heyadam
09.17.19 | I'm 100% a filthy casual |
Uzumaki
09.17.19 | Haven't finished it yet because I've been burned out on video games lately (got about 6-8 hrs in here), but I enjoyed the time I put in. Got a couple friends who enjoyed it as well. Feels like FE mixed with Persona-style school elements. |
botb
09.17.19 | Black Eagles over all! |
RolyPoly
09.17.19 | This might be the best in the series but Im no where close to finishing, I've been having so much fun that I've been slacking on my fitness routines lol. It makes me very happy since awake and fates disappointed
Claude doesn't come off as a jerk to me but I'm only on chapt 5 so maybe things will change
I've played like every game in the series, so I picked maddening and might have run into a problem on chapter 5, when the re-enforcements surprise spawned I audibly said wtfff
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Saros
09.17.19 | Still need to pick it up sometime. I didn't get it back when it first released because it came out the same weekend I usually go to my local convention. It's fine with me because there's some other games I've wanted to play in the meantime, so I'll get to it eventually. |
Uzumaki
09.17.19 | I went with Blue Lions. |
heyadam
09.17.19 | The problem with having SO many things to do in game is that I get paranoid about setting my self up for success later. I haven't made any recruiting attempts yet, but I think I'm gonna start focusing on that a little bit. |
Slex
09.17.19 | Love this game so so much so far, like 40-50 hours in |
Trebor.
09.17.19 | bruh I live for FE, but I don't got a switch right now. Been playing through every other FE again though |
Frippertronics
09.17.19 | burned myself out after clearing BL/GD but BL has a better story but GD reveals a lot more that is only gleaned over in BL (also has two of the best units in the game) |
Uzumaki
09.17.19 | Yeah, I've got a 3DS and I'm playing through FE: Birthright again for the third time whilst on my lunch breaks, this time trying to max everyone's support bonds.
@heyadam, that's why you have 3 houses. 3 houses = 3 playthroughs. ;) |
heyadam
09.17.19 | I wish I would have gotten into the series growing up but turn-based was never my thing -- absolutely loving this one though. Hope you get to play it soon. It seemed so intimidating (and still is in some ways) but it's a great fucking time |
heyadam
09.17.19 | I almost went with BL fripp cause the whole "he seemed sincere but there was a darkness in his eyes" thing with their house leader lol. This definitely seems like a multiple playthrough sort of game |
Anthracks
09.17.19 | 10 hours in and it's pretty boring. does it get better cause if not I don't know how I feel about spending 40 hours to beat it |
heyadam
09.17.19 | I'm a little over ten hours in myself and it feels like this is going to be the majority of what the game is in general so ya sounds like it's probs just not for you |
Anthracks
09.17.19 | ok ill stop playing |
nol
09.17.19 | The way the portraits clip in talking scenes bothers me to an absurd extent.
1 chapter away from getting the shitty ending in Roy’s game tho. GBA fire emblems are my fav. |
heyadam
09.17.19 | yeah I wish the dialogue was more dynamic, but as this is my first FE game in general and I really don't play many games anymore I'm not super bothered by it lol |
RolyPoly
09.17.19 | If you dont like strategy games its probably not for you, the stories are usually well written but nothing mind blowing, the focus is the gameplay. |
Anthracks
09.17.19 | doesn't seem like it takes too much strategy I mean im killing everything by rushing straight at it |
RolyPoly
09.17.19 | Which difficulty?
There was a lot of complaints hard is too easy which is why maddening was added
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Chortles
09.17.19 | Absolutely loved this game. It's not without its flaws to be sure, but after finding the last several games in the series a little limp, this really surprised me and shook things up in the best way. First time I felt so engrossed in a Fire Emblem game since I smashed the GBA ones as a kid when they came over to the west. The switch is just perfectly suited for it too |
Chortles
09.17.19 | ^^ it definitely is a little too easy though. looking forward to going back in on Maddening |
heyadam
09.17.19 | I'm averaging buying like two games a year at this point and have never really played a turn based game, so even though everyone is saying how easy it is I'm having a pretty great (and challenging enough) time on normal lol |
ramon.
09.18.19 | im refusing to open my peripheral vision wide enough to read anything itt but commenting as a reminder to hurry up the fuk and buy this damn game |
GreyShadow
09.18.19 | on my 2nd playthrough (did Black Eagles and now on Golden Deer). my first game was Sacred Stones and I've played every game following it that wasn't on a console and Three Houses has finally dethroned Awakening
I'm feeling a bit of a burnout considering i don't have the motivation to do the whole first part over again in rapid succession but it's still entertaining with a different cast to focus on. |
nol
09.18.19 | Play fire emblem echoes and you’ll realize how truly easy this game is lol. Some fire emblem games are hard as FUCK (especially the ones only, or originally, released in Japan)
And I feel other games in the series were more to the point. I prefer just battles and dialogue, the academy stuff really doesn’t do it for me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.18.19 | loved the old handheld games. this academy bullshit looks whack as fuck tbh. |
nol
09.18.19 | Path of Radiance was my first and my favorite, it’s sad virtually no one has played it. Rerelease it on switch, and remake Binding Blade, plz Nintendo the series is killing it in sales. |
Chortles
09.18.19 | the academy stuff seemed like such a drag at first as i really just wanted to keep progressing the story, but it grew on me a lot as i played. starts to go by a bit faster when you realize you can really just do as much/as little as you want in that downtime to set your own pace. aside from that, i just think the loop of instructing students and building supports in the monastery slots in really nicely with the core gameplay elements and sense of progression at the heart of the series |
heyadam
09.18.19 | yeah I enjoy the academy stuff — it helps pace the game imo. Plus, at least for me, it really is a good way to care about characters to up the stakes in battle. I audibly gasped last night cause I thought I led like ten kids to their deaths lol |
Cygnatti
09.18.19 | what chortles said [2]
i really like this game, some things bother me, it's a bit too easy, but i'm v excited to do maddening (lunatic) mode. |
Cygnatti
09.18.19 | academy stuff bothered me until I realized a few thigns, now it's super broken
note: that the main character doesn't get "instruction" stuff, but he can get his own version of it while "exploring" at the academy. |
Uzumaki
09.18.19 | Came in on FE: Birthright after a friend rec'd the series, and I've enjoyed the series ever since. Shadow Dragon was a blast, but the ending fucked me over; chewed me up and spat me out because I had given up my best mage several chapters earlier. |
RolyPoly
09.18.19 | Shadow dragon is over hated it's a great game but I think new mystery of the emblem is even better, it refines everything SD set out to do
I hate school tropes in anime but it's really not how I expected, the chars are likeable in 3 houses imo, except lorenz, that weasely lil snob, I had to scold him about his unwanted sexual advances towards the girls at the monastery, get a clue and realize you're not gods gift to earth, you purple haired Ringo star lookin MFer. Oh, and Hilda is my spirit animal. |
Uzumaki
09.18.19 | Nah, I didn't hate it at all, just didn't take into account the learning curve/difficulty spike the older games have. I'll definitely come back to it and take it on again, but utilize EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY available to that roster of characters to LEVEL GRIND (!!!!!!!)
On another tangent, I've got FE: Radiant Dawn in my WiiU and been poking at that back and forth. It's hilarious right now because I just got a tank, and I can't level grind with her because she's exclusively one-shot material lol. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.18.19 | The honest game trailer for this really made me never want to play it |
heyadam
09.19.19 | haha damn, on one hand I’m bummed I never grew up playing the games cause I don’t have anything to compare it to, but on the other hand I’m actually having a great time with it being my first one.
and ya RolyPoly, Lorenz sucks. I will fucking die for wholesome Raphael tho lol |
Cygnatti
09.19.19 | Lorenz is underrated tbh. I think all the characters are pretty good. Especially when you get to the later supports.
Also having Lorenz in your party gets you a legendary staff that boosts magic attack range +2, so yeah Lysithea is broken with that thing. |
PistolPete
09.19.19 | It's daunting how there's four friggin storylines averaging 21 chapters a pop. But I think it's a great spin on it, kinda hated the changed at first but it's for the better.
I'm almost done the Blue teams path. So much time is spent teaching classes and walking around though very time-consuming. |
heyadam
09.19.19 | Lorenz is dope on the battlefield, he’s one of my highest level students actually — his personality is just such a meme lol. The only person that’s kinda a waste for me rn is Ignatz — glad to hear Lysithea gets broken, she’s someone I was neglecting at first but have been utilizing her a lot more the last few missions |
heyadam
09.19.19 | Just recruited Petra last night as my first recruit in general, trying to get Felix as well. Seriously, I get how long time fans of the series could probably not like this one in comparison, but I legit can't stop playing lol |
Uzumaki
09.19.19 | Petra is bae. |
heyadam
09.19.19 | 1000% lol. She's gonna be a support rank S for sure |
necropig
09.19.19 | I put 143 hours into it, great game |
Uzumaki
09.19.19 | Damn, son. Props. |
necropig
09.19.19 | Petra is bae, Hilda is best in the game, Dimitri is a tank, claude rips, Edelgard is great waifu, Berni and felix just crit everyone. |
heyadam
09.19.19 | has anybody here played through all three houses campaigns? I feel like I'm gonna be ecstatic through this first play through, and then probably get a ways into a second before dropping out lol |
necropig
09.19.19 | I've played through the 3 best routes, there is a 4th but I opted not to do it. They are very similar until the time skip apart from character dialogue for each house but then they each open up |
heyadam
09.19.19 | oh awesome! good to know. I really have no idea what to do with Ignatz rn -- like he's the only one in the class consistently doing pretty much nothing. His speed is atrocious. And Marianne is hard to make super useful right now too, but she does have that psychic healing thing |
necropig
09.19.19 | Flush ignatz down the toilet. Recruit as many as you can too, just spend all your activity points on dinners to help build their affinity with you. Felix is fantastic as a mortal savant in the late game, recruit him. Up until then he just destroys if you give him a rapier or the wo dao. Protect lysithea at all costs, one of the most op characters in the game. Also, get petra in your team and dancer her up the fuck. |
RolyPoly
09.19.19 | I was able to recruit Ingrid by chapter 6 and I can already tell flying units are going to be broken in this game lol, canto plus being able to dismount without it taking a turn like in tharcia is amazing. You get the mobility while being able to get rid of your bow weakness, this will lead to interesting strategies.
Oh and chapter 5 was a nightmare on maddening it took me 60 turns 😭 I dont think there could of been a way to do it quicker though between the spiral layout of the map and everyone having 4 movement, then on top of it ambush reinforcements that double almost your entire party plus they have pass skill which allows them to go through your formations. So relieved after I beat it. |
Frippertronics
09.19.19 | Wyverns are absolutely broken yeah
Makes the beach and fog maps a total breeze |
heyadam
09.19.19 | lol I actually used Ignatz as bait in the big three-way celebration battle thing in month 11 and it totally saved me. I already have Petra, and I'm going for Felix for sure. Lysithea is getting good now but I had trouble figuring her out first. Also, would it be worth it to give Claude a mount in the future at all? Hilda's on a pegasus for some reason rn and I just went with it haha |
Frippertronics
09.19.19 | Also Lorenz ends up being one of the best characters in the game if you go through a ton of his convos past C rank, same goes for Ferdinand who at first glance is pretty much "muh dad" |
necropig
09.19.19 | Don't worry about claude pre-time skip. Lys just progresses so quickly through the classes with her double xp so get her to warlock and she does double magic and destroys people. Ferd was good as armour knight in my playthrough. He just laughed at them as they never damaged him. lorenz was good with the magic horse class. |
Uzumaki
09.19.19 | I'll have to refer to this convo when I pick the game back up lol. |
heyadam
09.19.19 | for sure -- I wanna talk about it and look stuff up, but I'm even afraid to look up DLC info in case something gets spoiled lol.
but thanks for the advice necro, I'll keep that in mind for sure. Not sure who I'll pick for a second play-through, but I'm thinking the Lions just cause Dimitri seems like he'll have an interesting story. Loving the Golden Deer rn tho |
Frippertronics
09.19.19 | I'd recommend just going through two routes and sitting on the other two until more DLC comes out, specifically the actual gameplay DLC, which drops in April IIRC |
necropig
09.19.19 | GD story was my least fav. Claude, hilda, marianne, lysithea and leonie are cool tho. Dimitri is great, his story had a lot of development. Ingrid, felix, sylvain and mercedes were sweet, annette was useless. Dedue is just a tanky dog. Black eagles playthrough though, hue hue hue. Just make sure to talk to edelgard when you can. Fuck edelgard was great. Couldn't not wife her. Bernadetta has some LOL conversations, e.g her and felixs convos are great. Same with felix and lysithea actually..... CAKE! |
necropig
09.19.19 | Yeah I went balls deep too quickly, haven't read into much of what the dlc offers other than some different costumes for waifus |
heyadam
09.19.19 | yeah good call on saving a third for when the DLC drops - super stoked it’s gonna be new story and stuff. April feels so far away though haha |
heyadam
09.20.19 | ugh I couldn't imagine caring about a different house during a second playthrough lol. That has to feel so weird |
RolyPoly
09.20.19 | Chapter 7 was so much fun, 3 way mock battle is something I've always wanted in this series. It makes me think not having an online mode like that is a missed opportunity. |
heyadam
09.20.19 | I thought I was for sure gonna lose that battle but then I used Ignatz as bait and retreated and then somehow rallied for the win. it was dope as hell lol |
Cygnatti
09.21.19 | I all my playthroughs, Lysithea has 1-shotted the Death Knight every time.
She tends to 1-shot most units from 5 spaces away, tbh. |
necropig
09.21.19 | She is one of the best characters |
GreyShadow
09.21.19 | Lysithea is pretty wild. finally on chapter 12 of my Golden Deer playthrough.
DLC is sounding pretty shnice |
heyadam
09.21.19 | I'm on ch11 of Golden Deer -- Yeah Lysithea is insane. Petra with Killing Edge is fuckin ridiculous though. She crits like 9/10 times lol |
heyadam
10.01.19 | no spoilers from me here, but I’m starting the last battle :’) |
heyadam
10.01.19 | hahaha Lysithea is a god in this game |
heyadam
10.01.19 | Damn, RIP Ignutz lol |
RolyPoly
10.03.19 | Rip ignutz and Lorenz[2] I couldn't save you lol
Okay so chapter 12 is a nightmare when you're underleveled, the hardest part is taking care of Hubert because those endlessly respawning flying beasts are difficult to deal with. Hubert himself was killed in one shot, and eldegard was also very easy to deal with, just had lysithea fire orb her twice.
You're not given a break after all that nonsense since 13 is probably even harder, I almost rage quit, SO many enemies, so many things that can go wrong but somehow managed to kill them all with claude flying in and out of danger and making good use of his gambits, giving support to the avatar character who was dodging everyone in the forests with like 50% avoid (bless her heart), after a miracle and I survived, I circled around the right path to get to my mages, after which the rest was easy but I took my time because I wasnt trying to replay the beginning of the map. 😓 Lorenz and ignutz died here, they were defenseless lol |
RolyPoly
10.03.19 | The redesigns are sooo cute, it makes me luv them all even more, except Ferdinand, he needs a haircut pronto |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | Yo this game is fucking amazing |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | I chose black eagles because edelgaurd duh but I'm feeling shook about having to make a decision soon. Would prefer to side with ed than team zealotry but dunno . |
heyadam
01.02.20 | I thought you'd hate this game bb lmao
ya it's so good. probs gonna wait for that third dlc to launch before I play through it again. I'll just feel so bad playing a different house |
Slex
01.02.20 | was my pick for best game of 2019, game singlehandedly got me into RTS games which I'd never had a shred of interest in before
Also you made the right choice Potsy |
heyadam
01.02.20 | same tho slex. I never really played any RTS' that I can think of. idk who I'm gonna go with next. Probs edelgard but edgeboi lions sounds cool too |
Chortles
01.02.20 | the switch is becoming a nice little home for turn based/tactics games. sunk so much time into this and Into the Breach over the past year and just picked up Wargroove on sale recently -- it's way more Advance Wars than Fire Emblem, but anyone who digs the strategy elements of Three Houses and wants to scratch that itch again will find something to love there. super solid |
Slex
01.02.20 | Yeah I got Wargroove as a present a couple days ago and I'm excited to try it out |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | i read the game is shorter if you take route 4 and side with edelgard but i still want to do that, thoughts? is it more worth it to abandon your moral compass and become a religious zealot or is edelgards route good? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | me every time i talk to Rhea or any of her administrators:
".....are we the bad guys?" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | "I thought you'd hate this game bb lmao"
i thought the Sexy Professor Simulator aspect would ruin it for me but it honestly just made Fire Emblem even better somehow. |
heyadam
01.02.20 | ya idk how they pulled it off. I was onboard for the camp from the beginning but it makes the battles a lot more weighty -- like when I had to gat some students down it was brutal |
heyadam
01.02.20 | fuck now im wanting to play through again lol. gonna finish the botw dlc and then probably jump back on |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | It just adds that extra little bit of gravitas to the permanent death element. Losing a unit forever has always been a heartbreaker, but now that you've spent all this personal time tutoring these kids and turning them from traumatized young-bloods into cold-blooded killer child-soldiers it just feels that much worse to think about losing them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | Cannot wait to see what kind of maladjusted sociopaths they all grow into! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | Anyways this is my favourite Switch game so far, easily. BOTW doesn't count cuz I played it on Wii U. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | Gonna play Astral Chain and then Octopath Traveler next. |
heyadam
01.02.20 | I lost one through my whole playthrough, and tbh I used him as bait and felt awful about it lol. there was no other way unless I undid three hours of a battle by reloading only to probably wind up in the same situation |
heyadam
01.02.20 | I bought Astral Chain and couldn't get super into it yet -- it's got a unique combat system that I just didn't have the energy to learn right away. It seemed like it would be a good time overall tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | Yeah word. I have enjoyed the Bayonetta games enough to be confident I'll enjoy it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | who did you sacrifice?
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heyadam
01.02.20 | Ignutz -- homie was literally useless, but that mighta been bc I failed him as professor lol. He had artist ambitions. rip |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | lol Ignatz is easily the lamest character in the entire game, good call |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | i'd gladly leave him, mercedes, and marianne to get rekt |
heyadam
01.02.20 | I'm not even exaggerating, he literally did negative fuckin damage to the last boss. like the boss gained life from ignutz' attack
marianne is a saint u leave her alone |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | lmao
i also hate dimitri and dedue come to think of it
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Slex
01.02.20 | Astral Chain was super disappointing/mega overrated honestly |
heyadam
01.02.20 | petra is bae.
and honestly slex you're probs the only person I've heard that was disappointed with it -- I didn't give it a good enough shot yet to feel out whether or not I'll end up digging it |
Slex
01.02.20 | The story is soooooooo bland and I was really only super into one of the Astral thingy majigs, I just think it's missing a lot of the creativity and charm of the Bayonetta games |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | "Astral Chain was super disappointing/mega overrated honestly"
well fuck u mister wet blanket. hope i disagree as i already own it... was on sale tho.
petra, ed, hilda and shamir are all top-tier bae status |
Slex
01.02.20 | Fucking love Hilda and Shamir
Also Astral Chain is still pretty damn fun but I really dont get the hype overall |
Saros
01.02.20 | Stories usually take a backseat when it comes to Platinum/action games to be fair. You don't really see people praising stuff like Devil May Cry's story too much. It's all about that sweet combat. |
Chortles
01.02.20 | pots the Edelgard route is very satisfying, i don't know anything about it being longer or shorter than the other routes but it felt just right to me when things wrapped up. go with yr gut. the church is fucked |
Slex
01.02.20 | Saros that's definitely true but they always have a gonzo personality to them that I thought AC was seriously lacking |
heyadam
01.02.20 | was the edelgard or dimitri route a better time? |
Slex
01.02.20 | Edelgard is best route
All 3 are exceptional tho |
heyadam
01.02.20 | sweet. trying to decide if I'll wait until the last dlc drops to do another playthrough or just play again in the next week or so -- I usually don't replay through games a ton, but it's been a few months since I finished the GD route and so it'll seem fresh again |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.02.20 | "pots the Edelgard route is very satisfying, i don't know anything about it being longer or shorter than the other routes but it felt just right to me when things wrapped up. go with yr gut. the church is fucked"
thank you. doin it. fuck the church so hard dude. |
heyadam
01.03.20 | is new game+ worth it (does it like break the game/remove a lot of the fun) or should I just stick with a regular playthrough? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.20 | would love to know that too as i have never found any games NG+ worth the rewards aside from soulsborne games |
heyadam
01.03.20 | hopefully ng+ makes it easier to hatch a mf shiny ignutz |
Slex
01.03.20 | I dunno actually, only game Ive ever done ng+ on is PS4 Spiderman |
heyadam
01.03.20 | I might test out ng+ with Edelgard cause she’s apparently the shortest route — I read it’s pretty good about not forcing anything op on you but you can just pick and choose what boosts you want. I’ll do Dimitri’s story when the last DLC drops in a few months |
PistolPete
01.03.20 | This game was truly amazing and I’ve worked my way through Dimitri’s and the SIlver SNow route by now. But I found the eventual battle and story with “Those Who Slither in the Dark” super underwhelming and very unsatisfying. I already have a game copied over for Edelgard where I chose her route instead but I’m wondering if CLaude’s route has the better story? |
heyadam
01.03.20 | GD has a great route, but it’s the only one I’ve played so far so I have nothing to compare it to |
necropig
01.03.20 | Edelgard is proper waifu and ending picture shows it all |
heyadam
01.03.20 | hope she won't be fascist waifu when the dust settles but hey compromises are necessary I guess |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.20 | I'd still take facist waifu over zealot waifu |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.20 | Fuck Rhea |
heyadam
01.03.20 | Flayn was cool and Seteth got better but yeah Rhea was wildin. I'm v interested to see where this edelgard road ends lol.
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nol
01.05.20 | Y’all need to play the OG fire emblem games. This ones full of content sure, but the fun is stretched far too thin. Just can’t get into this game. |
nol
01.05.20 | It’s nearly impossible to get your hands on, but the GameCube fire emblem with Ike is the very, very best. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.20 | I have. I would never have given this one a chance if I hadn't tbh. I've tried to get my hands on the gamecube one too but it is $$$$$$ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.20 | I got really sick with mono one summer and literally all I did when I wasnt working was play through the old fire emblem games while dying in bed |
nol
01.05.20 | Only reason I have it is cuz we bought it right when it came out, like 15 years ago. Greatest purchase ever, I still own that copy and could sell it for like 200$.
The GBA fire emblem games are so streamlined but a blast to play. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.20 | Yeah I loved the gba ones |
RolyPoly
01.05.20 | FE7=FE12 > radiant dawn > three houses
This game is one of the best, I think its biggest flaw is them implementing the most flexible battle system but then only having 8ish master classes |
heyadam
01.05.20 | I get some older players that may not like this new one, but it’s my first entry and I’m having a great fuckin time, even on my second run |
ArsMoriendi
01.05.20 | I got this game and Mario Maker 2 both for Christmas, but I've only played Mario Maker 2 so far |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | @heyadam yeah, and it's really up to you how much time you invest in any of the non-combat content. How much of the game you spend doing anything in the monastery is completely at your own discretion, so if that stuff isnt 'fun' for some people that's an easily navigated complaint |
Cygnatti
01.06.20 | hilda is the most interesting female char i think |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | I wouldnt say shes the most interesting but she is definitely bae |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | But shes not in my house so I could be missing intriguing back story. From my perspective edelgard is easily the most interesting - her story is fucking badass |
heyadam
01.06.20 | ya I'm just getting a little bit into edelgard's story now and she's super intriguing. loving the Black Eagle route so far. rn I have so many mages I don't know what to do with lol. I recruited Lysithea and Raphael from GD cause there was no way I was gonna want to face them later in the game, and I'll probably swipe Hilda too just cause.
but yeah for sure pots. you can simulate the shit out of it and basically just be constantly battling. I think the battles are way more fun with all the social context tho. |
RolyPoly
01.06.20 | Havent touched this in a month or 2 but now I miss it :c
Has anyone brought up the music for golden deers final map? It's only like the best boss theme ever |
heyadam
01.06.20 | yo so epic. god I had such a good time with that play through — I loooove the first several chapters’ battle music. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | Good luck swiping hilda while in black eagle heyadam. Apparently it is extremely difficult / possibly impossible if doing it from Ed's branch. I'm still giving it everything I've got tho lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | I'm in general having a hard time recruiting anyone aside from the professors, sylvain, and felix tbh but that might be partially due to my strict focus on obtaining hilda lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | Shamir and anna were also easy to recruit ofc |
heyadam
01.06.20 | What are u doing with Caspar? He’s the odd one out for me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | he's my brawler. shooting to make him a grappler soon |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.20 | Another tip I learned the hard way..
If ur doing edelguards route dont make flayn your dancer. |
PistolPete
01.06.20 | I ended up just doing Edelgards route from the saved copy I had already at Chapter 11. Something about starting all the way at Chapter 1 just was too depressing for me. Fuck the church though, 💯 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.20 | Yeah I saved there too so I can go back and do the zealot route |
heyadam
01.07.20 | It’s pretty clear where it’s gonna fork so you can save? And dang I have Lysithea, maybe her or Dorothea would make a good dancer. Also lol at Flayn being in the house when you have to go against the church |
PistolPete
01.07.20 | THe fork happens right after Chapter 10. Just copy and save the file to a second slot and then While you “Explore” that month before CHapter 11, just go talk to Edelgard (or don’t). |
EclipseInYourEyes
01.07.20 | this game seriously makes me wanna buy a switch. But currently I can calm down my hunger for squad based tactical shit with the amazing Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark for PC |
heyadam
01.07.20 | @eclispe it’s one of my favs for sure. right after they announce the pro would be a good time to get a regular switch cause there will be a price drop! there’s a lot of fun shit out for it tbh
@pistol dope! Thanks for the heads up. I’m honestly really loving following up GD with the eagles. you get a cool perspective shift. I’ll do this and the church route and then save the blue lions for the last dlc |
PistolPete
01.07.20 | I'm jealous, I kind think the GD route is the best from what I've read and I kept it for last, not sure I have the energy to do it right away given how burnt out I am after the other three storylines. |
Cygnatti
01.07.20 | i guess i found her (hilda) interesting because she surprised me a few times. i knew edelgard had some shit going on with her.
i'm a big fan of hers too, but i accidentally chose the Church route the first time, and it was just kinda underwhelming. hoping to do edelgard's route when the last wave dlc hits. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.20 | @adam yeah I really wasn't thinking there haha. And yeah the fork is pretty obvious. Save once ur hair is green and you are told to go into the holy tombs. Also make sure to talk to edelgard in in the monetary and go to her palace with her the month before or u cant do it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.20 | Small consolation to my wasted efforts trying to recruit hilda on elelgards path but I just got lysithea via not murdering her ass in battle |
heyadam
01.07.20 | lmao - Lysithea is dope as hell though so that’s tight. She’s funny in BE bc she’s just one of one million mages |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.20 | It becomes pretty awesome when you have all these fighters that are all well versed in magic too tbh, pretty fucking unstoppable.
Wish this game had more master classes tho tbh |
heyadam
01.08.20 | Hubert is a god. His speed is a billion rn and no one is safe lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.08.20 | Lol ya love Hubert |
Uzumaki
01.08.20 | Slight question: picked this back up after time away, don’t remember jack; is it kosher to auto school or should I be focusing on peeps? Currently sided with Edelman’s if that makes things easier... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.08.20 | I've never auto schooled so I cant say for sure. I enjoy doing it myself |
heyadam
01.08.20 | ya I never auto school -- it'll always just go by their goals and pick students at random so it really does pay off to just do it manually imo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.08.20 | Ya there are a few characters that I prefer not to invest those points into unless everyone elses motivation is exhausted so that's why I've avoided it. I have some teachers pets |
heyadam
01.08.20 | Caspar is 100% the Ignatz of my second play through lol. I just can't get that dude to be good, and I have Raphael who is like a billion times better at everything |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.08.20 | Damn. I've never really had any problems with caspar. Hes not my fav by any means but I have him as a warlord at this point and he is solid. Very good movement, can take a hit like a champ, and useful against armor and monsters |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.09.20 | Yooo Rhea is so mad at me lmao
Just finished killing flayn and seteth. Cant wait to take everything she's ever loved from her before murdering her zealot dragon ass |
Uzumaki
01.09.20 | Oh, I've got so much to look forward to now... |
Uzumaki
01.12.20 | Currently onto ch. 6 (search for Flayn), and I’m legit surprised at how easy it is for now to earn exp.; with 1-2 exceptions, all of my house is around lvl 10-13, and those two exceptions are Byleth and Dedue, both around 15. Did you guys certify peeps right away, or did you grind them before capping? Older games had an initial lvl cap of 20, and it always made sense to grind them to 20 before re-sealing (re-certifying) them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.12.20 | I made the mistake of grinding them for half of the game but realized that the amount of stat boosts for the higher classes you get outweigh the majority of lower class perks. I'd recommend just looking up the skills etc you get and only grinding to get the few you might really want (magic users mostly). Otherwise it's way more efficient to re-certify as quickly as you can |
heyadam
01.16.20 | Jesus Christ, rhea is wildin on the BE playthrough |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | Ch. 8-9 at this point and re-certified almost everybody into their second classes; Annette is lagging a little bit tho, only because I don’t want her dependent on Magic all the time. Dedue and Felix are turning into tanks though. |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | Also, I’m starting to pull my protagonist out of extra battles because he levels faster than everyone else and I need to spread the EXP around. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.20 | Felix rules |
necropig
01.16.20 | The salt is real today |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.20 | What |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | Smash Bros. reference; Byleth is the 5th DLC character. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.20 | Are u serious? Thank god. Exactly what we needed. Hope he wields a sword. |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | Once I was able to get Felix motivated and more amenable towards my protagonist, yeah, Felix is turning into a fucking solid character. Got his main focus on swordsmanship, so he’s got the speed, but he’s also toting gauntlets, and that’s where the tank part comes in. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.20 | He makes an excellent mortal savant |
Chortles
01.16.20 | Byleth in smash is dumbbb. as much as i love fire emblem, the smash roster of these characters is laughably homogeneous. the dummies missed the boat to add Hector in a long time ago instead of all these sword users. smh |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | Lol just sub in Arthur from FE: Fates. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.20 | Agreed so hard about hector. At least they finally added a mage and a dragon character but even they have swords rofl. Like ffs give one of these 40 characters a lance or an axe |
Uzumaki
01.16.20 | I believe Byleth can fight with the whole spectrum; sword, axe, lance and bow. Haven’t watched the Direct yet though... |
GreyShadow
01.16.20 | i wanted Edelgard if anyone but this is fine |
nol
01.16.20 | “The salt is real today”
Not super surprised Byleth made it in due to the popularity of this game, more surprised he’s part of the first fighter pass. People will get over it.
Definitely too many FE characters, but it’s like my favorite series that isn’t smash so I’m not complaining, and it’s nice they have the whole weapon triangle appear in one move set.
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necropig
01.16.20 | When byleth was announced I was like meh but once the character traits were shown I was intrigued |
nol
01.16.20 | The garreg Mach stage looks beautiful. |
nol
01.16.20 | The world collectively said “Are you fucking serious?” |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | I'm all for more fire emblem.characters as long as they arent clones. But like 5 of 8 of them are clones lmao |
samwise2000
01.17.20 | new character looks cool. Theres more DLC coming anyways... This character seems a bit more unique than other FE characters anyways. Only makes sense they put a Three Houses character in the game, it was a huge hit last year after all. |
nol
01.17.20 | You gotta think Marth’s moveset is one of Sakurai’s proudest achievements since he’s cloned it three separate times lol. Dolphin Blade is one of the coolest moves in the game.
One of the reasons the game has so many FE characters is because of “EVERYONE IS HERE.” I’d bet Ike, Corrin and one of Chrom or Lucina would be long gone if they hadn’t just said fuck it and brought back everything. |
ramon.
01.17.20 | It's not because FE
It's because Marth clone
How many Mario or Pokemon characters play alike
At the very least I was thoroughly entertained by the amount of potshots Nintendo made at the fanbase during the presentation, and how self aware they are that the fans are tired of swordsmen being added to the game |
heyadam
01.17.20 | the final battle music on the BE route was so epic fuuuuuuck |
Uzumaki
01.17.20 | So I’m curious to see how the fourth house will be...
Not ashamed to say I fell asleep last night whilst watching the Byleth reveal vid; I was invested in the vid, but my body couldn’t hold out any longer. Gonna have to re-watch when I get home. |
nol
01.17.20 | I get why everyone is tired of the Marth clone’s, but from what I’ve heard both chrom and Lucina took like 1 hour of development time, so it’s not like they were taking any better character’s spot, they are just there as a bonus. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | It's not just about this game dude, you cant rationalize the butthurt feelings of like 5 generations of wasted slots on fire emblem clones by saying "but this one has them all!" That's just not the point. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | Also fourth house characters look badass, lovin the male to female ratio |
nol
01.17.20 | that totally is the point, they didn’t have the liberty to pick which characters best fit the roster. and byleth was as inevitable as a Pokémon from Sword and Shield is.
It would’ve been weird if Three Houses got no representation in smash. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I would have been fine with Byleth's inclusion if it was like #3 of the next fighter pass. But the final, closely guarded secret to DLC pack 1? It should have been something else. I'm not one to get all upset about not getting the fighter I want, I haven't cared about any DLC fighters so far but they haven't bothered me. But making Byleth the 5th fighter is just so tone deaf. It's like they were looking to piss people off with this one.
That all said I swear if Dante doesn't get in Smash I'll kill myself |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | and they DID have the liberty to pick which characters best fit the roster for the last THREE games before this and chose to waste resources on Fire Emblem clones every. single. time. Four in a row if you don't dismiss Chrom (not sure why you are trying to). Whether or not Byleth was inevitable is completely beside the point. |
heyadam
01.17.20 | omg I’ve been off all socials and this was the first time hearing of the new house. I wonder how that’ll affect the main story — I’ll be doing the blue lions for this last one |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | I honestly don't know who's dick you're trying to suck noler but people being less than ecstatic over new Fire Emblem characters considering how notorious the franchise is for its over-saturation of half-baked clones is completely warranted. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I still havent finished my first playthrough of 3H. That game is just way too easy and repetitive in both aspects of gameplay. The strategy is mindnumbingly boring and simple, and the dating sim school simulator was really fun at first but after 40 hours became a checklist of chores. I was really into the story but put it down to play Astral Chain and I haven't picked it up since. |
nol
01.17.20 | No doubt it’s tone deaf, but it’s also just not that big of a deal once you compare it to the rest of what the game has to offer. And Byleth looks fun.
