ArsMoriendi: 10 Favorite VU Studio Tracks

ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	Nothing from Loaded, but if anyone is wondering, my fave from that is "Rock & Roll" and it'd prob make a top 15
Ryus 08.05.21	nice mine would prob look somethin like 1. venus in furs 2. sister ray 3. lady godivas operation 4. candy says 5. i heard her call my name 6. all tomorrows parties 7. murder mystery 8. sunday morning 9. femme fatale 10. wl/wh
Ryus 08.05.21	kinda shocked you dont have venus in furs here actually seems like the type of tune youd like
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	"Venus in Furs" is great, it was in the running and prob would make top 15 with "Rock & Roll", "What Goes On" "Beginning to See the Light" and uh maybe...."Who Loves the Sun"? In fact quick extend: 11. "Beginning to See the Light" 12. "Venus in Furs" 13. "Rock & Roll" 14. "What Goes On" 15. "Who Loves the Sun"
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	Swap 10 for Venus in Furs, add I Heard Her Call My Name, Pale Blue Eyes and maybe all Tomorrow's Parties if feeling generous and this is pretty much all the VU anyone needs. Good list
porcupinetheater 08.05.21	Fuck yeah top 2 are 2, only big change’d be the rest of the top 6 is the rest of White Light
fogza 08.05.21	The gift has no replay value, sorry :P
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	accurate but still iconic
fogza 08.05.21	LMAO After Hours at no 4, like wtf all tomorrows parties is one of the greatest songs of the 60's.
conesmoke 08.05.21	Heroin, it's wife, and it's my life m// Probs followed by all tomorrow's parties, femme fatale, Venus in furs and pale blue eyes
fogza 08.05.21	I could get with that ranking
porcupinetheater 08.05.21	If The Gift has no replay value, then how come I keep replayin it?
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	must have been someone knockin on a deer skull somewhere in the studio
porcupinetheater 08.05.21	Hey jonny check Hell Songs
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	that is a disgusting thing !
fogza 08.05.21	"If The Gift has no replay value, then how come I keep replayin it?" I dunno to be honest :-(. there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in my philosophy
WeepingBanana 08.05.21	Gotta have What Goes On
Pheromone 08.05.21	candy says / sister ray / the gift / pale blue eyez / lady godiva n maybe some stuff off the nico album
Ryus 08.05.21	lady godiva seems underrated, one of my favs for sure
WeepingBanana 08.05.21	Haven’t listened to Loaded or their live/comp stuff in forever but we’re all in agreement s/t is best right?
fogza 08.05.21	My fave is The Velvet Underground & Nico.
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	White Light/White Heart > The Velvet Underground & Nico > The Velvet Underground > Loaded But the middle 2 are almost tied
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	All Tomorrow's Parties is like mid-tier VU and my least fave of the Nico songs, but it's still very good of course Fogza with the 2 worst takes in the thread tbh
Ryus 08.05.21	all tomorrows parties is incredible
fogza 08.05.21	"Fogza with the 2 worst takes in the thread tbh" history will vindicate me haha! "All Tomorrow's Parties is like mid-tier VU " I love ya Ars, but you are so incredibly wrong on this. I can maybe forgive the Gift because I get people like having weird picks, but honestly, After Hours is like an ok throwaway closer. I cannot imagine anyone picking that as the 4th best VU song.
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	After Hours is deff not a throwaway. It's got this charming earnestness to it and high relatability. Lou apparently wrote it with Tucker in mind too, so it's also a sweet gesture. Sure it's not complex or groundbreaking musically, but it's incredibly well written and stands out in stark contrast due to its simple folkiness. I also totally love how awkwardly Long Island she sounds on it. Their 3rd album wouldn't be as good without it
SandwichBubble 08.05.21	After Hours is great twee.
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	[3] I vaguely agree with most fogza takes here, but After Hours is above water and a harder KEEP than All Tomorrow's Parties
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	TBH the only reason The Gift has less replay value is that it's long and narrative, which doesn't aid itself to a passive listen... but like just actively listen when it's on idk
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	yeah I don't think the Gift having limited replay value makes it any worse of a song tbh - the only catch is that it's never gonna be as good as it was the first time, but that's ___
SandwichBubble 08.05.21	Gotta say though, as much as I love sister ray, I rarely make it through all 17 minutes these days. Influence be damned, that song's way too long.
