Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | Also what company in this day in age doesn't have a customer service staff? |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | Oh it fixed itself. Crisis averted. |
Flugmorph
11.12.18 | not down for me
also facebook is evil
not just the corporation but the timeline itself
only breeds sadness
stop |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Just went back up, I was having a panic attack because I thought someone hacked me because of my recent post on an anti-SJW page which read "I'm a cultural/pro-Israel Jew who doesn't believe in God and voted for Hillary Clinton AMA"
That particular group has actual racist/anti-Semetic posts and is not purely anti-SJW so I thought someone actually fucked with my account aha |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | It went down for like 5 minutes.
But for real though. Like I can't even search for trending sadness anymore. It's all store bought. |
Kompys2000
11.12.18 | ᵒʰ ⁿᵒ, ⁿᵒᵗ ᶠᵃᶜᵉᵇᵒᵒᵏ, ᵃⁿʸᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᵇᵘᵗ ᶠᵃᶜᵉᵇᵒᵒᵏ |
Snake.
11.12.18 | zucc cares more about targeting antifa memelords than fixing the site sooo |
RadioheadIsOverrated
11.12.18 | not anymore |
Supercoolguy64
11.12.18 | zucc the cucc lel |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | At Least Zucc would've gone down swinging.
I thought facebook deleted me because I've been sending shit to their support box for the past 2 weeks and haven't heard shit. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | lol you think zucc goes after antifa rather than trump memelords?
im on the left and I think thats ridiculous |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | As much as I respect Antifa they can't meme.
Also remember when rightests were bitching that facebook wasn't spreading their articles enough? |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Looks like you can cuck the zucc after all. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | ehhh
stop respecting antifa pls
agreed that far right people who were bitching about facebook not spreading their bullshit articles are lol worthy though |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Antifa are garbage. |
veninblazer
11.12.18 | Not use a site made for aunts and grannies?
lol jk |
JoeTex
11.12.18 | fb's down then use myspace |
Snake.
11.12.18 | “you think zucc goes after antifa rather than trump memelords?“
anything that passes as “far left” or “social justice warrior” zucc is coming for you |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'As much as I respect Antifa they can't meme.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9r6U8_-2os |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | "stop respecting antifa pls"
I mean, considering I'm queer / Non-binary / Latinx (A holy trinity of what white supremacists do not like) The presence of antifa is always a bit encouraging. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | @dfevil - I get that, but imo it's counterproductive and just makes people on my side seem like violent, irrational insane people |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'My personal rights and freedom are secure so when people fight for marginalized groups, I'd rather they wouldn't because it makes my side look bad.'
Fuck me dude, get a wider perspective please |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Also they claim to be anti-fascist while acting like fascists. I dont think beating up anyone they deem fascist is the best way to have a real change here, it just makes things worse. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | Read up on Karl Popper and stop acting like a 6 year old Adolf |
platnum
11.12.18 | If antifa makes the left look bad, then in that case, the right can be blamed for: literal neo nazis, the KKK, white nationalism in general,proud boys, and right wing domestic terrorism.
Antifa may have caused property damages but at least the left doesn't have all that blood on our hands.
Also as a minority it's a genuinely terrifying time to be alive rn, so condemn hate groups not antifa.
|
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | This year 15 people have been killed in America by right-wing domestic terrorists, compared to what? Richard Spencer getting punched on live TV? Fuck me stop Antifa in their tracks how can they be so violent? |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | @crypt well he also said its counterproductive. And the people theyre "defending" are usually on the same "side" lucca is talking about, so it behooves them to be taken more seriously as well. Now stop throwing a tantrum over differing opinions, goddamn. What a baby. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | You really don't want to see what happens when nazis stop getting disrupted in attempts to conglomerate and propagate, and even entertaining that notion shows how extremely little you know about the topic. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "Also as a minority it's a genuinely terrifying time to be alive rn, so condemn hate groups not antifa."
Ill just condemn both, but thanks. |
platnum
11.12.18 | Edit |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | 'My personal rights and freedom are secure so when people fight for marginalized groups, I'd rather they wouldn't because it makes my side look bad.'
Holy shit, what an unbelievably dishonest summary of my views. Seriously, go fuck yourself for that. You're SO virtuous, my lord. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | "If antifa makes the left look bad, then in that case, the right can be blamed for: literal neo nazis, the KKK, white nationalism in general,proud boys, and right wing domestic terrorism."
Yes. They make the Right look bad. Antifa makes the Left look bad. All of the above suck. I say this as someone on the Left. This isn't hard to figure out. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'I do want to see. I also want to see actual Nazis and not the people you call "Nazis".'
I'm sure you do, maybe you can actually get a girl when you get a uniform to go with that anime avatar |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'Holy shit, what an unbelievably dishonest summary of my views. Seriously, go fuck yourself for that. You're SO virtuous, my lord.'
