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| 5s on 5s: PON vs TOSMOKMUZYKI
You know the drill here we go doing this on mobile nearly killed me let's go um | | 1 |  | Anathema
Judgement
Feedback for this round so far:
"hey now it's not pachelbel's fault that his piece was turned into muzak in the 20th century by jean-françois paillard, he wouldve thrown up if he lived to hear that shit
it is funny though that smok clearly intended his 5 for the muzak version & doesn't know a thing about baroque music " - Havey
" mayb b nicer to pon
like 0.1% nice" - Phero | | 2 |  | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
RECAP
This is 5s on 5s, two distressingly willing competitors go head to head one of them wins it is a competition of 5s. Is it a tournament maybe.
RULES
Ten rounds, or maybe fewer. Each round contains cogent matches of 5s. There is a criteria it is secret. Win/lose/draw however wins most rounds wins.
THIS TIME?
This time is special because it is a GRUDGE MATCH. The competitors probably do not know this yet, but we will see why soon. The stakes are therefore raised and the loser must LEAVE THE SITE FOREVER I do not make the rules. First we need history let's go. It is time to INTRODUCE THE COMPETITORS | | 3 |  | Vylet Pony
Carousel
In the blue corner: PON (aka Jacquibm)
PON arrived on Sputnik in 2012 and carved out a unique character narrative that has since been franchised and disseminated to the point that few of the many fucking users who have benefitted from it understand the source text not trying to be passagg here shut the shit up and listen we can fix that right now okay. I arrived on Sput in 2011 and therefore own the rights to all this shit.
Original PON was a chill babecake who mixed MLP fandom with a growing, if inexperienced interest in theme park candy metal of the In Flames/Wintersun/Colored Sands strain. His presence was both welcome and welcoming, and his early reviews were easily on par with the best of contemp Sputnik metal journalism (I don't mean to backhand him too much there: he got much better and never shat the bed). | | 4 |  | Vylet Pony
Super Pony World: Fairytails
PON eventually acquired the Staff tag and blazed a trail of increasingly commercially hostile metal reppage over however many years. Three major highlights of his tenure include the time he declared Ulcerate's Everything Is Fire the death metal album of our times five years after its release, the time he got a promo from arch-poser sput user Graveyard's solo project only to use the staff pedestal to rain a 3.2 upon it, and the unlikely role he had in legitimising the Pop Music Is Good Actually movement on Sput via Carly Rae Jepsen as one of the (checks notes) two credible Staffers of that time who recreationally consumed pop music (RIP Brostep).
While PON's Staff years were noble and commendable and fine etcetc., their legacy wasn't fully established until his literal final reviews. | | 5 |  | Vylet Pony
Queen of Misfits
By this point, the kid had been classical pilling like a cat in heat and was able to thrive on the facts that 1) a significant portion of his taste was both canonically enshrined and totally unintelligible to the majority of his audience (the dream for esoteric hevyshit boppers far and wide), and 2) he was able to draw on a significant cultural and technical framework to support critiques of whichsoever latest kvlt viral skronk phenomenon the bums of Sput would be lapping up with or without. As such, the endgame of PON's entire character progression can be surmised from the following two sentences, from his review of Ad Nauseam's Imperative Imperceptible Impulse:
"This penchant for variation and polyphony was – according to the band themselves – informed by a number of 20th century classical composers, such as Xenakis, Scelsi, Ligeti and Penderecki. It’s a relief that this influence extends far beyond the simple inclusion of tortured strings as a kind of dressing, imbuing the core str | | 6 |  | Vylet Pony
Cutiemarks (And the Things That Bind Us)
uctures of each song in a way that feels neither antiquated nor prescriptive."
Whether or not Sputnik's ongoing indiscriminate fetishisation of burgeoning dissoshit is a good thing, or whether PON's Faustian pact with the classicists ultimately worked in his favour will be determined by this contest. PON's journey is the hero's journey and although his fate is uncertain, his role in legitimising both poptimism and po-faced metal-ism was undoubtedly played as a protagonist (easy to say when the majority of folks writing/supporting similar bollocks still occupy NPC status, but)... | | 7 |  | Kalmah
Swamplord
In the red corner: TOSMOKMUZYKI (aka PON WARIO)
There can be no matter without antimatter, no protein without grease, and no franchise mascot without an arbitrarily and often incompetently evil nemesis - and as such PON's entire oeuvre essentially left us destined for TOSMOKMUZYKI.
