MarsKid: MarsBro's NFL Ranking: Week 12

MarsKid 11.23.22	Here we go again! In progress...
tyman128 11.23.22	guess what this is our week
AlexKzillion 11.23.22	lmao is sam darnold actually starting????? prob my biggest personal draft "miss"... i thought the world of him coming out of college
MarsKid 11.23.22	No lie, Darnold indeed got the starting nod. Zach Wilson also just got benched. Prepare for MIKE WHITE.
MarsKid 11.23.22	Still need to fill in details, but full rankings are done! Find your team, read it, weep, complain, cheer etc.
mrdogthrow 11.24.22	9ers looking like a scary af team rn go hawks
tyman128 11.24.22	"I don’t think you even said that the one week you won" because I didn't believe then... we have Kyle Allen the GOAT in now
DominionMM1 11.24.22	“Zach Wilson also just got benched. Prepare for MIKE WHITE“ it literally can’t get worse than wilson. not sure about the exact number but the jets had less than 10 net yards in the 2nd half last week if we don’t include accepted penalties. the dude is a trainwreck unto himself.
Manatea 11.24.22	TITAN UP. Mars I can’t say you’ve converted me. But I’m with you for the rest of this season at least lol
MarsKid 11.24.22	Wilson did own up to his mistakes, which is good forward progress. He's got to adjust his attitude and accept coaching, but at least he's making amends. Bengals likely will have Chase healthy, and we will likely have most of our defensive starters healthy. Gonna be a slug fest.
Demon of the Fall 11.24.22	is this the place to ask whether to start Dak, Kyler or Geno in fantasy this week, or should I drop that it my local DGD thread? lol (I forget which one) Bills at #7 seems wild, but not entirely without justification. They certainly don't look to be the force they were.
rhinocerosmilk 11.24.22	The day the browns win in Ohio the citizens will have such high moral they will quickly transform it into a paradise.
Hyperion1001 11.24.22	Go giants
Titan 11.25.22	‘BOYS >
MarsKid 11.25.22	That Giants roster is just not built to sustain a season long-term, Cowboys just outmatched them in every regard.
MarsKid 11.25.22	Pats really let that one get away, eh
Hyperion1001 11.25.22	the lions are truly cursed it’s unreal.
unclereich 11.28.22	raiiiiiiderrrrrrrrrsss
tyman128 11.28.22	Texans for the super bowl fr
Ecnalzen 11.28.22	The Lions kinda sucks still but they have been sucking significantly less recently and I'm all for it Go Chiefs! Also, this Eagles Packers game tonight has been all over the place so far. Good stuff. I thought Packers were gonna get steamrolled after the 13 nothing within first couple minutes but they have been putting up a fight
unclereich 11.28.22	stoked to see where Rodgers gets traded too
iambandersnatch 11.28.22	Mostly agree, although I'd nitpick a few things. I'm surprised you think 8 is possibly too high for the vikings even though they have one of the best records in the NFL. They had 1 terrible game against the cowboys but other than that they're a top 5 team. You probably jumped ship from the Jets too fast, but hindsight is 20/20 Also think you need to decide whether this is a "how good are they right now?" or "how good is the team actually when they're playing their best ball and/or how good of a chance do they have to make a deep playoff run" because some of these rankings seem like trendy right-now rankings and others seem like hopeful "this team has potential to be way better once they get it together" rankings. For instance if we're doing potential, then the Bills should be way higher. But then, it seems like with the 49ers we ARE doing potential, with them ranked all the way at 4 despite being only 7-4 and their 4 game winning streak being against 4 struggling teams (rams/chargers/cardinals/saints), the last real team they faced they got shellacked (granted it was the chiefs, but still).
AlexKzillion 11.28.22	yeah i don't trust the vikings until proven otherwise... big paper tiger energy on the other hand... i trust the niners because despite jimmy g's shortcomings they consistently make deep playoff runs... and i trust the cowboys because they're an elite team by the majority of metrics and are doing it in a conventional(sustainable) way the vikings may be 9-2 but by most advanced metrics they're a perfectly average team. they remind me a lot of the 11-0 steelers from a couple years ago that were also very obviously not as good as their record indicated. i think #8 was perfect for them (and still is for this week too, would prob just swap the ravens for the bengals) i'm still slightly on the fence with the eagles. they are undoubtedly an elite team but do it in a way less conventional way than say the cowboys or the chiefs and have played one of the easiest schedules in the league. interested to see how their offense translates to the playoffs. just seen the lamar jackson ravens offense shit the bed so many times (tho i don't think the eagles are nearly as gimmicky)
MarsKid 11.28.22	I kinda value both at the same time @iamband. I find the Niners have a lot of potential and positive momentum, whereas the Bills have stumbled through the past few weeks and shown that their potential was perhaps overstated. Allen is struggling and is also injured, Von Miller may miss significant time, and the offensive weapons have been, outside of Diggs, somewhat underwhelming (i.e. Davis having a horrendous drop rate). I think they've been overrated because of their roster's possibilities, but they need to capitalize more before I reconsider them as a SB contender. Vikes have won ugly and when they lose, they lose bad, and both were against contenders (Dallas and Philly). Bills game was a good win for them that I vastly overrated, when really it spoke more about Buffalo's failure to execute and lack of clutch factor. Which isn't to say Minnesota is bad, but they aren't convincing me strongly that they're going deep this year. Chicago's secondary is their weakest asset, I imagine even Wilson would have put up decent numbers. Their best weapon (Fields) was also out of commission, so I'm not putting much stock into that game. That being said, I fully acknowledge the inconsistencies this can have week-to-week because my biases can come into play pretty hardcore, no denying that lol. But I will try to improve on that!
AlexKzillion 11.28.22	yeah bills have been quietly reeling for a month now and i def share mars' concerns kc and miami staying strong... tennessee doing their thing (yesterday's loss aside)... baltimore blows another lead similar to last year, it seems cincinnati is getting hot at just the right time really excited for the playoffs
MarsKid 11.28.22	Titans are great at winning against teams below them, we are hopeless against about 1/2 the rest of the league. We lose first round, season's a loss already. Book it.
DominionMM1 11.28.22	tall order. their remaining schedule isn’t super daunting but they’d likely have to beat cincy and/or baltimore. plus 4 of their last 6 are on the road.
MarsKid 11.28.22	Plus their QB is a serial sexual assaulter who hasn't seen the field in over a year
AlexKzillion 11.28.22	http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine i tried to predict the rest of the season and got ravens / dolphins / chargers in the afc wild card spots, all at 11-6, with the jets and pats missing at 9-8, had browns at 8-9 (assuming watson is roughly 70% what he was in houston) afc wildcard hunt is about to be a blood bath and i think at least one team with a winning record misses the playoffs even despite the extra spot
MarsKid 11.28.22	What's equally wild right now is that the NFC East currently holds a playoff spot for each team. With Seattle's loss, Washington has now slid into the race. If the season ended today, that entire division would go into the postseason.