JohnnyoftheWell: INDIE census (register now)

JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	make your choice immediately
Pikazilla 01.09.21	Indie grind. Death to latte indie.
Ryus 01.09.21	both 3 and 4 how do i choose
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	You forgot pop pretending to be indie like Lorde
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	but I guess Pixies and Brainiac are my favorite indie, so indie grind 3 > 4 > 1 > 2
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	PJ Harvey is like 1, 3, and 4 depending on the album :P
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	"both 3 and 4 how do i choose" um jam Polvo back to back with Ride and pick one?! "You forgot pop pretending to be indie like Lorde" this isn't a valid take, and back when Lorde made indie pop, she just about fit in with latte indie
parksungjoon 01.09.21	i vote undertale
Ryus 01.09.21	i have a feeling 4 is going to be neglected so put me down for 4
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	a noble choice
parksungjoon 01.09.21	sans undertale
coachcake 01.09.21	The only correct option is 4
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	1 is underrated, I mean isn't that where R.E.M. probably falls?
Cygnatti 01.09.21	I like all of them in varying degrees... :\|
Ryus 01.09.21	"1 is underrated, I mean isn't that where R.E.M. probably falls?" probably but johnny put the bends to represent it so i can't vote for that in good faith
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	yeah, probably (and I'd also put the likes of Built to Spill, post-Slanted Pavement and most 00s NYC indie in that tier) but then you've got a load of slurry that makes things v sad
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	Since she's my fave in the indie category, I sorted PJ Harvey's albums based on where I'd put them (for the most part): 1: Stories from the City, Let England Shake, Hope Six Demolition Project 3: Dry, Rid of Me, To Bring You My Love, Dance Hall at Louse Point, Uh Huh Her, A Woman a Man Walked By 4: Is This Desire?, White Chalk Correct me if you think I'm wrong
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	would personally consider To Bring You My Love a 2-way split between landfill and sweater, but otherwise ig that seems sound
Sunnyvale 01.09.21	2 and 4, probably
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	To Bring You My Love and A Woman a Man Walked By were the ones I was the least sure about, so fair
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	great work choosing one
Dewinged 01.09.21	Definitely 3
Cygnatti 01.09.21	3 and 4 are more consistently quality I find, but 1 and 2 both have standouts
someone 01.09.21	indie grind, just fuck me up fam
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	So which one is Modest Mouse? 1 or 3?
Dewinged 01.09.21	I guess 2?
neekafat 01.09.21	is nu-Sowingcore just Neekcore?
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	pre-Moon MM is 3, post-Moon is 1, Moon is a mixture of latte and sweater neek you know exactly what it is
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Count me in for Grindie
Trundle 01.09.21	last time i checked 99.9% of music ever made was independent from major labels. but somehow it turned into the musical equivalent of berkenstocks and a fedora
eureka 01.09.21	put me down for 4, please
Sinternet 01.09.21	what about art hoe indie
parksungjoon 01.09.21	gonna neg all your staff reviews until you add undertale to this list
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	make ur case Sint
sixdegrees 01.09.21	No
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	cring
Sinternet 01.09.21	art hoe indie is music you pretend to like to impress 7/10 20 year old girls with dyed unkempt hair and a somewhat substantial onlyfans income keeping them from dropping out of their mid-tier arts degree, with a bonus of either becoming their personal therapist or the main topic of conversation at their actual therapist suggested bands: radiohead (kid a onwards), beabadoobee, elliott smith, pinback, sigur ros
Cygnatti 01.09.21	so it's a combination of these 4
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	lmao i hear this, but can't place it outside of a semi-autonomous middle ground between 2 and 4 hmm
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	I feel like 1 is losing because of the name "landfill" seems so derogatory zakalwe would probably pick that one though
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	i feel that most of the peeps sympathetic to 1 just fw 3 harder
JustJoe. 01.09.21	johnny which one am i put me for which one i am
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	um Loveless is a sweater album, so?