Like probably all Sput infamies, TOSMOK initially appeared on the site's political list in the guise of a brutish flame spammer from the depths of hell. These were bad days and threw up so much s m o k that it took us a while to adjust to the fact that he, too, claims to listen to music. Okay - about that: | | 8 |  | Kalmah
Swampsong
The TOSMOK story by and large mimics the PON trajectory, but inverts the optics at every stage. Transcending the melodeath pantheon to build an empire out of the least appealing music known to man? None of that - Smok venerates the likes of Insomnium, Kalmah and Children of Bodom, and treats their existence as an excuse to shart Cyclotron-style on the rest of music as a whole, *especially* the (majority) parts that have next to nothing in common with it. Anything dissonant is first against the wall; RIP to PON. This is propped up, because of fucking course, by a rampant disposition for the most bland classical nothingmusics on the planet - this shit has sanitised so many retirement homes that Havey himself has a recalcitrant aversion to anything in its proximity. More on that later. | | 9 |  | Kalmah
Seventh Swamphony
The upshot in this in terms of digipresence could not be a further contrast from PON, who was able to employ cool powers of reason to weigh in on arguments with low-effort victories, and [Chill man][endearing animal image][unfluttered banal remark]s for literally everything else. Though he is far less prone these days to giving us an insight as to what skele might have looked like with a baseline degree of erudition and self-awareness, TOSMOK uses the syntax of logic to proactively dismantle any notions approaching conventional wisdom whenever the opportunity arises. You and I could never pull half of this shit off - just try it. Unable to furnish a coherent argument for why soulfulness is the core of music but Marvin Gaye is a useless representation of soul? Throw in a gratuitous classical comparison and watch those heads swivel while you run out the door. | | 10 |  | Kalmah
The Black Waltz
Got your back against your wall as to whether the criteria you set for worthwhile art is perhaps a tiny bit massively janked out? Pull the trick that PON was frequently (and unfairly - eternal reminder that this site can't parse for shit) accused of, and blame it all on your entirely arbitrary use of nebulous descriptors, understandable to no-one else on the planet without a degree in phenomenology and the arcane. | | 11 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
THE MATCH
Now that we have the biographies ironed out, it should be obvious that PON is the hero whose powers of logic and lexis are good and TOSMOK is the agent of chaos come to invert everything PON ever gave us for cheap laughs. End of story?
Uh no no - this is 5s on 5s and the optics are BLIND! Context is important, but if you looked at those two ratings charts without the faintest idea of who produced them, you would assume that TOSMOK was a flippant but tbqh highly welcome cheekymonkey poking fun at the increasingly desperate efforts of metal crusties to champion the artistic merit of concerted skronk JANK, whereas PON's 5slist (of which we shall be seeing everything) is one of the most wretched facsimiles ever produced of the kind of humourless elitism you *don't* want to fall into under any circumstances whatsoever. Can good still beat evil when good wears the trousers of the stooge, and evil plays all comers against themselves with Mephistophilean deftness? Let's see… | | 12 |  | Ad Nauseam
Imperative Imperceptible Impulse
ROUND ONE: First 5 on the list
PON: PON's first 5 is one of the stronger offerings from the rolling bandwagon of trendy melody-allergic technical bullcrap currently functioning as this site's lifeblood for people too mature to listen to core and too celibate to pretend to find merit in Deftones. It is also the last album PON has reviewed to date, which is exactly the kind of ouroboric ironic deliciousness one never expects but always loves to see in a first 5 on a list. It tells us many things about PON, begins with A, and is also beautifully recorded. A good start. | | 13 |  | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND ONE: First 5 on the list
TOSMOKMUZYKI: TOSMOK's first and only 5 is Pachelbel's Canon in its first and most impossible form. You have heard this piece before it is Pachelbel's Canon (more on that later!) Since the listing in question does not correspond to any given recording, I will take it to entail every available version of the piece including non-classical covers. This does not matter right now. All that matters is how it looks as the first 5 on the list. It looks like a statement. We will unpack it later. It sets the tone for TOSMOK's 5s just fine. | | 14 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
Winner of Round One: Pachelbel's Canon is a notable and heroic piece of music that continues to inspire many young minds across the world. Many generations have been ruined since the fucking 1960s. Stupid hippies stupid Beach Boys stupid Pachelbel. III will be forgotten by all but the people who really need it. It is safe.
