JKing92
04.22.24 | I had a good bit to get off my chest, but I figured I'd do it now rather than later. I hope you all will be at least somewhat understanding. Not that I'm expecting people to fully agree with me, but I hope that there's a sentiment here people can take into consideration. |
Butkuiss
04.22.24 | I’m constantly shocked with how polite the general userbase here has become compared to a decade ago tbh — I’m sorry you’ve had a bad time but take solace in the fact it ain’t as bad as it used to be by half. |
Colton
04.22.24 | if somebody mocks your taste simply reply by listing their 5s or pie chart. you instantly win |
botb
04.22.24 | If you think it’s bad now, 10-15 years ago it was insane. People like different things, don’t take the ribbing too personally |
AsleepInTheBack
04.22.24 | Assume every single comment on this website is posted with a tiny invisible asterisk and that this asterisk refers to the following phrase: “in my opinion”
Makes the spicier bants a little easier to digest in the long term
Nothing wrong with a sput break every once in a while though |
Demon of the Fall
04.22.24 | That's a shame, especially the harassment part which is in no way acceptable. I congratulate you on the mental fortitude required to realise taking a break may be of benefit, as I'm far too weak for that
hope you come back at some point, rejuvinated etc. |
DoofDoof
04.22.24 | johnny's not that bad |
zakalwe
04.22.24 | Tell me who it is I’ll sort ‘em out. |
chemicalmarriage
04.22.24 | Seems like you genuinely enjoy sput, so fuck it do what makes you happy. If a break is needed then so the fuck be it. But If someone is constantly shitting on you maybe they are mad cuz they cant have your ween. Fuckem. Sorry you're feeling bullied but again, if you like the site and have fun here fuck the motherfuckers, 5 whatever you want and jam what you want who honestly gives a fuck. Drop some names and beat some ass |
artificialbox
04.22.24 | It helps to imagine that the people on this website aren't actually real. I've had to learn the hard way to not engage with certain people on here or get too involved in discussions because it's just bad for my mental health. I go thru phases of being like "fuck these people" but then I remember for every egotistical troll there's like 10 really sweet supportive people who actually just love talking about music. |
zakalwe
04.22.24 | We are real.
The random snippets of thread based slagging off or banter is an extension of who we are and by and large we are all mad cunts on this site with massive hang ups, issues or full blown delusions. It’s why I’m here any road. |
artificialbox
04.22.24 | I mean not real in the sense that you can just close the thread if someone's being annoying and then boom they no longer exist and can't hurt you. I like the way you put it though Zak. |
botb
04.22.24 | Hey man, is anything real or is this all just like a simulation man |
gabba
04.22.24 | This sucks big time, it must have been really painful to come to this conclusion! Given the music-nerds we all are, it is ofc challenging to be bullied for one’s taste, since it is our deepest aspect of personality. Troll-nerds feed on this, ‘cause they’re psychos and compensate for their insecurities for appearing overly confident. But they’re just wankers, the real deal if one resonates with you. Just remember that in music there’s no ground-truth, which is the beauty of it all. We are indeed real, and we’re here to share our feelings & thoughts, for whatever reason we feel the urge to do so. Maybe it’ll take some time, but you’ll have this urge again. And then, come back, wanker-proof! |
zakalwe
04.22.24 | Indeed! |
AmericanFlagAsh
04.22.24 | Lmao Doof
As someone who is constantly battling people with the "I'm better than you" attitude, I've learned that they truly don't matter or know any more of less than anybody else |
Nikkolae
04.22.24 | while I agree with the whole website being less toxic, i would not say its better, if anything i think the whole site is dying out.
and there are still plenty of massive cunts that think commenting "lol this album sucks" is a nice addition to any conversation on a review that probs took the writer a good few hours to put down. i fucking hate it here sometimes. |
bellovddd
04.22.24 | I love this site because of the trolls and idiots floating around. Makes me feel a lot better about my day to day life knowing those kind of people exist and somehow manage to have an internet connection. |
AsleepInTheBack
04.22.24 | It’s all part of the ecosystem
Site wouldn’t have any character if everyone got along all the time, might as well stick with rym. |
Egarran
04.22.24 | Good comments, everyone!
See you soon King. |
Futures
04.22.24 | stick around man. but yeah back in the day this place was gunfights on the daily lol |
myri14
04.22.24 | Sorry for the ridiculous wall of text but your post resonated with me and I have some stuff to get off my chest
I secretly not so secretly really like the clashing personalities because it seems like people have a healthy amount to say about the music they're passionate about. On the one hand, users have unique obscure stuff they're super passionate about, but on the other hand it seems that there's those albums and bands out there that a lot of people have stuff to say about which leads to reviews and discussions with meaty points being made. There's contingents of people who like electronic dance music and contingents of people who like metalcore, etc, and it's really fun to band together with your crew who all like the same style and discuss classix, new and old gems, and maybe even stuff that didn't go over so well for you but person X and person Y really felt something with it. I suppose that's where the arguments start.
I think because of the difficulty of getting your point across on the internet about something, and people not being able to latch onto what you're saying when they're reading words and could be in a completely different mood from you, people are bound to fuck up and miscommunicate all the time. That makes me anxious to review more albums and discuss stuff sometimes but I think that this place has kind of encouraged me to break out of my shell a little because I see a lot of people somewhat aware of this fact and willing to try and work their way through it (like asking clarifying questions, admitting fault, focusing on the interesting part: the music!, etc.)
