ArsMoriendi: Shaking the Habitual Ranked

ArsMoriendi 02.21.15	Yeah, the update on the lists is awesome.
Frippertronics 02.21.15	okay you got 1 and 2 right 10/10 100/100 best list
ArsMoriendi 02.21.15	13 is also right because fuck that song.
Havey 02.21.15	nahh
Relinquished 02.21.15	not a fan of long ambience are u
Cygnatti 02.21.15	Really good album. :]
IronGiant 02.21.15	Agreed, great album but I can't stand that fucking 19 minutes of agony
Ryus 02.21.15	9 should be a lot higher but ya overall good ranking
SurfWaxAmerica 02.21.15	I pretty much agree with this list, even though Fracking is still a bit hard to listen to. It's just so jarring, but it just demands your attention just like the rest of the album so it fits in a hell of a lot more than Old Dreams.
AliW1993 02.21.15	I've never had a problem with Bad Dreams, though I seem to be in the minority on that. Raging Lung and Full of Fire would by my top two.
ArsMoriendi 02.21.15	Are you sure you like it haha? You called it "Bad Dreams" instead of "Old Dreams" lol. Freudian slip much?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	list is wrong and shit
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	also 13 is better than anything mike patton has ever done objectively
ArsMoriendi 02.21.15	@Potsy: I was waiting for you to comment. I figured you'd have something wrong with it too. Care to go into detail?
zoso33 02.21.15	the only thing wrong with this list is that you didn't 5 it Ars
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	@ars album is objectively perfect but if i HAD to rank, the correct ranking would be 1. a tooth for an eye 2. ready to lose 3. raging lung 4. wrap your arms around me 5. a cherry on top 6. full of fire 7. without you my life would be boring 8. networking 9. stay out here 10. old dreams 11. fracking fluid injection 12. crake 13. oryx
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	also tooth for an eye is one of the greatest songs ever crafted
zoso33 02.21.15	whats a good starting LP for this band? i'm really into fever ray just haven't listened to much Knife
Yotimi 02.21.15	Album's pretty bad but 1 & 2 are cool
ArsMoriendi 02.21.15	@Potsy: Wow you put "Full of Fire" below "Wrap Your Arms Around Me" ...I can't even consider agreeing with that. Also, now to be all Ars about it: calling any form of art "objectively perfect" makes me cringe, no matter how much I love the art. @zoso: Try Silent Shout, it's pretty accessible.
Yotimi 02.21.15	Silent shout is great yeah
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	@ars i mean its trivial, all of the songs are perfect so me ranking them doesnt mean much. but regardless i am correct. "calling any form of art "objectively perfect" makes me cringe, no matter how much I love the art. " take more not serious comments more seriously @yotimi i just lost the tiny bit of respect i had for you tbh
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.21.15	not that there was much to lose
Yotimi 02.22.15	Album's all "go feminism" blah blah lame feminism yay blah blah feminism and then some boring shit
AmericanFlagAsh 02.22.15	Full of Fire rules agreed
ArsMoriendi 02.22.15	@Yotimi: Silent Shout is all about feminism too soooooooo
Yotimi 02.22.15	Which is why I lowered it from a 5 to a 4.5 a while back ha. But really it just has a way better atmosphere, more interesting beats, unique melodies, more color, no 19 minute ambient tracks, etc. And the feminism doesn't come across as preachy and stupid.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.22.15	"Album's all "go feminism" blah blah lame feminism yay blah blah feminism and then some boring shit" what are you fucking 16 years old yotimi you clown, Full of Fire alone has enough provocative gender commentary in its little pinky to tear apart socially constructed hierarchies. you are the problem with the world. idiots who think its cool to discredit anything remotely feminist because your understanding of it is so minuscule you probably think its a movement of feminine tyranny and that upsets your delicate sense of testosterone laden balance. i will crush you with a soup spoon maggot.
Yotimi 02.23.15	Its like the Shania Twain of electronic music
ArsMoriendi 02.23.15	"Its like the Shania Twain of electronic music" What? Shania Twain's "feminist" songs are so shallow and the lyrics on these are so in depth... how could you even consider comparing them?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.23.15	you're like the this retard of the human race; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZXfsACkl4U
Yotimi 02.23.15	You're like the this retard. Spoken like a true genius. The only time I write more than a sentence is when you're in a thread Potsy. You're easy to get riled up and you always bring the goods. I honesty don't remember a single line from this album. Just think it's missing everything that made Silent Shout good.
Yotimi 02.23.15	Is this good for other reasons? Probably. Sounds bad to me though.
