garas
11.29.19 | In my opinion Bergtatt is unmatched. |
Thalassic
11.29.19 | Bergtatt by far imo |
hal1ax
11.29.19 | nattens |
Trifolium
11.29.19 | Nattens, I like Bergtatt but I'm not as big a fan of it as most.
I could listen to Nattens every day. |
budgie
11.29.19 | bergtatt for me |
blou52
11.29.19 | Nattens for sure. The production might be borderline unlistenable but the music underneath is too good |
Source
11.29.19 | welcome my last chapter |
DungeonBoy
11.29.19 | Bergtatt easily for me. Think I'll jam it now |
garas
11.29.19 | The correct black metal phase Ulver order is: Bergtatt > Vargnatt >>>>> Nattens |
budgie
11.29.19 | i haven't listened to vargnatt in a billion years |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.29.19 | I vote blood inside |
garas
11.29.19 | Johnny: Noted. Maybe later I'll make a whole discog Ulver voting too, haha!
budgie: Then it is about time, Vargnatt is so overlooked! But I think that one is beautiful. |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.29.19 | Sorry lol I'm just trolling. Haven't listened to either of these in forever tbh, need to fix this |
CugnoBrasso
11.29.19 | I'm afraid I'll have to vote Bergtatt but have you listened to the remixed version of Nattens on Trollsk Sortmetall? They re-recorded the bass tracks, downright glorious! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.29.19 | whatever the opposite of what budgie said gets my vote |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.29.19 | I'm gonna give Nattens the vote actually solely because Hymn IV exists |
Source
11.29.19 | is vargnatt a burzum tribute album |
Trifolium
11.29.19 | Hymne VI is why I vote Nattens. Wolf and Passion. Raw bm has never sounded as happy and triumphant. |
loulou
11.29.19 | bergtatt |
ScuroFantasma
11.29.19 | i think Nattens is superior, though I listen to Bergtatt more frequently. |
bbgames
11.29.19 | Nattens |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.29.19 | if VI is the one I think it is, it rips and is wonderful |
Itwasthatwas
11.30.19 | Bergtatt by a mile tbh |
IAmScott
11.30.19 | Perdition City |
TheClansman95
11.30.19 | both fantastic albums, but for me the best one is Bergtatt. |
Pikazilla
11.30.19 | team bergtatt yes yes |
budgie
11.30.19 | team bergtatt best |
dedex
11.30.19 | let's go for bergtatt |
sixdegrees
11.30.19 | nattens |
BAT
11.30.19 | Nattens, never really gravitated to bergtatt but i was into borknager and arcturus for a while. Need to give their current stuff a shot |
Keyblade
11.30.19 | Bergtatt |
TVC15
11.30.19 | Nattens, easily |
Rowan5215
11.30.19 | bergtatt ye |
Meridiu5
11.30.19 | vote natty for the trems |
oltnabrick
11.30.19 | nattens |
theBoneyKing
11.30.19 | Nattens |
garas
11.30.19 | Wow, equal amount of votes! |
Trifolium
11.30.19 | Nice!!!
It absolutely is Johnny (I think... โบ๏ธ) |
Grimlin
11.30.19 | Nattens |
Trifolium
11.30.19 | Yes Grimlin!!! |
Sinternet
11.30.19 | nattens probably edges it for me (but yes team perdition outside of this binary) |
Alastor
11.30.19 | Bergtatt yo |
Elynna
11.30.19 | Bergtatt |
AstralBlood
11.30.19 | Bergtatt |
Egarran
11.30.19 | I'm not voting before I know where we're going with this.
If my album lost I would be a lesser person. |
TVC15
12.01.19 | Woah when did Boney start listening to black metal? |
Tyler.
12.01.19 | nattens |
LifeFeedsOnLife
12.01.19 | Bergtatt |
Gyromania
12.01.19 | Bergtatt |
Egarran
12.01.19 | Looks like the madrigal of the night is running away with this!
It's a werewolf btw. |
budgie
12.01.19 | bergtatt is winning |
Egarran
12.01.19 | Yeah I'm lying.
*runs away giggling 'god his life must suck so much'* |
oltnabrick
12.01.19 | besides Keyblade, everyone who picked bergtatt is lame |
garas
12.01.19 | Team Bergtatt takes the lead.
