarran. Cheers for your concern though lmao
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	But yeah I get you are saying to be stoic in a convoluted way and control the things I can control, which I agree with
Zac124 07.05.24	Nice. She definitely seems she deserved the votes. My MP is Nus Ghani whom, as conservatives go, doesn't seem too bad but I would have much preferred Lib-Dem, Labour or Green by a landslide.
Egarran 07.05.24	Also how can I be an anarcho-primitivist if I'm agitating to random weirdos online? I should be out preparing the garden for a completely self-sustaining lifestyle. As of now I can probably feed myself and the gf for a month at most. Pathetic!
DoofDoof 07.05.24	I’m unionised and work for a very woke organisation, so selfishly speaking my vote should always be Labour. Like I said I just worry about freedoms under Labour, Starmer is at heart a rule maker and prosecutor, that’s what he’s been driven by in the past, that's his specialism.
bighubbabuddha 07.05.24	Egarran I get the sense you are alt-right and anti-establishment, possibly anti-science. You aren't anarcho-primitivist
Egarran 07.05.24	You got one out of three.
jrlikestodance 07.05.24	Crazy that James Blunt is now James Blake
DadKungFu 07.05.24	Crass Rudimentary Peni Ted Nugent Robert Goulet Conflict Choking Victim James Blunke