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	I'm gonna guess 4 for Joe
JustJoe. 01.09.21	oh yeah hey good call both of you sweater me up bois
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	Hey Johnny, do I like anything in the Latte Indie category? Maybe Amber Coffman era Dirty projectors counts? Just curious
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	umm I guess Cerulean is tenuously on the fringes of latte indie, as is Sound of Silver, but your comf jams are mostly Sweater and your neurotic jams are mostly Grind so ig that niche doesn't hold that much for you?
Ecnalzen 01.09.21	I have listened to some Death Cab for Cutie Does that count?
Minushuman24 01.09.21	indie grind fuckin duh
Sinternet 01.09.21	put me down for 4 then
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	fosho (+ someone plz tell me which number Death Cab correlates with)
Jasdevi087 01.09.21	where the fuck is anthropology degree indie?
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	I like it when indie bands sound like they're doin' weird enough thangs with the guitar that it's a 50/50 bet the guitar strings get pulled so taught they snap and slit someone's throat. All other indie is to impress people at coffee shops, but lol at Sint's earlier assertion that it's the men putting on these records that would be conscripted as the cute barista's therapist and not vice versa
ZippaThaRippa 01.09.21	is Beach House latte indie
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	the strings are dead long live the strings! "is Beach House latte indie" without a shadow of a doubt. a lukewarm latte at that
ZippaThaRippa 01.09.21	Pour me a cup then
ZippaThaRippa 01.09.21	I'm sitting at one of the couches in this indie coffee shop because my friends and I got here early enough to get one. And I'm making derisive comments about anxious nerds like normie as they come in. Look at that dumb shirt he's wearing
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Zip is that you? This coffee shop has 23 vinyl records in a milk crate, want to see if WU LYF is one of 'em?
ZippaThaRippa 01.09.21	Man.... I haven’t thought about Wu Lyf in forever
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Just how they want it. If you're thinking about how average Wu Lyf's tunes are, they can't capitalize on nostalgia purchases when you bump into their vinyl at a record shop. Sweet marketing gimmick
Trifolium 01.09.21	Johnny, help me, what am I, 1 or 3?
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	Hmm 1 or 4 I think, probs wouldn't put you in 3 but you could go either way between the other two?
Pheromone 01.09.21	i dont rly listen to indie
JesperL 01.09.21	damn this is hard ig i'm 2 but i hate coffee and milk oh no tho i also like the 3 flavour but i dislike most of sonic youth's discog oh no
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Jesper you can get tumeric tonic tea too
Trifolium 01.09.21	Hmmm yes that is true I did not get 4 before but now I see why hmmmmm.
JesperL 01.09.21	ok perfect put me in 2 i'm keeping normnorm company < 3
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	God coffee shops are the best
Pheromone 01.09.21	so many gooooood coffee shops in brighton mm
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Also cat.3 is just that Replacements video where the camera focuses on the amp the whole time and then somebody kicks something over and it ends and Miles Davis isn't relevant anymore so it's the new cool. From somewhere on the distant horizon you can hear Kim Gordon say the word fuck. The word is love. Edit taking a day trip to Brighton when the rest of the world trusts America to travel again. See you in 30 years!
zakalwe 01.09.21	So many total strokers though 1.
Pheromone 01.09.21	I am convinced zak has picked 1 to live up to expectation, bcos rly we all know zak is a 4 indie-wise. and yay porc see you in 50!
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Is Arcade Fire 1, 2, or 4? 70 years is a but a blip on the radar!
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	hooray for zak!! re. Arcade Fire, first two are 4, last two are 2, Suburbs is 1 ig?
Pheromone 01.09.21	can you put half my name in 2 and a slightly bigger half in 4 please
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	done
Pheromone 01.09.21	oh i actually meant 3, not 2 sorry johnny
NorthernSkylark 01.09.21	1 for nostalgic reasons.
fogza 01.09.21	You can't distil all indie appreciation to 4 arbitrary points on the indie line
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	You're right there is a fifth point. It is called purgatory and all indie heads go there when they die. The Glow Pt. 2 plays on the Eternal Turntable (the Eterntable) at all times, because no one is quite sure what to do with it.