"besides Keyblade, everyone who picked bergtatt is lame"
pffffffff ( อ ยฐ อส อ ยฐ) |
Pikazilla
12.01.19 | besides oltnabitch and darius, everyone who picked nattens is cool |
Sinternet
12.01.19 | im honored |
Trifolium
12.01.19 | [2] |
0xME
12.01.19 | I'm late to this party, but while Nattens is great, Bergtatt is pretty much the perfect album |
IAmScott
12.01.19 | Y'all arent even talking about the best ulver record |
Sevengill
12.01.19 | Nattens |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | Y'all arent even talking about the best ulver record [2] |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | I like both about the same so I'll vote Nattens |
garas
12.01.19 | Nah, noone is late, this is a long party! I'm still updating!
"Y'all arent even talking about the best ulver record"
Tbh, that would be very hard for me, because I have three 5.0s from them, and I love 'em pretty much equally. |
Egarran
12.01.19 | We can't bring Marriage up in every thread. |
climactic
12.01.19 | nattens |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | Bergtatt, easily. Nattens isnt that impressive to me, more of a basic bitch black metal album. |
IAmScott
12.01.19 | Lol what? Can you elaborate a bit |
Metz
12.01.19 | Bergtatt without the shadow of a doubt. I'd even say it's the finest black metal album ever written |
Gyromania
12.01.19 | Nattens sounds like a bunch of dudes playing on a broken amp from Wal-Mart while hitting tin cans with wooden spoons in their garage |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | You make it sound better than it actually is. |
asanisimasa
12.01.19 | begtatt |
blou52
12.01.19 | I'm not surprised Bergtatt is winning. I mean, it's a lot easier to see the beauty in that compared to Nattens |
Eakflanderyof
12.01.19 | Bergtatt. But I still like nattens a lot
Nattens has some great riffage but the production sets it back. I like to at least hear the drums clearly. The low end is barely there so the kick is nearly inaudible. By contrast, the production on bergtatt is spot on and the atmosphere is perfect. Definitely one of my favorite bm albums |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | Where Bergtatt was very unique for the time, Nattens was just another straightforward black metal album. Its got decent riffs, but i never loved it. |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | Do you even buzzsaw? |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | bergtatt is way more basic to me than nattens. |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | Especially with all those folk parts |
InFlamesWeThrash666
12.01.19 | Bergtatt because it doesn't make my ears bleed |
ElioG
12.01.19 | Berg dat yeah. |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | The folk parts and singing are exactly what makes it not basic. No one else sounded like them when that came out. Nattens sounded like a 100 other albums. |
garas
12.01.19 | [2]
"Especially with all those folk parts"
For me, those are essential in the album's succes and overall mood + atmosphere. |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | it depends what you mean by basic. if by basic you mean a more commonplace sound relative to what was the established black metal aesthetic, then sure. if by basic you mean a less challenging, more immediate and accessible sound, then bergtatt is more basic. |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | "if by basic you mean a more commonplace sound relative to what was the established black metal aesthetic"
That is what i mean.
"if by basic you mean a less challenging, more immediate and accessible sound, then bergtatt is more basic."
I guess Nattens is more challenging and less accessible in the sense that its harsher, but id say Nattens is also a much more immediate record. Its more about riffs, Bergtatt is more about the bigger picture and atmosphere. |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | agreed then
edit: partially agreed then |
Eakflanderyof
12.01.19 | Honestly, nattens is pretty basic as far as bm albums go. Most of the songs are only two or three riffs and the album is like 80 percent blastbeats and almost nothing but tremolo picked melodies. Bergtatt has way more variety |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | simplicity done well is important. something doesn't have to be protean to be attractive. i guess it depends what you're looking for. nattens has never bored me. |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | Even Ulver said their folk parts were naive. |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | Who cares, artists always see their own work way differently than everyone else does. |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | @hal i edited that comment quite a bit, idk if that "agreed" would still stand. |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | i would argue nattens is about atmosphere too... its atmosphere is just less immediately grasping and harder to decipher |
ElioG
12.01.19 | Exactly, I watched a Coppola masterclass years ago here in Greece and he said he thinks the Godfather Trilogy are his weaker movies. Go figure. |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | "Bergtatt is more about the bigger picture and atmosphere."
True, it's more of a concept album.
"The folk parts and singing are exactly what makes it not basic."
The folk elements are generic and they are not always combined with the unique black metal parts.
"Nattens sounded like a 100 other albums." Name one. That trashy guitar sound was unique. |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | The production is slightly unique, ill give it that, but its not THAT different from other albums that had already been out. And the songwriting sure isnt unique. |
Eakflanderyof
12.01.19 | I mean yeah... nattens is unique in that the guitar sounds like they cranked up the treble all the way and turned all the mids and low end completely down to 0 and recorded it through a potato in an unfinished basement.
