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| | Odd genre tags for Artists on Sput | | 1 |  | Kayo Dot
Choirs of the Eye
If these guys are progressive then Godspeed You! and Naked City are also progressive. Kayo Dot is essentially a post rock band with heavy jazz/avant-garde influences combined with heavy riffs. No odd time signatures like Tool's music or complicated song structures like Rush or even Pink Floyd. Kayo just has really long songs with occasional changes of pace similar to jazz and chamber music. | | 2 |  | The Velvet Underground
White Light/White Heat
How exactly are these guys psychedelic? Honest question because hardly any songs by The VU can be properly labeled as psychedelic and the few songs that even fit that description come from the first album (Heroin, The Black Angel's Death Song, and All Tomorrow's Parties). Other than that it's quite challenging to make a point saying that White Light/White Heat, the s/t, and Loaded are psychedelic. The VU is instrumental in the development of punk music and revolutionized experimental and, dare I say, "alternative" music by taking noise/avant-garde music that The Beatles' "Revolution 9" brought to the masses and taking it to ends so extreme it was something that was simply far ahead of its time. | | 3 |  | Motorhead
Ace of Spades
I can understand that "heavy metal" is a loose term for bands like Motorhead, Led Zeppelin, and even the likes of Guns N' Roses, but anyone who has a brain about Motorhead knows that simply calling them "metal" is a disservice to what the band stands for. This nitpick is simply something not born from Lemmy's death but rather the band being not only the vocal, tangible idealism of Rock N Roll, but also punk rock. Sure, Motorhead is instrumental in making Speed Metal and heavy metal popular, but, frankly, they're not that heavy. | | 4 |  | Lana Del Rey
Born to Die
"Dream pop." Cmon now it was just one album out of however many other LPs and EPs she's released | | 5 |  | Pink Floyd
Live at Pompeii
So Tyler, the Creator can get the "experimental" tag but not Pink Floyd? | | 6 |  | Steven Wilson
4 1/2
Frankly, I'm not very sure what makes Mr. Wilson's solo work "progressive." I mean his solo albums sound rather watered down in their progressive sounds especially when you compare it to the likes of, say, The Whirlwind or even Deadwing | |
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04.29.16 | this is what keeps you up at night? | brainmelter
04.29.16 | I feel Kayo Dot has more metal in it than you're giving it credit for | Cygnatti
04.29.16 | ""Dream pop." Cmon now it was just one album out of however many other LPs and EPs she's released"
you seem lack the nuance to understand that bands have up to 3 genre tags, of varying importance. only the first two really mean anything, the third one should be regarded as a "tertiary" genre, meaning it is expressed through various songs by the artist, but would never be considered the artist's prime genre(s). | Cygnatti
04.29.16 | progressive METAL (NOT simply "progressive" anymore) is used as a catch-all tag for any avant-garde metal, technical metal (techdeath, etc.), along with prog metal. | brainmelter
04.29.16 | ohh, gotcha | ArsMoriendi
04.29.16 | This is probably a good place to mention this:
Why on Earth is Soundgarden tagged "Stoner Rock" ? | Cygnatti
04.29.16 | ok so lemme break this down for ya.
tyler, the creator makes (some) experimental hip hop, some users thought that it should be appropriate to tag "experimental" on him. i don't see this is as either wrong or right. and if you looked a pink floyd's page, 6 people tagged with it experimental, whereas only 3 tagged tyler with it.
the tagging system works so that the two highest rated genres will ALWAYS be displayed (even if the 2nd one merely has only 1 vote, while the first has 100. if there is a tie, then it will be randomly selected). however, the 3rd and tertiary genre would only be displayed IF it got 15% or more of the total votes.
pink floyd is a huge band -> they get tons of votes -> some include experimental, but simply not more than 15% total. therefore, pink floyd has no 3rd genre attached to the band page.
tyler the creator is not huge -> does not get as many votes -> only 8-10 votes in hip-hop, while 3 in experimental -> both will be displayed on his band page. | Iamthe Nightstars
04.29.16 | Yeah, a lot of genre tags aren't accurate on here. It's throwing off my pie chart that says Slayer is death metal and Taking Back Sunday is emo. | Cygnatti
04.29.16 | taking back sunday is quintessential emo-pop, therefore not technically mistagged | LotusFlower
04.29.16 | RYM has a better genre system | ArsMoriendi
04.29.16 | Yeah I guess there's a song here and there, but heavy metal or even just metal would make way more sense for their 3rd tag (since they're correctly tagged alternative rock and grunge) | AlexKzillion
04.29.16 | Think it's kind of fucked up that some people tag Living Colour as black metal. | Keyblade
04.29.16 | the ppl who tag all 90s east coast hip hop as jazz, no bueno | Ovrot
04.29.16 | WHOA THERE MOTHERFUCKER
DID YOU JUST CALL MOTÖRHEAD NOT HEAVY? | AlexKzillion
04.29.16 | I would characterize Motorhead as metal personally. | Zig
04.29.16 | "Heavy metal (or simply metal) is a genre of rock music ..."
Wiki source.
Got confused, now. | Deathconscious
04.29.16 | Bay Faction is tagged R&B. the fuck. | Cimnele
04.29.16 | you really fucked up by saying Kayo Dot weren't progressive lol | DoofusWainwright
04.29.16 | You could list 90% of the tags on the site
Especially the ones I tagged | Sinternet
04.29.16 | S/o to everyone who thought they were a comedic genius to tag Ashley Tisdale as grindcore | DoofusWainwright
04.29.16 | Could have been me | Keyblade
04.29.16 | how are they not progressive is a better question | organizedsound
04.29.16 | How ISN'T Kayo Dot progressive? They fit the tag in pretty much every way besides sounding like 70s prog, which isn't a "progressive" sound for a modern band...and they have complicated time galore; sounds like you're not listening close enough. One last thing: they don't have any connections to jazz, except MAYBE some fusion on the last few records. There's no improvisation in Driver's music | organizedsound
04.29.16 | Reading your KD and Steven Wilson comments, it's clear that you like your "progressive" music to not be actually progressive, but to fit into the confines of "prog." I'm not going to waste my time
By the way I disagree with everything on this list |
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