Trundle 01.09.21	where's the white privilege category? of course the first "independent bands" ever were comprised solely of white people ripping off previously existing genres.
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Congrats, Columbus, you discovered the West Indie
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	Abstaining on the basis that I could probably legitimately be any or none of these. 3 is the ‘yeah this is cool’ choice, but then it often sucks. I’m sometimes 4 I guess. Where’s sadboi indie? I can’t place it here. Choose for me (just out of interest).
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	If you’re asking based on the actual albums listed here then I’d say reduce The Bends down to it’s better parts, skim through it whilst half-awake pre-coffee, then glance at Confusion is Sex before putting on Sister instead.
zakalwe 01.09.21	This is great. A list of truths
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	Ummm Demon you are probs 1 or 3? or maybe 4? idk, gonna go 1 because i'm lazy and you love Crooked Rain
Pheromone 01.09.21	not to be a debbie downer but this is really missing that neo-psych elephant 6 flaming lips kinda shit
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	I can’t be 1 because it included the words ‘Britpop’ and ‘dads’. Let’s just agree I can’t be pigeonholed and move on from this failed debacle of a list 😉
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	oops too late "not to be a debbie downer but this is really missing that neo-psych elephant 6 flaming lips kinda shit" hmm this is a good point ig we could throw that in as Weed Indie, but half its demographic are now either latte-chugging lame impala simps or cosy sweater gang
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	Demon, if you hurry up and slap a 3.3+ rating on Holdypaws I'll bump you to a different box
zakalwe 01.09.21	‘but half its demographic are now either latte-chugging lame impala simps or cosy sweater gang’ Again this is unbelievably true. Just for the record I’m 1 because of James, Smiths, Oasis, Doves,Verve, Stone Roses, Blur, I’d lump National in with it as well but also the alt rock aspect chiefly REM, Dino Jr, Guided by Voices, Pavement, Modest Mouse, Radiohead and so on. 1 for life ✊🏼
unclereich 01.09.21	Landfill Fuckin Smiths you twat
zakalwe 01.09.21	Smiths are the stonebonker ‘indie’ specific band. I mean they are the absolute bloody benchmark!
unclereich 01.09.21	Wouldn't disagree in a million years! 1is1
Gyromania 01.09.21	damn i;m either landfill or sweater. can't i just exist simultaneously in both universes?
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	You see I REALLY dislike much of that list Zak, yet definitely enjoy some of it... mostly Smiths/National/some Modest Mouse, post-Bends Radiohead and Pavement. Dino Jr as well, but I’m less familiar with their work. I’m still submitting my request to be removed from 1. I gave the previous album a 3/5 Johnny, will work on that one when I get to it.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	no dual existence (only for phero because he is a flyboi)!! make a choice or, uh? and lol yeah The Man, the King, the Girl is a hard 2.8 for me atm but Holdypaws bangs
Uzumaki 01.09.21	Sonic Youth
Gyromania 01.09.21	god dammit! fine - sweater it is
zakalwe 01.09.21	We are all such a bunch of melty nerds it makes me sick.
Gyromania 01.09.21	man... did i make the right choice though? seeing myself in sweater now, i can't help but keep asking myself if i did the right thing. something feels off about this. who even are these people in indie sweater with me? sinternet is supposed to be my arch nemesis and i don't rly know the others super well
zakalwe 01.09.21	Haha gyro perfect. Anxiety through the roof. The only prob I have with the list is should it be sweater or cardigan? Nope I’m happy with sweater, good lad John.
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	What’s the difference between a sweater and a jumper? Yeah I really don’t know, lol. At least you’re not in category cardigan (there should definitely be such a thing Johnny, sort it out!)
zakalwe 01.09.21	Yeah to be fair it should be knitted jumper just to hammer it home. Or not necessarily knitted just one of those ones with the multi patterned rhomboids and what not.
