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Gyromania 02.02.22	Hype
WatchItExplode 02.02.22	Going in almost totally blind. First game I've pre-ordered since dark souls 3 and those are probably the only two in the past decade. Gonna take a day off work.
AsleepInTheBack 02.02.22	Very hyped. I've avoided watching any network test content as didn't want to spoilers, though I've been very tempted to check it as my god it looks amazing.
mynameischan 02.02.22	I canceled my collectors edition preorder to save money but then my partner ordered it for me again. I am so excited and hope it arrives by release date
Slex 02.02.22	I've watched so so much gameplay lol
AsleepInTheBack 02.02.22	Just preordered it now as this list reminded me that Id forgotten do that lol
necropig 02.02.22	i'm going to coom and nut at the same time
SaveBandit 02.02.22	I have it pre-ordered and I've already taken the day off work lmao. Gonna totally geek out on release day and I can't fucking wait.
ParoXysm 02.02.22	It's probably going to take me seven years to beat this game.
Gyromania 02.02.22	Yo chan did you ever do the Sekiro dlc content stuff? I'm fighting the Inner boss variants atm and holy fuck they're hard
Gyromania 02.02.22	"Gonna take a day off work." Good man!
Gyromania 02.02.22	Lol I'll prob have it beat in like 4 days. I tend to obsess over FromSoft games when they come out, they're just so binge-worthy compared to most games. I envy those who have been avoiding spoilers. I hope I didn't have too much ruined for me but it looks like this is going to be a massive game. I just hope the PS4 can handle it without it looking like dogshit lol
AsleepInTheBack 02.02.22	If the ps4 can't hack it ima be sad man. Will be very jelly of those with the ps5 version either way.
Gyromania 02.02.22	I'm mostly worried I'm going to experience an amazing game that looks unpolished and has fewer assets, and it might affect my appreciation of it. Rly hoping that isn't the case, but I saw a side by side of the PS4 and PS5 and there's noticeably wayyy less vegetation in a grassy field. Like half the grass that appears in the PS5 version
mynameischan 02.02.22	Yeah I will randomly boot up Sekiro to do the boss gauntlets. That game is like comfort food to me at this point. I’ve only beaten Inner Isshin once though.
trilo 02.02.22	i know basically zero about this game other than its open world, which is exactly how i like fromsoft games. startin to get hype les go
Gyromania 02.02.22	Yeah same, I've poured a crazy amount of hours into it. Inner Isshin is nuts, I still haven't cracked that fight. Mastering Inner Genichiro felt so good, trying to work on Owl atm but damn his second phase is hard af
AsleepInTheBack 02.02.22	I've never beaten sekiro, sadly. Got about half way through it and gave up. Done DS1, DS2 and BB like 10 times, and working to finish DS3 before the ER launch. Sekiro tested my patience with ramming you into its specific playstyle, but I still loved what I played of it, between the frustration. Will probs go back to it after Elden Ring.
Prancer 02.02.22	I'm also joining those taking a day off work for this lol
mynameischan 02.02.22	And yes I am also off work that day. I sure hope my order comes in time otherwise I’ll be doubling up lol
EvoHavok 02.02.22	Super hyped. I thoroughly enjoyed the CNT and already have the game pre-ordered.
Gyromania 02.02.22	You guys playing on base PS4 as well?
EvoHavok 02.02.22	I played the test on PS4 Pro, but my main platform will be PC.
necropig 02.02.22	i'll be getting on ps5
Gyromania 02.02.22	How was the test, Havok?
EvoHavok 02.02.22	It was very fun with plenty of wow moments and it ran fine for the most part on the Pro. I just wish I had more time with it because I couldn't play during some of the sessions and I didn't rush or steamroll through the content, so I missed a few parts of it.
AsleepInTheBack 02.02.22	I'm stuck with a base ps4, hope it doesn't explode
Gyromania 02.02.22	And it looked good on a PS4? Would you say it ran better than Sekiro? So many frame drops in this game, hoping for a somewhat smooth experience on PS4. Or at least as smooth as one can expect with 30fps lol
EvoHavok 02.02.22	Ah sure, it still looks good on the older machines (the Pro has a higher resolution with reconstruction). I can't speak from personal experience in the case of Sekiro, since I only have it on PC, but you should watch the Digital Foundry videos for the technical aspects.
zakalwe 02.02.22	Just out of principle cos of how disappointed I was with Sekiro I’ve fucked it off
Gyromania 02.02.22	What about Sekiro was disappointing?
Gyromania 02.02.22	Havok: I've seen that foundry video, that's why I'm so worried about the reduced assets like way less grass and bushes etc. But if you say it looks good regardless, that's reassuring
EvoHavok 02.02.22	Of course it's not as pretty or refined as on the newer machines, but the difference definitely does not detract from the experience or immersion. Souls games have the advantage of a finely crafted art style that makes up for the technical limitations or hiccups, as long as there's still a solid baseline (XBox One's settings are way too low, but I consider base PS4 fine). If you think about Bloodborne, that game has plenty of outdated elements by today's standards, but it'll always be a gorgeous masterpiece (wouldn't mind a remaster or PC port at all, though).
mynameischan 02.02.22	I’m on ps5 luckily
zakalwe 02.02.22	@gyro I just found it very empty. It was lukewarm soulsbourne with new mechanics thrown in that I didn’t take to at all. The bosses were unsatisfying, the levelling up was gash and the desire to replay it virtually non existent. I forced myself through it twice to get to the final boss where I gave up on both occasions after a couple of goes. I just couldn’t be arsed.
WatchItExplode 02.02.22	I don't think anyone should worry about the performance on whatever machine they run it on. I'm sure it will be fine across the board, but at worst when we all get the next gen consoles it'll be like going from original dark souls 2 to scholar of the first sin
Gyromania 02.02.22	Strange take, I found the bosses to be the most mechanically complex they've ever made, and not rly even comparable to dark souls combat
WatchItExplode 02.02.22	No doubt. After defeating genichiro on my 50th or 60th or 70th attempt, I felt like my third eye opened. Only thing I would agree with is that limited build variety made me enjoy a replay less.
Anthracks 02.02.22	can't wait men. i took the week off of work, lol
mynameischan 02.02.22	Sekiro boss fights are the best thing ever. A boss rush mode was like my wet dream fulfilled
JohnnyoftheWell 02.02.22	aaaaaaaaa remembered this was happening the other day! and yes it is so real!! been avoiding all footage and interviews, really hope this is the one might go back to the sekiro gauntlets before it drops or, is anyone playing the new HZD?
Hyperion1001 02.02.22	cant play cause bad computer :'(
necropig 02.02.22	Just ordered mine, being a cheap bitch and ordered physical for £5 less, just hope it arrives on launch day I'll be passing on horizon for the minute as just finally finished zero dawn so burnt out having to pick berries and twigs all the time
Dewinged 02.02.22	Hyped to hell n back, haven't watched anything of the beta test, just the trailers. Give it to meeeee!!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.02.22	Not allowing myself to ruin gaming forever by playing this until I’ve at least finished my ps4 backlog. So been avoiding as much content as possible. And then I will get a ps5 and play new horizon zero dawn and demon souls before this as well. Finally I’ll play this and breath of the Wild 2 simultaneously and have an out of body experience so intense I touch gods willy. Then that’s it for games forever. Game over.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.02.22	“ took the week off of work” This is the way.
mynameischan 02.02.22	I think I’ll get forbidden west at launch to make the week until elden ring go a little faster
WatchItExplode 02.03.22	I was playing the great bioware trilogies to keep me occupied but I burned out halfway into Inquisition and haven't been able to start Mass effect 2 yet.
Gyromania 02.03.22	Lol potsy fr tho, this is prob going to ruin games for me. Bloodborne and Sekiro have already kinda done that. Chan: haha I was thinking the same thing. Wish I could afford it. I actually don't even know of that's available on PS4 tho now that I think of it. Would probably melt my console
Gyromania 02.03.22	Johnny: do it! The gauntlets are so good. Just remember: hesitation is defeat!
Pon 02.03.22	The gauntlets are great but absolutely brutal. Inner Owl and Inner Genichiro make the Demon of Hatred look like a bitch
Dewinged 02.03.22	I haven't tried any of the content they added to Sekiro, kind of got burnt getting the platinum and the lack of builds/fashion souls made it lose all replayability for me. Playing DS Remastered and DS3 these days.
mynameischan 02.03.22	I have actually found it really hard to go back to any of the dark souls games recently. I’m much more likely to boot up Sekiro or start another Bloodborne play through. I am so glad that they made Elden Ring instead of Dark Souls 4 even if the influence is obvious
Dewinged 02.03.22	yeah man, it totally looks like it could be DS4. I guess there was no way to stretch the DS1 lore anymore. Already the unkindled stuff in DS3 was a bit of a workaround.
Gyromania 02.03.22	Pon: haha yeah man. It's funny because in the gauntlets I can actually kill demon of hatred within a min or so and he seems easy af now Chan: same kind of. I think BB comes closest to that exhilarating combat, but I don't think bosses have ever been as rewarding to overcome as they are in Sekiro. Also how sick is that Shura skin? Just got that today. And I think those Sekiro influences have made their way into Elden Ring - I hear there's a hidden posture mechanic. Dewinged: The Sekiro gauntlets add additional skins, but the lack of fashion is a bit of a bummer. We should all form a fight club in DS3 and have some fun fuels in Irrithyl!
zaruyache 02.03.22	i just built my new pc this last weekend and it's running pretty well so i'm officially hyped to finally be able to play this thing.
Flugmorph 02.03.22	I'm here for the anti-hype
zaruyache 02.03.22	good keep me humble
Flugmorph 02.03.22	dark souls is one of my fav games ever but I'm just categorically against being hyped for new games like fuck it rarely ends well just chill and enjoy old games that had time to ripen and get polished.
Gyromania 02.03.22	I think the hype seems a lot more justified here based on the overwhelming praise for the closed network test and especially the game Informer exclusive. That dude never gets hyped for games and he's talking like this is the second coming. Plus fromsoft has a near flawless track record for the past 12 or so years
JohnnyoftheWell 02.03.22	Sorry gyro, that would be a good viable hypepoint if I weren't categorically against it "I can actually kill demon of hatred within a min or so" the sweat and tears that must have gone into this make me shiver. one day...
zaruyache 02.03.22	i mean it'll probably be buggy on launch day but idek that much, i just wanna ride my jumpy horsey along the seaside and watch the sun set!
Flugmorph 02.03.22	yeah sry gyro but i can't trust game journalists since #gamergate uknowimsayin
JohnnyoftheWell 02.03.22	tbf I have seen some journalists criticising the open world for being aimless, which seems 50% plausible, 50% likely to have missed the whole soulsbourne meme of self-navigating through an ultimately pointless universe. so hmm. anyone followed any of the lore on this?
zaruyache 02.03.22	the "empty" critique seems to be people still applying souls gameplay logic to an open world game when most open worlds are more running around than actual combat anyway. And there are proper soulsy dungeons so the overworld doesn't need to be stuffed with mobs to run over with your horse anyway. I don't really want to ride my horse to a bandit camp and get chased by a dozen dudes along the way actually.
Gyromania 02.03.22	I don't buy into the hype behind anything, but we already know (or I do at least from watching way more than I should have) that the first 10 or so hours looks incredible. I'd be surprised if this ends up not being a contender for best fromsoft game. They understand level design so much better than the vast majority of devs too, so I'm not doubting them here. I'm sure there'll be some empty space but that kind of comes with the territory of an open world game..even breath of the wild has vast fields of nothing; it's the discoveries you stumble upon organically that make it so special. I get not buying into the hype tho, esp after cyberpunk (but also at the same time, does no one remember how garbage witcher 3 was when it launched? I mean it's not comparable to the massive failure of cyberpunk but it's not like they had a flawless reputation)
Gyromania 02.03.22	"the sweat and tears that must have gone into this make me shiver. one day..." Ako sugar, divine confetti, malcontent prosthetic once per phase = more than half his health immediately gone per phase. Try it! You'll destroy him
Dewinged 02.03.22	I am actually against riding the elk thing on my first playtrough, gonna take it easy and walk everywhere like a moron.
Gyromania 02.03.22	I'm gonna ride it but I'll be hopping off a lot I'm assuming
Pon 02.03.22	I am 100% certain that Miyazaki and FromSoft will do a stellar job as always, consider me hyped.
Avagantamos 02.03.22	my hiatus from employment is just in time
Anthracks 02.03.22	empty feeling open worlds are the best and most atmospheric ones i will never understand the appeal of a meaningless npc wandering aimlessly and offering you pointless small talk
JohnnyoftheWell 02.03.22	STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM "Try it! You'll destroy him" haven't beaten him on Sekiro since the gauntlets update launched but mmmmokay will see how it goes
mynameischan 02.03.22	I think you will need Torrent to get to certain places but yeah the more I think about this game the more unbearable the weight becomes
robertsona 02.03.22	I havent played more than twenty seconds of any of these games but I do respect em (I also, to be clear, havent played more than twenty seconds of like any video game in a long time)
Scheumke 02.03.22	Super excited for this. Just recently (and finally) finished the old hunter's DLC (damn, Orphan of Kos took me probably the longest of any fromsoft boss). So far stayed away from most spoilers so going in pretty much blind. DS2 is the only one I haven't finished now and I don't intend to (can't get into the actual mechanics, it feels so cluncky). I'm a happy camper with a PS5 so curious how it'll look as well!
twlight 02.03.22	I'm playing through Sekiro right now. Idk I'm finding it kinda weak compared to a game like Bloodborne. Not nearly as satisfying. Anyways I'm excited to try Elden Ring on my new series s, game looks amazing
Gyromania 02.03.22	Robertsona you are missing out my guy! Never too late to get into 'em. And yeah the wait for this game is unbearable for me lol. I don't think I've struggled this hard with a wait since I was 10 years old knowing I'd be going to Disney World in a month
Gyromania 02.03.22	Scheumke: yeah orphan is probably a top 5 FromSoft boss for me. It took me so long to best him my first time. He and Ludwig are just chef's kiss. Twilight: give it a solid chance. It takes a while for the combat to rly click but once it does it's easily their best game mechanically. Prob the best rhythm game ever made.
Scheumke 02.03.22	In the meantime, I'm passing the wait by trying to get the Hollow Knight pantheons done. I don't think I'll be finished by the time Elden Ring releases lol.
Veldin 02.03.22	Ultimate hype. Gonna be not only the best FromSoft game, but possibly the best fantasy game ever. /hype
Gyromania 02.03.22	Oh man... The fifth pantheon in Hollow Knight. I think it's called the Pantheon of Hollownest. That is easily one of the hardest things I've ever done in a game. Getting all the way to the end just to die to that beefed up version of Radiance was so disheartening but when I finally beat her it was the most rewarding moment in my gaming life
DungeonBoy 02.03.22	I have a friend who wants to know if it's going to be "as hard" as the Soulsborne games? He apparently refuses to git gud, but thought I'd ask.
Gyromania 02.03.22	I saw the first *real* boss fight and it looks pretty hard. Like noticeably harder than their other entry-level bosses
DungeonBoy 02.03.22	interesting, I feel like making it less challenging would destroy the fanbase they've created up until this point, but would expand it to a wider audience. I haven't checked out much of the gameplay because I want to see it first for myself. Looking forward to it for sure
Scheumke 02.03.22	@Gyro, just finished normal Radiance in about 3 hours (I know, I'm bad at this game) so I can only imange how hard Pure Radiance is going to be. Still stuck on the third pantheon though, can't manage to get the hang on that bitch Zote haha. Biggest bitchslap to ever get in a game, getting beat up by a guy over and over who literally only trips over his own feet and slashes his sword like a little girl trying to hit a fly.
DungeonBoy 02.03.22	Couldn't 100% it myself. Beat Radiance and a lot of the extra content, but was like, yeah no i'm done. Stoked for Silksong though
Gyromania 02.03.22	Almighty Zote was pretty hard for me at first too but I practiced him plenty on Dirtmouth before the Godhome dlc dropped. His duel earlier in the game was so hilarious. Poor Zote. Pure Radiance can be unlocked and fought once you reach her in the fifth pantheon iirc. Don't get discouraged when you die to her the first time. It'll feel like a huge time waste, but after that you can practice the fight in the boss hall of fame (so cool they added this) until you feel confident enough to tackle the challenge again. I practiced Nightmare King Grimm to the point I could consistently beat him without taking a single hit. Still one of my favourite bosses to this day. Hollow Knight is so damn good, I wish it wasn't so fresh in my mind or I'd play it again, but I invested a stupid amount of time into that game. It's starting to feel like Silksong will never drop at this rate. But I felt the same way about that Cuphead dlc and that now has a June launch date, so, here's hoping we hear something soon about Silksong
Scheumke 02.03.22	I'd rather they take their time with Silksong until it's pitch perfect. I feel like Team Cherry just wants to take their time making it as large and good as can be. Yeah Nightmare King Grimm was not that hard for me strangely enough, had him in like half an hour-ish. And Yeah I love the option to practice bosses in the game. I can imagine wanting to throw your controller though your tv doing a 40+ boss rush and failing on the final boss because it's the most difficult thing in the game lol. Feels like a steep mountain but I think I'm up to the challenge haha.
Gyromania 02.03.22	Yeah same, I feel like Grimm's difficulty is just perfect. I did die to him a half dozen times but once I knew his attacks the patterns were obvious. I thought Pure Vessel was way harder. I'm not a controller-thrower but I won't lie, I hit my couch pretty damn hard the day I lost 3 consecutive runs to Absolute Radiance. Pretty sure I declared it the most bs boss ever for a short period of time haha. I do still think RNG plays a heavy factor. And I agree, I'd much rather they take their time with it than rush it out half finished *cough cyberpunk*
twlight 02.04.22	Gyro: yeah on Sekiro i've only made it up to the second "main boss" not the dude on a mount, but the main character/villain that you encounter at the top of that temple. It's been brutal for me so far as it's definitely about the RHYTHM. i'll probably just restart the entire game like i did with Bloodborne and have an absolute blast with it
Scheumke 02.04.22	Yeah Genichiro is a bitch the first time through. With Sekiro, more than any other Fromsoft game, I found that it is indeed all about the dance. You just bash your head against the wall long enough that you get quick enough to react to all the little tells. The great thing about Sekiro is that it is actually you getting better, not the character. I absolutely flew through my second playthrough (minus some serious bosses, looking at you inner Ishinn) because I just got a lot better at the rhythm.
twlight 02.04.22	Genichiro! yeah he's really well designed and frustrating (as most FS game bosses are). do you ever use the secondary weapons like the axe and flame thrower? i feel like they are really hard to incorporate into the rhythm
Scheumke 02.04.22	Only for specific reasons. I've found them usually too slow to incorporate them unless when it serves a very specific purpose.
Gyromania 02.04.22	Twilight: Genichiro is a wall for most new players, myself included. The thing that's so genius about Sekiro is you fight a boss like him and think, "This game is way too damn hard", but by the time you beat him and some of the later game bosses, you realize how easy Genichiro actually is. My first time fighting him I remember thinking if it gets any harder than this I'm probably not going to be able to see the game through. Now I absolutely slap the shit out of Genichiro whenever I see him. Check this out: https://youtu.be/0QRlVGuSb_o I recorded this for a friend who was hard stuck on him and wanted to know how you get in the rhythm of the fight. If you play long enough you'll be able to handily defeat bosses like him, it's just a bit more of a time commitment to master than other FromSoft bosses. When you do master it though, Sekiro has some of the most rewarding boss encounters in all of gaming. If it's been a while since you've played then restarting wouldn't be a terrible idea. Or, you could just hit your head off the wall until it all comes back to you in the Genichiro fight. He's designed in such a way that you're going to get better the longer you fight him and you will come out of the fight with better understanding of the game's mechanics
Gyromania 02.04.22	And yeah the prosthetic tools can be very useful but as scheumke noted, they're very situational. Some bosses get absolutely wrecked by certain prosthetics
Scheumke 02.04.22	Yeah Sekiro really makes you feel at the end of it that it's a really deserved win. YOU got better and did it. Other fromsoft games have that too, but usually also have ways to trivialize certain bosses (arcanebuild on Amygdala, fight takes literally 25 seconds) that Sekiro just doens't give you. It's all you and that makes it super satisfying.
Gyromania 02.04.22	Agreed with all of that. I love all of their games but it's too easy to just grind in any of their souls games or Bloodborne and go back to fight a boss when you're extremely op. Sekiro only has this insofar as gourd upgrades, divine grass, posture and health increase, etc. But that's nothing compared to levelling up magic or a weapon to the point it kills a boss in a few hits. Also ugh Game Informer uploaded more content. I wish they'd stop, I have horrible self-control lol
mynameischan 02.04.22	My first play through of Sekiro was very unsatisfying because I was trying to play it like bloodborne, dodging all the time. You have to replace the typical fromsoft urge to dodge attacks with a new instinct to deflect everything. Once you realize that, the combat sings in a way that is so much more fulfilling than basically any other game I’ve ever played
Gyromania 02.04.22	Same here but I feel like I've played it to death now. These boss gauntlets and Inner bosses were great to come back to and I've been enjoying the hell out of them, but I wanted actual dlc. It's a bummer that this is their only game in the last decade that didn't get a proper dlc. I'd he very happy if they announced a sequel/prequel to Sekiro.
mynameischan 02.04.22	Yeah the deflect/posture system is too good to only be used in one game. Seems like they’ve taken parts of it for use in Elden ring, but I’d kill for a sequel to Sekiro
Jamdbz 02.04.22	Glad I'm not the only adult taking the day off to play a video game. So fucking hyped for this
lowkeykindofaunit 02.04.22	So hyped but also the new Path of Exile league + expansion is dropping today and it's probably going to eat up most of my time. Might not actually play Elden Ring until a few months after release.
Gyromania 02.05.22	I'd never heard of path of exile before this, but it looks pretty great. Assuming it's not the best experience on PS4 tho?
lowkeykindofaunit 02.06.22	I think it's still worth it to play on PS4 especially just to try it out and see if you like it. It's definitely a better experience on PC though
Gyromania 02.13.22	12 days! Rly hard not to watch the stuff people are uploading on YouTube
mynameischan 02.13.22	Vaati has a good one where he just discusses what has changed in the network test area. He doesn’t go beyond that
zaruyache 02.13.22	excite
Scheumke 02.13.22	I'm gonna have to fight with my girl for PS time when it comes out haha. She's beyond excited for Horizon Forbidden West. @Gyro, finally finished the Pantheon of the Knight. Pure Vessel took me more time to get the hang of than I care to admit lol. Now only Pantheon of Hollownest left woop woop
beefshoes 02.13.22	I'm just happy that Arceus ended up being so enjoyable, because it makes these last couple of weeks of waiting on Elden Ring a lot more managable than it would have been otherwise. Hype is absolutely through the roof.
Gyromania 02.13.22	Chan: yeah I watched the Vaati one, it's good stuff. There were a few spoiler-y things he said but overall nothing crazy. I've heard from a few different sources that the network test was only around 10-15% of the overall world map. If true, this game is going to be massive. Really hoping it's like breath of the wild and contains 100+ hours of content. Scheumke: nice dude! Did you practice him in the boss hall of fame before attempting the Pantheon? That always makes it easier for me. Good luck on the Pantheon of Hallownest - you're going to need it!
Gyromania 02.13.22	I've been keeping preoccupied with Sifu and OlliOlli World (both fantastic games, everyone should check them out)
Mort. 02.13.22	yeah the vaati video was a good amount of info, didnt spoil much. this is the only game im really looking forward to. will have something else to look forward to when the developers of slay the spire announce their next project (same for the develpers of disco elysium)
Gyromania 02.13.22	Man, Disco Elysium is a masterpiece. Rly excited for what they do next. The only other things I'm massively anticipating atm are Silksong and that new Cuphead DLC. February is one of the most stacked months in gaming history, makes me think 2022 could be one of the best years for gaming in some time.
mynameischan 02.13.22	Sifu feels almost as good as Sekiro and clearly took some inspiration from that game. When you start getting the evades down and see time slow before punching someone in the face, it’s great. I’m still having a tough time with it though
Gyromania 02.13.22	Yeah same here. I came to this after another huge Sekiro binge. Beat all the boss gauntlets without needing to resurrect once, so I thought I'd come into Sifu and adapt quickly but I've been getting destroyed. I just can't get the parry timing down yet, I normally resort to dodging or hard blocking. Still such a superb game so far - just going through the museum atm.
mynameischan 02.13.22	What I realized is that evading (not dodging) works better than parrying and I don’t feel like the game makes that clear enough. Hold the block button and move the analog stick based on the strikes coming at you. I was trying to parry everything at first and having a really hard time with it. When I started evading instead I started to feel like I got the game
Gyromania 02.13.22	Yeah I just tried that for the past half hour and had way more success. Idk how I feel about parrying. Like it's obviously a mechanic in the game that the devs want you to get good at but it seems so inconsistent. Maybe they'll patch it to be more responsive or something, because I've seen a lot of people on Reddit complaining about it too. Have you beat the game yet?
mynameischan 02.13.22	I can only consistently parry regular punches. If I try to parry Sean’s staff in the second boss fight then he destroys me I haven’t beaten it yet. I have made it to Sanctuary but haven’t gotten to the boss yet
Gyromania 02.13.22	Bosses seem especially hard to parry, to the point I don't think the game wants you to even try it. I tend to play against them much differently than normal enemies
mynameischan 02.13.22	The third boss is still the hardest for me. I have a lot of trouble with that fight even after doing it a bunch of times. The youngest I’ve beaten it at is like 32
Scheumke 02.13.22	@Gyro: Yeah I practiced the shit out of Pure Vessel before going back into the Pantheon. I waited until I had him at the point where I could kill him three times in a row and then it worked. Was a silent fist in the air when I got it though haha. Pantheon of Hallownest is going good so far. First goal is getting to absolute radiance so I can practice it. Couple of tries down and got to watcher nights so slow progress.
zaruyache 02.15.22	Nine daysss
Gyromania 02.17.22	Kuroki was indeed very hard but it was fun to learn her fight. Can't say the same for Jinfeng. I beat her my first try but died like 4 times. Beat her a few times since but I still think she's garbage, just rly don't enjoy that keep away playstyle. At the sanctuary rn but I haven't gone though it, just wanted to replay levels to unlock more
Gyromania 02.17.22	Scheumke: absolute radiance is one of those bosses where I could never consistently beat her in the boss hall of fame. I kind of just ended up beating her twice in a row and said "fuck it, let's try it again" and managed to clutch it.
Dewinged 02.17.22	Pre-ordered today. I can't take it anymore, just drop it already...
Gyromania 02.17.22	Lol yeah man it's only 8 days but it's killing me!
Scheumke 02.17.22	[2], pre-ordered earlier this week. Counting down the days...
Demon of the Fall 02.17.22	do you guys think this will be an easier game than FromSoft's past works? I've heard speculation that it will be, at least in some ways I guess that's the nature of an open world, it's easier to simply avoid battles until you get stronger, might not be a bad thing if the fights are still tough enough for the veterans
mynameischan 02.17.22	They have basically said as much because you have more options at your disposal. And there won’t be any long runs back to the boss. But you could always play older games on easy mode by summoning anyway so I don’t really think it’s a bad thing. I fucking hate the long boss runs in demons souls
SteakByrnes 02.17.22	one more week fellas
Dewinged 02.17.22	What chan said
Demon of the Fall 02.17.22	I want to play this game under the condition that it won't beat me into a pulp, so I'm going to wait until it officially drops to ascertain such things. Once people start having solid opinions on the difficulty, especially from those who went in without previous experience, I'll have a better idea. I'm assuming the openness will lead to a greater degree of control of what you face and when, but time will tell. I don't mind grinding/avoiding fights/being patient, I just don't want to be stuck on a boss for any length of time because that doesn't sound fun (and why I avoided the Soulsbourne games, for the most part).
Scheumke 02.17.22	If I'm not stuck for a couple of hours on certain bosses I'm gonna be severely disappointed haha, so I have the opposite. The main reward for me in these games comes from overcoming encounters that seem impossible on the first few tries. You keep trying and slowly get better until you finally make it and have a genuine fist-pump moment.
Demon of the Fall 02.17.22	I get that some people like / want that. I want a more casual and relaxing gaming experience, not expecting to steamroller the thing, but I certainly don't like being stuck for too long. I can deal with difficult puzzles, I'm just not into action games that require precise actions, timing and / or reactions to deal with foes Hopefully this game gives the diehard fans what they want whilst simultaneously making it more accessible for plebs like me Like I said if I can beat a boss by avoiding it / using stealth until I'm strong enough, fine (I'll just level higher than the better players, lol)... if the game works like that
Scheumke 02.17.22	Have you tried Demon's Souls @Demon? By far the easiest of the bunch and if you happen to have a ps5 it might be a very good entry point. Yes it can be difficult some times, but it's far less punishing than fromsoft's other titles. Also there are a couple of point where you can farm souls to become overleveled as shit making the rest of the game from that point a whole lot easier still.
Devastator 02.17.22	One week folks.
Gyromania 02.17.22	"I fucking hate the long boss runs in demons souls" Remember some of the runs in DS2? The frigid outskirts is easily worse than anything in Demon's Souls iirc. All for a reskinned gank-fight lol
Gyromania 02.17.22	Demon: the devs said recently they expect this to be the game that most people complete. When you consider the supposed length of the game, that's quite the statement, and might make one think it has to be piss easy. Apparently it will be slightly easier in some respects, but it sounds like a lot of the true challenge will reside in the game's optional bosses. The dev I saw interviewed recently said there will be optional bosses as hard as Orphan of Kos and Gael
Gyromania 02.17.22	"I just don't want to be stuck on a boss for any length of time because that doesn't sound fun" Total opposite for me. I'm really hoping there are some bosses that take me a couple-few hours to master. 1) it increases the longevity of the game, 2) it usually makes me a better player (unless it's artificial difficulty), and 3) their hardest boss fights are usually their most memorable (Orphan, Ludwig, Gael, Midir, Sword Saint, Owl Father). One of the things I dislike about Zelda games is how much of a joke their bosses are. Well done spectacle fights, but gimmicky most of the time
mynameischan 02.17.22	Frozen Outskirts is like the most audacious level I’ve ever seen in a video game lol. I’ve blocked my time there from my memory
Gyromania 02.17.22	Haha I remember how disappointed I was when I finally made it to the boss just to see it was a reskin. All the worst fights (barring Sir Alonne) had rly long and tedious/annoying lead ups to them. That area with the 3-npc gank in shulva sanctum city was also pretty egregious, as was the Blue Smelter Demon run.
Gyromania 02.17.22	It's been so long since I beat Demon's Souls, I don't even remember which runs are the worst. For sure I hated that swamp though, and it sounds like we'll have another "fuck you" swamp in Elden Ring lol.
Scheumke 02.17.22	Just recently replayed Demons's Souls on ps5 and the yeah the swamp is annoying but the boss is a joke so no runback needed lol. Most levels are designed clever enough not to warrant a long runback is what I've found. Most annoying one is probably the Flame Demon in 2-2.
mynameischan 02.17.22	At least those ds2 dlc areas were specifically designed to be ridiculously challenging. Some of the demons souls boss runs are just annoying. Like the run to the Maneaters boss fight where you just have to sprint for like 5 minutes
Scheumke 02.17.22	Huh, don't remember that one being super long, but you might right with that one.
zaruyache 02.18.22	vaati said the network test exaggerated how easy the normal game would be bc it gave players a lot of toys early on that are not as quickly acquired in the full version, so I think it sounds like it will be just as challenging before--albeit with a lot more build/style options.
Gyromania 02.18.22	Idk about you guys but I'm planning on doing a deprived run for my first one. I'd rather just find everything in the world and have a bit more of a challenge.
DocSportello 02.18.22	I'm not sure I can get behind the notion that Demon's Souls is the easiest. If you're going into it having, like, played Bloodborne or one of the Dark Souls games to the end, then sure it's not going to be immensely difficult. But to a first-time player, Demon's Souls would be unrelenting, unless said player was doing extra homework. The world tendency system, the character tendency system (distinct but potentially overlapping disastrously), the linearity of its "levels" and the nonlinearity of player freedom, and the way you could conceivably fuck your character up, build/world-wise, to the point where the player has to just start over. Or get impossibly good.
Dewinged 02.18.22	Demon's is fucking hard lol Wretch / Equip what you get sounds like a good time, but I always end up doing STR/VIT 2 handed monster, no matter which class I start with. The magic seems OP on this game, not sure I wanna rely on that on my first playthrough. Confessor looks dope.
DocSportello 02.18.22	My plan for the first playthrough is to level slowly around a "quality" mentality and just accumulate stuff, and not really decide until sl60 or so where I'll lean into, hard.
Dewinged 02.18.22	I'm planning to walk everywhere and ignore the elk completely. Walk, slow, take it all in. ooooohhh Elden Ring...
JohnnyoftheWell 02.18.22	asdgtfhiloli,kmjngaehype it is soon they have an astrologer starting class apparently, and idk how to say no to this also 33% in favour of ignoring the horse and 66% down with taking it and jetting off to the opposite end of the map as soon as the game starts and STAYING there. exile gang are you with me
DocSportello 02.18.22	I can't keep a small part of my lizard brain from hoping they'll just release it a few days early for shits
zaruyache 02.18.22	i'm gonna take some strolls along the seashore and watch the sunset. maybe build myself a cottage near the water and forget all that "tarnished ring" rubbish.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.18.22	i am going to start a cult
Dewinged 02.18.22	Pacifist blind run, who's with me.
zaruyache 02.18.22	broken sword only DK bongo drum run
Avagantamos 02.18.22	bubble sorcery only run
zaruyache 02.18.22	brutal
DocSportello 02.18.22	crafting and fists only run
Scheumke 02.18.22	Starting up Horizon Forbidden West now, which might be my passtime for the coming week, holy crap this game is gorgeous.
Dewinged 02.18.22	I hate that game. Don't know why.
Gyromania 02.18.22	Yeah Forbidden West looks great. Zero Dawn had a lot going for it but its open world felt very blank and devoid of interesting content at times (something I'm thinking Elden Ring will expertly avoid). Sifu is my pass time until Elden Ring. So far the game is proving to have many hours of content. Currently doing the ending where you spare the bosses. Might go for the platinum trophy for this one
Gyromania 02.18.22	Also regarding walking in Elden Ring: I feel like Torrent will be essential for traversal. From what I've seen the lands are quite large and though they're densely packed with cool points of interest, it looks like it would be pretty tedious just walking around everywhere
Mort. 02.18.22	youre telling me they havent made the next strand type game?
mynameischan 02.18.22	I would assume that some areas won’t be accessible at all without Torrent. Which is very exciting. Gyro I finished the spare bosses thing in Sifu. I’ll go back and try the platinum at some point (only a few trophies left) but now Forbidden West will occupy me until Friday. I started it this morning
Gyromania 02.18.22	Chan: Was the Yang fight hard for you? It's the only one that's rly screwing me up atm. I've got the hang of his first phase, but his lows in the second phase always screw me up. And how's Horizon? It's getting some pretty high ratings from the looks of it
beefshoes 02.18.22	"I'm not sure I can get behind the notion that Demon's Souls is the easiest." DeS's areas are the toughest in the Souls games by a considerable stretch, and the lack of checkpoints can be brutal in areas like Valley. The bosses on the other hand are the easiest.
mynameischan 02.18.22	Horizon is great so far but I was only able to play for like two hours before having to get ready for work. I haven’t gotten to the new area yet. Yang was definitely tough for me. I had to do the fight a lot before I felt confident. I was actually glad about the spare thing because it forced me to get better at parrying. I still have trouble with certain moves though
brainmelter 02.18.22	I’m considering starting with a prisoner or samurai build, was thinking vagabond but everyone and their grandmother is starting with that one
Gyromania 02.18.22	Chan: The Yang fight is incredible once you master it. It seemed so unfair at first, but much like you, sparing all bosses taught me the value of parrying. Mixing parries with evades makes so much sense to me now and I feel silly for not getting this earlier lol. I've gotta say though, as cool as I thought it was that the Yang fight was transitioning into a third phase, it ended up being a bit frustrating. I was parrying him with ease and dishing out damage. I filled his bar up in the first 30 seconds or so, but every time it got near to full, he'd repeatedly back up and avoid me until it was back at 0. I'm not sure if that was intentional AI design, but I ended up having to fight him there for like 10 minutes as a result lol
Jamdbz 02.18.22	Yang fight kickin' my ass right now. Can't seem to get past the second phase but I'm also 59 when I start it so I best get that number lower
Gyromania 02.18.22	My advice to you is try to parry as much as you can until your meter gets too high, then evade to lower it a bit. Be ready for his lows - he does a combo in particular that is also 2 high and 2 low. After seeing it enough you'll just know it's coming. Don't try to parry his heavy attacks, they'll just destroy your posture meter, always evade those. Don't be afraid to keep throwing punches in-between his moves. He spends a lot of time trying to bait you into attacking or backing off which lowers his bar. Just throw a jab here and there to bait a combo of his and then punish it (if punishable) afterwards
mynameischan 02.18.22	Yes the third phase took me a while as well. I was paranoid that I had to spare him again so I was trying to be really careful not to kill him so that slowed the fight down too. Turns out there was only the one option
Gyromania 02.18.22	Lmao I was thinking the same thing. When I got the deathblow option I immediately paused the game and looked it up.
Gyromania 02.18.22	PSA: be careful guys, Elden Ring spoilers are now everywhere from people who got their copies early. A lot of twitch streaming and stuff making its way over to YouTube. Luckily it's being taken down as fast as it's going up
DocSportello 02.19.22	Apparently Amazon is already sending out physical copies. There’s a possibility that if you order it and something else they’ll send you both at the same time, I.e. when the “other” item would’ve ordinarily come. Just a possibility, not a guarantee
JohnnyoftheWell 02.19.22	Guess I'm buying bath salts today
zaruyache 02.19.22	pc players get no lov i want it earlyyyyy
Gyromania 02.19.22	I'm fine with waiting. Who knows how much is in that day 1 patch. Maybe people rn are facing some huge glitches or visual/audio bugs. I'd rather experience it at its best. Back when DS3 came out I managed to DL it 2 weeks or so earlier than its actual US release because it was available early on the Japanese PS store (it wasn't super easy to do this). Kind of ruined the experience for myself by having everything set to Japanese with no way to switch to English at launch. I also wasn't able to DL the patch they put out for it later that day and had some issues.
Trebor. 02.19.22	I had to cancel my preorder today because I'm gonna be in Hawaii for a week when this comes out. Gonna get it digital instead and start that download the second I get home
zaruyache 02.19.22	you fool why would you schedule vacation so near elden ring
DocSportello 02.19.22	I honestly couldn’t give a shit if I played it before the day 1 patch. Souls games are meant to be restarted, over and over. I’m just going to buy some groceries, stagger them out a day at a time, and I bet I get my copy at least 2 days early
Demon of the Fall 02.19.22	I somehow persuaded a mate to pre-order this and I hadn’t even decided yet 😄 Guess he just really liked the look of it from the videos etc.
DocSportello 02.19.22	It’s going to blow the Cyberpunk launch out of the water. I wouldn’t be surprised if the only “real” issues manifest on last-gen consoles and weak PCs. It’ll likely be the cleanest AAA launch of the pandemic era
zaruyache 02.19.22	ye hopefully. i still have to play cyberpunk, maybe after elden ring and god of war pc port.
Trebor. 02.19.22	"you fool why would you schedule vacation so near elden ring" I planned the vacation before the game was delayed
zaruyache 02.19.22	you should've accounted for all possibilities like a real gamer
Tw1ster 02.20.22	Almost done my replay through Dark Souls 1-3. It’s been amazing to revisit the series to hype myself up even more for Elden Ring. Just about to try my hand at the Nameless King. Pray for me. Also the new gameplay overview for Elden Ring is awesome
mynameischan 02.20.22	I started watching that but backed out after like a minute because they were showing things I haven’t seen. Only a few more days…
zaruyache 02.20.22	i checked new footage just to see if they'd fixed the HUD and it looks much better so i'm satisfied. the old bloodborne-style bars were boring.
Dewinged 02.20.22	Cyberpunk PS4 is platted so I've been working on a self indulgent playthrough of DS remaster. This is like the Sunn o))) version of a speedrun. Drone Souls. Watch if you pleeeease... https://youtu.be/haNflBx0Sng Please drop Elden Ring already I'm going hollow here...
AsleepInTheBack 02.20.22	Finally beat DS3 and working though the DLC, which I'm hoping to get though before Elden Ring, though damn that shit hard.
Gyromania 02.20.22	Vaati's new upload was great. Doesn't appear to spoil anything for those who have played/seen the CNT. It contained a "holy shit" moment for me when he talked about all those seemingly random pieces of architecture in the world. At first I thought From was just throwing in the same reused assets to pad out the land but I should have known better - they tend not to do things without purpose. It seems fairly obvious to me now based on that one trailer released weeks ago, but for some reason I didn't piece it together
zaruyache 02.21.22	the ringed city dlc rules so hard, have fun with that one
Gyromania 02.21.22	The ringed city is very good BUT... I was a bit let down by the 'city'. I was hoping to go through more buildings and wanted a level that connected back together in a more organic way than just that one elevator. It's a fantastic dlc overall and has some of their best bosses, but if I'm being honest, I thought the actual level design for Ariendel was a bit stronger (even tho it's the weaker dlc overall)
Dewinged 02.21.22	Yep, the DLCs were pretty crazy. Goddamn I just saw the whole trophy list for Elden Ring. So many bosses, so little time... OooooooooooooooOOOOooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooohhh Elden Ring...
Gyromania 02.21.22	Haha Dewi I did the same thing. I have no fking self control, man. Looks like 30 trophy bosses and I'm assuming a bunch of smaller ones. None of these besides Margit are a trophy from the CNT, and they had like 12 bosses in the CNT, which makes me think there are going to be A LOT of these smaller dungeon bosses. Some looked pretty mediocre chalice-dungeon tier, but a handful looked actually pretty cool
Dewinged 02.21.22	Yeah man. I am gonna go exactly the opposite side of that guiding light. I always end up rushing the ending but this time I wanna savor it, read all the lore pieces and sniff everywhere. (Until some fucking weakling hands my ass for being in the wrong place with the wrong build and sets me on course)
Scheumke 02.21.22	Owh damn at least 30 major bosses that give trophies. Hype hype hype 4 days.
Slex 02.21.22	Will hopefully be able to get this from Gamefly, ngl I bit the bullet and bought Forbidden West instead. I've been really agitated and short-tempered lately; not the ideal mindset for a playthrough of a new From game lol
mynameischan 02.21.22	Forbidden West is really great. The facial animations might be the best I’ve seen. This one character has a slight lisp and you can actually see the lisp in the way he moves his mouth.
Scheumke 02.21.22	Yeah I agree, it's pretty much a step up in every department while keeping the core the same. It's a gorgeous game that I will leave completely by the roadside starting friday lol.
mynameischan 02.21.22	Yeah I am rushing to get it done by Thursday night lol. I don’t know if I can platinum it by then but I’m gonna try. The writing is great too. Even in the side quests
Slex 02.21.22	Yeah I think it's pretty incredible so far, I'm really enjoying/impressed with how good and weighty the platforming and combat is this time, I think it makes a huge difference and the game is a lot better than the first so far
mynameischan 02.21.22	Yeah they improved everything. Melee combat in particular is so much more satisfying now
Gyromania 02.21.22	The problem I had with Zero Dawn was that despite how beautiful and detailed everything was, and as fun as the combat mechanics were, the open world rarely had me wanting to explore every inch of it. It wasn't as densely packed with cool things to see and do as I'd hoped and I'd play it in shorter bursts over the span of a few weeks. I don't think this is going to be an issue in Elden Ring, seems very much akin to BotW in its world design. One of those games you only stop playing for the day because you have to go to work or have some other obligation
trilo 02.21.22	hnnng 3pm release time on thursday and i took friday off lets friggin go gamers
Slex 02.21.22	I haven't gotten to do much open world stuff in Forbidden West yet, will have to report back Regardless of what peeps are playing, it is a fucking magnificent time to be a gamer lmao. Flitting between Dying Light 2, next-gen Cyberpunk, Sifu and Forbidden West n having such a blast
trilo 02.21.22	have they actually made improvements to cyberpunk that aren't just bug fixes? cuz the game was pretty awful bugs aside
Gyromania 02.21.22	NGL I think all my enthusiasm for Cyberpunk is dead at this point lol. It's not even the performance issues, I just found the quests and world very boring. But yeah Sifu rules, and Forbidden West does look awesome and I'm excited to play it. Dying Light 2 I'm less excited for but it also seems pretty great. Been playing OlliOlli world a lot too (best platformer I've played in a while). Martha is Dead looks very promising too. February alone is better than all of 2021, which was a kind of a shit year in gaming in hindsight
Slex 02.21.22	They pretty much fixed Cyberpunk drastically yeah, it's unbelievably immersive now Dying Light 2 is incredible except when it sucks sometimes lol There's a phenomenal lil indie called Infernax that dropped last week too, peeps who love old Castlevania/Shovel Knight should check it
Gyromania 02.21.22	I am a MASSIVE Castlevania fan, and Shovel Knight is among my favourite platformers. I'll have to check that out. You ever play Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon 1 and/or 2? Those games are the best spiritual successors to OG Castlevania that I've played
mynameischan 02.21.22	The world is a lot more engaging in Forbidden West. And it’s just so gorgeous to look at that I like walking around even if I’m not particularly doing anything. They even have some rockstar style dynamic events in the world (mostly combat based but still). And so much machine variety it’s crazy
Scheumke 02.21.22	You guys figured out your starting classes yet? Been trying to not have too much spoiled, but did look up some info on starting classes and indeed Vardy's lorevideo which was super interesting. Haven't been this hyped for a game in years.
Gyromania 02.21.22	Glad to hear Forbidden West has those cool random encounters, those were easily my favourite thing about the open world in RDR2
Gyromania 02.21.22	Safe to say that this is the most excited I've ever been for a video game, Scheumke. I want to go Wretch to prolong the experience and find everything in the world as opposed to just being handed a bunch of stuff at the start. But idk, Astrologer and Samurai look rly cool.
trilo 02.21.22	imma just pick whoever has a big 2 hander cuz starting class barely matters in these games (unless that has changed?) and i wanna start swingin a big ass stick around pronto
mynameischan 02.21.22	Class won’t matter except for the first few encounters as usual in the Souls games. I don’t usually go in for magic but it looks great in elden ring so maybe I’ll start with that
Scheumke 02.21.22	I'm a min/maxer so I hate starting with something with 14 arcane/luck/whatever its called in Elden Ring that only increases item discovery. Probably starting either an Astrologer for a full mage build or a prisoner for a battlemage kinda build. Btw. I'm still extra pumped for the fact that there's 30 main bosses.. 30!! Probably a fuckton of minibosses and optional bosses that don't even give trophies.
Dewinged 02.21.22	Wretch is love, Wretch is life.
Gyromania 02.21.22	Wretch bros unite < 3
Avagantamos 02.21.22	as far as min-maxing stats goes, I think prisoner will be meta for any kind of intelligence build due to their lower starting faith/arcane total compared to the astrologer
DocSportello 02.22.22	canceled my amazon order because it wouldn't arrive until March 1 bleh
zaruyache 02.22.22	east-coasters get it at 6 pm woooooooooo, that makes my week a little easier to plan. Going Wretch too probably, i'd like to go into this game as pure as possible. Can't wait to spend the whole evening exploring the same quarter mile of territory for all its secrets.
Trebor. 02.22.22	"canceled my amazon order because it wouldn't arrive until March 1 bleh" just get it digital. They can't fit games on discs anymore anyway
Gyromania 02.22.22	seems like on console i have to wait until midnight. fucking laaaaame
Avagantamos 02.22.22	I was probably gonna buy it again on steam just so I could co-op with my friends. went ahead and did it now just to cut the wait by 6h
Dewinged 02.22.22	"Can't wait to spend the whole evening exploring the same quarter mile of territory for all its secrets." This. "seems like on console i have to wait until midnight. fucking laaaaame" I believe it means Thursday at midnight. (I want to believe)
Gyromania 02.22.22	It does mean Thursday at midnight, still lame. Yeah I'm probably going to comb every inch of the map before moving on. I've always done this in Souls games. I also find myself moving the camera around a lot too, looking at buildings and backgrounds and studying them from different angles
Colton 02.22.22	the fact that this is also on ps4 makes it a lot less interesting imo but it'll probably be a good game still
Gyromania 02.22.22	What?
Slex 02.22.22	Cross generation games are bad for some people because they think only graphics matter and graphics are worse since they have to focus on last gen too People use Cyberpunk as the biggest example and disregard that CD were just lazy morons
Trebor. 02.22.22	This game has been in development long before there were even ps5 dev kits
Jamdbz 02.22.22	I haven't been this excited about a game in a long time. It's almost here holy shit
DocSportello 02.22.22	I'm not going to exist this weekend but as a lowly tarnished playing as a lord
zaruyache 02.22.22	this one knows
Colton 02.22.22	it's lame that it's on ps4 because it means it doesn't fully take advantage of what the newest gen is capable of in terms of game design. so my point is essentially the opposite of slex's interpretation. what's the point of the ps5 even existing if it just exists to run prettier versions of ps4 games
WhiteNoise 02.22.22	I didn't like Dark Souls at all, Bloodborne was too hard (lol) but something about Demons Souls remake hooked me so bad and I actually fucking loved that game so I'll give Elden Ring a go for sure.