If you don't get that Antifa is fighting for people whose actual lives are threatened by reactionaries and you really think it is your place to tell them they shouldn't get protected because it makes you feel bad I don't know what else to do for you. |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | Le epic anime avatar insult. What would you do if I had no avi, lol? |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Where did he say they shouldnt be protected lol, turning that intellectual dishonesty up to ten, aye? |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | Probably get rid of the mental image of a intellectually sixteen year-old sitting yelling about how racism can't be real because you can't see it and making angry posts on image boards about videogame feminists |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Except they don't only attack violent people, dude. They are a pretty unorganized bunch that have destroyed property (many of which are businesses of not wealthy minorities) and hurt people in acts that are not just self defense. And not everyone they have hurt are "literal nazis" or whatever else you are imagining.
Jesus, not every situation is the same. Read any news story about this that isn't on the super progressive ends of things, for your own intellectual growth before you just start throwing accusations at people for the most innocuous statements ever. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | I have a feeling this is going to be a useless interaction but goddamn. |
DikkoZinner
11.12.18 | TC deserved it |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | "Probably get rid of the mental image of a intellectually sixteen year-old sitting yelling about how racism can't be real because you can't see it and making angry posts on image boards about videogame feminists"
... What the fuck are you even saying, lmao? |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'Except they don't only attack violent people, dude. They are a pretty unorganized bunch that have destroyed property (many of which are businesses of not wealthy minorities) and hurt people in acts that are not just self defense. And not everyone they have hurt are "literal nazis" or whatever else you are imagining.'
So much citation needed |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | @Lucca
These interactions are always useless, just have fun, man. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "Probably get rid of the mental image of a intellectually sixteen year-old sitting yelling about how"
I thought you were talking about yourself for a second there. No idea what the hell youre going on about though. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Here is just one, it took me like four seconds to find. If you want I can spend a shit ton of time just posting stories here, but that would be boring as everyone here has google. And I know what you're going to say about the speaker, but that's not the point.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.html |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | BTW do you think stories like that are better for people like Yuannopoulos or for people on your side? Genuine question. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | Black Block, not Antifa, get your ideologies straight my dude |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | @Alex - aha agreed, my bad for getting a bit heated but that was a hell of a word game before |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | Still waiting on some actual citation |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Sputnik turning a thread about facebook going down into a heated political discussion, never change. |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | Truly epic. |
Cimnele
11.12.18 | itt mistaking people in moshpits for antifa |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | I just posted an article of ONE example that caused $100,000 worth of damage to a campus.
I'm not falling into this trap lol. Provide me citations of all of the good that Antifa has done for the Left. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'BTW do you think stories like that are better for people like Yiannopoulos(*) or for people on your side? Genuine question.'
The left in general has an actual consistent value system so this is better for the reactionaries, but only because they're willing to point to any single article to prove their point but whenever challenged, their sources turn into fake news. Can you blame the left for the rights disingenuousness? |
JoeTex
11.12.18 | ""TC deserved it""
Tom Cruise? |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'I just posted an article of ONE example that caused $100,000 worth of damage to a campus.'
Anarchism isn't antifascism. Get your ideologies straight. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "The left in general has an actual consistent value system"
Lmao im on the left, and what? |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | Good meme my dude |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | ....fuck this, I'm out lol
We're not going to come to an agreement on this. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Btw if you're going to talk to people, especially people on your side, you should start out less aggressively so you don't come across as a total douche. |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | As long as you're unwilling to use proper political terminology, I guess we wont |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'Btw if you're going to talk to people, especially people on your side, you should start out less aggressively so you don't come across as a total douche.'
Ignorance is no excuse for stupid fucking statements, and the need to be coddled in a discussion is gonna keep you nice and uninformed. Also get the fuck out of here with the 'your side' bullshit, if you're gonna go ahead and make excuses for reactionaries I don't care what side you claim to be on. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Jesus fuck, you do understand that anti-fa are a group of individuals as well as an ideology, yeah? Like there may be anarchists who also are in anti-fa, but all of this is irrelevant because the group in question who are responsible for those acts in the article I posted WERE FROM ANTIFA
Why am I still arguing this |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | I'm just saying, not being a total fucking asshole might be slightly advantageous if your goal is to get people to listen to you. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "Anarchism isn't antifascism. Get your ideologies straight."
??? What are you going on about? |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | And what memeing? Where did you learn to debate, an ANTIFA meeting? |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | lmao |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'I'm just saying, not being a total fucking asshole might be slightly advantageous if your goal is to get people to listen to you.'
'Let's be reductionist because it sells well'
Holy shit, I take back what I said about the left-wing having a moral system |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | Crypt confirmed stereotypical triggered SJW college echo chamber type, yeesh. I dont like throwing out those buzzwords, so you know youve got issues if youre hearing it from me. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | Yeah, if people on the left are calling you SJWs, you might want to reevaluate how you communicate with people dude lol |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'Crypt confirmed stereotypical triggered SJW college echo chamber type, yeesh. I dont like throwing out those buzzwords, so you know youve got issues if youre hearing it from me.'
