ArsMoriendi: NEW WAVE TAG SUGGESTION BOX

ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Noise, djent, deathcore, britpop, and synthpop are all here wonder where trap and vaporwave are, thought those were also promised, maybe I'm misremembering?
Demon of the Fall 01.13.23	hasn't britpop been on the site since forever? yeah, I thought trap made the cut
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Crap maybe you're right, it just seems new lmao
Cimnele 01.13.23	agreed with new wave needing inclusion! (i'm way more into the stuff from this period that ain't new wave, excepting DEVO's early stuff)
JohnnyoftheWell 01.13.23	add New Order add Bowie add The Cure add The Sound
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	btw darkwave = synthpop + gothic imo so that's my justification for Depeche
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	"add New Order add Bowie add The Cure add The Sound" What should their dropped tags be in your opinion
JohnnyoftheWell 01.13.23	pop either experimental or post punk alternative rock (Gothic, Post Punk and New Wave is the Cure down to a tee) alternative rock not that it rly matters for upvoting one genre
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Oh, no this was to help the mods to know which to delete as well
JohnnyoftheWell 01.13.23	ohhh fair gotcha
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	singer-songwriter
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Oh this list is just for new wave Ghandhi, the already implemented tag
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	huh
Sharenge 01.13.23	don't tell me what to do
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	is there a blog post
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	What are some key ones I'm missing? Or obscure ones Tell me what tags should go away from the artist too so users/mods/etc know what to replace
SteakByrnes 01.13.23	Just came to post Tears for Fears but already here with the suggestion I was gonna say lol nice
Sharenge 01.13.23	what was the best new wave album of 2022?
SomeCallMeTim 01.13.23	I know this won't happen but the tag / genre system needs to be updated. Lot's of albums by bands tagged with a genre that have nothing to do with that genre that show up on genre searches
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	^definitely ill dump a lot later ars
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Cool, when you do make sure to tell me what genre tag to drop incase I have them pre-tagged myself
Mort. 01.13.23	great idea for a list ars, thanks
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	XTC should have pop rock instead of psych or pop. I'll continuously add artists below.
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	Wall of Voodoo - Basically all the other tags except for post-punk are wrong Stan Ridgway - Should be New Wave and Synthpop Ultravox - POST PUNK, NEW WAVE, SYNTHPOP Television - for "Adventure" / lol get prog rock out The Flying Lizards - Get experimental out / also how tf does their s/t only have 10 ratings The Waitresses - get post-punk out The Clash - remove ska ABC - New Wave, Synthpop P-Model - New Wave, Synthpop / vote post-punk as well probably The Pretenders - should just be new wave and pop rock Marianne Faithfull - Broken English is new wave so Dexys Midnight Runners - Soul new wave pop rock The Associates Aztec Camera Simple Minds - pop rock new wave post-punk The Stranglers - prog rock out Soft Cell - synthpop / new wave
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Psych is kind of important for XTC since Skylarking is their acclaimed album that's basically "The Beatles in the 80s"
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	sure but they have more pop rock, post-punk and new wave albums
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	Also why does Oingo Boingo have ska? lol mr bungle effect
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	I believe Only a Lad is part of the 2nd wave "new wave" ska scene called 2 Tone, though since it's just 1 album that could be cause for removal over experimental? I feel like no one ever talks about 2nd wave ska even through it's lightyears better than 3rd wave so I left it lol
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	Not many songs on that album are even ska influenced tbh. Mainly "controller", "Nasty Habits" and "Imposter". And all of them would look out of place in a classic ska playlist
Mort. 01.13.23	japan?
gschwen 01.13.23	Oingo should be: New Wave, Alternative Rock, Synthpop
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	def not alt rock. What album did they go synthpop on?
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Hmm i'll do synthpop but idk about alt rock
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	done dumping artists, also japan [2]
gschwen 01.13.23	>What album did they go synthpop on? Boi-ngo for sure
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	ah it should probably overtake ska then
gschwen 01.13.23	i mean. looking back at their back catalog and reading about them (I'm not familiar with early OB) but Ars mentioned it: they were a 2-tone ska band at that point. Hard band to pin down. Did a lot of things well.
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	Check their debut. It's probably not as ska as you'd think / remembered.