Gyromania 01.09.21	ugh that just adds a whole new realm of problems. is 'sweater' even the most apt? why not cardigan? i like sweaters more tho tbh, esp since taylor swift wrote a song called cardigan last year and it blows ass. actually nvm sweater is fine
JohnnyoftheWell 01.09.21	cardigan indie and flannel indie have both been cancelled by taylor swlol fuck EDIT gyro got there first
Gyromania 01.09.21	haha
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	Cardigans have buttons right? Oh man, imagine the type of person who listens to cardigan indie, I think you dodged a bullet on reflection Johnny. Imagine the controversy that could’ve caused.
ZippaThaRippa 01.09.21	Denim vest with patches indie
Ecnalzen 01.09.21	Does that mean I am half 2 and half 4? Do I listen to other indie things? I have no idea what's going on. Please advise
Pikazilla 01.09.21	He right though
Mort. 01.09.21	indie grind is best indie
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	"not to be a debbie downer but this is really missing that neo-psych elephant 6 flaming lips kinda shit" Olivia Tremor Control and of Montreal rule yeah
Demon of the Fall 01.09.21	I’ve only been placed in 1 to try and trigger me, I can feel it.
Uzumaki 01.09.21	TFW your vote for indie grind isn’t counted...
NeroCorleone 01.09.21	When it comes to indie I usually prefer the noisy/feedback stuff or slowcore, which I guess counts as 4? Put me down for 3, but during these winter months I've been jamming a lot of Codeine and RHP.
Pheromone 01.09.21	check art of fighting and spokane
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	I just slipped on an ice patch and slid into a wire fence, feels nice to be the spearhead of the no wave revival
Pheromone 01.09.21	beta porc not knowing you cant bb on lists
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Lol I covered my tracks no one must know
JustJoe. 01.09.21	oh man if elephant 6 indie gets included then i’ma have to be 2 people right quick
Pheromone 01.09.21	HA but porc,,, i simply copied your mistake for the world porc posted this '[url]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/136093122_1200056707056173_5931020966342979771_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=TBMb6R1GQNMAX_5jypL&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=a9f9a3cc23cc06b3423af2e784dd6af8&oe=60205346[/url]' the fool
ian b 01.09.21	def a tossup between grind and sweater but Indie Grind sounds cooler so imma go with that
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	Phero I'm in a job interview and it was going really well and we were sealing the deal but then they saw this post and rescinded the offer!! Thanks a bunch!!
Pheromone 01.09.21	dont give into the capitalist agenda bro, stay on your father's couch shitposting about albums into this empty void forreeeeevvveeeeer
porcupinetheater 01.09.21	This has been a real wake up call. I think I need to take stock of my life and take responsibility. One last nicer-dicer into that good night. So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, [url]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/136093122_1200056707056173_5931020966342979771_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=TBMb6R1GQNMAX_5jypL&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=a9f9a3cc23cc06b3423af2e784dd6af8&oe=60205346[/url]
rifkadm 01.09.21	Ok well I love Sufjan he's my favorite indie artist and I hang out at coffee shops. Put me down for #2. I like a bit of #4 as well.
Colton 01.09.21	I only listen to progressive indie
ArsMoriendi 01.09.21	Colton is deff not category 3 As much as I wanna goof on him and say he's category 2, he's probably 4
Colton 01.09.21	I don't really know what that means but I think I agree
JohnnyoftheWell 01.10.21	Uzu, you don't vote for a genre, you sell your soul to it Colton is kinda hard to place between 2 and 4. Did a rating scroll and the results were inconclusive, but since his highest rated 3 album was YWGWYW (aka the vanilla syrup latte of indie grind) and half his recs throughout last yr were basically Sowingcore, maybe 2 is the one...