It is more of a smash 4 problem, which most people will agree was the weakest game in the series. Corrin is dumb, Lucina should be a Marth costume, and Chrom wouldn’t exist if Lucina hadn’t happened.
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | |"I would have been fine with Byleth's inclusion if it was like #3 of the next fighter pass. But the final, closely guarded secret to DLC pack 1? It should have been something else. I'm not one to get all upset about not getting the fighter I want, I haven't cared about any DLC fighters so far but they haven't bothered me. But making Byleth the 5th fighter is just so tone deaf. It's like they were looking to piss people off with this one."
agreed. or they could have at least forgo'd the self-indulgence of making fucking chrom a new launch character |
heyadam
01.17.20 | you can always bump up the difficulty Gallantin lol, esp with maddening. but I get it, it is easy
also I’ve always been so bad at smash it hurts |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "It is more of a smash 4 problem, which most people will agree was the weakest game in the series. Corrin is dumb, Lucina should be a Marth costume, and Chrom wouldn’t exist if Lucina hadn’t happened."
it's a problem with every single entry in the franchise sans the first one. 4 is literally the only one to have introduced fire emblem characters with unique movesets so if anything its the least obvious offender. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I don't really care anymore, I was mad at the initial announcement because I was SO certain it was gonna be Dante or Travis Touchdown announcement, and I was like "oh man this Fire Emblem skit is gonna be such a wild fake-out, they know exactly how overplayed FE is in Smash so it's gonna be funny as hell to see this skit interruped by a different game character"
But then it wasn't a skit for a fakeout. It was just the reality. And I turned the stream off and was mad for about 20 mins then forgot about it and now I don't care. I was really just invested because I was excited for a new fighter that would make me want to play Smash again. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "Chrom wouldn’t exist if Lucina hadn’t happened."
you wouldn't exist if your parents hadn't fucked so i guess all your mistakes are their fault too right |
nol
01.17.20 | Yeah melee definitely didn’t add fire emblem characters with unique movesets
Pots why are you like this |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | the fuck are you talking about? roy? is there something wrong with your brain? |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | "you can always bump up the difficulty Gallantin lol, esp with maddening. but I get it, it is easy"
I played it on Hard with permadeath on and was still bored to tears by how easy it was. That's why I didn't finish it. I haven't even unlocked Maddening yet.
Also don't get me started on my rant about why Permadeath mode in a character-based Role Playing Game is stupid as all hell and actually serves to make the game easier. If I play the game again I'm definitely having permadeath turned off so that way I'd be more willing to let characters fall in battle without rewinding.
But then bc the game lets almost all its main cast be killed it makes them all less important than they should be and it makes Byleth and Edelgard/Deerboy/Blondeboi way too OP from day 1 bc it needs to account for the possibility that you could play the game with ONLY them if all your other units die. So bc the game is beatable with only 2 units, it makes every other unit redundant bc Byleth will 1-shot destroy absolutely everything.
Man permadeath fucking ruined what could have been a really good strategy game
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Keyblade
01.17.20 | so there's marth, then 4 other marths, ike, robin and corrin...sweet |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | yep Roy, Marth, Ike, Chrom, Lucina are all variations of the same exact model. Robin and Corrin are literally the only two that are unique.
Byleth does look fun and i'm glad they are switching it up a bit.
@gallantin permadeath was literally like the best thing about the franchise at the beginning, would be preposterous if they didnt have it now |
Keyblade
01.17.20 | is FE the most represented series now? kinda weird if u think about it if it is |
nol
01.17.20 | melee introduced the fire emblem moveset, that’s what I meant.
@keyblade: Mario and pokemon still have more characters |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | i do agree with the fact that you could potentially beat the game with 2 OP units instead of having the game be pretty much broken if you lose all your units is weak, its definitely easy compared to the older games. but i disagree that permadeath makes characters less important, at least in the greater scheme of things, the fact that characters died forever in these games has always made losing them and having to weigh redoing a battle or carrying on without them a heavy heart jerking decision and one of the best things about the game. it also meant you had to actually make each character competent if you wanted to carry them through. so if anything not having permadeath makes them more peripheral. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "melee introduced the fire emblem moveset, that’s what I meant"
how autistic are you for real |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | zelda probably has close to as many now too since we have 3 whole links |
Keyblade
01.17.20 | if u count pokemon trainer as 1 character, there are only 8 pokemon characters, so same as FE. mario has 10 so only 2 more, it's really weird that FE is so well represented. nobody knew anything about it til marth and roy appeared in melee lol |
Uzumaki
01.17.20 | I don’t play with permadeath right away only because I’m stupid and I’ll always overlook something in my strategy and end up losing 1-2 characters in almost any given battle.
Played through FE: Shadow Dragon and have a mage up in like the third to last battle, only to find that particular mage was the only one who could wield a certain type of magic that could seriously dent the end boss. Lesson learned. |
nol
01.17.20 | The end of Shadow Dragon is nightmarish. All those fucking ballistas.....
I was born and raised on permadeath, wouldn’t feel like Fire Emblem without it. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | The fact that there is so much content designed around characters and their personal relationships, it's so dumb that they're able to be killed permanently.
I understand this is kinda like "the ultimate motivator" but when half the game is not a strategy game, but a JRPG high school sim, then your two core gameplay styles are at odds with one another. It means that yes, you can spend hours chatting with and caring for this character, but if they die? Well who cares lol the game doesn't. Everyone forgets about them instantly and they have no affect on story. It just makes the game emptier and shallower because of it.
It makes so that bloody Mario Versus Fucking Rabbids is a deeper and more complex strategy title this. At least in that game battles felt intense and like they were real, despite it not having permadeath.
Point being that if you're gonna make characters killable: make their loss feel appropriately real. And maybe add like a limit that if enough characters die you don't have the strength to beat the game and get an early game over, bc being able to steamroll the game just as Byleth and X-house leader is way too easy.
I imagine if I played the game with permadeath turned off I would have almost no issues with it as a strategy game bc I wouldn't be so hesitant to make a few crazier decisions. Call me stupid but I like being kind of a malevolent warlord in my strategy games. I like sending certain units off to certain failure in order to make distractions or create gaps in the enemy positions and so on. I don't mind one-hit K-Os as much either. Right now the game is either every enemy misses or the one special enemy instakills your party. So why use your team at all if you know that the special enemy can instakill them? Just send in Byleth alone, they'll destroy everything just fine. Ugh, anyway yea. I'm gonna replay 3H eventually but I'm gonna play it with permadeath off bc that feature just flattened my enjoyment so hard. I want to be risky and stupid in a strategy game, I don't want to turtle up and use my best unit for everything. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | Games like XCOM and Phoenix Point do permadeath so much better when units aren't in-depth characters you're meant to date and love forever, but just soldiers. I can attached to my soldiers but I can also live with them dying. Idk FE just really fumbles the permadeath thing and it's an actively worse strategy game because of it. |
heyadam
01.17.20 | and yet I had a blast finishing two playthroughs :’) |
RolyPoly
01.17.20 | When I played maddening I needed the entire team to beat the game not just a few characters, hard and maddening is a large difficulty spike. Permadeath isnt that big of an issue if you know what you're doing even on the highest difficulties, that's part of what makes the series so thrilling being able to clear a map without anyone dying. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I'm yawning just thinking about how boring that sounds. |
heyadam
01.17.20 | take a nap dawg |
heyadam
01.17.20 | So your desired strategy is being able to have your characters just die multiple times? Lol |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | My desired strategy is for losing units to not mean losing 20 hours of character content, and for it to instead just be a punishment on the gameplay end of things.
Currently, losing a unit means nothing for gameplay and everything for story, which is not very compelling design.
In XCOM I can lose a unit or damage a unit and it could cripple my frontline for future missions while still making it fun and interesting to strategise around what I still can use. Do i send in my crippled tank? Or do I do without him for a mission and hope a less-experienced soldier can hold up in this late-game mission?
In Mario V Rabbids I can do fuckin crazy shit like launch Peach across the map and then get her to blast 4 enemies away and she might die next turn but it will have been a viable strategy to do that of I don't need her for the rest of the mission. Then when the mission is over she's back on my team and I even though I lost her in the fight I was still able to do something fun and interesting with her.
In Fire Emblem? There is no interesting strategising around the potential damaging and loss of units. If they die, they're irreplacable. If they're damaged, it doesn't foldover into other battles. But maybe it's fun and you can do crazy shit? Well, yes, you can...on non-permadeath mode. If I want to send Ferdinand out across the map on his horse at the start of the game to kill the boss, I can, and he'll probs get swarmed and die after that, but like...if permadeath is off at least that option is fun. If it's on, I'm just gonna continue to send him against weak units or just not use him at all bc he kinds sucks tbh.
And you say the game is far more intense and difficult on the hardest difficulty which is kinda no-duh but to unlock that difficultt you have to spent 50 hours doing a boring difficulty first, and honestly? Maddening being way harder doesn't sell it for me either bc "way harder" in this game just means more insta-gibs by random enemies and I'm not really down with an RNG-based crit system in my deep and character driven school simulator. |
nol
01.17.20 | tldr |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I mean it's fine if y'all disagree with me, it's just not what I look for in a strategy game. I like having fun with my games. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "I like having fun with my games."
He said, while playing Death Stranding
Have you played any of the other Fire Emblem games Snox? Cuz it sounds kinda like you haven't i dunno.
If anything they never should have started giving you a choice to turn OFF permadeath. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who fell in love with the OG titles who would argue against that. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I've never played any other FE games but I really don't see how any other game in the series could change my current feelings about how 3H works.
Permadeath off is the only viable option as far as I'm concerned for this game. Maybe it's different in others bc they're not school simulators on the side, but yea, for 3H permadeath was the wrong choice and actively made my first playthrough boring and unstrategic. It was a bad strategy game. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | Anyways it sounds like you just hate everything about Fire Emblem that separates it from being a dime-a-dozen cookie-cutter strat game and if its not for you based on what makes it fundamentally the franchise that it is (although some of your criticisms don't really apply to old titles) thats cool but the game you want it to be sounds like a vapid piece of shit too so maybe calm ur titties |
nol
01.17.20 | It’s not that I disagree with you. It’s that I need a summary. 3H was not my favorite FE game, but I do respect the sheer amount of content. |
nol
01.17.20 | “If anything they never should have started giving you a choice to turn OFF permadeath. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who fell in love with the OG titles who would argue against that.“
Agreed. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I mean yeah that's exactly what I was saying. Everything 3H did different from other strategy games is why I didn't like it. And I know people love it so I'm clearly an outlier here but yea. I feel like I explained why I felt it was boring and tedious and if other people didn't then that's good. I wish I enjoyed it too.
On the inverse tho, the character interactions are all 5/5 very good and the story is actually great, way better than I expected. I still intend to play older FE games (at least, the 3DS titles). Maybe i'll like them more. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | Has anyone here played Into the Breach? Maaan talk about a strategy game that really likes to drive home how much of a cunt you are for not being a perfect strategist. Now THAT'S a masterpiece of strategy design. |
nol
01.17.20 | Get an emulator, play a GBA fire emblem. It’s concise where this game is drawn out. You can’t just rush the enemies in any FE game tho, that’s how you get kilt. |
heyadam
01.17.20 | I think the time rewind shit is what makes it stupid easy but you can also opt out of that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | TH loses a lot of the pressure and difficulty that the old games had by making certain units way too OP and giving you the option to turn off perma-death so I'd agree that the battle portion of the game is definitely not as good as past games, but it makes up for that with Sexy Professor Dating Sim by vastly expanding the characterization and story, which in turn makes you feel more connected to certain characters than ever before. Problem is with permadeath turned off it doesn't even matter if you feel more personal attachment to any of them because they are now cannon-fodder. If this level of rich characterization was implemented on the combat of the GBA titles, with no option to turn off permadeath, it would be the perfect Fire Emblem game. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | Not really interested in going back to the GBA titles. Not even *that* interested in going back to the 3DS games now, but they're on my list. I'm sure they're fine games, but probably not for me. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | I think you will like older titles better Snox. You won't get as rich of story-telling and character interactions but it will probably change your tune about certain mechanics you didn't like in 3h |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | The GBA ones are the best ones so i dunno what to tell you better to play the best or just not play at all considering you already hopped on at the terminus station |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I still have a backlog of games so long that i'll probably never get to them. Which is kinda annoying with backlogs. So many games you intend to get to but never do. There will always be something that interests me more.
But in case you can't tell, i'm pretty deeply against the deep characterisation of units in a strategy game. I feel like that's the biggest failing of 3H, and if the GBA aren't character-based like 3H then yeah they're probably way better. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | oh yeah i forgot about the time rewind spam i literally never use it. which says something on its own about the games difficulty compared to old ones lol |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | If the GBA games come to Switch or something I'd give them a go. I don't like emulating so I avoid it. And I'll only play the 3DS ones if I find them cheap physically, but they're getting harder to find now too so yeah everything just needs to be ported to Switch. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "I still have a backlog of games so long that i'll probably never get to them. Which is kinda annoying with backlogs. So many games you intend to get to but never do. There will always be something that interests me more."
lol then why did you bring up that you intended to play the older games at all u prickly pretentious fuck
"But in case you can't tell, i'm pretty deeply against the deep characterisation of units in a strategy game. I feel like that's the biggest failing of 3H, and if the GBA aren't character-based like 3H then yeah they're probably way better."
You still grow attached to your units in a way that makes permadeath literally hurt your feelings but you get attached to them more based on their usefulness in combat. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | so there are certain characters that you will strategically send to their permadeaths anyway but others that might surprisingly die like an hour into a brutal mission that make you want to fucking cry and break your gameboy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | the reward in it is similar to whether or not you can find that special masochistic joy in dark souls games |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | I intend to play all games in my backlog :( I just also accept I probably won't get to a lot of them.
Oh yeah look I'm all for getting attached to units in combat and feeling sad when they die, but I'm against the fact that 3H has 20 hours of gameplay behind getting to know Bernadetta that I would just lose completely if she died. That's why the hybrid of a friendship/dating sim mixed with a strategy game fell flat for me.
I get that maybe some people would like that about it and like that you could lose your fave char, but I don't like that 3H doesn't really change in its story when a unit dies. Nobody cares. Game goes on. A whole character and all their interactions are lost. And for me, those are the main draw of the game so losing them to a battle system I cared about way less was just...annoying. |
Uzumaki
01.17.20 | Also, if you're relying on Byleth and 1-2 OP characters, then you're kinda focusing on the wrong things with leveling...
I also agree, the time rewind option is dumb; it sounds silly, but I enjoy save-scumming more than the time rewind. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | Yeah I get what ur saying snox, it seems 3H is clearly a bad jumping off point |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | Like I love that in XCOM i have a soldier that i've created a backstory for and named and groomed them from mission 1 and they come with me all the way to the final mission and then get brutally murdered and it's so sad but motivating. I love that tension and possibility of losing everything you have. But 3H specifically does that poorly bc all the bonding happens outside of the relatively dull and short combat sequences. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | "Also, if you're relying on Byleth and 1-2 OP characters, then you're kinda focusing on the wrong things with leveling.."
I was doing the opposite actually. I hated how strong Byleth and Edelgard were so I never used them at all after the midway point. The game became funner when my units actually struggled against things. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | "Yeah I get what ur saying snox, it seems 3H is clearly a bad jumping off point"
Yea thats all i was getting at really. I wasnt trying to diss FE as a whole, I just really didnt like how 3H handled it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | "Also, if you're relying on Byleth and 1-2 OP characters, then you're kinda focusing on the wrong things with leveling..."
Honestly dude, for me I had to literally intentionally either not use, or leave Byleth and Ed behind as much as possible just to let everyone else catch up. I neglected the fuck out of them. Spent much more time with virtually all my other units and those two were STILL massively OP. |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | "Honestly dude, for me I had to literally intentionally either not use, or leave Byleth and Ed behind as much as possible just to let everyone else catch up. I neglected the fuck out of them. Spent much more time with virtually all my other units and those two were STILL massively OP." [123] |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | One more thing I will say tho: I did really enjoy the class system |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | i actually neglected Ed and Byleth so much that I ended up not having enough support between them to marry by accident lmao
which i fully intended to
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | Class system is great, even better in the old games as well though tbqh. 3H needs more master classes |
Gallantin
01.17.20 | Bring GBA games to Switch is my final contribution.
GBA games need more support from Nintendo. |
Uzumaki
01.17.20 | I don't mean that as a knock against you, and leaving the main character/several OP characters behind and level others up seems to be a common trait, at least for me, across FE: Awakening, Fates and here. |
Cygnatti
01.17.20 | the master classes make this game fall on a flat note by the end of the game :/
the advanced classes are so good tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.20 | i want that one zelda remake that was for ds or summin to release on switch so bad |
Chortles
01.18.20 | From what I've read the master classes are only there if they suit you/your character and that there's not a real disadvantage to leaving characters at just advanced if u want. Kind of a bummer either way tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.20 | the disadvantage would be not getting as many skill bonuses' |
Cygnatti
01.18.20 | The main disadvantage is that you're missing out on a *weapon*flaire skill, which +5 damage is nothing to scoff at, but sometimes it isn't optimal and other skills that adv classes gives you are more worthwhile. Also, master classes tend to have +1 more move - very important!
The main disadvantage for master classes is the poor variety, the very unintuitive requirements, and the significantly worse stat growth rates (barring a few notable ones like wyvern master and the master fighter class).
Some advanced classes have abilities that you can only use while being that class currently! Idk exactly how good these moves are tho. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.20 | "and the significantly worse stat growth rates (barring a few notable ones like wyvern master and the master fighter class)."
what? they all say they have like the best ones, they all have like 3 +3 stat bonuses' |
nol
01.18.20 | Weird that so many masterclasses ride horses.
And customization does add to the game but I’d prefer it if characters had a set class that you can’t change. Probly just the purist in me talking. |
Cygnatti
01.18.20 | @pots, the stat boosts are good but the growth rates tend to be not so great (these are normally hidden).
Stats that you get, just for being in that class: https://serenesforest.net/three-houses/classes/stat-boosts/
Growth rate boosts you get for being that class while leveling up:
https://serenesforest.net/three-houses/classes/growth-rates/
Main problem is that almost all master classes have negative speed growths and speed is honestly the most broken stat of all. (all horse-units have negative speed growths).
This isn't something that you'd notice in Normal, and often times, in even Hard mode play throughs, but in Maddening it's crazy much it matters. |
Cygnatti
01.18.20 | ex: Bow Knight is such a good ranged class in every single way, I turn all my archers into Bow Knights or Wyvern/Falcon Knights.
But looking at its growth rates: +10% Hp, -5% Spd, +5% Charm
is so bad compared to Sniper's: +10% Hp, +5% Str, +20% Dex, +5% Charm |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.20 | Damn this is all v good to know |
Uzumaki
01.18.20 | Sniper > bow knight. |
nol
01.28.20 | Dudes I’m so fucking stoked to play Byleth in smash tomorrow. Despite the haters.
Been playing this game a lot since the announcement too, now that I’m getting into the groove of it instead of playing sporadically I’m enjoying it much more. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.28.20 | oh thats happening already, i guess i will give her a rip tomorrow as well |
nol
01.28.20 | It’ll probably be late tomorrow, or maybe even Wednesday, but she’s coming before midweek. |
nol
01.28.20 | You know you’re on the wrong side of a war when your Advisor starts talking about distributing a manifesto.
Water you doing, Edelgarddd? |
Uzumaki
01.28.20 | On ch.18 of the BL route, and I’m really enjoying the game now that I’m getting more and more into it. I do pull certain units out of combat during auxiliary/paralogue battles so that others can level up though. Byleth and Dimitri are almost unnecessarily OP, I could prolly steamroll maps with them and Mercedes hanging back as a healer.
I do wish I could’ve recruited more, guess that’ll be a focus on the next playthroughs.
Mercedes has become bae personified, with Shamir a close second. |
nol
01.29.20 | Byleth fucks. |
Uzumaki
01.29.20 | Annette and Hannemann are kinda sucky, but I think it’s only because I’m trying to get them to rely more on weapons than magic. Magic, they can sling with the best of them, but get them alone or leave an opening in your lines and they’re 1-shot toast. For anyone who didn’t, RECRUIT FUCKING CYRIL! Just like with practically any “peasant/commoner” character in FE, they take a while to grind, but by the later chapters become some of the more OP characters. Right now he’s playing backup tank to Dedue, and he can take a hit better than Dedue, AND he’s better rounded with weapons/stats than Dedue; not quite up there in HP like Dedue, no, but can he dish the pain out. Also, I’ve got to start feeding the characters with the perma-boost stat objects to help them out... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.30.20 | wtf mercedes is near dead last for bae status
also edelgard is the right side of history, Rhea is a villain full stop.
and not feelin' Byleth in smash very much yet tbh although i appreciate the originality of her move set. she is very... stiff. could be a learning curve character but i find it hard to intuitively combo with her |
nol
01.30.20 | I excel with slower moving but distance based movesets so I’m gonna fuck shit up with Byleth whether I want to or not
Her tether grab seems hella useful, and the range of the Lance is sweet, especially in her aerials. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.30.20 | "I excel with slower moving but distance based movesets so I’m gonna fuck shit up with Byleth whether I want to or not"
sometimes with some of the newer ssb characters i can never tell if i just don't understand how to use them so its reassuring to hear you agree she's a bit heavy and i'm not just completely misusing her.
also appreciate that you also refer to byleth as 'she'. |
ramon.
01.30.20 | that back air is fucking insane |
Uzumaki
01.30.20 | I’m hurt, Pots. Took time with Mercedes, leveled her up, got her into a decent archer/healer/gremory, and worked her into a potential S-rank. What’s not to like? I will agree her outlook is kinda milquetoast, but when she’s got your back no matter what, chapter in and chapter out... |
nol
01.30.20 | Mercedes English voice actor makes me want to put my head thru a wall. Pretty much didn’t choose Dimitri just to avoid her lololol. |
heyadam
01.30.20 | I was watching a friend playing and he was recruiting Mercedes too but on the BE route which was super interesting lol. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.30.20 | lmao ugh Mercedes and her stupid frumpy shoulder blanket possibly the only chick in the game who is worse is Marianne
Also my biggest complaint with the game is that i cant turn on japanese audio with english subs |
Uzumaki
01.30.20 | IIRC it’s a free downloadable patch, cuz that’s how I’m playing it.
Subs, never dubs. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.31.20 | dude whaaaat
gonna look into this |
Gyromania
01.31.20 | Boring ass game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.31.20 | cool input thanks |
GreyShadow
01.31.20 | Marianne is precious doe her A support made me so sad.
Mercedes is unfortunately kinda lame personality wise buuuuut that was from me recruiting her on BE before Jeritza was a thing and I still have to do my BL playthrough |
GreyShadow
01.31.20 | i'm glad i'm gonna have so much content to come back to after the DLC. |
heyadam
01.31.20 | Yeah gonna do my final playthrough once the last DLC drops. This month right? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.31.20 | feb 12! |
nol
01.31.20 | “Subs, never dubs“
Get your anime-watching philosophies outta here. I’m not reading all that dialogue lol. |
Uzumaki
01.31.20 | Not necessarily anime, but more foreign films-philosophy; I prefer hearing the original language being spoken, as I get more emotional nuance and earnestness than by hearing someone else’s take. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.31.20 | "Get your anime-watching philosophies outta here. I’m not reading all that dialogue lol."
Now thats a garbage ass take if i ever seen one |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.31.20 | I found the audio option and put it to Japanese and started NG+ yesterday. Already vastly prefer it. Dubs lose so much more to translation. Also fucking christ am I grateful to not have to ever hear Petra's english voice ever again. |
Uzumaki
01.31.20 | Ayyeee. |
heyadam
01.31.20 | *petra nods* I am in agreement |
Uzumaki
02.01.20 | Well, started another play, this time with the Golden Deer; used the save-game data to get a jump on recruitment and skills, and I'll carry that over into the Black Eagles when I finish this. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.13.20 | Wow so Yuri is a trap lmao
Totally thought he was a chick |
heyadam
02.14.20 | I’m gonna jump into my last playthrough after I finish Persona 5 lolol. You liking the dlc so far?? |
GreyShadow
02.14.20 | Yuri's hot, i cant wait to gay him.
the music is soooooooo good too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.14.20 | Can you romance the dlc characters? Fuckin better
Dlc is neat so far |
GreyShadow
02.14.20 | yes you can! you can S male Byleth with Yuri and that makes me happy, it'll be the first time i do a same sex marriage.
I only played the first chapter and moved each DLC unit once on the 2nd chapter and i already love it lol. it's cool having all the house leaders on one team too. |
GreyShadow
02.14.20 | and honestly, just using new classes is exciting enough for me.
the game was already massive and for $25 this DLC is a pretty sweet deal |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.14.20 | Can u lesbian hapi or constance? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.14.20 | I'm not stoked that I have to be Male byleth to romance Hilda tbqh |
sixdegrees
02.22.20 | my hilda died in the underground chamber fight due to my own stupidity and then I found out you apparently cant recruit her in black eagles lol rip |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | yeah u can only recruit her if u go church route in be |
sixdegrees
02.22.20 | I'm probably just going to replay golden deer at some point, I also didnt have a grasp on recruitment during that run and had to kill bernie & petra post time skip lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | Dude u lost like all 3 of the bae-est baes in the game in one run lmao. Altho new monster whisper chick is pretty bae too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | I redid my black eagle's run before moving on.. just wanted to do each route with the same grasp on the game I have now... plus I didnt get to in lesbians ed in my first run which was heartbreaking. Doing church route now off the save from that run and then will do deer |
sixdegrees
02.22.20 | yeah fortunately I got all of the BE girls (minus edelgard ofc) during my BL run, I was planning on replaying golden deer anyway since my leone and ignatz also died and I dont think I completed all the supports. the only upside was since my roster was super small all of my units were OP as fuck by the end. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | Kinda prefer having a small roster tbh, with 4 routes to play having to grind extra characters and recruit people ur gonna get in a different run anyway starts to feel like a drag |
sixdegrees
02.22.20 | yeah I went all in on recruiting during my BL run and found that I just ended up pretty much abandoning units by the end, I much prefer the small roster but I'm trying to find a balance in my current BE game, only recruited Lorenz, Lysithea, Marianne & Felix so far. |
nol
02.22.20 | I mean you never actually use your full roster, collecting as many characters as you can is just fun.
I always made sure to get every single character in the OG fire emblems. |
sixdegrees
02.22.20 | idk, it bothers me when units fall way behind or if I'm never really able to build them effectively |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | "I mean you never actually use your full roster, collecting as many characters as you can is just fun."
I had this attitude for my first run but not gonna lie grinding your support with everyone is a fucking chore and I much prefer getting to slaughter as many of the monasteries students as possible in the second half than having maximum levels of free-time grinding. That shit is b o r i n g |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | "idk, it bothers me when units fall way behind or if I'm never really able to build them effectively"
smae. |
nol
02.22.20 | In past games you get all the characters thru the natural progression of the story, so it’s not really the same for this one. So yeah getting all the characters in this one is relatively worthless. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | i know i fucked with the gba titles hella |
Cygnatti
02.22.20 | Hard mode is easy enough for me to go full communist mode and train every character I bothered to recruit. Doesn't seem feasible in maddening tho.
Also, dlc is actually kinda hard. Can't wait to start a new game plus with the new classes. |
Uzumaki
02.22.20 | I think I recruited everyone who can be recruited, and yeah, it’s not necessary but it’ll guide my recruitment going forward as I figure everyone out. Just gotta work on everyone’s support bonds...
Think I’ll do the DLC between my GD and BE playthroughs. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.22.20 | Dlc was significantly harder than main story ya |
Whispered4tw
02.23.20 | is there a proper order to play these routes or is it just pick whatever you fancy? |
Uzumaki
02.23.20 | Far as I know, no, but each successive playthrough with a different house fleshes the overall story out better. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.23.20 | Pick ur fancy, just know black eagles edelgard route is shortest and got a bit short changed and black eagles church route is generally considered the worst |
Uzumaki
03.21.20 | So, to clarify there’s 2 routes for the Black Eagles? For and against the church?
Just started the Black Eagle route and I can see the end getting closer, little by little...
~240 hrs. total so far, roughly 90 hrs. per house and I didn’t even work the support bonds for the DLC, so that took less than 10 hrs. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | Yes, the path splits in chapter 12 or something like that. If you want edelgards route there is one month where she asks you to come back to the empire with her when you talk to her in the monestary. Do it. It wont lock you out of church route and but doesnt lock you into edelgard route either, but you cant do her route unless you go with her that month. Then in 12 or so you will be presented with an extremely obvious choice that will determine whether you go with edel or the church |
Uzumaki
03.21.20 | Thanks. I’ll still play both routes for completionist sake, but thanks for the heads-up! |
Trebor.
03.21.20 | I'm so fucking addicted |
PistolPete
03.21.20 | COVID allowing me to find enough time to crush the last route I haven't done yet (Claude's). Anybody done the expansion route, any good? I think it's like $30 to add on. |
Uzumaki
03.21.20 | Jury’s our right now. Implementing the Abyssian units in my current run, so we’ll see how it goes. Story-wise, it provides some *SPOILERS!!!!!* familial context. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | @pete the dlc side story is good, its harder than the main game |
PistolPete
03.21.20 | Beautiful, will dl after Golden Deer then |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | I'd recommend doing the dlc before you do your final main game route unless you want to end up redoing one of the routes just to play through with any of the ashen wolves on your team, or to see their supports, or to bone any of them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | To elaborate, the dlc doesnt open up a new route in the main game or anything, it just makes the dlc characters recruitable in the main game once you beat it, so if you dont want to do a route twice, save one for after you do the dlc |
Uzumaki
03.21.20 | What Potsy said. ^^^ |
PistolPete
03.21.20 | Ah i see what you mean after reading a bit more. So the dlc itself has a separate story of seven chapters or something like that but if I want to have these characters back in the main story then it’s better to beat the seven chapters now and then go back to Claudes route where I’ll be able to access them again |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | Yes exactly. Dlc side story is entirely independent of the main game. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | You get hilda, ashe, lindhardt, the three house leaders, and the four dlc characters as your team for the side story if I remember correctly |
PistolPete
03.21.20 | Filthy team! 👌🏻 Yeah sorry if I made anyone repeat i figured this has already been covered at least once in the thread but tl;dr |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | Yeah it's a solid ass crew |
heyadam
03.21.20 | I have the Blue Lions and the church route left, and then the dlc. Probs gonna knock that out super soon |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | I ended up doing edelgard route twice lmao. But I saved and have continued church route. So I have to finish that and then golden deer and lions. |
heyadam
03.21.20 | Yeah I have it saved halfway through for the church route — idk how I feel about doing lions last, but yolo lol. I’m excited to see the dlc fasho tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | I didn't get to lesbians edelgard my first time through cuz I fucked up and I also fucked up and couldnt recruit hilda for church route that same time so I just said fuck it and did it again. I have now smashed gash with the tyrant princess and have hilda for church. Only problem is for church route i can only lesbians dorothea cuz I didnt get dragon bitch or loli-me support high enough so that's also disappointing.
I'm also disappointed that I have to be Male byleth to make sweet love to hilda. So I guess next route I'll do that and then I want to romance Hapi for my final route. Not sure if I can lesbians her.. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.21.20 | I always play as female avatars given the choice so this is deeply upsetting for me |
heyadam
03.23.20 | haha gave in and got AC potsy? I’m only on day three but it’s a good time. Slow, but good.
Hilda is great tho, I was bummed I couldn’t really recruit her for Edegard’s route. I actually really enjoyed my GD playthrough and so I just wanna recruit most of them lol. How much extra time does the dlc add give or take? I’ll probably actually start my Blue Lions playthrough tonight after I finish my island shit for the day lol
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.23.20 | Lol sure did me and my girlfriend are going at it hard.
And I'd say DLC is about 10 hours or so |
heyadam
03.23.20 | Dude yeah I’m grinding so much on materials and shit. Almost finished my second loan too.