Gyromania 02.22.22	in terms of game design? um, how often do you play games? there are games exclusively for the ps5 that aren't as well designed as ps4 games from years ago. and the main advantage a ps5 has over a ps4 is consistently smooth 60fps and faster loading times. and yes, it can render prettier looking games too, but it's mostly a huge performance upgrade. the haptic feedback feature it has is cool, but it's not going to ruin your experience if you don't have it. just curious: have you played a fromsoft game before? they've never been leading in graphics, but more than make up for it with unique art direction and games so mechanically tight and complex that (for me, at least) they've ruined most rpgs lol
Trebor. 02.22.22	"it's lame that it's on ps4 because it means it doesn't fully take advantage of what the newest gen is capable of in terms of game design." Like I said, it was in development before the PS5. The groundwork of the engine and everything was already set when next gen became an option. Also lol it's a fromsoft game and it was never going to be like Red Dead 2 level cutting edge. Also like Gyro said you still get the 60fps and other advantages on ps5
zaruyache 02.22.22	there'd be more point to a PS5 by comparison in 2022 if not for the whole chip shortage, i mean the two were released 9 years apart so it's not like there isn't a generational difference between the hardware.
DocSportello 02.22.22	@WhiteNoise - if you ended playing the hell out of and loving DeS you'd probably really "get" Dark Souls this time around, were you ever to give it a second try
Scheumke 02.22.22	Can we just agree to collectively skip the next three days?
Dewinged 02.22.22	Signed.
Jamdbz 02.22.22	Oh absolutely
2CHAINAL 02.22.22	love Sekiro and DS3, but I kind of loathe DSR. wish i could get into it but it's just sooo slow in comparison
Gyromania 02.22.22	I mean yeah it's hard to go backwards lol. I still think DS1 is well paced, it's DS2 that feels the slowest imo and I just can't go back to it anymore There's a new Elden Ring trailer out but I refuse to watch it. Fromsoft is famous for posting the most spoiler filled trailer right before the launch of their games. Just look at the DS3 trailer, it spoils like 10 late game bosses including Nameless King, Lothric and Lorian, Abyss Watchers, Consumed King, Champion Gundyr, Yhorm, etc
2CHAINAL 02.22.22	It's not the pace of DSR that bothers me, the combat itself feels like it rewards patience and waiting while the ones I like it rewards you for being aggro (more in Sekiro than DS3) I just watched the trailer and it shows A LOT. Not a lot of context given so it's hard to call it a "spoiler" per say but yes, if you want to go in blind then don't watch that trailer. I know I'll be watching streams and stuff of it so I don't mind as much.
zaruyache 02.22.22	Ds2 is great because it violently punishes R1 spam
mynameischan 02.22.22	Can’t believe it’s so close. I remember being so disappointed to not get a network test invite and that was like three months ago.
Avagantamos 02.22.22	ds2 might actually be my favorite. still need to revisit ds3 though
Gyromania 02.22.22	Same, I rly wanted to play that CNT. This week is brutal so far tho. Feels like I'm looking at the event horizon of a black hole lol. I used to defend DS2 a lot but it's unquestionably the weakest of their games by a huge margin imo.
Pon 02.22.22	I've somehow managed to avoid almost all Elden Ring content bar the official Bandai reveal and some testing footage of static/active poise. My first playthrough gonna be for all intents and purposes blind.
WatchItExplode 02.22.22	I'm going to go home after work Thursday sit around and drink. Start this game when it allows me to boot it up and probably end up with some sort of pumpkin headed fool for a character and pass out. Can't wait
mynameischan 02.22.22	I really believe that Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP experience of any of their games. I don’t know what the community is like now but I had so much fun with fight clubs in that game
Scheumke 02.22.22	It's the only one I just can't get through for the life of me. I gave it a couple of serious tries and completed all fromsofts other titles including dlc's but DS2 just feel soo cluncky to me and the hitboxes are all over the place. My current rating would be: Bloodborne - Sekiro - DS1 - DS3 - DSR - DS2. The fact that DS3 is so low says a lot when it had so many of the best bosses. The others are all just so special though. If Elden Ring ends up in my top 3 I will be satisfied.
mynameischan 02.22.22	Bloodborne and Sekiro are definitely at the top for me too
Gyromania 02.22.22	"I really believe that Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP experience of any of their games. I don’t know what the community is like now but I had so much fun with fight clubs in that game" it did, and that was thanks to how they restricted summons/invasions based on soul level. in hindsight, dark souls 1's pvp is atrociously bad, because so many people playing today are max level abusing 1-shot builds. DS2 misses the mark drastically in its campaign though, and i think the big reason why is adaptability. it's so weird to me that there's a stat tied to how many i-frames you have, because if you spec into it as much as possible early on, you have what might be the most broken dodge-roll fromsoft has ever made, but if you aren't aware of that and allocate your points elsewhere, the hitboxes seem atrocious and the game seems to overinflate artificial difficulty. and i mean, aside that, i think the bosses are mostly underwhelming barring the dlc stuff, and the map design is fine enough, but too densely populated with gank squads
Slex 02.23.22	Bloodborne is easily my favorite/their best imo
zaruyache 02.23.22	"Start this game when it allows me to boot it up" you should be able to preload it now so it's ready to go on thursday, i'm downloading it on pc rn
WatchItExplode 02.23.22	Done. Just saying it's going to be late when I get to play. I likely won't make it too much further than the character creation.
zaruyache 02.23.22	i'm gonna go wretch and get smashed by the big horse guy a few times
Gyromania 02.23.22	UGH NO, i can't get the adventure guide, have to wait for the game to come out. was rly hoping i could check that out prior to
Tw1ster 02.23.22	The hype is killing me. Embargo is up tomorrow morning at 7 am pacific time as well. Not that I won’t buy it and enjoy it either way, but I hope it reviews well
mynameischan 02.23.22	Reviews are great so far, 10/10 from both IGN and Game Informer. I’m not reading them but I’m pleased to see it
Jamdbz 02.23.22	The metacritic avg is 97 based on 37 reviews holy shit
WatchItExplode 02.23.22	Yeah I really think this is going to be the ultimate souls game. Just imagine the kind of runs people are going to be putting together six months from now.
twlight 02.23.22	game looks sick but i need to beat Sekiro before i buy it. Sekiro is kicking my dick in
beefshoes 02.23.22	The reviews legitmately make me want to be unconscious for the next two days because the wait is unbearable
mynameischan 02.23.22	Yeah I was doing ok but now I can’t sit still lol
Jamdbz 02.23.22	Trying so hard not to give in and watch the video reviews. We're so close folks
Scheumke 02.23.22	I'm actually giddy with excitement. Feel like a little kid counting down the nights 'till his birthday lol and don't think I've felt this excited in anticipation for over a decade. A day and a half and lets goooo
Slex 02.23.22	The video reviews show way more exploration and open-world than before and I wish previews up to this point had shown more of that instead of focusing almost exclusively on the combat. I'm torn on From games with Bloodborne being my favorite because of the world and lore, I absolutely would have gotten Elden Ring day 1 if the advertising had been better tbh. Not to be negative tho, let's keep this hype train rollin
MO 02.23.22	sure it'll be fine. brb gonna replay bloodborne
SaveBandit 02.23.22	I've got Friday off, so I'm going to start the adventure tomorrow night as soon as I can which is 9pm PST and just grind for as long as I can lol. Already got it pre-downloaded on my PS4 and everything. HYPEEEE
Scheumke 02.23.22	Cowboy's review is really good. Only minor spoilers with footage of the first area and good in-depth analysis of the game. Safe to watch unless you want to go in super blind. IGN's shows a lot more of the area's and enemies but no bosses we haven't seen.
Gyromania 02.23.22	I was thinking it would crack the 90 mark and maybe surpass Bloodborne, but I didn't anticipate it getting 97! Pretty sure this puts it in the top 10 highest rated games of all time
necropig 02.23.22	its time to nut
samwise2000 02.23.22	too many good games coming out lately. This and KOF XV got my wallet cryin
Gyromania 02.23.22	I rly want to play KoF. I played a lot of Guilty Gear Strive last year and it's one of the best fighters I've played in ages
Jamdbz 02.23.22	GGS is so good. Potemkin is my jam with the MEGA FISTU
Slex 02.23.22	GG is a god tier fighting series yeah They did just put new Kof on Game Pass but it's gonna be a minute before I get to it lol
samwise2000 02.23.22	new kof kicks ass, really fun to play and is just a great classic style fighter. I just hope the player base stays steady, xiv died off pretty quickly
Flugmorph 02.23.22	god i hate the hype sourrounding this game so much im literally gonna implode
DocSportello 02.23.22	Just snagged an ounce of mushies for Day 1, I am ready to become *the* Elden Lord
DocSportello 02.23.22	also god *I* hate when people waste breath expressing disdain for a hype train, especially a hype train around what's going to be the most well-executed launch of the pandemic era. Reminds me of Ignatius Reilly from A Confederacy of Dunces, who goes to movies just to hate them. But please Flug, by all means implode. Implosion can only be a good thing for humanity
Tw1ster 02.23.22	I’ve got two bosses left to do on my replay of DS3. I can honestly say as a 33 year old man that I’ve never been this shamelessly hyped for a game in my life
Gyromania 02.23.22	32 here turning 33 in August and I'm right there with you brother lol
Hyperion1001 02.23.22	tfw too poor to play the game of the century :-(
Gyromania 02.24.22	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdstSHeoNGA superb review, light on spoilers from what i gather
rabidfish 02.24.22	my computer won't be able to handle this shit, gonna have to wait... will spoil myself shamlessly, tho hahahahahahah
zaruyache 02.24.22	i was gonna mention iron pineapple's rev as the one i watched, can't wait. He mentioned the only major problem on PC being some minor stuttering, but hopefully that'll be fixed in the day 1 patch and with the new nvidia drivers.
Dewinged 02.24.22	I thought I'd be able to play tonight at midnight, but then I remembered I got the US version (not sure the Japanese version had English) so now I am hanging on the US release time. So tomorrow it is. ... Just kill me already.
MiloRuggles 02.24.22	Finally having another run at DS3 after losing my save about 4 years ago when I was up to the Dancer. Really taking my time and lovin it. Tried to run a cleric, have wound up a battlemage with slowly rising INT (sorcery seems to land significantly more dmg, but it's nice having heals etc). Shields are for verified cowards Pretty hype, but think I'll finish up this playthrough first. Up to Farron Keep now
zaruyache 02.24.22	shields in ER got buffed oooo yeeeea cowards no more. just hoping for a grass crest shield.
Tw1ster 02.24.22	Dancer was such a graceful and beautiful battle. The music makes it. I just got through Lorain and Lothric tonight and had a blast, they gave me more trouble than Nameless King did recently. Onto the grand finale tomorrow
JohnnyoftheWell 02.24.22	currently stuck on the Dancer on my DS3 run (gameplan Vordt->Evil tree->Dancer->Oceiros->black knight halberd->rest), but mmmmhm what a great fight
Scheumke 02.24.22	I feel like I never did Dancer the way it is supposed to. Always got there with an already overpowered as shit character and oneshotted it within a minute or two. Always felt like a very cool fight though.
Gyromania 02.24.22	If played early on Dancer is a huuuuge wall for most. She's easily one of the best bosses in the game, even including the DLC bosses imo. Love the creepy ethereal sound and atmosphere in the fight, and the disturbing way she walks and attacks. Also rolling through her entire spin-to-win attack is so immensely satisfying
Trebor. 02.24.22	Early dancer is so fun but I only had the balls to do it once
JohnnyoftheWell 02.24.22	hehe finally got it - time to overpower the shit out of the rest of the game am having a panic attack over my ER preorder potentially being in 100% Japanese oh yikes oh shit
Dewinged 02.24.22	It is. English voices, JP text.
Gyromania 02.24.22	That would suck very hard tbh lol. That's how I experienced DS3 and I definitely regretted it
JohnnyoftheWell 02.24.22	gonna return that parcel; re-preordered on the UK playstation store and gonna leave my ps4 on all day so that it's installed by the time I'm back from work woooooo
Gyromania 02.24.22	Attaboy, Johnny! I'm excited to hear what you all think of the game. Will prob be coming here a lot to discuss my thoughts on the world and boss encounters. Really hoping we get some that challenge the best of the best (Sword Saint, Gael, Orphan, Friede, Owl Father, Ludwig).
Avagantamos 02.24.22	judging by how cool the margit fight looked in the CNT, I think there's gonna be tons of amazing boss fights tucked further back in the game
Slex 02.24.22	Well. I am now massively regretting not getting this game lmao
Jamdbz 02.24.22	Work is such a drag today
Gyromania 02.24.22	Alex: sell something and get it! Don't miss out
Slex 02.24.22	I am making the rounds to see if any of my friends will gameshare with me first lol but yeah probably going to
Colton 02.24.22	i wanna get this but i just realized my buddy in another city has had my ps4 for like 6 months
Avagantamos 02.24.22	is he within 2.5hrs driving? there's still time
beefshoes 02.24.22	In one of the videos that I listened to, a Souls vet said that there was a boss deep in the game that was even tougher than Sword Saint Isshin, which has me hyped as fuck since that's basically the best boss I've ever experienced in a game.
Colton 02.24.22	yeah we're gonna chill tonight, he has it pre-loaded or whatever on his PC
Scheumke 02.24.22	The suspense is killing me guys. Need to wait until the post arrives for my disc version so tomorrow will be a hell of waiting.
Gyromania 02.24.22	Beefshoes: same! Sword Saint is just the best, but Orphan and Owl Father come close. I'm hoping for some batshit insane fights in this game
Slex 02.24.22	Yo shoutout someone gameshare this game with me lol I will give u Forbidden West i now physically require this game the hype is too much
Demon of the Fall 02.24.22	What’s the quintessential noob build/class gonna be then guys? or will it require some hands-on research first
Slex 02.24.22	I've only played Bloodborne and DS2 and Samurai and Prisoner look dope
Gyromania 02.24.22	I can share it with you, I just don't know how lol
Slex 02.24.22	Yo holy fuck lmao shooting u a message on Facebook
Scheumke 02.24.22	@Demon I would always advise new players to go for a quality build, where you put points in both strenght and dexterity. It works well with weapons that scale off of both, and it gives you the option to experiment with 75% of the weapons in the game and find your preferred playstyle. There are options to respec later on I've seen, so go wild! The interactive full map is live at fextralife and wooooo it's large. Was just looking at it with everything off to minimize spoilers and just look at the size and areas. Very impressed.
CaliggyJack 02.24.22	Game is done downloading on my PS5. just waiting for the full release
SaveBandit 02.24.22	Same here dude. Literally just waiting until 9PM so I can jump on and start going crazy.
Gyromania 02.24.22	Wtf? I was just on Fextralife and all I could see was a detailed map breakdown for Limgrave
Scheumke 02.24.22	https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Interactive+Map Here you go :D
Trebor. 02.24.22	I'm literally trying to vibe in the ocean in beautiful Hawaii and all I can think about is playing Elden Ring when I get home
Mort. 02.24.22	i just decided to pre order and start downloading. thought fuck it why not, first game ive bought on release since like gears of war 3 lol
DocSportello 02.24.22	Best Buy ain't gonna have my physical copy to me until tomorrow night. I will absolutely demand a full refund
Colton 02.24.22	my friends are talking about what the optimal builds are and exactly how they need to level their character to achieve X, Y and Z and i’m like just play the fuckin game and do whatever you feel like doing you dorks
DocSportello 02.24.22	lol builds. how the fuck you know what your optimal build is until you play the damn game?
Colton 02.24.22	by reading about it
DocSportello 02.24.22	that defeats the purpose of the experience, in my opinion. but I guess a lot of new Souls players are trying to figure it out.
Slex 02.24.22	Samurai gang but I am equally excited to try Prisoner and the weirder mage classes too Was able to get this because of Gyro and I am like 10 minutes from starting boyos holy motherfuck lol
DocSportello 02.24.22	Wretch for me
Slex 02.24.22	I am a huge fan of From games but not super great at them so definitely steering clear of that one for now lmao
DocSportello 02.24.22	I mean, the world is so big that it won't take much time at all to loot armor from some weak enemies. Then you're a wretch no more, and your build's a blank check
Slex 02.24.22	Just started the game, this intro music is insanely fucking hype lol
necropig 02.24.22	mine was posted today so hopefully here when home from work tomorrow
mynameischan 02.24.22	Just got the Forbidden West platinum and ready for Elden Rings release
Gyromania 02.24.22	holy shit chan... that was fast
Gyromania 02.24.22	scheumke: i think it's still missing quite a bit in the top right, also looks like there's a landmass off to the right side, all by itself, and i'm pretty sure i know what that is. plus another large map that isn't included here. yeah, this game looks absolutely massive
gschwen 02.24.22	I just preordered it. I have no idea what I'm getting into but the hype was too massive.
Colton 02.24.22	yeah doc that’s what i’m saying, they look shit up instead of just playing the game. drives me nuts
DocSportello 02.24.22	Umbasa
necropig 02.24.22	isnt the plat for forbidden west really easy? so i heard
Slex 02.24.22	This game is motherfucking crack lmao like dangerously so, me and my roommate just burnt dinner because we forgot all about it
Gyromania 02.24.22	Colton I'm supremely confident you don't know shit all about fromsoft's games lmao. I had a build in mind for this game after the trailer they released months ago
JohnnyoftheWell 02.24.22	the true souls experience is being stuck in a build that you didn't mean to build and having to learn to play the game to a standard you never knew existed bc the boss blocking you from the entirety of the rest of the game don't give no shit got this boi mid-download rn, itching to get out of work
mynameischan 02.24.22	The forbidden west platinum is like all first party Sony platinums in that it’s more about doing all the things the game has to offer rather than it is about being difficult. So yeah it’s not hard but it still takes some time
Gyromania 02.24.22	Is it worthy of the praise it gets?
Dewinged 02.25.22	Hours. Hours left in this god forsaken office.
Slex 02.25.22	I'm being very good and not saying anything so I don't spoil or overhype yall but God I can't wait until everyone is playing lol
DocSportello 02.25.22	"the true souls experience is being stuck in a build that you didn't mean to build and having to learn to play the game to a standard you never knew existed bc the boss blocking you from the entirety of the rest of the game don't give no shit" this was me playing PS3 Demon's Souls trying to beat Maneater with pure black world tendency and poorly situated stats
Veldin 02.25.22	Starting my Wretch class character in about 4 hours! Picking up from GameStop and headed home to die repeatedly
zaruyache 02.25.22	finished downloading, praying to lord gwyn i don't get any weird bugs.
Slex 02.25.22	I've played about 2 hours and haven't run into anything besides pop-in that hasn't been nearly as bad as it is in like Forbidden West
zaruyache 02.25.22	lol they nuked the user reviews on steam because of dweebs trolling. the user forums are also flooded with shitposting dorks.
Slex 02.25.22	Wack but not surprising in the least
Tw1ster 02.25.22	I just don’t understand how review bombing a game they haven’t played is an actual hobby for people.
Slex 02.25.22	Idk but god it's been relentless lately, annoying as hell
Dewinged 02.25.22	If I start my first playthrough offline with no HUD, would it be too much?
Slex 02.25.22	Nah do it I dare you
Dewinged 02.25.22	Challenge accepted. I'll paste you guys the link once I have the first vids ready.
Gyromania 02.25.22	Let's play together Dewi!
Dewinged 02.25.22	Nah I am playing offline the first playthrough. Second playthrough, hard yes Gyro, let's do it.
Avagantamos 02.25.22	4 hours into wretch playthrough and I have yet to find a single scrap of armor, I'm getting 2 shot by most stuff! nice
CaliggyJack 02.25.22	2 fucking hours
GhandhiLion 02.25.22	Is anyone pumped for the new Jenny Hval album?
Dewinged 02.25.22	"4 hours into wretch playthrough and I have yet to find a single scrap of armor, I'm getting 2 shot by most stuff! nice" Goddamn, might go Vanguard Knight ol'school then lol
Gyromania 02.25.22	yeah my decision to go wretch has changed since seeing/hearing some review stuff. and yeah dewi let's do it! i totally hear you though, i'm gonna do the pve thing solo first time but i'm still keeping online on because i want those tense pvp encounters
Dewinged 02.25.22	yeah also debating with myself about the online cause the messages always crack me up, plus there's a good chance i get stuck, we'll see, I'll try to commit to that blind playthrough for as much as I can but if I hit a roadblock I may re-consider
Gyromania 02.25.22	Fair enough. I personally love the community aspect of souls titles esp at launch. So many people trying to troll others, and just as many trying to show you something cool and secret but facing down the dillema of whether or not to trust them, usually leading to hilarious deaths. It can just be rly fun too when you're far in a dungeon and someone invades you as you're nearly out of estus, paranoid you'll run into them before you can reach the next checkpoint or shortcut. Just kind of cool too to see how alive the world is with signs and spectres of other players (I'm assuming Elden Ring does this too but not 💯 sure
zaruyache 02.25.22	i got 3 hrs in, haven't even gotten my horse yet, but did find some armor by kind of farming the sentry dudes NE of the church merchant, and then just buying some crappy armor from said merchant >_> If you have yet to play it imo I'd suggest fucking around a little but not wasting **too** much time looking into the seaside and all that around the starting area, as you're probably gonna want to progress far enough to get your horse, then circle back and explore because there's a looooooot of ground to cover. Tomorrow my priority is following the lights of grace until I get my horsey, then going back to wandering around.
Slex 02.25.22	Yeah I am absolutely stunned how wholesome and useful Torrent is, I love him. Just took down one of the first kinda big bosses and am absolutely giddy with adrenaline rn
Avagantamos 02.25.22	damn I really just broke my controller fighting gravewarden duelist. that guy's moveset is fucking relentless holy shit. good thing it was my backup
zaruyache 02.25.22	i can't wait to get torrent tmrw and kick that horse knight guy in the face.
gschwen 02.25.22	i can barely beat a guy with a shield, let alone a boss
Gyromania 02.25.22	that narrator fucking killed it with that intro. god damn
Slex 02.25.22	The intro music for the main menu yall, it is wild how good it is
Dewinged 02.25.22	Six hours to go ;(
zaruyache 02.25.22	i hate how there's a PLIN PLON in the theme stop making me sad Miyazaki
Slex 02.25.22	The theme, and sound design, are like astounding in this game
Gyromania 02.25.22	i barely have any time at all in this game and i'm already in love with it
zaruyache 02.25.22	i traveled like three hundred yards in any direction from the start ;__;
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.22	Never heard of this game and I’m busy trying to do a PS1 run through of Legend of Dragoon and then Legend of Legaia. So…
Avagantamos 02.25.22	my neighbors must think I'm nuts with all the shouting and growling coming from my room as I fight for my life against these bosses, ill equipped. now that it's out on console I think I'm gonna start a new save on there and try some sorcery.
Colton 02.25.22	got super high with 3 friends and played this game for like 5 hours. it’s really fun and pretty hard. we couldn’t kill that one asshole on the horse in the beginning area. I killed this weird cat made out of stone boss we found in a dungeon and were close to beating this other sword boss
Colton 02.25.22	at one point I killed an animal and I was running into it and admiring the animation of how it moved for like 15 seconds and then this big ass troll thing randomly attacked me from behind
Gyromania 02.25.22	glad you're enjoying it, colton. i'm trying to soak up all the dialogue and see and do everything before moving on
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.22	I hope none of your friends have to take a shit and lose you as a friend while playing Elden Ring.
Colton 02.25.22	it’s pretty nice. when I tried combat on horseback it instantly brought me back to being a kid and playing Twilight Princess
Colton 02.25.22	nah i was at my friend’s place they didn’t come over. his bathroom sucks nobody would wanna shit there
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.22	Lol
Tw1ster 02.25.22	Won’t be able to play until tomorrow evening. Will be buying the PS5 version, anyone have any insight so far on how it looks and performs ?
Gyromania 02.25.22	only have the ps4 version. rly bummed by the lack of vegetation but otherwise on base ps4 it runs smooth as 30fps will allow, and i mean it's still a gorgeous looking game. feels like a dream
Tw1ster 02.25.22	That’s plenty enough for me. I’m oblivious when it comes to performance (unless it’s game breaking). I hear so much bad stuff about Bloodborne’s tech issues and I literally had no issues that I can recall.
Scheumke 02.25.22	I'll receive my PS5 version in the mail today so I'll let you know how it runs. I'm soooo excited! Wouldn't surprise me if it comes late in the day and I'll just sit here biting my nails for hours lol. First a couple of hours of work though so there's time.
Dewinged 02.25.22	4 hours. Extremely hollow right now. I've succesfully resisted the urge to check streams, but I don't know for how much longer.
Scheumke 02.25.22	Stay strong Dewi, We're in this together! Finally decided to start a prisoner for a battlemage build. Felt a shame to only focus on magic on my first playthrough and not enjoy all the cool weapons that I'll find.
Dewinged 02.25.22	Man I was so sold on wretch but i know i am gonna miss my classic knight build, plus i am curious about miracles, so i am leaning towards Vanguard or even Prophet or Confessor.. aaaaaaaaaaaaargh let me out of here :____ (
Scheumke 02.25.22	It does sound like a good idea to make sure to get Torrent first before backtracking the beginning area. Seems like a way to get through that all a lot faster. I know Dewi I'm too excited to sit still.
Dewinged 02.25.22	Fuck it, I'm going Wretch lol
Gyromania 02.25.22	don't go wretch you will get wrecked lol. the game is definitely hard. i went samurai and the challenge has been just perfect so far
Slex 02.25.22	I'm at Margit and this is motherfucking wild lol
Scheumke 02.25.22	Ok pretty much done with work. Now the long wait until the post arrives begins...
Gyromania 02.25.22	Played for 7 hours. Did a lot of caves, crypts and mines in Limgrave. Still haven't gotten to the Weeping Peninsula, nor did I see the East end of Limgrave or do the Legacy dungeon yet. Accidentally found a portal which took me way tf over to the desert region and I explored a chunk of that too but left when I realized I was grossly underleveled. Excited to see what you're all thinking of the game so far. Would keep playing but I can't keep my eyes open
Dewinged 02.25.22	In I go folks. Prophet.
Demon of the Fall 02.25.22	cheers Scheumke, nearly missed your comment I'll do some further research before considering diving in, also my mate has ordered it so I'll be playing by proxy/helping for the time being, lol... hate to be the annoying noob once again asking silly questions, but I have a very simple one... can you save your game anywhere? I feel like this will be a game of tiny, incremental progress towards an eventual end goal far off in the distance and I'm going to take it crazy slow, but don't want to have to replay areas at that tortoise like speed, might get tedious. I will probably die a lot and have to replay tough fights etc. but that's fine, just didn't want to lose too much of my progress.
Scheumke 02.25.22	The game has an autosafe feature I think, so you can easily just stop whenever you want to and start again where you left off. In terms of runbacks, that depends on where you die. I've heard Elden Ring is a lot more forgiving in terms of 'checkpoints' where you can respawn when you die.
Scheumke 02.25.22	Still no post ugh, my patience is being tested..
Demon of the Fall 02.25.22	cheers Schemuke, stay strong! yeah that's a point, good to know there are autosaves and it's a little more forgiving. I occasionally had trouble playing Persona 5 simply because there was often a point in the story where the cut-scenes went on forever and I couldn't save the damn thing, or I was stuck at a point in a palace (dungeon) where there wasn't a safe room. Time constraints and all that jazz, sometimes just need to dip in and out.
Slex 02.25.22	Just woke up sore as fuck on my couch because I literally could not pull myself away from this game and I guess I crashed at some point lol
Scheumke 02.25.22	Hahaha good morning ;). Time for some coffee and continuing I'm guessing?
Slex 02.25.22	So so tempted lol but I'm exhausted, crashing again so I can play more later. I have a week and a half of free time before I start my new job so I got time haha
Scheumke 02.25.22	Disc version never showed so I'm royally pissed off right now. Just bought the digital version, installing now. Grrrrrrrr
Slex 02.25.22	Damn dude that sucks! I decided screw it, I'm hopping back in lol. Haven't been this utterly owned by a game since RDR2 or something probably
Colton 02.25.22	slex have you killed any bosses yet
gschwen 02.25.22	I dunno if it's supposed to be like this, but I'm getting my ass handed to me repeatedly
Slex 02.25.22	Yeah like 3-4 Colton, don't think anyone of real consequence yet tho. I spent a few tries on Margit and got him a little under half every time but his reach and the delay on his hammer air attack are fucking stupid lol, went back to exploring
Colton 02.25.22	man I was stupidly high last night (buddy packed me a kief toke) and then during my turn I found this little thing where if you ride into it with your horse, it prompts you to jump. and then when you jump you go flying 100 feet into the air and just plummet to your death. it’s the most pointless and hilarious feature i’ve seen in a game, everyone was laughing their ass off
Slex 02.25.22	Lmao yeah I haven't gotten to use one of those yet but it looks dope Gotta say this game is starting to relentlessly annihilate me now lmao, but to be fair I'm just exploring everywhere and I'm definitely deep into some place I shouldn't be yet
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.25.22	I caved and bought this. I assumed it would run like shit on PS4 but I’ve been reading it runs as well as DS3 and Sekrio / better than Bloodborne and I haven’t really had any issues with any of the three. The fact that you get PS4 and PS5 version kinda made it seem pointless not to since I don’t see myself getting a PS5 for at least another year or two.
Slex 02.25.22	Alright yeah think I'm done exploring this area and going back to Limgrave lol I'm getting one shotted now Also yeah I've heard from a few friends it runs great on PS4
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.25.22	It was built for ps4 after all
JohnnyoftheWell 02.25.22	whew, that was a rough start. picked the bandit starter bc it had the lowest level and i've learned to love the dagger, then wandered around, killed the demihuman fuckheads, eventually got to margit, *then* finally worked out how to level. yuck. poked around in the deathchariot crypt place, but i'm heading right back up when i next sign in "Accidentally found a portal which took me way tf over to the desert region" oh yh, and also this crystal cave redux madness. did you find the flask seed in that area?
Slex 02.25.22	Lol never mind ganked it and got past where I was stuck, deeper into these wild ass caverns I go
rabidfish 02.25.22	Gonna get a ps4 an play this an bb at the same time, fuck it
WatchItExplode 02.25.22	I have managed to get myself horribly lost. Haven't even leveled up yet. Several hours in. Great times.
Slex 02.25.22	Hahaha I have no idea how I keep getting to all these different places
Underflow 02.25.22	lol how does this game look an entire console generation behind forbidden west AND run worse than that game on top of it. great game so far though but from needs a new engine.
Scheumke 02.25.22	You playing on PC? Heard there were some performance issues on pc. Got the ps5 version and it's running buttery smooth 60fps here. Graphics where never fromsofts strong suit but I don't mind it at all.
Underflow 02.25.22	I'm playing on ps5
rabidfish 02.25.22	Who tf cares about graphics Stfu
Slex 02.25.22	I'm playing on Series S and it's been so smooth so far tbh yeah
WatchItExplode 02.25.22	Hahaha oh my god 4 hours of gameplay in. I have discovered a maiden and now have the ability to call my ghost horse. I was like 500 miles away from where I was supposed to be
Slex 02.25.22	I have no idea where I am but it is impossibly huge and completely separate from the first map lol
WatchItExplode 02.25.22	I was in the city of sorcery getting one shot by grunt enemies that took 12 hits to kill
Slex 02.25.22	Lol yeah I did some of that place last night but eventually left
Colton 02.25.22	did you kill the weird cat boss slex
BaselineOOO 02.25.22	Mixed feelings so far. The difficulty curve basically forces you to grind, exploring everything in one area is not enough to decently level up. I BARELY beat Margit at sl15 as wretch with 2+ longsword, after having explored all Limgrave and beating all of the mini bosses. Wtf were From thinking?
Colton 02.25.22	they were thinking don’t be a little bitch
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.22	Yeah baseline don’t be a lil bitch, also getting lost sounds fun. Seems like a good game y’all are playing. Will have to try in a couple years.
Avagantamos 02.25.22	that difficulty is a game design tool. you can find a +7 weapon in Limgrave somewhere btw, I won't spoil it though
Hyperion1001 02.25.22	can someone give me $1000 dollars for a new PC thanks in advance dm for my cashapp.
Gyromania 02.25.22	"exploring everything in one area is not enough to decently level up" Completely untrue. I havent even gone up to Margit yet and I'm LVL 22 with a plus 4 weapon, and I can prob LVL it up even more if I wanted to
samwise2000 02.25.22	Played for about 4 hours now. Game is so good. Bosses around every corner, tons of secrets to find! Having a blast so far
samwise2000 02.25.22	anyone else on pc getting lower framerates in the open world sections? hope this gets patched
WatchItExplode 02.25.22	Open world frame rate is screwing with me. Big time honestly. Makes me a little motion sick. Powering through though cuz the game is amazing. Exploring all sorts of random places for hours now I feel I've actually started the game. Following where it wants me to killing things with flail.
WatchItExplode 02.25.22	Like I just discovered my first merchant and crafting/smithing ability
Gyromania 02.25.22	i'm 10 hours in now. doing stuff in the weeping peninsula and then going to explore the east end of limgrave before doing stormveil castle. i beat margit already though
Scheumke 02.25.22	I opened a chest somewhere and was teleported to a completely different area lol. Spend a little time there and went back. About 3/4 hours in and loving it too. Did 2 of the non-main path bosses (Tree Sentinal and Bloodhound Knight Derica or something) and there was nothing mini-boss about them. Both took about 45 min to get them down lol, this shit is hard. Only lvl 16 though so I think I should just follow the path the game wants me to for a bit. On a side note: neither gave me a kill trophy so I'm estimating a good 60+ bosses in this game.
Gyromania 02.25.22	yeah same here, it teleports you to a mine in caelid. you are wayyyy too underpowered to be there rn though, but i'm excited to go back and explore that place. yeah there's 30 trophy bosses (i've killed two so far) and i think around 40-50, though some are reskinned from what i've heard)
Gyromania 02.26.22	Some hard af bosses in this game
JohnnyoftheWell 02.26.22	anyone else found untethered bro?
Gyromania 02.26.22	hm?
zaruyache 02.26.22	alright show of hands who else got send to crystal jail
Gyromania 02.26.22	you mean the crystal cave in caelid?
Gyromania 02.26.22	what bosses have you guys faced so far? what have been your favourites/least favs?
gschwen 02.26.22	finally beat tree sentinel, can't even get close on beastman. hell i can barely scrape by the wolfpack outside. took down the zombie caravan crossing the bridge.
WatchItExplode 02.26.22	I resisted the urge to kill patches
Gyromania 02.26.22	for beastman: do jumping R2 attacks. you'll feel silly when you realize how easy it is. i was having issues there too before i knew the power of jump attacks
Gyromania 02.26.22	where is patches even?
JohnnyoftheWell 02.26.22	skulking around in a small cave near the gully where you kill the invader who drops maybe the best dagger ever seen in soulsborne i am happy
Scheumke 02.26.22	Just did the two beforementioned so far. Tree Sentinel was actually a lot harder than expected, but perfect to introduce you to mounted combat. Really enjoyed the fight with a clear attack pattern. The problem was not even the attacks, but the fact it took 789454987423 hits to take him down and my fight with him took a good 5 min. Bloodhound Knight (in the forlorn hound evergaol) was really fucking hard as a lvl 15 prisoner. Had to take off some armor to be able to quickroll because he has an unrelenting and quick moveset, and two shotted me on top of that. He's vulnerable to magic, but shadowsteps so often that most magic missed and I had to rely on the very limited windows it offered me to get a hit in edgewise. Gotta say I loved both fights and they are perfect for want I want from them. Very challenging for this early but no runback and no fear of losing my runes. Just let me smash my head against them in quick succession again and again until I get good enough, that's really how I want to see all bosses in this game tbh.
Scheumke 02.26.22	Just checked fextralife, and there are a whopping 83 named bosses and minibosses noted (so far, I see few names for the later regions yet). That is INSANE jeez I only just did 2 in 3,5 hours of playing.
BaselineOOO 02.26.22	I apologize to everybody cause I said the game needs grinding. Apparently it doesn't, there was just something wrong with my build I think. I started as wretch and played topless until I bought the knight armor from the roundtable. For some reason every decent enemy one/two shotted me before I was using this armor. That was the reason the game seemed extremely difficult to me. I don't know, it doesn't make sense, this new armor doesn't even add that much resistance... Maybe it's something else. Anyhow, now I can easily beat anything in the game and I think I'm overleveled.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.26.22	resistance is in ur heart anyone else tripping out over this siofra water paradise zonkpark
BaselineOOO 02.26.22	Now it's the opposite, I feel tanky as fuck at 22 vigor 20 strength. Is this normal? For example those giant bears need like 6-7 hits to kill me.
Gyromania 02.26.22	slex mentioned to me that siofra is gorgeous. i haven't gotten there yet. i've done everything in west limgrove, all of the weeping peninsula, and just beat stormveil castle, which i think is easily their best level to date - i spent like 3 hours here and i still didn't unlock every door and i miss a section entirely. i'm assuming this siofra area is in east limgrave? still haven't found patches either, unsure of whether i missed him
Scheumke 02.26.22	Good to know that Siofra is a good place to explore haha. I have literally 0 time to play today but I've got tomorrow and Monday off so I'll spend a lot of that time in ER. Intending to do mostly all there is to do in Limgrave before going to the castle. Just for reference Gyro, what level did you do Stormveil Castle at? Feel like leveling is a lot slower than previous games (expectedly so), so I don't want to go in too underleveled.
Gyromania 02.26.22	I was level 23 when I went in and 30 when I came out
Scheumke 02.26.22	Aight, yeah I'll do a little more farming and exploring before heading there then lol. I haven't been this obsessed with a game since.... hmm, I don't think I've ever been more obsessed with a game. 32 years old and hitting peak gaming excitement just now, bizarre (but awesome).
botb 02.26.22	Gameplay wise, best souls game?
Scheumke 02.26.22	Too early to tell for me, but what I love so far is that it mixes almost everything from previous games. It has the core of DS3 combat, mixed with some of the stealth from Sekiro and adding easier jumping attacks and very cool weapon arts. It all plays very smooth, as we've come to expect from fromsoft.
Slex 02.26.22	Did someone say Siofra? Holy shit I love that place SO much
JohnnyoftheWell 02.26.22	Just finished Stormveil and am gonna call it a day and finish the peninsula tomorrow. Some lovely boss fights so far - Margit gave me the most grief and i adore that dragon-graft powermove. ace shit. siofra is an awesome secret(ish) level but so big and so tough hmm, gonna explore properly later on anyone manage to get to the tower where you activate the great rune? also, shoutout to the coward lady and her chrysalid soldiers. classic fromsoft character arc, rly enjoyed the way it followed thru in stormveil. wonder if she'll stick around
botb 02.26.22	When it said “press x to jump” I audibly went “OOOOHHHHHHH”
Slex 02.26.22	Lmao
WatchItExplode 02.26.22	And now I got the uchi
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.26.22	Decided to do some ‘splorin and leveling before I let Margaret kick my ass some more and ran into the coolest boss yet, Ancient Forest Spirit or something like that, bad Sif / Moonlight Butterfly vibes, really atmospheric and pretty battle. The whole area that boss is in is absolutely gorgeous, and the dragon knight boss guy was cool too, watery horse fight arena and all
Slex 02.26.22	Yeah the dragon knight boss was pretty dope, so much of this game is so gorgeous
Gyromania 02.26.22	Oh yeah the elk thing, I forgot all about that. Saw it in the promotional trailers and it looks rly cool. Johnny: is it just me or was Godrick much easier than Margit? I loved the fight and the dragon moves were sick, but I only died once to him
Avagantamos 02.26.22	I also found Godrick a lot easier than Margit. I spend an hour or 2 trying to beat margit, but got Godrick on my 2nd try. He leaves himself vulnerable to attacks for larger windows than Margit does
WatchItExplode 02.26.22	Really wish I could actually connect online so I could see ghosts and blood stains and messages and stuff
Slex 02.26.22	Yeah I have not been able to go online literally once yet lol, does suck
WatchItExplode 02.26.22	You guys are playing much faster, much more or much differently than me because I'm just going into the storm front Castle
Avagantamos 02.26.22	I feel like I've gone at a pretty slow pace, just been playing like 14hrs a day lol
Slex 02.26.22	Yeah I played like 8 hours my first session but have only gotten to around 13 overall since then because I'm sick, will hopefully be able to play some more soon
Tw1ster 02.26.22	Jumped in for a couple hours today, got to tree sentinel, got fucked up. Went and got torrent, came back at level 10 and spent an hour beating him. I coulda just skipped him but I was having fun
Slex 02.26.22	Tree Sentinel is a bigger pain in the ass than I was expecting for sure, took a while to beat him at like lvl 8-9
Gyromania 02.27.22	Yeah I did not expect to beat Godrick on my second attempt but like you said there's more space and more opportunities to damage him. If you stayed in really close most of the time I don't doubt he'd be hard af. That transition cutscene was so badass. Also how are you guys not connected? I haven't been summoning or anything and I haven't gotten invaded (I think in this game you have to choose to be invaded, which is weird but prob helps with the insane amount of traffic), but I've been online since I first booted up the game. You should be immediately seeing notes and red blood stains etc
Slex 02.27.22	It just immediately tells me Network Test Failed every single time I try to connect, I dunno
Gyromania 02.27.22	if you leave the game client running, it'll do that. you just have to cancel the connection, then scroll down to the bottom and hit "log in"
Slex 02.27.22	Hmmm lol, will try again when I get the chance, felt like I had tried everything
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	Godrick was kinda hard for me bc I'm playing with a dagger for now, so had to stay close more than I'd have liked, but I found his tells easier to punish than Margit's, and the dragonfiresplurge was big time exploitable. He was the first boss in literal years to remind me I could use a shield, and that defs closed the gap kinda encouraged that I've explored a fair bit and haven't seen or heard of half the bosses y'all are mentioning. onwards, onwards
Colton 02.27.22	the cat boss in that one dungeon was fucking me up until I realized you can run while locked on to an enemy
Gyromania 02.27.22	is this your first fromsoft game?
Colton 02.27.22	I played Bloodborne for a bit. not sure exactly how far I got but I killed a good few bosses. somehow managed to kill Vicar Amelia on my first try lol
Colton 02.27.22	but I haven't played one in a long time
Gyromania 02.27.22	ngl i'm getting pretty fucking fed up of the game booting me to the main menu because my "lan cable" apparently isn't connected. this is obviously a bug in the game but it's been happening a fking lot on day 3
Colton 02.27.22	sounds like you're just bad tbh
Dewinged 02.27.22	Shit is completely fucking crazy, it's crack, can't sleep, can't eat, can't stop thinking about it when I am away from it . Pray for me friends. I still haven't beaten the first boss at the castle gate.
Gyromania 02.27.22	man, the ancestor spirit boss in the underground was kind of a joke i'm ngl. idk how to feel about that one. visually cool looking boss and area, but his moveset is so lackluster. after like a minute of fighting him i knew all of his moves
Slex 02.27.22	Damn that sounds pretty disappointing lol I love that area
Storm In A Teacup 02.27.22	Literally 60% of the s Sputnik userbase is playing this game right now lol
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	yes!! sput admin for the weekend done = time to get back to it
Storm In A Teacup 02.27.22	I hope you Elden well, Johnny.
Gyromania 02.27.22	where u at rn johnnyboi
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	thank u Storminateacup Castle just killed the Leonine Misbegotten (lol classic name), but think I accidentally skipped half the level including the main boss lol. hbu?
WatchItExplode 02.27.22	I was able to play online this evening. Half a dozen disconnects in 3 hours. I think I might go back to offline
Gyromania 02.27.22	I just beat the underground completely (unless there's more later). Did all of Limgrave now, and all of Weeping Peninsula, thinking of going into Liurnia of the Lakes now. I feel like I'm OP atm and rly hoping that isn't the case
gschwen 02.27.22	Man. Some dude invaded me and wrecked my shit. This is making me want to quit this game.
zaruyache 02.27.22	got killed by the first boss guy, went back to use a stone sword to unlock the area in the tutorial, got run over by a spiky machine thing. Thank you dark souls.
Gyromania 02.27.22	lol don't go there until much later. the boss at the end of that is extremely hard for early game
zaruyache 02.27.22	yeah well the big arm guy also pummeled me into the ground so :p Having jumping, rolling, spells, and summons is a bit overwhelming to my brain.
Gyromania 02.27.22	the patches encounter was fucking funny
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	I advise everybody to use a list so you don't miss any of the bosses after (you think) you're done with all the exploration in certain areas. i.imgur.com/YGklhA7.jpeg - this is my list so far! This is indeed the best From Software game. It perfectly combines what was good about DS1 (poise, armor matters again, interconnected areas), DS2 (power stancing, many groups of enemies - which I adore), DS3 (the rolling but slightly adjusted/nerfed, combat pace, vast enemy movesets) and Sekiro (stealth, level vistas).
Anthracks 02.27.22	Hey what are people finding to be the best weapons so far? Particularly for str builds
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	anyone else discovered this game's version of the DS2 gank squad?
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	One can only pray there will be a gank squad boss fight in this game too. Crowd control based fights are my dessert.
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	Stormveil was impressively vertical and intricated but, call me crazy, I didn't love it! I'm done with the area and I'm not looking forward on replaying it anytime too soon. It lacked personal details like rolling barrels traps, cheap deaths and actually interesting encounters (except the small one and the big one). I guess it just felt more like a Dark Soulified Sekiro area than anything...?
Gyromania 02.27.22	Weak take on stormveil castle. I thought it was easily one of their best levels. Absolutely massive, tons of secrets, great verticality, unique and fun enemies, cool boss and mini boss encounters, well connected shortcuts, beautiful architecture. I mean the legacy dungeons are those dark souls-like areas we've all come to know an love. Not sure what more you could ask for. A handful more traps would have enhanced the experience for sure but still it had some tricks. And cheap deaths are lame. I like the occasional "gotcha" but if you throw too many of those into a level you get something resembling the fishing hamlet in Nioh, which is essentially a huge middle finger to the player
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	"It lacked personal details like rolling barrels traps" ily. gyro, have you cracked the code to get into raya lucaria academy?
Colton 02.27.22	excited to play this again after work. kinda disappointed in how the game runs on ps4 though. I was fighting some dogs and they were moving at like 10 fps it felt like
Slex 02.27.22	I'm playing on Series S but I've heard turning Game Mode on yr TV helps with the FPS for all systems and it definitely made my experience almost buttery smooth
Colton 02.27.22	I will try that, otherwise might just get a ps5 but I’d rather not
WatchItExplode 02.27.22	First order of business for the day was to defeat godrick. Dudes a trip but I brought a party with me and he fell quickly
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	"Weak take on stormveil castle." Nooo Gyro, it's not a weak take, it's just my take!! I didn't meant to sound negative. Don't get me wrong, Stormveil is objectively a 10/10 game level, design-wise, it's just that I didn't like the layout + encounters as much as I hoped! I felt detached to it and in awe at the same time.
Slex 02.27.22	I wanna get into Stormveil so bad lol. Gonna lvl a lil more and do Morne first tho
WatchItExplode 02.27.22	I'll just say I was very happy to be done with stormvale. Just wandered into the Caelem ruins. This place is straight up the stuff of nightmares
Slex 02.27.22	There's some enemies in Liurnia I've seen that are pure nightmare fuel
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	Anyone else discovered the Siofra River area? The sights are jaw dropping to say the least.
Slex 02.27.22	Favorite area I've been in yeah lol
BaselineOOO 02.27.22	How do you deal with those archers? lol
loveisamixtape 02.27.22	10 minutes into it and have already died twice 🔥 should have warmed up with bloodborne
Slex 02.27.22	I run away from the archers lmao fuck them
Jamdbz 02.27.22	I can't stop playing
Avagantamos 02.27.22	"Anyone else discovered the Siofra River area? The sights are jaw dropping to say the least." yes! the elevator ride down there from mistwood was probably the most breathtaking view in the game so far for me
Gyromania 02.27.22	Johnny: I'm like right next to Raya Lucaria but I haven't gone to it yet because I want to find all the caves and what not in the surrounding area before progressing. Also holy fuck this area is hard. I've specifically not been leveling up my character beyond 40 or my weapon any more because I had way too easy a time in the underground but now I'm getting hard punished. I'm assuming there's a trick to getting in tho? Baseline: haha I hear ya. I think the only thing that disappointed me was the lack of interior space, if that makes sense. I kind of want a huge castle level that's a bunch of connected rooms and halls
Gyromania 02.27.22	I actually wasn't as big on Siofra. I think it's a beautiful area, I just found there wasn't a whole lot to do there. Cleared the whole thing out way sooner than I anticipated
Scheumke 02.27.22	Was finally able to get a good chunk of time in today. Got pretty much every miniboss in the left half of Limgrave plus the dragon and one of those Night Cavelry dudes. Also did a large portion of Siofra and indeed you get through it quite fast. Curious about the boss there though. Lvl 26 right now with a longsword with the spell that adds extra magic dmg, so I'm pretty happy with the battlemage quality build so far. Probably finishing up Siofra next and then heading to Stormveil. Don't want to get overleveled for it and I'm afraid if I go do everything in Limgrave I might be.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.27.22	think I was around that lvl when I completed Stormveil; you should be fine for it and @Gyro hmmm interesting, I didn't find the Liurnia area that hard but admittedly I didn't explore that much and came there after snooping around a lot of Caelid (holy fuck, ouch). will see what happens after work today anyone else enjoying that the Erdtree Avatar bosses are basically the asylum demons perfected?
