BullettoBinary2
02.21.17 | I have the Audio Technica LP120 with Pioneer SP-BS22 speakers and i have no complaints. Great budget setup, and my receiver allows me to play CDs through an external portable CD player. I have also heard the U-Turn Orbit is a good budget turntable but i dont know much about it. |
danielito19
02.21.17 | I've had good experiences with Audiotechnica, an ex roommate had an expensive one and it was great, I have a cheap one and it's pretty good. |
dbizzles
02.21.17 | I don't know what model mine is, but I have an Audio Technica w/ Bluetooth that I love. All of my music has been formatted digitally so I don't play CDs ever unless I'm in my car. |
wham49
02.21.17 | it all depends on what you are after, if you want the convienence, get something from the early 90, that would be the best sounding turntable, cd player combo. otherwise a later model turntable /receiver set up should have a port to plug in a cd, player, that is what I would do, put the receiver turntable on top of the cd player, and it will take up the same amount of space |
wham49
02.21.17 | older sony, pioneer, technics, all should be pretty resonable |
WhatKeepsMeHere
02.21.17 | What's the external portable cd player? I was literally looking at the LP120 with Pioneer speakers yesterday. I was pretty dead set on an all-in-one at first because I liked the retro aesthetics, but would much rather have a modern turntable that doesn't have speed issues. I also saw the U-Turn Orbit come up in my searches a bit and it does seem cool to customize color and such. |
kris.
02.21.17 | i've got an Onkyo CP-1050 hooked up to a Harman Kardon HK3770 and some old Polk tower speakers that sound fantastic. honestly you don't have to pay that much for a decent setup if you take the effort to look around, though. check like goodwill spots for older turntables that are in decent condition, grab some bookend speakers and a cheap receiver off amazon or something. there's a vinyl subreddit that has a nice guide for building a nice cheap-ish set.
also avoid those all in ones like the plague. they sound fucking horrible. |
AsleepInTheBack
02.21.17 | I've got a Rega RP1, good starting player that is fairly high quality and inexpensive for what you get |
WhatKeepsMeHere
02.21.17 | I don't mind putting a little "work" in, so the all-in-one at 250$ seems like a waste if I could get a quality entry-level setup for 300-350$ |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | Don't do combo. You'll get something much better if you pick and choose each component. My rec is look at thrift stores/craigslist/etc, google absolutely everything (lots of forums about audio gear will help you figure out what's good and what to avoid) and wit h a bit of effort and patience you'll find something great without breaking the bank too much. The TT and receiver should be where most of your budget goes. CD players can be bought for dirt cheap nowadays |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | Technics TTs have treated me so well. Audio Technica is good too
like i think someone else said, dont get an all-in-one. just get a TT and a good receiver (sony or something). then you can get a CD player to hookup to the receiver someday. cutting corners usually just ends with two more corners |
wham49
02.21.17 | the problem with a modern turntable is a good one is pretty decent money, I gues you could get one and plug into a cd/receiver combo, I did that for a while, I would look for a good old Pioneer, from the late 70's early 80's always were good for me |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | got myself a decent pioneer TT (PL-255 if my memory serves) for $30. Took a couple of weeks of scouring and searching but so worth it |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | 70s-early 90s TTs are the best for the price |
wham49
02.21.17 | scream the prob with thrift stores is you need to be prepared to have the soodering redone, I have on plenty, but there are many issues usually with those, find great stuff, but usually need to be cleaned and reworked a little |
wham49