Ryus 02.23.15	this is so much better than silent shout its outrageous ? ? ??
Yotimi 02.23.15	Not even close.
Yotimi 02.23.15	Potsy, our make-up sex is always our best sex, so there's that too.
TheCrocodile 02.23.15	Still waiting for the Einsturzende Neubauten influences Beebe was talking about in his soundoff tbh...
Keyblade 02.23.15	Raging Lung and A Tooth are easily my 2 favs. Need to revisit this baby, it's been a while
ArsMoriendi 02.23.15	@Ryus: I honestly slightly prefer Silent Shout... but both are amazing. It's so sad that they broke up. I would have loved to see them live.
Ryus 02.23.15	idk silent shout is pretty boring to me but yeah seeing them live would have ruled
ArsMoriendi 02.23.15	Boring? :o I have it 5'd honestly.
Ryus 02.23.15	i can see its appeal but i never dug it should probably listen again though
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.23.15	@yotimi ur a stupid idiot and you deserve to suffer
Yotimi 02.23.15	Damn dude.
Cygnatti 02.23.15	full of fire is just that hot fuckin fire. god i need to jam this again.
ArsMoriendi 02.23.15	I was playing "Full of Fire" around my friend who likes primarily jam bands yesterday and he called it EDM... It made me wonder: do most people think that all modern electronic music is just EDM? If so, that's kind of sad.
Cygnatti 02.23.15	hmm well it is electronic, and something to "dance" to or at least "move" to.
RoundOnEndHiInMiddle 02.23.15	EDM is a too general of a categorization, like alternative rock
NorthernSkylark 02.23.15	normally your opinions are cool ryus, what happened?
Keyblade 02.23.15	"It made me wonder: do most people think that all modern electronic music is just EDM? If so, that's kind of sad." why is it sad? it's just an umbrella term which was used in a casual conversation
Torontonian 02.23.15	dude a 4.5 seems rly high if you don't like 19 minutes of an album, damn, you must have really hated moonmadness
ArsMoriendi 02.23.15	@Keyblade: Denotation aside, I feel like the connotation for EDM is generic club music that people who are super drunk dance to at some rave club. Usually accompanied by 1 verse repeated over and over for catchiness. @Tonontonian: Still can't get over the fact that I 3.5'd Moonmadness? I have this 4.5'd because I really like literally every track other than "Old Dreams." To the point that without "Old Dreams" this would be a really strong 5. The entire album is over an hour and a half, so this still an 1 hr and 17 mins of awesome.
AliW1993 02.23.15	"Are you sure you like it haha? You called it "Bad Dreams" instead of "Old Dreams" lol. Freudian slip much?" Ah, you got me. In my defense, it's a fair while since I've given the record a spin!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	edm isnt a genre its an american music industry buzzword associated with modern club music (aka shit 'dance' music that djs play at the worst clubs in your local area), it doesnt denote any specific sub genre of electronic music in any way shape or form and is about the least apt term you could possibly use to refer to this album with
Frippertronics 02.24.15	dear lord here comes the EDM nonsense it's about time
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	there shouldnt be any more, i just pretty much ended that discussion
Frippertronics 02.24.15	i could rather care less about what is what and all the labels of electronic music, whether it be IDM, EDM, House, or whatever people want to label the music. I really don't understand how some people get worked up over the EDM label, but you know what, I guess that's for the best that I don't fully understand.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	people get worked up about it because its a horrible representation of the genre and people that use the term think that electronic music really is just this genre of club filth
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	for an example that you might appreciate, its kind of like if someone referred to swans as a post rock band but way stupider
Frippertronics 02.24.15	okay, that makes sense. the label really doesn't matter to me, if it sounds good and isn't irredeemable shit, it's all that matters.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	this is true
Frippertronics 02.24.15	you can label something as avant-crunkcore gyspy owlman swag-step and if it sounded decent, the label wouldn't matter one bit if it wasn't shit.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	yeah but thats a much more intriguing label then edm which is a tag that i avoid like the plague
Frippertronics 02.24.15	there are some labels I'm cautious with, but it never hurts to try something under that specific tag. if it ends up being garbage, then so be it. On to the next promising musical endeavor.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.24.15	the point in this situation being that if an electronic album is labelled 'edm' you can assume 1 of 2 things: 1) the person who tagged it has no idea what they are talking about and likes club music 2) the music is garbage club music either way its probably going to be bad
Frippertronics 02.24.15	okay sure, but in the end it's just a meaningless label that doesn't fully represent the genre as a whole.