And should I maybe do all the ashen wolves shit before my last playthrough? I misread it when I was first looking into it and I thought it happened during a playthrough, but realize now it’s separate and can give your main game extra stuff as it goes on |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.23.20 | Definitely do the ashen wolves stuff before your last playthrough |
heyadam
03.23.20 | Dope, sounds good. I’ll probably do another GD run at some point in the future after I finish the side story/blue lions. And I technically still have the church playthrough but I heard it’s basically GD but more Rhea lol |
heyadam
03.26.20 | bruh Hapi and Yuri are d0pe |
Uzumaki
03.26.20 | See, during the DLC Hapi and Constance were a bit of a glass cannon for me, but that may have been because the AI liked to gangbang both of them no matter how far I tried to keep them out of harm’s way. |
heyadam
03.26.20 | Ya not sure about Constance, both her and Hapi’s mobility helps for sure — Yuri is a fuckin tank tho. He just single-handedly decimated a group of mages and thieves on counter attacks lol, it was brutal |
heyadam
03.26.20 | he’s like Petra + Lysithea in one lol. I’m only three battles in tho |
Uzumaki
03.26.20 | I like Yuri’s trickster ability, where I can move him after taking action. |
heyadam
03.26.20 | If Yuri can be recruited in main game (no spoilers pls) then fuck Felix for my last playthrough lo. Yeah the trickster ability is awesome |
GreyShadow
03.26.20 | AC is so good but god damn i need to get back into Ashen Wolves so i can finally play BL. i got to, i believe chapter 4, where you have to escape in like 10 turns or something, saw the enemy units, let out a big "ughhhhhhhhhh", tried it for like 5 minutes and haven't played since.
love me a good hard chapter but after the bs randomness with the victory condition for the one before it, i think i needed a break lol |
heyadam
03.26.20 | Haha AC as in animal crossing? I’ve neglected my island for a day and a half bc I dove back into this. Nookyboi gonna bring his wrath down on me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.26.20 | I love felix :( |
heyadam
03.26.20 | All of his c rank supports so far have been insuffffffferable lol. I recruited him my first playthrough when I was doing GD, but I had also recruited Petra and she was a god on that run so Felix didn’t see a ton of action. Maybe he’ll grow on me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.26.20 | Oh dude I stopped actually reading support ranks long ago lmao I'm hella impatient
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Uzumaki
03.26.20 | I recruited Felix on my current run; he and Petra are gonna wipe the map the way their stats level up. |
heyadam
03.26.20 | I love supports in general, esp since I don’t really know anyone from BL haha. But yeah I mean maybe now that I know the game better I can make better use of him than I did in my first run, but he ended up not being super useful to me. Petra was god tier tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.26.20 | yeah petra is one of the best units in the entire game without a doubt |
heyadam
03.26.20 | She legit felt like she had a 90% crit rate. Also, chapter three of ashen wolves was some straight bullshit lol. It took me like two and a half hours |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.26.20 | Which chapter is dat? |
heyadam
03.26.20 | Where you’re heading to get the chalice and there’s a BILLION golems and that stupid three lever trap to deactivate. And then you beat it and it puts you instantly into a new battle lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.26.20 | Lol oh yeah that was fucking rough |
heyadam
03.26.20 | there was one part where like three thieves appeared in a bush and only Ashe and Lindhardt was over there and it took me a good forty-five mins to figure out how to get out of that without losing anyone lol |
heyadam
03.27.20 | @grey goddamn dude you weren’t kidding — chapter four is a biiiiitch |
Uzumaki
03.27.20 | It’s not bad when you realize *the golem is optional....* |
Uzumaki
03.27.20 | Just make for the doors. That’s all you have to do. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
03.27.20 | Ya I ran like a bitch |
Uzumaki
03.27.20 | Once I figured out the golem wasn’t actively chasing, I fucking booked it for the exit. |
heyadam
03.27.20 | Hahaha yea, just beat it — for some reason at one point I got confused and thought there was a teleportation circle bc a door was locked and so I split my party, but had to undo all of that when I realized Claude had a door key. I didn’t touch a golem that whole fight, positioning was just a lil bit tricky to not lose anyone |
heyadam
04.01.20 | Dimitri is actually unstoppable |
Uzumaki
04.01.20 | The AI start gangbanging him in the later levels, so build his stats good, especially with magic - if you’re not careful, magic’ll eat him alive. |
heyadam
04.02.20 | so like start bumping his res? cause ya dude rn he legit hasn’t been touched in like three maps despite being attacked |
heyadam
04.02.20 | the Yuri/dimitri combo is going to be bonkers |
Uzumaki
04.02.20 | Now that combo... was ducking dope, NGL. |
heyadam
04.02.20 | Dimitri gallops across the entire map, solos a dude and gallops back a bit, Yuri foul play’s and switches and then moved out of attack range. Lmao fuckin bonkers |
heyadam
05.29.20 | I didn’t realize how tanky Sylvain would be for me this playthrough. Dude just soaks up every attack on the map lol |
TheArtofTheGanja
05.29.20 | great game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Sylvain is the hero Ferdinand wishes he was |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | Started this game recently and picked Golden Deer
Claude is mad flirty with the protagonist, too bad he isn't a gay romance option |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Yeah that's a major point of contention within the fan community. Everyone wants to pork claude |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | Supposedly the only non old guy gay romance option is fucking Linhardt, the weird sleepy dude with the long hair
I guess I can get him to switch teams |
TheArtofTheGanja
05.29.20 | Yuri is best husbando, but you have to finish the Cindered Shadows DLC |
heyadam
05.29.20 | fuckin love Claude lol. And absolutely pots — sylvain is so much better than Ferdinand in every way |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | I like most of the Golden Deer so far, except maybe Marianne because she's like that weird stereotypical shy anime girl and it's annoying
I hope there's a path that makes her less like that
"Oh professor, don't put me in the battle, I won't be of much use!"
Shut up Marianne, you're like my only spellcaster right now |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Ugh marianne is such a wet blanket |
heyadam
05.29.20 | GD is who I went with at first too. The only person I’ve ever lost in this game in four playthroughs has been Ignatz lmao. Hard RIP to an artist with dreams |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | I'm still too early to have lost anyone, but honestly, if anything happens to Raphael I'll be mad
Dude is a champ ready to kick ass, like he could double shot people at level 1 |
heyadam
05.29.20 | yeah you protec raphey with everything you have. he’s a great tank and just a great dude |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Ignutz is suuuuch a bitch lmao |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | Quick opinions:
Claude - awesome, should be my love interest. Fucking Nintendo 10/10
Hilda - Super cool go-getter 8/10
Ignatz - weak as fuck, holy shit your arrow did 1 damage wtf 3/10
Leonie - wants to fuck my character's dad REALLY badly 5/10
Lorenz - super cool, pretty normal dude 8/10
Lysithea - super cool, maybe a bit boring 7/10
Marianne - annoying anime trope girl 1/10
Raphael - a fucking tank with a good attitude 10/10 |
heyadam
05.29.20 | I was flabbergasted that his attack literally did negative damage to the final boss — I was 100% forced to either restart a 2hr+ battle or sacrifice the nutz |
heyadam
05.29.20 | Claude, Hilda, Raph and Lysithea are the goats from GD for sure. I haven’t gone a single playthrough w/o Lysithea |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Hilda is a 15/10 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | If I was a weeb I would waifu her |
heyadam
05.29.20 | am weeb can confirm |
ArsMoriendi
05.29.20 | Not a weeb, but every time Claude flirts with my character I wish I was
"Claude, Hilda, Raph and Lysithea are the goats from GD for sure. I haven’t gone a single playthrough w/o Lysithea"
What about Lorenz? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Lorenz is hilarious |
Minushuman24
05.29.20 | How does this one compare to Awakening/Fates.
Awakening is like top ten games |
TheArtofTheGanja
05.29.20 | Similar in difficulty to Awakening, I like it better though the monastery shit can be tedious |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Monastery shit is fortunately easy to navigate. It's pretty voluntary how much time you actually invest in that. |
heyadam
05.29.20 | I love the monastery stuff and once you’re bored of it you can honestly optimize it to where you’re spending like five mins tops on it per game month |
TheArtofTheGanja
05.29.20 | yeah it's not a big deal or anything by any means |
Minushuman24
05.29.20 | Oh wtf this game is 3D, I am woefully uninformed about this game damn |
heyadam
05.29.20 | its v good. it’s my only fe entry and I hear it’s on the easier side, but it’s replayability is so high to me |
Uzumaki
05.29.20 | Yeah, as long as you’re not trying to recruit everyone the monastery portion isn’t bad. What I wish is that there was more opportunities for your protagonist to level up his ranks. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | i dunno levelling up ranks is pretty easy as long as you prioritize it. and its exceptionally easy in ng+ |
Uzumaki
05.29.20 | It’s easy only if you prioritize it for the protagonist, which then conflicts (for me) the desire to adequately level other characters up. In the monastery portion, you get 8 lessons per month, and trying to space that out between 3-4 attributes is ehhhh. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | but lessons isn't the only way to do that.. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | at the beginning when you dont have many actions its a bit of a juggle but once you have ample actions its not much of a problem. and like i said, for ng+ its a joke because you can buy all your ranks back to where they left off and just keep going right from the start |
heyadam
05.29.20 | every time dedue says “what do I do?” I legit say out loud “no, what should you *dedue*” |
heyadam
05.29.20 | did anybody do the paralouge with Yuri and Constance? This is some buuuuuullshit lol |
Uzumaki
05.29.20 | “ because you can buy all your ranks back to where they left off and just keep going right from the start.”
Legit I’m glad they put that in there otherwise replayability would’ve gone way down for me.
I gotta pick this game back up and finish it. 1 house/two paths left. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.29.20 | Yeah that's a big smart ng+ move |
heyadam
05.29.20 | best part of Ng+ for sure - not having to spend time on lysithea’s support every time
is clutch |
heyadam
05.30.20 | 1000% wifing up shamir on this route tho |
Uzumaki
05.30.20 | Shamir best archer. |
heyadam
05.30.20 | Easily! Honestly thought about S-ranking Rhea just to see the supports, but Shamir is bae rn |
Uzumaki
05.30.20 | Shamir really pulled her own when I used her in the BL route; between her and Ashe.... holy terrors.
Mercedes I kinda wished I leveled her archery better because she kinda plinked and plunked in the late game, but her healing abilities were/are second to none. |
ArsMoriendi
05.30.20 | Keep refreshing the game because I'm not letting anyone die this early
I swear it's my fault for doing classic hard mode, but the other modes seemed like they'd be bland
Dammit, it's sitll fun though figuring out how to make my team not die...for now
What's kinda annoying is that it makes me just lead with Byleth and Claude which causes them to get most of the level ups making the rest of my team even more fragile and godammit why is Ignatz so awful?
At least Marianne's ability to heal has made her grow on me |
heyadam
05.30.20 | definitely just make sure everyone is getting attacks in and do all the side missions - I just hit a difficult part in my current hard/classic playthrough and it was just because of where reinforcements ended up spawning lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.30.20 | Honestly didnt notice any major differences in archery skill between shamir and bern |
nol
05.30.20 | Wish I liked this game more. I appreciate all the expansion and depth they put in the game, it really is well written... but I’m a sucker for the balls to the wall pace of the OG fire emblem games, that take ~40 hours instead of ~120. |
nol
05.30.20 | I like how powerful everyone is and how many options there are for character growth... but to me there was something to the weaknesses certain classes had that made balancing out a team more strategic imo.
Feel like there are too many nuke options. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.30.20 | i think you could finish this in 40 hours easily, again the amount of time you sink into the monastery shit is entirely up to you, as is all time you spend on the support battles etc so i think the pace of the game is pretty malleable. i do somewhat miss the weapon triangle but i feel that classes/characters definitely have some pretty extremely exploitable weaknesses still. |
nol
05.31.20 | I’m happy so many people got into FE through this game tho. I hope they put the older and more obscure games on the switch so people can experience those too. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.31.20 | I want to play the gamecube one real bad |
Uzumaki
05.31.20 | Don’t know offhand if you can still buy some of the OG Gameboy/DS Fire Emblems via the WiiU’s Eshop, but I got 1-2 of those, and I really have to come back to Radiant Dawn one of these days. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.31.20 | Iirc it didnt have the ds ones or I would have gotten them but I think they had some gameboy/advance ones buy they were the ones I'd already played on an emulator |
heyadam
05.31.20 | I know this one is pretty different from the others, but since this was my first entry would would maybe be the best one available on DS to play next? I have trouble playing older games in a series if my entry was the newest and I liked it a lot |
Uzumaki
05.31.20 | If anything, try Awakening and see how you like that one. That’s the better acclaimed one, and difficulty-wise it’s right in the middle between Fates and the Shadow Dragon re-release for DS. |
nol
05.31.20 | Fates and shadow dragon were both very average games. Awakening’s your best bet.
@Pots: I’m playing thru the GameCube one rn actually, I’ve owned it since it’s release and never sold it even tho it’s worth hundreds. Worth it tho, because it’s easily my favorite game in the series. Possibly my favorite video game, period. It pretty much sets the standard of what I like and don’t like in other FE games. |
nol
05.31.20 | The GBA games are also on a pedestal of their own just for their glorious pixel art and animations, which can’t be captured in 3D.
Also, if you ever play Path of Radiance, you’ll realize Jeralt (3H) is a poor man’s Greil, and the Death Knight (also 3H) is a fuckin broke man’s Black Knight. |
Uzumaki
05.31.20 | Story-wise, Shadow Dragon was a bit linear, but difficulty-wise, it’s fairly difficult unless you’re methodical/careful. If you can’t find Shadow Dragon, give Shadows of Valentia a spin. Camera angle outside of battle is a little odd and takes a bit to get used to, but battles are fairly solid. |
heyadam
05.31.20 | Cool cool. I’ll try Awakening. I’m really looking forward to whatever they’re gonna cook up next — I feel like it’s gonna be so weird probably not having the student/teacher dynamic which I’m sure a lot of old fans will be happy about, but I love it. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.01.20 | the natural evolution at this point would be to eliminate the strategy battle element entirely and focus all their resources on the inappropriate student/professor dating simulator aspect |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.01.20 | im not sure how they could make it even edgier than being able to romance your inner loli-goddess but i'm sure they'll figure something out. maybe add some incest options! |
heyadam
06.01.20 | Lmao dude the sothis thing still trips me out — can’t even see how that develops |
Uzumaki
06.01.20 | Technically they have incest options in Fates and (correct me if I’m wrong) Thracia 776 or Geneology of the Holy War? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.17.20 | U playin isle of armour ? |
heyadam
06.17.20 | Ive been back on the Destiny 2 grind cause some of my friends got sucked back in lol. I’m going to pick it up this weekend tho! u? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.17.20 | yes hard lol |
heyadam
06.17.20 | How is it?! I mean I’m def gonna get it just cause it sounds fun. But it looked cool. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.17.20 | it's tight so far, there is enough to explore and catch that i haven't even started any of the story yet |
heyadam
06.17.20 | I need to jump back in — haven’t touched it since we last talked about it. Probs won’t even remember how tf to toss around ma balls |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | Hahahah same but it comes back pretty quick |
Uzumaki
06.18.20 | There’s new DLC? What’d I miss here? |
heyadam
06.18.20 | Yeah Isle of Armour came out today and then another one in like November |
heyadam
06.18.20 | oh but Uzumaki this is pokemon lmao |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | hit me up when you eventually get the inevitable need for trade again |
heyadam
06.18.20 | u fuckin know it. probs will pick it up tomorrow |
Uzumaki
06.18.20 | Ah; gotcha |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | Not gonna read this thread but PROTECT EDELGARD AT ALL COSTS |
heyadam
06.18.20 | hahaha, I really did like Edelgard. Claude is a main homie for SURE tho — doing my final playthrough rn with BL and Dimitri is aight. Stoked to see time skip story with him |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | They all have their respective strengths, and a big strength of the games overall plot is that there are multiple paths to the good ending |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | That said, Edelgard is the only true woman of the people and she is the only one who DESERVES to bring the people into the enlightened and prosperous age they deserve.
Totally let claude live. Wish there was an option to not kill Dimitri considering everything, but, in the end, that being taken away from Edelgard is true to the real world and makes her story richer |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | I definitely ship ed but I wouldn't exactly frame her as a hero. Her path is about as morally grey as it gets. |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | I think she is the only person who is undeniably a hero? |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | She destroys the chains of nobility that have plagued their society for centuries. I wish in her story you got to destroy the cultists that corrupt her in the other plots but otherwise I feel like Edelgard is by far the most righteous of all the protagonists |
heyadam
06.18.20 | Claude is hero-esque. I know a lot of his own thrust was his interest and ambition, but you could tell how much he genuinely cared about everyone. I think he’s probably the most level of the three and probably would have done the best for the land in general. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | It would be lit if you got to redeem some of her less sultry choices/actions by going after those who slither after destroying the church yeah. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | Agreed claude is probably the least shady |
hxciluvatarhxc
06.18.20 | Graham why did you delete on fb, as one of the only people understood yr shoot still wonder why you TORE US APART
|
PistolPete
06.18.20 | If they’re gonna continue with this “alternate story perspective” stuff and have the story split off I just hope they don’t make the Part 1 of the story so damn long next time. Here I think it made sense given you’re training students. But man Prologue + 12 chapters is mighty long especially when you have to do it at least three times over. |
heyadam
06.18.20 | I get that — I kinda like it tho lol. And as it’s been said in the thread, you really can just steamroll through the monastery parts. My current playthrough is probs gonna be my longest one even though it’s my third one. Literally doing eeeeeeverything |
heyadam
06.18.20 | Ingrid is by far my worst unit this time around |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | @john honestly I deleted fb cuz my feed was almost entirely political stuff and I was getting depressed watching videos of cops abuse people and shit like that every day and felt getting rid of social media in general would probably be a mostly positive thing |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.18.20 | Unless you mean why did I delete you off facebook prior to that, I dont remember if I did or not but at one point I just had too many sput users on fb and couldnt remember who a lot of them were and it was kind of annoying so I got rid of most of them save a couple people I talked to like every day |
heyadam
06.19.20 | um no one told me mf ABRA was in this expansion |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.19.20 | U know ur boy abra floating about |
nol
06.20.20 | Lots of the essential missing mons from gen 1 are back. Scyther!
I still miss my salamance. Next expansion has a dragon dungeon tho so I’m holding out hope. |
heyadam
06.25.20 | lmao I love how even in the BL playthrough, dimitri’s character 180 is so abrupt and hilarious. |
nol
06.26.20 | The whole time skip thing is such a jarring transition for every character, it seems. I guess it emulates what Byleth is going thru, waking up in the middle of a war they know little about, after having slept 5 years, which they don’t even realize they just did. Definitely a confusing turn of events for Byleth. But still. |
heyadam
06.26.20 | I think Dimitri’s story is by far the most jarring personal transition, even though you knew there had to be more to him. Ed and Claude seemed to both keep their trajectories the same |
heyadam
06.26.20 | anybody play the f2p FE mobile game? it’s actually not bad. |
Uzumaki
06.26.20 | FE Heroes? Used to, but not anymore. Got tired of getting party wipes even though my party was all 5 Star gold ranks, or whatever the highest ranks a character could get. |
heyadam
06.26.20 | ya. I’m sure I’ll get annoyed with it eventually, but I’m having fun rn haha. And I’m pretty good now about only engaging with f2p elements and at MOST spending like $20 total over the my playing lifespan. Was p deep in the naruto one before. These games kinda get old after you’re done collecting everything you want |
heyadam
06.26.20 | pulled Hubert yesterday and was hype, gonna gun for Petra bc she’s my queeeeen |
heyadam
06.29.20 | worst unit in each playthrough:
GD - Ignutz
BE - Caspar (think I just mishandled him)
BL - Ingrid |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | agreed that ignutz sucks. havent recruited ingrid. would agree that you may have mishandled Caspar as was a beast for me. |
nol
06.29.20 | My Caspar is gutter trash, but I wanted him to be the Raven/Ogma mercenary prototype, so I tried to train him using a sword. Did not work.
Ingrid doesn’t have great stats, but being my only flyer in BE (I recruited her) she was really helpful |
heyadam
06.29.20 | to be fair, I love Raphael and so I recruited him and probably gave him more time than Caspar.
I can NOT get Ingrid to work no matter how hard I try - she’s just been booty since day one. Bumped up Lysithea and Annette’s range, and recruited Shamir along with Ashe to make up for lack of mobility that the flier gives. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | "My Caspar is gutter trash, but I wanted him to be the Raven/Ogma mercenary prototype, so I tried to train him using a sword. Did not work."
he needs to be a brawler/grappler/war master! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | i think some characters can also only really be optimized if you have them from the start or if you divert all your attention to them and really focus on training when you first get them. for instance Lysithea has been complete ass for me on both of my runs and i know she is supposed to be one of the top tier magic users. |
heyadam
06.29.20 | Yuri is seriously a god in my playthrough lol. That fool move before and after combat across entire maps it feels like. Felix grew on me, and his avoid is insane - not Petra level, but close |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | Felix is great yeah. my first playthrough i would often just send Felix and Petra off on their own together and they'd just slaughter the entire fucking map. petra with killing edge or whatever that high crit sword was and felix with levin there was literally nothing that could stop them lol. |
heyadam
06.29.20 | Petra with killing edge is so unfair lmao. I remember it being weird if she didn’t crit. Also any of you ever get a skill to S+? I think Lysithea’s reason is gonna get there for me, and that just seems so extra lol |
heyadam
06.29.20 | did u ever make Felix into a mortal savant, pots? |
nol
06.29.20 | Felix puts in work for me and I got him right before the timeskip. I had him kill his father 😎 |
heyadam
06.29.20 | Hahaha I think I did that in my first playthrough too. I kinda ignored Felix after I recruited him bc I got Petra and she was god tier, but I like him a lot as a unit now |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | "did u ever make Felix into a mortal savant, pots?"
sure did
and yeah pretty sure i had some s+ ranks |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.29.20 | anna actually makes a good assassin too and gets lots of crits. no one beats petra but that trio of anna petra and felix is crazy. |
heyadam
06.29.20 | I recruited Anna bc I thought there would be supports, but I didn’t put aaaaaany time in to her this time around so she’s a useless unit. I think I waited too long to train Felix in reason, but I might still be able to make him a mortal savant for the last few maps |
ArsMoriendi
07.17.20 | Can Leonie stop trying to fuck my character's dad, thanks |
heyadam
07.17.20 | she will never stop. never ever never |
nol
07.19.20 | Hoping for some kind of remake soon... either Roy’s game or Genealogy of the Holy War would be v nice |
heyadam
07.19.20 | I want a remastered fe entry on the switch so bad tbh. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.19.20 | New paper mario is actually p great |
Slex
07.19.20 | Absolutely hate the new Paper Mario so far :/ From Odyssey onwards a good majority of 1st Party Nintendo games seem to be designed for infants, I don't need Olivia to spend 7 minutes explaining in detail the same thing I just did 4 times after her first 6 explanations |
Colton
07.19.20 | Odyssey was great though. Sure there were a lot of moons that were way too easy, but the way you could move in that game made interacting with the levels really fun. And BOTW is a masterpiece obviosly. |
Colton
07.19.20 | Wait Pots you play Paper Mario lmao that's actually hilarious to me |
heyadam
07.19.20 | fell into playing a gacha game against my better judgement so I’m a bit behind on new games lol |
nol
07.19.20 | I’m playing The original Paper Mario rn. Pretty fun. Just found out Intelligent Systems (fire emblem Dev) also makes the Paper Mario games the other day, and now I’m hearing similarities between the Paper Mario and Path of Radiance soundtracks and menu selection sounds |
heyadam
07.19.20 | had no idea IS worked on Paper Mario lmao. that’s hilarious for some reason |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.19.20 | Odyssey was fucking amazing, easily the best since 64
New paper mario definitely holds your hand for the first lil bit but these games literally are made for children |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.19.20 | I cant imagine being an adult playing Nintendo games about princesses and toad stools and feeling slighted by the fact that they weren't made to pander to my grown ass lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.19.20 | "Get your titties out peach!" |
nol
07.19.20 | Especially not a game that’s entire aesthetic is Arts and Crafts. |
heyadam
07.20.20 | fuck u toad’s been thru too much shit to be condescended on like that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Lmao yeah
Speaking of which that newest arts and crafts yoshi game was not so good on the other hand. |
nol
07.20.20 | Thousand Year Door and SPM were a bit more “mature” especially in the story telling, but it’s not surprising Nintendo wanted to nix that. Still a little sad ig |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | I think I only ever played the game cube one and remember not really getting it at the time but dont remember enough to compare. the writing in the new one is silly but pretty funny and the areas are really fun to explore |
Slex
07.20.20 | Lmao I mean, I get what yr saying but I've been playing Nintendo games all of my life and there's absolutely a rut going on rn with the likes of Yoshi, Luigi and Mario where the games are way too simplistic
Odyssey was honestly just terrible. Some admittedly fantastic post-game content but the main campaign was so boring and uninspired besides the hat which was honestly a gimmick that wore off fast |
nol
07.20.20 | Saw my brother playing the new one. Looks pretty and fun, but the characters feel very generic, which was a problem with the last two entries as well. And I hear that’s mainly because Nintendo is hella strict with second party Mario games. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Nah literally all the mario and luigi games I can think of the last couple gen have been great and in line with what they've always been doin. Last yoshi was bad yes but wooly world was good. Ur just getting bitter and old my dude |
Slex
07.20.20 | So wait Paper Mario isn't first party? Weird
Yr probably right tho potsy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | The mario rabbids game was fucking stupid tho |
Uzumaki
07.20.20 | I would love to see another fe entry on the switch. |
heyadam
07.20.20 | I actually recruited Luigi in my final three houses run but his insistence on not wearing pants showcasing his massive pee pee was a real distraction for the other students on the battlefield |
Uzumaki
07.20.20 | Showing off his dragon, eh? |
heyadam
07.20.20 | rivaled sylvain’s dragon for sure - luigi’s B and A supports with byleth was almost tragic tho right? that inferiority complex hit hard |
Colton
07.20.20 | Pots being a fan of Nintendo games is actually kinda a shocker for me. I like it though
And how is it that all of us have switches but we haven't played Smash yet? smh you guys are ducking my Bowser hard |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Remember when snoxall (gallantin) tried to say mario rabbids was better than three houses |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | "Pots being a fan of Nintendo games is actually kinda a shocker for me. I like it though"
My age group grew up with the n64 being a defining part of our childhood so most of us are |
heyadam
07.20.20 | I suck at smash so bad lol |
heyadam
07.20.20 | bro he did not like this game lmao |
nol
07.20.20 | My banjo will rip your bowser a new one. I bet you do that cheap side B off the cliff move when you are a stock ahead, dontcha 👀 |
nol
07.20.20 | “My age group grew up with the n64 being a defining part of our childhood so most of us are“
Same except GameCube. Earliest memories are of 64 and watching my bros play smash 64 tho, so I look back at that console fondly too. |
Colton
07.20.20 | No Noler, I mostly just spam up b out of shield. But it’s on now. Tmo? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | ah yes the gamecube, that one singular time nintendo made a decent controller |
heyadam
07.20.20 | I had an N64 and a Dreamcast but tbh I played my Dreamcast so much more lol. Just could not stop doing absolutely nothing in Shenmue |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Anyone ever play soul blazer or illusion of gaia? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Played those on that snes classic thing a few years ago for the first time and theyve got to be two of the best snes games I've ever played |
Colton
07.20.20 | Nah Pots the switch pro controller is honestly the best controller I’ve ever used. And play me and Noler in Smash |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Yeah switch pro controller is good but obvs I meant their main controller legacy |
Slex
07.20.20 | I will considerably embarrass any takers in Smash
I suck at the other games but got obsessively good at Ultimate |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | i'm gdlk in smash @slex ur free as shit |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | also potsy is basically right about everything on nintendo rn so glad i don't have to reiterate |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | @coleT and noler, i'll free both of y'all up too ~ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | I'm ok at smash I can beat almost all of my irl friends consistently but im sure anyone who plays online frequently would destroy me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | I also rarely play |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | I never thought I'd say this as smash has been my fav fighting game since the very first entry when I was just a wee lad and ultimate is the best one since melee but I think the novelty is finally wearing off me. I get bored quickly and also I can't focus as well on what's going on as I could when i was younger, it hurts my eyes |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I can understand any and all issues most ppl have smash. It's the only fighting game that speaks to me, unfortunately.
Also, I've started playing 3 houses again, just doing things really slowly rn. I still haven't started my Madness file yet... still grinding to get there. |
ArsMoriendi
07.20.20 | YESSS I got Lindhart to join the Golden Deer
Finally
Also
*SPOILER*
damn Edlegard is like Mao or someshit
*SPOILER* |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | she's kinda fashy yea
she has a point, all things considered. but her methods are well... |
heyadam
07.20.20 | time skip Dimitri is so hot topic it hurts |
ArsMoriendi
07.20.20 | If I recruit Black Eagle Members (so far I have Dorthea and Lindhart) do they stay in my party or do they join Edlegard eventually? : (I'm on the Golden Deer path) |
heyadam
07.20.20 | they’ll stay with you for sure |
heyadam
07.20.20 | ugh, in all 3 1/2 of my playthroughs I couldn’t imagine not having Lysithea. She is without a doubt the best unit in the game |
Slex
07.20.20 | This is probs my pick for best Switch game tbh |
heyadam
07.20.20 | same, between this and botw (even tho it was technically a wiiU game) for different reasons. |
ArsMoriendi
07.20.20 | Lysithea is super strong, but I feel like she also gets one shot a lot, like a glass cannon |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Lysithea is so fuckin broken, it's like cheating. I have the Thyrsus on her, which gives magic +2 range, and on as a Dark Flier, and she just kills people from 5 spaces away, and then runs away for free. It's not okay! |
Slex
07.20.20 | Yeah BOTW is easily the best but I consider it a WiiU game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | "she's kinda fashy yea
she has a point, all things considered. but her methods are well."
Lol Hanson was in here stanning her and saying she was the only truly morally good leader and I didnt know how to say this without breaking his heart |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I do love her, as a unit and as a character. But like c'mon, I really can't argue with anyone that has serious problems with her lol. Easily the most morally outrageous character in the game, but that's the point of her character. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Smae |
heyadam
07.20.20 | @ars if you build her like cyg to a degree she legit won’t be touched, although I never made her a dark flier. She‘s never been one shot for me forreals, absolutely god tier lol
but ya ed can be lowkey psycho but that’s what the church and the fuckin word vomit “those who slither in the dark” are for — you def get why she’s so adamant.
*SPOILERS*
Honestly the child experiment stuff was bonkers |
nol
07.20.20 | I want to get good at some other fighting game, but smash is the only one I'm remotely good at. Wish Marvel V Capcom 2 was on switch, that would be a great fit. |
Colton
07.20.20 | Noler, Cygnatti and Slex, arena tonight? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Yeah I fucking suck at most other fighting games too. Any game like street fighter or mortal combat where the attacks are all insane series of button and directional inputs that vary from character to character can foad |
Colton
07.20.20 | Fair enough Pots at least you’re self aware, a lot of people only play Smash offline with friends and think they’re godlike cause they don’t realize how insane some people are online |
Slex
07.20.20 | I'm all in for Smash tonite yeah |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I'm down, lemme know a time frame |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | how is min min btw? i watched the reveal thing and she seemed a bit underwhelming |
Slex
07.20.20 | I actually haven't played any of the DLC characters besides Pirahna Plant, need to change that lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | damn. i actually kind of like pirahna plant, his move set it novel. Joker and Hero are both awesome, Terry and Byleth are ok. Don't care much for Banjo |
Colton
07.20.20 | Plant is pretty decent now that they buffed him. Joker is cool and really good. Hero is good but horrible for competitive play. Terry and Byleth are ok, I agree. Banjo can be cool, or completely degenerate depending on how you play him
And Nolan said he’s down around 5 EST Cyg and Slex |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Min min is kinda good, very polarizing matchups kinda like Simon |
Colton
07.20.20 | I saw a pro player call her top tier so who knows |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | just watched the new direct mini and wow what a garbage fire |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | ESAM is legit the only person that thinks Min Min is really good. Most ppl think she's mid tier like most dlc. |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | ill prob be down around 5:15ish EST |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | from what i've seen she just looks kind of stiff and clunky |
Colton
07.20.20 | She is but her range is ridiculous, she has good normals like up smash, and her grab is kinda nutty |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | on an aside is it just me or is inciniroar just the fucking worst |
Colton
07.20.20 | Incineroar is pretty bad yeah, bottom 10 character |
Colton
07.20.20 | worst characters in the game are probably Ganon, Little Mac and Jigglypuff |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | i actually love ganon, don't mind little mac (middling for me) and know first hand that people that know how to use jigglypuff real good will fuck your day up so cant hate on her either lol |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | incineroar got some beefy buffs so he's prob not bottom 10 anymore? jiggs may be like bottom 5 but she can fuck anyone over if you don't know how to handle her. same goes with little mac and even ganon.
game is, in general, relatively well balanced. |
Colton
07.20.20 | I'm mostly talking about in competitive top level play (cause I'm a Smash nerd and I watch tourneys and shit). Ganon destroys low-mid level players, as can Little Mac, but most pros agree they're bottom tier and most would say Ganon is the worst character in the game |
Colton
07.20.20 | Who do you guys play? Please don't say Samus or Ness |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | adult link and cloud are my two favs prob |
Colton
07.20.20 | Somewhat respectable picks |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I play most of characters in the game. Trust me y'all, I'm gdlk lmao. Not as good as one other smasher was in his peak tho, probably. But up there. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | a lot of my favourites have been nerfed. zelda and diddy kong were favourites in brawl but neither are as good any more
for ultimate i also enjoy sheik, zero suit, robin, inkling, and simon/richter |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Zelda's actually pretty good in this game, she's just different (aka more degenerate). Diddy feels underwhelming, but he's still pretty good. He can never be outright bad when Banana exists. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | both diddy and zelda are possibly better than they were in U granted but still nowhere near how OP they were in brawl
bananas for diddy are nerfed hard and side b bomb for zelda nerfed hard
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | watch next dlc character be some ninjala shit smdh |
Colton
07.20.20 | Join the arena Cyg, show us your godliness |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Where's the arena id and pw? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | let me know who gets rekt and who does the rekt'ing |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Bro where's the room |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | all that flexing got him shook cyg |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | "Join the room, dude."
Doesn't post it anywhere ~
Makin money moves out here. |
Colton
07.20.20 | Room is 76JY0 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | good luck ladies |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Already in a room with someone good, Ya snooze ya lose fellas. |
Colton
07.20.20 | Sounds like you’re duckin to me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | damn i don't even know who the coward is anymore |
heyadam
07.20.20 | listen I’m gonna need u guys to take this conversation over to r/sputsmash |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Maybe you shoulda posted the code earlier man |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Damn this beef can only be squashed by a 1 v 1 smashoff |
Colton
07.20.20 | It’s all good Noler and I got plenty of games in |
nol
07.20.20 | Cole T just beat my ass. Had a couple where I was sorta close but nope, 0 wins.
Now I need to see where I stand against cyg and slex lol, see if some honor can be recovered |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I'll join the room in a bit, im playing an irl rival of mine lol |
nol
07.20.20 | Also let it be known that Cole’s switch name is “Up B God” |
Colton
07.20.20 | Well I mean, I am pretty good with Bowser’s up b, which requires an immense amount of skill and technique to pull off
But nah it’s just a joke to troll my coworkers who always bitched about me using up b too much lol |
nol
07.20.20 | I’d guess your bowser is in elite smash? I’ve been wavering on the cusp of ES for so long, but I’ve still never achieved it ): right around 6.5 million |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Cole, did break the room? If so, I can make one |
nol
07.20.20 | Yeah I ended the room |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | 6mk5r | 55
Someone come get bodied. |
Colton
07.20.20 | Yeah he is Noler, not super deep into it though |
Colton
07.20.20 | And Cyg I gotta do something rn but I can in like 20-30 mins |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Smdh |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Ugh fine |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Cyg gonna b like "shit sorry gotta walk my dog" in 20-30 mins |
nol
07.20.20 | here |
Colton
07.20.20 | Joining now |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Pog |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Not the only up B god itt |
nol
07.20.20 | cygnatti’s out here ruining lives |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Hahahaha love it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | I'm really enjoying the penis desert area of new paper Mario rn |
nol
07.20.20 | Ope gotta bounce, but lemme get my ass whooped by that bayo again sometime |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Ggs dude |
Colton
07.20.20 | Meant to say well played not congrats lol |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | I'll do a few more |
Colton
07.20.20 | Alright ggs man. You’re pretty good. How long you been playing? |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Started to get really laggy there unfortunately. Ggs, Cole. |
Colton
07.20.20 | Yeah sorry about that my internet does that sometimes |
Cygnatti
07.20.20 | Technically I've been playing since I was a kid, but only did competitively since like 2015.