Yeah, you never throw out those buzzwords :') |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | And you never make relevant or honest arguments, does that make us even? |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | I can't tell if I'm actually being trolled or not |
Cryptkeeper
11.12.18 | 'Also they claim to be anti-fascist while acting like fascists' |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | At least i hope youre being intellectually dishonest, it would keep me up at night knowing someone that dumb and straight out of a right wing meme is right here on sput. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | "At least i hope youre being intellectually dishonest, it would keep me up at night knowing someone that dumb and straight out of a right wing meme is right here on sput." [2] hard |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | K, I already got him to point out my avi, can we talk about Japanese peanuts? |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | A straight edge Latino who listens to hardcore music |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | An abuse of my language. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "Latinx is a gender-neutral term sometimes used in lieu of Latino or Latina."
Ignorant pigs. Its not MY job to educate you! |
Sinternet
11.12.18 | this might just be the lamest thread of all time |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.12.18 | @Sinternet - you say that now that facebook is back up, but where were you when it was down? |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | @sin You look really cool right now! *thumbs up* |
Rolling Girl
11.12.18 | Jesus this thread blew up in a way I wasn't expecting.
Quick thoughts: the effectiveness / methods behind antifa are of course debatable. But when literal white supremacists make themselves public. A show of force against those people and their ideologies is very encouraging. It's not meant to be presaussion, its for the audience / community that this is not acceptable.
Also Facebook support still hasn't gotten back to me like what the actual fuck. |
Kompys2000
11.12.18 | Some truly epic "both sides" arguments ITT |
J() Alexander
11.12.18 | This thread was kind of fuckng boring tbh. |
Deathconscious
11.12.18 | "its for the audience / community that this is not acceptable."
imo, driving those ideologies underground and forcing these people to keep it among themselves might seem good right away, but youre just sweeping it under the rug instead of dealing with the problem. its not going to cultivate a real shift in mentality, and could cause it to bubble and boil underneath until it explodes. i saw this story on a black guy who befriended dozens of KKK members and converted them away from that sort of thinking. that, for example, is a much more effective way of bringing about change than causing further conflict and hatred. |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.13.18 | What adolf said (never thought I’d say that, as a Jew) |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.13.18 | “Some truly epic "both sides" arguments ITT”
Lol yeah dude, we’re saying that Nazis have ideologies that are on par with leftists.
Nailed it. |
Kompys2000
11.13.18 | In all honesty though I agree like 95% with what you're saying, I just don't think "Antifa is actually bad/detrimental to leftist causes" is really the best bottom line to have |
DarkSideOfLucca
11.13.18 | I'd rather not align myself with people who think that violence against people who they disagree with ideologically in an democratic society is the best way to go about things just because we both vote blue. Distancing myself from people on my side who I think are morally abhorrent doesn't mean that I all of the sudden agree with people on the complete opposite side of the argument, nor does it mean that I am in any way giving them a pass - that's incredibly lazy thinking. But agree to disagree, I guess. |
Deathconscious
11.13.18 | if you had friends youd know that. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.18 | remember when people you hung out with used to be obsessed with facebook and were always reading their newsfeed and couldn't do anything else with their free time? glad those days are over...except for this thread creator's world, lol |
Asdfp277
11.13.18 | what |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.18 | don't dare what me |
Keyblade
11.13.18 | "imo, driving those ideologies underground and forcing these people to keep it among themselves might seem good right away, but youre just sweeping it under the rug instead of dealing with the problem. its not going to cultivate a real shift in mentality, and could cause it to bubble and boil underneath until it explodes. i saw this story on a black guy who befriended dozens of KKK members and converted them away from that sort of thinking. that, for example, is a much more effective way of bringing about change than causing further conflict and hatred."
lol my man said befriend them |
Deathconscious
11.13.18 | Nah, i said its an example of a better way to change things. I dont expect everyone to do that, that guy went above and beyond. Though if everyone was like that, the world probably would be a much better place. |
budgie
11.13.18 | keyblade wanna be fbook friends |
Keyblade
11.13.18 | for a dude named after hitler u sure are naive |
Keyblade
11.13.18 | deactivated fb years ago, only old ppl on that joint now |
budgie
11.13.18 | yeah.....i was joking............. |
Deathconscious
11.13.18 | How would advocating for something that has proven results be naive? |
Asdfp277
11.13.18 | the black dude befriending and subsequently dismantling a kkk bunch is so badass tho |
Cryptkeeper
11.13.18 | Let's all do a reverse Michael Jackson and send David Duke a friend request |
osmark86
11.13.18 | pretty much only use fb these days as a last ditch substitute for r/soccerstreams |