02.21.17 | if you go old, whatever you do test it out before the purchase, let it get warm before because they might work for a few minutes then get warm and the problems come out, crackling, or sound increase decreases, many of these things can be fixed kinda cheap by getting it cleaned or resoodered or something, just need to find somebody who does it |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | If its cheap or if the store allows you to return defective goods then it isn't too much of a risk. Worst case you can usually sell if for parts/repairs and recoup a bit (if not all) of your investment. My knowledge of electronics is pretty limited (nearly non-existent) but stuff like cleaning hasn't been much trouble either. Mostly just spraying Deoxit on the connections and that solves a surprising amount of issues haha |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | Mine was bought through kijiji (equivalent of craigslist) and same with the one I'd gotten my ex (gf at the time) and both times the guys turned them on and ran them for a bit before I paid and left. It was a bit of a risk because they weren't plugged into speakers but I took a chance and it worked out. People tend to be honest and you'd have to be unlucky to fall on a douche trying to pull a fast one on there I think |
WhatKeepsMeHere
02.21.17 | If I'm avoiding combos, which it now seems like I am after I had some sense knocked into me, I'm going to just go with new stuff or relatively new because of my inexperience and lack of knowledge. I know some of you are saying I can find a good deal at a thrift store, but there aren't many options in my area that aren't shady businesses. I'm mostly going to look online and buying used online is always hit or miss. I'll check ebay for items in like new condition or very good, but nothing less than that just to be safe. Any other sites that could be better for used stuff? Amazon seems like the obvious option for brand new gear |
grannypantys
02.21.17 | I have an all in one because it is the only thing i own that can play tapes. But you have to get a real record player as well if you want to minimize damage to your records and actually be able to take advantage of the sound quality a well pressed record provides. |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | @WhatKeepsMe have you tried asking relatves/friends/etc if they have any turn tables collecting dust theyd be willing to sell you. definitely worth asking, its not like theyre rare, esp among people 30 years old+ |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | Nothing wrong with going the new option but, as others have said, if you want something good it can get very expensive. If you go cheap, sound quality will suffer and you risk damaging your records |
kris.
02.21.17 | might wanna look at estate auctions, too. my dad monitors them pretty often and dece gear pops up every now and then for dirt cheap. |
WhatKeepsMeHere
02.21.17 | I'm turning 30 this year and the only people I've met with records are my parents. They had a nice turntable for a good portion of my childhood, but after it shit the bed they bought one of those 99$ Christmas gifts from Target. I could ask around, though. Just to make sure :) |
bloc
02.21.17 | Just get the popular Audio Technica one, no need to be a snob.
I bought it last Christmas for my gf and it works great and is easy to use. |
hobblepot
02.21.17 | I have the audiotechnica LP120, with some cheap logitech speakers, sound is pristine, possibly the best turntable you can get on a budget price. If someone tells you their player plays the records too fast, either the player is shite, of the people who own it don't know how to work it or adjust the speed. However vinyl is a game of luck, even if you have an amazing player, if you buy a shit pressing, it'll still sound bad. But I highly recommend you the audiotechnica LP120, sound quality is amazing, and has a line out option so no need for a pre-amp, sounds perfect even on my shitty £50 speakers |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | @what definitely ask around! if you're 30 im sure someone you know has a working one! |
wham49
02.21.17 | if you have a "record" store, ask the guys that work there, I am sure they always talk to collectors, and we always have extra stuff, I'd sell you one of mine if you were around |
DominionMM1
02.21.17 | I'd use craigslist if possible. That way you can actually test the stuff before you buy. |
SCREAM!
02.21.17 | "Just get the popular Audio Technica one, no need to be a snob."
Because wanting to get something decent for your money makes you a snob now?
If you mean the LP120 then that one seems alright but if you mean the LP60 then yeah, no, don't get that. |
Avagantamos
02.21.17 | "The reason I want an all-in-one is to play cds out of something other than my game console or laptop."
get a car :] |
Satellite
02.21.17 | my car has a record player |
Avagantamos
02.21.17 | it's really fun cruising around to three 6 mafia mixtapes |
Avagantamos
02.21.17 | I'm very pleased with my LP120 |
Satellite
02.21.17 | "I'm turning 30 this year and the only people I've met with records are my parents."