Since I couldn't 3 stock either of you really, this leads me to believe that y'all are both pretty good. |
Slex
07.20.20 | Sorry buds, won't be available till like 10 eat or anytime tomorrow before 6pm est |
Colton
07.20.20 | Haha don’t sell me too short, some of those were close. Almost won that one game but I up b’d instead of side b’ing
But yeah in general you’re way better than me. I’ve only been playing a year and a half though so I have a lot to learn. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | Were u even already done been born yet when the first one came out |
Colton
07.20.20 | Yes but barely
Also did you have a stroke typing that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.20.20 | You already done had herses boi |
Slex
07.21.20 | Okay so when is round 2 then |
Cygnatti
07.21.20 | Whenever is cool with me. Some of our games were very close! But still.
I actually grinded with Zenyou a bit and took some games from him and beat Gen (palu main) in a friendlies set a few weeks back as well. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | Nice I beat my girlfriend lots |
Cygnatti
07.21.20 | Pots, does your girl play kirby per chance? |
Colton
07.21.20 | I’m down whenever Slex. And all girls play Kirby |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | no she exclusively plays zero suit samus cuz she's an acro instructor and says that zero suit has great form |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | im 95% sure she has never once even tried any other character lmao |
Colton
07.21.20 | Does she know there’s a character that’s literally a fitness trainer? |
Slex
07.21.20 | Lmao
Cole shoot me yr friend code |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | yes she does, acro =/= yoga poses and hoola hooping |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | wii trainer is her closest thing to a rival if anything, she hates that bitch |
Colton
07.21.20 | I hate that bitch too
And Slex it’s 7706-3059-1797 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | Same what a bitch |
Cygnatti
07.21.20 | "no she exclusively plays zero suit samus cuz she's an acro instructor and says that zero suit has great form"
this is awesome lmao. love zss, she's just a little unwieldy for me. she moves too fast! lmao |
nol
07.21.20 | You’re amazing at smash for sure, but I hate fighting Bayonetta so much lol. Those air combos are brutal.
I almost had you with the plant! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.21.20 | So who lost the most hardest today |
Cygnatti
07.21.20 | It was pretty even between the two. I got 25 wins in a row tho ;]
Next time they should play vs each other too tho, instead of just me. |
Colton
07.21.20 | Noler and I played before we played you Cyg |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | when's the next time y'all are free to play? |
Colton
07.23.20 | I'm down tomorrow. I wanna see if my Falcon gets bodied slightly less than my Bowser |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | lindy, i'm free mostly all day since school is over. just lmk |
Slex
07.23.20 | I'm free up til 6pm est |
Colton
07.23.20 | Alright sounds good Cyg. And yeah join us Slex. Prepare to get wrecked by Cyg though he's pretty nasty |
nol
07.23.20 | Oh I’m down again, I wanna see how I do against slex haha |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.23.20 | Prediction: Slex gets the most murdered |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.23.20 | Cyg was my top choice for unstoppable god-force and slex is my top choice for having too much of an actual life to be as good as he thinks he is |
Slex
07.23.20 | Lmao we shall see |
Colton
07.23.20 | Cyg is an unstoppable god-force |
Colton
07.23.20 | And Slex I have to push it back to 5:30 if that’s cool, my bad |
Slex
07.23.20 | No problem but I gotta leave at 6 unfortunately |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | i can make a room soon |
Colton
07.23.20 | Ye make one now Cyg |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | Room: F2C72 | 55
FC : 6184-4179-5510 |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | y'all play sooooo fuckin online it's unreal lmao |
Colton
07.23.20 | Wifi is all I know. Also what a tragic end to that game |
Slex
07.23.20 | Jfc Marth lol |
Colton
07.23.20 | This man really broke my shield twice |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | i just hope y'all don't up B this much offline |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | stop spamming up B from shield and it won't happen lmao |
Colton
07.23.20 | Finally got one :) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.23.20 | slex how you fairin |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | I counted 26 (onstage) up B's in that one game. Which tbh, is lower than I expected. |
Colton
07.23.20 | I’ll step it up Cyg. And Pots we just played, he had a slight lead on me and then I SD’d |
Colton
07.23.20 | Cyg you mind if I run it back with Slex before he has to go? |
Slex
07.23.20 | Cyg slaughtered me lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.23.20 | what does that even mean (sd'd) |
ArsMoriendi
07.23.20 | Damn this lake monster mission is absolute bullshit
|
Colton
07.23.20 | I fucked up and killed myself off the stage |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.23.20 | tragic |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | you're both playing well, but Slex needs to up his anti-edge guard game |
Slex
07.23.20 | Gotta go after one more of whoever wins this |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | that was a very unfortunate game |
Colton
07.23.20 | It was beautiful wym |
nol
07.23.20 | oh no I thought you guys said tommorow fuck. |
Colton
07.23.20 | Im gonna go restart the router |
Colton
07.23.20 | Reach the arena Noler |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | ill do like 2 more |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | alright ggs bro |
Colton
07.23.20 | Ggs man |
Colton
07.23.20 | Idk why I took a couple games off your Marth but can’t touch your Ganon, so I’ve decided to go back to believing Ganon is high tier like I did when the game came out |
Cygnatti
07.23.20 | because marth requires delicate spacing and timing, and the lag made that difficult to impossible. |
Colton
07.23.20 | Lag sucks |
nol
07.24.20 | Question: If you had the opportunity to choose a character for Fighters Pass 2, who would you pick?
I’d choose Phoenix Wright. Wario will be tried in a court of law for his crimes against humanity. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | i would be pretty butthurt if phoenix wright was one of the dlc characters tbh but ive never played the game.
if i could only choose one? let me think for a min |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | honestly zero would be way up there actually |
Colton
07.24.20 | bad time to advocate Zero being involved in Smash...
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | why |
Colton
07.24.20 | Zero was the best player in the world at Smash 4 and probably the most popular person in all of Smash until a few weeks ago when he basically got Jesse Lacey'd |
nol
07.24.20 | Lmao. Fuck ZeRo (the person). Who is Zero (the character)? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | what does that have to do with Zero from Megaman |
nol
07.24.20 | Jokes
I hadn’t played PW until about 6 months ago. Now it’s a favorite game of mine. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | i dont like this jokes |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | put ameratsu in the game and give her a twilight princess wolf skin/shadow version |
Colton
07.24.20 | and Noler I'd like to see Kratos added. That would be pretty sick |
nol
07.24.20 | Amaterasu would be dope as hell. Game needs more quadrupeds. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | id feel kind of indifferent about kratos but he'd probably be good. i dunno i do at the end of the day prefer the characters to be first or second party or at least be like loosely affiliated with nintendo in some capacity. there are certain aesthetics that just feel out of place in the game and i feel like kratos would be one of them, as is solid snake, who also happens to be one of the worst characters in the entire franchise imo |
Colton
07.24.20 | Snake is pretty cancerous yeah. Probably better than Samus though. Fuckin hate Samus |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | that being said if the next character is fucking olivia from paper mario origami king i will flip a fucking table |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | "Probably better than Samus though. Fuckin hate Samus"
nooooo wayyyyyyyyy. i don't feel strongly about samus either way but id play her over snake any day |
Colton
07.24.20 | That would suck but I'll take Olivia over another weeb character from Fire Emblem or a weeb character from that teenage girl dating simulator |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | "teenage girl dating simulator"
???
"another weeb character from Fire Emblem"
olivia is so lame i would actually take a 47th fire emblem sword fighter over her |
Colton
07.24.20 | Persona
|
Colton
07.24.20 | and yeah it'll probably be a new Pokemon and then a bunch of third party characters |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | i have no problem with new pokemon to play as i just have a problem with the fact that they pick shit like fucking inciniroar or just make them suck |
nol
07.24.20 | I'm betting we won't see another FE character until another FE game comes out.
I am also tired of the weeb characters. |
nol
07.24.20 | I hated incineroar in everything until I played him in smash. one of the most fun pokemon characters tbh. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Damn hes probably in my bottom 5 |
nol
07.24.20 | the way he taunts after he attacks is hilarious, especially with Ultimate's dumb "No Taunting" rule online. |
Colton
07.24.20 | Who do you play anyways Pots |
Colton
07.24.20 | Wait nvm you already told me. You and Slex both play Cloud. I used to play him |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | im probably a bit better with link than cloud but yeah i spend most of my time with those two |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | i sure wish ridley and dark samus were good instead of a piece of shit worse charizard clone and samus clone respectively |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | nintendo being nintendo begrudgingly finally adds ridley and is like "fine you can have him but we are gonna make him shit" |
Colton
07.24.20 | Yeah Ridley is pretty shit but Nintendo rarely buffs heavies cause then they become too strong against more casual players. He's also probably the best heavy besides Bowser |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Hes like my absolute least favourite heavy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | It used to be king dededede but they fixed him and now hes aight |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Question for you nerds btw
Ganondorf has this one move that I can only ever do by accident
It's like a follow up charge move where he raises his leg up completely vertically and charges it and then basically just swings his heel down and smashes it into the ground and fucks your entire family tree up
What the fuck is the actual input for that |
nol
07.24.20 | up tilt. tilt the joy-stick up but not enough to jump and press A. Or you can turn stick jump off, which is what I do. If you do that you can just hold up and press A |
Colton
07.24.20 | Oh lord. You don't even know what tilt attacks are
Cyg would do horrible things to you |
Colton
07.24.20 | Noler you don't play with tilt stick on? That way you can just use the right stick to do tilts. It's way easier |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | I know what tilts are u snarky fuck I just lack finesse |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Ima try turning stick jump off thnx |
nol
07.24.20 | That's what I should do but I avoid the C-Stick for some reason. When I was a kid my brothers said using that was cheating, and idk its rooted in my soul now.
I'm also pretty consistent with the regular tilt controls |
Colton
07.24.20 | lol I genuinely wasn't trying to be snarky. But yeah it's up tilt. You can change the controls so you just flick the right stick up to do an up tilt, instead of using the right stick for smash attacks |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | I'm terrible with tilt controls so this is all great fucking news |
Colton
07.24.20 | As a side note you majorly embody Dedede main energy. I think Dedede is your spirit character |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Lmao fuck that |
Cygnatti
07.24.20 | there's no way Pots has d3 energy, wtf lmao. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Smdhdhdhdh |
nol
07.24.20 | more like wario |
Cygnatti
07.24.20 | i'm thinkin' mewtwo or maybe even metaknight |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Smmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhh Noler I seen a pick of u if anyone here is wario its u let's be real |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | I could fucks with mewtwo or meta but I see myself more of a sexy smash bae character like zero suit samus or female corrin with pink hair |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | On an aside does anyone actually enjoy spirit board or |
Slex
07.24.20 | Nah Spirit Board sucked imo |
Cygnatti
07.24.20 | i liked it but it was too gimmicky and tiresome. |
ArsMoriendi
07.24.20 | I just murdered Ashe and I don't like it :/ wish I had recruited him instead |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | It's such a chore for me and barely seems worthwhile in any capacity. Classic mode is kinda meh in this one too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.24.20 | Is crysis a good game? |
nol
07.24.20 | I enjoy doing a few spirit battles here and there to shake things up, but World of Light was pretty disappointing. |
nol
07.24.20 | I’d maybe use wario if he was based off wario land and not wario ware. The bike, the waft, and his standard outfit make me cringe |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | Killing Ferdinand wasn't nearly as devistating as killing Ashe |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | After over a year and multiple playthroughs I still don’t fully know how to feel about this entry. It does so much right, but so much wrong at the same time. Definitely better than fates/awakening but not really the best in the series either. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | Bruh Ferdinand is my boy |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | Ferdie is a top tier character especially if you recruit him to another house |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | Agreed |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | Lol wait I was confusing him with sylvain |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | "We killed Ferdie, professor, he used to be our friend, do you remember those days?"
Fuck you Dorthea, don't make me feel bad about killing Ferninand. I'm gonna have to kill every Black Eagle member except for you and Lindhart.
Oh god, that means I'm gonna have to kill Bernadetta eventually oh my god why didn't I just recruit everyone |
Colton
07.25.20 | Ars you play Smash? |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | Sylvain insta recruits to your house if you pick female Byleth and that is fucking hilarious. |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | I do
I like Ice Climbers a lot, though i'm not particularly good |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | "Sylvain insta recruits to your house if you pick female Byleth and that is fucking hilarious."
im always female byleth so he's a staple for me and thats why he's mah boi lol |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | He’s got nuts bases when you recruit him and a good lance rank so it makes it kinda easy to turn him into the broken wyvern classes |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | yep |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | The gaming kinda becomes a joke when you get warp + stride + dancer + a good flying unit except on maddening but maddening is straight up not fun so... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | personally a big fan of rolling through genghis kahn style and just casually absolutely fucking obliterating everything in my path so getting to that point was satisfying |
Joeman82
07.25.20 | I mean my favorite game in the series is thracia which gives you absolutely broken tools at your disposal to manipulate so I get that. |
Cygnatti
07.25.20 | Think I'm going to go female Byleth for my madness run since I'm always magically oriented anyways.
Btw, Valkyrie class (mounted Mage unit) being gender locked is retarded I hate it. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | i like being hot bitches (including yuri) so i aint even shook |
Cygnatti
07.25.20 | It's not just that, it's that I want more male mages, Byleth or not! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | Male mages? *scoff* |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | I have Lorenz as a dark knight (which is pretty much horseman + mage + lance) if that counts |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | Also Dimitri's motivations make 0 sense
Why is he trying to attack us? He literally has the same goal: to defeat Edlegard and restore peace |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | I went out of my way on that Blood Eagle Lion battle thing to kill all of Edlegard's troops first to see if it'd make Dimitri back off and realize we're on his side, but no luck
Blue Lions is officially the worst house because they make no sense. Claude in the dialogue was even confused to why Dimitri was against him |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.20 | Dimitri is also confused about that |
heyadam
07.25.20 | he’s so edgy it hurts lol. and yeah, I love how Claude was basically like “wtf why aren’t we teaming up?” |
Cygnatti
07.25.20 | Dmitiri is in a position where he can't trust anyone or anything really, so he doesn't trust you either, even if you have the "same goal(s)".
On that chapter, both houses are against you for some reason, and I never could understand why. |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | Well I only attacked Dimitri and left the other Blue Lions alone and it let me win, so I call that a victory
I think if I do a 2nd playthrough, I'll pick Black Eagles because if I'm gonna battle the Golden Deer, it should at least make sense... |
Cygnatti
07.25.20 | I did black eagles first, and I'm almost certain they do fight you as well. |
ArsMoriendi
07.25.20 | Wait Dimitri just died off screen, and I had to learn it through some dialogue with Hilda? Wtf This game's writing worked up to this point, but seriously, do they not know what to do with the Blue Lions at all? |
heyadam
07.25.20 | I loooove the scene at the beginning of the time gap where dimitri is just hiding in the shadows of the monastery and byleth walks up and he’s like “U A FUCKIN COP?” |
Cygnatti
07.25.20 | They have some really really questionable writing choices, I was baffled at several points during my black eagles run. |
Joeman82
07.26.20 | I went GD route first because I said when the images for the students were leaked I was going anywhere Raphael went. I knew I picked the wrong route when I got to the battle of “eagle and lion”.
Worst writing choice is how they explain the timeskip and all the kids somehow don’t resent Byleth in the slightest for leaving them for 5 years and the excuse of “I fell down a hole” doesn’t rub anyone the wrong way. |
Joeman82
07.26.20 | BL doesn’t make a lot of sense cuz it was supposed to be a hidden route. Most of the BL cast doesn’t even have a reason to stay with Edelgard besides fear lol. |
Gyromania
07.26.20 | boredom: the game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.26.20 | @joe ?? U mean BE? |
Colton
07.26.20 | Gyro if you don’t main Rob in Smash i’m disappointed |
heyadam
07.26.20 | BE was originally gonna be the only route before it was a three houses deal |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.26.20 | That's weird considering it kind of ended up on the back burner and production on it ended up being rushed resulting in the shortest route |
Cygnatti
07.26.20 | "That's weird considering it kind of ended up on the back burner and production on it ended up being rushed resulting in the shortest route" [2]
Basically, the characters in this game are pretty cool and more interesting than in the last few games but writing is still similarly shaky. I do like a lot of the lore that they hint and allude to tho. |
Cygnatti
07.26.20 | also, im gonna make an arena sometime between 9 and 10pm EST with a friend or two, if any of y'all wanna join, i'll post the room id here. @cole, noler, etc. |
Colton
07.26.20 | I moved my switch downstairs and it’s closer to the router now and it seems to have fixed the lag so I’m down, if I’m lagging again I’ll dip though |
Colton
07.26.20 | also should I make a Smash thread? idk about you guys but this one is super slow on my phone |
Cygnatti
07.26.20 | lmao, if you like. everyone can post their FC's their. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.26.20 | I want bomberman for smash |
Colton
07.26.20 | https://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=1187284 |
heyadam
07.27.20 | u can keep talking smash here just so this thread hits 1k lmao |
Cygnatti
07.27.20 | I'm very very close to starting my madness difficulty run. Gonna go with BL because I think they have the best units ~ Gonna recruit most other characters anyhow tho lol.
Also, not sure how to incorporate the DLC units into my party, if I ever bother doing that. |
barcafan21
07.27.20 | @cygnatti good luck and let us know how it goes lol, which units do you think will be your main ones? i just finished a hard GD playthrough, lysithea was super strong as was claude ofc. failnaught is so op |
heyadam
07.27.20 | Yuri is honestly super good once you do his paralogue and also get him trickster |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.27.20 | Yuri's class is trickster cuz he a gottdang trap boys |
heyadam
07.27.20 | he can’t trick me if I want it,
unless das the trick |
GreyShadow
07.27.20 | i still gotta do BL
but I wanna beat Ashen Wolves first
but i'm so god damn bad at it lol, i'm on like the 4th chapter I believe where I have to escape in the turn limit which is a nice change of pace but holy fuck, too many red units |
heyadam
07.27.20 | bro that one and the one with a literal billion golems were so infuriating haha. I got so screwed on a reinforcements round on that one |
ArsMoriendi
07.27.20 | What the fuck, big bads in this game have fortress that looks like it's from the future and they're playing dubstep in it? WTF
Weirdest choice ever, but it kinda makes me want a futuristic Fire Emblem with ray guns and shit |
ArsMoriendi
07.27.20 | It almost makes me wonder if the gods and saints are really just advanced aliens foooling the humans of Fodlan... |
heyadam
07.27.20 | lol ya that part of GD was so random but I was also about it |
Cygnatti
07.27.20 | the dubstep shit was so fuckin hilarious to me. I knew the evil dudes were gonna be futuristic but that still caught me offguard lmaooooooooo |
ArsMoriendi
07.27.20 | That's not in the others? |
Joeman82
07.27.20 | Ashen wolves is just reused maps and I only found like one of them fun ngl. I like the characters in the wolves if it’s any consolation.
BL is kinda rushed cuz even the devs said the didn’t add it in til last minute.
Also no Ars every route has a different final boss |
ArsMoriendi
07.27.20 | Lysithea: so powerful that she was the only reason I could defeat the final boss without anyone dying. Gets the final blow.
Epilogue: Lysthea is sent the to kitchen to cook for Raphael.
What the fuck game? lol
Also that S support with Linhardt was adorable and super gay :D
Also I guess Shamir and Ignatz are fucking or something? This epilogue is bizarre. |
Joeman82
07.27.20 | It’s standard for fire emblem to pair the two units with the highest supports with various degrees of chemistry.
Lysithea probably just wants to live a happy life cuz. Well. You know. Backstory and all. |
ArsMoriendi
07.28.20 | I'm just happy my horse riders (Leonie and Lorenz) were paried, I'd legit have them follow eachother around on horses and attack as a duo for like the last 6 chapters. And when I didn't have one on the battle I'd have one set as adjudant for the other.
Man this game is fun. Why does it have to be over? :( I guess I'll try the Black Eagles... |
Joeman82
07.28.20 | I mean there are like 16 games in the series and you can easily emulate like half of them. |
Cygnatti
08.01.20 | Started Madness mode and it's not so hard since I have some broken ass Gambits. Gambits really trivialize some situations. Lysithea is as busted as ever, single best unit already. Also, Yuri has gotten ridiculous stats overall too wtf is this guy. |
ArsMoriendi
08.01.20 | Do you have Raphael? That dude can take so many attacks without falling |
Cygnatti
08.01.20 | I don't have Raphael but tbh I might get all the characters if I care too. Problem with Raphael is that he gets doubled way too easily and mages body him too. |
heyadam
08.01.20 | I love Raphael so much haha. He’s so jovial |
Cygnatti
08.03.20 | Still pretty easy so far, but I imagine it gets rough after the time skip. I recall hardmode being rough then as well. |
heyadam
08.03.20 | it’s p easy the whole way through if you spec your units right. I’m having fun on hard rn bc it’s not absolutely mindless, but I’m also the type of person that would not enjoy maddening in the slightest |
Joeman82
08.03.20 | 3H is piss easy on any mode but maddening and painful on maddening.
Warp + the staff you get from Lorenz’s paralogue + dancer + stride battalion makes one turn clearing maps a breeze |
Joeman82
08.03.20 | But like a lot of the bullshit difficulties in new FE games they just add a bunch of unfair skill combos on the enemies and boost their hp by 20
Glad to see love for Big Raph. I like how simple and happy he is. It’s a stark contrast from everyone usually freaking out lol. |
ArsMoriendi
08.03.20 | Having now played the entire Golden Deer Route, Leonie/Linhardt paralog with the turtle demon was probably the hardest part |
Joeman82
08.03.20 | That one can be a tad tricky yeah. If you don’t use all the students in your house the first map post-timeskip can be really annoying. |
heyadam
08.04.20 | right?? I had to rely on Ingrid for my BL playthrough and she singlehandedly almost fucked me up for that map |
Joeman82
08.04.20 | My lorenz was doo doo stank and so was my Ignantz it was rough |
Cygnatti
08.04.20 | @joeman, in my two hard mode runs, I trained and recruited almost ALL the characters to about even levels. Meaning I purposefully entered missions with characters that weren't all that great.
It became very clear that this method is NOT viable in Maddening lmao. Which is why this Maddening run happens to be much easier this time. |
ArsMoriendi
08.04.20 | @Joeman: Put Lorenz on a horse and teach him dark magic, he makes a good dark knight for master class |
Cygnatti
08.04.20 | Lorenz would be great if he was a female unit. |
heyadam
08.04.20 | my Lorenz was pretty tanky for me iirc - ignutz was def the worst unit out of all of my playthroughs |
Cygnatti
08.04.20 | Legit cannot relate, my Ignatz get Speed at almost every level up. Still was not amazing tho. |
ArsMoriendi
08.04.20 | I wonder if he would've made a good Bow Knight so he could run away after attacking |
Cygnatti
08.04.20 | I always make him a Cavalier or Wyvern Rider (+advancements). All archers should prob be mounted tbh. Sniper class only gives +1 bow range which isn't as good as +2 or +3 movement. |
heyadam
08.04.20 | lmao can’t believe u had a useful ignutz. he’s the only unit that died during any of my playthroughs and it was literally the last turn of the last GD map. either he died or I had to redo the entire battle and I wasn’t down with that at the time lol |
Cygnatti
08.04.20 | Yeah, both my Ignatz and Leonie have always (2/3 playthrus) been good, both got ridiculous speed stats but had slightly low Attack - but everyone else tells me that theirs sucked. Conversely, ppl seem to love Raphael but mine wasn't so good ever so idk.
In my Maddening run, I decided not to have Ignatz be a main party member since I don't rly like his skills/stat/job acclimation (e.g. Ashe has Deadeye, giving bows up to like 6-7 range and otherwise has better stats than him except for speed). |
heyadam
08.04.20 | can we also talk about how hard this soundtrack goes at points? some of the compositions are so fuckin good |
Cygnatti
08.05.20 | okay so the paralogues are basically unbearable unless I bring my best units
finally found the maddening part of Maddening mode :/ |
ArsMoriendi
08.05.20 | I loved my Leonie, once I put her on a horse at least
I've said it once and I'll say it again, her and Lorenz make good horse buddies |
Cygnatti
08.10.20 | Hmm game is getting less hard! Even my extras are putting in work. Some strange characters are showing up this time around, like this is the first time Manuela has been good and she's killing it right now.
Silence is such a troll ass move, I love it. |
heyadam
08.10.20 | Manuela/Hanneman were never good for me so I never bothered working with them tbh, but that’s probably why they never got good in the first place |
Cygnatti
08.11.20 | I don't get why Dimitri is so convinced that Edelgard is the one that killed his family when she clearly didn't? |
heyadam
08.11.20 | Ya and like ed always seemed to be starting to say “btw that wasn’t my fault” like a million times but always got cut off. I like how they tried to give him an edge but there was just a little too much of a logic leap at some points. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.11.20 | I been playing outer worlds
Good game but my god does it look like shit on switch |
heyadam
08.11.20 | Ya I feel like AAA ports to the switch will probs be hit or miss. I mostly just stick with Nintendo exclusives or stuff that was made with the switch in mind — is it okay in handheld? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.11.20 | its passable in handheld and docked for me. i wouldnt say it looks much less shit in handheld but its fun regardless but i prefer it (and most first person 3d games and shooters in general) in docked anyway just because i dont like using the joycons for games like this |
Joeman82
08.11.20 | I would like path of radiance and radiant dawn port to switch...
Manuela’s personal skill is great on maddening |
Anthracks
08.12.20 | i just played 3 houses today after not playing since launch month and only being 10 hours into it and i have no idea what is going on anymore |
hxciluvatarhxc
08.12.20 | there are lots of pretty anime characters and most of them that arent in blue lions are cool there you do anthracks! |
heyadam
08.12.20 | the plot is the arrow and u r a cartwheeling byleth |
heyadam
08.13.20 | okay I just got to Gronder Field on my BL playthrough and it cleared up something that was confusing during my first playthrough with GD.
*****spoilers******
I was always like why tf wouldn’t Dimitri just team up with Claude there to fight edelgard. I was annoyed Dimitri was sending troops at me even though I had no problem with him lol — but they added a scene from his point of view on why and it solved that conundrum for me |
heyadam
08.13.20 | bruh hildah and a couple goons just ambushed the FUCK out of me lmao. caught me in a v bad spot |
ArsMoriendi
08.13.20 | I wanna buy the DLC, but I wanna ask how is it employed? Does the story just take a break at one point for 7 chapters to adress it and then go back to normal or? |
heyadam
08.13.20 | Nah! it’s an entirely separate save — the DLC is set timeline wise around chapter 6. After you clear the DLC it’ll open up content on your main save where you can recruit the new students and have extra paralogues/items and stuff |
ArsMoriendi
08.13.20 | Oh cool |
heyadam
08.13.20 | ya like I did four or five chapters on my current save and then paused on that save to steamroll the DLC and then went back to my current save and made use of all the add-on stuff.
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Cygnatti
08.13.20 | Btw, you can only recruit the dlc characters in your file if you haven't gotten to the time skip yet : (((((( |
heyadam
09.10.20 | pretty stoked for the new Hyrule Warriors game ngl |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.11.20 | Ya I fucks wit that |
Cygnatti
09.11.20 | looks fun! i'd prob only play with homies around tho lol |
heyadam
09.11.20 | fasho - not super into warriors games but they’re a good time. just stoked to continue some botw lore. the champion powers looked pretty rad |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.11.20 | I grew up with the warriors franchise so I have a soft spot for it, but the recipe has gotten a little tired. Think this is a really smart way to freshen it up as I will actually care about the story for once, the animation style is unique, and with the limited protagonists they will have time to perfect a few characters rather than spend a little time on 500 different mediocre characters. |
nol
09.11.20 | It’s a nice appetizer before BOTW2 |
heyadam
09.11.20 | agreed - it’s encouraging they’re working so closely with the Zelda team in general, and honestly a warriors format is kind of perfect for telling the story of an apocalyptic war. I don’t think anyone is going into this hoping it’s anywhere near as good as botw but that it’ll just be a good ass time to get a Zelda fix before botw2 (which is probs my most anticipated game ever) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.11.20 | Ye
Also that immortals fenyx rising game looks promising |
nol
09.12.20 | Can’t wait to see how everyone fucking dies |
nol
09.12.20 | Have any of you weebs played persona 5 (or any persona/shin megami game)? I’m playing persona 5 right now and it’s a blast, definitely reminds me of three houses in its rpg elements (but, imo, done much better)
The music is toooo good. |
heyadam
09.12.20 | I fuckin love P5 - bought Royal to play eventually when I get that itch again. And yeah, bops for dayyyyz |
nol
09.12.20 | It’s so much fun, I’ve been sinking in hours a day. Almost going too fast I feel, I’m not “taking my time” as the loading screen advises 😂
Had a similar arch to 3H in that the first 15-20 hours you are like “WTF There is too much going on, I can’t keep track of all this shit,” but the more you play the more the routine and calendar sets in and it becomes a surprisingly chill and relaxing game |
heyadam
09.12.20 | Makoto is waifu |
nol
09.12.20 | she wouldn’t go out with me til I hit the books, so I hit dem fucking books |
heyadam
09.12.20 | Lmao
*students whispering*
“you bet your ass I’m in here studying” |
heyadam
09.12.20 | I legit used the fortune confidant to boost my knowledge and charm HELLA for makoto |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.12.20 | I was trying to think of what other characters could possibly be playable in new hyrule warriors beyond link, zelda, and the four homies and just remembered that impa is in BoTW |
heyadam
09.12.20 | Yeah and maybe like the current princes/princesses too? Like Sidon and shit — but maybe their combat would be too comparable to the champions |
heyadam
09.12.20 | oh wait duh lmao, they weren’t around back then. Oopsie |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.12.20 | Haha yeah. I'm trying to think of if there are any other old ass muhfuckers in BoTW that could have been around back then to kick some ass... I guess there is a chance we will be able to play as the king |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.12.20 | I just dont see warriors leaving the playable cast list at 6 characters considering how many they usually have. And although they often let you play as villains too I dont see how calamity ganon could he a playable character |
heyadam
09.12.20 | bro, collapsing bokoblin dicks as king brohoam sounds awesome tbh.
they might just develop new characters? like some ninja clan generals, hylian generals etc. wouldn't be opposed to that because the main draw is obvi using water tornado and spearing homies with fish waifu |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.12.20 | Yeah I dont mind a smaller roster if that means they will focus on making those characters movesets top quality (as some of the original hyrule warriors characters were fucking aids to play as) but I do hope they fill it out with at least a few surprises |
ArsMoriendi
09.17.20 | Doing the Cindered Shadows DLC, so when I eventually do the Black Eagles and Blue Lion Routes, I'll have the unlocked content from it to use |
Cygnatti
09.17.20 | mario 3d all stars looks bad :/ oh well! some day, i guess. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.17.20 | I mean, it looks like exactly what it is and not a thing more
Which in this instance is disappointing imo |
heyadam
09.22.20 | went to download a game from the switch store last night and it NUKED my micro sd card. no idea what happened lol. It all of a sudden just didn’t recognize it anymore - luckily the card itself still works so I was able to back up the data and I’m transferring it over to a new card rn. Fingers crossed it works |
ArsMoriendi
09.28.20 | Holy fuck chapter 4 of Cindered Shadows is evil WHAT IS THIS MAP |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.28.20 | hows ur sd adam |
heyadam
10.03.20 | lmao sorry just saw this pots. That one wasn't saveable to use on the switch but it works outside the switch (?). No fuckin clue what happened on that one.
Also, been playing so much Breath of the Waifu its absurd. Genshin Impact is actually a p good time. |
heyadam
10.03.20 | Ars which one is that? Was that the golem one? |
ArsMoriendi
10.03.20 | The one where it follows you and you can't defeat it, and the one where there's like 30 enemies at once at the end
I beat it finally, up to the chapter 6 which is easier so far but still crazy |
heyadam
10.03.20 | dude ya that map was fucking bonkers. I made it to the final corridor and almost lost based on a literal SINGLE units positioning |
ArsMoriendi
10.03.20 | Aelfric is so fucking creepy, like a stalker
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.03.20 | "lmao sorry just saw this pots. That one wasn't saveable to use on the switch but it works outside the switch (?)."
I had something like that happen with one of mine once. It turned out to be a mac issue where copying the data a certain way when formatting for switch made it not work. Google helped me fix it. Maybe could be a similar fixable problem? |
heyadam
10.04.20 | It's just weird because this sd card was exclusively used on the switch, and I had never backed up my data up yet. I downloaded a game, the sd card got corrupted, and then I tried seeing if it would work with my laptop and it did so I backed up the content there. Bought a new SD card and transferred everything to that one and it's good to go.
Not quite sure what happened but all seems to be well now lol. |
heyadam
10.04.20 | also I'm a big ole fuckin nerd and I'm running a d&d campaign and have used a lot of the music from this soundtrack and ma bois are hype on it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.04.20 | Yeah this only happened to me after trying to back stuff up too |
ArsMoriendi
10.04.20 | Just started a new game now that I beat the DLC and...