But some people can really be big dicks for sure. I hope you come back at some point, I burn out with social things all the time, especially on the internet, and sometimes I just don't know what to make of things, which compels me to leave. But all things considered I do love this site. |
Snake.
04.22.24 | i mean i might as well come out and say that it's me who's been harassing him since he joined this site
honestly dude, i'm really sorry. none (or at least not all) of my comments towards you were meant to be malicious and if it was making your time on here an absolute chore i would've back off a lot sooner. it's just frustrating seeing people use this site like it's an extension of reddit or something rather than an actual music website where people can utilize the reams of different artists/genres/movements/etc instead of miserly scratching the surface for stuff that is only gonna be grammy-nominated (and this goes for all other types of media consumption). if i scared you off because of my callous behavior and can't bring you back, it's something i just gotta live with and it's only another part of myself that i need to work on. |
Muzz79
04.23.24 | Take it easy dude. Being on here is not worth the stress of being bullied that's for sure. I thnk most ppl have a love/hate relationship with this site |
BAT
04.23.24 | take care of yourself. i've definitely gone through periods of being jaded with any/all communities whether it's discord/yt/reddit/sput/twitter/pretty much anything, i feel like the detachment of face to face socialization leads to a lack of empathy and it's easier to take things poorer where a slight rib in person feels like a straight up attack online. i've definitely had to adjust to taking things less seriously over the years, thaan you'll have some people will just argue anything cause they enjoy the rush of proving a point or purely just to get a rise out of someone/attention. but yeah don't let that energy drag you down/stay true to yourself. |
artiswar
04.23.24 | johnny's not that bad [2] |
budgie
04.23.24 | fartiswar |
budgie
04.23.24 | 5.0 classic
10 Years The Autumn Effect
10 Years Division
10 Years (How to Live) As Ghosts
10 Years Live & Unplugged At The Tennessee Theatre
10 Years Acoustic EP
10 Years Actions & Motives EP
6ix9ine DUMMY BOY
A Pale Horse Named Death Lay My Soul To Waste
A Perfect Circle Mer de Noms
A Perfect Circle Thirteenth Step
A Plea for Purging The Marriage Of Heaven And Hell
AFI Black Sails in the Sunset
AFI Sing the Sorrow
AFI The Art of Drowning
AFI 336
AFI All Hallow's E.P.
After the Burial In Dreams
Agalloch Ashes Against the Grain |
Demon of the Fall
04.23.24 | ""lol this album sucks" is a nice addition to any conversation on a review that probs took the writer a good few hours to put down."
yeah, some users do that incessantly, which as you say adds nothing constructive. An occasional shitpost is fine, but when it's your 'go to' response then you may as well just not saying anything at all
Thread comments aren't always a direct response to the reviewer and (hopefully) aren't taken personally unless the review itself is referenced. It seems unlikely some of these people even read the reviews (I don't always, but will do if I'm interested) |
gabba
04.23.24 | yeah, one shouldn't confuse dissing an album with dissing the review(er)
there's nothing wrong saying the music's shit regardless of whether it received a 4.5 or a 1.5 score, the review itself can still be excellent (see current ones on Swift) |
Spec
04.23.24 | Just sober up and delete this list in the morning. I’ve been there bro. |
Nikkolae
04.23.24 | hey man snake if thats really you that did that I gotta say i commend you for being straight up, at least youre owning up to it.
and yeah it is infuriating that people are sometimes very genuine and try to give their points and give a reasoning for their opinion only for some dickhead to say "its shit" and adds nothing else, I get that none of our input is necessary, but what is the whole point of this site then?
im sorry this has struck a chord with me, been here too damn long at this point lmao |
bloc
04.23.24 | Very unfortunate to read. But it is true, new users definitely face some challenges when first interacting with the site. |
mkmusic1995
04.23.24 | It's no secret that some people on here suck and their contribution is simply to be pervasively snobby about their taste or just to be an unconstructive asshole but those people also add to the aura of this site. I've only been here a couple years, but I feel like the push and pull of the different personalities really makes it fun to be a part of.
That being said, bullying and harassment is bullshit. Wish you best JKing, hope to have you back soon! |
pizzamachine
04.23.24 | Sput is toxic af for sure with an endless supply of people bitching every day. The trick is to not take stuffs personal and just laugh at how dumb people are :3 |
JKing92
07.09.24 | I just want to take a moment to come back and say thank you to everyone who commented. I appreciate the tact and sensitivity showcased here, and I am happy to see this kind of empathy on here, and hope others who may be having a hard time on here can see these kinds of nice words.
And Snake, I am particulary touched with your words. I am happy to see you apologize to me, and I'm glad to see you respond to what I had to say here. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, I deeply admire your ability to empathize with my point of view.
I can't promise I'm back just yet -- I'm still dealing with some issues in my personal life I'd rather not disclose. But I did want to come back and thank everyone who was kind enough to comment here. Thank you, and I hope to be back here eventually. |
zakalwe
07.09.24 | While you’re here.
Green day are shite mate. |
Nikkolae
07.09.24 | hey J, hope everything gets better for you, trust you me when i say this place will always be here, made the conscious decision to not be as active years ago and its been far less taxing |
pizzamachine
07.09.24 | You’re welcome for my gentle tact of calling people dumb |
Hawks
07.09.24 | Shitboy Shitter |
Colton
07.09.24 | how does one get offended by someone mocking your taste on a music forum like come on man |
anode
07.10.24 | How can you not understand that |
efp123
07.10.24 | ^^^ |