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	I only really drink my coffee black or with whipped cream if it's a holiday And even then I'm more into tea
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	1: classic cup of joe w/ half & half or a real cappuccino 2: frufru Starbucks latte or iced coffee 3: black coffee or green tea w/ lemon 4: hot cocoa or black tea
Mort. 01.10.21	why you not count me you? voter suppression, i demand a recount
JohnnyoftheWell 01.10.21	gonna suppress your ass any day
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	That's hot, Johnny
Ryus 01.10.21	cappucinos are godly
Mort. 01.10.21	'gonna suppress your ass any day' drag me into your well johnny
LeddSledd 01.10.21	hmmm, not a huge indie guy by any means... but from what i've heard, i'll choose 3
Cygnatti 01.10.21	Why is zak flexing his indie cred on us. Zak, we dont care we love ya all the same.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.10.21	Cyg stop being an indie centralist, this list is lame w/o you on it :[
Cygnatti 01.10.21	I literally cannot help it. I'm like pathologically a centrist in many ways, no matter what I do.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.10.21	Paha, what's the most centrist indie album?
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	So it'd need to be guitary, commercial, abrasive, and warm? ...Cryptograms by Deerhunter?
rage11111ro 01.10.21	I did not know I liked any Indie, I got drawn here but the huge number of comments. But Radiohead is very cool.
ian b 01.10.21	cyg, if i was able to pick one, then you can too !!!
Demon of the Fall 01.10.21	Damn I do like cappuccino. Noooooo!
Pheromone 01.10.21	> most centrist indie album > crooked rain
Pangea 01.10.21	i'm having an identity crisis johnny. please help
Cimnele 01.10.21	basically I love sonic youth
Cimnele 01.10.21	and i might be the person who quotes watch song by shellac at people
Pheromone 01.10.21	yeah but sonic youth goo or sonic youth bullying nardwuar in a carpark or sonic youth EVOL
Cimnele 01.10.21	all of the above disconnection notice and expressway to yr skull are probably landfill but I love that side of them just as much as the punkier noisier stuff
Cygnatti 01.10.21	put me up for 3, it's prob the most consistent of these that I dig. but yeah, I still dig all of them ~
JustJoe. 01.10.21	twee census when
Ryus 01.10.21	now that would be good
YoYoMancuso 01.10.21	indie grind for sure
protokute 01.10.21	I go for the Indie sweater
Cygnatti 01.10.21	can someone explain to me what Latte Indie is tho? I have a good idea but still
zakalwe 01.10.21	That coffee shop ‘pleasant’ folky stuff Laura Marling style, or loft house conversion ‘arty’ stuff like Local Natives listened to by edgy people because they say they’re vegan but wear leather brogues.
Colton 01.10.21	Bitch Punisher is the only latte indie I like and you like Stranger and that new EP that makes you more latte indie than me and you’ve also never even heard MPP until you discovered it in my ratings jesus how do you literally live in the future yet you’re so out of touch with the past you’ve had time to catch up and pissed it away listening to roided up anime soundtracks get fucked
LeddSledd 01.10.21	lol
Cygnatti 01.10.21	I like that description ty
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	"Bitch Punisher is the only latte indie I like " Isn't Animal Collective latte indie though or at least the Merriweather shit is
zakalwe 01.10.21	Definitely
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	Colton loves them and has Merriweather 4.5'd Case closed
madrigal30 01.10.21	3 and 4 but way more 4
Colton 01.10.21	MPP is only latte indie to people who desperately don't wanna be affiliated with latte indie and probably have post punk in their pie charts
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	You have post punk in your pie chart, in the same spot as me lol
zakalwe 01.10.21	I’m affiliated with the lot and it cripples me inside.