While I'm not going to, because that'd be dumb since I already finished Verdant Wind, I'm super tempted by The Golden Deer, they're clearly the coolest house :|
Oh well, just chose Black Eagles |
heyadam
10.04.20 | I need to finish my BL playthrough. Was like 2/3 through it when the rona and ensuing madness hit and I haven't picked it back up since then. It's not like the greatest game of all time, but for some reason I just really love spending time dicking around on it. Probs my fav switch game |
heyadam
10.04.20 | also BE is definitely an interesting route Ars |
ArsMoriendi
10.05.20 | Thanks to the plus featuring thing I've been recruiting like crazy I might try to recruit everyone I can lol
Marianne, Leonie, Ashe, and Annette, and all of the Ashen Wolves lol
Also, Hubert is legit just stock "creepy villain" so far and I hate him. Caspar and Petra are treasures though |
heyadam
10.05.20 | Petra with Killing Edge makes the game a fucking joke haha. It’s more that there’s a small percentage of her *not* to crit |
ArsMoriendi
10.05.20 | Good to note, buying her one before my next battle |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.05.20 | Im not sure why people dont just start following and worshipoing Petra when she gets a Killing Edge Considering SHES A FUCKING GOD |
heyadam
10.05.20 | lmao I gave her all the shit that increases the length of her movement and quite literally chose any character I wanted to expire once a turn |
Cygnatti
10.05.20 | She's kinda busted, only problem with her is that she doesn't get access to Brawler classes, which are downright broken.
My favorite thing to do right now is maximize Evasion stats. Petra or Felix with Sword Prowess (+20 Ev), Axe Breaker (+20 Ev vs Axes), battalion (+15 to 30), Alert Stance+ (+30 Ev if you wait), and Evasion Ring (+10)
Around +90 to +120 evasion, so most people legit cannot hit them.
This works really well to solo an entire group of people by throwing them into a pit of enemies and watching them try to hit Felix/Petra who hold Killing Edges. Extra points if you have the Vantage skill too. |
Cygnatti
10.05.20 | Usually they murder or heavily damage everyone that tries to hit them, whilst not getting hit at all. And I just let the other teammates pick off the enemeis that didn't die and they move onto the next pit of enemies that won't be able to hit them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.05.20 | Lmao |
ArsMoriendi
10.05.20 | The internet says that Anna character is the worst in the entire game, so I'm made her a benchwarmer
Shame that one of the DLC characters would be so sucky, but her lectures are good for stat boosting |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.05.20 | Anna was deffs not one of my worst |
Cygnatti
10.05.20 | Anna is a pretty good unit! My problem with her is that she doesn't really have any supports and that's such a deal breaker for me. |
Cygnatti
10.05.20 | If y'all bother to get the DLC, all 4 of those classes are pretty insane btw |
heyadam
10.05.20 | dude ya, and Yuri is a god tier trickster |
heyadam
10.05.20 | Anna was poo poo 4 me : ( |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Is it bad that I recruited literally every student (minus Claude, Hilda, Dedue, and Dimitri obviously) ? lol |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Ingrid during her paralogue: *gives Dorothea a friendship ring*
Dorothea being gay: INGRID ARE YOU PROPOSING ME ME? I ACCEPT!
Ingrid being straight: Huh? It's just a thank you gift for helping me |
nol
10.07.20 | new fire emblem when |
nol
10.07.20 | Wish they’d Remake FE6 AKA the one with Roy. |
heyadam
10.07.20 | I’m really hoping they port a lot of the back catalogue to the switch. Would be really awesome |
nol
10.07.20 | Kinda dumb how many games they have sitting in the vault. If Fire Emblem Heroes proves anything it’s that there could be a loyal fanbase for any game in this series that were remade/ported. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | "Is it bad that I recruited literally every student (minus Claude, Hilda, Dedue, and Dimitri obviously) ? lol"
Yes, solely because I'm outraged that you would miss Hilda when she should have been ur first priority |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | Oh wait u can only recruit her in BE on the church route |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Yeah I'm probably going with "be evil with Edlegard" this time around |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | Tis a fun one |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Also my first priority for recruiting was Mercedes because I NEED to see her interact with Jeritza |
Colton
10.07.20 | is this game similar to Valkyria Chronicles |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | If they made Hilda playable in smash instead of byleth I would have been ECSTATIC |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Too much of a weird pipe dream (IE: Geno levels)
Honestly, the most realistic three houses request outside of Byleth would be Edlegard |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | Honestly would have been stoked on that too
I would have been stoked on any fire emblem character that specialized in an axe rather than a sword tbh. I know byleth has the whole weapon triangle but I would have appreciated a character that specialized in a weapon that the other 57 fe characters dont use |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | A tanky, slow, but strong axe character would be interesting
Closest we have to that is Simon Belmont |
Colton
10.07.20 | Byleth is a horrible name like yogurt |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | Yeah it really is the worst name |
nol
10.07.20 | it's got a rich etymology |
nol
10.07.20 | also the correct axe using fire emblem character to get into smash would be Hector. blue hair regardless.
The only other FE character I really want playable at this point is the Black Knight, although his assist trophy being the strongest in the game is pretty dope. |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | Byleth is an awful name, but Dedue is worse |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | Yeah I've been saying hector should be in smash for years now |
nol
10.07.20 | The only other FE character I really want playable at this point is the Black Knight, although his assist trophy being the strongest in the game is pretty dope.
and his Mii Costume is awesome tho a bit puny |
ArsMoriendi
10.07.20 | I'm only really attached to Three Houses characters, but if I had a pipe dream pick it'd probably be Petra tbh, she's cool as fuck, or maybe like Claude |
nol
10.07.20 | Black Knight actually has a decent shot for the next smash when they wipe Roy, Chrom, Robin, Corrin, and Byleth from the face of the planet. He's got an assist trophy and a super detailed base-game mii costume, and he used to be featured on a stage. Also also, he's probably the most iconic villain in the entire series.
Marth, Lucina (promoted to semi-clone), Ike and the Black Knight would be a neat FE smash roster. (BK secretly has blue hair too)
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nol
10.07.20 | Ike can wield axes in Radiant Dawn so they could work that in, Black Knight has some magik skillz, though overall would be comparable to a heavier Ike (both Ike and BK were trained by the same master, so have similar fighting styles). |
nol
10.07.20 | But honestly BK might be too much of a bad-ass to work as a character. Might be better as a boss. Or an assist trophy..... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.07.20 | They couldnt have Petra in smash because to be loyal to her character they'd have to make it so it's impossible to hit her and she 1 hit KO's 100% of the time |
heyadam
10.07.20 | “What should I do?”
“No, it’s ‘what should you dedue?’” |
heyadam
10.07.20 | Lmao ya Petra would be god tier at smash |
ArsMoriendi
10.08.20 | I'm tempted to let Hubert die on purpose, he might be my least favorite character in the game by far lol
Legit he's just edgy vampire emo Disney stock villain and I hate it. He probably listens to Evanescence |
Cygnatti
10.08.20 | okay but he's 1 of like only 3 dark mages in the game, and dark magic is busted |
nol
10.08.20 | nah he’s cool loyal edgy |
ArsMoriendi
10.08.20 | "nah he’s cool loyal edgy"
Maybe if you're like 13
"okay but he's 1 of like only 3 dark mages in the game, and dark magic is busted"
I have Lysithea recruited sooo |
nol
10.08.20 | I played it in English and he’s knew of the only characters who’s voice actors actually gave a fuck.
he’s meant to be a lil goofy. |
Cygnatti
10.08.20 | Lysithea is busted. She could legit solo entire maps, so long as she doesn't run out of spells. It's so funny that she's like the only dark mage in the game, that isn't even allowed to take dark mage classes. Imagine how even better she'd be if she was given dark mage classes.
I didn't like Hubert at first, but I dig him these days. A legit ride or die for Ms. Edelgard. |
ArsMoriendi
10.08.20 | "She could legit solo entire maps:
Idk, her defense sucks and often gets one shot, so maybe have Balthus as a wall in front of her and Marianne as a healer behind, but yeah attack wise she'd insane |
Cygnatti
10.08.20 | I have the item that gives her +2 range, it's lit. Also, my lysithea is bulky because of an exploit i did lol |
MyNameIsPencil
10.08.20 | marianne is best girl |
heyadam
10.08.20 | Agreed reg Lysithea. Legit no one would even have the chance to come near her - every single thing is one shot into oblivion |
heyadam
10.08.20 | also bout to hit 1k comments on this bad boi lmao |
nol
10.09.20 | Radiant Dawn (wii fire emblem) has a character named Nolan, who's an axe fighter with actually well rounded stats instead of just incredible health and attack and shit everything else. Ended up as one of my best chars in a long, grueling game.
very pleasing |
nol
10.09.20 | it's like "thank you for your dedication to this series, have a 10/10 character in your likeness" |
heyadam
10.09.20 | I haven’t owned a Nintendo console between the N64 and Switch (except for game boy advanced I guess) so I still haven’t played any of the other games in the series :/ really hoping for some ports so I can change that |
nol
10.09.20 | two of the best in the US are on gba. but I'd just play with an emulator fr |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.10.20 | Hubert is the goodest boy |
heyadam
10.10.20 | gay4yuri |
heyadam
10.10.20 | hubert's support convos are the best tho |
ArsMoriendi
10.10.20 | I'm fucking evil
I made Annette fight Gilbert |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.10.20 | hubert is such a cat |
Cygnatti
10.10.20 | heyadam, I have Fire Emblem - Shadow Dragon rom if you ever wanna play it |
nol
10.10.20 | please don’t play shadow dragon, k thx |
nol
10.10.20 | Worse than fates (unless you are talking about the OG nes version but I doubt it) |
heyadam
10.10.20 | thanks for the offer cyg! I have a shitload of things on the backlog of games to get through first — seriously hoping ports come over though, that would just make a lot of sense. Especially after some sort of announcement of the next game whenever that happens |
Cygnatti
10.10.20 | shadow dragon ain't bad smh |
ArsMoriendi
10.12.20 | Stupid Edlegard missed Claude so I couldn't spare him :|
I was out of divine pulses and Byleth was nnot close enough to attack, I had to double team him with Ignatz and Lysithea
urgh
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nol
10.12.20 | Divine Pulse is for the weak
I used it like 15 times on first playthrough and it made me feel dirty |
ArsMoriendi
10.12.20 | We get it, you're an old school Fire Emblem elitist lol |
nol
10.12.20 | This game is def built around divine pulse, so I’ll admit I’m kinda silly for not taking advantage of it
But old habit die hard so if I feel the need to restart the game every time one of my units dies by God I WILL. At least I don’t let em stay dead lol |
nol
10.12.20 | And also yes I find this game a bit overrated and yes it’s because I’m familiar with other games in the series |
nol
10.12.20 | It’s still quite good and full of valuable content |
heyadam
10.12.20 | From what I know and have seen from the rest of the series it feels like 3H might just provide a little bit more casual of an FE experience which I’m super down for. Just enough to make me feel like I’m thinking but not punishing enough to make me hate my life lol |
nol
10.12.20 | I found this game to be super punishing comparatively tbh. Some of the monsters with 4 separate health bars are just fucking bullshit |
nol
10.12.20 | Which is why divine pulse is a necessity in this game |
nol
10.12.20 | I just spent 3 hours writing a list ranking the FE games I’ve played, put over 1000 words into it, and the whole list got wiped before I saved it. Really awesome. You’ll still hear my thoughts one day....... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.12.20 | Yeah I'm gonna have to hard disagree about that, I've played normal difficulty across the board for FE games and this was by faaaar the least punishing. Between the choice to not have permadeath, severely OP units, and divine pulse this shit was an absolute cake walk. Barely ever even had to use divine pulse to begin with but it's basically a safeguard from having to restart hour + long battles because you fucked up and lost someone important which was common for me in the older entries. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.12.20 | Noler you should know the refresh trick so that lists dont time out by now |
nol
10.12.20 | Well I played on hard if that makes a difference. |
nol
10.12.20 | I probably didn’t do as much monastery prepping as I should have, but that’s because I didn’t fucking want to. |
heyadam
10.12.20 | they did a gr8 job making the monastery basically nonexistent if you’re wanted it to be. even in my third play through I liked running around in there tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.12.20 | yeah on my second run i had the monastery shit figured out well enough that i could really streamline it and not waste much time there at all |
nol
10.12.20 | /thread |
heyadam
10.12.20 | *takes big sip of mt dew* |
Cygnatti
10.13.20 | "I just spent 3 hours writing a list ranking the FE games I’ve played, put over 1000 words into it, and the whole list got wiped before I saved it. Really awesome. You’ll still hear my thoughts one day......."
Noler PLEASE write things down in MICROSOFT OFFICE WORD or NOTEPAD first and saving it before posting anything significant on spuntik. |
Cygnatti
10.13.20 | This game is probably the easiest it's ever been in because well the important thing about this game is that none of the units are supposed to be bad units (except like the male professor, but even still). Furthermore, each of the 3 groups needed to be about evenly as good as the others. Meaning if one group had a broken unit, then the other two will likely also be broken. And also, you have two main characters in this game. The Avatar, and the Lord - both are ridiculously broken.
In previous fire emblem games, several units joined your party with the condition that you knew they were just gonna be shitty units. |
heyadam
10.13.20 | Ignutz is shit agreed |
Cygnatti
10.13.20 | can't relate fam, my ignatz had mad speed, doubled every bitch in sight |
nol
10.13.20 | My Petra started out good and ended up ass because I was dead set on making her my dancer. Maybe that’s the root of my problems haha. |
Cygnatti
10.13.20 | Dancer has... kinda bad stats. You'll want your dancer to be a support unit, almost certainly a healer since dancers get full magic uses.
I've actually forgotten to get a dancer in my last two runs of the game lmaooo. |
nol
10.13.20 | Yeah yeah ik dancer's aren't typically good attack units. Kinda just decided on Petra for the Dancer and said fuck it and stuck with it. Which was really my mentality throughout my whole play through. |
nol
10.13.20 | My Byleth and Edelgard were certainly OP as fuck, and Hubert and Dorothea are great magic users, Bernie's got dat range... But I had issues with most of my non-Lord units' defenses. Ferdinand and Caspar didn't make very good meat shields.
Ended up using Jeritza a lot and I usually don't like using late-game recruits. |
heyadam
10.13.20 | noler u need to delete that cursed save bc in no way ever should Petra be a shit unit. |
nol
10.13.20 | yes but she dances |
heyadam
10.13.20 | she dances with a sword as she dodges everything and gats any unit she sees |
nol
10.13.20 | hmmm not the same |
nol
10.13.20 | To be fair, when I say I had some difficulty with this game I'm almost entirely talking about the level where you kill Dimitri, Mercedes, Dedue, and Sylvain as BE. Rest of the game wasn't too hard, just long. |
nol
10.14.20 | FINALLY beat Edelgard’s story today, my shitty Petra notwithstanding. RIP Caspar :( |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Make that dumb toddler with green hair your dancer so you dont feel like you've squandered a cool characters potential |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Hearing about petra being used as a dancer literally hurts my feelings |
heyadam
10.14.20 | Lmao I was actually affronted ngl |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | My Petra is a mortal savant
I made Dorothea my dancer since she's good at sword and reason and has bad defense |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Dorothea is a good dancer pick |
Cygnatti
10.14.20 | I made Flayn my first dancer and it works really well. She has rescue or warp and fortify which are insane and mitigate how often she actually needs to heal instead of dance. |
nol
10.14.20 | stats were not the reasoning behind my Petra dancer pick
and I beat the game so apparently it wasn’t an affront to my winning potential |
nol
10.14.20 | Ranking my units on endgame viability:
1) Edelgard
2) Byleth
3) Jeritza
4) Bernadetta
5) Dorothea
6) Hubert
7) Felix
8) Ferdinand
9) Ingrid
10) Petra (I am sorry)
11) Linhardt
12) Caspar (RIP) |
nol
10.14.20 | Apparently I played the secret route without knowing |
Ocean of Noise
10.14.20 | That's lucky, most people end up playing the church route without knowing lol
The church route is kind of better in a lot of ways but Edelgard's route is more unique and has a great ending |
Cygnatti
10.14.20 | Church route SUCKS if only because it's rather similar to one of the other routes, but more importantly, YOU DON'T GET A LORD'S BATTALION FOR DOING IT REEEEE |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | My Lorenz became a glass cannon during my Black Eagles route somehow, which is weird because I don't think he's supposed to be? At least he wasn't when I played Verdant Wind. Legit can one shot almost anything but can't take a hit |
nol
10.14.20 | Glass cannon is an appropriate descriptor for every non-lord unit on my BE playthrough lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Man you'd have to put a lot of effort into making a unit more OP than Byleth considering how little effort you have to put into making Byleth OP af (zero effort) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Ur wrong on petra tho but that's just because you squandered her
For me 1) byleth
2) Ed
3) Petra
4) Who needs the rest lol |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | You need a healer, and I vote for Mercedes because unlike Marianne and Linhardt, she can take a hit if you have to put her somewhere risky... unless it's a sword unit, but those cheat I swear |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | I wouldn't be caught dead with Mercedes or Marianne on my team so its Linhardt by default for me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | That being said, who needs a healer when two of your units can never be hit and the other one can eat the damage like a literal tank |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | WHAT you don't like Mercedes? How? She's a ray of sunshine and is only really ever rude if someone like Lorenz or Sylvain are hitting on her. Probably my favorite Blue Lion other tham maybe Felix
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | I like felix a lot
Mercedes is one of those basic bitches with grandma energy |
nol
10.14.20 | Linhardt felt so underwhelming throughout my playthrough. His spells never healed enough health. I ended up divvying out a ton of elixirs and conconctions to my units for the endgame instead of relying on an OP healer. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Marianne is worse tho, shes a horse girl AND a devout religious type |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | My lindhardt was good |
nol
10.14.20 | For some reason, I found great pleasure in slaughtering Mercedes. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Proud of u |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Slaughtering ashe always hurt me a little bit
Tryna think of others that were particularly painful
Certainly not the green haired pegasus toddler |
nol
10.14.20 | Felix is cool. There’s always one cool, aloof myrmidon character in a Fire Emblem game, and Felix fits the bill. |
nol
10.14.20 | Killing Flayn pissed me off because she was supposed to be my Pegasus knight |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | Ignatz is the worst unit in the game yeah... well other than like Anna, but that's the programmers fault for giving her 0 support conversations
I don't see Mercedes as basic, just kinda hyper-femme. I guess the baking things makes her seem Grandmotherish, but it may also help to note that she's canonically older than the rest of the students (22 pre-time skip, 27 post timeskip) so she kind of treats the others with maturity idk
I am not happy with this Mercedes slander |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | @noler: why do you let so many of them die? I legit just restart the game if I run out of divine pulses because fuck it
Maybe that's "cheating" but I don't play to "play honestly," I play to have fun |
Cygnatti
10.14.20 | @Ars, Lorenz is a mixed unit, his stats are literally the same as Byleths but with -5 to -10% growths per stat. he's generally a pretty decent unit with good defense and but low speed.
unfortunately, he gets no access to Valkyrie and that really sucks because his magic is much stronger than his spears but his skillset is generally favored to physical classes instead (cavalier, paladin, etc.). |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | I made him a dark knight |
nol
10.14.20 | @Ars: Caspar was the only character in my squad I let die, and that was on the very last enemy in the game. Everyone else I mentioned dies in the story.
Divine pulse isn't cheating at all! I just choose not to use it because I personally find the game more rewarding and challenging that way. No right or wrong way, just whatever fits your play style. Like the choice between Classic and Casual. I know I said it's "for the weak" but I was just messing around.
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heyadam
10.14.20 | Killing Bernie was always a bummer bc she just wanted to live a life not being scared but oopsie here comes her professor wielding a giant flaming Dino spine sword |
nol
10.14.20 | Ahh the classic "What the fuck is this innocent child doing on a battlefield" character archetype. |
nol
10.14.20 | @Ars: I've also restarted the game 100 times on every Fire Emblem I've played so if that's cheating, I'm a dirty cheater |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | "Everyone else I mentioned dies in the story."
OHHH
"Killing Bernie was always a bummer bc she just wanted to live a life not being scared but oopsie here comes her professor wielding a giant flaming Dino spine sword"
Bro when I did Verdant Wind, I let Dimitri kill her because I couldnt bring myself to do it, then I killed Dimitri lol |
heyadam
10.14.20 | I thought if byleth killed her she would just retreat but no byleth just fuckin gutted her as everyone watched in horror - the game basically forces it on you too bc if you avoid her you’re cut off from like 90% of the map lol |
ArsMoriendi
10.14.20 | I fought every other Black Eagle first, let Dimitri kill Bernadetta, killed Dimitri, and spared the other Blue Lions |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | I've only done church and edel route so I haven't been forced to kill most of the most cherished
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zakalwe
10.14.20 | The fuck is fire emblem? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Google it, crone |
Colton
10.14.20 | is this game like Valkyria Chronicles |
nol
10.14.20 | yes
In fact, Valkyria Chronicles is kind of a knock-off of fire emblem/advance wars in general, while this specific Fire Emblem game has elements that borrow some of the more novel aspects of VC.
They inspired/ripped-off each other. |
zakalwe
10.14.20 | It looks incredible if you’re the sort who likes to sniff knickers and has a micro penis |
nol
10.14.20 | looks like your type of game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | "It looks incredible if you’re the sort who likes to sniff knickers and has a micro penis"
So your wife? |
Colton
10.14.20 | got him with the reverse uno card
so noler it's basically like how Rock Band copied Guitar Hero and then Guitar Hero copied Rock Band after? |
zakalwe
10.14.20 | I’ve ordered the entire set. I’ll stream the lot, inanely shouting at the camera like an absolute mong. |
Colton
10.14.20 | Zak pretending he knows what streaming is cause he overheard the grandkids talking about it |
nol
10.14.20 | Weird analogy but yeah, oddly accurate. Although, Fire Emblem as a whole is much superior in my eyes. Legendary series that dates back further than people realize. Did you know Marth is older than Kirby?
Fire Emblem hit its 30th anniversary on 4/20 this year (yeet!) |
nol
10.14.20 | Fire Emblem 2D All-Stars when |
heyadam
10.14.20 | I just tried Valkyria chronicles a couple weeks ago and I’m not super into it :( it feels clunky |
Colton
10.14.20 | I despised the dialogue in Valkyria Chronicles but the gameplay was pretty fun. might try Fire Emblem if I can turn the dialogue volume off and put subtitles on |
Colton
10.14.20 | actually fuck idk it's probably gonna be a full $90 cause Nintendo games never get cheaper |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.14.20 | Turn Japanese language on subtitles on |
Colton
10.14.20 | definitely not |
nol
10.14.20 | Map design in Valkyria is incredible. |
nol
10.14.20 | Three Houses' writing and dialogue is great, but the English voice acting is seriously hit or miss. Pretty similar to Valkyria in that department. |
nol
10.14.20 | But character design is where Fire Emblem really shines compared to other strategy games (not every character is a blue-haired sword-slinging royal fuckboi, despite what smash wants you to think). The characters in Three Houses make the characters in Valkyria feel like lifeless shells. |
Colton
10.14.20 | hmm how much of the game is focused on dialogue and story compared to gameplay? |
heyadam
10.14.20 | you can steamroll non combat content or spend as much time as you want on it tbh |
nol
10.15.20 | If you want a strictly gameplay focused FE play one of the GBA games on an emulator. Because this game has HELLA dialogue and narrative dumps. Plus you won’t have to worry about voice acting and it will cost you 0.00$ |
Colton
10.15.20 | hmm interesting idea. does the gameplay from those games really hold up to Three Houses? |
nol
10.15.20 | Adam knows it’s true that’s why he dodged the question and said “ehhh it’s skippable”
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nol
10.15.20 | Gameplay on the older titles is way more streamlined. Characters have a lot more limitations, but imo that makes them feel more specialized. On the surface the gameplay looks very similar, but the older titles are more focused and precise, where three houses is expansive and lets you do whatever with whoever. Three Houses is kinda the BOTW of Fire Emblem. |
nol
10.15.20 | btw Adam that Showbread album is great
YOUR EULOGY, IS LIKE POETRY. BUT! |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | Everything was going well in the Dimitri battle until the Dedue monster murdered Sylvain and Annette :| and I was too impatient to turn back and now they're permanently dead
This is what I get for bringing my 6 Blue Lions in for that battle :| |
Cygnatti
10.15.20 | ^I hope you didn't save that one! just restart! |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | I did, I was too close to the end and I'll see them again when I eventually try out Azure Moon
I'm bringing all of the Black Eagles into the final battle anyway, so I guess I don't need them, though Sylvain was my only Great Knight so it still kinda stings. |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | FUCK all of Sylvain's axes are in my convoy, that stings |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.20 | "hmm how much of the game is focused on dialogue and story compared to gameplay?"
depends on whether or not you want to engage in dialogue and story. you can reaaaaaalllllyyyyyyyy stretch that shit out or you can pretty much avoid it entirely. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.20 | "Turn Japanese language on subtitles on"
"definitely not"
games and movies etc are almost universally better in their native language for obvious reasons. thats the closest you can get without understanding |
Ocean of Noise
10.15.20 | On my first playthrough I tried to sit through every piece of dialogue. Then I realized that it was literally doubling the length of my playthrough so I just stopped. I skip most of the dialogue in the monastery now. |
Ocean of Noise
10.15.20 | It's impressive how almost all the dialogue in the game is voice acted but it also makes me feel bad when I skip so much of it lol |
Colton
10.15.20 | "games and movies etc are almost universally better in their native language for obvious reasons. thats the closest you can get without understanding"
that is patently false |
Ocean of Noise
10.15.20 | It's certainly false for this game, because the English dub for this game is absolutely stellar. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.20 | wow. you think dubs can appropriately portray rhythm, tonality, and the myriad of other intentional nuances that are lost in translation when changed from the native language it was made in?
this is so stupid. i'm not even going to argue about this. i'm so bored of your aggressively contentious nature. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.20 | "It's certainly false for this game, because the English dub for this game is absolutely stellar."
i've played in both english and japanese and i prefer the japanese by far. there are a couple ok voiceovers in the english version but a lot of them are bad |
heyadam
10.15.20 | og language always better agreed, but dubs can def be enjoyable. this one is aight |
nol
10.15.20 | Depends on the character. The voice actors are hit or miss. |
Colton
10.15.20 | lol Pots I was just fucking with you |
Colton
10.15.20 | dubs suck |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | Just beat Crimson Flower and I didn't lose a single unit against Rhea (though Shamir was close, one more turn and she'd be gone)
Honestly, the Dedue monster was probably the hardest part of that path, oh well only lost 2 units... |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | I hope the next Fire Emblem has more male same-sex S Supports
And Alois and Gilbert don't count since they're platonic... I had to pick Jeritza for Crimson Flower since I already did Linhardt for Verdant Wind... (saving Yuri for Azure Moon and there won't even be any left for Silver Snow :| maybe I'll be do female Byleth for that so I can pick whoever I want...) |
Cygnatti
10.15.20 | congratz ars and yeah the gay options in this game are LAME |
ArsMoriendi
10.15.20 | If all characters were options:
Verdant Wind - Claude (duh)
Crimson Flower - Caspar
Azure Moon - Felix
Silver Snow - uhhhhhh I guess Linhardt actually, deff the best actual bi male character
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heyadam
10.15.20 | Yuri is husbando |
nol
10.22.20 | HOLY SHIT ITS HAPPENING FIRE EMBLEM SWITCH PORTS !!!!
https://youtu.be/8xNUYS-tJZQ
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nol
10.22.20 | Awesome video too |
nol
10.22.20 | It’s like we spoke it into existence. 30 year old game and this is the first time the NES version has ever been available in America. So awesome! I’d bet more ports are on the way too 😍😍 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.22.20 | Fucking colton |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.22.20 | 3 houses gay baes are Hubert, Sylvain, Felix, Claude, Alois, Jeritzia, Yuri, Jeralt, Nemesis and Felix's dad
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heyadam
10.22.20 | waaaaaat?! the ports are real :’) |
heyadam
10.22.20 | I was hoping it would be one of the more recent ones tbh just because it'll be a little more like I'm used to, but going back to the og might be fun. I'll buy it for sure cause it's only $6, but not sure when I'll get around to it |
heyadam
10.22.20 | Rodrigue's facial hair does indeed allow him to be in the same vein as Sylvain, Claude and Yuri. |
nol
10.22.20 | It’s a sign of things to come! More ports will come, I’m positive. |
heyadam
10.22.20 | thus saith noler |
nol
10.22.20 | It makes sense that they’d want Shadow Dragon in the spotlight for its 30th anniversary, but this definitely proves a demand for those unreleased FE games... I feel this is meant to gauge interest in classic FE games, and if it does well they’ll open the floodgates and let those ports pour in. |
Trebor.
10.22.20 | 4,5,6 need official releases more than 1-3 |
nol
10.22.20 | I 100% agree. |
ArsMoriendi
10.22.20 | "3 houses gay baes are Hubert, Sylvain, Felix, Claude, Alois, Jeritzia, Yuri, Jeralt, Nemesis and Felix's dad"
Most of these are fine, but the fact you like a literal psychopath (Jeritza) and the wrinkly ancient dude (Nemesis) is really strange
Oh and Hubert, who an emo Twilight vampire kid looking dude except somehow wrinkly despite that fact he's like 25 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.22.20 | You just cant handle an edgy dad |
nol
10.22.20 | ^ |
nol
10.26.20 | I copped that Shadow Dragon special edition before the scalpers poached em all. Usually not one for Special Editions, but those collectibles look really neat, especially that 222-page art book. Old fire emblem art looks like CDI Link and it’s wonderful. |
nol
10.26.20 | https://images.app.goo.gl/UTEE1PfbNTcG9sdy7
pant-less marth is best marth |
Cygnatti
10.26.20 | honestly, Hubert woulda been a great M/M support smh! |
heyadam
10.29.20 | Potts you gonna play the Tundra DLC for sw/sh? Isle of Armor was pretty doodoo but I heard the legendary hunting is p fun on tundra |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | I actually liked isle of armor. Both dlcs have given me different flavors. Isle of armor map was way cooler and it was fun just filling out more pokedex. Tundra doesnt have much new dex to fill but the battling is funnier and legendary hunting is cool.
In other news I played the new hyrule warriors demo and impa is absolutely bonkers |
heyadam
10.29.20 | oh shiiiiiiiit! didn’t even know that demo was out. pretty fuckin stoked for that game.
isle coulda been chill for me but idk why I just didn’t have a good time the first few hours I spent with it. I’ll go back and finish — at least they tried to change things up a little bit with tundra |
heyadam
10.29.20 | caught Lugia today |
Veks
10.29.20 | Anyone here play Genshin Impact?
Downloaded today and started playing. Seems really good for a game like this and since i never got to play Breath of the Wild i am kind of happy this exists. |
Uzumaki
10.29.20 | @noler where did you cop a preorder? Nintendo didn’t have anything and GameStop and Best Buy were gone in seconds. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | I lost all interest in Genshin when I found out it was a gacha game |
Veks
10.29.20 | Yeah that is annoying. But i don't intend on being too serious about it so i don't expect it to affect me too much.
The game does have potential and i guess if it's a success we might see more games like it but without the gacha model.
I am pretty hyped for a game called Blue Protocol. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | The fact that games of this model can be so successful is extremely disconcerting to me tbqh |
heyadam
10.29.20 | I’m actually going hella strong in Genshin haha. Agree about gacha in general (and the actual gacha rates rn in Genshin are abysmal) but as a “free” game, you genuinely do get a ton of free content out of it.
What’s your UID Veks? I’ll add you and if you ever need materials when I’m on or whatever you can come raid my world lol. |
Veks
10.29.20 | What's most disconcerting is how these games are much more profitable than any other business MODEL. Square Enix makes more money with a mobile game of FF than all of their other games combined, including an mmo with millions of subscribers. |
Veks
10.29.20 | I only started playing Heyadam so im not sure of my uid. I'll see and send you a shout : ) |
heyadam
10.29.20 | @pots yeah I get it. I don’t wanna be the “weLL iN tHe WEsT...” sorta guy, but gacha games are really popular in Asia for a reason - it just fits a lot of the lifestyle. People don’t mind timegating and they def use it to scratch a gambling itch, but games like Genshin actually have the potential to be AAA quality to cater to those types of players AND maintain the gacha shit to keep making the money, all without compromising on the actual game part of it. Not saying they’ll be successful or are even riding that line well rn, but there’s potential for sure.
I’m having a good ass time on it, have put in a normal game price worth of money into it and have zero regrets, but I understand people that have no interest in that sorta thing whatsoever |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | "What's most disconcerting is how these games are much more profitable than any other business MODEL. Square Enix makes more money with a mobile game of FF than all of their other games combined, including an mmo with millions of subscribers."
Yeah exactly, it doesnt give me an optimistic outlook on the future of gaming and in a sense it's kind of our own damn fault for buying into these models |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | Having said that, like a total hypocrite I will likely give it a shot when they make the switch version, but hopefully I dont end up spending money on it |
heyadam
10.29.20 | legit as long as you don’t mind not being able to use some of the hella flashy characters, you’ll get a great spread of really good characters for free and will 100% be able to smack around all the content lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | I kinda mind a lil but ngl, it is irksome |
heyadam
10.29.20 | fasho. the feel bads can be real lol. but with line 50ish “free” pulls you get from the gacha that the game gives you early enough on, you’ll probs be able to snag at least one five star.
def can detract from the enjoyment but idk there’s enough content rn to at least get like 40-50 hours if you’re doing everything, and by the time it gets to switch there will be a lot more. they need to work on a lot of things, but it’s pretty fuckin ambitious ngl |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | i actually tried the mobile version on my ipad for about 5 minutes but i legitimately don't understand how people can stomach playing games with a fucking touch screen, it is absolutely insufferable |
heyadam
10.29.20 | with this game it would be a shitshow for sure for later content - idk how either lol. I’m on PS4. They def need to do some console bugs patching but it’s not bad for their first console run |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | back to the subject of Hyrule Warriors
As someone who grew up with the Warriors franchise it's really refreshing that working so closely with the Breath of the Wild team is kind of forcing them to finally make some changes to their formula for fucking once.
It's still a Warriors game, don't get me wrong, but they are putting so much attention into translating all these details of BotW that it has had a notable impact on the gameplay. Launching yourself into the air with combos or cryo straight into paraglider and then dropping into slow mo air attack will never get old. Limited character selection seems to have forced them into putting more detail into each character to the point they are different enough that you actually have to learn how to play as them instead of being able to just button mash your way to victory with anybody. Being able to switch characters mid battle to be closer to a different objective and also give orders to characters you aren't using is a nice touch. Everyone having different variations of the sheikah slate powers just makes their movesets feel even more massive. Can't wait to get the full game.