WINNER: PON | | 15 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND TWO: Bedroom 5s (kink)
TOSMOK: My default gag here would have been something to the tune of "lol pach canon will give you a hot water bottle and tuck you into bed kiss kiss goodnight hurr turbo virgins", after which I'd probably have awarded it an ironic victory because hurr chastity points
…but then I saw that high school lesbian love triangle classroom nude massage scene in the Forest of Love set to Jun Togawa's metamorphic rendition of guess which piece of usually-innocuous-muzak and everything changed forever. I am not bringing those vibes into the bedroom (see literal aerial car crash follow-on within film for why). Curses upon SMOK - this is just further evidence that he understands nothing of the baroque legacy. Bleugh. | | 16 |  | Deathprod
Morals and Dogma
ROUND TWO: Bedroom 5s (kink)
PON: Unlike TOSMOK, who for all his iconoclastic rampage is ultimately a normie ratbag, PON does not do bedrooms. During nocturnal hours, he can be found in a motherfucking *crypt*, though his parlance favours 'temple'. This is adequate cover for why none of his 5s should be brought within 100m of bedroomspace under any given circumstances. Get thirsty, go slow, turn off the lights and go full deathcult on that(?) bitch. m/? | | 17 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
Winner of Round Two: This is a clear-cut case of ugly misplaced tragic erotic misfire vs. unassuming immunity bonus. No further thought is needed.
WINNER: PON | | 18 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND THREE: Refrigeration?
TOSMOKMUZYKI: Well, will it refrigerate or won't it? Huh? HUH!! If this were a freezer round, it might be a different story - Pachelbel's Canon ain't got a crystal's worth of frost in it - but refrigeration just requires steady maintenance of a smooth not-gonna-melt-ur-shit vibe, and I'd argue that if Pachelbel didn't achieve exactly that, then Brian Eno's ambient interpretation of the piece sure af did. He won't exactly stop your milk from going off, but put your feta inside this boi's jaws and its contours will come out as before. KEEP. | | 19 |  | Autechre
Confield
ROUND THREE: Refrigeration?
PON: This needlessly record-shaped chin sharpener has been inside your stupid fucking fridge since before you bought it, and there it will stay forevermore. Is it a miracle that two lean cunts one day burnt it to a CD-R so that the PONs of the world can have us marvel at how little music they listen to, oh shit yes. Is it going to change the extent to or manner in which you consume your stupid fucking fridge? Hold my very much below room temperature fucking beer. | | 20 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
There is no explanation for this round and if you think I should have provided one, I will personally finance your therapy until your music taste improves.
WINNER: TOSMOKMUZYKI | | 21 |  | Rudimentary Peni
Death Church
ROUND FOUR: Most surprising 5
PON: PON's most surprising 5 is actually a pretty great album, and-
actually I'm going to end that sentence there lol.
Death Church slaps and is nasty. This shit is anarcho PUNX / earlydays hxc and has grit, paranoia, delightfully unpolished musicianship, and everything else you'd usually never ever associate with a curation cabinet full of meticulously practiced Things That Ordinary People Can't Make Without Diplomas (other than burgeoning mental illness, to which end this record is about as full of diagnoses as they come). Going solely from the almost disconcerting ease with which the band/album titles blend into the rest of PON's 5s, I am more than half convinced that he has never in fact heard this record and simply 5'd for optics, but it's a welcome enough plot twist that, honestly, fair. | | 22 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND FOUR: Most surprising 5
TOSMOKMUZYKI: TOSMOK's most surprising 5 is Pachelbel's Canon, which tbqh is such a stately, multi-situational piece of such universal appeal that I am shocked he enjoys it in the slightest. This wretched kid has filtered himself on a ludicrously vast range of records that it butterpliers my stomach to see that he is, after all, just like the rest of us. This shit is the equivalent of Baseline 5ing Morning Musume or tectactoe 5ing the Killers - not the worst self-own in the form of an uncharacteristically basic simp, but one that makes me suspicious | | 23 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
TOSMOK has a slight disadvantage here in that his critiques are so chaotic and inconsistent that anything he did lay down a 5 for would clash in whatever way against however many of his dunks. PON's preferences are more narrowly charted and his character coherently outlined, and it's easier for him to make a departure as such
WINNER: PON | | 24 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND FIVE: Least surprising 5
