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bcl 02.05.18	Apologies for so many of the "test" albums, wanted to include the other nominees using a "film" placeholder instead of a "test" placeholder but it would not work. Of the best picture nominees, I've seen 5 of them, Three Billboards, Dunkirk, Get Out, Darkest Hour and The Post, in my ranked order. Of the other nominees, I've seen Baby Driver, Blade Runner 2049, Logan, The Last Jedi and Victoria & Abdul as well.
neekafat 02.05.18	Pretty sure I'm gonna do a oscar predictions thing if anyone's interested :) I've seen them all except the Post haha I'm procreastinating
Frivolous 02.05.18	phantom thread is moty bois
neekafat 02.05.18	lmao stop
LoLifant 02.05.18	Haven't seen a single one and I'm only interested in Bladerunner. Series are more appealing nowadays.
theacademy 02.05.18	of the ones that ive seen (all of them except the post) 9 is the best
theacademy 02.05.18	(followed closely by three billboards, get out, and ladybird)
Winesburgohio 02.05.18	Phantom Thread is brutally good but you can't easily shoehorn a social movement into it (if i read one more piece that says it's about 'toxic masculinity' is2g) so it wouldn't be an apt pick. extremely seinfeld voice not that there's anything wrong with that!
brainmelter 02.05.18	2 and 6 are immensely overrated 9,10, and 13 are great
ArsMoriendi 02.05.18	Call Me by Your Name is so fucking overrated that if it wins I'll be pissed.
ArsMoriendi 02.05.18	The Shape of Water is beautifully shot and reminiscent of a Disney fantasy. I really liked it.
ArsMoriendi 02.05.18	Get Out was a lot of fun, but I doubt it's worth best picture. Same goes for Baby Driver. Loving Vincent was actually gorgeous as well, but the plot was meh, so if it wins anything it should just be in the visual department. Star Wars: The Last Jedi I'm conflicted with. Haven't seen the rest. Really wanna see Ladybird though. Oh and Phantom Thread I need to see, though it's a boring seeming topic... but it's also Paul Thomas Anderson with Daniel Day Lewis, so it has to be at least decent.
JeetJeet 02.05.18	BR2049 should have gotten a best picture nom. And Good Time getting snubbed is a travesty tbh.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 02.05.18	ya ive seen a couple of these lel
unclereich 02.05.18	Dunkirk>
Clumseee 02.05.18	Phantom Thread MOTY [2]
Ryus 02.07.18	phantom thread is moty bois [3]
Rowan5215 02.07.18	Three Billboards and The Shape of Water both deserve a bunch but as long as fucking Lady Bird doesn't come out on top I'm happy tbh
someguest 02.07.18	Blade Runner 2049 was my favorite film of the year. God, it's a beautiful looking thing. I was one of two people in the world that thought Baby Driver sucked. The soundtrack was out of place and the concept wasn't believable (or cool). Jon Hamm nearly saved it. New Star Wars was Empire Part II. mother! was good the first viewing, but I hated it the second.
GhostB1rd 02.07.18	Dude Lady Bird was so mediocre it hurts my inner Saoirse stan.
Rowan5215 02.07.18	yup 2049 is in an entirely different league to the rest in terms of design and direction. it won't win though because muh sci-fi needs to be action-y and have at least three car chases
Rowan5215 02.07.18	@Ghost Saoirse almost salvaged that over-written heavy-handed tripe, but even she couldn't quite pull it off
GhostB1rd 02.07.18	I went in expecting girl Rushmore and girl Rushmore I didn't get. At all. Laughed scarcely throughout the whole thing and didn't really care much about the characters. Speaking of sci fi Altered Carbon is wew lad bad dialogue in the season opener.
someguest 02.07.18	Not really surprised you guys don't like Lady Bird. It's a girl coming of age story. Isn't that shit supposed to be melodramatic? lmao I haven't seen it yet, but the girlfriend wants to see it.
GhostB1rd 02.07.18	It just jumps from one cliché to another over and over again. It's not particularly funny, not especially moving, and just overall blah.
someguest 02.07.18	It's a coming of age film. Clichés are almost necessary.
GhostB1rd 02.07.18	Fine go see it.
Rowan5215 02.07.18	I would have been ok with it the cliches and melodrama if either were in service of a story that was any good whatsoever. but alas
someguest 02.07.18	as long as "in da club" doesn't play every 30 seconds during the film I'll be OK
Rowan5215 02.07.18	you're fine there, but I hope you like Dave Matthews lmao
someguest 02.07.18	Oh, fuck. Similar to how Eddie Vedder ruined Into The Wild?