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	i recently heard a garage punk album (both noisey and mediocre as all hell) that consisted of 10 mins of shrapnel originals and one full length sister ray cover. was scandalised and am unsure whether it has raised or diminished my view of the original
SandwichBubble 08.05.21	There are so many albums that are worse off for having a "not as good as the original, but not bad enough to hate" cover on them. I like garage punk though, what's the album?
JohnnyoftheWell 08.05.21	lmfao Anadorei - Pussy Cannibal Holocaust. ashamed to admit i forgot the title for a moment
SandwichBubble 08.05.21	I'm looking at this cover and judging you, Johnny. You're always on brand. But thanks. I'll try it.
WeepingBanana 08.05.21	Wasn’t there some band whose try out consisted of performing a Sister Ray cover?
WeepingBanana 08.05.21	Maybe it was joy division. If anyone knows lmk
fogza 08.05.21	"After Hours is deff not a throwaway. It's got this charming earnestness to it and high relatability. Lou apparently wrote it with Tucker in mind too, so it's also a sweet gesture. Sure it's not complex or groundbreaking musically, but it's incredibly well written and stands out in stark contrast due to its simple folkiness." It's repetitive, basic (although this usually isn't a problem for me), and generic. I don't think Tucker's performance is memorable. It actually feels long for a 2 minute song. I'll be your mirror is a better song.
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	You say that like I'll Be Your Mirror isn't also great After Hours is a 2-minute folk song, how complex do you want it to be? lol, of course it's repetitive, but it still has a bridge despite that
fogza 08.05.21	Lol, it is great, that's kind of my point.
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	TBH I thought After Hours was one of my least controversial picks here since I thought it was universally loved by VU fans Also idk if I'd call a song about Tucker's personal shyness and wanting to overcome it generic, how many 60s songs can you name about that?
fogza 08.05.21	"how many 60s songs can you name about that?" Hmmm... maybe you have a point there. I dunno, it's just one of those songs I hear and it goes in one ear and out the other. But when I hear Nico sing "Please put down your hands", like that leaps out of the speakers and into my soul, and I can't really understand the low position of all the tracks from the debut that feel like absolutely timeless classics. I'll let it go now anyway, getting too worked up about nothing.
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	I mean I feel that way about the first 3 in general, though maybe to a lesser extent than you feel about the debut... not trying to discredit The Velvet Underground & Nico by saying I love some songs from their other albums more
fogza 08.05.21	No absolutely, like I said, my bad, it's just a list.
ReturnToRock 08.05.21	KISS THE BOOT OF SHINY SHINY LEATHERRRR ...
ReturnToRock 08.05.21	Btw, I'm a Boy is a song about sexual identity from 1967, so theres that.
botulist 08.05.21	I mean, after hours is a good song but definitely the song that people who don’t like VU but want to latch onto. The Gift is fucking great though I find myself listening to the instrumental version about half the time nowadays. And Sister Ray is just horseshit after the first five minutes. Also, do not understand loving after hours so much and not including anything off Loaded. Two sides of the same normie VU coin really
ArsMoriendi 08.05.21	"Btw, I'm a Boy is a song about sexual identity from 1967, so theres that." Fair, if only I liked The Who... "Also, do not understand loving after hours so much and not including anything off Loaded. Two sides of the same normie VU coin really" It's not about Loaded being normie/commercial, but just that the overall songwriting quality is down on it. The poppy songs on the s/t are really cool (especially After Hours, Beginning to See the Light, and What Goes On.) I do like the first 3 tracks on Loaded, especially Rock & Roll, but the majority of it (especially the back 7 tracks) are kinda a chore...when pop rock is supposed to be fun
botulist 08.06.21	fair enough. List is quality regardless. Can’t go wrong with the first three albums. Though I will always shamelessly include Foggy Notion off the s/t comp n my own list. Evil jangle pop at its best.