DreamAgain 02.27.22	Is PC performance as bad as they say?
Tw1ster 02.27.22	Haven’t had a huge amount of time to play this weekend but in my 4 hours, I can already tell this will be an all timer for me. Just got through limgrave tunnels after getting my ass handed to me by Margit, and the amount of things to do is unparalleled by any other game. It’s performing well technically too on PS5, not even so much as a hiccup. The game looks and runs beautifully in my eyes. Then again, I’m completely oblivious to fps drops and what not, but it hasn’t stuttered or slowed the game down which is the only way I would notice. Love the overworld music as wel
WatchItExplode 02.28.22	Yeah I explored Caelid after beating storm veil and that place is just not for me at all. I did climb a crazy tower that had actual human enemies but I think that's about as much as I can manage till I come back in another 20 levels or so
Gyromania 02.28.22	"anyone else enjoying that the Erdtree Avatar bosses are basically the asylum demons perfected?" YES. and liurnia on the main path seems pretty mediocre challenge but some of the crypts in the surrounding area were big time frustrating. i was using a weaker weapon tho so as not to blast through the area, but still i hate those little stone gargoyles
Flugmorph 02.28.22	Todays nuclear threats taught me that life is short so I bought this damn game. Almost finished downloading now. Just two more hours of sleep.
DreamAgain 02.28.22	I love how I'll penny pinch over as little as 3-5$ for a game then turn around and waste that much without a thought at the grocery store or something.
Gyromania 02.28.22	the user reviews on metacritic are so cringe
Gyromania 02.28.22	who's playing rn?
Dewinged 02.28.22	I wish. Also you guys are unbelievably fast, I just beat goddamn Magrit at lvl 23 after 15 hours. I died like 40 times to the fucker.
Gyromania 02.28.22	git gud scrub. fr tho i'm like 35 hours in and just getting to raya lucaria (also johnny, i found where to go just by looking at the map, headed there now). my friend who's nearly beat the game told me the back half is just as long as the first half which kind of blew my mind
BaselineOOO 02.28.22	Siofra is basically Shrine of Amana perfected AHAHAHA. Another proof that this game is just Dark Souls II 2!
Gyromania 02.28.22	i can't think of a greater insult to this game than comparing it to ds2
Slex 02.28.22	Lmao I really like DS2
WatchItExplode 02.28.22	No, it's just all from soft's greatest hits remix. Seriously though, I think I'm going to be playing this game into April
Slex 02.28.22	Yeah that's a fair assessment for me to at least but probably longer maybe
Dewinged 02.28.22	I think I am gonna be playing this game into retirement (which might be sooner than later if I keep sleep depriving meself)
zaruyache 02.28.22	I beat Margit, and then got knifed by some birds. that was what I did today.
WatchItExplode 02.28.22	When I talk to the one dude about five great lords in their areas I'm like dude. I'm just barely getting my feet under me. You gonna lay this trip on me?
BaselineOOO 02.28.22	Renna is the coolest witch I've ever seen... I want to (be her) dress as her so much next Halloween. From should create more fantasy nonhuman NPCs. Does she appear again? I miss her a bit.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.28.22	"also johnny, i found where to go just by looking at the map, headed there now" haha, whut where? i started at the map for entire minutes of my life trying to find it, does this come with a certificate of dumbness Does she appear again? I miss her a bit. [2] ahrd
Gyromania 02.28.22	lol well i noticed the one thing in the note looked like a diamond and the other thing next to it looked a bit like a puzzle piece, and that their orientation was to the left of raya lucaria and to the left of the academy gate town. look directly left of the academy and then look at the meeting place map and you'll feel silly :P
Mort. 02.28.22	'I beat Margit, and then got knifed by some birds. that was what I did today.' lol same. fucking knife birds
Slex 02.28.22	Yeah I hate those fuckers lol
JohnnyoftheWell 02.28.22	okay i finally figured out how to find area maps lol. fuckin geography. enjoying how the horse is finally fromsoft's key to fun dragon fights. get fucked, midir
Mort. 02.28.22	yeh they finally worked out that fighting very mobile creatures on foot sort of sucks
Tw1ster 02.28.22	Where did you guys all go to level up? I’m currently level 20, attempted Margit maybe 5 times and have decided to go level up a bit more in Limgrave. Any hotspots other than the tunnels and dragon ruins?
Slex 02.28.22	Yeah dude, the Weeping Peninsula and Castle Morne Been super sick all weekend but finally get to do another marathon session today I think
Tw1ster 02.28.22	Wicked! I’ll head there right after work m/
Veldin 02.28.22	Level 40, 18 hours. Absolute masterpiece. THE THINGS IVE SEEN.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.28.22	Castle Morne was a pushover tbh, kinda disappointed me Infiltrating Redmayne Castle on the other hand, phwoar. Peak soulsborne content right there
BaselineOOO 02.28.22	Castle Morne was alright but kinda useless, ja, the npc quest and boss too, ja.
SaveBandit 02.28.22	Basically spent Friday through Sunday playing as much as I could. I think I'm like level 58 or something like that. Really having a fucking blast with the twinblades. Definitely want to try out the socereries whenever I make my next character though, they look incredible.
loveisamixtape 02.28.22	like 5 hours in at this point and having my mind blown every 15 min by something
zakalwe 02.28.22	Packed in my gaming days but this drew me back in due to how much I loved Dark Souls I,III and Bloodbourne so I thought fuck it and am running it off bootcamp. Very Dark Souls III at the minute, genuinely shocked about being able to jump and I have a feeling it’ll be another few years of me life drained playing this fucker.
Scheumke 02.28.22	Just did Margit, his second phase is very interesting. Took me about 6/7 tries to get him down. Do you guys use spirit summons or is that considered 'easy mode' haha? Found Margit a lot easier with a couple of dudes that could take the aggro in phase 2. Stil not nearly done with everything in Limgrave and I haven't even touched the Weeping Peninsula yet but it feels like I need to move on and I want to get going into Stormveil Castle so that's up next.
Anthracks 02.28.22	horse makes all those field battles a total pushover, so i'm not sure i'd consider that more fun. i did not feel satisfied after taking out agheel dragon in 2 minutes by looping around its heels like an idiot
Anthracks 02.28.22	summoning of any kind, including those ghost things, is definitely easy mode. i'm not personally going to do it my first time through
Gyromania 02.28.22	renalla is such a sick boss. excited for you all to play through raya lucaria
Mort. 02.28.22	i just got my ass handed to me by godric, fucking hell.
rufinthefury 02.28.22	Southern part of the map was amazing. Stormveil was RIDICULOUS, I can't believe that's just the first castle. Yeah this game is fire. It's exactly what I wanted and more, I can't believe it.
Gyromania 02.28.22	i've beat godrick 7 times now, such a fun boss
JohnnyoftheWell 02.28.22	as in you've already made seven characters, or reloaded a save file?? got into Raya Lucaria last night but had to stop; itching to get out of work today. the big-hat puppeteer miniboss in the tower in east Liurnia has maybe given me the most stress of anything in the game so far lol
Mort. 02.28.22	yeah he is very fun so far but im giving him a break to go and explore. just went down a massive elevator to some springs or well or something? honestly wondering whether i should have chosen a different starting character tho. i chose prisoner and honestly just wish i would have gone for a more straighforward strength sort of guy
Avagantamos 02.28.22	just finished raya lucaria. took me a while to figure out how to even damage renalla on the first phase lol, but phase 2 was really fun.
SaveBandit 02.28.22	Renalla was a fun boss fight, agreed. I think Margit gave me the most trouble so far, but even then it wasn't rage inducing or anything lol. I love that I have like 30 hour into this game so far and I still feel like I've barely made a dent. The world is huge and gorgeous and there's a lot of areas (particularly northeast) that look... stressful lol.
Gyromania 02.28.22	Johnny: just helping other people out
Gyromania 02.28.22	You're talking about the tower of Caria or w.e it's called? Dude fuck that guy. I tried for 30 minutes and just left. Everything he does one shots me and I do next to no damage to him with my 350 damage halberd at LVL 50
SaveBandit 02.28.22	Mort - Quality builds are always the way to go on the first playthrough of a Souls game imo. You get to try out basically all of the melee weapons and see which ones you like. That's what I'm doing right now and I've been sticking with the basic Twinblade. Definitely want to experiment more with the Twinblade variations and maybe some of the axes. I know powerstancing is back in a big way, so definitely want to dual wield some axes and go full barbarian sometime.
Gyromania 02.28.22	Yeah I haven't even tried power stancing yet BUT I've been checking out every weapon as I get them, becaus most of them are very unique. Been reading a lot of descriptions and checking new items constantly too (unless they're just crafting materials). And SaveBandit I can't believe we're both 30+ hours in and have only just gotten past Raya Lucaria. Aren't they're supposed to be 6 legacy dungeons in this game? God damn. I've only completed like 6 of the 30 trophy bosses so far
Mort. 02.28.22	lol game is too big and sorry bandit what do you mean by a quality build?
BaselineOOO 03.01.22	Power stancing is easy mode tbh and the animation quality of these attacks is the stuff of dreams btw. Imo in this game you gotta be aggressive, otherwise the crazy chain attacks of enemies will eventually get you, no matter how hard you try (at least on your first run). Powerstancing simply provides you with jerk damage and movesets so yeah, fight fire with fire.
Gyromania 03.01.22	yeah i've been winning a lot of encounters just due to hyper armour. i'm fine with tanking some damage if it means i can easily kill enemies.
SaveBandit 03.01.22	Quality build is where you go split dex and strength about evenly. That way you have enough strength to use almost all of the strength weapons (minus the colossal types that require 50+) and also have enough dex to use almost all of the dex weapons (minus the odd few that probably exist and I haven't found that require 40-50+ dex). And yeah dude I can't believe it. I'm like 11% complete on trophies lmao. Just a truly massive game.
Colton 03.01.22	https://ibb.co/P4DRgnK
Gyromania 03.01.22	LMAO. yeah pumpkin head, what a wall he was. struggled for hours
samwise2000 03.01.22	about 35 hours in, lvl 50. Finding my decision to do an intellegence/ strength build hasnt really payed off yet, might have to respec at raya lucaria. A lot of the best spells, like the comets need a lot of intelligence that is hard to get unless i had soley invested in that skill, which isnt viable early game. The early level spells kinda suck, so ive been meleeing most bosses. Also yea Gyro, that guy at Caria Manor is annoying as hell, doesnt leave a lot of openings so the best option i found is to just go in with jumping attacks then dip. At least, thats what i did lol
WatchItExplode 03.01.22	Some of you in this thread are ridiculous. I'm just going to say whenever an area or boss is giving me a hard time out come the wolves.
WatchItExplode 03.01.22	I'll do low level solo challenges next year when I get around to my second playthrough
Veldin 03.01.22	https://youtu.be/9LJKbLEOB60 Vid I uploaded of me beating Godrick. Fourth attempt. The heavy jump attacks are incredible, been using them frequently. Also have a talisman that increases their attack power. Fully explored* Limgrave, Weeping Peninsula, and Lake of Liurina. Beat Stormveil and Morne Caste, just started the Academy. Level 45, 9 flasks (+5). Strength/Vigor build, but I’ve been dumping a bunch into Dex lately, might respec when giving the chance. There’s apparently about 85 bosses and at this point I couldn’t tell you how many bosses I’ve beaten lol. Hoping all these bosses don’t ruin boss rankings in future. I’d only include bosses that give trophies. Had a vid spoil a late game secret boss and it looks AMAZING
Veldin 03.01.22	Also, shouldn’t a thread with 600+ comments get featured? Lol cheers Tarnished
Gyromania 03.01.22	^ yes! this game continues to blow my mind. every time i think "there can't be THAT much more to see and do now", i round a corner or go up an elevator and my expecations are completely shattered. there is just so much to see and do. been taking some screenshots along the way because god damn this game looks beautiful in some areas, esp if the time of day and weather conditions are just right
JohnnyoftheWell 03.01.22	heh okay belated feature, up we go 90 mins until i clock up and see what's up in the academy mmmhm anyone else found the liurnia part of the underground and that fuckin BOSS
Gyromania 03.01.22	ty johnny < 3 and lol dude i literally just beat that boss like 15 mins ago. i was keeping my distance and attacking when i could, thinking that shit was impossible and i needed to do something special like parry or use fire or something, but then it clicked and it became easy. i like those bosses that make you think
Colton 03.01.22	Darriwar is an asshole
Avagantamos 03.01.22	so many instances of dying when the boss has a pixel of hp left, more so than any souls game
Gyromania 03.01.22	the second huge underground level blew me away. one of the best things they've made
Scheumke 03.01.22	Owh man Avagantamos I feel you! The first two bosses had me die twice per boss with just one hit away from killing it. Frustrating af but luckily didn't happen to me since haha.
Scheumke 03.01.22	@Gyro, there is another underground level :O. They really went above and beyond didn't they? There is so much here where I go: They didn't have to do this, we wouldn't have missed it if they didn't, but it's here and that's sooo coool :D
Anthracks 03.01.22	Hogwarts was definitely my favorite part of the game so far. The Burger King enemies were hilarious and Queen was a great boss.
Anthracks 03.01.22	I have a feeling we will see a Bloodborne 2 in this same style within the next like three years. Then probs Elden Ring 2 in like 2028
Effigy 03.01.22	Margit made me uninstall.
Scheumke 03.01.22	A boss that's twice as hard as Orphan of Koss would not make me able to uninstall at this point lol. I don't care anymore how hard it gets, just let me soak in all the gravy that is ER haha.
Effigy 03.01.22	I beat OoK on ng+ but this destroyed me
Slex 03.01.22	Yeah I am probably about halfway thru the Academy right now and god I love it, can't wait to get to Renalla
Scheumke 03.01.22	How though? What level are you trying to do him and what's your strategy? I did him as a lvl 27 with spirit summons on phase two and had him in 6/7 tries. OoK took me 5 hours lol. You just need a distraction for his eratic second half. First half should be very doable without taking much dmg, his tells are very obvious.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.01.22	Rennala was a fab fight, ig she counts as one of From's gimmick bosses, but she's easily top tier. Enjoy the aftermath of the fight also Not really sure where to go now, given that I'm still getting hammered in Caelid. Up the lift ig...
Slex 03.01.22	The most clearly underlevelled I've been is when I went to Caria Manor, those giant hands fucking annihilated me lol
Effigy 03.01.22	15 with no upgrade, spirit or anything. I think I need a good walkthrough and lvling guide. Probably a build guide also since I'm clueless with fromsoft games.
Slex 03.01.22	Oh yeah dude you are underlevelled big time for that fight
Slex 03.01.22	Fextra and fightingcowboy on YT have had really great build guides and walkthroughs for From beginners
ZobyTiegler 03.01.22	lol abslutely the best video game ever made
Scheumke 03.01.22	I saw a beginners guide on Gamespot that was also really spot on from my experience in Limgrave. Gives you all the right tools to get properly going.
Devastator 03.01.22	Finally beat Godrick last night and I've spent like 20 hours just fucking around in Limegrave. Game is unbelievable. Anyone know if you can get Blaidd's sword without killing him?
SaveBandit 03.01.22	It's wild... I feel like I'm never going to actually "finish" this game lol. There are so many weapons, sorcereries, and incantations that I want to try out but it feels like each new character is going to require like 100+ hours to properly build out. And that's without NG+ lmao. It's going to be a hell of a ride for the next 20 years I guess.
Anthracks 03.01.22	margit is definitely doable at 15 or so i think that's about where i did it. you just have to be perfect. you can really only let him chip you with his spin move on phase 2. i refuse to use those summon things. it's cheating lol honestly, i haven't felt challenged by anything after margit. hoping that changes soon. i'm not gonna sequence break just to make the game harder though. still game is overwhelmingly gorgeous and large
Effigy 03.01.22	"You just have to be perfect" words to live by lmao
Colton 03.01.22	I went to a tunnel in Caelid where the enemies are fucked and there’s no way to fast travel out yay
Slex 03.01.22	I'm actually kinda wrecking Caelid now after doing most of Lucaria Academy and leveling up a bunch, feels fucking nice lol
Colton 03.01.22	have you fought the dragon boss there yet?
SaveBandit 03.01.22	Caelid is super intimidating if you accidentally stumble into it too early. I'm like level 60 and I'm still intimidated by it lmao. Should probably make my way over there soon.
Devastator 03.01.22	Got teleported to a mine there by accident and walked out. Took one look at everything and peaced he fuck out.
Colton 03.01.22	the difficulty of this game makes levelling a lot more satisfying than in other RPGs. one aspect of it that makes it so addicting
Scheumke 03.01.22	It's getting a little ridiculus. I'm a good 13 hours in and decided after doing Margit that I want to do everything I can do fist. I still have about a third of the weeping peninsula + castle Morne to do, half of Siofra and pretty much all of Storm Hill. I think I'll be close to 20 hours in before I'll even start on Stormveil Castle and I'm not that slow a player. Sickest thing is that I'm not even getting tired of all the things to explore in the same area and environment yet.
Veldin 03.01.22	Level 51 now, recently beat Rennala (at lvl 48), absolutely incredible boss. From/Miyazaki should make a Castlevania game lol. Gonna upload my fight with her soon and I’ll post here. I think I’m gonna head to the Manor next. Working on Blaidds quest line atm. Other than recently beating SMT 3 Nocturne Remaster last year, I haven’t enjoyed and been engaged with a video game like this in a long time. Due to the open word structure, I’ve found that I think I’m getting OP for areas, like the Academy was very easy and both bosses were cake walks, though still really fun. I’m sure I’ll eat those words soon, but it’s something I’ve noticed. I haven’t had any trouble with any boss or mini boss since Margit and I assume that was so because it’s one of the earliest bosses
Gyromania 03.01.22	Sometimes I use weaker weapons to 1) experiment with more stuff, and 2) nerf myself a bit lol. Just beat the manor, did the four belfries (incredible finds here), did the second underground, went up that mining town on the side of the cliff and fought the boss at the top and unlocked the new area. Gonna beat Caelid before I continue progressing northeast. Hoping there's lots of good stuff to do there, it seemed noticeably emptied than Limgrave when I first went there
Colton 03.01.22	crucible knight is fuckin hard
Colton 03.01.22	yo fuck crucible knight
Slex 03.01.22	Lmaooo I'm stuck there too like literally rn
Gyromania 03.01.22	At the evergaol in stormhill? He's the only boss I've struggled with so far lol. It was early game tho and I was like lvl 16 fighting him. He's sick af, I love his moveset and his second fast rly turns up the heat.
Gyromania 03.01.22	Has anyone else noticed blue rays coming from the sky at several points sometimes? It's something I've only seen a few times and idk if it means something or not
WatchItExplode 03.02.22	Peace out people. It's been fun. I can't play now until this weekend and I want my discovery of new areas to be surprising and exciting. I'll check in with y'all further down the road but going back to no spoiler mode
Anthracks 03.02.22	That boss in the Liurnia River was fucking awesome
Veldin 03.02.22	Just did the Magma Wyrm and that was really cool. What’s the name of the second big underground area y’all have been talking about? I did Sofias Well, is it similar to that bc that was dope. Which boss are you referring to Anthracks?? Gyro, by blue rays do you mean attacking from the sky? Then yes. Also had lightning attack me from sky lol No idea what it’s from.
zaruyache 03.02.22	I found the twinblade yesterday and killed the runebear boss yesterday. spinny sword ftw
foxblood 03.02.22	I wish I could enjoy new games:/ I have a ps4 but I'm not a fan. everything past the ps2/xbox/gamecube generation has just completely lost me, I usually just play NES or Genesis. wish I could join the hype but I'm glad everyone is happy with this game it seems.
Gyromania 03.02.22	ainsel river, i think it's called. and it's similar only in that it's underground and there's water. i prefer this new one, it was more linear in a sense (although tbh there wasn't too much to do in that open space in soifra). and no, they aren't attacks, just beams of blue light i can see from miles away. doesn't happen very often
Gyromania 03.02.22	speaking of twinblades: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t3zdoy/so_i_found_out_that_using_the_twinblade/
zaruyache 03.02.22	fox have you tried dark souls? it's ugly, clunky, and user-unfriendly in an aggravating old school way you might appreciate lol.
Veldin 03.02.22	Thanks for the info Gyro. My bestie is rocking the twinblade. I’m currently using Bloodhounds Fang +4 and loving it
Veldin 03.02.22	Yeah playing Dark Souls 1 for first time was like playing Zelda Ocarina of Time as a kid: overwhelming, confusing, and absolutely awe-inspiring. There’s a convenient Remaster on PS4 that’s probably pretty affordable these days.
zaruyache 03.02.22	darth maul was what i was wanting yea, gonna keep an eye out for that one. I've never done a proper caster in one of these games before so my plan is some sort of spellsword. we'll see how long my attention stays on the spinny sword tho.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.02.22	"just beams of blue light i can see from miles away. doesn't happen very often" you mean like when you put a marker on the map? comes with a visual sign as well as a compass prompt, usually pretty easy to see from wherever
Gyromania 03.02.22	nah not that, you guys will see what i'm saying at some point when you're exploring north liurnia
foxblood 03.02.22	yeah I had demon souls when it came out and played dark souls 1 and 2. They are not necessarily bad but I don't like them, but I get what you're saying.
Gyromania 03.02.22	Idk how anyone could dislike or be lukewarm to this game, it just doesn't register in my brain!
Morningrise767 03.02.22	what kind of dog is this?
zaruyache 03.02.22	I saw one of those phantom beacons today, too! I was in the NE most region, teleported there to meet the beast clergyman guy, and spied it on the other side of the ocean cliffside from my vantage point high up. I really wanted to see what it was (maybe to do with the tree nearby?), and I had not yet acquired this piece of the map, so my way was unknown. I sped Torrent down the road, past a dragon, past another mini-boss, past the tree, down the road, dodging spell and dragons feeble and mighty (O Midir, sleep well!). I rested beneath the carcass of one of those mighty beasts of flame and wing, and again pointed Torrent in the direction of the mysterious pane of light. It seemed to get further away the longer I raced toward it, its true distance a trick of the altitude from my original point's vantage. I forced my way past dragonic abominations to the top of a plateau to calculate my true destination. I opened my map once again, hoping maybe it resided in the known regions of my journeys, instead of the brownish unknown. I scourged my eyes, straight as the wyvern flies, and found the source of the phantasmic column of grace! Huzzah! It was my own beacon after all and there went half an hour of my life oops. Oh well, at least I got to see some terrifying sights that I'll have to come back to waaaaaaay later on.
Tw1ster 03.02.22	Just took out Margit with my wolf spirits at level 24. Leveled my sword up to +6 so that helped immensely. Thought I’d be tough enough to give Magma Wyrm another shot and got stomped. He’s in Capra Demon territory of cheapness for me so far
zaruyache 03.02.22	i can't find enough of the smithing stone things to get my twinblade beyond +4 ://///////
Slex 03.02.22	I am also stuck at +4 with my Uchi and annoyed about it lol
TheGreatQ 03.02.22	I’m not a fromsoft fanboy but this game rules
Slex 03.02.22	They finally topped Bloodborne the mad lads
Gyromania 03.02.22	yeah every time i glimpse those beacons they seem miles off, never tried riding to one. i mean i did the one time but they disappeared as i thought i was getting close. has anyone done the tower in caelid yet? it's basically the best platforming fromsoft has done. gotta say these towers are a massive highlight for me. the first one by stormveil was neat but nothing rly special, i didn't expect them to mix them up this much though, each one has been distinct and fun in its own way
Gyromania 03.02.22	slex and zaruyache: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing+Stone+(4)
Veldin 03.02.22	https://youtu.be/252wI1ysHV8 Veldin Vs Rennala
Veldin 03.02.22	I just found a Uchi katana and impulsively leveled it up to +13 lol WORTH IT Hella smith stones in mines like Gael Tunnel
Tw1ster 03.02.22	This game could be the most I’ve ever thought of a game when I’m not playing it. Constantly thinking about it
Gyromania 03.02.22	lol same. the boss at the end of the divine tower of caelid is my favourite in the game so far. so damn cool
JohnnyoftheWell 03.02.22	feck, i forgot to work out how to get to the Stormveil divine tower. guess that's today's first call
Colton 03.02.22	what an absolute pisswagon of a boss crucible knight is
Veldin 03.02.22	Dat tail tho
rufinthefury 03.02.22	Crucible Knight was a hard one but honestly the strategy is really simple: Parry, crit, light attack, repeat. You do that for literally the entire fight, just dodge everything you cant parry but you can parry most of his attacks.
rufinthefury 03.02.22	Str Faith build using the Winged Scythe is fucking badass btw
Gyromania 03.02.22	lol colton hate to sound like a dick but git gud man. study his moves, be patient. it's a totally fair boss fight you just have to learn his moves and how to punish them
BaselineOOO 03.02.22	Crucible Knight - roll 4 times on his shield side and chip two hits and then back out. Do not heal until the 2nd phase. He's a quite low IQ boss tbh. EZ
BaselineOOO 03.02.22	If you're sensible to stuttering - limit your fps to 30fps on PC if you want to achieve perfect frametimes - just like with Dark Souls III. 60fps on any PC will stutter to some extent.
Anthracks 03.02.22	Yes, Ainsel River. I also did Ainsel before Sofia (sp) so it was even more of a surprise. Also, Bloodborne is the least great Soulsborne IMO. Still awesome, but definitely not the benchmark for the series. All the bosses were pushovers, there was like zero build and equipment variety. Definitely the most straight forward
Scheumke 03.02.22	Dude, the old hunters is the best Fromsoft content prior to Elden Ring, what are you smoking haha. Also the atmosphere was the best in any fromsoft game. Agree with the bosses in the main game being too easy though, but the levels themselves where hard af at times.
Anthracks 03.02.22	Atmosphere was the best thing about it. Old Hunters was also very easy. Dude what level are you supposed to be at to fight Black Blade Kindred? I’m 75 and haven’t even gotten it to half HP
Slex 03.02.22	Yeah Bloodborne is in my top 10 games ever because of the world and lore Also the game is hard as fuck and i won't be told otherwise lmao
Anthracks 03.02.22	Was it your first Soulsborne? Not being an ass, just I think its difficult reputation comes from the fact that it was most people’s first. Which I guess is in itself an argument for it being difficult, but i played it after every souls game and steamrolled everything.
SaveBandit 03.02.22	I absolutely love Bloodborne, but yeah I agree with you Anthracks. I played all of the DS games first and Bloodborne was a walk in the park. Basically smacked every boss in one or two tries, except Gehrman which took a handful because he's so damn fast lol.
Anthracks 03.02.22	Whereas no amount of preparation prepared me for the ass whooping I got from Sekiro
brainmelter 03.02.22	Bloodborne is great no doubt, but yea by far the least hard game in series for me
Scheumke 03.02.22	You guys are telling me you're having no trouble with Ludwig, Laurance, Lady Maria or Orphan of Kos? I did Old Hunters after Sekiro and all the others, and Kos was more difficult than anything in Sekiro for me.
Gyromania 03.02.22	Damn anthracks that ain't a good take! Bloodborne has tons of variety for combat, every weapon is unique and arcane/bloodtinge builds are very much a thing. And yeah old hunters is their best dlc bar none. Besides Sekiro it was their best game prior to Elden Ring imo.
SaveBandit 03.02.22	I wasn't including the DLC in my last comment lol. The DLC was fantastic. Definitely more challenging than the base game. And heck yeah Gyro. Sekiro didn't do much for me honestly... but the variation in combat in Bloodborne is top tier. You can play in so many different ways it's incredible.
Slex 03.02.22	Yeah to be fair Bloodborne was the first From game that I fully beat. I played a good amount of DS2 beforehand but never finished it Sekiro was impossible for me because I couldn't master the parry lol
Gyromania 03.02.22	sekiro is just their best game combat-wise and it's not even close imo. if they don't make another sekiro game or take the deflect mechanic from it and adapt it to something else, it will be a huge waste of one of the best gameplay mechanics of all time imo. the deflect takes time for new players but sticking with it is probably the most rewarded i've ever felt in a game
Anthracks 03.02.22	I beat orphan of kos on my second try. The only other boss to kill me in the dlc was those mushroom alien people or whatever lol
Slex 03.02.22	That's fucking impressive lol
SaveBandit 03.02.22	I liked the deflect mechanic, that was cool. My biggest gripe with Sekiro was that it didn't have my favorite part of souls games and RPG's in general. Stats, builds, different weapons to try, spells, etc.
Gyromania 03.02.22	yeah idk that didn't bother me considering the combat is better than anything you can do in any souls game. i get it though, it's nice to have agency over that sort of thing. still feel that with all the items, insane amount of combat arts, prosthetic tools, etc., that there was just as much if not more variety there. only thing you were restricted on was using a katana.
Gyromania 03.02.22	about to fight general radahn wish me luck!
BaselineOOO 03.02.22	Did you guys beat the Ghibli Moose boss? I felt so sorry putting that ugly-ass beast out of his misery lmao!
Colton 03.02.22	looking forward to another night of getting my ass kicked by Crucible Bitch and Bitchgit tonight
Colton 03.02.22	I don't mind the challenge I just don't understand why bosses like Tibia Mariner are in the same game as those guys lol
Gyromania 03.02.22	Radahn is just built different. Like holy shit the leap in difficulty is massive. He makes early game bosses like Margit and Godrick look like a joke by comparison
trilo 03.02.22	Radahn is a trash fire of a fight in an otherwise near-immaculate game. it's not fun at all. probably the worst fight they've ever made, maybe bottom 3 at best. at least with their shit fights in previous games they're usually easy. this one is just everything bad rolled into one.
Colton 03.02.22	every fight is the worst fight in video game history until I win
trilo 03.02.22	big facts except radahn. no triumphant victory after that fight. just a sigh of relief that i don't have to do it again
Anthracks 03.02.22	Doing Radahn right now. Definitely one of those most unfair fights they’ve engineered in any of their games. Not sure how I feel about it, but it doesn’t feel like a test of skill or patience as much as luck
trilo 03.02.22	yeah it's just bad. shame too because the ~spectacle~ is incredible.
Gyromania 03.02.22	Lol yeah basically what Colton said. You're just big time mad rn because you're prob bad at fighting him. I can't remember how much Sword Saint pissed me off before I beat him. Now? I consider him maybe their best boss
Gyromania 03.02.22	I mean sometimes their bosses are just hard for bs reasons (Lawrence), but Radahn has been kicking my ass for an hour and I don't think he's badly made, I'm just shit at dodging his moves
Anthracks 03.02.22	How do we dodge his form change? It OHKO me every time
trilo 03.02.22	??? i already beat him lol. i died far more times to Margit than i did Radahn tbh so it's not a question of difficulty. it's just a bad fight. relentless combos on a boss that's 10x your size making it frustratingly difficult to dodge because you can't see anything. add in lame one shot mechanics (asteroid things 2nd phase) and the fact it's literally designed for you to use all the wonky-AI summons (because ~lore~) and you have a recipe for a shit fight. it's ok to admit the game has flaws we don't need to gargle FromSoft's balls just because there's a bad fight in the game.
Gyromania 03.02.22	You died more to Margit than Radahn? Lol how. Were you just way OP when you did it? Because his combos are way longer and hit 10x harder than Margit
trilo 03.02.22	@anthracks when he turns into a meteor? i just rotated my camera until i saw him in the sky and ran away behind a hill or whatever
Anthracks 03.02.22	Definitely team poorly designed fight. I’ve never changed my mind on the mechanics of a boss fight just because I beat them, lol.
trilo 03.02.22	@gyro bro margit fucked me uuuup. i think i went in underleveled and i also was playing it more like a regular souls game than engaging in the new mechanics. i beat him the first try i started using jumping attacks lmao. they are so busted in this game.
Avagantamos 03.02.22	in case anyone didn't realise yet, you have i-frames when mounting (and dismounting) torrent, so that can be a great way to dodge big aoe attacks anyone else playing sorcery? a lot of cool spells, but I've found that glintstone pebble is the most viable choice for like 75% of encounters
Anthracks 03.02.22	Bro the meteor gets me every time idk what you’re talking about run behind a hill you have like three seconds flat to react
Anthracks 03.02.22	Whew the meteor didn’t hit me for no obvious reason and I was able to finish him off quickly. The only hard part of the fight is that meteor dodge lmao. Everything else is just summon luck mash
trilo 03.02.22	yeah idk as soon as he goes to phase 2 i mount up and stay near a hill and use it as cover. i never got hit by the form change. it was always the frickin asteroids in the 2nd phase that got me.
trilo 03.02.22	oh nice you got him! yeah a lot of summon luck. i did the whole thing on horseback just running around getting one hit in during his half second attack cooldowns. 2nd phase i ran around until the asteroids went away and then i moved back in. whole lot of RNG, hope & prayers otherwise lol
Anthracks 03.02.22	Margit also took me more tries. I was also pretty undeveloped and kinda fought him right away
Avagantamos 03.02.22	is it even possible to dodge his big arrows on torrent at the start of the fight? anyway I finally got within melee range of him and LOOOOOOOL his poor little horse!
trilo 03.02.22	if you're a ultra greatsword boi like me after Radahn you can go into the chapel behind the announcer in Redmane Castle and exhaust his dialogue. port back to the grace and you'll have a boss fight in that courtyard. reward is a big ass stone sword with really good scaling & special @ava the single magic arrow i don't think. you use the debris to block it. the rain of arrows you can by just running the opposite way as fast as possible
DocSportello 03.02.22	I've played and finished Demon's Souls, DS123, Bloodborne, Sekiro, but holy balls Elden Ring is hard
Colton 03.02.22	I WILL DEFEAT CRUCIBLE KNIGHT TODAY NOTHING CAN STOP ME AND NO I WILL NOT PARRY CAUSE APRRYING IS OFR UPUSSIES
Anthracks 03.02.22	I used roll to dodge the purple arrows when not behind the wood. Thanks for the tip on the UGS. Is it better than the Grafted?
Colton 03.02.22	i swear to fucking god i'm beating him
trilo 03.02.22	@anthracks yeah it starts with B scaling and goes up to A with upgrades (maybe S at max?). the special is better as well imo it's a big purple wave of lightning that hits pretty hard. requires 50 str and 16 int. i respecced to use it cuz it looks cool as heck
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	Here I am cannot defeat Margit lmao
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	Altho I did learn today that I should roll INTO him, not away so will try that later
Colton 03.02.22	that’s true of most bosses i think
Anthracks 03.02.22	Pretty much you want to be on every boss’ dick in this game
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	Hmm okay, I'm only like level 17, I beat some of the dungeon bosses, the cat statue thing, the warden, the pirate, the beast man
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	When I played Bloodborne I was not on every boss' dick so I am trying to change my playstyle
Slex 03.02.22	Every boss in this game is on fucking crack levels of aggressive besides like Renna lol
trilo 03.02.22	17 is a teeny bit underleveled for Margit. def try to get +2 or 3 on your wep and maybe lvl 20. you can also get an item that stuns him twice (first phase only) from Patches.
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	Oh fuck I do have like 15 smithing stones to use, thanks for the reminder lmao
Colton 03.02.22	consistently getting the dickbag knight down to below half health when I fight him. turns out I was fat rolling all yesterday and didn’t even know what that is until an hour ago. now i’m moving on him
SaveBandit 03.02.22	You wanna talk about aggressive, have you fought Elemer of the Briar yet? That dude just spams his attacks constantly lol. Not a crazy hard fight, but holy shit he needs to take a chill pill.
Avagantamos 03.02.22	oh shit mid rolling is gonna revolutionize this game for you colton
zakalwe 03.02.22	4hrs in Level 16. Love it, Dark Souls II and Sekiro all is forgiven.
DocSportello 03.02.22	I beat Dragonkin Nokstrella last night using cooperators and still feel kinda bad about it. I generally try to overcome bosses on my own, but it was just such a pain in the ass having to go all the way underground and not being able to transport away, and the boss gave me serious deep chalice dungeon vibes, so idk maybe I shouldn’t feel that bad about it
DocSportello 03.02.22	Sekiro needs no forgiveness, you merely hesitated one too many times ;)
Colton 03.02.22	i’m guessing my play time is inaccurate as it doesn’t account for the time spent in load screens after dying
AmericanFlagAsh 03.02.22	Lol I will cheese a boss that's taking forever to beat I don't care
DocSportello 03.02.22	Yeah Colton Crucible Knight needs to go. I’m level 45 and my spidey senses say I’m beginning to inch nearer to the classic FromSoft mid game spike…I’m embarrassed I haven’t beaten CK yet. I did one of other evergaols and easypeasy I took 1-2 tries. CK knows how to fuck me tho
Colton 03.02.22	i’m actually having so much fun fighting him now. I got the timing on all his moves
DocSportello 03.02.22	One thing that’s made this game really unique for me at least is that I’ve had at LEAST 10 instances already where I’ve lost 10k+ souls, early game, and I consider myself a veteran at these games. My sense is that they genuinely rigged the world to keep first-time players from leveling up too fast—and in that sense the game that this most reminds me of is Demon’s Souls. Hot take maybe, but I’d call Elden Ring more sequel to that than to Dark Souls
JohnnyoftheWell 03.02.22	In its world layout and RPG vibes, I think it actually reminds me of DS2 the most, but I can vibe that too Took a pass on the evergaol Crucible Knight early on, but the miniboss version you find at the bottom of the enormous lift-tower in Stormveil can get tae fuck. Cheesed the hell out of him, was not down with dying down there
zakalwe 03.02.22	Yeah there is a feeling of Dark Souls II but it absolutely pisses on it. Love how it subtlety harkens back to and ties in all the souls games.
Gyromania 03.02.22	"I beat Dragonkin Nokstrella last night using cooperators and still feel kinda bad about it." i did it solo and it was a rush. i always try my hardest to solo every boss before resorting to summoning
Mort. 03.02.22	how the fuck have i missed this crucible knight fella
Mort. 03.02.22	i opened a chest and am currently in the mines? horrible bug fuckers everywhere
DocSportello 03.02.22	It’s a holy marriage of everything they’ve done since King’s Field, but it goes a step further and somehow elevates the tired open world formula. It’s brilliant, it’s insane, and almost everyone is going to have a vastly different experience. And Johnny I see where you’re coming from. Part of me wanted to call it Dark Souls II: 2 — the sheer weightiness of combat is something we haven’t had since then. It’s a game-killer. Idk what I’ll do whenever I’ve exhausted this. Maybe that stray cat game if it isn’t in secret dev hell? Probably I’ll take a loooong break
DocSportello 03.02.22	What level were you, Gyro? What was your build? Because I’m pretty sure I was underleveled and underprepared for it
zakalwe 03.02.22	This is the real Dark Souls II
DocSportello 03.02.22	I lost 20k souls in those crystal mines, good luck skeleton
Mort. 03.02.22	i just lost 11k : )
Colton 03.02.22	just beat the crucible knight :)
Gyromania 03.02.22	at the time i think i was like level 45-50. i'm 80 atm
DocSportello 03.02.22	Yeah I wasn’t ready for that boss lmao OKAY PRACTICAL QUESTION: is there any good reason to level up shields? Because it doesn’t seem to affect guard break, or am I wrong? Why should I spend any of my precious basic smithing stones on my lil shield?
Gyromania 03.02.22	i haven't tbh, leveling up their shields seems pointless unless you're doing some troll tower shield build or something
Slex 03.02.22	Hell yeah Colton nice
DocSportello 03.02.22	I gotta go run some errands but I will not sleep until I too have vanquished that damn Knight, and I’ll tell you all
DocSportello 03.02.22	Oh one final question for y’all in the know before I go: what’s the general endgame level for ng? I have a baaad habit of using souls to buy shit rather than level up, and I’m worried I’m shouting myself in the foot now. Also, pvp meta?
Mort. 03.03.22	ok i just found this crucible knight guy
DocSportello 03.03.22	Time to practice that parry I still haven’t quite nailed the parry timing. Its timing is more like DS1 but a lot of the DS3/BB tier aggression tends to make me panic at the wrong time
Colton 03.03.22	I beat crucible knight without parrying so if you use parrying to beat him you are inferior to me
Anthracks 03.03.22	I’m level 83 and I don’t feel like I’m close to the end. Also, anyone go up the huge waterfall…?? I’m definitely in a place I should not be in
trilo 03.03.22	i keep thinking i’m close to the end and then it keeps going. game is frickin yuge man. some of these side areas are like 2-3x the size of a typical souls level
Colton 03.03.22	and they're probably gonna go hard with the DLC too
Gyromania 03.03.22	What huge waterfall? You found a secret area?
beefshoes 03.03.22	Game absolutely fucks.
Underflow 03.03.22	Game really doesn't respect your time. Ask to summon someone for help on a boss fight and the boss's health pool increases? I don't have time for this, I have a job and pets to take care of. Inb4 you're bad at games, I beat dark souls 3 and bloodborne, but I have responsibilities now.
Colton 03.03.22	lol
Gyromania 03.03.22	So... What you're saying is you're bad at games
Underflow 03.03.22	Ftr I'm not advocating for difficulty options in souls games, the challenge is the appeal for souls fans and I wouldn't want to take that from them. But as I get older and have more responsibilities the less these games are for me. I want to play games to have fun, not to be frustrated.
Underflow 03.03.22	I'm genuinely glad people are enjoying this, it's just not for me.
Colton 03.03.22	the bosses are fun though
zakalwe 03.03.22	I hear ya flow. I got dragged back in because of my love for Dark Souls 1 and Bloodbourne. Dark Souls 1 is still the greatest game experience in my 35yrs of computer gaming. As life becomes less of a game it’s harder to put the hours into computing and when it’s a patience testing, infuriating experience that is ruined because of childish arseholes thinking they know better because they’ve ‘got good’ at some 97th instalment of some franchised nonsense there’s nothing left to do than give it the two fingers. Sekiro for me was the end of the road…..until Elden Ring
zaruyache 03.03.22	got all the way to the bottom of the map and also discovered the Siofra Well, which seems ridiculously majestic and thus I am putting off exploring for now.
Tw1ster 03.03.22	I have a full time job and a dog and a cat who are thriving even though I’m playing And enjoying Elden Ring.
Anthracks 03.03.22	Astel is one of their best ever boss fights….. wow
trilo 03.03.22	i just did Astel a few min ago. sick fight and cool boss design
Gyromania 03.03.22	You guys did the ranni quest too eh? I'm in the process of doing it now. I'm at the step where I just arrived at the eternal city. Looking forward to Astel but also looking forward to the demigod who's down here
Gyromania 03.03.22	I think some of you are far enough into the game now to ask: what are your favourite bosses so far? I think most of the remaining bosses I have are big boy fights in the northeast and northwest, but so far I think Godskin Apostle and Radahn have stood out as truly exceptional
Gyromania 03.03.22	I'm so upset. I got some stupid glitch that insta-killed the regal ancient spirit, so I never even got a chance to fight him. threw down my sign after that happened and fought him in someone else's world and the fight seemed rly cool, sucks that i got robbed of the experience
Anthracks 03.03.22	I only noticed two new moves from the first ancestor spirit fight (the stationary spray and healing)
Anthracks 03.03.22	The huge waterfall was hidden in nokrom
Gyromania 03.03.22	he also does a rolling attack and a couple other things. i found the waterfall, you have to do ranni's questline to get to astel though. you did that? like organically, or using a guide?
trilo 03.03.22	i think i may have gotten to that waterfall. does it lead to a gargoyle boss? also what is with fromsoft and fighting multiple gargoyles lmao my favs so far are Astel and Godrick. i like Crucible Knight too even though i tend to find Big Armored Knightdude fights to be kinda same-y and boring. he was a good challenge early on
Anthracks 03.03.22	it's after the gargoyle boss... check the back of the arena
JohnnyoftheWell 03.03.22	Godskin Apostle was a cool fight, absolutely loving the twinblade you get as a boss drop also loving that they put the bloodborne pizza cutter in this game
trilo 03.03.22	i don’t even think i did Godskin Apostle yet i’m wearing the Godskin set from the Liurnia tower miniboss. where do i fight him?
JohnnyoftheWell 03.03.22	up in plateau windmill land
BaselineOOO 03.03.22	Preceptor Mirian is the worst bullshit I've ever ever had to deal with in a Souls game. You either chase after the bitch for 20 minutes or just cheese her to death with ranged for 20 minutes.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.03.22	a gal after your own heart
Gyromania 03.03.22	The first Godskin boss I fought was at the bottom of Caelid tower. The one at the top of Caria tower was also very cool, particularly that second phase. Also these towers are fucking awesome. They're basically like levels. The one in Caelid features some great platforming. Hoping there's still one or two more of these Johnny: you're in Atlas Plateau eh? How is it? I'm hoping there's a good amount of content there. I know there are two demi gods/legacy dungeons to the east and west of it but I'm hoping there are some cool caves to explore and other things to do.
Gyromania 03.03.22	Johnny did you kill Radahn and do the underground stuff afterwards? If not I recommend doing that asap. Idk if anyone else besides anthracks has done it yet, but the Eternal City and Lake of Rot are wicked cool
DocSportello 03.03.22	Beat the Fallingstar Beast in the crystal mines solo this morning, at level 45. Feels good. Probably the most unfair fight I’ve encountered so far though. It demands perfection
Anthracks 03.03.22	Preceptor Miriam is the only enemy that I have skipped thus far… RUN!
Anthracks 03.03.22	So sad I have to leave for NYC for two days. Everyone is gonna pass me up /cry
SaveBandit 03.03.22	Yeah Fallingstar Beast was a shit head. I actually left him for a while and came back at a higher level lol. Currently on Radahn. Should have him knocked out after work. I spent a ton of time just exploring and goofing off in caves and dungeons, so I think my story progression path got kinda fucked because I couldn't remember where I was ACTUALLY supposed to go lol. Just been bouncing around fighting bosses as I find them.
Anthracks 03.03.22	Also I can’t fathom how the single gargoyle at bestial sanctum is twice as hard as the twin gargoyle fight wtf
Gyromania 03.03.22	yeah i still haven't beat him. i've come close, but decided to just save it until after. currently going through the lake of rot. after i do this and finish ranni's questline i'll finally be done with liurnia
Anthracks 03.03.22	I just beat him. Really important to not get greedy and use the terrain to your advantage (stay at top of stairs). He’s way more predictable in halberd mode so mostly dodge during sword. He dropped 88k souls so totally worth doing. I think that’s the most from any boss so far
Gyromania 03.03.22	you figure out what the guy inside that sanctum gives you? i've given him 4 of those death things so far but nothing's happened. also, you cleared out all of lake of rot?
Anthracks 03.03.22	I skipped most of the lake cause I have no idea how to counter scarlet rot. Is there any gear that makes it easier? Crazy that Kindred doesn’t give an achievement when Mimic Tear did. Also I lied, there is something after lake of rot that gives 120k souls when felled.
protokute 03.03.22	just started last night, and it was hard putting it down even after midnight. Initially thought about going with Astrologer, but I'm thinking of starting again as maybe Vagabond for a heavier build..
Anthracks 03.03.22	Just hit level 100 boys and girls!
Gyromania 03.03.22	i haven't found anything yet to help with resistence on that, just that item that reduces buildup. i just went around the entire lake getting everything drinking flasks and dying deliberately to go through from a different side. maybe a bit tedious, but i managed to grab everything leading up to that first lost grace inside
Gyromania 03.03.22	a third underground area. unfuckingreal. just went in the coffin
DocSportello 03.03.22	This game is so large. Skyrim large, even? I still have at least half of the map fragments left to find, and I’ve barely touched the underground or pvp. I’m so curious to read first-time souls players’ reactions to it once they’ve finished it or whatever in a month or so
Gyromania 03.03.22	yeah! it is probably bigger than skyrim, and actually good to boot
Anthracks 03.03.22	Dude the underground feels as big as the main game. Secret area within secret area within secret area. Never experienced anything like it
Slex 03.03.22	This games world makes Skyrim's look like Fischer-Price ngl
Gyromania 03.03.22	lol yeah always thought skyrim was mad overrated, even at launch. anthracks: i know man, it's unreal. i wonder how big this underground area will be. seems like it has potential to also be quite massive.
Gyromania 03.03.22	getting ready to fight astel. so pumped!