TOSMOKMUZYKI: TOSMOK's least surprising 5s is Pachelbel's Canon, which tbqh is such a basic, colourless, inoffensive shell of a piece that I am not shocked in the slightest to see that it's the only piece of music incapable of filtering him in the slightest. This wretched kid has blazed such a contrarian trail of piss that it is ultimately a source of ironic joy to see that at the end of the day, he can't help but mark himself out as just like the rest of us. His failure to 5 any specific performance of Canon and Gigue in D, instead allying himself with the highly obscure source text made popular but a mid-20th century mood muzak takeover, suggests either an indifference to anything resembling contemporary relevance or a basic level of ignorance as to what exactly he is rating. Both of these are very much in character. Huh. | | 25 |  | Ulcerate
Everything Is Fire
ROUND FIVE: Least surprising 5
PON: PON's least surprising 5 is an album which which he has made every effort to define not only large swathes of his gentile personality, but also the site itself. His success in the former regard and *kinda* also the latter suggests that this was a landmark waiting to happen for a long time - Rome was not built in one album! Ulcerate fit PON's anime-glasses-up disposition for uninviting theoryskronk with extra decibels like a hand in SMOK's MUM and I am quivering with boredom at this point in the birb blurb blurb | | 26 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
As we saw in the last round, consistency is everything here, but PON's donk quest to make the world a squarer place can go on no longer at this point - Ulcerate as a personal statement 5 is long out for novelty opinion at this point and also nakedly short on the personality many mistakenly credited it with to begin with. SMOK gets this one for Sisyphean absurdist points.
WINNER: TOSMOKMUZYKI | | 27 |  | Peste Noire
Ballade cuntre lo Anemi francor
ROUND SIX: 5 that you should most obviously drop
PON: This is such easy bait that I just spent 3 airborne hrs trying to reflect on a savvier alternative, but there's no two ways around it - literally the only way France could be more insufferable is if it was also fascist, and literally the worst 21st century look fascism continues to enjoy for lawd knows what reason is in anonymous black metal bullshit postulation propped up by people like, in this case, PON because actually the most important thing right now is for us to know they want to take their art seriously.
All that said, the main reason I have zero interest in this band is that even the sappy hack from Alcest couldn't stand to hang around with them. Imagine the lameness of those optics - sort that shit out, PON. | | 28 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND SIX: 5 that you should most obviously drop
TOSMOKMUZYKI: At this point, I straight up do not buy the idea that this unrecorded piece of transcendent waiting room is a more accurate reflection of SMOK's criteria for greatness than, say, Children of Bodom's HATE CREW DEATHROLL. If that album ain't going up, this one should come down to keep it company and - a still more accurate reflection of Things As They Are - there can be no 5s and no winners and I can finally go to fucking bed. | | 29 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
I did not ever expect to see SMOK bailed out on his shit by unacceptably racist toxicity from literally the worst European country, but here we are. This entry was more topical than intended, but DEMON OF THE FALL forced my hand boy I cannot wait to see him up here
WINNER: TOSMOKMUZYKI | | 30 |  | Collegium Vocale Gent
Carlo Gesualdo: Responsoria 1611
ROUND SEVEN: buy me a fucking drink
PON: I am somewhat biased against this ALBUM because Spotify cut me off halfway through with a lil "DO YOU LIKE SYNTHESISER INDIE ROCK LIKE FEVER RAY OR THE KNIFE [cue 5 seconds of Grimes-like darkpop]" back to back with a Louis Theroux ad, and it occurred to me that, uh, yes Louis Theroux and Grimes would conceivably sit in the same room as one another and consume this music over gin and tonics. I hate classical music and its lack of label-mandated boundaries! How dare they.
Still, that's already one beverage in play and I've spent enough time around choirboys to know that they a) have absolutely no morals and b) drink like fish. Can I imagine calling a Gesualdo night and expect a row of fine melodious compatriots to assemble, each hell-bent on getting me shitfaced? Yessir. | | 31 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND SEVEN: buy me a fucking drink
TOSMOKMUZYKI: You cannot do anything more than sip peppermint tea to Pachelbel. Anything more is irresponsible postulation and yes I will have you sectioned. | | 32 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
For all his preoccupation with stuffy appearances, PON does know when to promote a pissup at the moments that matter. TOSMOK has spent too long languishing in his own pissiness and has little to share in that department.