that's odd. i'm 30 and most of my friends own records. |
Chortles
02.21.17 | i have an all in one player, it's not amazing but not bad and it's quite convenient. i wouldn't have bought it on my own tho (received as a gift) |
WhatKeepsMeHere
02.21.17 | Yeah, now that I think about it I know two couples that have records, but either use a Crosley or a similar option. I don't have a shit ton of friends either and the ones that I do have aren't interested in music enough to buy records. |
Sinternet
02.21.17 | yeah i got one of those all-in-one ones as a gift, not bad but i want to upgrade in the future
get some roth oli ra1 speakers as well, best budget speakers i've ever heard |
Spec
02.21.17 | yeah but my receiver is busted and i don't want to get a new one because it was my moms first big purchase when she was little |
Nazzadan
02.21.17 | I have a Sony PSLX300 and it seems fine. I'm moreso into the actual collecting than the record player quality though so for all I know it sucks |
Frippertronics
02.21.17 | I recently got a Technics SL-23, which was one of the two first belt drive turntables Technics put out, in 1976. Was fitted with a new audio technica cartridge before I purchased it, and it sounds great. |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | nice frip, Technics for life |
TheSpaceMan
02.21.17 | I also have a technics TT with a audio technica cartridge. perfect combo for quality/price |
Dinosaur
02.21.17 | LP120 has been a great investment for my needs. |
50iL
02.21.17 | Idk I was forced to buy the LP60 cuz I was on a really tight budget and it's worked great for my needs. I'm aware it's not the greatest but it does suffice and gives a good sound as well.
I don't suggest an all-in-one turntable tho. Just listen to your CD through your computer and you'll be ok ;) |
Maniac!
02.22.17 | I love Audio Technica products
But this is what I have my eye on:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F9NE75Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1H0ELH9FSZOGU&coliid=I1D8ZCFJ5Q7BZF&psc=1 |
bakkermaarten007
02.22.17 | Whatever you do, make sure that you have a separate receiver and record player.
Normally the order of importance is as follows: headphones/speakers>receiver>turntable |
GeorgeWBush
02.22.17 | I have a Technics Dual 1209. I don't know that much about turntables in general, but it sounds fantastic, and I'm pretty sure it's not too expensive. |
ButteryBiscuitBass
02.22.17 | I broke mine pissed last weekend, am in the market too |
wham49
02.22.17 | reorder of importance,
receiver, turntable, speakers
anybody between milwaukee and chicago, I always have receivers and turntables for sale, just let me know |
Titan
02.22.17 | damn tough call whambro and the ongoing dilemma in terms of sound quality......as critical as all 3 are, everything I've learned and/or read for 'audiophile' quality was that receiver and speakers are always the priority.....but hell you gotta have a good table as well |
SCREAM!
02.22.17 | I'd put receivers and speakers at 1 and 2 as well just because they relate to the system as a whole (ie everything runs through them whether its the TT, cd player, an aux plug for your ipod, etc)
But in the end, the sound quality you get is only as good as the weakest link in the chain so it's all important |
Titan
02.22.17 | your last sentence couldn't be more spot on SCREAM! |
wham49
02.22.17 | bad table equals ruined records, and speakers are a choice I think, it all depends on sonic boom, how much noise do you want, determines how good they have to be, If you just want bachground music, any descent brand will do the job, I gues the same with the receiver, have used many different combos over the years
how about this, there is no order of importance, the quality of the components is related to the needs of the user, I rock a 72 Marantz reciever restored, a 79 marantz table, a pair of 73 sony cabinets and a pair of 98 polk audio cabinets, I have used smaller and less expensive speakers and I think the biggest difference was the different receiver, just my observation |
Titan
02.22.17 | i need a new table...i currently listen through:
Yamaha RX-V1065
Oppo BDP83 (CD / Blu Ray)
Definitive Technology Mythos ST-L Super Towers https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/mythos-st-l-supertower
these speakers were THE game changer for me |
wham49
02.22.17 | what year is that table? I think lae 70's early 80's are the best or the brand new niche ones that run around 1500. I have a coworker who is a big audiophile, has about a 4000 dollar stereo that he listens to classical on, I always ask if I can bring some thrash to spin, just to see if it is worth it |
SCREAM!