DocSportello 03.03.22	Skyrim was fun but it was the Tom Hanks of hit RPGs. This is the Brad Pitt
Gyromania 03.03.22	wow, the ulcerated tree mini boss in the grand cloister was a level of garbage i wasn't prepared for
DocSportello 03.03.22	Ulcerated tree was so fun to learn tho. And I never felt frustrated by it
Gyromania 03.03.22	yeah i enjoyed the fight in the other like 3 areas i fought it but it kind of sucks here
Anthracks 03.03.22	Just beat Fortissax… this has never happened to me but we double KO’d each other
Gyromania 03.03.22	don't even know who fortissax is. astel is very cool, died twice but nearly beat him the second time, so hopefully third time's the charm
Gyromania 03.03.22	glintstone dragon adula is a massive bitch tbh
Anthracks 03.03.22	0.16% of players have the achievement for beating Fortissax so I don’t think many people have come across him yet lol
Anthracks 03.03.22	Yes but the 120k runes is so worth it
Colton 03.03.22	this game is ruining my life
DocSportello 03.03.22	I’ve been thinking about Fallingstar Beast all day tbh. I think he may have been the most grueling fight (for me) since Ludwig. Not as objectively difficult and tense as, like, Gael or Sword Saint, but just brutally dispiriting. His second phase AOE is ridiculously hard to avoid
Gyromania 03.03.22	i was probably OP when i fought fallingstar beast because i did it on my 2nd try. astel gave me more difficulty with 3 total deaths. nothing has come close to radahn tho. i was stuck on him for 2 hours. i'm wondering if any other boss in the game will take as much time. i thought astel would take me fucking ages but i beat him on my fourth try (it was close tho)
Gyromania 03.03.22	also wtf is alecto? this guy is INSANE. i've died like 6 times to him, it must be a boss they intend for you to come back and face way later. i haven't given up on one of these evergaols yet, but this is making me consider it. so weird that he's right next to a dragon boss and astel, yet seems way harder
Anthracks 03.03.22	I must have overlooked that Gaol. Is it near the chapel where adula was?
DocSportello 03.03.22	Crazy how everybody has different experiences with bosses. I remember people griping about the “wall” that was the Ape in Sekiro, but I beat him on my second try. But then most people rate Pontiff as one of the easier “major” bosses in DS3 but I still struggle with him, so so much. I don’t know why. Gael was a breeze for me compared to him—and that’s still the case
Anthracks 03.03.22	Also nice job beating Astel so quickly. It took me about five tries just to download his moveset and another three to consistently dodge his OHKO
DocSportello 03.03.22	Yeah Fallingstar Beast and I had a bad time. I was too stubborn to go level up, and all I really had at my disposal was a shield that could barely take a hit, low-ass vitality, and the lightning slash weapon art that saved my life. It was an exercise in surgical whittling. Definitely should have been more equipped. But that’s how I play. I can’t abandon a boss midstream
Colton 03.03.22	this game makes me stay up so late that I end up playing half asleep and drunk driving my horse off clifftops
DocSportello 03.03.22	I’m glad I have a prescription for ADHD meds, I’ll say that. I don’t abuse them often, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I find myself losing a day of sleep for this. It’s easy to step away from, hard not to return to promptly
JohnnyoftheWell 03.03.22	Fallingstar Beast is like one of the upper-difficulty bosses on Monster Hunter lol, took a skip on that and went straight to volcano manor @gyro hmm, haven't knuckled down on Atlas Plateau yet, so can't report on content, but it has some gorgeous spots. skipped over the forest area, but that looked like a treat. the whole volcano outskirts/ascent is really nicely done, peak fromsoft atmos going on there finally got to Radahn last night - not sure whether to leave him a while or spend tonight gitting gud, hmm. i do wanna see what happens in the underground after, so maybe the latter; you guys did use the summons, right? what weapons/sets are you guys running atm?
Anthracks 03.03.22	Just fought Alecto … he’s so much faster than my big lug swings :(
Avagantamos 03.03.22	have you guys done sage's cave yet? there are two bosses in there and both are pretty crazy. there's a hyper aggressive necromancer with a flail that took me a while to beat, and I still haven't beat the black knife assassin there. he's fucking invisible! you can watch for his footsteps, but his grab attack is still super hard to avoid
Avagantamos 03.03.22	and about the content in altus plateau: it's on par with all the other areas I've explored so far (limgrave, liurnia, and caelid)
Avagantamos 03.03.22	my character is basically the enchanted knight from the CNT. the carian knight armor is so damn gorgeous I haven't taken it off since I found it. I have a carian glintstone staff +17, and my main melee weapon has been the rosus' axe which I have at +6, it's got a pretty sweet unique ash of war which brings down skeleton spirits for big damage. also have a great epeé as a secondary weapon which is great for making attacks while still keeping your shield up
Mort. 03.03.22	has anyone encountered bosses that start with half health? just fought a black knife assassin in the deathtouched catacombs, it started with half health for some reason??
Avagantamos 03.03.22	oh yeah I remember coming across that once too, can't remember where though. I did clear deathtouched so maybe it was there
Colton 03.04.22	that means youre bad and the game is taking pity on you
Avagantamos 03.04.22	but I beat crucible knight without parrying!
Gyromania 03.04.22	johnny: is volcano manor large? i'm rly wanting to get to a new legacy dungeon, seeing as caelid didn't have one (missed opportunity imo). and yeah definitely do the ungerground stuff. but like, first read up on ranni's questline. you should do every step in order, it'll help you fight optional bosses and gain access to the hardest to get ending. highly recommend it for the astel boss fight alone. also the monster hunter comparison is actually super apt lmao. like legit it totally looks like a monster hunter world boss, but something you'd fight in the late game.
Gyromania 03.04.22	glad to hear atlus plateau is as quality as the other areas. caelid is the weak link for me atm, although the radahn fight and that whole tower level were peak fromsoft
Gyromania 03.04.22	"oh yeah I remember coming across that once too, can't remember where though. I did clear deathtouched so maybe it was there" i remember that fight, i was like "oh shit, he must be really strong". nope, blasted him in like 6 hits lol
Gyromania 03.04.22	"but I beat crucible knight without parrying!" ngl i haven't parried a single time in this game
Anthracks 03.04.22	Can anyone confirm if any other quest lines result in major bosses and story items like Fia and Renna’s?
Gyromania 03.04.22	fia results in a huge quest and items too? fuck... last time i saw her she basically admitted to killing that dude at the roundtable hold and then vanished. did i already fuck hers up?
Anthracks 03.04.22	You should still be able to. I don’t think any of the quests are missable
Veldin 03.04.22	Gotta go back and do Manner but I’ve got Caelid and Altus Plateau and wasn’t sure I sure do first? I’ve done some of Caelid already. Which is a higher level area?
Veldin 03.04.22	Fia killing him is part of their quest line and you’ll meet her at a later dungeon from the sound of it
Gyromania 03.04.22	ahhhhh i c. atlus plateau is dope
MiloRuggles 03.04.22	big important update on my ds3 playthrough pontiff sulyvhan (spelling pending) is just ridiculously hard as a shieldless character. spent about an hour on him today (w/o embers) and could barely scratch the cunt. have just run down to the abandoned city or whatever it's called to get some lvls and sort my character out all in all, by the time i finally finish this i should be able to afford to get 8gb more RAM to run this fuckin game
beefshoes 03.04.22	Altus Plateau is the most beautiful yet unsettling area in the game so far. Wormface is kinda terrifying.
BaselineOOO 03.04.22	Parrying is for nerds. I literally never parried, it ruins the realism of the game + I'm too based.
Gyromania 03.04.22	lol dude every level in this game shits on anor londo
BaselineOOO 03.04.22	I will have to disagree with that Gyro. Interconnectivity in this game is a mess, or rather the lack of it. There are "shortcuts" that lead to nowhere, verticality that leads to one-way only roof parkouring, locked doors that merely hide one or two unimportant items. It just seems that all the castles are dense for the sake of being dense while there aren't enough unique ways in which you can explore them. They seem awfully linear to me.
Scheumke 03.04.22	Feels like you guys are all ready on the back half of the game, and here I am still cruising through the beginning parts doing everything there is to do before moving to Stormveil. Only have had about a good hour worth of playing each day, but that does keep it very fresh for me. 15 hours in and lvl 36 so that's going well I think. Do the area's where you guys are at have as much to do as Limgrave/Weeping Peninsula?
BaselineOOO 03.04.22	Take your time Scheumke. I did it this way- after you're done with exploration consult a map and make sure you've completed everything to do in that area. i.imgur.com/RIEYc4x.jpeg
Gyromania 03.04.22	nostalgia glasses are strong for ds1. anor londo is such a boring use of space tbh. i like the interior stuff well enough but it's never that enjoyable to play through. the huge tower knights are a joke, tons of running down massive halls filled with nothing to get to the next area. the verticality in this game is so much better than anything they've done lol. liurnia lakes is a great example of this. i mean stormveil castle alone featured tons of rooftop platforming so "aren't enough unique ways in which you can explore them" seems way off to me.
HelloJoe 03.04.22	Dead end - the game.
twlight 03.04.22	so kool, i am playing SEKIRO!!!
BigPleb 03.04.22	Not picked it up yet, will do on payday. When it comes to the series overall I've gotta say DS3 has always been my favourite.
twlight 03.04.22	big boi, you gotta try SEKIRO
BaselineOOO 03.04.22	DS1 sucks imo, Anor Londo included. DS1 was scenic and gimmicky but had vastly inferior level design to DS3 and even DS2 at its best (Shulva - Sanctum City, Frozen Eleum Loyce, Drangleic etc.). Dunno, all Elden Ring did was expand the levels by introducing a lot of new rooms filled with nothing and the ability to jump on random roofs that lead to a window or stairs! I literally explored all the edges of these roofs and they do not allow the player to go in more than two directions, they're basically just a bridge with more platforms to give the illusion of complexity. imo Elden Ring almost NEVER gives you the option to choose between two pathways. It's disappointing af in that regard. I feel safe anywhere, I do not feel like I'm taking risks when I'm not in combat. I'll make up my mind once I finish the game though cause honestly it just gets better and better.
Gyromania 03.04.22	jfc what were you expecting when you go down divergent paths - a blowjob? two vastly branching routes that lead to totally different missable areas? platforming down rooftops to find a rly cool spell or armor set is pretty great imo, and the amount of different paths you can take is dizzying (esp compared to ds3 wtf lol). i found myself going down tons of different paths in stormveil. there's so many rooftops to drop onto that leads to different loot or a different route, like the front gate helping you clear that area out. these divergent paths also activate elevators and open doors to connect the area better (way better than anor londo or most levels in ds3 imo. like i love irrithyl, but it's basically a straight line that leads to one different (shitty) area and a boss shortcut))
BigPleb 03.04.22	I started with DS3, so there's a bit of bias there no doubt. Got my ass handed to me lol, probably the hardest game in the series to start with.
Slex 03.04.22	DS3 has such an insane difficulty spike lmao at a certain point I was just like what in the fuck is happening
BigPleb 03.04.22	Was stuck on that tutorial boss for so long, always kept me coming back though somehow.
Gyromania 03.04.22	volcano manor is so sick
Anthracks 03.04.22	I also agree DS3 and 2 are better than 1, but still love 1. There is no matching that feeling of dread during the first half, but the game is obviously unfinished and doesn’t have the attention to detail that every other release has. DS3 had the best boss fights hands down. My rankings thus far: Dark Souls 3 > Demon’s Souls > Sekiro = Elden Ring > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls > Bloodborne
Anthracks 03.04.22	As you can probably see I prefer the scripted, linear design to open world. In fact, Elden ring is one of the first open world games I’ve ever played that doesn’t feel like shit is just randomly thrown everywhere (though in some places it definitely does still feel this way). I’ll never not be of the opinion that linear and stage based game design is more demanding from a game development perspective and the perspective of creativity. Open world as a mechanic just does nothing for me.
Gyromania 03.04.22	For me it's: Elden Ring >>>>>> Sekiro > Bloodborne >>>>> DS1 = DS3 >>>> Demon's Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS2
Gyromania 03.04.22	Sekiro and Bloodborne are still hard 10s for me but Elden Ring is on another level. Sekiro has such a unique and amazing combat system tho, it almost feels weird to compare it to Souls games even though that DNA is still there in some major ways.
zakalwe 03.04.22	Dark Souls I - 10 Dark Souls II - 4 Dark Souls III - 9 Bloodbourne - 10 Sekiro - 6 Elden Ring (so far an 8.5)
SpiritCrusher2 03.04.22	my PS5 has just arrived today, can't wait to get off work to play this
beefshoes 03.04.22	How in the shit are you guys beating Radahn? I'm nearly level 60 and even with the summons, he just annihilates me in that second phase.
SaveBandit 03.04.22	He took a little bit of trial and error but for me I found that I did the best against Radahn when I spent the first phase basically under his ass and then the second phase I gave him more space to lure the jump attack, then dodge, hit once or twice, retreat and then repeat until he was dead. When he goes up to the sky for his stupid meteor attack just run as far away as you can on horseback and it'll miss.
beefshoes 03.04.22	I didn't realize that you could use Torrent. That changes things quite a bit haha
SaveBandit 03.04.22	Oh and rankings... shit. Idk maybe something like this for me. Haven't played Demon's Souls. I was going to get a PS5 a while back and the DS Remake but then found out that my wife is pregnant and dropping $600 on video games didn't seem like a very responsible thing to do lmao. Elden Ring > DS3 > Bloodborne > Sekiro > DS1 > DS2
WatchItExplode 03.04.22	Well, I think I should have done the weeping peninsula about 20 levels ago. That entire area was a 2-hour cake walk
2CHAINAL 03.04.22	Castle Morne was such a disappointment to me, but that was probably because I did it right after Stormveil and was expecting the same size
Colton 03.04.22	man I love this game but I really wish it ran better on ps4... shit is sub 30fps a lot of the time. it makes me not even wanna ride the horse cause it runs worse when I do
Colton 03.04.22	sometimes when there's a lot of enemies in the background they move at what I estimate to literally be 10fps, if that. it's a slideshow
twlight 03.04.22	side note: i finally beat Genichiro in Sekiro, holy shit Sekiro is fantastic, gotta beat it before buying elden ting
zakalwe 03.04.22	Elden Ring turns it to Ash. On another Elden Ring note I’m 10hrs in and can’t find a bastard smith.
twlight 03.04.22	"man I love this game but I really wish it ran better on ps4... shit is sub 30fps a lot of the time. it makes me not even wanna ride the horse cause it runs worse when I do" time to upgrade bruv, get that series S for $300
beefshoes 03.04.22	I'm playing it on a PS4 pro. It honestly runs better than Bloodborne lol
twlight 03.04.22	why is Fromsoftware so good at making games but so shit at optimizing them? sekiro frame rate is all over the place on series S
zakalwe 03.04.22	fps is such a load of bollocks. Anything between 30-60 is all that is needed. This insistence that shooters and what have you have to be 100+ is such 21st century nerd shit.
SaveBandit 03.04.22	Zak you find the first smith right after you fight the Tree Sentinel in the beginning area. Where you find the site of grace and the merchant, there's a little anvil where you can upgrade your weapons to +3. After that there is another place you go to upgrade weapons further... but I don't want to spoil anything for anyone so...
2CHAINAL 03.04.22	meh, I would say anything above 60 fps is good but 30 -> 60 is definitely noticeable. plus some games have actions tied to fps so having a higher fps is actually an advantage
zakalwe 03.04.22	Ta mate. Yeah I’ve found that fella but I need to add some meat to me +3 magic falcion thingy with the half a pit mine of shards I’m dragging around with me.
twlight 03.04.22	"fps is such a load of bollocks" 60 fps is so much better. play a game at 60 fps for awhile and then try it at 30 and you'll immediately notice it. If 30 fps is all you're used to then yeah, no big deal
SaveBandit 03.04.22	Ah okay. Have you spoken to Melina yet? That's how you get access to the blacksmith who can upgrade further.
Colton 03.04.22	the issue isn’t the fps it’s whether the fps is consistent. if it’s all over the place it makes the game much less enjoyable, idk how anyone could even argue that
Colton 03.04.22	it’s like listening to a record that skips
zakalwe 03.04.22	Melina being the one-eyed mistress bird or the West Country sort who is sat outside Morne Fort?
twlight 03.04.22	good way to put it Colton, if it's 30 fps locked, at least it's consistent.
SaveBandit 03.04.22	Nah you'll find Melina at the site of grace when you heading up towards Stormveil castle.
zakalwe 03.04.22	Nice one Bandit.
SaveBandit 03.04.22	No problem brotha. Would have been a hell of a tough game for you if you missed that lmao.
MiloRuggles 03.04.22	agreed that people shitting the bed that the game doesn't run at a constant 60fps at 1440p are a peculiarly 2022 brand of precious
Colton 03.04.22	it’s weird to me how people dickride fromsoftware so hard that they’re offended by people saying that a game should have a consistent frame rate and not lag all the time…
Colton 03.04.22	it doesn’t ruin the game but a consistent frame rate is the bare minimum from any game. to take issue with people complaining about that is like taking issue with people saying an album shouldn’t have clipping
twlight 03.04.22	"agreed that people shitting the bed that the game doesn't run at a constant 60fps at 1440p are a peculiarly 2022 brand of precious" i mean, it's 2022 and xbox and playstation both advertised their consoles as being able to run AT A MINIMUM that. So for a big release like this to not be able to hit those targets is unacceptable imo
protokute 03.04.22	guys, im addicted
Slex 03.04.22	Just finally leveled my int enough to effectively use this super pimped out +7 crystal sword, slicing thru fuckers like they're butter lol
Colton 03.04.22	i’m just using lordsworn’s straight sword or whatever it’s called. i don’t think it’s that good but i’ve already upgraded it to +5 so i feel like I have to commit to it now
MiloRuggles 03.04.22	>to take issue with people complaining about that is like taking issue with people saying an album shouldn’t have clipping yeah, fair, but the rhetoric surrounding it is weirdly charged. i get that it's annoying, but words like "unacceptable" and "unplayable" and media stinkpieces just seem a bit out of whack with the issue to me maybe it's just that i'm used to having a patched together PC and i'm happy to run things at 40fps, idk
Gyromania 03.04.22	yeah i have to agree with milo, there's a very cringe vocal minority shitting on this game right now. any time a product is this hyped, a lot of casual players will gravitate towards it and not get the appeal, the same way people flipped out when Parasite won best picture of the year and western audiences couldn't wrap their head around it.
Gyromania 03.04.22	i will say though, @colton - yes, the framerate has been abysmal at times. definitely a problem with the hardware though, not the game. a lot of games can't hit 60 fps on ps4, and many dip far below. i played Control last year and had to stop because it had the worst framerate i've ever seen on the ps4 and i didn't want to spoil the experience for myself. with Elden Ring i noticed that if you leave the client running too long, the fps will get worse. i observed this during an 8 hour stretch where i ended up in caria mnaor. if i looked north at all, my fps dropped to literally like 5 per second. i thought it was another case of blighttown, but closing and restarting the app fixed the problem
Gyromania 03.04.22	"Elden Ring turns it to Ash." no. Sekiro is still a masterpiece and the combat is still the best in any game i've played. Elden Ring is my new favourite From game but there are other things to consider
protokute 03.04.22	just lost 7000 runes because i fell for the sellia crystal cave trap after killing the dragon
Colton 03.05.22	milo nobody is talking about the number of frames per second being unacceptable, we’re talking about the frame rate being inconsistent and it having a big effect on gameplay. the game is noticeably laggy on ps4, stutters a lot, is just clunky in general a lot of the time. if you’re not playing on ps4 or xbox one you probably don’t know what people mean
Gyromania 03.05.22	Like I said the fps is bad but it's not game ruining for me, and sometimes restarting makes it pretty smooth. The thing that's been bugging me a bit is input lag, due to the fps. Doesn't happen enough to rly piss me off, but I've lost boss fights due to it
trilo 03.05.22	yo Godskin Duo is fuckin' rough as melee. boss is absolutely wrecking my shit
Gyromania 03.05.22	I think I must be close to that now. I'm at the capitol
trilo 03.05.22	you're pretty far still
beefshoes 03.05.22	"the game is noticeably laggy on ps4, stutters a lot, is just clunky in general a lot of the time." It runs perfectly fine for me, and I've not had issues with input lag whatsoever.
Gyromania 03.05.22	Leyndell is incredible. It's basically what I wanted from The Ringed City
JohnnyoftheWell 03.05.22	yeah, was just thinking that - whole level is basically the Ringed City on crack and i am STUCK
Anthracks 03.05.22	I have had zero frame rate issues. Not a single spike in over 60 hours.
Veldin 03.05.22	4-5 second load times on PS5 are very nice when remembering the minute long Bloodborne loads at launch. I’m playing on performance mode and it seems to run pretty good. I’ve also noticed less pop in since that recent update. Trying to beat Radahn today
Slex 03.05.22	It's been like buttery smooth for me on Series S with Game Mode enabled on my TV. No idea why but that made a big difference for me lol/have heard it helps performance in general
beefshoes 03.05.22	Radahn on that fucking tiny horse lmfao
JohnnyoftheWell 03.05.22	Morgott can fuckin do one. still haven't come across Preceptor Mirian, which area should i be combing?
trilo 03.05.22	Carian Study Hall in east Liurnia. it’s attatched to the divine tower
JohnnyoftheWell 03.05.22	ohhhhhhhhhhh okay, i did that a while back after hours of seething and frustration, just forgot the name. fuck that not-even-boss forever
twlight 03.05.22	If you guys are having performance isuees and stuttering on the PS4, try rebuilding the database. Google it, it helps.
Veldin 03.05.22	https://youtu.be/riV4PD4QfKM Veldin vs Radahn How I easily beat him with a melee build - AGGRESSION
Colton 03.05.22	i’ll try that. my current experience reminds me of BOTW when I played on Wii U and it ran like shit but I loved it anyway. this game borrows a lot from BOTW actually, first time I saw that stone thing with the bell in the weeping peninsula I had to remind myself what game I’m playing
protokute 03.05.22	am i the only one who feels really frustrated with the mounted combat sometimes?
Colton 03.05.22	yes because it's laggy. otherwise it's great because the horse movement is so fluid. you can bounce in and out pretty easily
trilo 03.05.22	it's a bit wonky but it's also pretty OP so i can't be too mad at it
Slex 03.05.22	I have 93000 runes lmao someone tell me what to do/level up, I'm a samurai build using an op as fuck +5 crystal sword
trilo 03.05.22	pump vit + your main damage stat cuz the endgame bosses are nightmarishly brutal
Colton 03.05.22	do you get the crystal sword from that one crystal mine area north of caelid?
Colton 03.05.22	i'm there right now
Slex 03.05.22	Word love u thx off I go to kill fallingstar beast
Colton 03.05.22	also there's a boss in the study hall thing in liurnia? I fucked around there for a while but couldn't find anything
Slex 03.05.22	Yes Colton and fucking trust me, raise yr int to use it and level it as much as you can. This thing opened up the game for me lol
Colton 03.05.22	oh damn ok. I haven't put anything into int though so that would take me quite a while
trilo 03.05.22	there's 2 mini-bosses in Carian Study Hall IIRC. one actually inside and one on the way to the tower. both of them v annoying lmao
Slex 03.05.22	Even without the requirements if you level it up it's very powerful, so
Slex 03.05.22	Wow fallingstar beast is a fucking cunt
Colton 03.05.22	all i found in the study hall was a bunch of assholes that one shot me with magic, and a bunch of like, wooden beams toward the ceiling that lead to an item of some kind. there seems to be a lower level but idk how to get there. guess i’ll go back and find out
Slex 03.05.22	A fuCKIJG CUNT
BaselineOOO 03.05.22	It's a beautiful game, like a Tool album.
Tw1ster 03.05.22	You all are much much further than me, I’ll stay away from this discussion for a bit so I don’t spoil myself. Loving this game!
DocSportello 03.05.22	80 hours in and I've been taking my time. Level 56 on my main character, but I have a SL1 file, because I'm gonna try to do that
Colton 03.05.22	damn i’m only 35 hours in and feels like i’ve been playing a fuckload
Colton 03.05.22	bruh 80 hours is like 10 hours a day how do you have that much time lol
trilo 03.05.22	@colton you need an item to get to the other part of the tower
Demon of the Fall 03.05.22	yeah get a job, fuck me 10 hours a day, lol
Demon of the Fall 03.05.22	I’m looking forward to eventually starting this and (maybe) finishing it by the time I die
Anthracks 03.05.22	Just when you think you’re done fighting crucible knights the game throws two at you at once Lmaooo
Colton 03.05.22	i swear i can almost no-hit crucible knight at this point. got all his moves memorized
trilo 03.05.22	yeah pretty much all the multi boss fights are lame
DocSportello 03.05.22	@colt - I’m a grad student at that awkward phase in the program where all I have to do is prepare for some exams. I’ve read almost everything on that list, have a really good idea of what I’m writing for the diss, and besides I just got out of a nasty relationship. I feel no shame in playing as much as I have. This time
Avagantamos 03.05.22	I quit my job specifically so I could play elden ring 12 hours a day on release. job sucked anyway though, probably would have quit sooner if not for elden ring tbh. I like to save a bit to take some time to myself in between jobs
Slex 03.05.22	Do ya thang Doc and Ava, sounds like yall have earned it Man I loved Fallingstar Beast so much, absolute bastard but super fun and hilariously cool enemy design
Avagantamos 03.05.22	after the Radan fight, how far do you have to go to continue Blaidd's quest line? I went through (I think) all of Nokron and Nokstella and got to the lake of rot, but haven't found him again yet
Slex 03.05.22	I actually haven't done Radan yet lol, will be the next big thing I do for sure
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.05.22	Radahn: great concept for fight Awful fight
Colton 03.06.22	fair enough doc and ava. honestly this game has been making me live a more degen lifestyle lol. used to have a hard “2 bowls/edibles per night” rule but then I’ll get to a new area and I’m like damn I gotta rip a toke for this and then next thing I know it’s 5am
Avagantamos 03.06.22	the camera angle was the real boss in the radahn fight
Slex 03.06.22	Yeah I've never had marathon sessions with a game before like I'm having with this one lol, exactly what happens w me Colton
Gyromania 03.06.22	Morgott was a fucking stellar fight
Colton 03.06.22	they really put a boss called Margit and then another one called Morgott
WatchItExplode 03.06.22	You guys are degens for sure. I have dedicated every spare moment I have to the game and have 42 hours in. All love thoughAll love though
Slex 03.06.22	I have just about 40 hours, close to level 50
StarlessCore 03.06.22	The people crying about radahn are so pathetic
Anthracks 03.06.22	i've been sidequesting in altus for what feels like an eternity
Gyromania 03.06.22	radahn is easily the hardest boss i've faced so far but he's aweaome
Gyromania 03.06.22	wow... Fia's champions has to be the biggest waste of an awesome boss arena of all time
trilo 03.06.22	there's a boss after Fia's Champions that's a lot more fitting for the arena and now that i've beaten the game i kind of clamor for Radahn's bullshit after fighting the endgame bosses, especially Malenia. good lawd fuck that boss. at least i beat Radahn fairly quickly. this mf is unreal
Gyromania 03.06.22	SPOILER how is her area? it's a legacy dungeon, right? also very happy to hear she's nuts. and you mentioned some of the other ones are too? i'm getting pretty close to the end now, i think. i'm gonna get this third contract kill for volcano manor, then go back and do that dungeon, then just the mountain of giants, farum, and the haligtree to go. oh and that demigod in the underground
Colton 03.06.22	what is a legacy dungeon?
Slex 03.06.22	Legacy dungeon means main story area like Stotmveil, Volcano Manor, etc. Can't believe ppl are already beating this lmao no spoilers pls
Gyromania 03.06.22	like stormveil castle or raya lucaria - a huge ass dungeon. trilo: wow the lichdragon was insane. like a cracked out version of kalameet
Gyromania 03.06.22	myb lol, i should be putting spoiler tags on some of these comments
trilo 03.06.22	spoilerz ahead beware yeah legacy dungeon. there's technically two legacy dungeons of Haligtree. they're both cool - a ton of verticality. i didn't find it particularly tough except in a couple spots. i don't recall any new enemies so you should be fairly experienced with the challenges. and yes the last few story bosses + Malenia are very difficult. they are all some combination of large health pools, hidden phases, multi-boss, relentless combos with a ton of different delays, and high mobility. and you cannot overlevel them like most of the bosses. if you're a caster or have a lot of cheeky status effect stuff you prob fair a lot better than i, but as pure melee w/ UGS no summons/ashes they are unquestionably the hardest bosses in the series with Malenia being my top pick.
Colton 03.06.22	damn I’m pretty sure i’ve still only done one legacy dungeon
Gyromania 03.06.22	*Spoilers* lol i'm in the same boat as you, full strength build with a dragon halberd. i want to eventually increase arcane, faith, and intelligence, but for my first playthrough i prefer to engage the bosses in true 1-on-1 melee style combat to gauge how hard they are. so far nothing has come close to rahdan besides morgott. morgott was a damn good challenge, there were so few openings to punish him. was a bit disappointed by no cutscene transition into phase 2, but phase 2 still brought the heat and as of now it seems like a harder version of gael. i've heard melenia is nuts but those are the bosses i grow to love the most by From. did you do the farum bosses including that optional dragon? also i wanted to know, does the game just end after you beat the final bosses? it sounds like melenia and her realm are meant to be post-game, which is what i planned to do but i don't want to screw myself over
trilo 03.06.22	spoilers yeah i did the dragon. if there's anything besides Godskin Duo and Maliketh (both required) in Farum i'm not aware of em. and the game asks if you want to go to NG+ or not so you can stay behind and finish content. i'll be curious how you fair with some of them. i personally feel they go a little too far in punishing strength builds for my liking so i eventually gave in to ashes for help. Malenia i just could not do w/o ashes, esp after seeing god gamer souls vets wipe to her for hours and hours. i lost my patience for pain. my 2nd playthrough will prob be a dex build and i'll give it another 'purist' shot then. sounds like you will enjoy the abuse tho lol
Gyromania 03.06.22	fuck this death rite bird. stupid damage man, i have 45 vigor too wtf
Gyromania 03.06.22	it depends on what kind of hard they are. sword saint? good kind of hard. lawrence the first vicar? bad kind of hard. i lost to gael for like an hour+ but i never found myself fuming over it.
trilo 03.06.22	it'll help a ton you're using a faster wep than my UGS that's for sure. too much tracking and mobility with tiny windows for damage. this was not the game for a UGS lmao but gosh dangit i wanted to swing around an oversized sword
Gyromania 03.06.22	lol yeah man i love the heavy builds too, but certainly some bosses just don't allow for it. with my halberd i was basically trading damage with morgott for nearly every hit. might try to spec in something a little more viable for hit and run playstyle
Slex 03.06.22	Wow almost 1000 comments gg
protokute 03.06.22	thinking about trading my Bloodhound Fang +5 to a Zweihander, it's getting hard to get the somber upgrade materials and I think the Zwei scales better with my Strength build.
Avagantamos 03.06.22	the bleed effect on the bloodhound fang is really nice for bosses. just keep progressing and you will get enough somber stones to upgrade a few weapons pretty high. somber upgrades only go to +10, and normal go to +25, so it will take a few shards to get a zwei up to the level of that bloodhound fang. you could always powerstance though!
Anthracks 03.06.22	Yeah a lot of the harder bosses don’t seem to favor UGS in this one…. But I also went with that build.
protokute 03.06.22	Yea, I quite like it, but I thought I was starting to get a bit behind with it, I'll keep it definitely. Also, you guys have any recommendation for a shield? I think I'm using the same one since the beginning of the game.
zakalwe 03.06.22	The fuck is the glintstone key?
JohnnyoftheWell 03.06.22	damn Astel was a gorgeous boss
Anthracks 03.06.22	I use the jellyfish shield but dunno where I got it. Good stats greatshield with light weight. Also I thought I was doing capital city but I’ve been exploring a sewer for about two hours lol
Gyromania 03.06.22	i tried to use the jellyfish shield but it's just so distracting visually. i use the turtle shell! it's amazing + with katanas i can cosplay as leonardo! the sewer under leyndell gets my vote for most ass level in the game. visually cool looking but they basically just took all the most bs enemies in the game and shoved them into one area
Anthracks 03.06.22	The boss there was pretty tough
Gyromania 03.06.22	least favourite boss in the game so far i think. i don't even think he's that hard, he's slow af so you can always kite him around the arena, it's just a mind numbingly tedious fight and his damage output is lol. the sewers are aesthetically amazing, i love how everything connects too, honestly a damn well designed area, but the enemies are just so fucking lame. i hope the demigod version of mohg is 10x cooler
Gyromania 03.06.22	i'm actually salty af rn. i'm pretty sure i just got locked into the "lord of frenzied flame" ending because i chose to open a door. i met all the criteria for the age of stars ending, but apparently once you open this door, you're screwed. melina came and told me to get fucked. i really hope this doesn't gate me from bosses or areas
Anthracks 03.06.22	I’m currently deciding which ending I want. I think you can fight all bosses with the flame but it’s mostly a guess
Anthracks 03.06.22	I’d say mohg was the most challenging fight so far though. Especially considering what level I was I shouldn’t have struggled against him as I did. It was very hard to get a good opening with UGS
Gyromania 03.06.22	i think i was just tilted because he killed me 3 times when he was at like 1hp lol, and the area before was super frustrating. he's not as bad as i made him out to be but like, idk it didn't feel super enjoyable for a strength build. i'm assuming you haven't fought him at 100% yet?
trilo 03.06.22	yeah mohg demigod was pretty tough. the purifying crystal tear was a lifesaver otherwise you lose like 2 estus during the phase transition. he was a bit easier for me with UGS than the other endgame bosses just cuz hes a bit slower.
BaselineOOO 03.06.22	This game was insane, I loved it. Not quite my favorite ever, but certainly top 5. A second playthrough is guaranteed. This is how I'd rank From's games now: DS3 >= Elden Ring > DS2 > Demon's Souls (2009) > Sekiro > DS1 > Demon's Souls Remake
Gyromania 03.06.22	ds3 over elden ring? ds2 over sekiro? some bad takes there
Colton 03.06.22	got a project that’s gonna take me like 5-6 hours today. using the fact that I can play Elden Ring afterward as motivation
Anthracks 03.06.22	i just can't believe i took a vacation for (mainly) this game and still didn't beat it
BaselineOOO 03.06.22	"ds3 over elden ring? ds2 over sekiro? some bad takes there" Nah, just thinking for myself + preferences.
Slex 03.06.22	Someone needs to come help me beat this trash boss before I use my Xbox to murder someone holy fuck
WatchItExplode 03.06.22	Thousand comments strong
Anthracks 03.06.22	The double erdtree avatar fight is fucking me up ngl
Colton 03.06.22	i haven't even beat godrick yet
Colton 03.06.22	beat that guy underneath Castle Morne on my third try though. was definitely overleveled
zaruyache 03.06.22	did anyone else cheese godrick? he pretended to be sonic the hedgehog so much it wasn't hard to fill him with arrows while waiting for him to actually come over and fight lol.
Slex 03.06.22	Godrick's 2nd phase is fucking stupid lol
Colton 03.06.22	nah ranged attacks are for pussies
Anthracks 03.06.22	Did anyone fight Rykard? What the actual fuck is this fight
Anthracks 03.06.22	Oh it’s like the giant fight in DS3… I almost took him out regular LOL
trilo 03.06.22	Rykard was sick. it's so over the top absurd i love it.
Gyromania 03.06.22	Rykard was awesome. He was basically FromSoft finally getting a gimmick boss right and yeah the first few times I fought him I was just kicking his ass with my usual weapon lol but that became impossible to maintain
zakalwe 03.06.22	Do love this but a bit of the old Sekiro. Dash, roll, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, roll, slash, jump attack, roll, ashes thing, slash, roll, stab, stab, stab, roll, slash, roll, roll, slash, stab, stab, roll, jump attack, roll, stab, slash, roll, stab, stab, stab, roll, slash. WHACK!!!! Drinks an elixir like the cup is made out of Osmium before WHACK!!! You Died Is creeping in. Get to fuck
Colton 03.06.22	zak expecting us to believe his geriatric hands can actually operate a controller, let alone play this game
zakalwe 03.06.22	Haha. Fucking yoof insisting everything has to be played a million miles an hour.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.06.22	Godrick's second phase is way easier than his first ngl
zakalwe 03.06.22	Godrick the grafted bloke with the hands and dragon extremity?
JohnnyoftheWell 03.06.22	that's the boi
zakalwe 03.06.22	Good boss. Enjoyed it when he screamed.
Gyromania 03.07.22	Sounds like someone doesn't know how to play Sekiro lol. Yeah second phase of Godrick is so much easier because you can bait out the fire attacks for huge punishes. Still a very cool boss
Slex 03.07.22	2nd phase is literally 10x harder
Gyromania 03.07.22	Is it though? You can just roll through the long ranged fire breath for free damage, his fire storm just run right beside him and get free hits. Ground slam just wait off to the side and then get way more free damage
Anthracks 03.07.22	I killed Godrick my first try I honestly don’t remember anything other than the badass cutscene.
Gyromania 03.07.22	Yeah best cutscene in the game so far
Anthracks 03.07.22	I really liked the Rykard cutscene the most
Gyromania 03.07.22	The sword was rly cool but his voice was a bit lame I thought
JohnnyoftheWell 03.07.22	yh Godrick second phase is literally all the same punishable moves you learned to dodge in the first, plus a load of overlong fire attacks that you can destroy. happy days
zaruyache 03.07.22	i just thought it was funny when he rolled around like some sort of hyperactive pet
Colton 03.07.22	i just got to the town with all the burger king mascots. it’s spooky
Gyromania 03.07.22	Haha yeah that town is cool
Tw1ster 03.07.22	In stormveil atm and am convinced this is the best game I’ve ever played
SpiritCrusher2 03.07.22	I was actually a bit disappointed after the first few hours of the game, but after like 20 something hours I'd say it's a masterpiece and the ultimate fromsoft experience
SpiritCrusher2 03.07.22	it's basically super fun gameplay interspersed with so many moments of "omg this is so beautiful" and "WTF IS THIS SHIT" and it's all I want from a souls game and much more
Devastator 03.07.22	Astel the Voidborn is something straight out of Bloodborne design wise.
Veldin 03.07.22	Bump, Level 80! Absolutely love the Capitol City
Gyromania 03.07.22	Astel is amazing yeah, as is Leyndell. Make sure you go through the sewer in Leyndell too - it's huge
Gyromania 03.07.22	i feel like commander niall could have been a pretty cool boss if he wasn't the biggest pussy in the game
HelloJoe 03.07.22	And if his name wasn't Commander Niall.
heyadam 03.07.22	first souls game and I’m hella addicted. I’m a scared little boi rn that just got entrance through the a c a d e m y doors
zaruyache 03.08.22	hey i did that yesterday too. I glazed over the walkthrough to find the key so I wouldn't be cheating too much, but ended up finding it myself by just looking at the map anyway. And then the dogs killed me because ofc they did.
Avagantamos 03.08.22	there must be a hidden path or second entrance to the leyndell sewer I am missing, because I spent a decent amount of time down there and it was fairly small where i explored, barring the catacomb dungeon I found attached
Avagantamos 03.08.22	and yeah fuck dog enemies in any from game
trilo 03.08.22	fromsoft heard all the anger about dogs then said hold my beer and introduced a buncha annoying flying enemies in this game. fuckers lmao
JohnnyoftheWell 03.08.22	laughed aloud during the Rykard cutscene, love fromsoft's rare hysterical anime moments
trilo 03.08.22	TOGETHAAAAAAAAaaaa
zaruyache 03.08.22	they added fluffy doges and poison flying rats, then made bows better like that was supposed to be the consolation lol. I fumbled my way into Forth Faroth, saw the bats, and left my demi-human squad to take the hits while I dishonorably sprinted through.
Avagantamos 03.08.22	apparently those big flying poison bat things can sing. came across that at the ruin strewn precipice one time. I love all the little flavor details like that in the game. for instance I was in leyndell and I came across one of those perfumer assassins who was playing a flute along with the melody of the ambient theme playing around the capital.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.08.22	yeah, enemies in this game love their singsong. a lot of the ancestral spirit shamanpeople in the eternal city forest are at it too
Colton 03.08.22	i’ve only been to limgrave, caelid, liurnia and the weeping peninsula. how much more is there still?
Avagantamos 03.08.22	you've seen like less than half
trilo 03.08.22	of the main quest i think 3 areas + a mini area? with all the side content like way more. there's an absurd amount of underground areas and i don't mean any of the rehashed catacombs/caves
heyadam 03.08.22	as an astrologer, it’s sucks ass having my bullshit thrown back at me at the Academy lol
Colton 03.08.22	nice. got a sweet deal on a ps4 pro from Boreen Crunch so I’ll be hopefully enjoying the rest of this game with a better frame rate. although I’ve come to realize that regardless of frame rate there’s sort of an inherent clunkiness to fromsoft games and the animations
Gyromania 03.08.22	The fire giant is lame af. I've nearly killed him 3 times and I've only fought him 3 times but I'm already just so fucking fed up of this fight
WatchItExplode 03.08.22	Killed the witch and the dragon skin today
Anthracks 03.08.22	Fire Giant is a great fight. Not really demanding of skill so much as your ability to switch to and from horse
Anthracks 03.08.22	Also I’ve reached the point where I have no interest in leveling up any further
WatchItExplode 03.08.22	What level is that?
Anthracks 03.08.22	130
Gyromania 03.08.22	The second phase is just incredibly tedious. Gotta wait for specific moments where his hands are on the ground to get some damage. Also rly annoying when he rolls onto a huge pile or rocks or something. Visually cool, but a bit tedious to engage with
Gyromania 03.08.22	And yeah I'm lvl 135 and I'm just leveling up int/faith/arc now
Colton 03.08.22	so I just fought Crystalian and I’m super confused as to wtf just happened. at first I was doing like 12 damage per hit and just dodging him, and then suddenly my attacks started doing tons of damage, and he just stood there not fighting back until he was dead??
JohnnyoftheWell 03.08.22	Crystalian was one of the most weirdly satisfying fights I've had in the game - my usual strats are kinda DPS, but that was barely doing chip damage, so I switched midfight to the pizzacutter wheel of death and took down his entire health bar within about 4 seconds - that together with the animation where he explodes into thin air at the moment was so unexpected that I was just left there staring at the screen for idk how long until the giggles kicked in
Colton 03.08.22	do you know wtf happened here https://streamable.com/u8dw76
sonictheplumber 03.08.22	elden queef
Gyromania 03.08.22	You broke the enemy's "hyper armour" so to speak which turns them into a joke fight
Avagantamos 03.08.22	ordina, liturgical town evergaol is the first content I've encountered that I've deemed complete and utter bullshit
protokute 03.08.22	Gonna have to wait for the weekend to be able to play again :((((((((((((((((((((((
Gyromania 03.08.22	Gonna have to wait until I'm not puking my guts out to play. So fucking sick out of nowhere
protokute 03.08.22	damn bro
BaselineOOO 03.08.22	Not gonna lie I had a bunch of sexual phantasies with the Crystalian(s). I love myself a hard man who I can emotionally shatter any time I want.
BaselineOOO 03.08.22	ahahaha https://i.imgur.com/1bsSDK0.jpg
GhandhiLion 03.08.22	I wonder if it was inspired by elden ring when it was built
Veldin 03.08.22	Fromsoftwares “Eternal Ring” (2002) available on PS4/5 for $15
Gyromania 03.08.22	https://youtu.be/EEG5EZe1Tlc
WatchItExplode 03.08.22	You guys are intense. I'm level 51 and feel like I've played a very unhealthy amount already
SaveBandit 03.08.22	I haven't played in like 3-days and I swear to god I'm having withdrawals lmao. Wifey is going out of town from Wednesday to Sunday though, so I'll definitely have some free time to game. I think I'm right around level 90 and I feel like I'm maybe halfway through the story lol.
beefshoes 03.08.22	Beat Ranni's quest late last night, got the Berserker armor, and talk about one hell of a boss battle along the way.
Trebor. 03.08.22	The bosses that only appear at 2am or whatever are really annoying to me because if you die you have to go through the rigmarole of resetting the time and resting at the grace a couple times I'm almost 30 years in and I'm starting to get that long game burnout I usually get. Might have to take a week off
zakalwe 03.08.22	Same 32hrs in. Traipsing around without a clue getting annihilated by everything. Going to take a few days off from it. Still amazing though.
Colton 03.08.22	yeah i’m taking my time. I like to walk around off horse and just take everything in
Scheumke 03.08.22	I'm also 30 hours in atm. Did about a third of Liurnia and the Underground area I could do at this point, lvl 51 and really doubting what I want to do with my build. Btw, that Dragonkin Soldier of Noskella was a really cool fight, second phase felt like battling against a flying Godzilla. Not a hard fight, but def a fun one!
WatchItExplode 03.08.22	Rennala is by far the coolest fight I've had so far. I know it's gimmicky but I still loved it
SaveBandit 03.08.22	Has anyone beaten the serpent boss yet? Talk about a gimmick fight... but still a pain in the fucking ass.
Anthracks 03.08.22	Gyro have there been any negative repercussions to the frenzied flame ending yet? That’s probably the one I’m going to go with
Anthracks 03.08.22	Did anyone fight the dragonkin in the lake of rot? I don’t have the balls lmao
Avagantamos 03.09.22	some dude left a serpent killing spear in rykard's boss chamber when I fought him and it made the fight an absolute joke. I was doing like 3k damage with 1 hit
Gyromania 03.09.22	Anthracks: in the process of undoing it atm, if i can make it through the consecrated field, which is currently a top contender for the most dogshit fromsoft level
Gyromania 03.09.22	yeah the consecrated snowfield and ordina lithurgical town are peak-dumpster fire levels. assuming the B team from DS2 had a hand in crafting these areas
Gyromania 03.09.22	"Has anyone beaten the serpent boss yet? Talk about a gimmick fight... but still a pain in the fucking ass." yeah this was easy and honestly their best gimmick fight to date
trilo 03.09.22	the invisible mfs and archers in the ordina "puzzle" is so fucking stupid.
Tw1ster 03.09.22	Good lord, Godrick owned my ass for over an hour. I consider myself a souls vet and I just couldn’t read his moves and stalling attacks. Got him to with in one hit in my first few tries and then just got stupider and stupider. Ended up going in naked and beating him
Gyromania 03.09.22	trilo: yeah agreed. invisible enemy who spam grabs you to take out 80% of your health and archers with unlimited soul arrows shooting you from 3 different directions. the same kind of dogshit "HARD GAME" philosophy of areas like shrine of amana. hope to god the haligtree is worth it. so far it's been cool but the place you spawn in at is fairly annoying. i see fromsoft still has no clue how to do platforming on branches. tons of clipping on things and being pushed off by invisible walls
trilo 03.09.22	i got that sense with some of the late game areas in this game. it's a lot of "here's this enemy but now there's x more." it's annoying af because the combat in this game shines in 1v1s. can't forget the side dungeons that end in rehashed bosses with more health, or two of them etc. i still enjoyed the late game but those areas knocked the game down a peg for me.
Gyromania 03.09.22	yeah this is fromsoft's mastepriece imo but the late-game rehashes bosses to a stupid degree. like EVERY mini boss i fought in the game became a 2v1 mini boss later. and many main game bosses like wolf od radagon got recycled as basic enemies 7 times. i hate when they do this shit because it just devalues the experience with those big boss encounters so much. like i'm making my way through the haligtree and i see the leonine misbegotten is a normal enemy, who was also a mini boss in two dungeons i went through earlier. what incentive do i have to ever fight him at castle morne now on ng+? why is he even a trophy boss if he's just going to become a copy-paste basic enemy later on? a lot of people have been critical on the graphics and npc quests etc and none of that stuff bothers me in the slightest, but this is my real issue with fromsoft. it rly screws up the lore too. the red wolf of radagon... except there are like 8 of them. so he had 8 of the same wolf?
Gyromania 03.09.22	mohg lord of blood is insane
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	i have no issue platforming on branches get better didnt u complain about radahn too lmao, garbage player
Gyromania 03.09.22	pretty sure i defended radahn and said he was awesome but OKAY WILL DO
beefshoes 03.09.22	It took forever but I beat Morgott last night. Definitely my favorite boss so far mechanically speaking. Rykard was also a ton of fun. Felt like the perfect evolution of the Storm King/Yhorm idea.