I like nattens but still |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | Whether you think the folk parts were generic or whatever, doesnt matter, not the point. The point is, they didnt sound like anyone else at the time. |
Eakflanderyof
12.01.19 | Also the folk break in wolf and fear is one of the best parts of the album |
Pikazilla
12.01.19 | Yes, clearly no one knew how to trem pick in 1997 |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | "but its not THAT different from other albums that had already been out"
Agreed, but I think the same for Bergtatt. |
Trifolium
12.01.19 | I think Bergtatt is a bit overrated actually.
Nattens is super mega addictive and never loses its punch. |
budgie
12.01.19 | MIND YOURSELF TRIF |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | do the unholy trinity list next |
garas
12.01.19 | "do the unholy trinity list next"
Alright! Tomorrow is Darkthrone day! |
Thalassic
12.01.19 | I like how Ulver supposedly were handed a fairly large budget to make Nattens, but decided to spend 98% of that money on Rolex watches, tailored suits and cocaine.
Not sure if it's an urban legend, but epic if true. |
Trifolium
12.01.19 | I know budgie, still a 4.5 to me.
It's your fave ever in forever right? |
budgie
12.01.19 | like killing is my business? 90% of the budget on coke and heroin, that's the way to make a classic apparently |
budgie
12.01.19 | i think youre overrated, trifolium |
GhandhiLion
12.01.19 | @Thalassic
And that they recorded the album outside lol. |
garas
12.01.19 | "I like how Ulver supposedly were handed a fairly large budget to make Nattens, but decided to spend 98% of that money on Rolex watches, tailored suits and cocaine."
I hope it is true. |
Thalassic
12.01.19 | @GhandiLion
Lmao yeah the stories add charm to the album
@Budgie
When you take a look at what he came up with when he was coked up compared to what he made when he wasn't, I think it's time for Dave to pick up that crack pipe again |
budgie
12.01.19 | also being young angry hungry poor vs. being successful and older |
Relinquished
12.01.19 | nattens |
Disorderly
12.01.19 | Bergtatt |
Bobshat
12.01.19 | bergtatt for sure |
R4zor3dge
12.01.19 | Bergtatt. |
oltnabrick
12.01.19 | InFlamesWeThrash666 |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | bergtwatt |
Deathconscious
12.01.19 | Nattens Ice |
budgie
12.01.19 | carlsbergtatt |
dwightfryed
12.01.19 | Nattens |
ScuroFantasma
12.02.19 | Separating the men from the boys with this one |
mifzal
12.02.19 | Nattens easily |
garas
12.02.19 | Scuro:
>:p |
Egarran
12.02.19 | >carlsbergtatt
As a side note Carlsberg employed a lot of swastikas on their pre-WW2 merch.
https://imgur.com/a/OfTJSjE
|
Deathconscious
12.02.19 | "Separating the men from the boys with this one"
Agreed, now we all know who prefers a run-of-the-mill bm album over a folky bm masterpiece |
Relinquished
12.02.19 | lol run-of-the-mill cuz it came out late in '97 or |
BallsToTheWall
12.02.19 | Bergtatt. The woodland stomping sample just canโt be beaten. |
Dimorphic
12.02.19 | Bergtatt by a country-fucking-mile.
And I say that as a huge fan of Nattens Madrigal. |
mifzal
12.02.19 | Who the f are you to f my choice?
Really depends on the day for me. Nattens now. |
garas
12.02.19 | What's the matter, mifzal? |
Sunnyvale
12.02.19 | Bergtatt |
Trifolium
12.02.19 | Run of the mill for you, one of the best bm albums ever for me. |
Deathconscious
12.03.19 | Nah i respect the opposite opinion, im just clapping scuro's cheeks a little. |
Deathconscious
12.03.19 | Bergtatt. The woodland stomping sample just canโt be beaten. [2] |
aydross121
12.03.19 | Bergtatt. Both are good but this one doesn't sound like complete ass. |
Gallantin
12.03.19 | Nattens, no contest |
ScuroFantasma
12.03.19 | @Deathconscious oi no fair boy genius (;
Also I didn't recognise you with the new name at first, how you doing man? |
Ashen
12.03.19 | Nattens Madrigal โ Aatte Hymne til Ulven i Manden |
Cimnele
12.03.19 | ๐ |
Meridiu5
12.04.19 | can't flatten the natten |
budgie
12.04.19 | the berg is the word
everybody knows |
cinnamoncakeface
12.04.19 | Nattens |
Deathconscious
12.04.19 | @scuro im doing well, working too much, still damaging my IQ with too much death metal, you know. m////// |