That being said, I'm not feeling Zelda's basic moveset yet. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | I can say with great certainty based on the demo alone that it is vastly superior to the first Hyrule Warriors game |
heyadam
10.29.20 | fuck yes. honestly it’s probably my most hype game this year. this year for sanity purposes I’ve only been able to get into campy / kinda mindless games, but this is one that fits that but also dat art and more botw story |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.29.20 | I'm honestly pretty excited for that game that isn't called gods and monsters anymore tbh and it comes out like a couple weeks after. finally some action lol |
heyadam
10.30.20 | the worst part about 2020 is this fucking NPC with Maractus in this raid rn just stealing my water super effective water moves in this battle |
Happy2review
10.30.20 | This vs. Persona 5, who wins? I really liked Persona 5 and never finished it and contemplating starting over from scratch or starting 3 houses and I know both are time sinks so both isn't really an answer at the moment. |
heyadam
10.30.20 | Persona 5 is easily the better game but 3H is a hella good time |
heyadam
10.30.20 | P5 is a much bigger time sink tho. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.30.20 | I see no more heroes 1 and 2 are on switch now never played those games are they good good |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.21 | Finally started my golden deer run last night |
PistolPete
01.05.21 | I poured 220 hours in FE3H completing all four paths and DLC and you’re telling me Persona 5 is a bigger time sink??? Yeesh... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.21 | Damn at 130 hours and I've only done one path lmao
But I did do that one path twice |
heyadam
01.06.21 | I love GD - pots u do BE and the church route?
@pete I guess if you are hella completionist it would take a lonnnnng time to beat P5, but I didn’t rush and did a lot (but not everything) in like 150 |
heyadam
01.06.21 | I should really finish my BL playthrough - I’m pretty close to finishing, I just don’t remember why I didn’t yet lol. Maybe I lost a battle and just dropped it for a while |
PistolPete
01.06.21 | @heyadam: I’m going through Dragonquest XI definitive edition for Switch right now and kind of like you I’m doing a lot but not going for 100% and it’s still taking 100 hours maybe more. Games are just long af now eh? The story on this game is great though if you’re into that style of storytelling and their weird brand. |
Keyblade
01.06.21 | never played FE but gonna try the first (western) game on GBA because why not |
Cygnatti
01.06.21 | I heard v good things about the new Hyrule Warriors game tbh. A lot of ppl were surprised at how much they liked it. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.06.21 | @adam no i did BE twice lol. first time i fucked up and didnt have high enough supports to waifu edelgard. so i saved once i got to just before the paths splitting and was planning on doing church route then loading up that save and doing BE again to marry ed but then I just ended up doing BE again to get that out of the way. I will prob start over again for my church route anyway though because I don't like the idea of wasting levels on ed and hubert just to lose them.
anyone have any suggestions for GD dancer unit? I'm a bit torn between sacrificing Ignutz the bitch and Lorenz for the role. They are both redundant and perfectly disposable, I guess Ignutz has that rally and I've discovered he's actually OK with Killing Edge (No Petra obvs, but still) where Lorenz could not possibly be any more basic as far as I've seen so far but I just don't know
@cyg Age of Calamity is good, it's a fresh take on the musou games, but it is still very much a musou game. im sure it is more novel to people who didn't grow up on musou games. |
nol
01.06.21 | "never played FE but gonna try the first (western) game on GBA because why not"
you just made the right choice, that's a fantastic one to start with. the first 10 chapters or so serve as an introduction to FE in general (since it was the introduction of the series to the west) |
heyadam
01.07.21 | My Lorenz was pretty great - honestly Marianne makes a good dancer. There’s enough pure damage if you recruit one or two characters to not necessarily need a ton of heals - you can even train byleth in faith to cover that role |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | Hey that's actually p good advice maybe I will do marianne |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | I guess leonie is also an option |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | Dancers have magic so imo the best option for a dancer is a strong healer or mage, but maybe not your single best dedicated healer. I had Annette and Flaynn as my healers as neither had Physic. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | Yeah thats the route I'd usually go but I kinda want marienne on a flying unicorn and she's really my only magic option
(I'm mostly sticking with the actual house units for each run just to get to know them. When I circle back to be to dp church route I'll just make my dream team (sans ed)) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | I read that leonnie can be virtually unhittable as a dancer |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | Oh absolutely, there are a lot of fun exploits you can do in this game when you get a good understanding of which classes do what and how the games work. Speedy sword users (+ some ppl like Leonie) can have like +100 evade, certain characters like Petra can have like 70% crit rate with killing edge, etc.
My Maddening run would not have been possible if I did not have a Dedue as a general that had shit stats BUT leveled up HP and Defense almost every time, so he just tanked hits from groups of 5+ units.
This was really the first time I've ever been able to successfully use a general, as they're usually shit characters with bad design. Genuinely astounded me watching it work so well. |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | As I am someone who plays favorites, my favorite exploit was being able to find a way so that Lysithea ended up with ~50+ HP and ~30+ Defense near the end of the game, despite only leveling up as mage characters. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | Killing edge petra is my favourite unit in the game so far
I didn't mind Hubert as a general, he had good magic but the only problem is he had abysmal movement. And I think Hilda is an amazing general |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | The one non Golden Deer unit im using this run is Hapi and I've got to say she is a god tier magic user |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | I still say Hubert and Lorenz deserve the Valkyrie class but Intelligent Systems says otherwise for some reason!! |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | I think Hapi is one of the DLC characters, all 4 of whom really good I find. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.07.21 | Yis indeed she is |
nol
01.07.21 | “This was really the first time I've ever been able to successfully use a general, as they're usually shit characters with bad design.“
This statement hurts my feelings. |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | It's true, Noler! Between mages and armorslayers/rapiers/etc. Generals tend to suck.
Frederick from Awakening is definitely an exception tho. What a man. |
CaliggyJack
01.07.21 | Petra is best girl. |
heyadam
01.07.21 | Killing edge Petra is legit unstoppable.
and yeee u ain’t lyin jack |
heyadam
01.07.21 | I need to use Hapi - she wasn’t good for me in the actual dlc run but I haven’t recruited her main game yet. Yuri is insane |
Cygnatti
01.07.21 | might do another Maddening run but handicap myself by NOT using Lysithea |
heyadam
01.07.21 | It feels wrong not to use Lysithea haha |
heyadam
01.10.21 | did anyone else who ran through the BL route find Ingrid incredibly underwhelming or was it just me? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | I'm not finding ignutz as particularly terrible as people have made him out to be. He's unremarkable, but not bad by any means |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Still likely my least fav golden deer unit so far aside from Lorenz |
heyadam
01.10.21 | bro the nutz is buttz
|
heyadam
01.10.21 | nah nutz isn’t bad - GD was my first playthrough so I just didn’t utilize him well I think. it’s hard because Claude and Lysithea are both in that house so he’s kinda unnecessary |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Yeah totally I get that. Hes redundant for me too as I'm making Lys a mortal savant and claude is claude... ig will likely end up a mortal savant too.
Honestly Hapi is by far my best unit this run. Shes honestly shading on Lysithea hard lol. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Also quite happy with leonie as a dancer pick so far but its early to say for sure |
heyadam
01.10.21 | my next playthrough I’ll def bring hapi into the fold. I also just wanna see their supports too - I’ll probably do a GD run and just recruit Petra and Hapi. Good call on Leonie for dancer actually, that makes sense too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | When I circle back to church route in gonna have my all female dream team and we are gonna pop that wap all over those who squiggle in the shade |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | A shame that you can't have edelgard and Hilda no matter wat, that's the only cockblock |
CaliggyJack
01.10.21 | Ignatz is literally my best archer on my current run. He literally hits crit shots 9/10, he just sucks durability wise. |
heyadam
01.10.21 | my goal is to make Marianne a killing machine bc the world is unfair and she needs to shed blood |
Cygnatti
01.10.21 | Marianne is honestly a killer, her defensive and speed stats are a bit low, but everything else is high. Ignatz is good, his stats are way better than the other archers I find, but again, he doesn't have the move that gives +4 range which kinda sucks. |
heyadam
01.10.21 | I like how feasible pretty much all units are - it sounds like we’ve all had varying experiences with each of the units. Shamir was an angel of death for me lol. |
Cygnatti
01.10.21 | Yeah, that's kinda what separates the old and new FE games. Since Awakening, they've tried to make sure that every unit has stats and abilities relatively comparable to the others. Unlike in older games where there are 40 playable characters and like 10+ are complete trash. |
CaliggyJack
01.10.21 | 'Cept Manuela
Literally anything that woman can do, someone else can do miles better. |
heyadam
01.10.21 | So fuckin true lmao. How’s Hanneman? I think I recruited him my first playthrough but Lysithea existed soooo |
CaliggyJack
01.10.21 | Hanneman is a beast if you stat him right. Lysithea is amazing, but Hanneman has a bit mroe durability. |
heyadam
01.10.21 | I love this game lol. Like I know maybe to some vets it makes some trade offs they don’t dig, but I mean I’m still playing on and off and not bored of it. ost slaps too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Shamir absolutely fucking wrecks. She's the only faculty i was thay interested in using. Might try Catherine out one day but the rest - meh.
Having Hapi on my team is making Lysithea look bad in comparison and a big part of it is her shit maneuverability but I just promoted her to mortal savant so hopefully that will rectify that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Honestly this is right up there with botw for best switch game imo. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Btw anyone try that new monster hunters demo? |
Uzumaki
01.10.21 | @ Potsy, dude you’ve never lived if you didn’t have Shamir and Ashe run with your team. Legit both can be holy terrors if you stat them right. |
heyadam
01.10.21 | dude I just do all the bs to get Lysithea to be able to attack people from across the map lol. v stoked to recruit Hapi tho next time. I recruited Yuri instead and he was a god too for me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | @uz ashe sucked in the dlc, ill give him another shot when I do BL but I wasn't impressed with him. I had Shamir and Bern for my BE run tho and the same could be said of that pair imo.
"just do all the bs to get Lysithea to be able to attack people from across the map"
Wat |
heyadam
01.10.21 | not actually across map but s rank skill + one of two or three relics from paralogues gives her like a +3 range lol. it’s enough to make her basically an untouchable drone strike |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | S rank in reason I presume? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | You know which paralogues offhand? |
Cygnatti
01.10.21 | Manuela isn't really great until you get the Trickster class since her focus is in swords and faith.
In maddening, a lot of characters become unusable because they're unable to keep up with the game's pace, and she was one of the relatively few that was able to relevant till the very end, I find. She has the highest speed stat of all mage characters, the same as Leonie and is relatively similar to hers in all their other tats too. |
Cygnatti
01.10.21 | "just do all the bs to get Lysithea to be able to attack people from across the map"
Yeah I talked about this already lol.
"Also having Lorenz in your party gets you a legendary staff that boosts magic attack range +2, so yeah Lysithea is broken with that thing."
[this is the paralouge for it, you can do it whenever, really, it's a bit tough tho.]
|
Cygnatti
01.10.21 | "I all my playthroughs, Lysithea has 1-shotted the Death Knight every time.
She tends to 1-shot most units from 5 spaces away, tbh."
If you turn her into a Valkyrie, you can make that up to 6 spaces away ;]
I generally prefer Dark Flier for the movement (and the better stat growths) but either or are her optimal classes, for sure. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.10.21 | Oh yeah I have that staff already lol |
heyadam
01.10.21 | yeee, you’ll be able to get it this time around running GD pots. it’s bananas how broken that is lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | Man I might just marry Leonie instead of Hilda, I know she wants to fuck my dad but he's dead now so he's not much of a threat anymore and she's really grown on me, she has Miyazaki character vibes |
nol
01.11.21 | “I know she wants to fuck my dad but he's dead now so he's not much of a threat anymore and she's really grown on me“ |
CaliggyJack
01.11.21 | Yeah I feel like Manuela wasn't designed for the regular modes.
Also Petra practicing her wedding vow and saying it to you is the most adorable fucking thing ever. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | Dude its just your run of the mill every day sexy professor inappropriate dating sim stuff |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | Like at least I'm not out here trying to marry my inner lolicon dragon who is actually my grandma sort of |
CaliggyJack
01.11.21 | "Dude its just your run of the mill every day sexy professor inappropriate dating sim stuff"
Persona 5 flashbacks |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | Or the woman who impregnated me with her mom |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | But back to the topic at hand, I just get the sense that there is more to Leonie than that she wants to fuck my dad |
nol
01.11.21 | Persona 5 was too much lol |
Cygnatti
01.11.21 | Leonie is actually pretty cool but she just really fuckin needs to shut tf up about your dad for like 2 minutes |
heyadam
01.11.21 | sorry your dad is dead but I LOVED HIM MORE THAN YOU |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | She acts like she was fuckin raised by the dude and then when you finally ask sup with that shes like "yeah I dunno he trained me for a lil but I dunno I just really want to suck his d" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.11.21 | Anyways, she's loyal |
Trebor.
01.11.21 | I'm replaying FE6 right now and goddamn this game would be so good if it didn't have so many shitty ambush spawns |
nol
01.11.21 | Bro |
nol
01.11.21 | the spawns in that game are the fucking worst |
Trebor.
01.11.21 | Like, I'm fine with ambush spawns, but not when they get to move the same turn they spawn |
nol
01.11.21 | same turn reinforcements piss me the fuck off lol. And it’s never just one or two they send all the reinforcements out at once |
nol
01.11.21 | might as well restart your game as soon as you see them half the time |
nol
01.11.21 | level design in that game in general is pretty poorly put together |
heyadam
01.12.21 | I hope they release a port of one of the more recent games before the next series installment. I’m lazy and not really into emulators so I’m hoping it just comes out on switch. Where the fuck is this series gonna go next tho? |
nol
01.12.21 | Next is definitely gonna be some form of remake imo. Honestly, I’m over ports, I want remakes. Specially since there’s aspects of those older titles that could use some updates. Such as the same turn horde reinforcements in blazing blade lol. |
nol
01.12.21 | They did a great job with FE Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, so I’m hoping they do something in suit with that. They could even keep the Echoes tag. |
heyadam
01.13.21 | what do you guys usually do with Flayn? by the time she joins your house I usually just bench her because my roster is so full |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | Turn on permadeath so you can fucking abort her from the entire game asap |
Alondite
01.13.21 | She does get the best healing spell in the game, so she's not without her uses.
"Also Petra practicing her wedding vow and saying it to you is the most adorable fucking thing ever."
Agreed. Petra is bae. Her broken speech could have gone poorly but it ends up being incredibly charming. And her art is fucking gorgeous. My Petra had like 60 speed by the end of the game, plus the Sword Evade+ Dancer skill and was basically untouchable. She just cut a swath through anything and everything in her way.
"You are in my way!" (commence massacre)
|
Cygnatti
01.13.21 | Flayn was my first dancer. She makes a great one imo. I like her, she has a bit of a slow start tho. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | She was my dancer for my second BE run and she was good but also she is the worst character |
heyadam
01.13.21 | Petra is a god. my fav unit by far
and what's the heal spell flayn gets? |
Alondite
01.13.21 | Fortify. Heals all allies within range over an area. |
heyadam
01.13.21 | "what should I do?"
No, what should you dedue |
Alondite
01.13.21 | Anyone else feel bad making Bernie fight pre-timeskip? She sounds so terrified.
Also I think the game's soundtrack is pretty damn outstanding. God-Shattering Star goes hard. The Family Jules metal cover is big, perky tits. And they have the voice actor for Claude doing vocals! And he crushes it. |
heyadam
01.13.21 | I love the ost - v underrated imo |
heyadam
01.13.21 | was octopath traveler a good time? was considering picking it up at some point |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | What do you mean whats wrong with traumatizing child soldiers
Octopath is decent. Story is vapid as fuck but it looks beautiful and I like the battle system. |
Cygnatti
01.13.21 | octopath is really great if you like traditional turn-based rpg combat, there's a lot of freedom that you can exercise in the game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | I lost interest in it eventually, not because of the generic story telling but because of how grindy it is. If you can stomach the grind you'll love it, its quite beautiful. |
conesmoke
01.13.21 | My friend told me he has a switch, I asked what games. He replied "I wouldn't have bought the same games as you"...
What an offensively assuming statement.. that guys has become such a fuckin pseud...
He was referring to his purchase of octopath. |
Alondite
01.13.21 | Gameplay-wise Octopath is very similar to Bravely Default, if you've played that. The visual style is amazing, blending SNES-style 2D pixel art with 3D geometry and modern rendering techniques.
It doesn't have a single, unified story per se, but what it does is follow 8 characters through their individual stories, which on their own are rather well-written. Just don't expend a grand, over-arching narrative. I personally really liked the storytelling, but I'm a bigger fan of simpler stories with better execution.
It can be a bit grindy, but if you're rotating your party regularly it isn't much of an issue. It really only becomes a problem when you stick with one party and then suddenly need to use another with much lower-level party members. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | I don't know about that, with maybe a couple exceptions i thought most of the individual stories were about as vapid and generic as they come, started eventually having to skip through a lot of it it was so boring. Im not sure what part of the execution is supposed to have redeemed this. And ur kind of forced to balance and rotate your party to progress which still failed to prevent a substantial enough amount of grinding between chapters to the point that it became tedious / not fun.
Perhaps I'm impatient |
Alondite
01.13.21 | The strength of the game's writing isn't really its plot. It's more a story of smaller moments and bits of dialogue. Less about what's happening and more about how the story's central character deals with it and how they're affected by it.
You're only forced to swap out to include the character whose story you're going to play. Though if you don't craft your party well you can leave gaps in your offense that can make breaking monsters difficult. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | Its a shame the dialogue lacks intrigue and each characters "moments" and their reactions / behaviour are so predictable then.
And yes you are only forced to swap out the character whose story you are going to play, but knowing how the game progresses it makes no sense to just swap out one at a time if you can avoid it. But even when efficiently balancing a couple party variations so you can minimize grind you still end up with substantial level gaps between chapters with absolutely nothing of interest to do in between but repeatedly slog through random encounters until you are high enough level to tackle the next set of stories.
Its average story telling at best and a typically monotonous style progression for rpgs of this nature, but the art direction and battle mechanics make up for it to an extent. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | Id give it like a 6-6.5/10. Style over substance to the max. |
Alondite
01.13.21 | Nah, the writing is fine. Predictable characters aren't necessarily a bad thing; can a character be good if they aren't well-defined enough to predict how they may react?
Also, your gameplay experience doesn't really mirror mine at all. I don't think I have even an hour total of grinding after a complete playthrough. Then again I prefer being under-leveled in RPGs, so that may be the difference.
I'd give it a 7/10. Most of its flaws aren't design errors as much as they are inherent flaws of RPGs and abstract mechanics. |
heyadam
01.13.21 | Hmmmm, not super into grindy games nowadays. Maybe I’ll just finally finish the last Dragon Quest game that I dropped unintentionally like a year ago lol |
nol
01.13.21 | My brother said the story in octopus that was trash, and he’s usually not a harsh critic. Staying away, even though I’m very drawn to its aesthetics. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | The writing is shit and the characters suck glad we all agree |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | None of them even want to fuck my dad |
Keyblade
01.13.21 | i bought octopath in the christmas sale, it was like 60% off, would never get a better opportunity. it looks so good visually but interesting to hear about the story isnt so great. thats like the main part of rpgs for me. it's not like i'm huge on turn based battles lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | Just take like every old-school rpg character trope and make the most predictable and derivative version of that and you have the cast of octopath. Then hire a middle school English student to write the most banal set of stories they can think of to expand on each of their singular character traits.
You have riveting highlights such as
Honest merchant
Noble thief
Dishonored knight
Oblivious scholar
Selfless medic
Ambitious orphan
Loyal hunter |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | And who could forget
Sexy exotic dancer with secret |
nol
01.13.21 | Fire Emblem: 8 Houses |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.13.21 | Honest merchant with speech impediment
Noble thief with erectile dysfunction
Dishonored knight with ptsd
Oblivious scholar who falls in love with underage student
Selfless medic with narcolepsy
Ambitious orphan who wants to unite the world and was experimented on as a baby
Loyal hunter who wants to fuck your dad
Sexy exotic dancer with TWO SECRET who has trouble with men and likes the opera and a nice kleenex
Fire Emblem: Octopath Child Soldier
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Alondite
01.14.21 | Pots, literally every character in storytelling history could be boiled down to a basic archetype when you're intentionally trying to prove that they're bad characters. Octopath takes those specific archetypes and challenges the validity of their thinking.
For example, the "Selfless Medic," being selfless, saves a man who another medic refused to save...only to find out that the man is a murderer who continues on with his murdering ways once saved. Sure, it's nothing groundbreaking, but it's perfectly fine.
Let's just agree to disagree.
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heyadam
01.14.21 | agree to agree rhea thicc af |
Alondite
01.14.21 | Those hips tho |
Cygnatti
01.14.21 | Rhea thicc af [2]
Fire emblem fans that just go "Rhea is so evil!" Are small brained people! |
Cygnatti
01.14.21 | Same goes for them that do the same with edelgard. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.14.21 | @alondite and on the other hand you can dismiss any criticism about characterization by just stating that "it doesn't have to be deep to be good" or "but everything can be wittled down to archetypes" or whatever I guess? If I'm ~intentionally~ (duh) "trying to prove" (arguing) that they are bad characters (I'm guessing what you meant by this is that I'm trying too hard to see faults in them?), then you are, by equal measure ~intentionally~ overlooking them.
I think its pretty obvious that I'm not saying anything that can be dissected into tropes and archetypes (everything) is bad characterization. Im merely saying in this instance, I think it is done very one dimensionally, and you'll find it's a recurring sentiment in a lot of reviews of the game. So sure, we can agree to disagree, but don't try to tell me I'm being too nit picky, reductive, or unreasonably hyper-critical to have my opinion cuz that is complete horse poopoo and I do not accept it as an argument |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.14.21 | I mean you can make a sound argument for both Ed and Rhea being evil. You can pretty much make a sound argument for every path being good or evil sans like maybe Golden Deer, which seems pretty all around positive to me so far lol.
Also Rhea is only thicc in the opening cutscene, she a dumpy mess in her church garb |
Alondite
01.14.21 | I acknowledged that the game's narrative is nothing special, but it's perfectly serviceable and does have some legitimately good moments. It's use of language is probably the best part of its writing; how things are said, rather than what is said.
Those are the storytelling elements I value most. I'm not one for grand or high-concept stories or wild twists because they almost always end up becoming ridiculous. For example, I was legitimately laughing by the end of Bioshock Infinite because its narrative was so asinine.
I guess it doesn't really bother me because a game's composed narrative is at the bottom of my list of what I care about in video games because they often do little more than obstruct the gameplay experience and undermine player agency. And they're almost always written as film-style narratives, which isn't a good storytelling modality in a medium defined by interaction. |
heyadam
01.14.21 | def wifing hilda next playthrough |
heyadam
02.17.21 | that octopath tactics announcement was dope! looks really cool |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.17.21 | wow this thread is so big
i did a golden deer and a blue lions run recently and boy was i shocked to discover that blue lions is actually by far the best story. but i mean i will never forget the dubstep finale of golden deer... |
heyadam
02.17.21 | BWUB BWUB BWUB
def threw me off. I still need to finish BL - I’m like three or so missions away |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.17.21 | my mind was utterly boggled by how much crucial information to the gravity of the plot is omitted from the Black Eagles campaign even though it directly concerns the same characters. also all the units in BL just have so much extra connective tissue. it just really shows how much extra time they put into that story. |
heyadam
02.17.21 | yeah a lot of the world ties happened to BL characters
, like Ashe and Sylvain’s story. My main story wish is that they gave more to Claude. Like they were building up a lot of mystery with him and then it just fizzled |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | I'll always be particularly attached to the Golden Deer story. I hated the Black Eagles story because it's central character was the most unsympathetic person on Earth. It's like they didn't even try to make you consider joining her side other than her being cute and exclusive to that side. But other than that I hated her and everything about her. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i mean aside from being a victim of extreme child abuse and neglectful guardianship and not being a huge fan of religious zealotry |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | You can have that but that doesn't excuse her being a warmongering totalitarian maniac. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | idk man like at first it seemed pretty fashy, but edelgard was compelling and her “cause” made sense from her being experimenting on by
family and shit and deeply distrusting the church. She def was a lil aggressive about it tho lol |
Cygnatti
02.18.21 | I pretty sure BL is the closest to what the original storyline for this game was supposed to be, yeah. |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "a little aggressive"
She plunged the entire continent into a world war because her personal life sucked. There were a billion ways she could have gone about it other than what she actually did. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | and I think the whole point is she *would’ve* went down a totalitarian route if it weren’t for her relationship and respect for Byleth, and that Rhea ended up turning into what Edelgard could have been
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i wouldn't exactly say dimitri or rhea weren't cold blooded killers either |
Cygnatti
02.18.21 | I mean, the way she saw it, everyone's lives were suffering because of the Church. If that isn't a cause to risk everything for, then what is? |
heyadam
02.18.21 | Also she didn’t plunge the continent into war, it was natural conclusion to what Those That Jacked Off in the Dark were doing |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Rhea was already like that before Edelgard. And I don't support what she did either.
Both women seemed incredibly unhinged and unworthy of being leaders. I mean, was she Hitler? No. But plunging the world into war because you got a grudge against a religion seems ridiculous.
"Also she didn’t plunge the continent into war, it was natural conclusion to what Those That Jacked Off in the Dark were doing"
Which makes it even worse because it means she didn't have the foresight to realize she was being used. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | bruh she was a victim of relentless child torture - usually a side effect of that isn’t foresight lmao. It was all tied to the church and to the real evil because of the crest experiments. It doesn’t make her right, but it should at least make her a character that you can empathize |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | yeah what heyadam said
"She plunged the entire continent into a world war because her personal life sucked."
pretty sure like a huge component of her motivations was that the rule of the church had historically caused so much war and opression and that she wanted to go to war to end that once and for all? it's easy to look at her war and neglect all the fucked up shit the church has done to maintain its iron fist
its not as if dimitri's angle of saying "fuck it i'll just go on a bloodthirsty rampage and put everyone ive ever known and loved in jeopardy and i dont care if they live or die" was much better
all of the paths except claude were pretty morally grey imo
claude was a stand up bro tho |
Cygnatti
02.18.21 | Yes, Rhea was already subjecting an entire continent to her will and no one should do anything about it. But at least, she didn't cause a world war over it!! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "But plunging the world into war because you got a grudge against a religion seems ridiculous."
as if the story was this simple |
heyadam
02.18.21 | yeee we talked about it before but Claude was by far the most moral lol. I just think hating edelgard for that reason is hook and sinker what the delusional part of dimitri was all about |
Cygnatti
02.18.21 | I like Claude for a lot of reasons, but I definitely think he's the least interesting main character. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | deffs |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | IDK man. Sending thousands of men and women to their deaths in a war makes her pretty unsympathetic imho. I get she went through shit and that sucks, but what she did during the game was genocide under the guise of war.
She knew damn well that a huge swathe of the population had the potential to die if their crests were removed or broken, and she still did it anyways.
Also, once again I am not taking Rhea's side here either. She was pretty unsympathetic as well.
And for the record, Dimitri was a pretty hard psychopath but I still could see reasons to side with him in the war. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | yeah I wish they gave him a little more in the later half of the game to build up the mystery behind his interests — I like how they made him the clearheaded middle ground tho |
heyadam
02.18.21 | “ She knew damn well that a huge swathe of the population had the potential to die if their crests were removed or broken, and she still did it anyways.”
I mean yeah, I’m not saying she’s perfect, but also like a huge swathe of the population that didn’t have crests were oppressed and treated horribly too? Which was her actual overall ambition to stop once she got over her blind hatred (which she did) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | The church was literally executing people who weren't down with their fucked up crest caste system since the beginning of the game |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Yeah they definitely based the sides off of how players wanted to have their character be.
Do you wanna be the straight-laced good guy Shonen protagonist?? Golden Deer
Do you wanna be a character who explores the grey areas of morality and war? Blue Lions
Do you wanna be a character who is a misguided follower of what is essentially a villain? Black Eagles
Do you have mommy issues? The church. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i think at least we can all agree that it was a bit of a wtf moment when iluvatur came in here saying that ed was purely good and was the sole completely moral character |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | you do realize that ed never followed nor was used by those who jerk off at night time during her war arch right? she was using them, and hated them the whole time, and went on to fight them post game.. she rejected their ideals the entire time and was extremely vocal about the fact that they were just serving a purpose for her and that she was gonna fuck them up as soon as that purpose was exhausted |
heyadam
02.18.21 | yeah like I get not agreeing with edelgard kicking the war off or her motivations at the start, but that shit was inevitable. If the status quo stayed the same, the church would have kept the crest oppression going and the evil behind the scenes wouldn’t have been uprooted. Also Those That Slither legit were making hella plays outside of edelgard that would have sent everyone to war anyways |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "I mean yeah, I’m not saying she’s perfect, but also like a huge swathe of the population that didn’t have crests were oppressed and treated horribly too? Which was her actual overall ambition to stop once she got over her blind hatred (which she did)"
But she was still going to commit potential genocide. People being oppressed is no excuse to take that course of action.
"The church was literally executing people who weren't down with their fucked up crest caste system since the beginning of the game"
Yes. And the church was wrong and needed substantial change, but the way Edelgard went about it was unjustifiable imho. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | lmaoooo I forgot about that |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "i think at least we can all agree that it was a bit of a wtf moment when iluvatur came in here saying that ed was purely good and was the sole completely moral character"
Doing their bidding while saying you're using them seems... off to me.
"yeah like I get not agreeing with edelgard kicking the war off or her motivations at the start, but that shit was inevitable. If the status quo stayed the same, the church would have kept the crest oppression going and the evil behind the scenes wouldn’t have been uprooted. Also Those That Slither legit were making hella plays outside of edelgard that would have sent everyone to war anyways"
But I'm not talking about whether the situation was inevitable or not. Whether it was destiny is still not a justification for her actions. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "And the church was wrong and needed substantial change, but the way Edelgard went about it was unjustifiable imho."
i'm just curious how you think these kinds of drastic upheavals have been gone about historically |
heyadam
02.18.21 | I was gonna say, what else could she have done? Also it’s not like she was just slaughtering innocents, she was fighting church armies |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "Doing their bidding while saying you're using them seems... off to me."
i don't recall edelgard ever being a part of any of their most nefarious plots or doing anything she didn't want to do, in fact i exclusively remember her showing up to admonish them and call them snakes whenever they went off on their own to do something fucked and to tell them they'd pay for it |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "i'm just curious how you think these kinds of drastic upheavals have been gone about historically"
If Edelgard had focused on reforming her countries system; banning discrimination, making crest experimentation on people illegal, and practicing freedom of religion under the confines of the law. The people in other countries would have seen her Empire's prosperity and worked to replicate it. That's what happened with America. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | it always seemed to me that them that masturbated in the gutters thought they had ed under their thumb much more than they actually did and that she was very calculating in how she dealt with them to serve her own purposes even though she was totally at their will before becoming empress |
heyadam
02.18.21 | America doesn’t have any oppression problems anymore : ( |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "That's what happened with America."
l
o
l |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | I'm not saying America's system is perfect, but it became a blueprint for other countries to replicate who ended up doing it far better than us. It's a snowball effect. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | I think that’s just idealized calligy, the church had WAY too much power for that to ever happen. They literally killed people that didn’t believe in the exact way they did things, even within the church itself |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "If Edelgard had focused on reforming her countries system; banning discrimination, making crest experimentation on people illegal, and practicing freedom of religion under the confines of the law. The people in other countries would have seen her Empire's prosperity and worked to replicate it. "
if ed did this the church would have invaded them and executed their leaders immediately lmao
plus her very own nation was super deeply corrupt and into crest experimentation.. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | americans and their hands off approach, always leading by example instead of invading other nations and forcing their will upon them to leverage their resources |
Colton
02.18.21 | they added another fucking Fire Emblem character to Smash smh |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i mean they might as well be |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "if ed did this the church would have invaded them and executed their leaders lmao"
Invaded yes, but Edelgard would have definitely been justified in a defensive war. Not only that, but Claude and his forces would have most likely joined her in the war against the Church, which would have helped her considerably. There's no way the Church would win an offensive against the Empire without her forces being drained and her having no support from the other kingdoms.
"plus her very own nation was super deeply corrupt and into crest experimentation.."
If it were that level of corruption, Ed would have never been able to mount a large scale war against the Church because those who benefitted from the existence of crests would have used said corruption to have her overthrown or something to that effect. |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "they added another fucking Fire Emblem character to Smash smh"
Xenoblade Chronicles not FE |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Why do you think the church would have no support from the kingdom and why on earth would you think claude would help ed? How do you think the church maintained control for so long exactly?
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "
If it were that level of corruption, Ed would have never been able to mount a large scale war against the Church because those who benefitted from the existence of crests would have used said corruption to have her overthrown or something to that effect."
...the people doing crest experiments in her kingdom had nemesis on ice in an underground sci fi battle bunker with nukes that everyone else was still so outdated by that they thought they were flying javelins of light. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | I'm starting to get the sense that you weren't paying very close attention to the story at all caliggy lmao |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Claude would absolutely view the Churches war as bad for Fodlan, and he would most likely worry that, were they to defeat the Empire, the Church would most likely come for his kingdom next. Not only would Ed be in the clear to fight the Church, but now the Church would become Claude's enemy number 1. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Claude has done absolutely nothing but demonstrate a desire for neutrality until given no further other option |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Why would the church come for his kingdom next when they were cooperating? That makes no fucking sense at all. Ed would have come for his nation tho! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Claude even does side with the church remnants in the story ffs lmao |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "Claude has done absolutely nothing but demonstrate a desire for neutrality until given no further other option"
I think he would absolutely view it as no other option. He knew full well the Churches issues and was willing to let it go as long as his country remained neutral, but the Church attempting to overthrow the Empire is a power grab that would shake even his neutrality.
"Why would the church come for his kingdom next when they were cooperating? That makes no fucking sense at all. Ed would have come for his nation tho!"
She would have no reason to, because she would already be fighting her war with the church, who was her target from the beginning.