WINNER: PON | | 33 | | Johann Pachelbel
Canon and Gigue in D
ROUND EIGHT: spiritual warmth
TOSMOKMUZYKI: How warm should a spirit be? Wrong question! Wrong metaphysics tbh - in the works of TOSMOK, spirit (innate, trainable, capable of ingenuity, definitive of one's self) tends to play second fiddle to its stunted but arbitrarily more important cousin soul (innate, unyielding, inert, on loan from the divine at a crippling interest rate), and I think this is reflected very clearly in Pachelbel's canon: one listens plantlike and grows only in the areas that matter least (attention span, affinity for sunlight, generic feelings of objectless compassion) and none that ultimately count (have *you* tried applying mind over matter to circulation problems uh).
Having said that, Pachelbel is underrated as a charity act and it is unlikely that he would let your spirit go fully cold. | | 34 |  | Munchener Kammerorchester
Scelsi: Natura renovatur
ROUND EIGHT: spiritual warmth
PON: For a 'composer' with such ardent fixation on 'spirituality' 'and' ""transcendental"" _art_, ''Scelsi''''s music is too gaseous to accomodate the vast blocky substance of *my* spirit at least! God, this sounds like a disintegrating radiator and my circulation is wilting in time to it. To cap that off, Scelsi didn't even compose about a quarter of his work - his method for his second period consisted in recording free improv (cool) and then transcribing it with the most rigorous attention to detail attainable (literally the most joyless approach conceivable to free improv). Still, interesting.
HOWEVER, true to Pon's nasty habit of teasing interesting niches and then sneakily pivoting to unapologetic sniffing of the most banally aired dissonant flatulences, Scelsi's second period had concluded before any of these pieces were written (they are all from the following period) - but still, this classical and the rules are compose everything or die. Credit where it's due, Scelsi has indeed died - does his spirit live on? In these wheezing, vaguely unsettling approximations of a haunted retirement home, apparently so. | | 35 | | KILLING JOKE
KILLING JOKE
Pachelbel will keep your living room tepid. Scelsi is a slightly preferable alternative to Stars of the Lid for saps who would rather be listening to their kettle whining than either. My feet are cold.
WINNER: TOSMOKMUZYKI | |
JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | INCOMING will edit this to be readable when afore album IDAFFMF etc | ArsMoriendi
07.03.23 | You listened to a bunch of bronie-themed albums just to make a memelist? | pizzamachine
07.03.23 | Damn, I just wrecked smok. Have mercy! | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | did i
didn't i
you tell me, detective. | ArsMoriendi
07.03.23 | Okay you didn't, but now I'm gonna flipflop and say you should've to truly understand the inner essence of PonJac | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | why do u do this to yourself | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | probably for reasons not that dissimilar to your self-enforced consumption of c.3000 records that do next to nothing emotively or artistically for you, for reasons that you are still incapable of articulating in decipherable human language
"Okay you didn't, "
detect harder | ArsMoriendi
07.03.23 | I don't identify with the detective Ars label anymore
That's so like 2021 | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | u think about it too much | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | it is very 2021
but imma need to see proof of personal growth
@TOSMOKMUZYKI i have an intuition
for jank
and do not require further thoughts for this topic | ArsMoriendi
07.03.23 | "but imma need to see proof of personal growth"
Why | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | have u outgrown 2021 where is the glow-up | ArsMoriendi
07.03.23 | What | PotsyTater
07.03.23 | Ars is definitely out of his detective era but still occasionally channels those skills for the good of the site | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | occasional channelling sounds like a deduction hazard | Kompys2000
07.03.23 | 2021 is still kicking my ass ngl
Expecting BIG things from this list | pizzamachine
07.03.23 | Me vs Kompys next pls | Kompys2000
07.03.23 | Hahahahaha yesssssss | Dedes
07.03.23 | Boy I uh
Man speaking of indecipherable language holy fuck johnny where's the annotations and hyperlinks when you need them
I'm gonna have to second detective Ars with this one and too say-what? | Winesburgohio
07.03.23 | pachelback song SUCKED until paillard covered it | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | incorrect | Ryus
07.03.23 | masochism on steroids | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvNQLJ1_HQ0&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
checkmate | Sevengill
07.03.23 | Kalmaaahhhhhhh | PotsyTater
07.03.23 | Wonder how many times I will have to learn for the first time that pon is Jac before I remember (answer: infinity) | ffs
07.03.23 | canon and gigue in deez nuts | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | it is time for new developments | Demon of the Fall
07.03.23 | are you bringing back '4.5 that should be a 5' for this round? y'know, for variety's sake, lol | botb
07.03.23 | This is so fucking funny well done | Havey
07.03.23 | as a fellow public laughingstock i really feel for, and will continue to defend the reputation of, pachelback (good one phil | Havey
07.03.23 | i will even say that if tosmok switches his 5 out for the hexachordum apollinis, i will personally take him under my wing, teach him the ways of baroque | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | if havey 5s canon i will consider his opinions as of somewhat worthy note ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | JohnnyoftheWell
07.03.23 | Smok can you give me a quick review for each of Pon's classical 5s
not saying this is gonna help your case, but | pizzamachine
07.03.23 | Good list | porcupinetheater
07.03.23 | Be the defeated sanity you wish to see in the world | ToSmokMuzyki
07.03.23 | challenge accepted | JohnnyoftheWell
07.04.23 | be faster!