Gyromania 03.09.22	yeah agreed hard. still a gimmick but actually challenging. morgott is for sure one of my favourites atm but the game is full of amazing bosses
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	mimic tear is making this game easier than bb ngl regardless best game ever made
ReefaJones 03.09.22	Rykards second phase is visually the most stunning but was also annoying af with those fire skulls. Radahn felt the most epic so far. Also really loved the visuals of Naturalborn of the Void. Amazing boss design on that one
Gyromania 03.09.22	i only just started using mimic tear because i was stuck on mohg lord of blood for way too long and yeah, it turns this game into easy mode. might need it for melania too if the rumours are true
ReefaJones 03.09.22	mimic tear feels like cheese to me so I can't bring myself to use it lol
ReefaJones 03.09.22	Same goes for basically any summon with a huge health pool. The fact alone that they take the boss's aggro away from you makes the fights 10 times more easy
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	it is cheese. decided ima stop using it today unless I fight the same boss for 2 days straight or something wild as a tank build it legit gives me another tank that heals itself. dont recall losing a boss fight since lmao
Gyromania 03.09.22	i'd say just use it if you're stuclk on a boss for a long ass time. like if my death counter gets to the 30s or 40s against malenia, yeah damn right i'm going to use it lol
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efSc9tBWS6Y this is legit the best soulslike OST since gwyn
Mongi123 03.09.22	I gotta say, as someone who’s favorite gaming studio is fromsoft, I’m pretty peeved about this game. It’s awesome when the highs are there, which is a lot, but when the negatives show up, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY GLARING like the flaming eye of mordor. Every one of their games involve a first boss that is challenging, but you know, kinda their for you to kill after a couple hours of getting better. Not here. There’s a fine line between fair difficulty, and taking literally 20 hours to beat the FIRST boss. Both Margit and Godric are horrible fights and Starscourge is the worst of all. They look stunning but are unfair beyond belief and makes Manus feel like a Mario boss. Plus, the map is unclear sometimes, the actual work you put in beating brutally hard enemies often yields literal shit for items. I often beat brutal hunter like enemy for just a Rune Arc. My character will randomly without warning will sometimes just hop off my horse when I need him. Particularly in the wailing dunes when I need him most for reasons I still don’t know. When I switch weapons sometimes I have to press the button twice, causing many deaths. Idk, like I said, they are glaring, but onto positives. The graphic are weirdly disappointing and honestly Demon Souls looks so much better. But any, the positives. Absolutely gorgeous and well thought out open world, I love it. Most of fromsofts polish, humor and well earned intimidation remains intact. PATCHES! POT MAN! Lol. Amazing enemy and boss design. The Dragon Soldier and The Blasphemy Shardbearer are incredible. Torrent and making crafting and upgrading more approachable. Very good, engaging and addicting game,but prob one I don’t have to play again like the others due to the negatives.
Mort. 03.09.22	'Both Margit and Godric are horrible fights' lol wat
Flugmorph 03.09.22	beat godrick today, took me 5 tries, same amount of attempts i needed for margit.
Mongi123 03.09.22	Don’t get me wrong, they are visually incredible, but to actually fight them is a day long pummeling. At least it was for me. I’ve honestly felt under leveled for most of the main line bosses even with grinding about 10 levels. Maybe I’m not good but then again, but beaten Sekrio so I’d never say I’m not good at their games haha
ReefaJones 03.09.22	Sekiro's combat is a lot different than pretty much any of their other games though
ReefaJones 03.09.22	Margit and Godrick both didn't take me more than 3 tries maybe. The first boss that took me like 20 tries was Radahn that motherfucker is difficult but also a lot of fun
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	that entire giant paragraph is dogdoo and if it took u that long 2 beat the first two bosses ur terrible af
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	"Plus, the map is unclear sometimes" ahahahahaha
ReefaJones 03.09.22	I've done some invasions and noticed that like 90% of players put almost no points into vigor. My guess is it's those same people who think the bosses are too hard acting surprised when they get oneshotted. Vigor people, invest in it.
Colton 03.09.22	do people not realize the game is open world? you don't have to do a boss fight you're underleveled for. just leave and come back...
ReefaJones 03.09.22	.
Gyromania 03.09.22	man, malenia is broken to a hysterical degree. not sure what to do at this point, might need to completely change my build
ReefaJones 03.09.22	that being said there are some absolute cancerous boss fights in this game and it's mostly when Fromsofts decides to make you fight two at the same time *cough* valiant gargoyles *cough*
necropig 03.09.22	Finished the game on monday, i now have my life back, which is non existent to begin with :3
Mongi123 03.09.22	Thanks. Wanted to have a good convo involving my experience with a game from my fav studio with people that have been playing it and I just get hahahahaha you suck hahahahaha are you stupid??? Then I remember this is the internet and especially Sputnik so fucking bye. Have a nice day. @Reef Ill have one with you though thanks for actually know how to debate about a game. @Gyro hit me up if you want, we could chat about it 👌
Gyromania 03.09.22	yeah radahn is hard af but margit and godrick didn't take me more than a few tries either. what reefa said is good advice: vigor is SUPER important in this game, definitely get that up fast because it'll not only give you more health but make you tankier in general.
Gyromania 03.09.22	sent you a fb message
ZobyTiegler 03.09.22	"There’s a fine line between fair difficulty, and taking literally 20 hours to beat the FIRST boss. Both Margit and Godric are horrible fights and Starscourge is the worst of all. They look stunning but are unfair beyond belief and makes Manus feel like a Mario boss. Plus, the map is unclear sometimes," this is literal stupidity and none of the bosses are unfair get better lmao
heyadam 03.09.22	@mongi I’m a brand new souls player and took out Margit in 5 tries, and I probably suck at this game lol
ReefaJones 03.09.22	@ZobyTiegler Stop acting like a cringe 13 year old pimple face
Gyromania 03.09.22	fuck malenia
Gyromania 03.09.22	finally beat malenia but my feelings on her are very mixed. her moves are badass, her cutscenes rule, the soundtrack is great. so many things about the fight work, but i feel like her healing mechanic just completely ruins the fight. maybe they expect you to be like level 200 by the time you get to her or something, idk. perhaps i'll enjoy her more on ng+
Veldin 03.09.22	Level 95, 60 hours. Still need to do Lake of Rot, Mt Glemir, Mountaintop of Giants etc
RadioSuicide 03.09.22	Rennala is the shittiest fight I've encountered so far, both because i had to suicide twice because of the same bug, and because the fight is just flat out easy.
ReefaJones 03.09.22	Rennala was hard for me because I had a sorcerer build. She's borderline impossible with that build because you run out of fp before you kill her
trilo 03.09.22	gyro: nah malenia is kinda booty her whirlwind attack is the dumbest shit in the game
Colton 03.09.22	idk if anyone besides gyro watched that video i linked earlier but my crystalian fight was the dumbest fight of all time
Gyromania 03.09.22	trilo: do we know of a way to reliably dodge that? because i tried like 25 times and it seemed like it was impossible not to get hit
beefshoes 03.09.22	A few friends who've gotten to late game have been complaining about serious balancing issues. Kinda wondering about where the meta will eventually be and the impact that upcoming patches will have. Where the hardcaps are apparently higher, hybrid builds are probably encouraged by design, and the meta could end up being around 150, no? A pure strength build has been viable so far, but I can tell that I'll probably hit some walls with some of the last bosses, and don't want to respec or rely on cheese for bosses like Malenia
Colton 03.09.22	this video really shows the frame rate issues I've had on ps4. watch starting from 10:30 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAELcDOjZns&t=630s
trilo 03.09.22	@gyro: i think people figured out doing a specific combination of rolls in diff directions or something was reliable, but the fact it's complete trial and error to figure out or you need to look it up online is just stupid af
SaveBandit 03.09.22	That's wild Colton. I'm on PS4 too and haven't seen anything like that lol. Maybe I'm just lucky.
ReefaJones 03.09.22	hardest fucking to dodge bullshit attack in this game was that lightning strike by draconian tree sentinel right before the royal capital. You had to be frame perfect.
Anthracks 03.09.22	there are a LOT of one hit kill attacks in this game so high health is indeed essential. i can't tell you the amount of times i've been one-shotted despite being probably over-leveled
Colton 03.09.22	really eh bandit? that’s interesting. how old is your ps4? I got mine like a month after they came out, maybe that’s why it’s so severe for me. getting a ps5 tonight though
Gyromania 03.10.22	placidusax is a masterpiece of a boss fight. i've been dying to it for over an hour now and i'm not even mad
ConcubinaryCode 03.10.22	How's the music in this?
Gyromania 03.10.22	Superb
ConcubinaryCode 03.10.22	Nice, I might delve into the ost since it's more accessible than the game haha. Someone should also make a soulsborne album ranking. That'd be cool. 👉👈
SpiritCrusher2 03.10.22	"I've done some invasions and noticed that like 90% of players put almost no points into vigor. My guess is it's those same people who think the bosses are too hard acting surprised when they get oneshotted. Vigor people, invest in it." yea, it's weird to me how people just blindly go with the build they had in mind and don't actually adjust to what game throws at you. I mean if Margit needs 1 or 2 hits to kill me, and I need like 50 to kill her, ofc I'm gonna put some points into VIG on the other hand, I don't think I've put a point into END for like first 20 levels. the game gives you too much stamina from the start imo
Gyromania 03.10.22	On the final boss atm
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	vigor upgrading simulator - the game
Gyromania 03.10.22	Is this your first FromSoft game? Vigor is pretty important in all of their games
JohnnyoftheWell 03.10.22	fuck the fire giant forever, hated that fight. got up to mohg before taking on the fire giant but wasn't sure the moment was right giving how jacked the sewers were. now facing a choice between him and the godskin duo - who should go first?
Gyromania 03.10.22	the godskin duo is peak trash gank boss design, just go with lord of blood (honestly one of the best fights in the game imo). the fire giant is cool in a lot of ways, but phase 2 is so fucking lame because you just have to wait until his weak point is exposed, and those kind of fights usually end up being my least favourite
Gyromania 03.10.22	what are your favourite bosses so far johnny boi
Gyromania 03.10.22	ALSO don't miss the optional boss in farum. it might be top 3 in the game for me
trilo 03.10.22	godskin duo is pure garbage i cant believe its mandatory
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	Tbh most boss fights in this game are mediocre.
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_i_TJNJYQE This guy be spitting. He mirrors my view about this game. Elden Ring is amazing for the first couple of hours, until you realize it's flawed to the core because :::: From's vision was corrupted. It's starting to feel like a massive disappointment. Literally can't wait to be done with everything in this game and play DS2 and Sekiro a third time lol.
Gyromania 03.10.22	"Tbh most boss fights in this game are mediocre." um no
Gyromania 03.10.22	DS2 is a dumpsterfire of a game compared to this. it's not even well designed man. adaptability is the dumbest fucking thing they've ever done. spec into it and boom you have the best dodge roll ever with endless iframes. don't spec into it and the game is trash. how tf do you balance boss fights around this? answer: you can't. i'm all for the sekiro love tho game is a masterpiece. and tbf i don't think there's a boss here i love as much as owl father or sword saint, so
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	Which boss was your favorite, Gyro?
Colton 03.10.22	game runs super well on ps5, I have no complaints anymore other than the game being too easy later on cause it levels you up so fast. killing every boss with ease now
Gyromania 03.10.22	dragonlord placidusax, morgott, astel, black blade malekith, godskin apostle (end of caelid tower), radahn, rykard. idk man there's so many i really like. i think placidusax was a "holy fuck" moment for sure.
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	Dragonlord Placidusax and Morgott were my favorite ones as well, followed by Godskin Apostle. See, we're not that different! I just have this disappointment feeling with me on my shoulder while playing this game, preventing me from enjoying it at times.
Colton 03.10.22	shut up johnny
Gyromania 03.10.22	i'm down for anyone shitting on this while praising sekiro and bloodborne but DS2 MY GUY!? does not compute lol. and yeah placidusax - that lightning move blew me away
zakalwe 03.10.22	Came back to this after a day and a bit off and I’m starting to get a bit fucked off with it now. No idea where I’m going, what I’m doing can’t find any sufficient upgrades for me piss poor weapons and am at a loss.
Scheumke 03.10.22	Talk to us zak. Where are you, what do you need in terms of upgrades whats your build etc. I'm still loving every second of it 34 hours (lvl 56) in. I think it really helps that I only have about an hour and a half to play everyday with some more in the weekends. Still very much in the hypezone also knowing I have so much yet to do.
zakalwe 03.10.22	Level 40ish astrologer. Have done the witch at the academy who does the reincarnation re-birthing stone thingy and am now just walking around getting clobbered by everything. Them fucking great tarantula hand things. No chance. That knight golem thing outside the bloke who eats deathroots. Absolutely no chance. The place where then spirit things shoot the soul arrow wotists. No chance That weird, blood soaked swampy place with all the weird shit. So-so but seems a bit (not quite yet)
Colton 03.10.22	I’m honestly having the opposite problem, level 60 with bloodhound’s fang +5 and the game is too easy, gonna stop leveling and hope it gets harder again
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	Don't worry zakalwe, it's not just you. Souls games veteran here and I can assure you this game is in fact an unbalanced mess. You need to invest heavily in vigor if you want to have an easy life, like, double than you did in their previous games. Go vigor 30+ before you even have 20 in strength or dexterity or intelligence. Upgrade your armament and ashes of war instead of trying to get an A/S scaled weapon. Also, use a shield this time.
zakalwe 03.10.22	Yeah I’m vigor 13 at the min so that might not be helping too much lol.
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	In order to get good at this game you'd first need to survive. Definitely focus on vigor, a decent armor and a shield capable of 100% physical block.
Colton 03.10.22	if your endurance isn’t twice as high as your vigor youre playin like a bitch
Scheumke 03.10.22	Get your negative attitude away from my bliss Base, it's fouling up the place ;) (joke obv). I'm more in the camp with Colton, I'm still cruising through Liurnia of the Lakes (have done Caria Castle but not Raya Lucaria yet) and everything almost feels too simple. I have 25 in vigor at lvl 56 with about 28 str wielding the Zweihander and I have no problem with my healthpool tbh. Yeah some of the bigger enemies tend to oneshot me with their big attacks, but that's as it should be imo. My advise would be to backtrack a bit and get some more minibosses down to level up a bit more before moving on. Also, don't forget to raid through all the mines that show up on your map, they have a ton of upgrade materials. My weapon is +13 and I actually thought the Magma Wyrm was a miniboss by how fast I was melting him.
zakalwe 03.10.22	I’m heading back in to find the mines. The fuck is the magma wyrm?
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	It's not about overall level, that's the problem. A 70+ level build with below 20 vigor is unsustainable in this game imo. Vigor in this game is like Adaptability in DS2, almost game-breaking, unless you beat every boss without getting hit ONCE or something. I'm 33 vigor with medium-heavy armor and many bosses still two shot me, imagine how zakalwe would feel with his 13 vigor in front of a force of nature like Radahn.
protokute 03.10.22	those big tarantula hands things sucks hard
Scheumke 03.10.22	That has been the case with every fromsoft game though. Not putting any points in health = you get oneshot by bosses. Walking with 13 vigor into Radahn is the equivalent of walking into Lothric bro's or O&S without extra health, you're gonna get dumpstered if you don't play that perfectly. That's not bad game design imo, it's been in place since OG Demon's Souls.
Colton 03.10.22	zak are you asking what the magma wyrm is or where it is
Gyromania 03.10.22	Colton don't worry you're going to get fucking stomped in the last like 15 hours
trilo 03.10.22	lol yeah the game is a steamroll up until the final few areas where you can no longer overlevel
protokute 03.10.22	is it worth putting points in Mind midgame just for using the better summons? Currently as level 68 as mostly a STR build
zakalwe 03.10.22	Colton. Where mate.
Gyromania 03.10.22	Yeah you could be lvl 200 and I don't think it would mean shit against bosses like Melania. This is easily their hardest endgame imo, which makes their statement about expecting more players to complete this than their other games a bit perplexing to me. Also 1200 COMMENTS BOYS. Damn
Gyromania 03.10.22	Haven't heard from chan since release. I can only assume he's locked himself in a cabin without internet to play the game
MyColdShoulder 03.10.22	I agree about endgame, shit absolutely shreds you regardless of vigor. Kind of feels like the game is balanced around spirit ashes, which I'm personally not a fan of
Gyromania 03.10.22	**endgame spoiler** am i the only one who thinks radagon fucking sucks to fight? i beat maliketh fairly quickly and he's fast af with crazy combos, super enjoyable. radagon is just nonstop awkward, slow attacks with lol damage and annoying aoe. genuinely fucking hate this boss, but i rly do like elden beast. prob in the minority on this one
JohnnyoftheWell 03.10.22	"what are your favourite bosses so far johnny boi" ummm Godrick was fun, loved Rennala, Rykard was a lot of fun, feeling like i'd broken the game when i demolished Crystalian was an accidental highlight and i really liked how they maintained the pressure in the Astel fight. my boss preferences for souls games need a few plays to straighten out though, first playthrough always comes with too much salt for guys like Morgott haven't found the optional Farum boss yet, but i kinda pelted that level - do you get it before or after the duo?
SaveBandit 03.10.22	Morgott was a rewarding fight tho. Felt good to finally get him after so many tries.
Gyromania 03.10.22	godrick was a lot of fun yeah, rennala didn't give me much issue either. i think rykard was the most enjoyable for me of the ones you mentioned, alongside astel. morgott i found to be really fun but it's hard as fuck. i'm the same with souls games where sometimes the fights i hate the most on my first playthrough end up being my favourites. idk if i'm going to feel that about this game though, i've been fighting the final boss for over an hour and i genuinely fucking despise everything about this fight lol. also re: farum: if you've arrived on the huge staircase leadig to the boss door, you've gone too far. it's hidde over a ledge and not easy to spot so i def recommend watching a youtube vid on how to get there
zakalwe 03.10.22	Hold up lads I’m back in. Went to the crystal mine place where the bird in the armour goes down like a sack of shit if you R2. Buffed up me staff now I can buy shards off the haggard Siamese twin thing. Now vigor 15. Smashing the tarantula hand things. Love it.
BaselineOOO 03.10.22	zakalwe get this https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Crimson+Hood ; you can get it early. it's not much and it adds one extra vigor point
zakalwe 03.10.22	Nice. That’s the brummie bird whose sat in the shacks quest isn’t it? I don’t think I did that one. So Whose tuning my spirits now then? Weird.
GhandhiLion 03.10.22	Thoughts on Stomu Yamashta?
trilo 03.11.22	**spoiler** @gyro it was honestly the opposite for me. maliketh was a huge bitch just because of his speed and mobility. felt like it was impossible to get any damage in as a UGS wielder. radagon wasn't too bad just had to make sure not to burn a ton of estus for final boss. i agree w/ you elden beast is cool other than the particle fx blindness at times. side note: his design kinda weird - felt like fromsoft couldn't let go of their proclivity to give everyone a giant weapon lmao
Gyromania 03.11.22	*Spoilers* Accidentally deleted my last comment lol but the salt remains, man. Just beat the game and got the age of stars ending. Still very sour about the final boss but ELDEN BEAST RULES so idk man.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.11.22	just took down the duo and am seething ugggh. just about pulled it off with some well-gauged mimic tear summon bleed antics, but holy shit that fight was a trainwreck ...but was almost redeemed by how Vietnam by Crystal Castles started playing the second i sliced the final blow. humanity restored!
MyColdShoulder 03.11.22	Malenia is absolute bullshit and super unfun. Quite possibly one of my least favorite bosses from software has ever created. Which sucks cause she's a really cool character
Gyromania 03.11.22	Haha yeah that Godskin duo fight is some serious bs but mimic tear makes it manageable. Malenia is actually broken. Like I'm not saying that because I'm salty she's so hard, she's literally broken and needs to be fixed. Her huge combo attack (you know the one) is unavoidable. I dodged it one time by sheer luck. There's no way to reliable avoid all the hits and if you're badly positioned it's almost always a guaranteed insta kill for her. I think she's one of the coolest bosses they've ever made, but she's ruined by that one stupid ass attack, and the health regen is also totally unnecessary. Without those two key components she would still be one of the hardest bosses they've ever made, but with them she just becomes overkill. She's the only boss in the game I hope they take a look at and rebalance. I also fucking hated the first phase of the final boss and I think it's because my weapon just didn't do enough damage to him. Once I switched to a bleed katana I started doing massive 1500 damage hits and the fight became 10x easier, but for whatever reason my dragon halberd which got me through most of the game was completely fucking useless against first phase (weirdly enough tho it did stupid damage to phase 2, so I don't get it)
Colton 03.11.22	game is no longer too easy, I was just in the wrong areas. took me a good hour and a half to beat draconic tree sentinel. felt good to finally get him and get into Leyndell. is Leyndell supposed to be an endgame area? it has a sense of finality about it
Gyromania 03.11.22	i thought the same of leyndell but no, you still have a massive area after this + 2 legacy dungeons (one of which is missable)
Colton 03.11.22	awesome. now that I no longer have any technical issues this might be the best game I’ve ever played. everything I’ve ever wanted in an open world game really
Colton 03.11.22	also fuck that fight with 2 tree sentinels in the capital outskirts lol. harder than the draconic sentinel fight for me
Colton 03.11.22	also went to the corner of Caelid where there’s a dungeon of sorts, that one boss that guards it does crazy damage. black blade something I think
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.22	I don’t think I should ever be allowed to play this game, or any games. There’s no time for that.
Gyromania 03.11.22	oh dude black blade kindred is NOT to be fought until near the end haha. he's still hard af even when you're done the capitol city. did you fight radahn yet?
Colton 03.11.22	oh shit eh. nah I haven’t fought radahn. I thought black blade would be doable cause I beat the dragon right beside him and it wasn’t too bad
Gyromania 03.11.22	nah black blade is considerably harder than that dragon. so you've obviously been raya lucaria and now you're right at the capitol city... you should go fight radahn. i mean, depending on your level.
Gyromania 03.11.22	has anyone seen this? https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/03/07/western-game-devs-mocked-after-criticizing-elden-ring-as-poorly-designed/ this shit is hilariously. the horizon dev posted another cringe tweet last night that isn't featured in this article. never seen devs lash out like this over a game's success. super embarrassing.
Colton 03.11.22	didn’t the first Horizon come out right after Breath of the Wild too? honestly I would be bitter too lol. Horizon looks cool though, I wanna get it to to test the power of the ps5 cause I heard it looks and runs amazing, not gonna pay $100 for it though
zakalwe 03.11.22	Definitely back on the road with this now I’ve got that katana blade from the Wyrm thing.
Colton 03.11.22	the game was originally just gonna be called Ring until Zak played it
zakalwe 03.11.22	Haha.
Scheumke 03.11.22	Glad you're back on track and enjoying it zak! I'm def overleveled for Raya Lucaria. The enemies in the beginning were obnoxious, but the red doggo boss literally died after two charged attacks. Fight took about 30 seconds, which is a shame because he looked really cool.
Gyromania 03.11.22	Don't worry you'll get to fight him 1500 more times
Colton 03.11.22	yeah fox boi was easy, the main boss in that dungeon was decently challenging though. still got her on I think my 5th try cause I was overlevelled but she can kill you fast
Colton 03.11.22	if you feel overleveled now don’t worry, it gets harder when you get into the next area
beefshoes 03.11.22	Just wait until the endgame. Most brutal shit Fromsoft has ever done.
JayEnder 03.11.22	So should I buy this if I'm trash at Souls games?
Colton 03.11.22	yep
Gyromania 03.11.22	Gotta agree with beef, the endgame is the hardest they've ever made. It rly doesn't matter what level you are you're going to get owned regardless
Scheumke 03.11.22	Thank god haha. Yeah I've just started Caelid and it already feels like a much healthier challenge. What do you guys say btw, Caelid before Altus or other way around?
Gyromania 03.11.22	i did caelid after i 100%'d liurnia and it was a solid challenge. radahn could be an endgame boss tho he's so fucking hard. i think he's good for like lvl 70-80, which is where i was around when i fought and beat him (worth noting it took me like 2 hours though)
BaselineOOO 03.11.22	What bosses did you like in Caelid the most, Gyro? Oddly enough, I loved Death Rite Bird and Radahn (he's a softy once you get to know him when you're sufficiently leveled up) the most. Black Blade Kindred was so easy I wouldn't even consider it a boss fight lol. And, OMG, Fallingstar Beast was so shitty, like a DS1 boss, what the hell was the deal with that fight!
Gyromania 03.11.22	death rite bird is infuckingsane in a later area in the game (the mountains), but in caelid i think radahn and godskin apostle were hands down the best. black blade kindred is stupid op for most of the game lol. once you're leveled up a decent bit it becomes much easier. fallingstar beast was most enjoyable outside of volcano manor imo, just loved the aesthetics of the battle (him being in a crator and the way you jump up to him)
BaselineOOO 03.11.22	I guess I agree that Black Blade Kindred is OP but only if he hits ya, he's predictable af, got him on my second try. Apostle was great, but the fight felt too much like a mini-boss arena. I wish he got a cutscene or something.
SaveBandit 03.11.22	I got Black Blade my first try, didn't think he was OP? I agree though, the aesthetic for the Fallingstar fight outside of volcano manor ruled. Really interesting terrain and the view was rad.
Gyromania 03.11.22	i wish he wasn't recycled af (like most bosses in the game). i thought the arena was dope tho, def not the standard mini boss arena. i mean maybe the same size, but it was noticeably different looking to me. also that tower was awesome, some of the best platforming they've done imo. as for black blade, his sword is the only thing that scares me. the halberd is so easy to deal with tho
Slex 03.12.22	I absolutely loved Fallingstar Beast, super fun, decent challenge, and he just looks cool and weird as hell
MyColdShoulder 03.12.22	Just beat the game, and I gotta say I'm glad it's over. The first 2/3 of the game was fantastic, then everything after that was a massive disappointment. So much recycled content that I just wish didn't exist, every zone was just exhausting to get through, and the bosses are completely over tuned with unreal speed and damage. Really feels like the game is designed with summons, and I really dislike being forced to play a certain way. Really bummed out
Gyromania 03.12.22	at what point do you consider the last 1/3 of the game begins? you didn't enjoy the haligtree? or farum azula? you didn't like any of the endgame bosses? i will agree that some are overtuned though, specifically malenia. radagon absolutely fucked me too but i found out the weapon i used against him wasn't ideal... even still he hits like a truck and has some rly bs aoe hitboxes
ReefaJones 03.12.22	You know Malenia is broken when ChaseTheBro, who is probably the biggest god at these games was stuck on her for like 3 hours before he changed to another weapon. Her anime combo needs to be nerfed.
ReefaJones 03.12.22	"also fuck that fight with 2 tree sentinels in the capital outskirts lol. harder than the draconic sentinel fight for me" Lmao I first encountered them from behind because I started to explore the outskirts of that region first and you naturally end up behind them then I just aggro'd them 1 by 1 from behind and took em out first try
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	I didn't feel Malenia was that difficult to deal with tbh. She's my second favorite fight in the game, I had so much fun felling her. Here's an interesting tutorial on how to dodge that anime move. I've never managed to completely dodge it, but I usually got hit by the last part of the combo. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s4LWoUOsRU
ReefaJones 03.12.22	the problem is that you can only win the fight with good rng. If she spams the anime move (especially if she does it while you are near her) then chances are you are done. That's a flaw in her design and it needs to be fixed. Btw I am talking abotu fighting her with no summons. That would change the dynamic. As I said: When one of the best players ever struggles with her for 3 hours then beats her first try with another weapon, something went wrong.
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	With that I can agree, I guess she has to be fought in a specific way. It took me like 12 attempts with +10 Rosus' Axe, maybe I was lucky, but it seemed like a fair fight to me. Anyway, what's up with people using katanas lately? They're so slow and have no range. I don't get it. Blood loss buildup is nice, but cmon!
ReefaJones 03.12.22	Moonveil Katana is considered one of the strongest weapons in the game because of the insane weapon art that's super quick and does massive damage. I think the blood katana is considered to be very good too. Not sure what you are talking about
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	Spamming weapon arts is not my style I guess. I hate katanas!
ReefaJones 03.12.22	good for you
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	If anything, the fact that ChaseTheBro dude uses a trash weapon with no range in a fight he admitted right from the beginning needs distancing is not From Software's problem. Sheer damage and weapon arts don't mean shit sometimes. ChaseTheBro learned his lesson, he got gud. I'm tired of all these nobodies meleeing around with no shield acting like they're god damn heroes, then complaining they can't win, when in fact their strategy is just crap.
ReefaJones 03.12.22	you sound more and more like a tryhard the longer you go on. ChaseTheBro has played more souls than maybe anyone on the planet lol the dude literally breezes through most bosses. He literally wins 99% of his invasions vs 3 man squads. He's better than you and me will ever be at this game. You calling the Moonveil a trash weapon doesn't mean it is. It's one of the best weapons in the game. Also, it really shouldn't matter which weapon u you use in a sgame like this. They should all be viable to beat the game. What made him able to beat the boss first try with the halberd was the fact that he literally by that point knew her moveset by heart and that the halberd staggered her more easily which is something you have to try as the game doesn't tell you that. She's broken and needs to be fixed which I believe she will (At least her op combo)
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	"ChaseTheBro has played more souls than maybe anyone on the planet" I bet the best Souls players do not have time to stream and socialize, but alright, I'll play along. "He's better than you and me will ever be at this game." Most likely, but you don't know how good I am at these games, so that's a mute point. "You calling the Moonveil a trash weapon doesn't mean it is. It's one of the best weapons in the game." It's one of the best close-range weapons in the game. If you take range into calculations it's trash, like any katana. "Also, it really shouldn't matter which weapon u you use in a sgame like this. They should all be viable to beat the game." It actually doesn't. The katana is viable to beat Malenia. ChaseTheBro just couldn't do it at that time because he was too busy streaming and talking. "What made him able to beat the boss first try with the halberd was the fact that he literally by that point knew her moveset by heart and that the halberd staggered her more easily which is something you have to try as the game doesn't tell you that." So like in literally any Souls game, where you have to adapt and learn the weaknesses of the enemies, got it.
ReefaJones 03.12.22	alright bro you got it all figured out.
ReefaJones 03.12.22	the game is perfect in every way even the weapon glitches that let you insta curse bitches nothing needs to be fixed just get gud
MyColdShoulder 03.12.22	If I have to play a certain way in order to beat a boss, such as changing my build or using summons, then it's shit design. I have played every from software game before this and I never felt this way. Most bosses in this game I never felt satisfied, I felt relieved that I never had to do that shit again. Also by last 1/3 I pretty much mean everything after leyndell.
Gyromania 03.12.22	Yeah idk baseline, I think the whole point is you shouldn't have to resort to playing her a particular way to be successful. I've really never had to rely on summons/cheap ass tactics to win against a FromSoft boss before malenia. I don't think it's a point of pride either, it's just fun to get good enough at hard bosses to overcome them on your own; to be able to say you overcame a huge challenge. Malenia really robs the player of that feeling because she has a straight up bs broken move and feels overtuned. Once artificial difficulty becomes a factor a boss significantly loses appeal. It's doubly frustrating too because malenia is extremely badass and her fight could have been a masterpiece. I tried her for nearly two hours before I said fuck this and summoned my mimic tear, when I did the fight became a joke and I was robbed of the satisfaction of overcoming an immense challenge
ReefaJones 03.12.22	All they need to change in that fight really is to make her uber combo reliably dodgeable. The rest of the fight is fine.
trilo 03.12.22	id prob get rid of the lifesteal too but yeah the anime whirlwind shit is cancer. they really loved adding shit like that to this game
Gyromania 03.12.22	lifesteal is fine too imo just reduce it. like 600-700 hp per hit? even if it hits your shield. that's fucking stupid
JohnnyoftheWell 03.12.22	okay hmmm updates Maliketh: um, midkey loved this fight but feel it needs a small nerf. i went down what felt like a hundred times to its aerial range shots or spin-to-wins (aoes not so much, feel those are well balanced) and the animation and intensity were so top-notch that i didn't mind getting walloped, but i still feel this could be a fairer challenge. big fan of the Vicar Amelia x Artorias cutscene (two of my favs yesss), but the lore and visual design gave it its own edge. awesome shit, but i feel it could have been a series highlight and was just a little too flash-in-a-pan/brutal. will probs warm to it further on repeats. Farum Azur: is archdragon peak (kinda meh area) on steroids. the level design is some of the best in the game, but the enemies themselves made it a huge grind at points. overall solid endgame content i killed Mohg...the Omen. ah well. fun fight, apprehensive about how the real deal is gonna go Gideon: needs more health, but badass fight. melted him a little too easily H**** ***x: hahaha yes, awesome fight. anime as all fuck. great fun Consecrated Snowfield: literally no-one wanted a Frigid Outskirts revival, but this played into Elden Ring's exploration strengths. kinda cool level, if kinda limited. enjoyed discovering the snow caravan a lot, and got a kick out of cheesing the magma wyrm to death. that mausoleum was the stuff of TERROR though!! Ordina: y'all hated this, huh? i went in expecting to ragequit, but it wasn't so bad - died a couple of times, did a dry run of the torches, and got it on my third or fourth try. i'd cut the mage-archers' health points by a steep chunk to make it a fairer challenge - otherwise, a pretty forgettable part of the game for me Haligtree: am going to bed 2 signs of grace into this level, but damn it's gorgeous. loving it so far, feeling a lot of dread given all the scarlet rot callbacks from caelid and everyone's takes on malenia, but I have a feeling this will end up a favourite
Gyromania 03.12.22	wait, you missed placidusax. i'll respond to all that other stuff too, but i need to know
Colton 03.12.22	I’m so lost in Leyndell rn
Gyromania 03.12.22	okay so, i thought maliketh was very badass. for some reason his first phase fucked me up more, once it got to phase 2 i was just like "OH SHIT WE DODGE ROLLING LIKE MAD NOW". it reminded me of those fast intense fights from ds2 dlc like friede and it just felt so natural to dodge everything he did. i think the fight is well tuned considering you fight him at half health, i would maybe take away the health bar decrease though, that is a bit brutal. also yeah i was thinking the same, it's archdragon peak but way better. i think archdragon peak is still pretty good overall but this overshadows it no doubt. the actual mohg fight is a highlight imo, i think you're gonna like it but it is def hard af. gideon is honestly kind of bs. i died to him once but like, it's not a fun fight - if you don't close the distance fast you just get wrecked or have to spam roll 1000 times until you finally have a clear opening (usually when he does malenia's rot move), and yeah he gets melted pretty fast. loux is amazing yeah. that entire fight was so fucking bitchin, one of my favourites in the game (and omfg that soundtrack). fuck the consecrated snowfield. i just hated how linear the north was overall, feels like the game steadily moves away from big explorable areas after liurnia and puts you on a much more linear path and it kind of sucks a bit. i hated ordina so much because i didn't find the nearby grace. i died 3 times there but the trek back was fucking brutal. also that assassin is just bs. when you fight him when he's not invisible you realize just how stupid his grab move is to dodge when fully invisible. haligtree was a highlight for me. one of their most beautiful levels.. honestly maybe my favourite in the game. you're gonna love it more as you descend.
Colton 03.12.22	I definitely don't feel like it gets more linear right after Liurnia cause Altus is vast af and I'm currently lost within Leyndell right now which seems impossible to navigate. but maybe it gets more linear after here
Gyromania 03.12.22	atlus is noticeably much much smaller than limgrave or liurnia. you can factor in the mountain portion of it but it feels like an entirely different region so idk, and even then there isn't THAT much to do there. my biggest issue with the game tho, by fucking far, is the reskinned bosses, and how they use reskins as duo fights in the latter half of the game. it's the worst thing about this game and i honestly wish they would have done something a little differen, or just not had boss fights at all in some areas. fighting the ulcerated tree spirit 9 times was exhausting and rly uninspired
Colton 03.12.22	idk it felt more dense to me, Liurnia mostly just felt like a big shallow foggy lake. I really explored every corner of Altus before entering Leyndell though. as for double boss fights, the only one I've encountered is the one with two tree sentinels and it sucks
Gyromania 03.12.22	you haven't been exploring then, there are reskins even in limgrave and liurnia. also liurnia is packed with content, atlus plateau and mountain of giants have like 3 or 4 caves lol
Colton 03.12.22	no I mean fights where you fight 2 at once
BaselineOOO 03.12.22	Gyro, what's your current verdict? You were defending this game, but now I see that you're criticizing it left and right. I'll stay by my initial impression, it's a masterpiece, but far from a From masterpiece. It has no soul. I can't vibe with it.
trilo 03.12.22	yah the boss rehashing is my biggest critique. i've also noticed fromsoft has increasingly made more and more enemies over the years with movesets that make no sense. e.g. knights who have normal movesets and then outta nowhere they can breathe fire, gap close at super sonic speed with some air-channeling whirlwind shit or some random 10-part combo. i guess there's only so many interesting ways a Big Armored Dude can be engaging but they feel cheap rather than something i could expect.
Gyromania 03.12.22	i criticize some aspects of it. i think the north felt rushed. it's still cool but idk,i wanted an actual lived-in area like the earlier stuff. malenia needs rebalancing, the reused bosses are fucking brutal and really wore me down after a while. you just completely lose that excitement of finding new mini bosses in dungeons because everything is a reskin. i found another version of astel last night and my reaction was basically "fucking really? you reused this boss too?" but all that said, game is a 10/10 without a doubt. joins the top 3 fromsoft games alongside sekiro and bloodborne and i think it's a masterpiece. i appreciate the effect it will (hopefully) have on the industry and open world games in particular which have grown rote and trite as fuck in the last decade or so. games like this and breath of the wild should send a very clear and pointed message that gamers like player freedom and a real sense of adventure not weighed down by dumb-as-rocks UI and UX reliant on handholding and meager rewards/banal sidequests.
Colton 03.12.22	BOTW and this game have tapped into the one aspect of an open world that keeps it consistently interesting and makes you actually want to explore and that's mystery
Trebor. 03.12.22	It's very weird to me that they made somber smithing stones 8 and 9 much easier to get and much earlier than 7.
Gyromania 03.12.22	i think it depends where you go, trebor
Colton 03.12.22	btw gyro all I do in this game is explore lol I’m 55 hours in and haven’t even fought Rawdog yet
MyColdShoulder 03.12.22	I really wish they didn't go open world honestly. So much pointless shit and it feels like a chore to get to the next area. Dungeons are just copy and pasted all over the place, with the same enemies and bosses you fought already five times. I really hope they go back to the smaller, interconnected world in future titles. But I doubt it considering how much money this game made
Gyromania 03.12.22	never felt like a chore to me, sounds like you just don't like open world games. i don't particularly care for them either, but when they're done right like this, hell yes i'm there for it. and as far as every single open world game that has dungeons in it, these are the most varied by far. same aesthetics for crypts, mines, and caves, but the layouts for this vary quite a lot tbh
Gyromania 03.12.22	colton yeah you should be like like 70+ when you fight radahn
trilo 03.12.22	i generally dislike open world games but i think it was done pretty well here. just needs some refinement. like take some extra time to make all the side content interesting and unique instead of cave with prev boss x2/prev boss + adds
Colton 03.12.22	some of the caves/dungeons are pretty cool. like the one with that platform that raises you into a spiked ceiling where you have to run underneath the platform to get to the boss. or the one where you can’t hit the boss cause he’s shadowed or whatever so you have to lure him back to the light to make him hittable
MyColdShoulder 03.12.22	I really did like exploring limgrave and liurnia though, really thought those areas were well done. Also Malekith has got to be one of the most visually stunning bosses in gaming, and his animations are so sick
protokute 03.12.22	so wtf is the deal with that knight right after aqueduct facing cliffs site of grace in nokron? dude is just a tanky powerful mf, no matter what you the guy just absolutely destroy you, blocking doesn't work, parrying doesn't work, jump attacks doesn't work, being aggresive doesn't work, one swing and you're dead, and I'm doing minimal damage with my bloodhound fang +6
protokute 03.12.22	it's the lesser crucible knight i guess
trilo 03.12.22	yah its crucible knight. if you're dying in one hit you need to lvl your vigor. i found being aggressive against crucible knight to never work for me. gotta be patient and wait for your openings. 2nd phase i basically circle strafe around him until he does a combo that finishes with the tail swipe cuz that's always the final part of his combos
protokute 03.12.22	holy shit, i just made him kill himself by flying right off place lol
protokute 03.12.22	oh no, the real crucible knight i had killed already, and was a big pain in the ass too
trilo 03.12.22	ooo the spear trident variant or whatever. yeah i did the same lmfao
Colton 03.12.22	crucible knight is one of the most fair and fun bosses imo. you can easily dodge all his attacks once you get to know him
Colton 03.12.22	also what’s the deal with those stone creatures that have the bell attached to them that they ripped straight out of breath of the wild can I fight them
Avagantamos 03.12.22	if you knock the skull things off of them they will drop down and open up. you can duplicate a boss remembrance inside them
zaruyache 03.12.22	you gotta clean the moss off their feets and then they well let you climb on top 🤭🤭😜
Colton 03.12.22	it's just funny to me when people say they use summons in this game. I remember when I was using training wheels in third grade. oh it's a difficult game? ok well maybe something like Viva Pinata would better suit you, or maybe Animal Crossing which is literally just a pacifier for millenials. "summoning is a core mechanic of the game" just as much as bumpers are in a bowling alley. it's just a tool to coddle the feeble minded casuals such as yourself. no that makes sense, the Tarnished strolling up to the Erdtree in a clown car with all of his babysitters clearing out the castle for him. that's a true Elden Lord
protokute 03.12.22	wow!!!
protokute 03.12.22	after one hour, struggling, finally killed the gargoyles
Gyromania 03.12.22	can't wait to see you come back to this thread and rage hard when you get destroyed in the endgame lol
protokute 03.12.22	me? i'll probably will
zaruyache 03.12.22	the fullmoon lady is kinda dumb, now i get why people were complaining lol.
Colton 03.13.22	it's just annoying how you have to get through the first phase every time to get to the actual hard part
Gyromania 03.13.22	Nah I was talking to Cotton
Colton 03.13.22	imagine if Muhammad Ali was fighting Joe Frazier and he had 3 of his friends jump into the ring and help him win and then celebrated after as if he did something
loveisamixtape 03.13.22	i’m so far behind y’all i’m afraid to read this thread lol. level 23 / confessor starter / haven’t even beat margit bc exploring too much. he’s whooped my ass like 4 times though so i have just gotten a claymore
Colton 03.13.22	honestly the thread won't spoil much except for the names of future bosses
Colton 03.13.22	level 23 is somewhat low for Margit but it's doable if you really try
Slex 03.13.22	I finally beat Margit at I think lvl 25 and that's when things started clicking for me
JohnnyoftheWell 03.13.22	lol level 23 is more than enough for margit "wait, you missed placidusax" oh shit yeah, oops! worked out where to go, but then got stuck on maliketh and forgot to loop back when i finished
Colton 03.13.22	stfu you probably used summons on draconic tree sentinel
JohnnyoftheWell 03.13.22	i summoned my horse. absolutely summoned for a number of later fights bc i just wanted to progress and master the mechs on a second play, but draconic tree sentinel was barely a speedbump ngl
loveisamixtape 03.13.22	i have no concept of magic in this game yet either but it seems to be insane, i’m just working on a melee build. possibly counterintuitive haven’t played a fromsoft game in like 2 years and it was bloodborne. a bit different. i just ride my little horse through and have been trying to get my vigor to 20 before diving into bosses since confessors start so low
Colton 03.13.22	you should go do the weeping peninsula, it's good for your level
Colton 03.13.22	johnny you're a coward
JohnnyoftheWell 03.13.22	lol just you wait until you meet him a second time and you no summons and no horse
Avagantamos 03.13.22	my only solution to malenia's blade flurry is to just tank it with a spirit summon. even then it's a coin toss whether I take the aggro or the mimic tear
Slex 03.13.22	Draconic Tree Sentinel is a stupid bitch, fuck that fight hard. The arena is horseshit and he is obnoxiously easy except you can't fucking dodge his lightning attacks. FUCK Draconic Tree Sentinel
ReefaJones 03.13.22	You can dodge every attack from that guy. His lightning strike is hard to dodge because it's a pretty tight window you have but by the end I could do it pretty consistently.
Slex 03.13.22	Yeah his attacks are like mind numbingly easy to dodge but his lightning was constantly killing me lol
Anthracks 03.13.22	Please tell me how the bell bearing bitch in dragonbarrow is giving me more trouble than any boss in this game
Slex 03.13.22	Idk I've been there for like 5 seconds because shit was one shotting me lol
rufinthefury 03.13.22	Fuck Astel. Fuck Astel so much. I fucking HATE this stupid fucking boss in this dipshit little mine, go fuck yourself. "Stars of Darkness" more like Stupid Bitch of Cowardice who wont engage so I CANT HIT EM EVER
beefshoes 03.13.22	Fire Giant is probably my favorite boss since Ludwig. It's such an awesome spectacle, and that second phase is absolutely nuts.
Colton 03.13.22	Margott is a bitch
rufinthefury 03.13.22	yeah I killed Margott in one try on the rematch in the capitol, dude is trash
Gyromania 03.13.22	Looool Astel is like a 5/10 on the difficulty scale
Gyromania 03.13.22	"oh shit yeah, oops! worked out where to go, but then got stuck on maliketh and forgot to loop back when i finished" You can still go back and fight him. Don't miss out! He's their best dragon fight to date imo
JohnnyoftheWell 03.13.22	I'm gonna, *but* have finally arrived at Malenia. Fuck me, what a fight - even with this Unlimited Blade Works bullshit (which I've maybe worked out a semireliable pattern for), this is easily one of my fav bosses in the game. Love how they balanced her low health points with a regen mechanic, also love how that works even if she hits your shield to incentivise dodging. Shit goes hard. Haligtree was also a fromsoft alltimer, my fav area in the game along with the capital
Gyromania 03.13.22	yeah man same here, haligtree and capitol easily the best dungeons in the game (farum, stormveil, volcano manor, and raya lucaria are still superb tho imo). malenia is maybe the best boss they've ever ruined imo lol. her sword spin needs tweaking, it's just straight broken. there doesn't appear to be a way to consistently dodge it. i can mitigate damage, but it depends. if you're right next to her when she uses it, you're either dead or taking like 80% damage, which is enough to end the attempt because she'll regen a pretty substantial chunk of hp and you need all the health you can get for phase 2
JohnnyoftheWell 03.13.22	from what I've seen, her pattern always goes: blitz #1: where she floats blitz #2: zooms towards you blitz #3: zooms WAY towards you and ends up a little behind so the first two are just about dodgable with a bit of luck if you back off, and then for the third one you need to dodge either to the side or ahead to where the second one was (still testing this). problem is that the windup for the first one is TIGHT, so if you're not already backing away, you end up in the 80% dire straits you mentioned. honestly, i'd rather a longer wind-up for the first one than nerfed damage - the stakes for that move are crazy high, feels appropriate for a fight with a lore+brand ambassador that major
Gyromania 03.13.22	i fought her for 2 hours and i experimented with a lot of stuff, including what you're saying regarding the final flurry, and it honestly just straight up seems like you don't have enough iframes to reliably deal with all of it. i think you can time it so you mitidate damage, but damage seems innevitable which imo is kind of bad design. i agree the move is sick and fitting for her character, i just hope they tweak that one thing (even if it's just as simple as reducing the damage) because other than that the fight is perfection and easily one of the best they've ever made
Colton 03.13.22	nah Morgott was hard af
mynameischan 03.13.22	Just got the platinum. Amazing game.
Slex 03.13.22	Welcome back lol, how many hours did it take?
Gyromania 03.13.22	Eyy there he is. Glad you were as into it. Also holy shit, plat already? Did you back up your save to get all endings?
Avagantamos 03.13.22	is it known how many endings there are? on my first playthrough I pretty much just accepted any npc quest that came my way, not sure if any of them interfered with one another
mynameischan 03.13.22	I didn’t do any save scumming. The first play through was about 105 hours but the next two for trophy endings were like 6 hours each. It’s amazing how much of the game is completely optional. So far I’ve just gotten the 3 trophy endings but as far as I can tell there are at least 2 more I haven’t gotten.
BaselineOOO 03.13.22	I made my first Elden Ring mod! Cuuute! Pls download and endorse www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/157
Gyromania 03.13.22	6 hours? damn. didn't think it could be completed so fast. my first playthrough was around 140 hours but i left the game on in the background a lot so i'm not sure what my actual time is. favourite bosses/dungeons?
Gyromania 03.13.22	avagantamos:they've found 6 so far but it's believed there may be a couple more, from what i heard. i got the age of stars for my first ending
mynameischan 03.13.22	That was my first ending too and probably my favorite of the three I’ve seen because I’m a Ranni simp. Frenzied Flame is a great one too though. The regular ending is pretty plain and very reminiscent of ds2s throne ending. The world record so far is like 36 minutes so yeah it can be beaten insanely fast. For my last play through to get the normal ending, I went Godrick > Rennala > Morgott > Maliketh > end. It’s insanely fast especially with high level stats and gear.
mynameischan 03.13.22	Now that I think about it my last play through was probably closer to 3 or 4 hours. Frenzied Flame was my second and you have to do a lot more quest stuff for that one
Gyromania 03.13.22	i actually accidentally met all the criteria for frenzied flame without realizing and then undid it at farum azula to get the age of stars ending. great ending too, yeah - i'm very excited for the lore videos to flesh all this out better. i saw the speedrun, but it uses major exploits so i wasn't sure how long a normal run would take.
necropig 03.13.22	just got the platinum. 107 hours, level 232, good game.
Gyromania 03.13.22	232 at 107 hours? wtf how... you must have farmed extremely hard lol
necropig 03.13.22	on ng+ i had the rune scarab on the entire time. Didn't do any farming actually :3 but i started ng+ at 165 I think.