Colton 01.10.21	Don’t turn this around on me ars
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	TBH I kinda wish post punk would leave my chart in favor of noise rock But Sputnik seems to mainly promote noise rock that is also post punk lol
Colton 01.10.21	The last spot on my chart changes between psychedelic, post punk and electronic seemingly randomly
Koris 01.10.21	definitely indie grind
zakalwe 01.10.21	Neither of you schlebs has jazz in there so neither of you are a complete wanker like your uncle zak....yet
Cygnatti 01.10.21	need more info on latte indie, so I know if I can slander it or not
madrigal30 01.10.21	indie grind is awesome and i love it, but if im actively seeking an experience from indie its sweaters coffee cigarettes and hugs so give me my Grandaddy and my Rilo Kiley and leave me the fuck alone
JustJoe. 01.10.21	slibel
ArsMoriendi 01.10.21	"need more info on latte indie, so I know if I can slander it or not" I'll make a list! I GOT THIS!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 01.10.21	3
JohnnyoftheWell 01.11.21	thanks for the pasta Colton and thanks for the ratings, would never have discovered AnCo without em
Mort. 01.11.21	he seems a tad unstable johnny dont josh him too hard
Cygnatti 01.11.21	I changed my mind, I'm #4
deathschool 01.11.21	Indie grind, I suppose
ieatbabies795 01.11.21	Numero tre per me
theBoneyKing 01.11.21	Uhhhhh I think 4. Maybe 1 though.
LeddSledd 01.11.21	wtf Jimmy put me on
JohnnyoftheWell 01.11.21	alas
tyman128 01.11.21	Guess I gotta get put into 2... can't get myself out of this one
dedex 01.11.21	hey im #3
Pangea 01.11.21	well johnny didn't answer my cry for help, but i suppose í'm 4 the most. I have a lot of 1 and 2 in me too though
protokute 01.11.21	i was forgotten
BenThatsMyJamin 01.11.21	4 > 3 > 2 > 1
FadedSun 01.11.21	I'm somewhere between landfill indie, and whatever the F kind of indie Hop Along is.
madrigal30 01.11.21	would argue that hop along is riot grrrl x landfill indie
JohnnyoftheWell 01.11.21	Lol would never call Hop Along riot grrl. Landfill sounds about right, but Bark is latte
BlushfulHippocrene 01.12.21	Yeah, milqueto-- latte indie for me, thanks.
Demon of the Fall 01.12.21	Ars’s list gave me the most points in category 4, so request to change it to 4. No.1 was fighting it out with 3 for 2nd place. Latte was the clear loser, which sounds about right I guess.
Artuma 01.12.21	you can count me in 4
JesusCage 01.13.21	Landfill for me
Pikazilla 01.13.21	"Latte was the clear loser, which sounds about right I guess." yeah
Trundle 01.13.21	title for an indie slasher horror movie, "INDIE-CENSE"
Lucman 01.16.21	I'm 1 for certain.
Snake. 07.07.21	if it's not too late i'd like to be put into 4
Sowing 07.07.21	Do I need to register under #2 or is that a given
DavidYowi 07.07.21	Gotta climb those ladders. Gotta get on that INDIE GRIND
Storm In A Teacup 07.07.21	haven't even heard of the last three bands but Kid A was mindblowing as a pre-teen
Ryus 07.07.21	you havent heard of sonic youth or yo la tengo? bruh
Storm In A Teacup 07.07.21	oh damn didn't read that right then, never listened to sonic youth but know they are adored. and yeah never heard of that other band
DavidYowi 07.07.21	Slint goes under Indie Grind right?
Divaman 07.07.21	1. And you still make too many lists.
DoofDoof 07.07.21	Guess I’d go 4 > 3 > 1 > 2
Ryus 07.07.21	same except 4 and 3 are probably tied for me. cant choose between the two
fogza 07.07.21	As much as I hate the term, I'm probably landfill
DavidYowi 07.07.21	Now that I looked at Ars' version, I think I'm Indie Sweater
JustJoe. 07.07.21	i retract my comment on your other list
JustJoe. 07.07.21	thought you name/topic swapped like a heathen
ArsMoriendi 07.07.21	Yeah landfill 100% has a discouraging name despite it being filled with good artists like Wilco
JohnnyoftheWell 07.07.21	Wow ok UPDATED keep em coming Storm make ur mind up plz Wilco are surely a sweater band and idk if Slint qualify as indie tbh, but they'd probably be grind ig?
ArsMoriendi 07.08.21	Idk isn’t Wilco often considered a dad band I hear that a lot from people
Faraudo 07.08.21	Indie grind
fogza 07.08.21	I would put wilco in landfill for sure