02.22.17 | I'm torn between upgrading my speakers or receiver first but I'm leaning speakers as they're only little bookshelf ones (they sound great and work well in my apartment but they sometimes suffer a little on the odd occasion where I turn them up a little too loud).
Speakers: JBL J-216
Receiver: Sherwood S-7100A
TT: Pioneer PL-255 |
Titan
02.22.17 | i dont have a record player hooked up at the moment, but i do have an AT-LP120, my weakest link for sure
also, the genre's we enjoy the most hurt us from an audiophile standpoint....thrash doesn't breathe haha |
wham49
02.22.17 | he just laughs, although prog, or zep or who would sound great, Motorhead def. sounds better on good stuff, gives it alittle dimension |
wham49
02.22.17 | scream, I always liked the pioneer stuff, had all until I got my Marantz |
Titan
02.22.17 | every one knows rock related music offers the least from an audiophile quality standpoint |
Pajolero
02.22.17 | My girl got me an Audio-Technica PL60 for my birthday a couple of weeks ago. I don't have any speakers at the moment so I've yet to try it out, but I've heard good things about it. |
Titan
02.22.17 | and no one even mentioned the #1 rule |
SCREAM!
02.22.17 | "scream, I always liked the pioneer stuff, had all until I got my Marantz"
I'm still pretty content with the TT. Both the receiver and speakers are more on the low output side of things so I'd like to upgrade those first (likely starting with speakers). Kind of regret passing up on a nice looking Realistic receiver a while back now |
wham49
02.22.17 | low output is fine, and sounds good as long, as you don't have to fill a big , room my pioneer was the same and sounded good and warm, but bought a house and have to needed more sound |
bakkermaarten007
02.22.17 | "reorder of importance,
receiver, turntable, speakers"
I guess we'll agree to disagree. But in no way should speakers be the last...,
Sure this isn't hard science or anything, though as an example (my case): I've spent 350$ (they normally cost $700) on headphones, 250$ on receiver and 200$ on a turntable. And the sound I get is fabulous. First thing to upgrade later on is my power cable as these can influence sound 'purity' . |
StrikeOfTheBeast
02.22.17 | I had one, but that damn car registration stole it though... |
wham49
02.23.17 | agree bakker, but headphones should not be first plus these are meant to fill a room, not just headphones, but that is my personal preference, never got into listening on headphones, I lose the dexterity and feel for it when i'm on headphones |
SCREAM!
02.23.17 | "agree bakker, but headphones should not be first plus these are meant to fill a room, not just headphones, but that is my personal preference, never got into listening on headphones, I lose the dexterity and feel for it when i'm on headphones"
To be fair, in his original comment he put headphones/speakers first |
wham49
02.23.17 | that is what I was referencing, and I would imagine if you are a headphone user, you would want to put money into them because I'm guessing most are pretty crappy |
Lavair
02.23.17 | I have a Numark, which I really like. It's made of aluminum, and it needs to be hooked up to external speakers so the record can be heard properly. Pro: It has an adjustable slider, which can play a record either 10% faster or 10% slower. All the records I put on there need to be played about 3% slower, so the slider lets that happen. Con: The Numark doesn't even have the option to play something at 75 RPM, but it can still play 33 and 45 easily. |
DominionMM1
02.23.17 | "Normally the order of importance is as follows: headphones/speakers>receiver>turntable"
the cartridge is vital man. if it's trashed or low quality it doesn't matter what kind of speakers or receiver you have
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SCREAM!
02.23.17 | It's not audiophile quality obvs but the AT95E is a pretty solid cart that you can get for cheap (and I'm sure there are other comparable ones as well) so I guess that's why people are skipping over that. Been using that one since I got my tt although I might upgrade to a Nagaoka MP-110 |
DominionMM1
02.23.17 | need to get a new cart for my b&o but it's gonna cost a fuckton |
wham49
02.23.17 | good point Dom, usually most of the cost of the table, good for quality and preserving records |