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Added all of the Ghandhi dump :)
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Okayâ€¦ now what about modern new wave? Does LCD Soundsystem fit? Theyâ€™re tagged alt rock and probably shouldnâ€™t be hmmm
mryrtmrnfoxxxy 01.13.23	post-punk sucks now i only liked blondie
GhandhiLion 01.13.23	King
Mort. 01.13.23	pretty unknown band (on sput) called 'Ou est le swimming pool' who i think should have the new wave and synthpop tags
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Added mort, and I decide LCD is so Talking Heads inspire they prob deserve new wave too
Jasdevi087 01.13.23	fuck my post-punk slice is gonna die lmao
Jasdevi087 01.13.23	new wave + drop post-punk for Buck-Tick
Jasdevi087 01.13.23	also new wave + drop post punk for 'Til Tuesday
Jasdevi087 01.13.23	fuck we're forgetting the human league boys
ArsMoriendi 01.13.23	Why is The Human League tagged indie pop? weird
sonictheplumber 01.14.23	you can tell this site was made in 2005 cause they took care of melodic death metal and post-hardcore but nothin else lol i do give deviant some credit for being adamant that bleep bloop laptop artist #35545459498549548 is actually "breaksgrip" or "post-slowbeat" but we cant even get a genre tag for zeuhl smh
sonictheplumber 01.14.23	hell i bet this site has blackgaze too lol buncha wimps
sonictheplumber 01.14.23	hell as fucked up as the modern landscape is im surprised theres not a genre tag called "dad rock" or "boomercore"
JohnnyoftheWell 01.14.23	cope harder Buck-Tick and LCD Soundsystem being on this list is kinda sketch, not convinced new wave represents either as a whole
sonictheplumber 01.14.23	lcd soundsystem is soft rock
sonictheplumber 01.14.23	actually all 90s radio alt rock crap is soft rock. or child rock
ArsMoriendi 01.14.23	Calling LCD Soundsystem soft rock is kinda bizarre, itâ€™s not like itâ€™s all cheesy slow ballads or something Also they didnâ€™t start til 2005, so 90s doesnâ€™t work either
ArsMoriendi 01.14.23	As for johnnys comment: I feel like it works better than alt rock since theyâ€™re basically Talking Heads/Bowie/80s dance music worship stuff, at least as a tertiary tag
sonictheplumber 01.15.23	ive never even heard em lol. but yeah man i know lots of 2005 new wave! my bad
sonictheplumber 01.15.23	maybe i was thinking of ben folds or something idk
ArsMoriendi 01.15.23	Oh very different I'd say this is their signature song if you're curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0_YRgZrEQ
SteakByrnes 01.18.23	how about Yellow Magic Orchestra
ArsMoriendi 01.18.23	I have them under synthpop, but I donâ€™t think theyâ€™re new wave per se
SteakByrnes 01.18.23	Probably more accurate, I'm just getting into them and noticed two of their albums had new wave secondaries on RYM so just wanted to get some perspective on that
SharkTooth 01.21.23	The The needs a new wave tag, drop experimental and The Jam, drop punk Soda Stereo, drop rock Sumo, drop alt rock Kajagoogoo, drop pop Men Without Hats, drop pop Frankie Goes To Hollywood, drop pop
foxblood 01.21.23	thanks for doing this, I'm sure new wave would be in my pie if it was all properly labelled
ArsMoriendi 01.22.23	@Shark RYM compels me to drop post punk actually for The Jam since they're described as punk, new wave, and power pop first
ArsMoriendi 01.22.23	OMFG I FORGOT BILLY IDOL
SharkTooth 01.22.23	INXS should also get its pop tag dropped and replaced with new wave
ArsMoriendi 01.22.23	Done! Remember to tag all of these if you can :)
SlothcoreSam 01.25.23	Nice list, gonna check em all
sonictheplumber 01.25.23	what makes frankie goes to hollywood or inxs NOT pop? a lot of people think pop is a derogatory term but that shits definitely good pop music to me
ArsMoriendi 01.26.23	New Wave is a type of pop, so it's more about overlap Just like synthpop is a type of electronic music...and also pop haha
sonictheplumber 01.26.23	ah so itd be like having "metal" and "heavy metal" as genre tags on the same band
sonictheplumber 01.26.23	or putting "rock" as a genre tag on any guitar-based music
ArsMoriendi 01.26.23	Exactly, like even the rockiest bands here (like the Police/The Clash etc) are still often very pop (Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic and Rock the Casbah being some blatant examples)