Gyromania 03.13.22	oops shit i thought you said you just beat the game lol. i'm tired
necropig 03.13.22	haha big tired indeed
Gyromania 03.13.22	still tho at that time it seems like you must have skipped some content and still got a very high level. props. i'm slow af going through games lmao
necropig 03.13.22	I unlocked all the world and pretty sure did every mini dungeon on the first playthrough. just bruised through on ng+ for stuff I missed like fia's quest, didn't know that was a thing.
mynameischan 03.13.22	The rune reward on new game plus are insane. Literally 1.2 million runes for the final boss with the scarab talisman
Avagantamos 03.13.22	damn I'm at 150 hours on my first playthrough and still haven't beaten malenia, or even been to crumbling farum azula yet. i'm a pretty slow gamer though, and I also left it on while making food, etc. a lot
Slex 03.13.22	I'm 52 hours in and feel like I'm probably like 52% done lol
Colton 03.14.22	interested to see what the speedrunning community can do with this game. I bet it would be fun to watch
Avagantamos 03.14.22	I wonder how long the all bosses runs are gonna be
Gyromania 03.14.22	I think speed running is going to look boring af because more than half the game will just be riding on torrent
trilo 03.14.22	any% is actually down to 30 min and the most torrent you see is just at the start when you ride straight to raya. some cool skips in that one. all remembrances is a bit more boring (the first 20 min is riding torrent collecting materials) but once it gets going its kind of a boss gauntlet. all that said souls game speedruns tend to involve mostly cheesing bosses with OP weps and praying for boss moveset RNG lol. not the most entertaining of speedruns
necropig 03.14.22	Distortion2 did it in 29 minutes. Nuts
beefshoes 03.14.22	I am almost 70 hours in, and I feel like I've tackled a considerable chunk of the content through Fire Giant. Kinda burnt out on the smaller dungeons at this point however, and will probably only seek out the ones relevant to my build for this first run. PvP has been insanely fun so far.
mynameischan 03.14.22	PVP is gonna be my focus now. I just respecced to make a frenzy build with dual Vykes spears and all the frenzy incantations
Gyromania 03.14.22	PvP is in a kind of bad state rn because some builds are just broken but I'm very excited to dive into it too. What's everyone's favourite bosses? I think for me: dragonlord placidusax, malekith, first elden lord, lord of blood, rykard, and morgott.
beefshoes 03.14.22	All of the main bosses have been phenomenal. Probably Mohg overall, because it hits the perfect balance between difficulty and spectacle. It's tough competition though.
Gyromania 03.14.22	yeah i'm rly curious about the lore surrounding him too
Aberf 03.14.22	purchased Elden ring right when it came out. It turned out that my i7-10750h + RTX 2060 laptop can't run it. I've been sad 😢
mynameischan 03.14.22	I have seen some gifs of the broken pvp builds but those people are even more fun to beat so we will see. I really love the elden beast. It’s such a beautiful design. And Rykard even though it’s pretty easy. Overall I think this game is their best designed from top to bottom
Gyromania 03.14.22	i think the satisfaction from the mechanics in fights like sword saint and owl father are still top From, but overall i would agree that this is their best game to date. and yeah elden beast is beautiful and i enjoy its moveset, but grinding through radagon to get to it was maybe the most frustration i encountered in this game. idk what it is but omfg i am bad at that fight.
trilo 03.14.22	bosses for me in no order (spoilers obv) favs: Rykard, Astel, Elden Beast, Placidusax, Godfrey/Hoarah Loux, Ancestor Spirit least: Godskin Duo, Godskin Duo, Godskin Duo. ok but really them plus Radahn, Malenia, Fire Giant. maaaybe Maliketh but i gotta fight him with a faster wep first
Gyromania 03.14.22	yeah my dragon halberd was not doing well against the endgame bosses lol. i need some lighter armour and a faster weapon for ng+. glad to see others loving placidusax, it might be my favourite fromsoft dragon. ancestor spirit was beautiful but just way too easy, wish they'd tune it just a bit. astel is also a highlight but i feel like it's also a bit too easy after beating it twice
trilo 03.14.22	re: Astel i hate that you do this long, winding side quest with him being the big-bad at the end and then they just rehash him later in some side area. super underwhelming. idk if i really see myself doing it again unless i want a specific item found in those areas because i can just fight him later lol
Gyromania 03.14.22	yeah i was kind of annoyed when i saw him again in the consecrated snowfield. i thought he was a wholly unique boss but NOPE, let's reskin him too :'( it's weird too because the one in the snowfield is potentially even cooler since it has that creepy af clone grab move
Devastator 03.14.22	Anyone else think Placidusax is inspired by King Ghidorah? Specifically the 2019 version?
mynameischan 03.14.22	If no one knows this yet, hoarfrost stomp is the most OP ash of war ever and tears through every boss in the game
protokute 03.14.22	just came by Windmill Village on occasion while roaming around Altus Plane and... what an in interesting place, it's very simple, you don't go indoors, and apart from the windmills themselves, the flowers, the zombie dancers, and the boss at the end there isn't much else for it, but there's a unique vibe that I haven't felt in the game before like a folk horror pagan thing, and I really wish the developers had delved a bit more in these curious and particular places rather than the caves and dungeons that seems to get a bit familiar after the third or fourth one you visit.
mynameischan 03.14.22	It’s Midsommar village
ReefaJones 03.15.22	Placidusax was kind of a meme fight though. Nice to look at but not much of a challenge.
Gyromania 03.15.22	Lol he's not a meme, he's just not batshit insane difficulty. His moveset is wicked cool tho. And yeah I get Ghidorah vibes from him too (also I think it used to have 4 or 5 heads if you look close). Haha the midsommar village was awesome. Shame about it being capped off with a reskinned boss but still I loved that area
Anthracks 03.15.22	Lord of blood mohg… that form change is the most broken shit I’ve ever seen. There’s gotta be a way to get through unscathed? Drains three heals and heals him. The actual fuck?
mynameischan 03.15.22	There is a tear for your physick that nullifies the effect that move has on you
Anthracks 03.15.22	Yeah I noticed that
rufinthefury 03.15.22	bro Mohg is insane as fuck. I got the physick cure for his heal bs you cant dodge and it still aint enough
Mort. 03.15.22	so how hard is late game and what would people define as such? basically im like level 70 and have more or less done everything ive found to do in limgrave, the weeping peninsula, caelid and liurnia before heading further north. bosses have been really quite easy with a couple of exceptions. feeling a bit dissapointed and hoping theres a difficulty spike tbh
SpiritCrusher2 03.15.22	I've been doing the questline in Volcano Manor and got the Red Letter which leads me far to the north, which I haven't explored yet. is it worth finishing the quest before killing Rykard, or should I just kill him now? I don't want to save him for later and end up overleveled for his fight
mynameischan 03.15.22	Every questline in the manor will end if you kill Rykard so you should do it now
JohnnyoftheWell 03.15.22	"so how hard is late game and what would people define as such" everything after the Capital, which is itself a big difficulty spike. hold onto your shorts, kiddo finally finished killing approximately: everything and started the next game cycle. think i'm gonna timeout for a while and gather my thoughts, but what a wild ride
Gyromania 03.15.22	did you like placidusax
JohnnyoftheWell 03.15.22	yes lol, wild fight - and one of the hardest! kalameet is still my fav fromsoft dragon, but placidusax wrecks midir and sinh and can have the #2 slot really did not like radagon, but otherwise the endgame run was cool as
Gyromania 03.15.22	the capital was a noticeable spike in difficulty, but the sewers were somehow 10x harder, imo at least. and then yeah, everything after that just keeps kicking you in the dick, but i feel like the haligtree was just the perfect difficulty until malenia
Gyromania 03.15.22	kalameet is a respectable #1, his tk grab move is still fucking cool all these years later. and yay! i didn't like radagon either, bs fight
twlight 03.15.22	Game sucks. Thread sucks. Get fucked
Gyromania 03.15.22	NO U FK U
twlight 03.15.22	I'm just trolling bruh. I'm stuck on isshin sowrd saint in Sekiro right now and PISSED
Gyromania 03.15.22	i know lol. sword saint is pure perfection. i remember being mad af at first but once you master the fight there's nothing quite like it
twlight 03.15.22	Dude it's so epic. The music, the scenery. Amazing. But damn. Four phase fight? Just insane lol
Gyromania 03.15.22	yeah but the first phase doesn't really count lol
twlight 03.15.22	Yeah true. I still haven't made it past phase one of sword saint. I'm determined to beat the game before I buy elden ring
Mort. 03.15.22	that first phase killed me once or twice tbh.
Gyromania 03.15.22	sword saint's second phase is the hardest for sure, but it's so badass edit: 1400 comments, damn
Slex 03.16.22	Just beat Morgott get dumpstered dead ass bitch Loved his character tho lol
protokute 03.16.22	I'm pretty curious to see how's the difficulty spike after Leyndell, because since I got my Bloodhound's Fang to +6, apart from very particular areas, the game has been pretty much a walk in the park while spamming jump attacks and breaking enemy postures.
Gyromania 03.16.22	Everyone who's worried about the game being too easy after Leyndell: chill. You are going to get fucked, don't worry. And it doesn't matter what level you are
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.16.22	The difficulty spike in the frosty snow land is actually ridiculous. I felt OP before I came here. Just beat the fire giant. Great fight. There is a lot to love about this game but I’ve found bosses to be a bit lacking. Some really really bad ones, a lot of okay but not very memorable ones, too many reskins, and just a couple really memorable ones. Rykard and Fire Giant are two favs so far. Radahn was a squandered opportunity for one of the best fromsoft fights ever and moonbitch was great in the atmosphere department but ruined by a gimmick first phase.
Gyromania 03.16.22	Radahn is fucking awesome. Fire giant, meh. Maybe I'll like it more on ng+. Rennala was great too and phase one was fine, it wasn't a bother tbh, cool aesthetics. Rykard was fucking awesome, some incredible endgame bosses too. I think they killed it in the boss dept but the reskins blow. They won't be an issue on ng+ tho
MyColdShoulder 03.16.22	I agree with the overall boss design, probably my least favorite from software has done along with DS2. Them re-using bosses over and over gets pretty tiring too
Colton 03.16.22	my favourite boss so far is definitely Crucible Knight
Gyromania 03.16.22	How anyone can think these bosses aren't better than DS1 bosses is beyond me
Slex 03.16.22	Morgott, Fallingstar Beast and Rennala are 3 of my fave boss fights ever honestly lol
SpiritCrusher2 03.16.22	just beat Godfrey and Morgott first try. not sure if they're easy or if my character is too strong or I just got gud. I'm level 95 and using Radahn's sword(s) +9
zaruyache 03.16.22	i killed another tree mini boss, and then died to the Godskin Apostle a dozen more times weweewwww
Slex 03.16.22	Love how Fire Giants fireballs are nowhere near you 98% of the time and then just because he will fucking one shot you out of the blue. Cool!!!!%÷^×&×828÷&;#9@9×,×
beefshoes 03.16.22	Fire Giant's second phase can definitely be annoying. Honestly the more I think about it, Radahn is probably my top boss. I've been having a blast helping random people fight him over the last couple of days, and it feels insanely rewarding going from being stuck on him for days a couple of weeks ago to taking care of him consistently within a few minutes. Definitely one of the more unique bosses From has done too. The general quality in Elden Ring is fucking great, with the only blight on the lineup being how frequent reskins are.
Colton 03.16.22	the whole time I was doing Leyndell I thought the boss at the end was Radahn. where tf is Radahn
rufinthefury 03.16.22	Killed Mohg. Killed a boss in Haligtree. Am tired. I feel like I'm close to the end.
rufinthefury 03.16.22	@Colton explore Southern Caelid
Scheumke 03.16.22	I just finally finished Radahn last night after being stuck on him for about 4 hours. As a fromsoft veteran, never have I ever been so frustrated with a boss as Radahn. I think I might have the absolute worst built with which to take him on (bit of a hybrid build with mostly str and a greatsword) because I had time for only a wee bit of dmg between combo's, meaning all my friends where dead half the time before getting him close to phase 2. Died on him 4 times with less then 5% hp remaining. Finally just respecced to a full strenght build and then I got him in half an hour or so. Boy am I glad that he is over, more relieved than elated really.
BaselineOOO 03.16.22	Radahn is such a shit fight, agreed. Wasted potential. What's worse is that ER has literally no fight as good as the best 10 bosses of Dark Souls III and Bloodborne. They're balanced around summons I guess, boring af.
WatchItExplode 03.16.22	I stun locked two of the last three bosses I fought without them getting a swing off. Just to test if they would actually let you get away with it. Lame.
mynameischan 03.16.22	I’ve seen a lot of complaints about fire giant but I really like that fight. Great spectacle
Slex 03.16.22	He's really great, his fireball attack is just hella inconsistent. I only tried him twice and got very close both times, I'll dumpster his ass today
BaselineOOO 03.16.22	Astel is a sweetheart of a boss too, do not forget!
Slex 03.16.22	Haven't fought Astel yet but very much looking forward to it
Colton 03.16.22	ngl this snow area kinda sucks so far, feels empty
mynameischan 03.16.22	Also, using Inescapable Frenzy on these death blight asshole invaders is so satisfying
Demon of the Fall 03.16.22	have you guys finished this yet? on a scale of 1-10 how badly did it fuck up your lives?
Gyromania 03.16.22	Baseline that's such an awful take. Mohg lord of blood, morgott, rykard, godfrey/hoarah loux, radahn, placidusax, elden beast, astel, malekith, godrick - all superb boss fights. I feel like people are getting dumpster fired to a lot of bosses and then saying "bosses suck in this game"
Slex 03.16.22	Agree Colton, sounds like u n me are around the same part rn
BaselineOOO 03.16.22	Gyromania, do you really think I'm getting dumpster fired by these bosses when I literally defended Malenia a couple of posts back, that she doesn't need any nerf? You know that, don't be dishonest. I only had trouble with one boss so far, Radahn, maybe because I refused to use summons and I went all melee on him (felt appropriate). I hate this game's bosses because almost all of them are not fun to fight against, in my opinion, it's that simple. Just read this page, it's hilarious but also constructive: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Bosses ; ER bosses are controversial for a reason.
Colton 03.16.22	just beat black blade kindred he was fun
BaselineOOO 03.16.22	Anyone else LOVES fighting those Ulcerated Tree Spirits btw? They're fun af, especially the one with scarlet rot! What a fight.
Slex 03.16.22	Ye I've beat 2 different Black Blade Kindred bosses they were both really fun especially the one with the spear
ReefaJones 03.16.22	Why is no one mentioning Naturalborn of the Void. probably my favorite boss fight in ER
Slex 03.16.22	That's Astel isn't it? I've seen some people list him as a fave
ReefaJones 03.16.22	Fuck these things btw: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Elden-Ring/royal_revenant_bosses_elden_ring_wiki_guide.jpg Whoever designed those needs to get slapped
Gyromania 03.16.22	I really don't think summons are a necessity. I think people are forgetting how fucking hard most souls bosses are on the first game cycle. play them on ng+ and see how you feel, because mechanically idk what's not to love: wide array of attacks, multi phase, great aesthetics. To each their own, I just think people are maybe having a kneejerk reaction here
Gyromania 03.16.22	And yeah reefa natural-born IS Astel and he's indeed great
Scheumke 03.16.22	So far Radahn is the only one I have a gripe with and even he has redeeming qualities for me. Rest of the bosses I've done so far range from good to great. Have a lot to go though, everything from Nekron/Altus plateau onwards is still ahead of me but did clear Caelid today.
mynameischan 03.16.22	The duo or trio bosses definitely seem a little unfair to fight solo but this game has the widest array of tools they’ve ever provided and I think they wanted to put a few fights in there where you’d need to use some of them. Those annoyed at how “easy” it is can always nerf themselves. It’s very hard to balance enemies in a game with so much build variety. But that variety also means you can create challenges for yourself if you want it
MyColdShoulder 03.16.22	I have played every from software title and never thought I needed a summon in order to succeed on my first playthrough. But the difficulty isn't the issue, it's simply that the bosses aren't fun to learn. I used summons just do get this shit over with
mynameischan 03.16.22	Well you’re better than me because I’ve definitely had to use summons on a first playthrough lol
mynameischan 03.16.22	Absolutely every invader I fight has dual moonveil katanas lol. So boring
Gyromania 03.16.22	that's the thing i strongly dislike about pvp in all their games, and i don't blame from for it, people just have a tendency to pick op/lame shit. there's a meta for every game and it gets exhausting to play against
BarbiePop 03.16.22	I'm on NG+2 and it's finally starting to get boring, sadly. I'm leveling up my torch and destroying bosses lol. 196 hours played, easily the best game I've ever played and 10000% game of the year. I'm so glad I stuck with the Samurai, at the beginning it was a struggle until I found Rivers of Blood. The hardest boss fight for me was Malenia, but I didn't have my weapons leveled up fully when I went in there. Got my Mimic Tear to +10 and Rivers of Blood +10, Serpentbone Blade +25 and beat her in 2 minutes.
BarbiePop 03.16.22	I take that back, the Fire Giant made me cry.
mynameischan 03.16.22	Knocking that leg bone off the fire giant is always very satisfying
BarbiePop 03.16.22	I had to cheese him lol, even then it was difficult. Then the next day I was helping my bf all day, decided to invade and when I loaded in it dashboarded me. I loaded it back up and I was back at the Fire Giant GRACE! 12+ hours lost. I cried. But thankfully I beat him the first try and went straight to Haligtree in search for that Hand of Malenia Katana. It's not bad, it's certainly not ideal for PvP, I prefer Rivers of Blood. It is so good.
BarbiePop 03.16.22	It's my favorite weapon in the game.
zaruyache 03.17.22	lmao they nerfed hoarfrost right after i figured out how to use it to cheese that asshole Godskin Apostle once and for all. blessed be the cheese.
BaselineOOO 03.17.22	New patch nerfs that broken Hoarfrost Stomp WHYYYY NOOO!!!!
Avagantamos 03.17.22	I was so close to beating malenia with a mimic tear and they nerfed that too
BaselineOOO 03.17.22	@ReefaJones: fuck those things omfg!
Avagantamos 03.17.22	when I dropped to the bottom of elphael and those started swarming me I had a panic attack fr. ended up losing like 170k runes
rufinthefury 03.17.22	I think it was Colton who said to go find that Dragonlord boss in the bottom of Crumbling Farum Azula and yeah fuck yeah that was exhilarating. New favorite boss, new favorite dragon.
Gyromania 03.17.22	That was me! And yay, same here
necropig 03.17.22	elden nerf. Now be good boys and girls From and fix the framerate on ps5
mynameischan 03.17.22	Glad I got the platinum before the nerfs but overall I think those changes make sense. It was silly to be shredding bosses in 30 seconds on ng+3 with mimic and stomp
DungeonBoy 03.17.22	I have this game, and it is fun
Gyromania 03.17.22	The nerfs were necessary but they should have nerfed malenia too
mynameischan 03.17.22	Yeah Malenia is really the only boss that I’m not sure I could beat on my own no matter what
ReefaJones 03.17.22	I think being a spell caster might work best against Malenia not sure though. I'd imagine the ability to always keep distance to her would be a huge advantage over almost every other build. At least that way you have a better chance to survive her omega combo
BaselineOOO 03.17.22	Wait you can roll?? I love how I'm still discovering new things in this game after 7432 hours and 27½ minutes
DocSportello 03.17.22	I’ve put over 100 serious hours into this game and still feel like I’m not particularly close to the end. Sekiro certainly remains from’s greatest application of combat mechanics, and the return to Dark Souls’ core gameplay works most but not all of the time. Some really bullshit bosses, particularly any boss that’s like 2 mini bosses at once. Tiring, really. Especially since the game itself is so long. Otherwise it’s prob (tentatively) my favorite Soulslike to date
DocSportello 03.17.22	Double post: I don’t know, I actually might be pretty close to the end? I’ve beaten Morgott and Rykard (gimmicky yeah but one of the most memorable and fun fights so far) and am at Castle Sol
Colton 03.17.22	every boss in the snow area is so hard. Fire Giant and that one where you fight Godskin Apostle and then he summons his fat friend after… so annoying
beefshoes 03.17.22	Tornado dragon land is fucking me hard. Godskin Duo is insane solo
mynameischan 03.17.22	Godskin Duo is cancer personified
Gyromania 03.17.22	Lmao yeah that boss is hot garbage
Colton 03.17.22	I can't even beat the fight where you have to fight the Apostle and then the Noble right after, having to fight both at once sounds fucking horrible
Colton 03.17.22	if you go on r/eldenring and type "godskin duo" there's dozens of posts about how people are considering uninstalling the game because of it lmao
Gyromania 03.17.22	i cheesed it with mimic and froststomp so i feel like on ng+ i'm going to lose my mind when i get back there
ReefaJones 03.17.22	tbh I had much more trouble with the two gargoyles. The Godskin duo wasn't that difficult because you can rather easily keep space. the Noble is much faster than the apostle so first kill that one while the Apostle stays behind then rinse and repeat
mynameischan 03.17.22	Yeah the two gargoyles are tough as well. I was not leveled high enough when I first took them on and got super frustrated
DocSportello 03.17.22	Yeah the Godskin fights are really tedious. I’m hardcore soloing this run, and the Godskins are *doable* but they always feel hollow when they’re over. I don’t feel accomplished. Or even relief. Just ambient frustration
DocSportello 03.17.22	I hope they nerf even more. I’m at Lv 105 and have 40 vigor and these late game bosses are absurd. I can take one hit, maybe two, before I’m in deep trouble, and the combos on these fuckers are sometimes unreal
beefshoes 03.17.22	"Godskin Duo is cancer personified" Agreed. I liked the Godskin bosses on their own, but fighting them together sharing the same health pool with resurrections is the only moment in the playthrough so far where the difficulty has felt cheap. Summoning for it tonight in hopes that it makes it more manageable. Absolutely love the area otherwise. Btw there should be a multiplayer group password like the one that Vaati did.
BarbiePop 03.17.22	Holy crap my Rivers of Blood is insane now! It actually scales with Dex. I just helped someone with Malenia and it was like a 1 minute fight lolol
ReefaJones 03.18.22	After I helped some players beat Malenia I can now reliably dodge her combo but that's only if there's some amount of distance between me and her once she starts it. If you are standing close to her when she begins the combo then it's instant death. I guess people like Baseline will still defend that shitty boss design though
BaselineOOO 03.18.22	Malenia is one of the few exceptional bosses in the game, yea. She resembles Slave Knight Gael and Darkeater Midir fights in the condensed and arrogant way it makes you use your reptile brain instead of your ever so tired intuitive Soulsborne memory. For a moment the challenge becomes more than a video game. All animations, wind ups and combos are remarkable and a class above the rest of the bosses. Every other main boss is weak as hell, "demigods" my butt.
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Oh please never mention Midir....bad experiences with that Dragon. That was and still is the hardest thing I've ever fought in any soulsborne game. Hands down.
BarbiePop 03.18.22	I love how people are complaining the bosses are hard on Elden Ring, tbch I think it's the easiest Souls game yet. Bloodborne gave me anxiety, like every time I played it I thought about going into rehab. Now, I'm not saying Elden Ring is bad because of how easy it is, but it's more engaging and relaxing at times I would say. I don't feel pressured like I did on DS1 or Bloodborne. DS3 wasn't bad either.
Gyromania 03.18.22	lol i'll sound like a dick for saying this but i thought midir was pretty easy once you know his moves. i've never struggled too much with their dragon bosses, except ancient dragon, that thing is fucking stupid. i think malenia absolutely has one of the coolest movesets in the game and her cutscenes are great, i just found it hard to enjoy her due to that move. i like to be able to stay in close and do a bunch of dodging and attacking, but if you're ever in too close when she does the flurry attack, you're just dead
Gyromania 03.18.22	ER is much harder than BB for me, maybe that's just because of how familiar i am with BB, but some of the endgame bosses in ER are frustrating to say the least
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Which ones?
BaselineOOO 03.18.22	"but if you're ever in too close when she does the flurry attack, you're just dead" Unless you dodge forward, backward, then run 2 meters sideways. I know, difficult.
Gyromania 03.18.22	uh huh, uh huh i've heard this shit many times from people and it's inconsistent
BarbiePop 03.18.22	lol yeah shes ez now. I wish there was a challenge. You know what Myiazaki should do? Make a DLC that's like a colloseum where people can 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, etc but scale it so it's fair for everyone, it would rely on skill. Like you can pick weapons in the pre-battle screen and everyone is like level 10 or whatever, the same so there's no OP RoB just winning every time. And the weapons would be basic, not upgraded or anything. I think there should be more PvP aspect, it would be super fun!
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Gyromania, what weapons are you running currrently and your build?
Gyromania 03.18.22	"Which ones?" malenia, radagon/elden beast, godfrey/hoarah loux, black blade, mogh. i didn't get hard stuck on all of these but they require far more precision than other fromsoft bosses. even bosses like the fire giant which aren't stupidly hard, still require a lot of patience
Gyromania 03.18.22	"lol yeah shes ez now. I wish there was a challenge. You know what Myiazaki should do? Make a DLC that's like a colloseum where people can 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, etc but scale it so it's fair for everyone, it would rely on skill. Like you can pick weapons in the pre-battle screen and everyone is like level 10 or whatever, the same so there's no OP RoB just winning every time. And the weapons would be basic, not upgraded or anything. I think there should be more PvP aspect, it would be super fun!" hell fucking yes. not lvl 10 tho, battles would be over so fast lol
BaselineOOO 03.18.22	You don't even have to learn her moves, dodging her just comes naturally. And if she only hits you at the later part of her flurry combo, it's all alright, you won't die. You can even raise a shield after two dodges, but I forgot nobody uses shields nowadays and just wants to trade blows, for machoboy reasons. I don't get it, she's exactly like Gael but with slightly more damage.
Gyromania 03.18.22	for my first run i was using mostly a keen uchigatana and a dragon halberd
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Okay, so you're a Katana type build? What is your Dex at currently and Arcane?
BarbiePop 03.18.22	I'm going to give you something to go in there alone with your Mimic and destroy her, I promise.
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Gyro have you been up to the Fire Giant yet?
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Anyways, if you're there, there's a site of grace, I can't remember what it's called but it's the closest one to go fight the Fire Giant. Go to that grace and go directly West, there's a chapel there, kill that NPC and youll have the best weapon in the game. Rivers of Blood. Max it out to +10. Get your Mimic Tear to +10. Respec to high dex and arcane, ez fight.
BarbiePop 03.18.22	The bloodloss buildup is crazy, you'll stagger her consantly, you won't have to worry about dodging as much, just be extremely aggressive with her, you got this!
Gyromania 03.18.22	i'm on ng+
Gyromania 03.18.22	i switched from the katana tbh. dex is 45 tho (radagon's soreseal is on)
BarbiePop 03.18.22	Take that talisman off, please. You want to have that +3 reduce physical damage talisman, can't remember the name of it. Go to Noksella, kill the ball repeatedly, you get a larval tear 100% drop for respec. Try to get dex as high as you can. My Dex is 80, arcane is 47. That Rivers of Blood is wild, you'll love it. Bleed is good rn.
BarbiePop 03.18.22	50 50 50 45 80 8 9 47 thats my build
BarbiePop 03.18.22	That talisman is why you're getting 1 shotted. It's decent for early game hun, but if you're on NG+ definitely take that off, did you do all of the Belfry Tower dungeons? Those 4 Imbued keys?
BarbiePop 03.18.22	You get decent talismans from those keys.
Underflow 03.18.22	i cant believe miyazaki added npc markers to the game my elitism is completely RUINED
BarbiePop 03.19.22	It was a smart take tbh, he deserves the praise, I just hope the DLC is actually hard.
BarbiePop 03.19.22	Non souls talk but From Software, their hardest game for me at least is Sekiro. by 1000%.
ReefaJones 03.19.22	"Malenia is one of the few exceptional bosses in the game, yea. She resembles Slave Knight Gael and Darkeater Midir fights in the condensed and arrogant way it makes you use your reptile brain instead of your ever so tired intuitive Soulsborne memory. For a moment the challenge becomes more than a video game. All animations, wind ups and combos are remarkable and a class above the rest of the bosses. Every other main boss is weak as hell, "demigods" my butt." This is the biggest pile of horseshit I've heard in a while lmao. You say there's a windup. There sort of is but again. If you're close to her that windup doesn't matter as you can't run fast enough from her to not get caught by her first charge which means you are dead unless your build happens to have bloodhoundstep on it. It's just a cheesy, unbalanced move.
ReefaJones 03.19.22	And as far as if this is easier than other games of theirs: Everytime a new souls game comes there are weebs who played all of their games who claim it's the easiest. Malenia, Radagon/Elden Beast, Radahn or Mohg are just as difficult as the hardest bosses of their other games.
rufinthefury 03.19.22	I feel like I've done everything I possibly can except kill Melania and then the final bosses. But Melania is a fucking wall if I've ever met one holy shit. Phase 1 aint too bad if I use my Mimic tear and take her to Stunlock City, but my god Phase 2. Fuck man.
BaselineOOO 03.19.22	"You say there's a windup. There sort of is but again. If you're close to her that windup doesn't matter as you can't run fast enough from her to not get caught by her first charge which means you are dead unless your build happens to have bloodhoundstep on it. It's just a cheesy, unbalanced move." If you're close to her AND you haven't consumed all your stamina by spamming attacks like a troglodyte, you need to DODGE not to RUN from her first charge... Jesus Christ, no wonder you got hard stuck on that fight lol. The flurry attack is cheesy and unbalanced but in a complimentary way, which makes the game distinctively Japanese. Want bosses that hold your hand while beating them? You can try Western games, God of War, Horizon Forbidden West etc. Also, learn to activate your reptile brain, stop thinking like a gamer and show some nobility and strength. Last time I checked, Malenia was a demigod, and demigods do not show mercy to weaklings in real life, do they?
ReefaJones 03.19.22	Dude you can't dodge her Combo when you are close to her she just roll-catches you have you even fought her?
BaselineOOO 03.19.22	www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuacdcAOLBk Dunno, have you? Watch this guy literally dodge it with 25% stamina. Just... please, I can contain the "GIT GUD" phrase inside me for so long, don't make me use it on you (I like you), I'm warning you lol. Just admit it that move is FAIR and that it is YOU who is panicking and stop being mean to me (literally innocent Baseline).
BarbiePop 03.19.22	@ReefaJones You can dodge that, there's a small window but if you time it right you will not get hit once.
Slex 03.19.22	Holy shit Barbie yr the best, stuck on Fire Giant but ima go get that weapon instead lol
ReefaJones 03.19.22	You can show me videos all you want. That shit doesn't work consistently in practice lmao
BarbiePop 03.19.22	That Fire Giant sucked, I cried. That was way harder than Malenia for me.
BarbiePop 03.19.22	I'm not a fan of Hand of Malenia in PvP either, it's not that great. By the time you get Waterfowl Dance off, they're already out of range. RoB is my go to. It's the best weapon in the game.
protokute 03.19.22	those cat status are really something huh gosh i hate those things
Gyromania 03.19.22	"Want bosses that hold your hand while beating them? You can try Western games, God of War" Someone clearly didn't find sigrun lol
Avagantamos 03.19.22	yo do those basic dragons in crumbling farum azula drop anything? I heard they drop ancient dragon smithing stones. anyway I just killed one as it also killed me and I went back and there was nothing there so I think I just got fucked out of a max upgrade material
JohnnyoftheWell 03.19.22	the one that just sits there and spams lightning at you while you sprint down your way down the long walk of impeding birdshit drops an ancient stone yeah
Gyromania 03.19.22	Also the first one you encounter on that long piece of a building dropped one for me. Others might too idk, I didn't have the patience to kill all of them
BaselineOOO 03.19.22	"Someone clearly didn't find sigrun lol" loool Gyromania sorry I didn't like that crappy game (God of War) enough to go and search for the Valkyries. Kinda got tired of fighting the same Troll boss NINE times, you know?
JohnnyoftheWell 03.19.22	https://www.frontlinejp.net/2022/03/14/elden-ring-the-age-of-stars-ending-explained/ have been nerding out over this and am a little sketch over whether the mistranslated "And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch" line is as un-unambiguous as the article implies (although its gist is defs probs more accurate idk hmmm)
Veldin 03.19.22	My friend just got Kings Field IV (FromSoftware, 2002), for $120
Gyromania 03.19.22	Baseline you don't gotta tell me, I think GoW is insanely overrated
BaselineOOO 03.19.22	dw I always considered you a friend
rufinthefury 03.19.22	God of War was always for Playstation Babies anyways
BaselineOOO 03.19.22	Playstation fans are so sad, they circlejerk around any exclusive they get, even low IQ outings like Uncharted and Ghost of Tsushima.
DocSportello 03.19.22	So is it just me or does the game kind of fall apart after Morgott? These snow areas are some absolute bullshit. Throwing multiple huge enemies at you at once? This isn’t difficult, it’s annoying. Hate to say it, but Nioh 2 kinda knocks Elden Ring out of the park in terms of Soulslike combat. This really is Dark Souls 2.2
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	Agreed 100%, really was disappointed with back half of the game. Went back to nioh 2 after I finished elden ring, and really have no plans to go back
BarbiePop 03.19.22	lol it has nothing to do with the game, you're doing something wrong. Grieving is a process and you'll be back. Learn how to time the enemies' attacks, time the dodge rolls, make sure you have all access to the smithing stones [9] and somber stones [9] and you'll be on easy street. It's really not that hard.
BarbiePop 03.19.22	It's the easiest souls game to date. It just takes time to get what you need for certain areas. Mountaintops is a good place, you get the best sword in the game up there, level it up and go back. Rivers of Blood. If you're not a Dex/Arc build, change it if you need to. You can farm larval tears from the ball in Noksella.
BarbiePop 03.19.22	I have like 15 of those larval tears.
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	It's not a matter of difficulty, it's a matter a quality. Game is rushed and uninspired after the the capitol
BarbiePop 03.19.22	lmao
BarbiePop 03.19.22	All i can say is get better. That's where the game takes off. I mean you can go play Horizon and have the game hold your hand for you...
BarbiePop 03.19.22	I think this game is the easiest one tbh, Bloodborne was way harder. Especially the DLC on DS3, that was rough. This is ez mode. Maybe it's not for you? idk?
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	I've already beaten the game a week ago, so I don't think I need to get better. Souls fans can't handle any sort of criticism huh, always have to resort to the "git gud" argument when someone says something negative
DocSportello 03.19.22	Hey Barb, I know what I’m doing. I’m a “Souls vet”. I’ve done Bloodborne and DS1/3 without leveling up. I understand I could do the same for this game, but the general combat “aesthetic” and world feels like a subversion of From’s general commitment to balance. It’s fun until it runs out of ideas and throws two or three of everything at you, and dogs. And I still like the game—its pvp potential redeems it, plus some legitimately fun bosses—I’m just saying the game isn’t as tight as I originally thought it was
BarbiePop 03.19.22	If you beat the game you mean you completed the story? I'm confused. The best part of the game is after Radahn.
DocSportello 03.19.22	Nevermind
BarbiePop 03.19.22	lol what build are you? Curious.
BarbiePop 03.19.22	Don't give up! The best part of this game is PvP, well for me anyways. I rek.
Gyromania 03.19.22	"Hate to say it, but Nioh 2 kinda knocks Elden Ring out of the park in terms of Soulslike combat. This really is Dark Souls 2.2" "Agreed 100%, really was disappointed with back half of the game. Went back to nioh 2 after I finished elden ring, and really have no plans to go back" wait, are you guys the same person? what are the odds of getting a take that bad from two different people back to back
BarbiePop 03.19.22	If someone duels me it's a 99% chance win. Even that deathblight thing, I can counter it. It's pretty easy. I just invade now and see what happens. It's super fun!
BarbiePop 03.19.22	Nioh 2 is boring, it's a good game but if you wanna really have fun play Sekiro. Also, Elden Ring has PvP so its better for replay
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	How is that a bad take? Nioh 2 actually has interesting combat with way more options and creativity.
Gyromania 03.19.22	nioh 2 is full of cheap ass video gamey bs. it's tailored to be a HARD GAME MANNNNNNN. i beat the game but the difficulty just seems so artificial, and the level design is so fucking boring
BarbiePop 03.19.22	It was easy lol, they tried so hard to copy Sekiro. That is still that hardest game I've ever played, I still haven't beat it yet!
BarbiePop 03.19.22	FromSoft hardest game easily.
DocSportello 03.19.22	Gyro, why are you always so quick to shit on someone’s opinion? Jesus. Nobody wants to discuss things seriously with a voice orbiting around the good/bad cool/uncool distinction. Chances are I’m just as experienced in these games as you are, at least it’s a possibility, so if you wanna dig into my criticism maybe do so in a way that invites discussion?
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	Don't even bother Doc, they'll just say your take is bad if you don't suck miyazaki's dick
DocSportello 03.19.22	Sekiro nails sheer combat in a way Nioh 2 doesn’t. It also has a better world. Nioh 2 does have bad level design and yes you’re basically supposed to exploit the game and melt enemies. I’m only saying it actually offers a more satisfying gameplay loop in and of itself and of the Soulslike genre (Sekiro isn’t a Soulslike, I don’t know why it’s compared to Sekiro)
Gyromania 03.19.22	doc your take is bad because it doesn't suck miyazaki's dick
DocSportello 03.19.22	Yeah you’re funny
MyColdShoulder 03.19.22	See, what did I say. Typical souls fan smh
Gyromania 03.19.22	gotta be a simp
Mongi123 03.19.22	Nioh is absolutely dreadful 😉
SpiritCrusher2 03.19.22	damn, Fire Giant sucks
mynameischan 03.19.22	Nioh 2 is an absolutely amazing game. Love it to pieces.
ReefaJones 03.19.22	Elden Ring is harder than Sekiro if you are actually playing without using those spirit ashes, which I think they implemented because of all the complaints by casuals who thought their other games were too hard. Sekiro's combat system is their most balanced. It never feels like you're getting cheesed by some bullshit. It's super fair and therefor rewards the time you put into it more. The other soulslike games always feel a little less polished to me combat wise especially when you are fighting huge ass bosses with invisible hitboxes etc. I don't mind it too much because I still love these games.
ReefaJones 03.19.22	Also it's impossible to construct a combat system as tight as sekiro's in these more traditional souls games where you have hundreds of different weapons/different builds etc. to choose from. You are literally trading a tighter combat system for more freedom in the way you can play these games. Sekiro's gameplay was way more restricted. Both philosophies have their upsides and downsides. I love Sekiro for the amazing combat but I love their other games for the different builds/weapons etc.
protokute 03.19.22	I agree with you, Reefa! And I truly think that Sekiro is the closest thing to a masterpiece FromSoftware made, they just nailed the combat system, and level design there. And yes, in my opinion, Sekiro is a harder game when comparing with the Souls series, but it feels like a natural difficulty, one which you learn with it, and you're actually able to realize how it was really your fault if you died, and trying to understand what you did wrong and try again, and it was ultra rewarding when you actually were able to master a boss or an area. As much as I love the Souls series, and you definitely also need to understand the combat system and bosses, the difficulty always felt more dependent on luck, "right" builds and a sheer amount of time spent obsessing about defeating the boss, just trying the same kind of thing but hoping for the best that things would be in your favor this time.
DocSportello 03.20.22	Fire Giant actually kinda rules
JohnnyoftheWell 03.20.22	i've probably sunk more hours into nioh 2 than any individual souls game, and tbqh zero regrets. combat goes much harder even if the world design is whatever
twlight 03.20.22	purchased... add me to the 12 million
SpiritCrusher2 03.20.22	"Fire Giant actually kinda rules" I found the fight to be both amazing and infuriating at the same time. it's a spectacle for sure
BaselineOOO 03.20.22	Nioh 2 has a catalogue where you can view the 3d models of any enemy in the game. Nioh 2 = Resident Evil > Ubisoft, Dice, From Software, whatever etc.
Slex 03.20.22	Fire Giant was legit the hardest boss yet for me for some reason lol
protokute 03.20.22	the first phase was tough, but surprisingly defeated him on the first time i got to the second phase.
Slex 03.20.22	Interesting to see all the differing opinions lol, I thought his 2nd phase was a lot harder
protokute 03.20.22	ok, lighting those candles in the liturgical town is turning out to be a pretty difficult exercise edit: oh didn't know it was actually possible to kill the archers
Jamdbz 03.20.22	The Malenia fight really took the wind out of my sails. That anime move is such nonsense
ReefaJones 03.20.22	just dodge it bro. Activate your reptile brain
BaselineOOO 03.20.22	yo careful guys, if you don't beat Maeleena first try you might die in a video game!! traumatic stuff
Gyromania 03.20.22	nioh 2 has so much "gotcha" bullshit in it ansd so many cheap one shot kills - and sometimes those come from enemies who do them in a single frame of animation. i beat the game, i think it does have some good combat and a lot of things going for it, but it just seems frustrating for the sake of it a lot of the time. never did check out the dlc, maybe it's better than the core game.
protokute 03.20.22	should i feel ashamed of using a spirit summon against malenia? c'mon guys that whirl attack is just ridiculous, the fight itself is already hard af, but that thing...
BaselineOOO 03.20.22	@protokute www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuacdcAOLBk
Jamdbz 03.20.22	finally beat malenia using my reptile brain. jfc i'm just glad it's over.
ReefaJones 03.20.22	Apparently they nerfed Radahn which they didn't need to instead of Malenia
Gyromania 03.20.22	They nerfed Radahn? That's lame
Mongi123 03.21.22	At the very least take away her ability to regain health by you literally doing anything
JohnnyoftheWell 03.21.22	Absolutely not, that's the best part of the fight. Keeps the intensity right where it needs to be @gyro a lot of Nioh 2's oneshot shit is level-dependent, but even if you're getting tanked, the game gives you more survival and resurrection tools than anything else I can think of. Only times I outright had to retreat from levels was with NG+ cycles where I was deliberately pushing out of my depth
Mongi123 03.21.22	Where it needs to be is absolute bullshit
JohnnyoftheWell 03.21.22	drop that shield and keep gitting gud hun
Mongi123 03.21.22	Nobody calls me hun except my future wife!
rufinthefury 03.21.22	cant lie, disappointed by NG+ so far. items that are permanent key carry-overs dont get replaced with anything so you can find chests with just straight up nothing in them. Nothing feels scaled up, I'm tearing through everything with ease. Made a straight shot to the capital city and then doubled back to do Stormveil and Raya Lucaria which were both just pathetically easy. Really hoping things pick up in the later areas.
BaselineOOO 03.21.22	Least amount of fun I've had in any From game. I've beaten 95% of the bosses and mini-bosses, missed some red NPCs and two catacombs mini-bosses. There's nothing more to do other than try a faith build. Would probably not even bother to replay it or try NG+ this year. This was more disappointing to me than Tool's Fear Inoculum. If anything, this game only made me realize Sekiro was a supreme From masterpiece. I hope they will go back to closed-world level design, cause this honestly sucked compared to their last three games. Sorry if I disappointed you guys but this is my real opinion. I could write an actual review but it would take me ages and the game left me empty inside and mildly irritated, honestly I can't even bother... This game was not what I was hoping it to be, at all. This game felt westernized and dumbed-downed, hardly Japanese in its vision...
Gyromania 03.21.22	Yeah man this game fucking sucks such a disappointment can't believe I got so hyped for it. It's just a big open world with rly cool NPCs and some insane boss fights with tons of weapons and spells and things. This shit is so dumbed down, it's basically like assassin's creed
Gyromania 03.21.22	Glad you at least acknowledged what a masterpiece Sekiro is tho. I guess you got something worth while out of the experience
BaselineOOO 03.21.22	It's FROM dumbed-down, I don't give a shit about western games. These guys distilled the Dark Souls experience into a western-like game, they betrayed everything they stood for. Doesn't mean Elden Ring is bad, it's just sooo much weaker than their other games it hurts.
Gyromania 03.21.22	Yeah fuck Western games they're all just objectively bad. I hate that it's not as obscure as demon's souls or dark souls. The game is practically holding your hand the whole way through and nothing is missable.
BaselineOOO 03.21.22	Sorry? I even found a nickname for this game, Dark Soulless. :(
Gyromania 03.21.22	Why are you sorry?
BaselineOOO 03.21.22	I don't know Gyro, I was planning to quit gaming altogether, right after playing the greatest game of all time (what I hoped ER would be) and I feel it underdelivered. It's an amazing game that I cannot connect with emotionally. Now look at me, being sour and all. I am sorry for the negativity, I hope you enjoy this game far more than I was able to! Looking at the Glitchwave shoutbox I can see that many others feel like this. Apparently it isn't just me, it's quite a vocal minority who feels the same. Never once did I feel irritated by a From software game before this one. It's one thing to get frustrated at an area, and another to get irritated by them and advance through them impersonally. I enter a new legacy dungeon and just run through it like a robot, quickly take all possible paths, find secrets, kill all enemies in sight and at the end I remain with this bad taste in my mouth - was that all? Maybe I should've nerfed myself, as I found the game rather easy after Stormveil. I don't know, apart from its obvious cons, something about this game feels "off" for me, and I cannot quite put my finger on it. I'm sad, I'd gladly replay DeS, DS1, DS2, DS3 and Sekiro any time in my life, just not ER.
Gyromania 03.21.22	Lol it's all good man I was just being sassy. I had that same fatigue after decades of gaming and I didn't play games for years but now for whatever reason in my 30s I'm more into them than ever
protokute 03.21.22	From the footage I have seen, mage builds are dope af in this game, so many interesting and unique spells.
BaselineOOO 03.22.22	My Keanu Reeves character preset got featured in an IGN video lulz! https://youtube.com/watch?v=WDzViuT9tio
Gyromania 03.22.22	haha that's awesome. grats
zaruyache 03.22.22	i started duel-wielding moonveil and uchigatana to cheese bosses and it's nice to go full weeb and bleeeed everything. power stancing is useful weeeeooww
Scheumke 03.22.22	Ruins greatsword at +9 at lvl 99 and I'm at 800 dmg lol. Imma thic boi and loving it. Finished Altus plateau and now off to Mt. Gelmir.
Devastator 03.22.22	Gotta get Blaidd's armor so I can complete my Guts cosplay with my Heavy Greatsword.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.22.22	@colton skip to around 8:15 in this it's a good hurr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpR6V6wLYc
rufinthefury 03.22.22	I'm open to people criticizing Elden Ring but not if they think Sekiro is From's magnum opus. I trust a DS2 fan more than a Sekiro diehard.
ReefaJones 03.22.22	I mean If pure combat is your thing then Sekiro is the was to go so I can understand it being someone's favorite
WatchItExplode 03.22.22	No idea why someone would put crazy amounts of hours into a game that left them feeling hollow. Some of y'all are too hardcore for me though. I'm at 100 hours and I think the last 20 have all been in the capital city. I'm at level 80. That's appropriate for the location right?
Anthracks 03.22.22	Haven’t played in about a week. Picking back up at the malenia (sp) quest
JayEnder 03.22.22	Just bought this and the first NPC I encounter tells me I have no bitches. 10/10
Colton 03.22.22	nice johnny. I'll have to use that poison cloud technique, right after I find someone to wipe my ass for me every day
Colton 03.22.22	haven't played in like a week cause of cringe irl obligations but gonna dive in for a fat sesh tmo night
Gyromania 03.22.22	Haha are there actually people who think dark souls 2 is better than Sekiro? That's fucked
Slex 03.22.22	Colton I'm surprised you wipe your ass considering the amount of pretentious shit you've been spewing all over this thread lol Love ya but my god
Colton 03.22.22	i'm trying to inspire you guys to be better. I believe in you. the game devs believe in you. you can literally watch interviews where they say they want people to overcome adversity, it's a huge part of the appeal of these games. spirits and other forms of cheese were added to this game as a way of conning you out of attaining that satisfaction. I just don't understand why people willingly choose to be mediocre. I guess that's just how the world is nowadays.
DungeonBoy 03.22.22	I completely ruined the battle with Margit by summoning my wolf spirits AND the summoned warrior next to the summon stone, and they literally just baited him the entire battle while I just swung at him from behind and killed him first try. It wasn't fun, and totally went against the rest of the game up until that point, and after. It's just bizarre too cause then you get into the castle and the knights will totally wreck you if you haven't gotten gud. Fun game tho
JayEnder 03.22.22	Well, this is fun. And by fun I mean incredibly fucking frustrating.
beefshoes 03.22.22	Beat Melenia last night solo in just a few tries. Granted I'm level 150 now, but still it was insanely satisfying after reading all of the horror stories since launch. Way easier than Isshin and OoK
SaveBandit 03.22.22	Started a bleed build last night and was messing around with dual katanas. Sounds strange but it's actually fun as fuck so far lol.
Gyromania 03.22.22	I can consistently beat both versions of Isshin without dying or rly even taking a lot of damage. I don't think I could ever do that to Malenia unless I had something rly cheesy, like mimic tear + rivers of blood. I've had a couple matches where the stars just kind of aligned for me, but bad RNG is almost certain death
Avagantamos 03.22.22	guess I just suck lol because it took me close to 100 tries to beat malenia even with the most OP spirit summons. tried a bunch of different mimic tear setups for quite a while, but ended up finally getting her down with the help of black knife tiche while I spammed adula's moonblades
Colton 03.22.22	is it just me or is Radahn kinda easy? his attacks aren’t that hard to dodge if you just stay close to him. struggled a lot more with other bosses
SaveBandit 03.22.22	I thought Radahn was a fun fight. Took a few tries, but he didn't feel overpowered or anything. I haven't fought him since the patch, apparently he's way easier now? That's kinda lame.
ReefaJones 03.22.22	yeah Radahn got nerfed heavily. Smaller hitboxes, lower damage. Tracking on the orbs got changed etc
protokute 03.22.22	the most frustrating part of the Radahn fight is the beginning run while avoiding those arrows, it gets a bit tedious after a while.