Demon thank you for the idea - doing exactly the opposite this round seems to have worked out for smok | ToSmokMuzyki
07.04.23 | u cant rush 2 hrs of latin choral singing | ToSmokMuzyki
07.04.23 | >suggests either an indifference to anything resembling contemporary relevance
i have 39 different versions i actively listen to ranging from as tight to the original as possible to dubstep | PotsyTater
07.04.23 | Tosmok ur a fuckin funny dude m8 | ToSmokMuzyki
07.04.23 | so pon only has 3 classical 5s this is what i got:
Carlo Gesualdo Tenebrae Responsoria Explain Your Album Rating 3.0
a man can only take so much latin choral singing. still its peaceful, and if pretending to be at mass on a medieval sunday is your kink, you wont find a better escape than this
Giacinto Scelsi Natura Renovatur Explain Your Album Rating 2.0
bullshit b horror movie filmscore music?
Dietrich Buxtehude Membra Jesu Nostri, BuxWV 75 Explain Your Album Rating 2.5
extremely boring cantatas, only the sonatas are worth listening to | Demon of the Fall
07.04.23 | 'DEMON OF THE FALL forced my hand boy I cannot wait to see him up here'
I wanted a promotion contender, not a demotion!
and I started updating my 5s way too long ago, the time is nigh for making life's toughest decisions. Then I'm ready to run the gauntlet
| Havey
07.04.23 | those classical 5s are actually p refreshing
what you see a lot is that people who are into 20th century classical also dig pre-baroque music but avoid the stuff in between
so the scelsi/gesualdo combo would've been a bit clichéd if not balanced out by the bux
respect the bux | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | fantastical analysis
ironic about all this hubbub when even u @ 8600 rates only have 1 class 5 in beety's late quartets for some reason tho | Havey
07.05.23 | hello yes most true 5s don't exist on sput this is not newsworthy | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | so add them lol what | JohnnyoftheWell
07.05.23 | see sublist entry 1) in list entry 5, have you learnt nothing | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | evidently not | PotsyTater
07.05.23 | Real patricians listen to so much music that’s not in the Sputnik database that adding it all is an impossible task and they mostly don’t bother, congrats on the self filter Tosmok you basic | Storm In A Teacup
07.05.23 | A fun comment from potsy as usual but the words are extremely accurate. | Demon of the Fall
07.05.23 | I generally add complete dobbins so it’s nice to know there’s worthwhile shit that doesn’t get auto-added
having said that y’all are missing out on Tokyo Gakuso, so maybe I have a purpose? | Demon of the Fall
07.05.23 | Also, sometimes you do add a (eventual) 20/30 rating artist to the database, but then you realise your influence was a facade and just because you got there first doesn’t mean no-one noticed their existence etc. | Avagantamos
07.05.23 | avagantamos vs who? | Ryus
07.05.23 | me vs flug | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | damn guess im setting a record for adding things then | Havey
07.05.23 | i have added/edited 3342 albums which is 38% of my rating count
you have added/edited 347 albums which is 9% of your rating count
basic AND lazy, then | Havey
07.05.23 | but yeah the past 5 years or so i'm only adding stuff if i want it for a list, keeping ratings up to date is unsustainable
probably time to make a new list... | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | you really have issues if you think thats a flex | Demon of the Fall
07.05.23 | some ducker keeps neging my 3 reviews apparently (thanks for the reminder), but how does one one obtain edit / add % | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | with the amount of classical irreverently missing from the db i could have well over my ratings in a couple weeks should i feel like it lmao
not to mention the tens of thousands of bands i could just steal from metal archives
its unsustainable to add a few 5s...? | Havey
07.05.23 | @demon you need at least 1 in each stat, so I'm guessing you have 0 news articles
@smok saying you're "setting a record" when you haven't contributed shit yet is very funny. that's comedy, not a flex - honestly i think higher numbers are more embarrassing than anything