"Claude even does side with the church remnants in the story ffs lmao"
Defensive wars are always justified imho. When you are attacked, you are justified in your defense. The Church was bad, but the Empire was an even more dangerous foe when this happened. He had to weigh who was worse in this situation for his kingdom, and the Empire was far worse. |
nol
02.18.21 | "they added another fucking Fire Emblem character to Smash smh" [2]
i blame you fuckers |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Masahiro looooooooooves swords
also, again, not an FE char |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | I like how you are at this point arguing that characters would take the opposite actions of the ones that they literally actually did for a fact take in the story |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "She would have no reason to, because she would already be fighting her war with the church, who was her target from the beginning."
Well she literally fucking did m8
". He had to weigh who was worse in this situation for his kingdom, and the Empire was far worse."
You literally just said that ed wouldn't go after him |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | I can't even with this argument anymore it gets more and more preposterous by the second. Did you even play the game lmao |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Well the original topic ended up segueing so IDK
Everything I said is pure speculation but I do think if things went about that way, Claude would do the right thing.
In the end all I was saying was that I don't like Edelgard personally and I can't side with her on any of her issues, even if I understand that she went through some shit. I can't support her actions.
I suppose that's just my anti-war self acting up again. |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "You literally just said that ed wouldn't go after him"
She wouldn't go after him in a defensive war. The other quote was about how the actual game unfolded. |
nol
02.18.21 | I bet you guys watch hentai |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "I bet you guys watch hentai"
Only with dick girls in it. I have standards. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | I think every single thing you've said is wrong and mind bogglingly illogical after having played the 3 main routes and more than half of the fourth and I'm going to leave it at that |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "I think every single thing you've said is wrong and mind bogglingly illogical after having played the 3 main routes and more than half of the fourth and I'm going to leave it at that"
Understandable, we didn't get anywhere, but I had a fun discussion. I think we can all agree that it's just a fantastic game
andthatFlaynisliteraladorableperfectionthatshouldbeprotectedatallcosts |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Also the idea that the right thing for claude to do would be to side with edelgard after you just bashed her this entire time is WTF. Whether the church or the empire starts the war is sooooo arbitrary. Either way there is a war and a conflict and both sides are morally grey, and just changing that one detail doesn't change all the other details about the respective characters! Wtf |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | LOL FLAYN IS LITERALLY TIED FOR MY LEAST FAVOURITE CHARACTER ok thats the cap off we can never talk about three houses again |
Colton
02.18.21 | if you jerk off to hentai that was drawn by a dude are you basically getting a digital gay handjob |
nol
02.18.21 | I slaughtered flayn |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Proud of you |
nol
02.18.21 | >me, hunting weebs
>am a weeb
this won’t end well |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "LOL FLAYN IS LITERALLY TIED FOR MY LEAST FAVOURITE CHARACTER ok thats the cap off we can never talk about three houses again"
BAHAHAHAHA!
"if you jerk off to hentai that was drawn by a dude are you basically getting a digital gay handjob"
Hmm... I'd say no because the drawer's hand isn't touching your penis.
"I slaughtered flayn"
:( |
nol
02.18.21 | this game has too much dialogue |
nol
02.18.21 | I’m way too OCD to skip anything |
Colton
02.18.21 | yeah but you're basically nutting to a guy's artistic ability isn't that slightly gay
not that there's anything wrong with that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Yeah I started skipping through like 80% of the support dialogues between units i didn't like after my first run
Like no I'm not going to sit through Annette and ashes story arch about being afraid of spooky ghosts and no I am not sitting through ignutz story arch of coming out of the closet as an artist |
heyadam
02.18.21 | lmaooooo this was a beautiful dumpster fire. I’d say protect Petra at all costs but she def does that herself by just existing |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | And yes I am going to sit through every second of leonnie detailing how badly she wants to fuck my dad |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "yeah but you're basically nutting to a guy's artistic ability isn't that slightly gay
not that there's anything wrong with that"
True but the voice acting of the girls is done by women.
So is it a three way?
"Like no I'm not going to sit through Annette and ashes story arch about being afraid of spooky ghosts and no I am not sitting through ignutz story arch of coming out of the closet as an artist"
I hated that whole ghost shit. I really did. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | the best were the dedue supports that were just “...” back and forth like six times |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | I liked the dialogue between Petra and Claude.
They had a lot of chemistry. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Yes and then they climaxed with him being like "I enjoy flowers" "..." "..." |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Might have to make a three houses character tier list tbh |
heyadam
02.18.21 | I’d dedie for dedue tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Same hes iconic |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | "Might have to make three houses character tier list tbh"
Who'd be your top three? |
heyadam
02.18.21 | bruh we all should so that we can talk about the same things for another 600 comments and get this thread to 2k |
Colton
02.18.21 | best character is Chrom |
heyadam
02.18.21 | his hair is so stupid but so awesome somehow |
nol
02.18.21 | yeah I’m definitely blaming you fuckers for pyra |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | Fuck I want to do that but Im about to sleep |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i'm fucking doing it |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | When I wake up in like 3-4 hours I'll do it too |
nol
02.18.21 | we used to like characters back in the day for simple reasons. Joshua is cool cuz his skill is absurd and he’s got a cool ass hat; Oswin’s a playa because he will never take any damage ever. Soren is amazing because his magic has a growth rate of like 90%, and has an existential nihilism Hubert could only dream of replicating.
Now it’s all this teenage romance bullshit that makes me feel like I’m playing the medieval sims |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | a pity that you must actively partake in this game and yet feel so deeply ashamed about it |
nol
02.18.21 | what is “shame?” |
Cygnatti
02.18.21 | "If Edelgard had focused on reforming her countries system; banning discrimination, making crest experimentation on people illegal, and practicing freedom of religion under the confines of the law. The people in other countries would have seen her Empire's prosperity and worked to replicate it. "
'if ed did this the church would have invaded them and executed their leaders immediately lmao'
^this, like you're a fool if you think the Edelgard could do that without the Church forcing their way into it as well. Conflict between the Church and one or more of the other nations was inevitable. It didn't have to be Edelgard, but it was going to be someone. |
nol
02.18.21 | 5 points to Gryffindor |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i just watched the new fire emblem ssb character trailer and honestly they look fun at least |
nol
02.18.21 | I’m over it, new characters are always kinda hype. Really tapping into that Camilla/Manuela character archetype though. |
nol
02.18.21 | Always thought a Fire Emblem 2: The Xenoblade character had a decent shot anyway |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | it's kind of nice to have the two characters in one gimmick back in someone who isn't pokemon trainer now that shiek and zelda have been (deservedly) separated for so long. i'm interested to use it in a pairing that synchs up better like this seems to. |
nol
02.18.21 | I’d be unsurprised if this is the character that gets you into smash |
nol
02.18.21 | double moveset mechanic looks admittedly cool
I’m glad it’s not a comeback mechanic |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i don't think anything will get me back into smash the way i used to be tbqh but i still have a v good time getting drunk and playing it couch coop with the homies on the odd occassion.
I did finally cave and get the latest season pass after sephiroth was released cuz that was hype and i enjoy both him and minecraft guy. i dont like stretchy arms much tho. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | "I’m glad it’s not a comeback mechanic"
if it was a comeback mechanic right after introducing seph with a comeback mech that would have been lame af |
nol
02.18.21 | If it was an anime swordie right after announcing Sephiroth that would be lame af |
nol
02.18.21 | oh wait |
nol
02.18.21 | it’s two anime swordies I guess that works |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | lol
tbf seph is at least a pretty damn unique swordfighter so it feels slightly less jarring than say if they released her right after hero |
nol
02.18.21 | at the end of the day they’re all unique except the salad of blue haired fire emblem characters |
nol
02.18.21 | the less blue the fire emblem character’s hair is, the more unique their moveset is |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Lmao almost universally true |
nol
02.18.21 | sigh... you win today, weebs |
nol
02.18.21 | I bet it’ll be like Byleth where I hate the reveal, but the moveset ends up being hype |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | i still find byleth awkward tbh, not a huge fan |
nol
02.18.21 | I like that she completed all the major weapon types from FE |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | yeah i like the concept of her but she too slow n clunky for me |
nol
02.18.21 | lotta power tho. just gotta time it right. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Totes. Just not my playstyle |
CaliggyJack
02.18.21 | I still main Piranha Plant and Richter Belmont tbqh and that hasn't changed. |
nol
02.18.21 | play me tonight jackson |
nol
02.18.21 | #DuckinJackson |
heyadam
02.18.21 | https://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=195327
Pots’ sin of acting without the blessing of the mother thread is noted, but will not be punished this day. Go and yell at him for no putting Ingrid in dogshit tier |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | I thought Ingrid was dog shit, and tbh pre time skip she is definitely a basic ass horse girl (tho not without her charms), but post timeskip Ingrid is a precious pearl to be cherished forever. I fell for her on my blue lions run. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | Also i've been sticking to in-house marriages for my primary 3 runs and Ingrid was literally the ONLY viable option for BL. |
heyadam
02.18.21 | I just get defensive for my fellow brown boi dedue, and I will hurt anyone that hurts him |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.18.21 | bruh ingrid and dedue become the best of friends |
heyadam
02.19.21 | I haven’t gotten their A support yet but rn their relationship is dedue being like “yo Ingrid is it cool if I die 4 u on the battlefield if it comes to that?” and Ingrid is like “ugh ok I guess so” |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.19.21 | yea eventually she goes as far as to say "dedue i would be HONOURED if you would die on the battlefield for me" |
heyadam
02.19.21 | lmao damn u right, Ingrid at least A tier |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.19.21 | Hahaha |
heyadam
04.18.21 | finally gonna finish my BL run either tonight or tomorrow lol |
heyadam
05.04.21 | oops
https://imgur.com/gallery/G7ty1Gr |
Uzumaki
05.04.21 | You monster..... |
heyadam
05.05.21 | I didn’t want it to happen :( I got wrecked that map - was rushing a bit before work, so I’ll have to try it again after lol |
nol
05.05.21 | so you reset the game right |
nol
05.05.21 | The only character I let die in my playthrough was caspar and he got merced by Sothis |
heyadam
05.05.21 | absolutely reset haha. Byleth got bodied right after anyways. And yeah dude the only character I let die was Ignutz during my first run bc it was literally the last move of the final boss map in GD and that shit took forever as a noob |
nol
05.05.21 | it’s like, maybe I’m an FE elitist, but it breaks my heart when I let those poor souls perish hahaha. But this game is brutal cuz you have to kill half ur classmates anyway |
nol
05.05.21 | “bc it was literally the last move of the final boss map”
same except BE secret route, and I had spent like a full month trying to beat that map so RIP caspar |
heyadam
05.05.21 | yeah the first time a everyone clashed at gronder field again and I had to off Bernie was brutal lmao.
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heyadam
05.05.21 | I’m gonna make ignutz a god in my next GD run to atone for my sins |
Uzumaki
05.05.21 | You don’t necessarily have to kill half the classmates; just use all that xp/cp/whatever you have saved up from your previous playthroughs to up your skills in the combat arts. Leveled sufficiently, you can recruit practically everyone, and then they just wither away on your roster because you already are using the units you want to anyways... |
heyadam
08.08.21 | Just started playing Awakening for the first time last night. The 3DS 3d effect makes my eyes bleed but it also looks pretty cool lol. |
Cygnatti
08.08.21 | will prob play this again when Unite hype dies down |
heyadam
08.08.21 | I fired up 3H on a whim and am still on one of the final BL maps and I got wrecked after like 30mins cause I haven't played in a while -- eventually I'll beat that final playthrough
also, unite? |
CaliggyJack
08.08.21 | Just did my first playthrough of the Crimson Flower route and it will absolutely be my last.
I hate Edelgard and her route so much. Give me Claude back I wanna go home |
heyadam
08.08.21 | oh the pokemon moba, nvm! how is it?
And caliggy Edel's route has some of the best nuance in the game lmao
claude rules tho agr33d |
CaliggyJack
08.08.21 | Meh. I've already debated in this thread why I don't like Edelgard and will never support her ideals ever. The whole time I've been playing through this route I felt filthy. I don't like it and I don't like Edelgard's way of doing things. I guess it's a personal thing, but I will never understand or want to understand that way of thinking. |
Cygnatti
08.08.21 | I like her
Unite is lit but only if you have a bunch of friends to play it with |
heyadam
08.08.21 | Haha I remember that convo.
I think her route does a great job (esp the last handful of missions and couple supports) at showing that she's actually being thoughtful about things and is in a fairly tough position. Not that everything is justified, but that it's not as easy as being like "Edelgard mean heartless mass murderer" |
heyadam
08.08.21 | I literally only play Genshin and Destiny 2 rn and I hate myself but it's all I have time for lol. Stoked to be starting Awakening though as a distraction from the grind |
CaliggyJack
08.08.21 | I mean I didn't say that, but I don't think the ends justify the means, at all. To me it isn't a tough position at all, just... don't invade other countries. Not hard.
If she wants to reform the system she can do so in her own damn country. If the Church suddenly decided to invade the Empire cause of that I would support her full on.
I'm a fairly Black and White thinker. All aggression is bad and the only "good" side in the war is the side fighting in self-defense. The way she operates reminds me too much of American foreign policy for me to support her. |
heyadam
08.08.21 | haha I just reread that entire convo to be caught up on your position, we don't have to revisit it lmao.
I am stoked though to come back full circle to do another GD run after experiencing all the other story lines. |
CaliggyJack
08.08.21 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
heyadam
08.08.21 | I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure the riffraff of Fodlan fears Ignutz |
heyadam
11.12.21 | SMT V time baybeeee |
Uzumaki
01.19.22 | So, it’s rumored that there could be a new Fire Emblem dropping this year??? |
heyadam
01.19.22 | Ahhh!! That would be awesome. I hope that’s true |
Uzumaki
01.19.22 | I. Would. Love it. |
heyadam
09.13.22 | New mainline game in January lesgooooo |
PotsyTater
09.13.22 | Heck affirmative |
heyadam
09.13.22 | more hype for this than botw2 tbh
mc's design is ridiculous |
PotsyTater
09.13.22 | I wouldn’t go that far personally but it is definitely great news |
PotsyTater
09.13.22 | Ngl I hate the main character design |
ArsMoriendi
09.13.22 | Not interested in 3 Hopes because the gameplay style isn't appealing, but I did finally finished the Blue Lions Route last week for Houses
Still haven't done Silver Snow BUT
Golden Deer > Blue Lions > Black Eagles (siding with Edolf) |
ArsMoriendi
09.13.22 | BotW 2 looks great yeah |
heyadam
09.13.22 | I will go that far lol. Idk I'm worried about Botw2 but still stoked.
Yeah mc's design is silly but so was Byleth's. Gameplay looks like they took the good shit from 3H and it looks smooth af |
heyadam
09.13.22 | legit tryna finish my BL run too this week after the hype of this announcement. I was mad stuck |
ArsMoriendi
09.13.22 | As for Fire Emblem Engage's trailer: I hate how the protagonist mega evolves into Marth, but if it has good gay S supports I'll buy it |
heyadam
09.13.22 | haha it looks more like he summons his spirit to fight next to him -- okay as a new combat gimmick. I wonder if they'll have passives on each character like the crest system in 3H. |
PotsyTater
09.13.22 | I’m not worried about tears of the kingdom of the breath of the Wild at all. Looks like breath of the Wild with sky loft mechanics and verticality. I’m thrilled.
I actually really liked byleths design. It’s gonna be hard to top three houses conceptually for me. Looks like battles will be on par but I just loved the school simulator shit and the time skip and all that so much. Not sure how I feel about the Simmons thing yet. |
heyadam
09.13.22 | Yeah I really did love all the school shit -- it looks like there's at least some sort of central social hub, and since that was such a main factor to 3H I'm fairly hopeful we'll get a similar experience |
heyadam
09.13.22 | And yeah my only "worry" about botw2 was more of a personal hype worry. Legit was sooooo high off of the announcement way back when, but now the hype isn't as there. I'm sure I'll be more stoked the closer we get to launch |
Trebor.
09.13.22 | New FE story/character/dialogue seems awful but that's true of most of these games
Also it would be weird to summon Marth cuz his stats suck ass in his own game |
heyadam
09.13.22 | Marth is on permanent diversion duty.
Here's to hoping I can summon Ignutz |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | Lmao |
heyadam
09.14.22 | finally beat the BL mission I was stuck on tonight. basically had to spend like six rounds just bringing everyone together from their different starting positions. I wish my Annette had better movement : ( she’s painfully slow, even on a horse |
Uzumaki
09.14.22 | I'll finally have the drive to finish 3H now that they announced a new mainline. Not terribly sold on the summons, and I know I'm gonna hate it if the summons are OP. Still looking forward to playing it tho.
BOTW: Tears of the Kingdom I fucking cannot wait. |
heyadam
09.14.22 | Haha that's exactly where I'm at -- I think I have two more maps left in my last playthrough? Going to try and knock those out after work tonight.
Super interested to see the final confirmation from darkboi Dimitiri's pov |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | Oh hey, a three-year-old thread of this game has resurfaced literal days after I just purchased this game, rad. Feel free to throw ya boy tips and pointers for success. I am already in love with the game! |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | Get really familiar with the mechanics of the school time. I’d recommend reading a bit about how to best spend your limited time as it is crucial. |
heyadam
09.14.22 | Yeah use school time wisely - def don't overuse Byleth or whichever house leader you choose (they level quicker and are auto leveled to certain points based on story), and don't be afraid to recruit students when you're able to but also don't stress over the decision
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heyadam
09.14.22 | and don't read this thread bc it's full of spoilers lmao |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | Thanks! I've been exploring as much of the school as I can with each free day, doing a lot of talking to students, etc. trying to play the game to its fullest |
heyadam
09.14.22 | that's the best way tbh. you definitely come to care for a lot of the characters and that just makes the game better down the line |
Slex
09.14.22 | TH is legit a top 5 all time Nintendo game, bring on the new one |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | what's the major difference between this and three hopes? |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | Agreed |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | What house did you choose pj |
necropig
09.14.22 | Three houses consumed me on release, such a great game |
Slex
09.14.22 | Three Hopes is a fighting/action game like Dynasty Warriors, whereas TH is classic turn-based JRPG
Haven't played Three Hopes but heard it is surprisingly great |
heyadam
09.14.22 | yeah, I legit could not stop playing this game on release. I'm still coming back to it now and after I beat this final playthrough I'm going to go back full circle and do another Golden Deer run. |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | I tried persona strikers and was disappointed with how much they tried to emulate the actual persona game instead of just being a persona based hack and slash like all the other musou spin offs. Does three hopes try too hard to be three houses or does it lavish in the knowledge that it is, in fact, a fire emblem themed dynasty warriors game, and that that’s what we are here for? |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | @Potsy i picked Adrestia or whatever its called. The one with Edelgard.
@Slex Three Hopes does sound pretty cool based on that but i'm definitely happy i got this one first in that case. |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | @pj that route splits in two later on. You are offered to side between two characters and I strongly suggest siding with edelgard. It’s the shortest of the 4 stories so it’s the perfect one to start with. You’ll get a handle on everything and it will make your ng+ with one of the longer stories a lot more manageable and you’ll know exactly what to do with your school time etc |
heyadam
09.14.22 | and any time with Hubert is time well spent |
heyadam
09.14.22 | @potsy yeah the P5strikers story was cool and I loved being with the characters again, but I couldn't get into the combat. Put off playing Three Hopes for that same reason. |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | Oooo interesting. Some story foreshadowing to pique my curiosity too. I'll keep that in mind! |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | Word: I’d be on the other side of that fence. I grew up with dynasty warriors games and I love the idea of mash ups with other beloved franchises, but I don’t like when they try too hard to emulate the source material. I felt the breath of the Wild one suffered from that in certain ways and the the persona 5 one it was like “why am I not just killing stuff right now”
If three hopes is more of a standard dynasty warriors game I’d probably like it |
heyadam
09.14.22 | yeah doubling-down on going with Edel first. I'm not sure how you like NG+ in most games pj (I don't really replay many games myself), but NG+ rules for this game and each route is definitely unique after a certain point. |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | i actually can't believe how bad this game looks. the textures are legit worse than some n64 games and the characters are all your typical uninspired anime shit |
pjquinones747
09.14.22 | I'm not big in NG+ usually although a couple have done the trick for me recently. This particular game i'll try NG+ for the new paths for sure though. And my best friend who loves TH told me Edelgard is best too so i guess thats a consensus lol |
Slex
09.14.22 | In regards to Three Hopes, I do believe it is a direct sequel to TH, which is why I wanna play it lol, all I heard is that it's very story heavy and better than people were expecting |
Slex
09.14.22 | #EdelgardDidNothingWrong |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | I think I’m gonna get it
Also lol remember when Hanson came back and got super riled up defending ed ? |
heyadam
09.14.22 | Claude supremacy in this house |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | @pj this ng+ is essential, you have to play at least the 3 main stories, and you’ll want to. The fourth story I didn’t finish tbh. |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | dynasty warrior games are fun, i could see playing it.
anyone else think the new zelda game title is kind of lame? also it releases at the end of 2023 looooool. why even show anything on it? that's fucking ages out |
heyadam
09.14.22 | @Slex I think it's an alt universe story
bro Caliggy dying multiple times on the other hill will always be legendary |
heyadam
09.14.22 | May isn't super far out Gyro lol |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | i thought the release date said december of 2023 oops |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | @gyro it should be Loft of the Wild |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | God so many memories of this thread. Remember when caliggy was simpin for flayn ? |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | they should have named it breath of the wild 3 and just skipped 2 entirely. that would have been a boss move |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | Skyward Breath of the Wild-Sword |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | there we go. that's a title |
Slex
09.14.22 | I remember when Skele showed up to make things creepy af for a minute lol |
heyadam
09.14.22 | lowkey about to reread a lot of this thread later when shit inevitably slows down at werk. and pots just ruthlessly dunking on Mercedes when someone brought up simping for her lol |
ArsMoriendi
09.14.22 | tbh after playing Blue Lions: Mercedes is actually a pretty good character
Only thing wrong with her is her helium voice |
heyadam
09.14.22 | 100 lol
Also has anyone ever successfully made Seteth a good unit? I'm starting to think it's impossible |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | You’ll have to dig up the spin off three houses tier lists too heyadam 😂
Also good news! I have a friend who is going to get whichever version of Pokémon I don’t get so this time around I won’t have to pester you to trade me everything 😂 |
heyadam
09.14.22 | bro that was a good ass time tho. I'm picking up Violet for sure and will complete that dex. I have a two month timer until FE: Engage comes out to do that
I'll post the heretical list you made again when I find it lmao |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | I think I’m gonna get violet too. I like the legendary better but I like the scarlet professor better so it could have gone either way until they released the night Pokémon exclusives and sword guy was just vastly so much cooler than mega-samus |
heyadam
09.15.22 | Damn, this thread might make me pick up Three Hopes before pokemon comes out.
I hope Scarlet/Violet is guuuud. Lowkey dropped Arceus even tho everyone was creaming while playing it -- I just can't get into open world games if they're just filled with busy work, so it'll be interesting to see a mainline pokemon game take a more open approach. |
PotsyTater
09.15.22 | I liked arceus but it was a shell of a game undeniably. It was a nice appetizer and I hope they do more with the concept in the future |
PotsyTater
09.15.22 | Think I’ma try out the three hopes demo pretty soon here |
heyadam
09.15.22 | yeah if they improve on it, it would be dope. it was cool for what it was, but I couldn't make it more than 10hrs in.
Deciding between Three Hopes if I yolo it or just doing Ashen Wolves again bc I only played through it one time |
Slex
09.15.22 | Yeah I will be downloading the Three Hopes and Harvestella demos tonite, I wish other systems had the same amount/quality of demos as the Switch tbh |
Uzumaki
09.15.22 | Yo, Mercedes was a fantastic healer, just wish her leveling wasn't shit especially after the timeskip; you gotta take her out soloing maps just to get proficiency levels up it feels, and it's almost the end of the game before she gets to the level she needs to be to use her relic. |
Uzumaki
09.15.22 | With that being said, I should fire up 3H again to see where I'm at and see about finishing things up. I've only got Edelgard and both routes to go. |
heyadam
09.15.22 | Do it uzu! I'm hoping the last two BL maps don't give me too much shit and I'm able to beat them tonight. |
heyadam
09.15.22 | Hanneman is kicking my fucking ass in this random paralogue fight rn lmao. he was never this good |
heyadam
09.15.22 | lmao okay but I just won by using Lysithea to teleport Dedue right next to Hubert and punch him in his beautiful face until he retreated |
Uzumaki
09.16.22 | lololol |
PotsyTater
09.16.22 | Oh Dedue, ever stoic |
heyadam
09.16.22 | I just cheesed the second to last BL map hard by using Lysithea to teleport Dimitri across the map to take out one dude, and then danced to let Lysithea go to Byleth and do the same thing. Since Dimitri cleared out the guy, Byleth was able to get right next to the commander and sublime heaven him into the abyss lol |
heyadam
09.16.22 | this final BL fight is lowkey the hardest out of all of them. those mages are st00pid |
Uzumaki
09.16.22 | In the castle? I just moved EVERYBODY up the left hand side. |
heyadam
09.16.22 | I did that with the right hand side and got SMACKED by a couple of those mages that just meteor — it was hard to predict who might get hit. I honestly will just switch out Ingrid for Flayn to have another healer |
ArsMoriendi
09.16.22 | I found the final BL fight easy but also because I went right and not left
I went left first initially and realized it'd 100% kill my Dedue and Gilbert, but I also wanted to take all of the BL into the final fight so I refused to bench them...so go right |
ArsMoriendi
09.16.22 | It also helps if your weakest unit is a magic user, since Edelgard always targets Dimitri and your weakest unit whenever they're in her line of fire. Marianne was my weakest and even when she got hit she always survived |
heyadam
09.16.22 | it’s the mages with ragnarok that fuck me up - any unit I use as bait to draw people in (can’t full on charge to be in range to hit them) gets obliterated bc their range is the whole map lol |
ArsMoriendi
09.16.22 | Wait, are you playing on hard or maddening? I've only ever done hard
If on hard, I used a combo for Byleth as the chosen one and dark knight Sylvain to take hits with a constantly retreating Falcon knight Ingrid. Oh and my dark flier Hapi had that thunder sword that can attack from SUPER far away, I forget the name |
heyadam
09.16.22 | Just hard - I beat it but I lost Annette and Flayn and was not about to redo it again lol. I’ll make it a separate save so I can go back when I have the energy to retry |
heyadam
09.17.22 | also, gave in and bought Three Hopes lol. I’m having fun so far - they’re introducing a ton of new characters, and the alternate universe story is still interesting |
PotsyTater
09.17.22 | I’ve been playing the demo and I like it ok but kinda feel pretty much how I thought where I wish it was more dynasty less try too hard to be a game that it isn’t |
heyadam
09.17.22 | Did you pick the “fast and fluid” gameplay option? I think it streamlines a lot of the order giving stuff. Lysithea is nowhere near broken in this game tho lmao. |
ArsMoriendi
09.26.22 | Three Houses should've had a multiplayer mode where you'd each deploy 10-12 units on a map and battle it out
It's so obvious, why doesn't it exist? |
ArsMoriendi
09.26.22 | Like imagine if you couldn't use a team until you completed an entire story, but then once you did you could deploy your final team in an epic battle
My Dark Knight Sylvain vs uhhhhhh idk someone's Great Knight Sylvian |
ArsMoriendi
09.26.22 | Or even the ability to mix and match units from different files in multiplayer so your army can have Dimitri, Claude, Edelgard, Hubert, Dedue, Hilda, Gilbert, Jeritza, Seteth, and Flayn all at once lol |
Uzumaki
09.26.22 | I know it's not Three Houses, but Fates had something like that, where through Nintendo Streetpass you could visit some other player's castle and choose to battle them/their units. |
Cygnatti
09.26.22 | new MC looks dumb but idrc. not crazy on the old heroes gimmick but we'll see.
3H is still lit, I need to do a classic lunatic run. |
Cygnatti
09.26.22 | "I know it's not Three Houses, but Fates had something like that, where through Nintendo Streetpass you could visit some other player's castle and choose to battle them/their units."
I remember this, it was cute. street pass was the goat |
ArsMoriendi
09.26.22 | I hate the new gimmick honestly, seems like the type of fan service to get in the way of immersion |
Cygnatti
09.26.22 | I think it's obscenely lame, but still I shall wait |
PotsyTater
09.26.22 | Agreed |
heyadam
09.26.22 | not stoked on the gimmick either but still stoked to play in general? I still feel like at its core it’ll be fun, and maybe since I haven’t played a ton of the other games it won’t feel as servicey to me as they’ll just be like any other unit / npc |
Uzumaki
09.26.22 | Maybe there’ll be a way to play without the summons… |
Minortimbo12
09.26.22 | nice job on rackin the comments |
Uzumaki
09.26.22 | Well, when the game is good… |
heyadam
09.26.22 | lmao. my one goal in life was to have a 1k+ thread on sput, and now I can die sad but accomplished |
Minortimbo12
09.27.22 | turn to Jesus |
heyadam
09.27.22 | his name is Ignutz, and he died for my sins during my first playthrough |
Uzumaki
09.28.22 | That would be hilarious to do like a “Blessed Ignutz” run where you feed him every stat enhancing item in your inventory and pair him with Petra to wreck the maps. |
heyadam
09.28.22 | dude I mentioned it somewhere in the absurd amount of comments above but I’m def gonna do a redemption Golden Deer run and make him a god lmao |
heyadam
01.08.23 | dudes Engage is looking hella fun imo - only a couple weeks away!
https://youtu.be/F8o1OwPpvyY |
Slex
01.08.23 | All the coverage I'm seeing for Engage is saying it's a hard swerve from Three Houses I am so so so so so so disappointed : ( |
heyadam
01.08.23 | Really? In what way? I’m kinda seeing the opposite in that it builds on a lot of what 3H did. I don’t think I’ll be as into the story or the characters as much as 3H, but gameplay wise it looks pretty lit |
Slex
01.08.23 | I've heard the story is way more straightforward and the characters are a lot more shallow. The combat was the thing I was least interested in but I'm excited for homies getting it, will probs sit this one out |
nol
01.08.23 | combat is all I care about when it comes to FE so count me in
the characters won’t have as much depth but 3H was kinda unique in that way, I wouldn’t expect that again until another mainline game comes out, which this doesn’t really seem to be imo |
nol
01.08.23 | combat in FE can be really fun, especially when you aren’t waiting an hour between each battle |
Uzumaki
01.09.23 | So we getting a brand new spanking comment section for the new one or are we pushing this into 2500+ territory? |
nol
01.10.23 | lol I bet the new game gets 50 comments tops |
nol
01.10.23 | I’ll bet I still enjoy it more than 3H personally, but the characters are just not gonna have as much depth as 3H, nor the story, and that’s what kept people talking about this game.
I see it as more of a legacy title for long term fans, thus the whole “emblem characters” feature. What new FE fans know what a Sigurd is lol. But I’m sure they also know the veteran fans are vastly outnumbered by the 3H newcomers, so I’d guess Intelligent Systems is already working on the real successor to 3H as we speak |
Uzumaki
01.10.23 | @nol depends on how many of these newer fans played the mobile gatcha game, as it brought back a shitton of classic characters to add to your arsenal. |
nol
01.10.23 | That’s true, almost seems like its trying to make a full-fledged game from the idea of heroes.. fugg that game tho, it’s microtransactions worked and I don’t like that. (Very classy portrait art tho) |
nol
01.10.23 | they need to port all the pre-3ds titles to the switch, FE is basically a top tier franchise for Nintendo now, the fact that half the games are still Japanese exclusive/200$+ to get your hands on a legit copy of is supreme bullshit
then people might know what a Sigurd is |
Uzumaki
01.10.23 | I would absolutely LOVE to get ports to the switch |
heyadam
01.10.23 | Let's go for that 2500 lmao. I played FEH for a bit, but the maps were v boring to me. And yeah, I really hope we get ports of the older games!!
also still stoked for Engage. Idk how replayability will be compared to 3H (which was made to be replayed) but I hope this could be a game I dump a dumb amount of hours into |
nol
01.12.23 | the map design in 3H was really boring yeah, I get why people coming from 3H don’t hold the combat of the series in high regard, if that’s all they know |
Ryus
01.12.23 | just got three houses swag |
ArsMoriendi
01.12.23 | Nice Ryus! Pick Golden Deer first because it’s the best house
It has Claude, Leonie, and Lysithea |
heyadam
01.12.23 | You'd add Leonie as best? hahaha. bold.
Lysithea ez goat |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Leonie is an amazing unit, has great supports with everyone except for Byleth (I admit her’s with him are bad but duh) and she gets the hardest paralogue |
nol
01.14.23 | these Engage previews are looking so promising.. I’m officially hyped |
nol
01.14.23 | apparently you can talk to the previous lords too, I thought they’d be strictly a gameplay mechanic. Can’t wait to pick Ike’s brain again |
nol
01.14.23 | also Jeralt is the dumbest fucking character ever introduced in a FE game and I will not explain myself |
nol
01.18.23 | hot damn these fire emblem engage reviews are DIVISIVE, fire emblem fanbase is about to be at war with each other
tons of people are upset that it’s such a diversion from 3H, but interestingly there’s a huge uptick of people finally criticizing the criticizable aspects of 3H, which is pretty life affirming for me as I’ve felt very lonesome with my disinterest in 3H 😂. It is a tedious fucking game. |
nol
01.18.23 | gloves are on I’m tired of 3H hype it’s a 7/10 game at best and outside of the story it’s aging like shit FIGHT ME |
Gyromania
01.18.23 | I wanna check this game out. The new one seems possibly lame |
Nbehre11
01.18.23 | Gotta agree, I love Fire Emblem but 3H was very tedious. I have zero desire to replay. Bring on Engage! |
heyadam
01.18.23 | 3H rulez but Engage looks like it will in a different way. I got enough of all the story and characters in 3H to last a lifetime so I’m definitely looking forward to a more battle focused game. UI and map design looks clean af! |
nol
01.19.23 | I do desire a fire emblem game with a quality storyline, it is a sell for the series. But it will come soon enough. So many reviewers are talking about what this MeANs foR tHe FUtuRe of the FRAnchIsE but it honestly means very little if you look at the evidence. I read that it was initially supposed to be released pre-Covid as an Anniversary title celebrating the history of the franchise (which makes a lot of sense). It’s a one-off title almost guaranteed.