Gyromania 03.22.22	Him getting nerfed is lame af
SaveBandit 03.22.22	The beginning run while dodging the arrows was fun as hell imo lol. I got hit once or twice by them but once you get the timing down it's pretty damn easy to roll through. Kinda made the fight more interesting too rather than just walking right into the boss room like every other fight.
protokute 03.22.22	yea, it's not hard, and it is cool... on the first three tries
beefshoes 03.22.22	Just found out that I locked myself out of rivers of blood. Had no idea that the invasion is blocked after beating fire giant
Anthracks 03.22.22	What were they smoking when they designed the malenia fight? Gonna make me respec and invest in a new weapon just for one boss. So stupid
RadioSuicide 03.22.22	after 70 hours on ps4 i decided to say fuck it and scour for a ps5. found a disc edition for only $150 above retail after taxes, picking it up tmrrw. 60fps and brief load times, here i fucking come
RadioSuicide 03.22.22	also not to double post but i'm currently hardstuck on Radahn because i can't traverse the god damn mist to fight him no matter how many times i reload the event. kinda disheartening, can't find a fix
Anthracks 03.22.22	I refuse to believe you beat malenia in a “few” tries but think ook is hard?
beefshoes 03.23.22	I just didn't find it that difficult to dodge most of her attacks given how well telegraphed they are, and her health pool is slim. Maliketh and Radahn gave me the most trouble for sure. The former is one of the hardest bosses in the whole series easily.
Anthracks 03.23.22	Out of the 800 games I’ve beaten in my life, nothing comes close to her difficulty. She has the two single most difficult attacks to dodge in the entire game - you downloaded those after a mere two tries? Or did you use mimic tear like all the guides say to do?
Gyromania 03.23.22	I did not struggle with Maliketh lol. Weird to see how people's experiences are so different
Anthracks 03.23.22	I am in disbelief at how difficult Malenia is. Only five FromSoft bosses have killed me over 10 times, but she’s killed me over 80 times.
Dewinged 03.23.22	I just beat fucking Astel and now I am coming for the fucking Gargoyles. I'm Vengeance.
Slex 03.23.22	Yo Mogh fight is crazy stunning but this fucker is hard lol, honestly find him considerably harder than Morgott
SpiritCrusher2 03.23.22	Malenia is the first boss that made me rage-quit. holy shit
Dewinged 03.23.22	I'm scared with all this Malenia talk I've read
Scheumke 03.23.22	Imma mimic tear the shit out of her, I have no shame.
BaselineOOO 03.23.22	"I'm scared with all this Malenia talk I've read" It's all simp mentality. These guys lack a strong female presence in their life and when they meet one they start to victimize themselves. (also they haven't activated their reptile brain before the fight).
BaselineOOO 03.23.22	https://i.imgur.com/Neyx4QM.jpg Does your character even look as good as mine???
rufinthefury 03.23.22	bruh I had Placidusux down to like 25% hp on my first attempt in NG+ and then the fucking servers go down for maintenance and I get the boot. fuck me
Anthracks 03.23.22	Mohg is one of my favorite fights for sure
Jamdbz 03.23.22	simpin' for malenia
Slex 03.23.22	Mohg is so fucking hard lmao
Avagantamos 03.23.22	one of the lowkey best things about this game compared to dark souls is how mid-rolling doesn't suck anymore. in DS I felt like I always had to stick to cloth/light armor in order to be able to dodge roll effectively, but I really appreciate being able to do that while actually wearing armor now.
Gyromania 03.23.22	Fought and killed Malenia again. Dogshit boss design honestly. She could be one of their best but as it stands she's just awful. Same with Radagon. Malekith too to a degree. I think maybe it was a fluke I beat him so easily the first time around because his phase two leaves few openings
JohnnyoftheWell 03.23.22	Absolutely melted Radhan on my mage playthrough, am guessing that nerf really did its work on him. Shame - that fight was pure terror the first time around and I kinda loved it
Colton 03.23.22	“mage playthrough” lol so even when you’re not carried by spirits you’re still carried
Colton 03.23.22	RadioSuicide it makes a massive difference. I generally don’t care much at all about graphics and frame rates but for this game it’s massive, ps4 version felt clunky as fuck
Gyromania 03.23.22	yeah radahn was sick. seemed like a proper demigod compared to godrick, and now he's a complete joke. he didn't need to be tuned so it's hard to wrap my head around why he got nerfed over malenia
JohnnyoftheWell 03.23.22	there are like fifty zillion ways to fry shit in blue goop in this game i am done hitting things with sticks and down with waving sticks in pretty circles
Colton 03.23.22	yeah if i wanted to avoid the core mechanics of the game and completely negate the need for timing and reflexes that might be a good option. hell maybe I’ll sign up for boxing lessons and bring a bow and arrow with me
BaselineOOO 03.23.22	Even with the lore behind his horse I couldn't Radahn seriously. When he rides away and does a silly scream before his predictable jump attack... cringe. Belongs to God of War or something. I hope they nerf him to mini-boss levels, the dude's embarrassing.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.23.22	can't hear u am shaking my arse to blue beats
zakalwe 03.23.22	I thought Radhan was great. Still haven’t got a bleedin clue where I’m going.
Gyromania 03.23.22	i could see the comparison to god of war... as in, it's what god of war bosses should aspire to be
Devastator 03.23.22	Bruh I was doing Fia's quest line and ended up at the arena where you fight her champions. Today my friend tells me that's Godwyn the Gold's corpse looming above the arena?!
demigod! 03.23.22	I still haven't defeated Malenia
Colton 03.23.22	this thread has brought baseline back to his former trolling glory good stuff
Anthracks 03.23.22	I finally beat Malenia last night after 6 hours / 85 attempts / 2 respecs. The only other boss to kill me 20+ times was Father Owl (Estate) at 24. Didn’t even feel good to beat her. It honestly wouldn’t be a terrible fight if she healed a little less, or only healed when she actually hit you, but as it’s designed now it’s very broken and unfair to most play styles.
Veldin 03.23.22	I beat Malenia last night too. Ended up bringing in my friend, because after a bunch of attempts and knowing her attacks and patterns I still couldn’t do it with my STR build and didn’t want to respec. @Anthracks - “actually hit you” - does she heal even when she doesn’t hit you?? As a STR character I had to get up close and personal and I just kept taking minor hits, healing her, but those add up and make the battle go on longer than any other boss. After the academy I pretty much beat every boss first try but NOT Malenia. She’s cool tho. Oh and Alecto the Ringleader. For some reason it was tough as nails for me. Beat Mohg and Maliketh first try but fucking Alecto took me at least a dozen tries
BaselineOOO 03.23.22	Why do all bosses in this game have neon attacks, they all shoot lasers from their eyes/mouth/ears (and butt, I'm not kidding), they also spit poisons, emanate curses and rot and whatnot. Eveywhere I step there's a freaking lava pool, lightning pool, meteor cloud, a crappy force field, and even stupid orbs/skulls following you around for minutes no matter how much you dodge spam. OK, SO, like ffs From if you hate melee that much go make a Harry Potter game.
Anthracks 03.23.22	I’m referring to how she heals when you block. Sword / shield users have to learn to play bloodborne style for this fight alone which is kind of silly. I like these games because typically you can get through the entire game with the build of your choosing, but Malenia put a stop to that. Granted she’s optional, but not for a completionist
Mort. 03.23.22	i still havent finished the game omg theres too much just beat godskin noble (first try wooop) and am also looking for praetor rykard or whatever hes called
Scheumke 03.23.22	@Veldin: I'm having the same problems with my str build on Alecto, he's just a bitch as a big weapon user. Can probably be trivialised with a different build tho.
Gyromania 03.23.22	loool speaking of harry potter, hogwarts legacy looks potentially very good. i have a feeling the actual product won't look nearly as beautiful as they made that showcase look, but even still it could be one to look out for
Anthracks 03.23.22	i have a str build and made alecto my bitch. if your weapon has a roll jab (like the ruins greatsword) bait his attack, roll backwards, and then jab him. it works 95% of the time. i think he only hit me once or twice once i exploited that
zaruyache 03.24.22	did the first part of the siofra ruins and while those gd archers were annoying, it's probably the prettiest place I've seen so far? Nokron lit in orange above is really neat to look at up there.
beefshoes 03.24.22	Hogwarts Legacy definitely has potential. I grew up with the old PS2 games, so it'll be worth it for the nostalgia alone.
Devastator 03.24.22	I have a feeling Miquella is gonna play a role in future DLC. Malenia calls him the most fearsome Emperyn and we don't know much about him.
rufinthefury 03.24.22	NG+ done, on to NG++ to get Madness ending and then I'm done with the achievements. Can't lie, NG+ was really really easy and nothing really got harder which was a great shame, but I do like power fantasy so hey. Melania was still hard.
Avagantamos 03.24.22	radagon fight sucks. the timing on dodging his attacks is so awkward. elden beast is ok, haven't beat it yet though, just wish I didn't have to chase it around so much
Anthracks 03.24.22	Maliketh dies in like 5 hits … very disappointed after some hyped him up to be a great and difficult fight
Anthracks 03.25.22	I’m a little disappointed in the boss fight designs toward the end of the game. It seems like it’s just constant long string attacks from almost every late game boss
Gyromania 03.25.22	godfrey is incredible. maliketh is great too but his speed can be overwhelming and the mechanics of draining your health is a bit lame. placidusax is just superb boss design though. mohg lord of blood is also up there for me. radagon/elden beast can foad tho
Anthracks 03.25.22	I thought Radagon / Elden Beast was one of the better fights
rufinthefury 03.25.22	Yeah huh? That final boss is great. It's not all that hard either, literally the only complex element are the rings maybe? Which once you learn the dodge timing, ez Radagon is one of the more fun duels in the whole game imo
Anthracks 03.25.22	My top 5 fights: Mohg, Radagon / Elden Beast, Margit, Astel, Fire Giant The only two fights I truly did not enjoy were Malenia and Radahn. I understand what they were trying to do with them, but it's off-brand to have that level of gimmick / unfairness in a FromSoft game. To beat Malenia without summoning, ashes, or other cheese, you had to be both perfect and lucky. Typically to beat the difficult FS bosses you merely need to be perfect.
Gyromania 03.25.22	Margit over Morgott. Bizarre. Yeah Malenia needs tuning, but Radahn got nerfed into the ground and he really wasn't that bad. Radagon is fucking awful, his attack timings are extremely awkward and he has tons of bs spam and aoe. He can just teleport as you're hitting him and it does damage to you
BaselineOOO 03.25.22	Rykard's cutscene is so retarded and has the worst voice acting I've ever heard. So anti-climactic. Was that cringy "very well" necessary? I hope they fire the scene director of this game lmao. Also, it kinda sucks that all late ER bosses are probably Sekiro DLC bosses rebranded. Godfrey moves and looks exactly like a Sekiro boss wtf.
Anthracks 03.25.22	I thought Radagon was totally fair. There were several runs where I got through him pretty much unscathed. For the time that you fight them, Morgott was way too easy. Margit was much more of a challenge, IMO I wouldn’t be surprised if Hoarah Louh makes an appearance in the next Tekken
Gyromania 03.26.22	Lol baseline you HAVE to be trolling with that post. Rykard has a bad cutscene? He's sizing you up with that "very well". And no boss in this game is anything like a Sekiro boss idk what you're on about
zaruyache 03.26.22	I killed Radahn in like four or five tries only? How bad did they massacre my boy, he wasn't challenging at all? Just pocked him with pebbles and ran away on my much more size-appropriate horsey.
BaselineOOO 03.26.22	"he [Radahn] wasn't challenging at all? Just pocked him with pebbles and ran away" So you cheesed him with high intelligence stats. Sounds like FUN! No melee strategy is fun on Radahn, he has attack patterns in which he basically ignores you while you're freely hitting his toes and dick-horse, and other attacks in his 2nd phase in which he's simply obnoxious. His cringe, non-Japanese standard design aside, he's mechanically one of the weakest From bosses ever, DS1 trash bosses included.
BaselineOOO 03.26.22	Alecto is an obnoxious fight. From Software really need to get their shit together... I've beaten her 6th or 7th try, but damn, it's disappointing how a mini-boss with a dagger can basically one shot you at vigor level 50. She just needs a single successful grab attack to take you down, while you have to backstab her 15-20+ times.
rufinthefury 03.26.22	I'm running around with two Godrick Fists now and it's so much fun lmfao. Can't hit shit from my horse, but who cares when I have two talismans to boost my consecutive attacks AND I get leech on consecutive attacks. I'm a whirlwind of fists
beefshoes 03.26.22	I've been stuck on Godfrey for days. Considering taking a break to avoid burnout.
zakalwe 03.26.22	Taking a break is highly recommended
Gyromania 03.26.22	Lolol saying Radahn is as bad as the bad bosses from DS1. He's not even top 5 hardest bosses in the game but he has a ton of move variety wtf. He seems intimidating at first but once you know all of his moves he's manageable and fun. Esp now that they nerfed the hell out of him because people wouldn't stop whining
zaruyache 03.26.22	i am demanding they fix him, the only thing annoying about him is his repeatedly killing my horse.
BaselineOOO 03.26.22	Gyromania tell me what you think about Alecto.
Gyromania 03.26.22	Alecto is lame af, I just waited until the endgame and went back and wasted him. It's w.e, it's just a miniboss
Anthracks 03.26.22	how can you be struggling with godfrey but beat malenia in 3 tries?... does not compute (not letting this go lol) but good luck beating him. it's a cool fight but i thought it was pretty one dimensional
Anthracks 03.26.22	beating elden ring on thursday was perfect timing because the new kirby just came in and it's the perfect comedown
Scheumke 03.27.22	Lyendell is awesome. I'm still loving the game and haven't encountered much frustration since Radahn honestly. Enjoyed mt. Gelmir a lot and Rykard was a spectacle fight done right imo.
twlight 03.27.22	beat margit tonight.. totally cheesed his ass with ashes and FP sneak attacks... didnt feel earned but fuck it.. absolutely loving the game so far
necropig 03.27.22	played it on a base ps4 at my brothers today, I do not envy anyone playing this game on the og console. It was big sluggish.
rufinthefury 03.28.22	Haligtree, Fire Giant, and then Cindered Capitol and I'm done with this game. Using dual whips rn, they kinda suck but also theyre fun idk
BaselineOOO 03.28.22	I "like" how the leonine misbegotten npcs at Leyndell deal twice more damage than the guy who's literally the boss of the entire area. They 100% never test played this game lol.
SpiritCrusher2 03.28.22	got wrecked by Malenia, decided to leave her for later. went to Crumbling Farum Azula, got destroyed by Maliketh, thinking about leaving him for later. soon there will be no content to do if I do not start beating these bosses. I guess it's time to GIT GUD
zakalwe 03.28.22	Gave in and had to look at guides which I really didn’t want to do but fuck it. Now up to cosmic mandible laser thing.
beefshoes 03.28.22	"how can you be struggling with godfrey but beat malenia in 3 tries?... does not compute (not letting this go lol)" I said a few tries figuratively lmao Still, it didn't take any longer than an hour for me. Having tons of vigor, powerstancing greatswords, and going in naked for the fast rolls helped though. Finally got Godfrey but I'm not finished with Elden Beast yet.
Avagantamos 03.28.22	you had godrick alive still by the time you were at elden beast? I assume you instantly deleted him from existence then
rufinthefury 03.29.22	I fucking did it, 100% completion of achievements. I think I'm gonna break for a while.
Dewinged 03.29.22	Just got the Blasphemous sword upgraded to the max and my Faith build is wrecking shit on anything prior to Lyndell. Cut Fortissux and the Black Gargoyle in Dragonbarrow like butter.
rufinthefury 03.29.22	speaking of which, Blasphemous Sword MH and Gargloyle Greatsword OH is disgustingly good. I had to purposefully move to something more challenging because I found dual wielding them was just too good for Str+Fth. Try it
Dewinged 03.29.22	Ooh didn't think about power stancing that, ng+ is gonna be fun
rufinthefury 03.29.22	hell yeah, NG+ is basically a victory lap so enjoy it
necropig 03.29.22	https://store.bandainamcoent.eu/uk/product/719395/elden-ring-the-vinyl-collection-limited-edition Just ordered myself one
Gyromania 03.30.22	lol that link just redirects to the main bandai namco page. dumpster ass website
WatchItExplode 03.30.22	I regret taking my time. Whatever they did to redahn was anticlimactic as f***
WatchItExplode 03.30.22	Dude was like tree sentinel on level 80
Gyromania 03.30.22	yeah it's a real shame they nerfed him. luckily i got to beat him prior to
Dewinged 03.30.22	Same, and I have some of the footage on YT. It took hours to beat him, spread on different days. I wasn't so stuck on a boss since the Ornstein and Smough days. I haven't got to Melania though ;( Yesterday I got acquainted with the Fire Giant, loved it.
zaruyache 03.30.22	i thought I was done with this underground bit and then I found a lake of rot. i want to go home, oh i want to go home
Dewinged 03.30.22	You don't have the right oh you don't have the right
beefshoes 03.31.22	Finally done. Game was an easy 10/10, but then they went and nerfed Radahn.
BaselineOOO 03.31.22	Radahn pre-nerf was for me a low priority boss, I wish I could see him as a relevant figure but that fight is just lame.
rufinthefury 03.31.22	It's so sad how badly they nerfed Radahn, he really didn't need it. When I first fought him it took me about 20 tries probably and I was convinced he was the best spectacle boss From had made (and he was up to that point lol).
BaselineOOO 04.01.22	I hate how the dragon fights drag on and on. Oh.
WatchItExplode 04.01.22	I have decided the urumi is my favorite souls weapon ever.
Effigy 04.01.22	After 40h of pretending/forcing myself to like it I finally uninstalled and a HUGE burden was lifted.
Gyromania 04.01.22	"Radahn pre-nerf was for me a low priority boss, I wish I could see him as a relevant figure but that fight is just lame" Translation: you're bad at it
Pon 04.03.22	80-something hours invested, every major boss slain incl. optional ones; can safely say this is one of the best and most immersive, but also brutally punishing and at times downright infuriating games I've ever played. Will no doubt play through many more times, saying how much I love and hate it alternately. Here's to my Souls brothers \o/
Dewinged 04.03.22	Amen Jacq. At Malenia right now learning combos and getting completely destroyed. I love her.
zakalwe 04.03.22	Uninstalled.
Pon 04.03.22	Malenia is the single hardest FromSoft boss I've fought. Only one that's forced me to change (though not quite respec) my setup to beat them. Took about 40 tries, bloodhound step and some dual katana bois but I did it.
RadioSuicide 04.04.22	yeah i swamped her with rivers of blood, felt dirty but it was borderline necessary. crazy hard fight. finally beat the game tonight @ 121 hours, bless up
Dewinged 04.04.22	"Uninstalled." lol zaka
BaselineOOO 04.04.22	For me the last fight is 3x more difficult than Malenia, until the dude transforms into Dragonite for some reason, then it is too easy. Malenia is a docile bae once you get to know her. I can beat her every 2 tries. If you keep your distance she just walks slowly, giving you time to apply like 5 buffs, not to mention easily predict any of her moves, which are quite easy to dodge due to their obvious wind-ups; and the flurry attack is basically useless against one-two rolls and a decent shield. The only people I see complaining about her is roll spammers who think Souls games are about exchanging attacks followed by flask drinking.
Purpl3Spartan 04.04.22	Bought the game Thursday night. Love it. Last ended in the academy
Dewinged 04.04.22	I always die at that flurry cause I spam roll as a bad habit. If you block the first flurry and then just walk to the side she just flurries away from you. But she's damn hard, I am trying to learn to parry her but my reflexes are not what they used to be.
BaselineOOO 04.04.22	Dewinged you can try long range weapons, halberds and spears work nicely. She's particularly aggressive in close combat.
Dewinged 04.04.22	yeah I am using the Blasphemous sword cause the Special attack stuns her on the ground (the animation is so funny lol) and when I get frustrated I change to my trusty Halberd. Problem is my build is Faith based but I have applied Frost now which scales with INT, so i am not sure the trade off it's actually worth it. Might just infuse with holy again to get that FTH scaling idk. Or maybe I should just lvl up, I am around 110 now. (After seeing people beating her at lvl 1 this seems irrelevant though).
JohnnyoftheWell 04.04.22	https://www.ign.com/articles/elden-ring-patch-103-buff-radahn-accidental-nerf HUMANITY RESTORED
Gyromania 04.04.22	Great news, glad to hear it. I'm sure a lot of people will be upset about this but idc, he should be hard af, he's supposed to be the strongest demigod. Now they just need to buff Godrick
WatchItExplode 04.04.22	I just discovered nakron or whatever 150 hours in this game is insane
protokute 04.04.22	Just finished the game today after a week break. I guess Godfrey is easily my favorite boss, love how he absolutely destroy you but still has respect for you. Had him without using any spirits, difficult but totally fair and interesting fight. Radagon was cool, Elden Beast meh.....
zaruyache 04.05.22	if i get around to a second playthru soon (got to the plateau at like ~80 hrs lmao), i hope i get to experience a good radahn fight finally lol.
Dewinged 04.05.22	I'm more excited about a new playthrough than about finishing the current one. How the hell did I miss the whole Volcano Manor dungeon...?! Spend the night on that Lyndell sewers labyrinth, jesus christ, who designed that shit??
Gmork89 04.05.22	Same about Radahn, excited to get the read deal on NG+.
BaselineOOO 04.05.22	If Godrick is described by Gideon as such a weakling, why does his great rune show the complete Elden Ring logo?
Avagantamos 04.05.22	spoiler alert gideon is actually dumb
Dewinged 04.05.22	Ripping off a dragon god's head and attaching it to your arm so u can spit ancestral fire doesn't translate as "weakling" to me, honestly.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Godrick is a poséur, self-harm is so 2005 Malenia on ng+ is hell
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	“Fixed” radahn was too easy imo
JohnnyoftheWell 04.10.22	has anyone tried the waterfowl dance counter where you throw a freezing pot at Malenia just before she spams it? or used pots at all for that matter
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	I have never thrown a single pot
zaruyache 04.10.22	i sometimes craft fire and poison pots just to get a little poking in, since i'm always too heavy to equip an extra bow
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Malenia in ng+ is straight up just An RNG fight, pretty sad since it was one of my favs in ng
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Will she use water fowl?!
JohnnyoftheWell 04.10.22	get them pots! and uh see if they actually work? have not tried them yet and am midkey terrified of what Malenia is going to do to my very adequately levelled mage build, who was struggling against Loretta last time I checked in
rufinthefury 04.10.22	Malenia on NG+ is way easier than the first time around wym dont tell me you dont know how to dodge water fowl still
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	I can only dodge like half of water fowl max and I can’t even beat her with mimic tear in ng+ 😂 She’s the only boss that hasn’t been easier in ng+ for me. That’s kind of part of the charm of fromsoft tho, it’s interesting to see how much different your build and play style makes the game for each person @johnny you might have an easier time than me as a mage, I’m a quality build and she’s obliterating me
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Power stance wielding colossal weapons, obliterate her health bar, she still obliterates mine more
JohnnyoftheWell 04.10.22	yeah, she tore me a new one the first time i played (as a dex/bleed build) - been holding off on ng plus with that character, but good to know there's a challenge waiting at the end ig. will probs do it in full cosplay
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Bleed builds are supposed to be effective against her too. I only got through her in ng because I could stagger her every hit with R1 spam with my storm halberd and has a tonne of stamina, but with the colossal weapons they take up too much stamina to stay so aggressive for so long and then if she does water fowl I can roll through the first part and then accidently roll right back into the second part because of target lock and she just eviscerates me
twlight 04.10.22	Game is a fucking masterpiece. I'm running easy mode with bloodhound sword upgraded. So fun. 30 hrs in
twlight 04.10.22	So with bloodhound sword you can press l2 and the immediately press and charged r2 for a double attack. So fun
Scheumke 04.10.22	Almost done with my first playthrough 90 hours in. Already looking ahead to my next playthrough. Game is stupid fun. Melania is one of the only ones I havent been able to kill yet. I feel your pain pots, Ruins Greatsword +10 and it just hits too slow, might need to respec just for her.
Dewinged 04.10.22	At the last boss now I think, 130 hours, only that dragonkin whatever in Nokstella has survived, every other mf with a red bar is dispatched. So pumped for a second run.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.10.22	Dragonkin solider is not so bad, I believe in you
Pon 04.10.22	Bloodhound step AoW is your best chance at evading waterfowl dance. With midrolls that shit's gonna be borderline impossible.
Slex 04.10.22	Doing a thing where i am playing and re-ranking all of my fave games and it's a wonderful excuse to get started on NG+ after i beat these FF games
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Yeah, this is From's best work, and it isn't particularly close. Crazy how much they were able to take the best elements of the prior games and channel them into one sprawling beast. You've got rich atmosphere like DeS, the exploration and cavernous sense of the unknown from DS1, the sheer content of DS2 (though ER is superior in both quality AND quantity), the smoothness and polish of DS3, an often palpable dread that reminded me of BB, and the verticality and great characters of Sekiro. ER doesn't necessarily do these things better than the prior games, but to do them all at once is frankly astounding. Having said all that, BB will always be my favourite game of all time
Dewinged 04.16.22	Aside the copy paste of bosses like mob in the endgame, yeah, the game is a masterpiece.
zakalwe 04.16.22	re-installed. Plodding about in the giants mountain or whatever it is.
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Tbh I was always a fan of earlier bosses being late game mobs, as in other FS title I'm pretty sure. Maybe none did it as much as ER, but makes sense that it would be proportional to the size of the game
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	I don’t know about it being fromsofts best work, but it’s certainly one of the best open world games ever. It’s similar to Breath of the Wild for me where it makes some sacrifices to be one of the best open world games ever at the expense of being one of the best Zelda games. In this instance I don’t think Elden Rings bosses are as memorable as previous instalments, and with the sheer quantity of them I would expect more to end up NOT being reskinned or copy pasted 5 million times or just end up being common enemies.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Also probably the most tedious NG+ of the bunch. DS1 is still my fav
DDDeftoneDDD 04.16.22	Is it the storyline as amusing as...lets say...skyrim V? (Not even mentioning Witcher) I'll buy it
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Maybe not as “amusing” but I think Skyrim story is mid af and Witcher story is hot topic tier stuff so I’d say it’s definitely “better”
zakalwe 04.16.22	DS1 is still the best for me as well. Bloodbourne took awhile to truly appreciate but it’s right up there as well. Elden Ring is great but Christ it’s a plodder.
DDDeftoneDDD 04.16.22	Tks for the quick fix. I ve just decided!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Taking the dive?
EphemeralEternity 04.16.22	I want to give it a shot but I'm unemployed and living alone and I get easily addicted to games so this seems like a cocktail that ends with my landlord breaking into my apartment to find a pale flabby ghoul surrounded by beer bottles of piss glued to his tv
DDDeftoneDDD 04.16.22	Dive I will
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	@ephemeral yes this is the perfect/worst game for your predicament @ddd enjoy! Take your time and if something feels too hard go do something else and come back later
DDDeftoneDDD 04.16.22	Sweet tip potsy. Tks
BaselineOOO 04.16.22	I disagree. Elden Ring is an annoying game, it's unrefined and incomplete. No surprise there, aside from DS3 and Sekiro, From Software never released a proper finished game. Bandai Namco should stop giving them impossible deadlines.
polyrhythm 04.16.22	I'd be perfectly happy (and think it perfectly likely) that Elden Ring's DLC will complete it, a la The Old Hunters. Same goes for DS3 actually, which I find strange to describe as a 'proper finished game'. I adore it, but I really think it went from a B to an A with The Ringed City. Like a well-cooked meal that still really needed some salt and pepper
polyrhythm 04.16.22	"In this instance I don’t think Elden Rings bosses are as memorable as previous instalments, and with the sheer quantity of them I would expect more to end up NOT being reskinned or copy pasted 5 million times or just end up being common enemies." I hear you. I think ER has some fantastic bosses, but yeah, it needs 2-3 more *chef's kiss* fights to be up to the series standard. I have a feeling the best is yet to come, and the DLC will deliver on this. In the same way Old Hunters gave us Maria/Orphan/Ludwig, each of whom is better than any vanilla BB boss. Regarding ER recycling bosses and using them as common enemies late game, I'm somewhat forgiving of this, given the game's cavernous size. Compare to other FS games that do this, e.g. DS1 or Sekiro. Those games are tiny by comparison, and yet we got what like 3 Asylum Demons and 4 Drunkards? Wandering Capras, a random albino raging bull in Foutainhead? And how many Headless did we fight, like 17??
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	I didn’t mind the Demons reappearing in DS1 as far as those goes because it was actually a surprise back then and there was a legit reason for it lore-wise, having wandered up from the depths of lost Izaleth. And it was cool that first time having them initially be a threat and then by the time you see a bunch of them ur first reaction is “oh fuck” but at that point you can actually contend with them. It just felt a lot more deliberate and less “time to reuse assets” And yeah agreed ER just needed a few more really iconic boss fights. And even some of the coolest boss fights I felt were more interesting from a design perspective but less fun to actually fight. Radahn is the best example, great concept, kind of terrible actual battle
JayEnder 04.16.22	The fucking dogs and birds in this game are pissing me off more than the actual bosses.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	On an aside has anyone played Kirby Forgotten Lands? Why is it getting so much hype? It fucking sucks.
polyrhythm 04.16.22	@Pots the reused bosses in ER definitely give me the vibe you described, of your powers having increased so much since you last fought this thing that it really isn't the threat it used to be. This recycling also makes the unique late-game bosses you haven't fought yet all the more terrifying. If the level leading up to them has demons and beasts that used to give you a hard time just wandering around as regular mobs, then whatever counts as a boss in this area must be a fucking nightmare. I guess DS1's recycling felt a bit more lore-friendly though.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Yes they are still utilized in that way in ER but it wasn’t a surprise like it was in DS1 for me. I especially didn’t like when they used common enemies as dungeon bosses and just slapped unique names on them.
twlight 04.16.22	So I'm at the capital and level 103. Feels about right regular enemy difficulty scaling-wise, maybe I'm a bit overpowered. Game is blowing my mind
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Yeah, the ol' Chalice Dungeon approach
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Leyndell is the best level they've ever done, holy shit. Anor Londo except you can actually explore it. Spent 6+ hours combing every back alley and rooftop, just to make sure I hadn't missed anything
twlight 04.16.22	Those little gargoyle fuckers in the dungeons are the most annoying
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Leyndell is aight. I like the areas with more verticality than the city streets themselves which are a bit homogenous. Hate the sewers with a passion tho. My fav area in the game is the twinkly spacey bottom of the well area
Slex 04.16.22	Leyndell is so spectacular
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Siofra? It's gorgeous to look at and there's a fair bit to do there, but I think Leyndell is twice as good
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Must be to the game's credit that people can't seem to agree on how good the levels and bosses are. Rather than unanimous opinions like "Bed of Chaos is an objectively bad boss", you get all sorts of takes, implying this is down to playstyle or personal taste. I've seen people call Volcano Manor the best legacy dungeon, and also the worst. Radahn has been touted as one of the best boss fights From has ever made... and as the literal worst. And for all the people shitting on Rykard, my friend who is a Souls vet said it was in his top 5 fights of the entire series
polyrhythm 04.16.22	And here's me thinking VM, Radahn, and Rykard were all simply pretty good, 7 or 8 out of 10
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Rykard is my fav boss in the game design-wise lmao. His cut-scene is so grotesque and whoever did his voice acting is a legend. Also it’s easily the funnest gimmick fight of any fromsoft game imo. Or… ONLY fun gimmick fight perhaps.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Also anyone else kinda feel that fighting shitty phantom versions of bosses and then fighting them again later, not to mention fighting Margaret twice, added a little more insult to injury in regards to the game needing a few more epic boss fights?
Gyromania 04.16.22	That Kirby game looks pretty great honestly. Basically like their team played Mario Odyssey and said "what if we made a Kirby game that was actually good?" Rykard is easily their best gimmick fight and one of the best fights in Elden Ring. And yeah the reskins weigh the game down by quite a bit imo. I don't think it's realistic to expect like 100 wholly unique encounters, it would probably take them a decade to make a game like that for how long they spend working on bosses, but in many instances I'd rather there just be no boss than a reskinned duo gank. Fromsoft have always had this issue with turning earlier boss encounters in the game into normal enemies later too and Elden Ring is no different. When I fought the Leonine Misbegotten twice in the haligtree I couldn't help but sigh.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Yeah pretty much except they then proceeded to make a game that doesn’t live up to odyssey in any way whatsoever
polyrhythm 04.16.22	Rykard's design is so batshit insane. Like the God Emperor of Dune got fucked in the ass by Hieronymus Bosch
Gyromania 04.16.22	It's weird you said that because I'm actually watching Bosch rn! Pots: so I'm assuming you've played it and think it sucks? I've only seen the dunkey review but he made it seem good
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	Yeah I’ve been playing it and I think it’s pretty bad. The marketing did poise it as Mario odyssey but Kirby but it’s really not. The levels are painfully linear, secret hunting is about as deep as a Petri dish, there are only about a dozen or so powers (although you can “evolve” each multiple times) and it kind of just fails to capture the essence of what made Kirby games so great imo. Granted I haven’t played literally any modern kirby games, but I loved the dream land games and Crystal shards as a kid and it is terrible compared to those. It’s just so rudimentary and overly children friendly. Like most Nintendo flagships manage to balance being made for kids with still appealing to adults but I personally don’t see how this game could appeal to adults at all.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	There was something creepy and atmospheric about Kirby games back in the day and that essence is ruined by shitty dialogue and cartoony bosses. There’s no mystery or adventure.
Anthracks 04.16.22	Omg I have never seen someone so triggered by Kirby Great game to turn your brain off to. Not every game needs to be a cerebral experience.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.16.22	I’m just disappointed with it and sharing my thoughts dude
Gyromania 04.17.22	the linearity is the thing i was most worried about, but tbh it can still be good if linear (mario 3d world comes to mind). the lack of secret hunting def sucks to hear though, and yeah the lack of powers is disappointing considering how cool most of the ones i've seen look. feel like they should have gone all in on this like what was done with odyssey. my exposure to kirby doesn't go too far beyond all-stars, which i thought was a fantastic package and played it to death as a kid. all the 3d kirby games i've seen over the years just look like rly bubbly fluffy nothing games.
Gyromania 04.17.22	"There was something creepy and atmospheric about Kirby games back in the day and that essence is ruined by shitty dialogue and cartoony bosses. There’s no mystery or adventure." yeah. idk if you remember whatever game it was that had the final mission on meta knight's ship, but that was so anxiety inducing when i was a kid. racing to the very end on that bike while metaknight chases you down and keeps trying to attack you, and i think there was a timer going. i do remember some legit adrenaline fueled moments
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	It can be good linear for sure, and I loved Mario 3D world. But in this instance it’s unfortunately not. It felt like they were hyping up the AAA 3D equivalent of Odyssey but it feels like it should be $30. I think you’d also be lucky to milk much more than 10 hours out of it, and it’s not like in Odyssey where completionism is rewarding and fun, there’s nothing exciting to collect other than the power scrolls, and I’ve stumbled into every one of them so far on my first time through a level anyway
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	Recent Yoshi titles have been more serviceable than this imo and even those were just alright. Wooly World was nice, the craft one was pretty meh.
rufinthefury 04.17.22	watched Joseph Anderson's vid on Elden Ring and while I agreed with his overall points his precise points were always really stupid and asinine. Weird video, but thats what I get for listening to someone who hates Mario Odyssey I guess lol
Anthracks 04.17.22	I have played every mainline Kirby game and the new one is absolutely in line with the formula. Only having 12 powers or whatever is totally fine because most people only ever use the same handful throughout the game unless forced to otherwise. Just about every power is viable and enjoyable in the new one, especially with the upgrades so it’s quality over quantity this time around. Kirby was only ever a simple game to relax and play with 0 effort required from the player. I prefer stage based / linear game design, so I loved the simple levels and exploration. I’m pretty much over the game industry’s current hard on to turn every franchise into open world games. With few exceptions (like Elden ring) every open world game feels the same to me. The game was not marketed to be a AAA franchise transformation - it was pretty obvious from the trailers that this was another game in the tried and true Kirby formula just 3D. It is also the most lengthy Kirby game by a fair margin
BaselineOOO 04.17.22	I like the new Kirby, it's streamlined and has enjoyable smooth difficulty, anyone can enjoy it! I also think it's varied enough for its length. At least it's not as empty and uninspired as the mess that was Super Mario Odyssey.
Gyromania 04.17.22	Empty and uninspired lol. Tryharding to provoke a negative response but NOPE I WON'T
Anthracks 04.17.22	I’m definitely on the side that feels Odyssey is one of the most overrated Mario games. I still really enjoyed it, but I really don’t understand why people think it’s the definitive Mario game. Only like five worlds were even worth exploring and once you do there’s not much to encourage returning to them. I liked the collectathon feels but the worlds definitely felt shallow
polyrhythm 04.17.22	Best Mario was 3D World imo
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	I know new kirby is technically longest kirby but it doesn’t feel like it because I never die. People say kirby has always been easy and maybe it was just because I was so young but the dream land games felt like they actually had a challenge to them. I didnt need it to be an AAA open world transformation, but I would have preferred a really good new 2D Kirby (loved Metroid Dread) than a very lite 3D Kirby. I know I’m in the minority not liking it though, I’m glad other people like it rather than it being universally panned.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	I just keep wondering if I’m missing something and ’m going to encounter something that changes my mind about it at some point as I can only really do one level at a time before I get bored but the further along I get the less likely that seems
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	And perhaps it wasn’t marketed as a AAA open world transformation, but people did jump to that conclusion and ran with it similarly to how they did with Pokémon Legends, there were articles online and discussions all over Reddit about it etc, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention but from a cursory glance the hype circuit seemed to be predicting something a bit different than what we got
rufinthefury 04.17.22	Started a pure magic run and it's a bit rough early going but man, Carian Slicer + the base glintstone ranged attack and it's gooooold. Ez mode unlocked for real
rufinthefury 04.17.22	Also Galaxy > Odyssey > 64 > Sunshine > All that other shit
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.22	3D world deserves love. Wonder if it’s worth getting again for that bowser add on
polyrhythm 04.17.22	3D World couch co-op was the most fun Nintendo has ever given me
Anthracks 04.17.22	Galaxy 1 is best Mario IMO. 3d world is definitely up there. Redid the whole game on the switch release with my brothers. The bowser mini campaign is fun for a few hours but gets pretty repetitive
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.22	I really liked both Galaxy’s too, but the sandbox level design is just the ultimate Mario format imo. Mario 64 was a hugely formative game for my childhood so to see that style of Mario game done on a modern console was always going to be wildly appealing to me and that’s why Odyssey is prob my fav.
Gyromania 04.18.22	3D World is incredible and doesn't get enough recognition, and yes the Bowser add on is definitely worth playing. It's short but it's incredible. I love the galaxy games but they always looked kind of shitty on Nintendo. Would have loved to have gotten them for the switch but Nintendo made that package a limited time deal because Nintendo is fucking terrible.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.22	I got that deal. Galaxy held up and looked nice. I actually was expecting Sunshine to not have held up at all but I did enjoy it
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.22	What is the deal with Nintendo retconning galaxy 2 out of existence btw 😂
protokute 04.18.22	Galaxy 1 was the most beautiful game I had for my OG Wii and I think it held up quite nicely (rip) Loved that game and 2
Scheumke 04.19.22	Super Mario World is the best Mario game guys.
Colton 04.19.22	Galaxy 2 is one of the best games
BaselineOOO 04.19.22	Super Mario World > Galaxy 2 >>> Super Mario Bros 3 > Odyssey > Galaxy 1 > 3D World + Bowser's Fury > Sunshine > 64 > Super Mario Bros > New Super Mario Bros Wii
polyrhythm 04.19.22	New Super Mario Bros DS was my shit back in the day
Anthracks 04.19.22	Odyssey is the kind of game that really makes you excited for an Odyssey 2. in the sense that it presented a great new direction and good ideas, but nothing was explored fully enough imo. it felt like a demo for what's to come
Scheumke 04.19.22	Hahaha ofcourse Elden Ring has a patch today buffing Str builds and nerfing Faith builds now that I've just finished my Str playthrough and just started my Faith one. Typical
Devastator 04.19.22	*Looks at patch notes and sees Colossal weapon buff.* Oh yeah it's Guts time.
Anthracks 04.19.22	What’s the buff exactly?
Devastator 04.19.22	Attack speed was increased, recovery time decreased, and two handed damage boosted on Colossals (jump attacks excluded from this). Something about guarding was added as well but I don't guard with them so I didn't read that part.
Anthracks 04.19.22	well that's good. it always felt like i needed one more moment to be able to recover during the later bosses
Scheumke 04.20.22	Yeah I actually respecced for Melania because she felt impossible with a zugzug strategy with ruins greatsword. It def needed some love, but I'm done with strenght now haha, time to play through NG+ with some different styles after doing almost a full runthrough with colossal twohanding.
Dedes 04.27.22	Started playing Elden Ring Doing a Faith/Intelligence run through Getting bodied by everything rn Reminder that I'm historically bad at most games
pjquinones747 04.27.22	Yooo i finally found the elden ring thread, sick. I'm about 120 hours in and level 190-something (about 50 or so of those came from The Bird). I'm RIGHT at the last boss and it is a bitch and a half so i'm about to grind through another few dozen levels so i can hopefully be prepared to finally finish this bitch.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.22	Was power stance damage buffed for colossal?
zaruyache 04.28.22	you gotta pump that VIG until you've got better spells to take the edge off. Also might wanna get the sword of night and flame since it scales with both int/faith.
beefshoes 05.13.22	Kinda mixed on the game by this point. The open world is easily the best I've ever explored, the lore is fantastic, and I absolutely love the areas and legacy dungeons, but goddamn are the bosses weak compared to DS1, 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro. The late-game is also too difficult for all of the wrong reasons because of balancing issues, particularly if you're only wanting to play solo without summons. Really disappointed by how little I've wanted to play the game over the last month compared to the other FromSoft games.
twlight 05.13.22	beat the game last week, 90 hr playthrough. masterpiece for sure. first game that i beat and immediately wanted to start a new playthrough, this time a mage... definitely requires retraining my playstyle from an up-close Dex build
Gyromania 05.13.22	"but goddamn are the bosses weak compared to DS1, 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro." i get this tbh, esp in regards to sekiro, which imo has their best bosses (bloodborne is close). there are still some incredible bosses though (mohg lord of blood, hoarah loux, radahn, rykard, placidusax, morgott)
BaselineOOO 05.13.22	Yes. This was the first From Software game I've finished then deleted and never looked back. It's so uninspired and full of bullshit at times, like the developers couldn't fully access their Japanese intellect.
CugnoBrasso 05.13.22	Loved Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne, hated the first couple of hours of DS2 (I ditched it). Should I get this?
Gyromania 05.13.22	definitely get this. and don't listen to baseline, he's just upset that he's so bad at the game. i'm certain he'll come back to this thread some day and say this game is a masterpiece
BaselineOOO 05.13.22	I still wonder at times why Gyromania has this sick, twisted, irrational fetish that one day I will come here and recognize this crappy game as some sort of a masterpiece. I'd rather play Demon's Souls on PS3 at 23 fps than waste my time with this distilled DS3 DLC called The Elden Ring.
MyColdShoulder 05.13.22	Honestly this game has a lot in common with DS2, especially when it comes to boss design. If that was the main issue for you there, you might not like this as well. But no hurt in trying, the world is pretty cool to explore
Dedes 05.13.22	@zaru Yeah I've been told that's a great later game option. Rn I have Winged Scythe and tbh it's my favorite weapon thus far. Great scaling/special attacks and bleed make it chunk relatively hard. Still I'm only lvl 65 and maybe a fourth through the game. Just got to the Radahn fight and whew lad it was so much more bonkers than I could have ever began to imagine
zaruyache 05.14.22	lol yeah he's nuts. I cheesed him on horseback tho so it wasn't as bad.
beefshoes 05.14.22	It's a master class in world design and atmosphere for sure. I've never experienced a game of this scale that was so consistently spectacular to explore, and I got a lot more enjoyment just running around looking for new places and scouring the legacy dungeons for loot than I did with the combat and bosses. A few of them are among FromSoft's bests, but most of them are average at best, and reused bosses definitely ruined immersion at times. The other games are more polished overall, and I hope that whatever they do next is a return to a more linear format focused on tighter level design and set pieces with fewer/no means of respecing
twlight 05.14.22	the game is very fun and allows a ton of different build options which i think is cool however, the game is VERY difficult try SEKIRO scrub
Gyromania 05.14.22	Respecing is just there for player convenience. You don't have to use it. I put this at third best fromsoft. Bosses could have been better in parts but w.e. I'm not touching it again until I get a PS5 tho. The framerate is so shit on PS4
twlight 05.14.22	well yes there are a lot of problems with the game, i dont think anyone here is saying it's perfect.
twlight 05.14.22	ive only played 3 Fromsoft games and i'd rank them as this ER = Sekiro = BloodBorne
CugnoBrasso 05.14.22	Has anybody played this on a standard PS4?
twlight 05.14.22	watched a friend play it, performance was mid a few patches have came out that stabilized the framerate across consoles. i think this is totally viable on ps4 but that's probably your last hurrah
Gyromania 05.14.22	as i just said, the framerate is abysmal on the ps4. totally lacking in smoothness, in many instances dropping well below 30 fps. drop distance is bad, tons of pop-in, enemies lag a lot off screen, occasional input delay in combat
CugnoBrasso 05.14.22	Well fuck it then, I'm not buying a new console. Back to not playing videogames.
DDDeftoneDDD 05.14.22	Bought it, idc...someday I ll install it
zakalwe 05.14.22	Sekiro levels of frustration now. Back in the 🗑
beefshoes 05.15.22	My ranking changes all of the time, but right now it's Elden Ring, DS2, DS1, DeS, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and DS3 in last. DS3 is the only one that feels mediocre at times (drab levels, issues with pacing, lack of identity), but it has phenomenal bosses, and the Ringed City DLC is amazing.
pizzamachine 05.15.22	Fuck I had to scroll for 2 hours to get here
demigod! 05.15.22	did any1 else binge this game to the point that they never want to look at it ever again or was it just me lol
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.15.22	Nah I’m with you. When dlc drops tho I’ll be right back in lol
Gyromania 05.15.22	Yeah, 195 hours spent in this game for 3 playthroughs. I haven't really been interested in playing again for over a month now. I hope the dlc is huge but not stuffed with shitty reskinned bosses
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.15.22	Ng+ was kind of a chore for me and I regret starting it before dlc
polyrhythm 05.18.22	I dunno I feel like going straight into NG+ in this game is kinda like finishing the last page of The Wheel Of Time and then starting at book one all over again. By all means, go for it, but some degree of fatigue is basically inevitable. Shit is gargantuan. I think it'll be like Witcher 3 for me, where I do a playthrough roughly once a year for the rest of my life
Dedes 06.13.22	Fighting Melania rn Definitely a step up from Malaketh and that was a wild fucking challenge even with summons. Think I'm gonna try to grind up to 150 and come back although tbh I just gotta learn how to dodge waterfowl attack
Anthracks 06.13.22	blows my mind my friend has been struggling with random bosses but beat malenia in four tries. his build has way less health and defense than mine when i fought her too, so i just don't get it. also, pre-ordered both future press guides. love the care that goes into their books, and 1,000 pages of elden ring just sounds so amazing even though i probably won't replay it other than to do the DLC
Mort. 06.13.22	honestly i beat godskin duo on my first try but malenia took like 10 or so attempts and in the end i only beat here due to a glitch (she had no health on her second phase) i was massively overleveled as well
polyrhythm 06.13.22	Beating Malenia solo no summons felt really good. I was lvl 130~ dualwielding colossal hammers. "I just gotta learn how to dodge waterfowl attack" As soon as she jumps into the air, sprint away. If you responded swiftly enough and weren't too close when she started the animation, you should outrun the first flurry no sweat. Roll into the second, and then stay still. She'll vault over you and you might get a tiny chip of damage, but then you're good
polyrhythm 06.13.22	Once you learn to reliably dodge Waterfowl Dance, Malenia becomes pretty manageable. It actually isn't an unfair fight at all, despite all the claims of her being broken. She has low poise, is weak to statuses like bleed and frost, and if you keep your distance she is super passive in phase 1. You can literally just run away to the far side of the arena and heal/buff to your heart's content, and she will pace towards you at like 0.01 mph. Her attacks are very easy to read and fairly easy to dodge (yes, that includes Waterfowl once you know how). Several of her attacks leave her wide open too Phase 2 she is arguably a bit too aggressive, leaving you little time to heal or catch your breath. I can see an argument for that being a bit unfair. Then again, many BB/ER/DS3 bosses are similarly relentless, and actually Malenia's scarlet bloom attack gives you like 15 seconds to chillax lmao Honestly an amazing fight. Right up there with Gael and Isshin for me
beefshoes 06.13.22	Malenia, Rykard and Radahn are all S-tier bosses. Definitely up there with legends like Allant, Artorias, Fume Knight, and Gael.