it's unsustainable to add just a few 5s yes that's exactly what i said, good job parsing! | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | lmao it was sarcasm you condescending stick up the ass. voivod alone kicks everyones ass in that regard
you literally wasted no time pointing out how many more edits you have than me, going out of your way to calculate the ratio to ratings. we call that a flex. congratz on spending more time copypasting basic info
so 3300 album edits is sustainable just the ones you consider 5s are not? havey logic | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | voivod 63080 album edits to 2271 ratings = 2778% of his rating count
where is your god now bitch | Pon
07.05.23 | What in the good gosh darn | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | this all happened bc i 2d pig destroyer im just as flabbed as u are | Havey
07.05.23 | this list is a win for everyone if it gets jon listening to ygghur
inshallah | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | its already in his 5s he just hasnt rated it yet
kol ha-neshamah | PotsyTater
07.05.23 | Lmao Tosmok getting fucking obliterated in the chat | Emim
07.05.23 | Didn't know Jac turned into Pon | PotsyTater
07.05.23 | We need a comprehensive username change list | Ryus
07.05.23 | just get it right the first time smh | Emim
07.05.23 | Yeah I miss silentpotato. Wonder where he went | PotsyTater
07.05.23 | Who dat | ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.23 | whatever they say tell them i pee on them
cowards | ramon.
07.06.23 | wellness check | PotsyTater
07.06.23 | Lol | sixdegrees
07.07.23 | total smok victory. | parksungjoon
07.15.23 | curious that u call out peste noire but not pure - fetor
or maybe its cuz the latter is better idk | Havey
07.22.23 | it's johnny's time to review the classical 5s, but does he got that dog in him | JohnnyoftheWell
07.22.23 | you are right ugh
"curious that u call out peste noire but not pure"
maybe because that band has absolutely nothing to do with this list and i have never heard of them | DadKungFu
07.22.23 | If Johnny’s up for it, doing a classical month could be really cool, prob too time consuming though | Havey
07.22.23 | with our guidance it will be a lot of fun - time consuming how? i imagine it's one thing per day just like any other johnnymonth | DadKungFu
07.22.23 | Fair fair, if it were to be a week of like Turangalila and Lohengrin I could see it getting exhausting though | ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.23 | eh do a few things from each genre, an opera here, a symphony there, plenty of concertos etc | Havey
07.22.23 | nah skip opera
skip symphonies and concertos even (1 of each i'd accept, but they wouldn't be my recs) | parksungjoon
07.22.23 | >maybe because that band has absolutely nothing to do with this list and i have never heard of them
pure fetor is a great power electronics album by known uk nazi matt bower
pon gave it a 5 review | ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.23 | if u want to load him with a bunch of modern experiemental bullshit then u have to include the likes of yngwie, galneryus and edenbridge as well | Havey
07.22.23 | what | ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.23 | ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°) | Ryus
07.22.23 | i think johnny would prefer to avoid the absolute bottom tier of music | ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.23 | why he delves 100 feet deep everyday
ba dum tish | JohnnyoftheWell
07.24.23 | okay it is time for progress
TWO ROUNDS LEFT IT IS A CLOSE RACE | Havey
07.25.23 | can we get tosmok to cover pachelbel's canon for Sputmix 2023 | ToSmokMuzyki
07.25.23 | you can get me to cover your mom ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | Minortimbo12
09.02.23 | unfunny joke | MarsKid
09.02.23 | the real Pachelbel are the friends we made along the way | ToSmokMuzyki
10.16.23 | i have a proper 5 list now redo this immediate | pizzamachine
10.16.23 | To Smok or not to Smok | Demon of the Fall
10.17.23 | yeah, but those updates would most likely hurt more than they'll help | ToSmokMuzyki
10.17.23 | excuse me
also this is a tie so |
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