If Intelligent Systems likes money, which they do, the true follow up to 3H will come sooner than people realize. I just hope it’s more streamlined, having to replay an 100 hour game because you picked the shitty route is just bad game design. |
heyadam
01.19.23 | I don’t think there was a real “shitty” route though. There are some that are better than the others, but at the core they’re all at least interesting. I’d argue that accidentally falling into the church route as a first playthrough would suck, but the flags were there and obvious to stick with edel if you wanted.
hyperbole in general is annoying, so I agree with the future of the franchise nonsense lol. that just seems more like a perception problem than an actual game problem. 3H being my first FE experience was fuckin awesome, but I’m equally excited for a change of pace (or even a “return to roots”). It’s like you can enjoy both types of experiences? Even a 7/10 by your rating is a mostly good experience, so it just feels nitpicky at that point.
I hope you’re right about the “true follow up” tho! tbh I feel like this is the follow up and a celebration, but I could be wrong |
nol
01.19.23 | I wouldn’t have finished the game if I hated it, but my playthrough took me over a year lol, I kept getting burnt out. The monastery was just too much for me, but I still felt like I had to do it or I’d be missing out on the game/important buffs for my characters.
I did the Fuck the Church Black Eagle route and idk I felt like I missed a lot and at the end I was like uhhh I don’t like their POV but too late lol. The game wants me to replay it but I just couldn’t right now. Makes me sad because I want to see the story from a different perspective, especially the golden deer route.
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nol
01.19.23 | fire emblem engage looks like an arcade game I love it |
nol
01.19.23 | fuck it I bought it lets go |
PotsyTater
01.19.23 | Engage looks shit. Let us know how you like it so I can disregard your inevitably shit opinion |
nol
01.19.23 | 🤙 |
nol
01.19.23 | sorry this game doesn’t have as fleshed out of a Courting-Underage-Schoolchildren system 😢 I can see how it wouldn’t be for you |
nol
01.19.23 | 🥊🥊 |
Nbehre11
01.19.23 | @Heyadam if you’ve not played the GBA games, that’s where my love for the series started. I find myself revisiting them every year or two haha |
Nbehre11
01.19.23 | @Heyadam if you’ve not played the GBA games, that’s where my love for the series started. I find myself revisiting them every year or two haha |
nol
01.20.23 | gba titles + PoR on GameCube is peak fire emblem
@Nbehre11: have you ever tried a Binding Blade translation? It’s worth a shot although it can be frustrating |
nol
01.20.23 | my brothers were in a fire emblem phase when PoR came out and I still have their copy to this day. Shits worth like 300$+ now lol but I’d never sell it, I have radiant dawn too |
Nbehre11
01.20.23 | I haven’t! Will have to try, and also wish I had played POR as well. Hopeful for a port at some point haha, I’m not tech savvy enough to try to mod my switch for that 😂 |
nol
01.20.23 | I’ve seen more people call for a PoR + RD port lately than ever before, so I’m hopeful that maybe just maybe they’ll be smart and do that. Lots of “best fire emblem stories” lists with PoR at #1 where it belongs. |
nol
01.20.23 | just be prepared if you play Binding Blade because it is much much harder than Blazing and Sacred Stones. They thought Americans were dumb so they dropped the difficulty drastically 😂
but if you’re a Blazing Blade fan it’s a must play |
Nbehre11
01.20.23 | Oh I love more difficultly, sounds like a dream! I’ll have to get on it haha
Also yes to ports, would love that happen! |
ArsMoriendi
01.20.23 | Finally finished Silver Snow and with that I've beaten all 4 routes
Golden Deer is the best team, but I guess Azure Moon had the best story |
GreyShadow
01.21.23 | i still have to finish my BL route, i told myself id do that before i started Engage but wow i wanna buy Engage but i don't cuz distractions but i do cuz fomo gahhh |
nol
01.21.23 | the story in engage is awful but the gameplay is right up my alley. they should’ve gone the full nine yards and given this game no story at all lol.
I’ll do a maddening playthrough at some point and I’ll probably just skip the cutscenes and dialogue |
necropig
01.22.23 | Fire Emblem Engage with anime tids
The story so far |
heyadam
01.22.23 | the only thing weird with Engage's battle system is how vague the enemy intent lines are in this one lol. I think it's been accurate like maybe once? I kind of like it bc it catches me off guard, but I also kind of hate it |
PotsyTater
01.23.23 | Enjoying Engage so far, I thought I’d hate the emblem ring mechanic but in practice it’s pretty fun. Also not mad at the lack of social sim aspects at all. Thing is, Three Houses was pretty much a perfect game but it was HUUUUGE. The amount of time you had to spend between battles was just got ludicrous. It’s nice to go from something that expansive to something where you can just dive into the next fight again. I’d like another “Three Houses” some day, but right now is too soon. This is a refreshing change of pace. |
PotsyTater
01.23.23 | And agreed about the enemy intent lines, a whole lot of what the fuck there |
Sharenge
01.23.23 | the prodigal potato returns |
PotsyTater
01.23.23 | you’re way too easy to wind up nol 😂
But yeah I do wish this game had a teenage child soldier who wants to fuck my dad that I could marry |
PotsyTater
01.23.23 | When I met mc’s mom I thought maybe the plot twist was that this time they would want to fuck my mom but then she instantly died oh well |
nol
01.23.23 | when I met the mom I was like “damn I hope I can kill her” and then she brought out the ring and i was like “nope she dies instantly” |
nol
01.23.23 | and you are not wrong pots lol I’m getting to be aware of that fact |
nol
01.23.23 | also regarding the mom that’s the reason Jeralt sucks. I knew he was going to die the millisecond I saw him and the game hypes it up so fucking much |
necropig
01.23.23 | Putting your hand over your chest and bowing slightly needs banned from gaming. |
necropig
01.23.23 | The critical attack with the Wo Dao is hilarious |
heyadam
01.24.23 | Okay but for some reason Somniel feels like it drags more than the Monastery? The controls are a little wonkier, and the layout is just a weird maze. It’s also funny that the support convos are like three sentences of dialogue long |
necropig
01.24.23 | Bonding conversation are just a few words but support ones actually give some story etc |
GreyShadow
01.24.23 | the emblem mechanic is way more fun than i thought it would be (kinda like how i ended up feeling about terastalizing in SV kinda)
game is so fun, i love how important the triangle feels. all these new mechanics have been a joy to play around with. story is whatever but i gotta say there is something that cracks me up everytime someone simps for Alear in the supports and she's just like ummmm "could ya...not...please" |
GreyShadow
01.24.23 | Somniel is a weird maze for some reason but it looks so quaint, i like it. im not actively searching for/talking to all my members this time and there's fast travel so nbd |
nol
01.24.23 | yeah I could do without the monastery lite version |
nol
01.24.23 | I need someone to do a playthrough where they tally every time someone says the word “Divine Dragon” |
nol
01.24.23 | only time I ever doubted the emblem mechanic was when the game got first announced and it was like “oh look, fire emblem heroes for switch yay.” As soon as I got a look at how it worked in practice I knew it was gonna be a very fun mechanic, especially on harder difficulties
kinda same with terastalizing, at first glance I just saw fancy hats which made my eyes roll, but then I saw it added a third type and I was way more interested |
heyadam
01.24.23 | I do like the lower tier emblem rings - the gacha system is chill and it’s fun seeing what different combination buffs you can give units. I kinda wish the main emblem rings weren’t so tied to the narrative, bc it feels weird switching them out from the character they were designed for. I have Sigurd on the starting mage boy and it’s pretty lit bc of the movement buff / canto |
heyadam
01.25.23 | it’s weird they took out the fully rotatable camera during battle tho — like why? lol. also the C bond convos with emblems are hilariously like three words long |
GreyShadow
01.25.23 | yeah no fully rotatable camera is odd. the maps look so pretty now too, i'd love more angles |
PotsyTater
01.26.23 | Yo this bitch really just took all of my rings |
PotsyTater
01.26.23 | “ also regarding the mom that’s the reason Jeralt sucks. I knew he was going to die the millisecond I saw him and the game hypes it up so fucking much”
True but it’s also the reason Leonne rules |
heyadam
01.26.23 | Leonne is like damn I miss your dead dad bc I was his apprentice for three hours |
PotsyTater
01.26.23 | She’s so precious |
heyadam
01.31.23 | I know Monastery haters are plentiful, but it’s like a billion times better than Somniel. They should’ve just removed that and had everything menu based, honestly would be better |
GreyShadow
01.31.23 | "Yo this bitch really just took all of my rings" [2]
spoilerz |
GreyShadow
01.31.23 | somniel is too aesthetically pleasing for me to say mean things about it
monestary is def better though/made more sense for the game. |
PotsyTater
01.31.23 | Monestary was great but I’m relieved to not have to do all that again. I like having somniel as a hub for shopping and leveling etc but they shouldn’t have even bothered with the gift giving and item collection busywork. I like my stops there to be short and sweet. |
heyadam
02.01.23 | Yeah the gifts/items is a pain in the butt. And the minigames suck lol. I guess I just miss the writing of 3H, especially at the monastery. They actually made it feel like you were checking in with all the units and getting more and more story from this -- I swear to god I talked to someone in Engage and they were like "Yum apples" and I'm like hell yeah glad I ran across this janky map for that haha. |
nol
02.02.23 | Engage is such a fitting name, every time I launch the game I have to choose what aspects to engage with and what to avoid with a 10 foot pole
I’m enjoying it more as I’m getting into it tho, the map design is really great and the return to form with the weapon triangle is all the more impactful with the break mechanic. |
nol
02.02.23 | they could’ve fit everything important from the somniel in the post game map walkarounds and a single hub menu.. this is why I prefer older fire emblem games man haha
I say mean things about the monastery but at least it’s indulgent enough that people who enjoy that side of the gameplay have plenty to feast on. I can’t see how the somniel appeals to anyone |
nol
02.02.23 | one thing that’s shocked me is the English Voice acting is surprisingly solid outside of specific clanne/framme freak outs and Sigurd sounds bored and lowkey alear is too stale |
nol
02.02.23 | I kinda prefer the subtle character building in this game (and older games) to the full blown monastery “learn every character’s mothers maiden name and SSN” character building strategy. Like Boucheron is this aloof, goofy dude, but when he gets a crit he says “I hope your soul gets the rest it deserves..” so you know deep down he’s a cold motherfucker. I like that. |
heyadam
02.02.23 | yeah I enjoy that style of character building too to a degree! I just think the lack of any meaningful non-support dialogue outside of combat could have been done away with -- it was just another point in my mind against Somniel lol. I agree that a post-game menu would just be a lot better for this particular game. There's so much micro-managing with the rings and stuff anyways, that it feels weird to have to do that and then go run across a map to collect "1x butter" lmao. |
nol
02.02.23 | ah yes x1 horse manure I’m glad I spent a precious 30 seconds of my life sprinting across the map to retrieve this artifact |
heyadam
02.02.23 | I do really enjoy the actual maps and combat (minus the non-360 camera) -- one thing I really liked about 3H was how easy it was to plot out a unit's trajectory and really know where you want to take them, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that in Engage. Like I have 100 mages and have no idea how to differentiate them by trajectory.
Definitely glad the development crew is making use of the current switch hardware and making it look prettier and improving on most aspects of the UI. |
heyadam
02.02.23 | I also like the engage mechanic itself better than gambits as far as "high impact on the battle" mechanics go. They're just fun and flavorful and can do cool stuff |
nol
02.03.23 | just keep the mages with the best stat growths and yeet the rest, this is the way.
I feel like I could make an argument for no rotatable camera but it’s mostly that I’m used to it being fixed, that was a new feature in 3H. I’d always look at it from all angles once for the novelty and then end up playing it the way the camera starts anyway.
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nol
02.03.23 | just remember initial stats can be misleading and pre-promoted units suck ass 99% of the time
I use Vander exclusively as a meat shield currently but he’s bout to be benched, sad! |
GreyShadow
02.03.23 | Engage rings are def cooler than gambits and the game seems pretty well balanced around them
also holy fucking shit chapter 17 hurts |
nol
02.03.23 | this bitch is about to steal my rings.. |
PotsyTater
02.03.23 | Why the fuck you playing this in English VA |
PotsyTater
02.03.23 | Also I don’t care much about stats and shit I just play with the characters I think are cool tbh |
nol
02.03.23 | because Japanese VA is even worse. wish I could play it in German |
nol
02.03.23 | the coolest characters usually have the best stats anyway. but you should still keep an eye on the stats of the characters you do use to know which areas to focus on with stat buffs and weapons and shit |
PotsyTater
02.03.23 | Japanese VA is much better objectively
“ you should still keep an eye on the stats of the characters you do use to know which areas to focus on with stat buffs and weapons and shit”
Well duh lmao |
PotsyTater
02.03.23 | Who are your fav units |
heyadam
02.03.23 | Yunaka gang lesgooooo |
PotsyTater
02.03.23 | Dude yunaka is queen |
nol
02.04.23 | definitely gonna marry boucheron but Celine is my fav combat unit so far. just got Lapis she seems dope |
PotsyTater
02.04.23 | Don’t care for Boucheron. Celine, I hate her round ass egg dress design but I love her engage form with whatsherface. She fell out of my rotation. I do love Lapis |
nol
02.04.23 | my preferences might change once my rings get stolen which I’m preparing my nuts for. Louis + Sigurd is a godly combo rn but he’s a pretty lame character so I’m keeping an eye out for another armor knight potentially |
nol
02.04.23 | I just wanna get Ike tbh |
PotsyTater
02.05.23 | Louis slaps, I have edelgard trio on him |
nol
02.05.23 | damn you got the dlc already? I’m waiting til they add hector |
PotsyTater
02.05.23 | Yeah I said fuck it. Tiki on Chloe is absolutely broken lmao, she’s absolutely unstoppable |
GreyShadow
02.05.23 | Yunaka gang!!!!!!!
just gave Louis Sigurd's ring, this shit is nutty lol.
i feel like i'm gonna want to do a maddening run when i finish the game. chap 19 now so we're close! |
nol
02.05.23 | I’ll prob wait til the dlc rolls out more to do a maddening run, I’m definitely interested. I’ll try it in Japanese too cuz why not. I’m getting more into it now so I’ll probably finish the game in a month or so |
nol
02.05.23 | feel like extra emblem rings would make the early game hella unbalanced. Later in the game I’m sure it expects you to have emblem rings on nearly every character tho |
GreyShadow
02.05.23 | the game feels incredibly balanced in the main story as is, dlc seems like it would definitely tip the scales. and from what i hear Tiki is just broken in general |
PotsyTater
02.05.23 | Dunno, only have put her on griffin knight Chloe but I can’t remember the last time anyone has landed a hit on her and her health bar is basically the entire screen lmao |
heyadam
02.06.23 | glad the yunaka simps are in chat - KWEEN |
PotsyTater
02.06.23 | Im also a bit of a Rosado simp myself and am quite perturbed that they are not romanceable
This means I will likely go with either Ivy, Lapis or Merrin |
Cygnatti
02.06.23 | Big Yunaka fan yeah, haven't figured out what characters I like off the bat other than her, tho. I like Celine and Diamont too.
I like the gameplay of the game a lot, it's very fun and compelling compared to older titles. The story is kinda infuriating, but also kinda cute and fun when you don't take it seriously. |
Cygnatti
02.06.23 | "Okay but for some reason Somniel feels like it drags more than the Monastery? The controls are a little wonkier, and the layout is just a weird maze."
Disagree, I just teleport a bunch. It's way smaller than the monastery. |
PotsyTater
02.06.23 | Tier list that has nothing to do with stats
S tier - Rosado, Yunaka
A tier - Colgate-san (Female), Merrin, Panette, Alcryst, Lapis, baby Anna, Ivy, Zelkov
B tier - Clanne, Framme, Etie, Chloe, Seadall, Diamant, Kagetsu, Hortensia, Goldmary
C tier - Vander, Louis, Jean, Timerra , Citrinne, Jade,
D tier - Alfred, Celine, Fogado, Bunet, Amber, Saphir,
F tier - Boucheron, Pandreo, |
nol
02.08.23 | more I play the game the more it’s growing on me from the initial culture shock. I’ll make my tier list later |
nol
02.08.23 | Louis just keeps getting better, he’s gonna be a staple |
PotsyTater
02.08.23 | Yeah Louis is a beaut. I recently dropped him but it hurt my feelings a little
Bit. |
PotsyTater
02.08.23 | Gee I wonder who the fell dragons other living child is 🙄 |
nol
02.08.23 | lol I just got through chapters 8-10 and the whole time I was like “Gee I wonder if King Morion is gonna die” |
nol
02.08.23 | oh fuck they just added Hector and SOREN emblems today?? buying the dlc lol. Soren’s the coolest you don’t even know |
nol
02.08.23 | there’s so many lame ass popular characters they could’ve picked but they went with Soren of all choices… I’m so proud of intelligent systems rn lol |
nol
02.09.23 | first gba fire emblem game released in America is coming to the switch in 2023 too. super lit |
PotsyTater
02.09.23 | Haven’t played Soren’s games but I too am a hector simp |
nol
02.09.23 | Soren is Ike’s boyfriend |
nol
02.09.23 | I’m still gonna wait to beat the game to get the dlc, takes me a few battles to get the hang of each emblem anyway so throwing 5 more in the rotation would just get confusing as this point. It’ll be a nice reward for beating the game, I’m def planning on a second playthrough on maddening to use a different cast of characters and the new emblems
might also do a speed run on easy to see how OP I can make my units |
nol
02.12.23 | bout to promote all my units let gooo |
PotsyTater
02.12.23 | What is ng+ like ? Three houses ng+ was great imo |
heyadam
02.13.23 | guys I haven't even gotten past chapter 9 yet : ( I didn't drop this, but I also am never like "LETS FUCKIN GOOOO" and want to play it. Started playing the HP game and then botw2 is on its way so I don't know when I'll actually finish this. |
GreyShadow
02.13.23 | ohhh you gotta get past 11, that's when the story starts getting at least relatively interesting. the gameplay is keeping me hooked regardless doe. on chapter 20 and finally feel like i can clear the paralogues with relative ease |
GreyShadow
02.13.23 | also @Potsy i've heard there's no NG+ |
PotsyTater
02.13.23 | That is supremely wack |
nol
02.14.23 | the gameplay has me mega hooked I’m on chapter 16 now.
def gotta get past chapter 11 that’s when the game really takes off |
PotsyTater
02.14.23 | Ur catchin up boiii |
nol
02.14.23 | yeah I’m blazing through it now, considering 3H took me over a year I think I know which game I prefer lol
also you guys have probably realized this but the guide lines in this game don’t mean the enemy will attack you, just that they can attack you. If you are in their range, the guideline always appears, no matter the unit. Once you realize that they actually are really helpful, especially with the different colored lines for high crit and unit effective weapons.
Idt the game tells you that which is dumb, but yeah, they probably changed it because it’s impossible to predict the exact attacks of the enemy in a game where rng is king, the lines in 3H were frequently wrong |
nol
02.20.23 | itll never not be crazy to me just how old the fire emblem series is. like I stumbled upon it nearly 20 years ago now, and even then it was already a 15 year old series. it predates pokemon by 7-8 years; the first game began development in friggin 1987. pretty nuts |
nol
02.20.23 | and the mechanics/tropes have been consistent the whole time, like the whole idea of support conversations is a 30 year old concept debuting in a game from 1994. shit just blows your mind lol |
PotsyTater
02.20.23 | I agree |
nol
02.20.23 | Ronald Reagan was the president of the United States when the first fire emblem began development |
heyadam
02.21.23 | gonna keep going with this soon — I know I’ll like it eventually and the battles were fun so far, it’s just everything else that felt like a slog atm |
nol
02.22.23 | I’m on chapter 20 now 8/12 emblem paralogues complete, game has done nothing but grow on me. I wouldn’t consider it a slog at all anymore, everything is there for a reason. Other than fishing I guess lol |
nol
02.22.23 | oh and the nuts in the top left corner of the somniel are pretty pointless |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | I’m literally mid battle chapter 21 lol. Had to pause to go sleep |
nol
02.22.23 | My squad is Alear, Clanne, Alfred, Boucheron, Celine, Jean (if you don’t use Jean you fucked up), Louis, Yunaka, Alcryst, Lapis, Ivy, Timerra, Seadall, and Kagestu
Lots of early game units but there’s something special about raising a unit from the dirt into a murder machine. I wanted to use Rosado but her (their?) stats just aren’t good enough. My best units are definitely Louis, Boucheron (once he got Ike he ascended into Godhood) and Clanne, but they’re all pretty OP. |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | I don’t use Jean and I did not fuck up because I don’t care about his pOtEnTiAl he is not a part of my fantasy
Rosado is great love them. I use Framme, Rosado, Ivy, Alear, Celine, Lapis, Louis, Yunaka, Alcryst, Seadall, Merrin, Panette, Diamant, kagetsu, and will probably use Veyle
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nol
02.22.23 | fuck ur fantasy |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | Fuck yo kid |
nol
02.22.23 | jk everyone is permitted their own personal fantasy |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | I love that they wasted a playable character slot on this old ass pastor |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | I also love that they gave us the second lamest hound as a playable character |
nol
02.22.23 | as long as it isn’t marnie |
PotsyTater
02.22.23 | Fuck u talkin bout Marni is the second best hound |
nol
02.23.23 | good it isn’t marnie |
GreyShadow
02.23.23 | Marni had 2 of the funniest moments in the game (might just be dub actually?)
"I hate you!" and in chapter 17 pre-battle when she CONVENIENTLY shows up when Zephia is telling Veyle what happened. that shit had me in stitches |
GreyShadow
02.23.23 | almost done, on chapter 23, all paralogues done, i think close to 110 hours atm.
gonna do a maddening run after. been watching a lot of Michael Wasko if anyone's interested. hearing him talk about the game/FE in general def inspired me to want to try maddening without using any build guides or whatever |
PotsyTater
02.23.23 | Yeah marni rules
Also man I don’t want to spoil anything for those that aren’t there yet but holy shit the plot points get unfathomably stupid at chapter 21 lmao |
heyadam
02.23.23 | I need to finish this by BOTW2 lol |
GreyShadow
02.23.23 | i think you become invested by chap 11 cuz it works it's way into the gameplay very well but yeah, plot is just something to lol. i dont hate it, honestly but it's just so lol. gotta go into it without trying to take it seriously in the slightest!
when marth says the THING after 22 (?) i died of laughter but also cheered real hard lmao |
PotsyTater
02.23.23 | My favourite part of the whole story is when Alear becomes thing and then immediately after the cutscene she is just magically back to normal Alear with no explanation whatsoever |
GreyShadow
02.24.23 | my immediate thought after that was did they explain why she's both the thing and normal or am i just supposed to accept that
also, just beat 23. THAT was the worst story section of the game that's been inflected upon us thus far. again, laughed my fucking ass off lmfao. it was fine/serviceable and then alear and the gang leave and it's just wuuuut lmao |
PotsyTater
02.24.23 | Nope. No explanation. We just accept. 🤪
Can’t wait, I’ll probably experience that for myself later tonight |
nol
02.24.23 | I’m thinking of doing a run of a different fire emblem game once I beat this, and running an easy playthrough of this skipping all cutscenes and using the dlc bs as stress relief. I’m thinking Genealogy of the Holy War, which is Sigurds game. Supposed to be a classic rpg in general, I’m especially interested in the story which I know is super heavy and depressing. Game hits you with themes like child sacrifice within 5 seconds of pressing new game lol |
nol
02.24.23 | not glued to genealogy tho, there’s a bunch I wanna play right now. Radiant Dawn I haven’t played in a decade, engage makes me wanna try a different storyline in Fates which is similarly shitty story + awesome gameplay, I wanna do a binding blade run with TRUE permadeath no takebacksies, too many options! Gotta stick with one tho |
nol
02.24.23 | also I’m not quite as far so maybe you guys know more, but there’s no way the emblems won’t use their SECRET superpower to un-thing alear |
nol
02.24.23 | unless we speak of different things |
PotsyTater
02.24.23 | actually they use it to thing her which happens to also un-other-thing her |
PotsyTater
02.24.23 | Somehow |
nol
02.25.23 | I’ll probably beat the game on Monday or Tuesday, got some days off to grind the rest out |
nol
02.25.23 | Pretty proud of how my team turned out this time around, one of my issues with my 3H playthrough was half my units just weren’t up to snuff and I had to rely heavily on Byleth Edelgard and fuckin Jeritza. This time every one of my units has an important role on my team and can slay at will |
GreyShadow
02.25.23 | just beat Engage!!! recency bias is making me think it might be my 2nd favorite FE behind Three Houses but just edging out Awakening and Sacred Stones. some incredible maps/mechanics in this one especially from 17 onwards. I think the 2 that this beats for me were a bit more special in terms of how attached I was to the experience as a whole but god, tactical gameplay wise, I don't think it's been better from the games I've played.
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GreyShadow
02.25.23 | if I really want to criticize anything gameplay wise, some systems def aren't perfect like SP for example and i feel like no inheritable class skills makes them a bit less important than they have been but Emblems kinda make up for that. |
nol
02.25.23 | I think we were talking about different things |
Slex
02.25.23 | So is the game anywhere as good as 3H |
GreyShadow
02.25.23 | gameplay wise it's outstanding, if you liked FE without the sim/persona aspects
story/character depth wise no no no not even in the same realm but it's definitely a laugh. there's a single pretty cool moment that gets reflected in the gameplay at the early midgame point doe |
nol
02.25.23 | but the gameplay is what actually matters |
nol
02.25.23 | I have thoughts on what engage means for the series as a whole but I’m gonna finish it first before I braindump |
nol
02.28.23 | I thought there were 23 main chapters for some reason and now I’m on chapter 25 and am questioning life |
PotsyTater
02.28.23 | Ok now that you’re caught up how did you like the part where Alear dies and is resurrected like 5 times in four minutes and becomes an emblem and then magically becomes also not an emblem at the same time |
nol
02.28.23 | she’s a fell dragon! no wait she’s dead! no wait she’s corrupted! actually she’s an emblem. haha u thought |
nol
02.28.23 | I’m definitely entertained |
PotsyTater
02.28.23 | I’m still just reeling that veyl turned out to be alears sister 🤯 |
nol
02.28.23 | just wait til Zephia looks Sombron dead in the eye and says “make babies with me daddy” |
nol
02.28.23 | definitely my fav dialogue moment in the game |
PotsyTater
02.28.23 | I mean who wouldn’t let sombron breed them |
nol
02.28.23 | he’s like damn bitch settle down wait til we get home |
PotsyTater
02.28.23 | I can’t wait to see caliggys tier list, you just know he tried to romance veyle |
nol
02.28.23 | and then there’s griss who picks the absolute worst moment of all time to try to slide, he even holds her hand after she’s dead cuz he knows she’d be like “homie, ew” if she wasn’t 😂 certified scrub |
GreyShadow
02.28.23 | that whole section with zephia and griss at the end is the kinda shit you think you cant make up. but low and behold, a writer did that. |
nol
03.01.23 | it’s fine I was entertained |
nol
03.02.23 | honestly the griss scene is absolutely something that could’ve been in 3 houses word for word. I really don’t get why people think it is above dialogue like that |
GreyShadow
03.02.23 | definitely entertaining, cant argue with that lmao |
GreyShadow
03.02.23 | started maddening and chapter 5 (firene castle) was already quite the ordeal. the enemies are already so bulky |
Demon of the Fall
03.02.23 | I played one of these games on 3DS and it was good fun. I have this on my radar but was expecting a price drop by now. Nope. It seems that Switch games remain costly, even after they've been out for a while. |
GreyShadow
03.02.23 | yeah, nintendo is notoriously awful with that. no reason botw should still be $60 and shit like god of war and tlou2 on playstation are about $20 |
GreyShadow
03.02.23 | i remember a holiday sale for three houses had it at $30 which would be amazing for how much bang you could get for your buck but that def wont happen often. |
GreyShadow
03.02.23 | i gotta say, looking at three houses after playing engage makes that look like the ugliest shit outside of the characters. it's almost comical lmao |
nol
03.02.23 | lol I’m looking to get dark souls remastered and it’s 40$ everywhere for switch and 20$ everywhere for Xbox and PlayStation.. ninty’s got some splaining to do |
nol
03.02.23 | and yeah 3H has about as much visual entertainment as dungeons and dragons |
nol
03.03.23 | final level pretty difficult.. think I got a good strategy forming tho. gotta be fast |
PotsyTater
03.03.23 | @nol ds1 remastered is not a game you will be playing undocked so if you have ps or xbox just go that route. I do have the switch remaster myself and it plays great tho. |
nol
03.03.23 | idk my fake joycons make undocked a very real possibility. unless it runs worse or something. |
PotsyTater
03.03.23 | It’s not about the controls or how it runs it’s that the screen is too small, it just doesn’t feel right and it makes it much harder. You’ll see what I mean if you get it on switch and try it out. |
nol
03.06.23 | just beat the game. final boss was scary at first but I did the final push today no problem. excited to try out the dlc bullshit on easy as stress relief! |
PotsyTater
03.06.23 | I haven’t played in a while I think I’m on chapter 23 or so |
nol
03.06.23 | i wanted to move on to other things but was too far to leave it unresolved so I opted to plow through the final levels, my units being god-tier helped in that regard.
Overall I really enjoyed the game. There are aspects of the game that leave some to be desired but it really knocks it out of the park with sheer amount of quality content related to the tactical/combat side of fire emblem, and that’s what I’m gonna take away from the game. |
GreyShadow
03.06.23 | oh god, final boss was nerve-wrecking but overall i think it was probs the best final boss i've played in the series. required constant movement and the weapons the enemies had were ridiculous so you had to be on your toes at all times.
started my maddening playthrough and i feel like i'm getting better at it as i keep playing (just beat brodia castle which i think is 8). citrinne missed a thunder on a 92 and i thought i was gonna explode just due to sheer youve gotta be fucking kidding me lmao |
GreyShadow
03.06.23 | gameplay is genuinely the best it's been thanks to the great maps and mechanics
my nitpicks:
-i wish the sp system was better, i don't even mean more generous, but just something that made more sense
-great maps and great mechanics yes but i wish we still had more varied map objectives. or at least things like escape, defend, beat in this many turns, catch this enemy (whatever the personal paralogue was is what i mean by that) more often
-no class skill inheritance bums me out BUT i get why, thanks to emblems
-classes did feel less interesting in this game with every promoted unit being a 5 or 6 move/one weap (paladins can be a sword or lance unit for example, not both), a lot of class skills being kinda meh and classes getting only 1 class skill. they really come down to growths and fulfilling a role in your comp. but AGAIN this is complimented by emblems allowing for crazy customization so it does balance out but i still wish there were more. a lot of units getting personal classes also kinda makes up for this but i wish they were just regular classes
and idk that's really mostly it as far as core gameplay goes. im just praying for them to one day bring back the magic weapon triangle and then i'll never need anything else. |
GreyShadow
03.06.23 | i'm really curious as to what's next. id imagine something more in line with 3 houses has been in the works ie something more story focused with a new type of story x gameplay mechanic. idk how you "beat" three houses conceptually but i'm very hyped for whatever they are gonna try.
oh and maybe a genealogy remake since that is apparently the goat |
nol
03.06.23 | Tactics/combat: 10/10 (new standard for fire emblem gameplay. Impeccable stuff)
Music: 9/10 (-1 for cheesy intro song, vast majority of the soundtrack is fucking goated)
Inventory/Skill/Character Management: 9/10 (Smithy, arena, and ring chamber are all well implemented and give you tons of options to build your murder machines)
Animations: 9/10 (a few repetitious ideas, but overall game just blows 3H out of the water in this regard)
Characters: 8/10 (not as much depth per character but you get a massive cast of likeable characters that gives you tons of variety to experiment with. Gives the game replay value)
Artstyle: 8/10 (again there’s some reused ideas (especially the corrupted) and some minor and rare texture and fps flaws, but overall the color palette is vibrant and gorgeous, and the map designs are easy on the eyes throughout)
Supports: 7/10 (you gotta sift through a lot of bullshit but there is some heart to a lot of the support convos. this is where you really learn about your characters, which is an intentional design choice. Bond convos exist.)
Extracurricular activities: zzz/10 (lots of activities throughout the somniel worth trying once and never again. They need a revamp to this side of fire emblem)
Overall Plot: 2/10 (the story sucks, probably the worst in the series. but unfortunately not by much. There’s a lot I could say here, but this laughable story is still 100% trademark fire emblem, and that says a lot about the series in general. Out of 16 or so games in the series, there are 2 (two) that have powerful, well-executed storylines, neither of which are three houses (or awakening or fates or any of the gba titles or OG Marth games…)
these ratings are canon. |
nol
03.06.23 | as a disclaimer I do think 3H has the 3rd best story in the series but it still falls victim to a lot of the same worn out tropes that every other FE does, and the execution is flawed |
GreyShadow
03.06.23 | i'm not here to say the 3H story is anything masterclass but how you experience it/how immersive it feels is why i love it.
i started skipping most supports, so bored and there's so many. some are def VERY fun though. Goldmary and Yunaka always have some pure gold.
i thought the soundtrack was solid. the paralogue remixes made me very happy and the main somniel and solm somniel theme were amazing. Solm def had the best map music with Fierne in 2nd but it def doesn't feel as standout as previous games. |
nol
03.06.23 | The paralogue remixes slap so fucking hard |
nol
03.22.23 | You guys gonna get advanced wars reboot? Same developer and similar gameplay, but guns instead of swords, and units are disposable for instead of rpg characters. Really fun game! |
nol
03.22.23 | got delayed a year because it had “realistic depictions of warfare” which Nintendo thought was in bad taste due to the war in Ukraine.
I find that hilarious |
nol
04.05.23 | I guess not lol. You guys should check it out tho it’s gonna be fun |
GreyShadow
04.05.23 | that's wild lmao
anyone trying the dlc story stuff yet??? in the middle of my maddening run (chap 16, im doing the thing!) so i'll wait til after that. kinda insane how quickly we got it and now the release train is seemingly over |
nol
04.06.23 | Oh shit it’s already out? Gotta check. I’ve been trying out the dlc emblems and they are very broken. |