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	Malenia would be fine without the lifesteal on blocks. that's the only part of the fight that I think is utter inexcusable BS
Mort. 06.13.22	was malenia lifesteal glitched at one point? cos a few months ago when i was struggling to beat her (with summons), she would steal health every time one of us got his. was it supposed to be just on blocks?
polyrhythm 06.13.22	"Malenia, Rykard and Radahn are all S-tier bosses" Malenia is definitely S, though I'd put Rykard and Radahn under rock-solid A
JayEnder 06.13.22	Beat the game twice now, and wow what an experience. What went from brutal frustration and me nearly giving up to slowly realizing its a masterpiece. Maliketh and Radahn were definitely my S tier bosses. Malenia is amazing but fuck her anime flurry attack and lifesteal, had to cheese her with mimic tear and Rivers of Blood build idec, she seems like more of a Sekiro boss anyways so I figured katana vs. katana is only fair. Fuck Elden Beast tho. What a poorly designed final boss. Why the FUCK did we not get to use Torrent for that fight I'll never know. From must have forgotten and were too embarrassed to fix it.
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	"was malenia lifesteal glitched at one point? cos a few months ago when i was struggling to beat her (with summons), she would steal health every time one of us got his. was it supposed to be just on blocks?" idk if it was glitched per se but every time she made contact with you, she'd get health back, even if you blocked all of her damage from her attack which does not make any sense! I understand if you get hit *for damage* she steals HP, but that is not the case last time I played
Anthracks 06.13.22	wait some of these comments lead me to believe they removed malenia's life steal from blocks? or am i reading wrong?
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	that's the vibe I'm getting. I hope they did change that bc that is a textbook 'broken' aspect to her fight. I only beat her once, I started a second play through but deadass quit after reaching Maliketh because I hate the late game bosses
Dedes 06.13.22	Maliketh is super rewarding imo Took me legit like 4 or 5 hours but he has such a wonderfully nuanced attack pattern that forces you to be reactive rather than trying to read a combo
Dedes 06.13.22	Also GOAT bossfight is Godfrey/Hora Loux The way he just tosses aside all weapons and goes full UFC style brawl is fun as shit imo
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	Hora Loux is the best late game boss 100%
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	but overall once you reach Maliketh I felt that the sense of progression goes out the window because the damage is scaled up so high. I can understand why they did that, but it does ruin the end game for me. The first 3/4 of the game is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had
Mort. 06.13.22	i was so overlevelled by the late game that i beat godfrey on the first try so i really cant rate it as a boss fight. maliketh took maybe 3-4 tries and was super rewarding really excited to play again without doing literally fucking everything before moving on to the next area. also would be nice to do an actually good build (i was relying so heavily on just levelling vigour and letting my bloodhound fang do all the way). just didnt use the crafting system or really any items or buffs at all. stupid.
Mort. 06.13.22	also when i played it they hadnt fixed/fleshed out npc questlines, theres loads i still missed out on and i felt like i nearly did everything obvs wasnt the case tho cos theres still loads of trophies i dont have
JayEnder 06.13.22	Hoarah Loux was awesome yeah. Straight up WWE match lmao
RabbitInTheGround 06.13.22	The game is better when you know what you're looking for instead of exploring everything. Exploring to the fullest extent is fun the first time through, but I did have more fun just finding the stuff I needed for my build then immediately progressing
Gyromania 06.13.22	"Hora Loux is the best late game boss 100%" Without a doubt. He and Mohg, Lord of Blood are my picks
Gyromania 06.13.22	Maliketh feels like shit to fight, for me at least. Weird hitboxes, combos that feel too fast for the game at times, that mechanic of draining your health on top of doing stupid damage to you feels like bs. He's not Malenia levels of bs but he's clearly a bit overtuned. Godfrey, Mohg, and Placidusax are the best late game bosses by far imo
RabbitInTheGround 06.14.22	Yeah the HP drain on top of cutting a slice of max HP is too much. One or the other would be fine. I totally forgot about Placidusax, I had a lot of fun with that fight. The run back was a little dumb tho, I don't know why they couldn't have put a stake near the transport spot
JayEnder 06.14.22	RIGHT??? Running back to Placidusax was more annoying than the actual fight.
neekafat 06.14.22	Usually not my thing at all but Ive been loving this game
Gyromania 06.14.22	Yeah idk why there couldn't be a Marika stake there. Honestly I just want a boss rush mode more than anything. Well, that and new DLC. But like, the sekiro boss rush mode is literally just fighting the bosses in the arenas you fought them during the main game. It doesn't seem overly difficult for them to program, it should be an added feature for sure
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.14.22	I’ve seen a lot of people complain about the Placidusax commute. I don’t get it. Yeah I’d prefer not to have commutes at all but in the grand scheme of fromsoft games doesn’t even break the top like 30 worst boss commutes lmao. It’s like a 30 second jaunt.
zaruyache 06.14.22	i'm just now learning that there isn't a supposed to be a grace there until after you beat him, woops. Only fought him a few times but it's been nice just insta warping into the arena. Kinda hoping they didn't fix that in the patch so I'll have to check later tonight lol.
RabbitInTheGround 06.14.22	It is true compared to other run backs in the DS games the Placidusax run back is not bad, but the rest of the game spoils you into thinking that it is bad lol
Gyromania 06.14.22	It's certainly not as bad as some of the bosses in their games, but I get the argument that it is kind of tedious
JayEnder 06.14.22	If anything Elden Ring is much more lenient than other Souls games
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.14.22	the most tedious part of placidusax commute isn't the commute itself but rather waiting to skip the cutscene imo lmao "If anything Elden Ring is much more lenient than other Souls games" in some ways a lot of the bosses are much less lenient than the majority of dark souls bosses imo tho. not including sekiro lmao.
beefshoes 06.15.22	Agreed. Aside from Sekiro, these are the hardest bosses in the franchise if you're facing them without using summons.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	Yep
Deathconscious 06.15.22	I just beat High Lord Wolnir and it was weirdly really easy for a Soulsbourne boss, probably the first time ive ever beat one on the first try.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	There’s always an overly easy gimmick boss and an overly difficult gimmick boss lmao
rufinthefury 06.15.22	Elden Ring is by far the easiest and most accessible game in the series. Theres a reason it's hit broad mainstream appeal. I've discovered the joy of Dual Shields. New build lfg
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	And the reason it’s the easiest is because you have more freedom to take things on at your own pace and there are a tonne of mechanics that can pretty much kill bosses for you without you even touching your controller That doesn’t mean that the bosses are easy when you fight them fairly, and i don’t think you are dense enough to not understand this
twlight 06.15.22	i think the game is still very difficult, there are just more options then ever before in how you approach it, yeah mimic tear mixed with terra magica and comet azur can one shot a boss, but try Radahn with a base spear and it's the hardest game ever. 5/5
JayEnder 06.15.22	I applaud anyone who can beat the game without summons, there's no fucking way I could. Even with 70 vigor I was getting bodied by late game bosses in 2-3 hits on NG+ There's absolutely no room for error if you fight a boss solo, taking 100% of their aggro is just too much.
twlight 06.15.22	i beat the game first playthrough without summons i was also using bloodhounds fang pumped with dexterity stat but it wasn't easy, at all. End game areas/bosses fucked me up and there is a noticeable bump in difficulty when you get to those moments doing a second playthrough now, all Intelligence, Mind and Vigor and i will say it seems "easier" that way. This game must have been a bitch to balance, but they did an excellent job
pjquinones747 06.15.22	I constantly see this thread now and it makes me want to hop back in to beat Radagon/Elden Beast. I need to find another larval tear so I can respec back to STR/VIG/ARC and just cheese him. I got stuck on him with an INT build that couldn't dish enough damage due to his frenetic attack patterns so I've put the game down for months now stuck on the last fucking boss.
twlight 06.15.22	yeah Radagon will fuck you up... awesome boss TBH, great move set that takes a few times to learn and the music during that fight is epic. Elden Beast, i mean we can talk about that for days but it's not a good boss and a very anti climatic way to end the game, probably the worst part of the game.
pjquinones747 06.15.22	I couldn't get past Radagon and I don't like to spoil fights for myself so I don't even know why Elden Beast sucks. Is it because they made it too OP or is it too easy?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	“ think the game is still very difficult, there are just more options then ever before in how you approach it,” Yeah. The devs even said as much.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	This is the only fromsoft game I haven’t beaten without any summons
twlight 06.15.22	congrats, what do you think about elden beast Potts? cause i know youve been around the block when it comes to FromSoft games
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	Ehhhh it’s aesthetically pleasing to a degree but I think it’s a pretty underwhelming final boss. It’s difficult for all the wrong reasons which means for me that it’s just not that fun and I just kinda wanna plow through it. Radagon is by far the more compelling aspect of that fight for me
JayEnder 06.15.22	Radagon roughed me up BAD lmao.
twlight 06.15.22	(SPOILER) true, it looks cool but having to suffer through Radagon to get to the Beast is a bit much. part of the game that was not well designed.
twlight 06.15.22	although lore wise this game is on point. i liked how there are no Stake of Marikas, in Rennalas academy
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	I dislike multi boss fights like that in general, genichuro + sword saint x 2 is probably the least fun I’ve ever had fighting a boss in a fromsoft game. Aesthetically and conceptually great again, but simply not fun
DungeonBoy 06.15.22	I hated the Elden Beast so much. Honestly the game was amazing up until that Radagon Elden Beast fight. I haven't been following this thread, not sure if there is the whole summon/no summon, git gud fiasco in here, I played without summons though because I felt like they made the game too easy, but at the end the bosses are so stupidly aggro and timed to attack with your button inputs that it seems clear they were designed for summon help.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	That kind of shit just adds a layer of tedium that makes you not want to keep fighting them over and over again. You just want to get it over with.
DungeonBoy 06.15.22	pretty much yeah, it was more of a thank f'ing god, than a feeling of accomplishment
twlight 06.15.22	Sekiro is the most brutal with Genichiro and then what two? phases of sword saint? plus they add another (optional) boss with the Demon of Hatred in Sekiro where is becomes unfun i gave up when i got the that part of the game in Sekiro
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	At least with a boss like nameless king there is an easy gimmick to make the first phase extremely short. That’s the solution. Then it’s not so taxing.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	Fuck demon of hatred lmao. Only beat him once, and I cheesed him, don’t even care
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	There are a couple bosses like that in fromsoft history where my completionism is outweighed by my not having any fun at all
twlight 06.15.22	exactly, Demon of Hatred is a Bloodborne boss they put in Sekiro, i get why they did it story wise but youre basically playing a boss designed for Bloodborne with Sekiro mechanics, props to you for actually beating that Demon
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	No props deserved, if you saw the cheese I used you’d lol hard 😂
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	If you go through several very specific steps you can make him walk off the cliff to his death 😂
twlight 06.15.22	wait there is a cliff in the Demon of Hatred fight? heard what about those double gargoyles in Elden Ring? fuckin bad ass
DocSportello 06.15.22	I have now sunk appx 400 hours into Elden Ring and haven't regretted a single one Still only finished the game once tho and still finding new shit
twlight 06.15.22	what's your favorite area? i'd have to go with Volcano Manor, that place is menacing
JayEnder 06.15.22	Raya Lucaria Academy gang
DocSportello 06.15.22	Honestly my favorite area is the lush foggy patch of forest straight south of Goldmask's initial location –– the one with the Wormface miniboss. It's a small area but it's so perfectly tense and gorgeous
JayEnder 06.15.22	The Wormface area was straight out of a horror game lol. Creepiest enemy in the game next to the Abductor Virgins.
JohnnyoftheWell 06.15.22	saw a video of a guy who ran it only using items he could buy from merchants - didn't watch it, but am tempted to try it blind
twlight 06.15.22	yeah Raya Lucaria is a work of art, really cool when you play an Intelligence build those worm faces are disgusting, and annoying while playing... cool creature design tho as to be expected
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	Yeah there is a small cliff area. You have to run around the tree in a specific way to get him trapped there then jump from a very particular patch of grass onto one of the gun towers, then from there you have to jump at a very specific angle to get onto the ramparts and then walk along that to the cliff area past where demon is stuck and he will try to follow you and plummet to his death
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	Those dual gArgoyles were such a pain to solo. I had the best luck using that big rock in the back corner to keep them separated as best as possible.
twlight 06.15.22	bro its ridiculous. TWO OF THEM! that whole area is fucking cool tho, forgotten city underground still haent faced Mohg the Lord of Blood yet, cant find him
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.15.22	You either have to do captain white face’s quest and use an item he gives you or use a late game teleporter iirc
polyrhythm 06.16.22	"Godfrey, Mohg, and Placidusax are the best late game bosses by far IMO" I thought Maliketh, Malenia, and Radagon were way better. Straight up didn't enjoy the Godfrey fight. Mohg and Placidusax are both good fights, but nothing amazing Elden Beast? Beautiful and serene and dreamy enough for me to forgive the tedium of having to chase him around. And I dunno, the fact the fight is slower paced and protracted as a result kind of gives you time to soak in the bittersweet finality of it all, "this is the end"
polyrhythm 06.16.22	On god I had so much more of a sense of "fuck I can't wait for this to be over" fighting Godfrey than I did any other boss, Elden Beast included
Slex 06.16.22	Mohg fight is soooooo fucking fun, Maliketh n Mogh are definitely my fave late bosses
Trebor. 06.16.22	I wish this game wasn't so long. I got major burnout after 70 hours and haven't touched the game in over a month. It's hard for me to engage with anything for that long even if it's the best thing ever
JayEnder 06.16.22	Godfrey and Hoarah Loux was so much fun tho. Radagon and Elden Beast gave me a harder time than Margit when I was weak and underleveled.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.16.22	I don’t think Godfrey was great either. Honestly he seemed so overpowered I didn’t even have a desire to spend the time trying to solo him. I was just like “fuck it, mimic tear time”.
Slex 06.16.22	Radagon is annoying af but pretty cool but I loved the Elden Beast fight. Godfrey is aight
JayEnder 06.16.22	Elden Beast is a spectacle for sure but beyond the gorgeous scenery its just an annoying boss. Especially without Torrent.
Dedes 06.16.22	Godfrey? Strange, I felt he was the closest thing to a completely fair fight in Elden Ring aside from a select few bosses Radagon on the other hand is fucking whipping me and I ain't even near his 2nd stage lmao
JayEnder 06.16.22	Radagon's AoE attacks are such bullshit. Definitely one of the coolest bosses in the game though.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.16.22	When I say Godfrey what I mean is hoarah loux. First phase not so bad. Second phase is like “I don’t even want to learn how to solo you bro”
Dedes 06.16.22	I think it's a matter of switching playstyles Every body part is a weapon and should be treated accordingly. Arms, legs, chest, back. I'm surprised he doesn't just whip out his man meat and give you a good lashing tbh
beefshoes 06.16.22	Elden Beast is bullshit. They could have so easily added Torrent, and it's astonishing why they chose not to.
Gyromania 06.16.22	"I wish this game wasn't so long. I got major burnout after 70 hours and haven't touched the game in over a month. It's hard for me to engage with anything for that long even if it's the best thing ever" i do agree with this for the most part. there are some exceptions for me, and witcher 3 was one of them. and some games can be played for hundreds of hours without fatigue just based on their gameplay (like dead by daylight). but yeah this is basically the thing that holds me back from committing fully to most rpgs like final fantasy games, persona 5, etc. for elden ring, i loved it top to bottom my first playthrough but i got hit with fatigue in my second run. it doesn't seem to have the same degree of replayability as their other titles. i do prefer the smaller interconnected worlds but this game is still incredible. dlc will breathe new life into it, i'm sure
StormChaser 06.16.22	sekiro ftw
Gyromania 06.16.22	"I thought Maliketh, Malenia, and Radagon were way better. Straight up didn't enjoy the Godfrey fight. Mohg and Placidusax are both good fights, but nothing amazing" maliketh's speed feels out of place in this game, and his hitboxes are questionable to say the least, not to mention the first half of the fight blows ass. malenia is incredible but water fowl ruins the fight (and yes, i know this can be dodged from a certain distance, but if you're up close you're screwed), and radagon idk, i feel like i enjoy the aesthetics more than the actual fight. his insta-teleport damaging move is very stupid, and his delays and hyper armour make fighting him a bit of a chore sometimes. if the last boss was just him, i'd like it a lot more but elden beast just ruins it for me also godfrey is a ton of fun. jumping over his stomps and dodging his swings and grabs in phase 2 is rewarding
Gyromania 06.16.22	"sekiro ftw" yeah sekiro is from's best game without a doubt
Mort. 06.16.22	'I wish this game wasn't so long. I got major burnout after 70 hours and haven't touched the game in over a month. It's hard for me to engage with anything for that long even if it's the best thing ever' yeah its put me off replaying it. have been trying to platinum every fromsoft game on the ps4, only done dark souls remastered and bloodborne so far. elden ring is going to take me the longest just because i have to finish it twice more and i really cant be fucked
pjquinones747 06.17.22	Found another Larval Tear, respec'd to a Rivers of Blood build, defeated Radagon MUCH more easily than with any previous method, and got taken out in 15 seconds by Elden Beast. Not a fan!
pjquinones747 06.17.22	I think it can be had now. Just gotta work at it now.
zaruyache 06.17.22	i'm running an INT build and buffed my ARC just enough to use RoB and cheesed placidusax with it. whether that was more the weapon or just me learning the attack patterns idk, but moonveil hadn't been cutting it for me like that so all I know is bleed wep OP pls nerf.
pjquinones747 06.21.22	Found some helpful talismans and managed to beat Elden Beast finally! Now i'm going to try a faith build
JayEnder 06.21.22	Getting the plat for this seems like waaay too much of a chore. You literally need to collect everything in the game and questlines can be broken so easily. Fuck that. That reminds me, biggest criticism I have of the game. The quests are so unbelievably annoying bc of how vague they are and having absolutely no record of what you're supposed to be doing and what steps you've completed. I get the game doesn't want to hold your hand and makes you pay attention to NPC instructions but when one small thing I missed breaks the quest and I miss out on a Talisman, Incantation, etc. boom that's it. Gotta restart the whole game. (if I were going for the plat, I'm not anymore)
Mort. 06.21.22	nice. i just started my second run, fresh, not new game + went for the wretch class, decided to just pick up shit and sorta flow into a build. so far feeling the hookclaws, thinking of picking up some sorcerys or getting a good crossbow as well
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	beat Malenia, Blade of Miquella last night, no big deal
pjquinones747 06.21.22	fuck yeah, congrats that fight is insane
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	thanks man! took me hours and hours to beat her no summon, no bleed blade bologna, hoarfrost stomp, or whatever. Just used the ole Bloodhound Fang (which I literally used the entire game after picking it up) and mastered all her bullshit.
JayEnder 06.21.22	Yeah she's insane. Bleed build + mimic tear is the way. (if u suck like I do)
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	If that makes the game fun for you, that's what it's all about! Love the addition of summons for people who want to use it, and all my friends can finally play a From Soft game from start to finish.
JayEnder 06.21.22	Her waterfowl dance is just too much. If you're even somewhat near her when she does it you're cooked. Loved using it after I defeated her tho haha.
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	for sure! that was the hardest move to master. She consistently does the first one after a certain number of hits. The trick is to bait her to use it and book it to the other end of the screen, then the next two hits are easier to dodge left, then towards her. Got to the point where I could dodge it almost every time, and get to her 2nd phase with almost full health using no flasks. But then phase 2 just absolutely ripped me apart again and again. That stupid move where she ascends upward and summons the spirits that chase you was unbearable, and the way her wings made it near impossible to read her next moves was absolutely infuriating.
pjquinones747 06.21.22	I haven't tried Malenia since I respecc'd into a bleed build. May give that another shot.
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	I feel so empty after beating her. Do we have a support group thread?
pjquinones747 06.21.22	Not yet. Looks like destiny is calling you DungeonBoy
JayEnder 06.21.22	That's how I felt after beating Elden Beast. Not even a sense of accomplishment just a resounding "thank god that's over" lol. Also can we talk about how much Haligtree fucking sucks?
pjquinones747 06.21.22	Haligtree was a fuckin asshole to get through. Sticking envoys on branches like that is just evil.
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	It sucks so much, my favorite is recycling the minor erdtree bosses as normal enemies.
JayEnder 06.21.22	Yep. On top of the fucking ants. Had an absolutely miserable time there, you literally need to one shot everything or you're screwed. Not even remotely fun or rewarding. I can't believe I even found my way to Malenia in the first place lol. The cleanrot knights too... Ugh. Oh, and don't even get me started on that area that spawns FOUR REVENANTS. LIKE REALLY FROMSOFT?????
pjquinones747 06.21.22	I fuckin hate every variation of knights in Elden Ring.
DungeonBoy 06.21.22	Nothing like getting absolutely ganked by a mob of crystalians
Gyromania 06.22.22	"I feel so empty after beating her. Do we have a support group thread?" yeah it wasn't like beating gael or sword saint. i felt so good after completing those fights. with malenia it was more of "thank god i'm done that dogshit fight now i can get back to enjoying the game"
brainmelter 06.22.22	yea I got really good rng when I beat her, she only used waterfowl twice. funny how she has both the worst and coolest boss moves in the game (the coolest is when she throws butterfly phantoms of herself at you)
Gyromania 06.22.22	yeah i love her visual design and that move you're talking about is one of my favourites. i think she could be a contender for top 10 best From bosses but waterfowl ruins the fight for me. people always tell me "you can dodge it" but the criteria for that is fkn stupid. yes you can guaranteed dodge it most of the time... if you're already 40 feet away from her when she does it. if you're up close when she does it, it's luck based.
Mort. 06.22.22	'just used the ole Bloodhound Fang (which I literally used the entire game after picking it up) and mastered all her bullshit.' loool same did my whole first run with that, extremely good weapon
Dedes 06.22.22	Dual scythes will always be GOAT for me Love the weapon art on Winged Scythe still although Halo Scythe can be better for bosses you wanna put distance between.
DungeonBoy 06.22.22	Hell yeah Mort. "if you're up close when she does it, it's luck based." If you're up close it's game over man, part of dodging it is learning when in the fight she uses it and how to bait it. I actually had to equip the right armor and talismans to be able to survive the first hit, until I learned the pattern.
pjquinones747 06.22.22	Started a new character with intention to do a Faith build. Any recommendations?
RabbitInTheGround 06.22.22	get the Golden Halberd then wreck shit
pjquinones747 06.22.22	that's what the tree sentinel drops yeah?
JayEnder 06.22.22	Bloodhound's Fang is awesome yeah. Ran with that thing the entire game until I got Rivers of Blood lol. That invincibility frame you get during the following attack when you go invisible is so cheese.
RabbitInTheGround 06.22.22	yep the first one in Limgrave drops it
pjquinones747 06.22.22	hell yeah totally doin that. a lot of the good weapons ive read up on arent findable until you've gotten considerably far into the game and i totally spaced on the golden halberd
DungeonBoy 06.22.22	Jay Ender, looks like you got the 2000th comment on here, thank Radagon it went to an Elden Lord, and not some lowly tarnished.
polyrhythm 06.23.22	"yeah it wasn't like beating gael or sword saint. i felt so good after completing those fights. with malenia it was more of "thank god i'm done that dogshit fight now i can get back to enjoying the game"" Disagree, I felt amazing once I had beaten her. Top 3 From Soft boss, right up there with Gael and Sword Saint (the undisputed #1)
Mort. 06.23.22	'That invincibility frame you get during the following attack when you go invisible is so cheese.' yeah i spent the whole game spamming the fuck out of Bloodhound Fang's art of war. brilliant move, super useful
pjquinones747 06.24.22	Finally tried Malenia again with RoB and cheesed her even harder than Radagon/EB. Did NOT think that would be the easier fight of the two.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.24.22	Fuck sword saint
BaselineOOO 06.24.22	Pots, wanna play the seamless co-op mod together sometimes? Maybe you'll get to like me if you meet me better?
climactic 06.24.22	Just beat godskin duo, some of the bosses in this game are fuckin annoying
Gyromania 06.24.22	"If you're up close it's game over man, part of dodging it is learning when in the fight she uses it" Can't be done. I've had rounds where she uses it within 15 seconds and others where it takes entire minutes. I've even had cycles where she doesn't do it. And then other runs where she does it 3 times within a minute. There is no consistency to that move
polyrhythm 06.25.22	"Fuck sword saint" Yes, but lovingly. Best video game boss ever
Mort. 06.25.22	can really tell i was mad overleveled on my first run this second run im skipping past loads of the optional content and now bosses that took me 1 try are taking 3-4 tries, or im actually having to go away and farm runes/do optional content to level up/use spirit summons more heavily
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	I could see someone who is good at sekiro liking sword saint. As someone who is bad at sekiro I can admire the atmosphere of the fight etc but I don’t actually have any fun fighting him in any capacity.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	I also understand when people call sekiro fromsofts best game but due to being shit at it it’s probably one of my least favourites from a gameplay perspective lmao. It’s the only one I haven’t beaten (again, fuck sword saint) and it’s the only one I haven’t had any desire to play more than once
Mort. 06.25.22	yeh ive finished sekiro once and have barely any desire to go back to it. getting into the whole mindset to play it is too much
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	“ Just beat godskin duo, some of the bosses in this game are fuckin annoying” Seen a video where a dude beats Elden ring with one shots (one hit per phase) and he literally just puts them to sleep with some weapon art or spell or item or something and kills them one at a time while they just sit there lmao
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	@mort the most annoying thing about not beating sekiro and having no desire to grind sword saint for hours and hours until I do is that I went through the trouble of unlocking the most complicated ending and now I’ll never even see it I know I could just YouTube the endings but it’s not the same
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	Literally all the got me through sekiro is the fact that you can juuust barely scrape by most of the bosses playing the game like it’s bloodborne if you are patient enough Every boss where you actually have no choice but to use the games poise and parrying mechanics etc was such a hurdle for me. I’m just not fast enough anymore.
Mort. 06.25.22	'Literally all the got me through sekiro is the fact that you can juuust barely scrape by most of the bosses playing the game like it’s bloodborne if you are patient enough' totally agree. the way i had to play it was by sticking to what i knew. so i didnt really any of the prosthetics other than shurikens cos they were nice and straightforward and sorta familiar/similar enough to throwables in soulsborne. then it was just getting into the zone so i could dodge quickly and read moves/learn patterns watching videos of people chaining moves and prosthetics together on sekiro blows my mind, my skill level is so far beneath the highest level of that game
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	Same. I barely used any prosthetics. I just ran circles around every boss and zipped in for a butt poke whenever there was an opening (which on some bosses was painfully infrequently lmao) and then got the fuck out of dodge. It’s crazy what you can do in that game, I just can’t do it 😂
Mort. 06.25.22	'I just ran circles around every boss and zipped in for a butt poke whenever there was an opening (which on some bosses was painfully infrequently lmao) and then got the fuck out of dodge. It’s crazy what you can do in that game, I just can’t do it 😂' lol yep, literally my tactic for the headless ape and sword saint once i dont have much health or any revives left. sprint about and then whittle their health down slowly. cant disparage it if it works
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	Fighting headless ape that way was SUCH a pain in the ass hahaha. Did it work? Absolutely? Was it efficient? Not so much 😂
Mort. 06.25.22	yeah thats one of my least fav boss fights across the whole soursborne/sekiro franchise just because of how fucking long it can be if i want to have a good chance at succeeding
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	Did you manage to beat demon of hatred? I did, but even my bloodborne tactics didn’t work for him. Had to cheese him off the cliff lol.
Mort. 06.25.22	oh yeah i did but it took hours and hours and hours and multiple attempts. didnt cheese it, but i fucking hated the whole thing and he destroyed me many times. stupid boss fight tbh. tryning to platinum elden ring at the moment, got to finish it twice more, beat fortissax and placidusax (or whatever their names are, the two dragons) and do all the 'acquire all legendary....' trophies.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.25.22	Lmao yeah I wasn’t having fun fighting him after several hours so I just cheesed Those are two of the funnest fromsoft dragon fights imo, and it’s nice that they are actually fair unlike most of them
Mort. 06.26.22	holy fucking shit i just beat fortissax on my first try im so hyped
Mort. 06.26.22	that was an amazing fight, won by spamming the shit out of moonveil katanas art of war, mimic tear spirit summon, used all 9 of my estus flasks, was so close to dying so many times 10/10 fight fully deserved to lose
Mort. 06.26.22	how the fuck do i lose to draconic tree sentinel like 5 times in a row then beat this scary red lighting dragon first time?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.26.22	Fuck yeah, that was honestly one of the funnest boss fights in the game for me. Since it’s intuitive to stay underneath a lot of dragons and hack at their back legs I enjoy that in this fight you were forced to constantly leave your safe zone to avoid the lightning etc. everything about that fight was very well balanced for a fromsoft dragon fight.
Mort. 06.26.22	yeah honestly i was spamming moonveils art of war underneath its legs and then just trying to tank the lightning damage. was purely a fight against time, if i hadnt spammed the shit out of that move nor had mimic to take some aggro it would have been a completely different story
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.26.22	Haha it’s actually pretty easy to avoid the lightning, as soon as you see it accumulate on your body you have a couple seconds to just start moving away from him and then dodge out of it
Dedes 06.26.22	Beat Elden Beast Took me approximately 200 attempts and 8 or 9 hours of game play Time for new game Dex/Strength build!
JayEnder 06.26.22	Holy shit Dedes 🤣 Radagon and Elden Beast were brutal for sure, I got so unbelievably lucky with Elden Beast... No flasks left, one hit from death and I somehow dodged his dumb lightning ring attack for the win. Actually screamed when I beat him.
Purpl3Spartan 06.26.22	Game hard agreed
zaruyache 06.26.22	respec'd to rivers of blood for malenia because i have no shame nor patience. finally she'd dead, now i can undo the frenzied flame i accidentally'd myself.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.26.22	Frenzied flame is sick yo
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.26.22	Melina is the Starbucks of Elden ring waifus anyway
JayEnder 06.26.22	Corpse Piler is literally the most OP skill in the entire game
pjquinones747 06.26.22	2 things. 1. Just got Sekiro. Game hard or I'm shit, probably some degree of both. 2. Started NG+ on Elden Ring with my Rivers of Blood build and it isn't even remotely a challenge even with heightened enemy difficulty.
Mort. 06.26.22	lol i only beat malenia cos my game glitched, she had no health when the second phase started
Mort. 06.26.22	'1. Just got Sekiro. Game hard or I'm shit, probably some degree of both. 2. Started NG+ on Elden Ring with my Rivers of Blood build and it isn't even remotely a challenge even with heightened enemy difficulty.' yeah games hard and i havent even tried rivers of blood yet, does seem a tad op
JayEnder 06.26.22	It is lol. NG+ with it is easy mode until you reach Leyndell. Maybe even Mt. Gelmir. Those fucking crucible knights will getcha tho
Purpl3Spartan 06.26.22	I'll beat this game one day also just got sekiro, seems really cool!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.26.22	“ Started NG+ on Elden Ring with my Rivers of Blood build and it isn't even remotely a challenge even with heightened enemy difficulty.” Ng+ is super easy… until it isn’t
pjquinones747 06.27.22	"Those fucking crucible knights will getcha tho" I fuckin hate the knights man I avoid them like the plague "Ng+ is super easy… until it isn’t" i expect ill have some trouble once ive finished the capitol and try the subterranean shunning grounds that i missed on my first run
Colton 06.27.22	bought a whole ps5 just for this game but then stopped playing in like march cause of school and haven't touched it since :/
pjquinones747 06.27.22	That's a damn shame. Good that you allow yourself to focus on school tho! Somethin i coulda used more of lol
Gmork89 06.27.22	Demon of Hatred is almost worse than Malenia id say, I def got more angry with Demon of Hatred.
Mort. 06.27.22	yeh fuck demon of hatred, doesnt make sense as a sekiro boss (tho i get they were trying to give you a challenge)
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.27.22	As much of a pain as malenia is I still like her as a boss I do not like anything about demon of hatred
zaruyache 06.28.22	"Melina is the Starbucks of Elden ring waifus anyway" not even that, i owe ranni for giving me the big moon sword ;__;
JayEnder 06.28.22	Millicent gang
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.28.22	Ranni is deffs top bae Then Fia then Millicent
Mort. 06.28.22	no the top bae is the big tortoise pope
Dedes 06.28.22	Bae is Alexander
pjquinones747 06.28.22	Death mommy Fia for life
Mort. 06.30.22	one thing im realising on this second playthrough is that leyndell is massive, bigger than i remember. i find it easy to get lost in even though its probably just bigger than it really is in my head still one of the best areas theyve ever made even if the enemies are a bit lacking
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.30.22	Death mommy of hugs
JayEnder 06.30.22	Fuck Fia, she killed my homie D. Unforgivable.
Dedes 07.01.22	D killed my homie Fia On the contrary, D can get fucked.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.01.22	Fia can catch this d
pjquinones747 07.01.22	Just discovered that larval tears respawn when you begin a new journey so the fun on my main character has completely been revitalized. Gonna go collect incantations and run a fun faith build.
zaruyache 07.02.22	200 hrs in i am finally elden lord, or ranni's consort, cutscene kinda vague.
Mort. 07.02.22	200 hours???? jesus man did you get lost somewhere
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.02.22	Lmao
zaruyache 07.02.22	I like going slow and trying to absorb the sights in something like this lol and I tried to explore every inch of the map, but idk how it actually bloated to that length. waiting to connect for an invasion also meant I'd wander around for ages while waiting to pvp
Mort. 07.02.22	fair enough, its just my first playthrough i explored a shit ton as well and it was like 75 hours although i did resort to some guides and also stopped taking in the sights after a while. i always start games thinking 'maybe this time i wont turn into a zombie hardwired to cut a straight line to the next objective barely registering the surroundings' but it always ends up that way. its partly one of the reasons im sort of reticent to think of most video games as art. theyre simply not experienced in the same way a lot of art is.
SIMBOLIC 07.03.22	Got about ten hours on my first play through and had to stop cause I didn’t have the time, a few months ago. Just started a new one yesterday and oh my fuck it’s better than I remember. Dual blood scimitars, it’s like blood borne all over again (blood borne is the only fromsoft game I played beforehand)
Mort. 07.03.22	have fun man, prepare for the game to just keep on going when you thought it was about to end lol
Mort. 07.03.22	just tried placidusax for the first time, managed to get 4/5s of its health down, got run out of estus flasks and got wrecked. bit of a mental boss tbh
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.03.22	He’s intense but he’s fair imo
Mort. 07.03.22	yeah beat it second try, was challenging but definitely fair. finished my second playthrough, now have to try and finish my 3rd on new game plus doing he frenzied flame ending mad how quick the game is when you just skip loads of shit. went straight to Godrick then Rennala, got to Leyndell within an hour
Dedes 07.03.22	@zaru That's how much i logged in about before getting to Elden Beast. Best of luck brother, imo Radagon is a nightmare and a half. Elden Beast isn't bad but he get's p nuts at like 1/3rd of his health.
Mort. 07.03.22	only bosses i bother summoning real people in for are radagon and elder beast. so much easier when theres 3 people
Mort. 07.03.22	holy shit ng+ is easy as hell with black knife tiche. ive managed to get to the end in like 5 or so hours. just have to beat the final boss and ive got the frenzied flame ending and then have platinumed the game
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.04.22	Black knife tiche is hard af
Mort. 07.04.22	yeah but ive just learnt u cant use spirit ashes for radagon/elden beat and now im getting my ass beat 10 times in a row because the people i summon suck (and i suck)
Mort. 07.04.22	and now im out of rune arcs ahhhhhhhh fuck this boss
zaruyache 07.04.22	why can't you use spirit ashes? I only beat radagon because of mimicbro
Mort. 07.04.22	googled it and its because i was using furled finger remedies each time to see if there was anyone to summon. that turns off your own spirit ashes. basically i shot myself in the foot multiple times anyways doesnt matter now, managed to do it with no rune arcs by summoning two sweatlords who barely took any damage. ng+ done and platinum trophy achieved. will not be playing this again for a long time
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.04.22	Yeah I was gonna say, u definitely can
Mort. 07.10.22	playing ds2:softs at the moment and i have a lot of conflicted feelings about it. on the one hand, its the dark souls formula i know and love. on the other hand, its a clunky piece of shit with irritating areas and enemy placement, shitty hitboxes and some of the longest runbacks in the series. just got to the endgame and need to do the dlcs for the first time ever and darklurker.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Have you played the original because pretty much everything you just complained about is worse in that one lol I love ds2 personally, thoroughly enjoyed both versions
ConcubinaryCode 07.11.22	SotFS is actually a different game from the og vanilla version, I know a few vets actually say it's an unkind first playthrough without knowledge of the og but they did switch up a lot.
Mort. 07.11.22	yeah i played the original on 360 but honestly dont remember much about it, it was so long ago now i do enjoy it, and i still think its a good game, id just rate it bottom of the soulsborne+sekiro series. so much of it just seems designed as a 'fuck you'. although i will admit you level up ridiculously quickly at the beginning, plus you can skip so many enemies if you know what youre doing. also, the vast majority of the bosses are piss easy. i fought Aldia for the first time a few hours ago and beat him on my second try with ease. was expecting a lot more. the hardest enemies are in the game are all the ones that just stagger the shit out of you relentlessly. jesus christ the phantoms in the pilgrims of the dark chasms, one of them has a rapier and can literally just stunlock you. also, having to run through and do a set of phantoms again when you want to fight darklurker? moronic
Gyromania 07.11.22	i used to defend the hell out of dark souls 2 but it's fromsoft's weakest game by a mile from demon's souls-on. there's a lot to like in it but the world is pretty average and adapability is the dumbest thing they've ever added and just breaks the game since you can't balance around players either having enough i-frames or not based on a stat. their weakest suite of bosses too. i did enjoy some of the pvp stuff though, and i did enjoy some areas like the iron keep, i just think the density of enemies in the levels is overkill at times
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Never seen you do anything but complain about ds2 bruh
Gyromania 07.11.22	only in the last year after i went through all of fromsoft's games again leading up to the release of elden ring. there are several threads on sputnik where i defended ds2 at length. i used to consider it their best game but after learning more about how the systems work within their games and spending a lot more time with all of them, had to change my mind
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Haha nah bruh we’ve talked about ds2 many times over the years and I’ve always been the one defending it
Gyromania 07.11.22	lol i promise you there are threads where i've defended the absolute shit out of that game. one thread in particular where i think it was maybe snox who was shitting on it and we had a back and forth of like thousands of words about it
Mort. 07.11.22	' i just think the density of enemies in the levels is overkill at times' yeah im surprised you enjoy iron keep but also recognise this issue because honestly i cant stand that area because of fighting those same knights every few feet
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Ugh talking to snox about video games was infuriating
Gyromania 07.11.22	lol mort it's funny because i had that same thought as i was writing that, but i just love the actual level layout itself and i don't hate the enemies i just hate how many there are and how screwed you become if you aggro more than 2 at a time haha yeah i don't think i've ever been more pissed off than when i used to talk about games with snox. i actually forgot the dude even existed until i just made that connection to ds2
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Trying to clear out iron keep is exhausting. And it’s so hard to spot them all. Every time you think ur finished and can start trotting on like 3 more pop up
ConcubinaryCode 07.11.22	"i just hate how many there are and how screwed you become if you aggro more than 2 at a time" Situations like this are the memory I hold most clearly about the game. And the area that's filled with mages and water where you can just fall off if you don't walk carefully.
Gyromania 07.11.22	shrine of amana. one of the most dogshit fromsoft levels imo
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Honestly on one hand I really love shrine of amana as long as I can get through it in one life lol As soon as I die I then hate shrine of amana
Gyromania 07.11.22	the worst part for me is actually in that cave with all those things that break your shit. if i'm not a caster build getting through there is just tedious as fuck.
Mort. 07.11.22	yeah i did shrine of amana yesterday and fucking hated it. that bit after the cave with the things that break your shit is also awful. makes you drop into a circular area with water and edges you can fall off while an npc invades you as your getting hounded by mages and shit. despicable
trilo 07.11.22	lol yeah shrine of amana is the friggin worst i never know what to make of ds2. sometimes i love it sometimes i absolutely hate it. did like the dlc quite a bit tho
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	I always just shoot those things with arrows
Mort. 07.11.22	one thing ive only just noticed that i sort of hate about ds2 is the fact your not invincible while doing backstabs (and parrying i imagine but i dont know cos i dont parry on this one) sort of just sucks tbh
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Are YOU invincible while you do backstabs????
Gyromania 07.11.22	i think the backstabs in ds2 just feel like shit in general so i rarely ever do them. the positioning for it is super awkward at times. tbf tho i feel the same way about demons souls and dark souls
Mort. 07.11.22	god i wish i was invincible while i did backstabs
Mort. 07.11.22	god i wish i could beat darklurker
Gyromania 07.11.22	he's honestly not worth fighting
Mort. 07.11.22	it would just be nice because other than one boss in ds3 i never got round to (maybe uhh nameless king? cant remember the name) its the only non dlc boss ive never done. on like attempt 4 now and honestly, sorta sick of it already. always die once i get it down to 1/3 health
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	I’ve played through ds2 three times and only fought darklurker once. Fuck that shit. Only boss I’ve skipped otherwise lol
Gyromania 07.11.22	yeah i can see why that would bother you; i too have made sure to fight every single boss in all of their games. it made me mad as hell trying to kill those stupid king's pets in ds2 frozen eleum loyce due to that like 15 min trek back every time i died
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.11.22	Lmao fuck those guys too I skipped them in my first run as well actually, after getting sick of that commute (probably my all time least fav) but I beat them in my second and third
beefshoes 08.10.22	Any thoughts on the latest patch?
pjquinones747 08.10.22	I haven't been on since the latest patch. What's new? Also may this thread never die
climactic 08.10.22	they nerfed rivers of blood and bloodhound step
zaruyache 08.11.22	they made easymode less ez, and pvp trash mode less trash, is gud
climactic 08.11.22	yes long overdue, nothing worse than matching up in pvp with a BHS spam dweeb
zaruyache 08.11.22	they'll have to learn to pvp now O:
WatchItExplode 08.11.22	Who cares about katanas? Grab a hand ax and fart on your enemies
necropig 09.05.22	My elden ring vinyl collection arrived today. It owns
beefshoes 09.06.22	Anyone check out the comedy manga yet?
DocSportello 09.11.22	Currently doing a sloooooowwww run trying to exploit the game as much as I can, leveling up very sparingly (I'm at lv 23 rn, almost 24 hrs in) and making sure to keep my weapons under-leveled. Exploring each area fully before advancing. No rush, just an obsessively calculated play-through in a way I've never done with a Souls game, aiming for my perfect PvPvE build. I will not move beyond Leyndell until DLC releases. Suddenly Elden Ring is fun again
Mort. 09.11.22	sounds good. im playing dark souls 3 at the moment, trying to get every miracle/pyromancy/sorcery/gesture/ring so i can platinum the game. havent played it in a long time so its been good. need to beat the nameless king as well
DocSportello 09.19.22	oh man it takes *so long* to plat ds3, easily the most annoying plat of the modern from games for me
pjquinones747 09.19.22	I can't wait for there to be DLC so I can wait it out and make a new character after having lost all muscle memory to re-explore every crevice of the lands between. When dat DLC drop doe
Mort. 09.19.22	'oh man it takes *so long* to plat ds3, easily the most annoying plat of the modern from games for me' ds2 seems pretty painful as well tbh. gave up on that because i was sort of sick of the game. but yeah i managed to get all sorceries, need to start ng+ and can get all gestures pretty easily. need to complete sirris' questline to get all rings. need to do moundmakers and sunbros to get all miracles and pyromancies i think which is the real ballache. fucking 1% verterbra shackle drops from those two skeletons. would do it from pvp but i fucking suck at pvp. might wait for a friend to get the game and try to cheese it with them
DocSportello 09.19.22	The quickest way to farm these items is in pvp honestly. I am not a pvp god, but I found that even still you have a muuuuuuuchhh higher chance of getting what you need from invasions than from farming enemies. It's also more thrilling this way
DocSportello 09.19.22	oh yeah ds2 is painful but for a distinct reason (the gameplay lmao)
Mort. 09.19.22	yeah ive already farmed for the aldrich covenant and the rosalia's fingers which didnt take too long but getting 30 fucking vertebra shackles for mound makers seems like it will take a horrendously long amount of time. but i can barely win a single pvp battle. might have to do some research and make a sweaty OP pvp build.
Mort. 09.19.22	and yeah ds2 has some cool ideas but the core gameplay is just bad, its simply not fun to play. makes combat feel like a chore
DocSportello 09.19.22	mound maker invasions are more doable with the average build when you have multiple invaders. i remember slogging thru these stretches by sitting down with a goal of getting 5 shackles at a time. could usually do it within an hour. a decent background activity while you're listening to something or whatever. assembling a disgustingly OP pvp build helps too ;) I really wanted to love ds2. It really *does* have some of the best ideas in the whole franchise (and great pvp). Too bad it has atrocious execution and hates you
Mort. 09.19.22	lol yeah ive been grinding while listening to albums or educational youtube videos, will just have to stick with it and try some pvp again
brainmelter 10.24.22	using envoy's long horn in pvp is fucking hilarious, its rolling light swing is surprisingly great. im not in the loop for whats meta really, I thought the cross naginata was niche and o boy was I wrong, everyone and their grandmother uses that ting.
pjquinones747 12.10.22	armored core vi looks sick as fuck and i'll probably get it even if i suck at it but......i still really need that elden ring dlc.....coliseum barely counts lol
widowslaugh123 12.10.22	I’m like 50 hrs into this game and I have no idea what’s going on
zaruyache 12.10.22	you'll figure it out in another 100 hrs gl
widowslaugh123 06.25.23	Anyone got tips for elden beast? I can mostly beat Radagon consistently but I usually die to elden beast with like around half its health left
JohnnyoftheWell 06.25.23	what's your build?
zaruyache 06.25.23	make sure you have 50 vig and the holy resist talisman at a minimum.
zakalwe 06.25.23	I’ve done this twice now. Not in the same league as Dark Souls or Bloodbourne
widowslaugh123 06.25.23	Johnny I think I’m a quality build? I’m still pretty dumb when it comes to these games I got like 50 or so strength and 40 or so dexterity. Probably around 45 vigor and 50 stamina. Started as a samurai so I got the fully upgraded katana which I mostly used but I also got a fully upgraded zamor sword and the serpent killer or whatever and the rotten staff which I’ve been digging lately. I’m soul level like 150-160 I’ve been playing this game for over a year haha I’ve got like 170 hours in and like 20-25 of those hours are on Radagon/elden beast. Had no idea what was going on for the first like 80-90 hours. I’m pretty sure I just suck but if you got tips and tricks let me have em
widowslaugh123 06.26.23	Ok I played the final boss for like 3 hours straight but I am elden lord motherfuckers
Gyromania 06.26.23	I think this is their least replayable game, for me at least. Still excited for that dlc tho
climactic 06.26.23	Agreed, I’ve had no desire to return to ER. bloodborne, ds3, and sekiro are all super replayable. Also finally playing the ds1 remaster. ds1, despite its flaws has a magic atmosphere that none of their other games have truly captured
zaruyache 06.27.23	I don't get the replayability argument tbh. This is probably their least linear game and biggest, so there are objectively the most routes you can choose to go on any run, and you can straight up ignore main dungeons/bosses if you want to.
necropig 02.20.24	DLC trailer out tomorrow, pog
Purpl3Spartan 02.20.24	Finally lol
Dewinged 02.20.24	Oh man... can't wait!
Dedes 02.21.24	Sweet lord yes Afaik they're gonna explore The Badlands probably which has me mad stoked
zaruyache 02.21.24	tearing the skin off my face let's fgucking go
zaruyache 02.21.24	badlands leak was fake, it was part of a fake poster
Colton 02.21.24	hopefully DLC matches the quality off the first 2/3 of the game and not the much worse final 1/3
zaruyache 02.21.24	dlcs consistently great from them so i'm not really worried but yeah agreed.
JayEnder 02.21.24	OH SHIT FINALLY. Can't wait for the Scarlet Rot swamp crawling with Revenants. I'm sure Miyazaki will be fair and forgiving with this DLC
twlight 02.21.24	Think we’ll get a release date?
zaruyache 02.21.24	typically we do. the Ringed City dlc announcement included the release date and it was announced just two months beforehand, so we very well could get a date.
necropig 02.21.24	Apparently June 21st
Slex 02.21.24	Source? Edit: nvm you were right That trailer was unfathomably based
Dewinged 02.21.24	Downloading the game again. Fuck. FUCK.
Purpl3Spartan 02.21.24	Trailer looks awesome
twlight 02.21.24	looks good, apparently the game is larger than the Limgrave area, 10 new major bosses and 8 new weapon TYPES
Gyromania 02.22.24	The 8 new weapon types thing is wild. If it is actual types like longswords, rapiers, etc., then I think it’s safe to say we can expect A LOT of new weapons. As for the bosses, I hope the 10+ are all brand new and not just a reskin or gank fight. I’m stoked tho; I have complete faith in From to deliver something as legendary as the base game
zaruyache 02.22.24	i'm so beyond hype, this looks painfully cool in about every way lol. I want that hippo incantation so godam bad ahhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHH HIPPO TIME
Slex 02.22.24	LFG
JayEnder 02.22.24	Frothing at the mouth rn

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