Rowan5215 02.07.18	if Eddie hadn't written original songs for Into the Wild and instead they just blasted "Alive" every ten minutes or so, that should give you an idea
bcl 02.07.18	Saw 9 recently, loved it. Would put it between Three Billboards and Dunkirk on my rankings of the Best Picture nominees.
luci 02.07.18	Lady Bird is one of the best movies this decade and Shape of Water is horrendous
Winesburgohio 02.07.18	counterpoint: Shape of Water is insanely good
Rowan5215 02.07.18	^
guitarded_chuck 02.07.18	phantom thread is moty bois [4]
Gyromania 02.07.18	Agreed hard, xeno. I love del toro and it was honestly my most anticipated movie of the year, but it's fucking awful
theacademy 02.07.18	god i love talking movies with you horrendous idiots
theacademy 02.07.18	my movie opinions are not to be questioned!!!
theacademy 02.07.18	ingrid goes west and ladybird were both great!!!
TheSonomaDude 02.07.18	wanted to make this list but im gay
theacademy 02.07.18	shape of water was gorgeous and had likeable characters!
theacademy 02.07.18	also hate to bring a movie thread back to music but desplat crushed it
TheSonomaDude 02.07.18	I've yet to see a few of the BP nominees but Get Out has been my MOTY since it came out in February. I've seen it a few times since and it still holds that #1 spot pretty tight. Two of the biggest snubs were The Big Sick (my #2 OTY) and Wind River (my #5 OTY). Both should've gotten way more attention than they ended up getting.
theacademy 02.07.18	i have seen each of those movies between 23 and 24 times
luci 02.07.18	best oscar surprise was that big sick got a screenplay nom
GhostB1rd 02.08.18	The Big Sick wasn't that good.
GhostB1rd 02.08.18	It was just okay.
GhostB1rd 02.08.18	lol
unclereich 02.08.18	Who you callin a horrendous idiot
TheSonomaDude 02.08.18	still havent seen Shape Of Water but it made my gay friend cry so that is a good sign ;')
luci 02.08.18	That line by the villain about how a man only washes his hand before or after pissing is one of the most faux-profound movie quotes in a while. It should have been disqualified from best screenplay just for that cringe.
JeetJeet 02.08.18	LadyBird might be the whitest movie I've ever seen
matbla00 02.08.18	twasn't the best year for mainstream cinema, unf
GhostB1rd 02.08.18	"LadyBird might be the whitest movie I've ever seen" You bet your black ass it was.
Gyromania 02.08.18	I have several problems with the shape of water. I made a little mini review of sorts in discord that I'll post here: The shape of dogshit is oscar-baiting trash, equipped with a stereotypical loud-mouthed sassy black woman for comic relief and all the other tropes in the book. The dialogue is borderline retarded - the bathroom scene in particular, and the scene where the general responds to 'decency' in the most illogical off-the-cusp approach. In fact, most of the dialogue seems like del toro just said "make your own in the moment - and try to be profound," and that can sometimes be a good thing when the characters aren't one dimensional. Their motivations and actions are all pretty stupid. The heist is a half baked plan; the lead character does stupid shit like flooding her apartment and leaving her kidnapping plans on her calendar for plot convenience; the man she's with only helps her because he got rejected at the diner (which, to be fair, is a cringe masterpiece) and has no one else in his life, seemingly; the fish and girl have a poorly developed relationship that never seems genuine to me; and the entire end sequence is just a fuck up of epic proportions by every character. That guy's progressively worsening, blackening fingers was moronic too. I thought it was going to be some plot device or something, maybe have him totally out of commission and told by a doctor he has blood poisoning because he's an idiot, but instead he rips them off in what I'm assuming was meant to be a display of intimidation, which instead comes across as a display of idiocy. It seems like most people write off these - and many other - problems as "the characters are supposed to be dumb tho" which, like, you can literally justify anything bad using that copout logic. Outside of the lovely cinematography it's a bad movie, with embarrassing dialogue and poorly developed characters, and borders on beastiality tbh
Ryus 02.09.18	dunkirk also is not good tbh
Ryus 02.09.18	phantom thread was the only best movie nominee out of the 6 i saw that truly lived up to my expectations
Trophycase 02.09.18	Call Me By Your Name is clearly the best movie here (disclaimer: I haven't seen phantom thread so I'm talking out of my ass), Lady Bird was great but not best picture worthy this year. Three Billboards was overrated garbage, and I'm a fan of dark comedy. Dunkirk should win sound categories hopefully, and if it doesn't I hope Blade Runner wins, though the sound was a little loud in the mix IMO.
TheSonomaDude 02.09.18	I'm glad to see people aren't going nuts over It not get any noms
luci 02.10.18	I thought Call Me By Your Name was okay while watching it then liked it less and less the more I thought about it. The two leads were snobbish and self-centered, and there was little conflict since the ending was telegraphed from the start (they’ll fall in love and he’ll leave at the end of the summer). It has a chick flick sheen with that poster (looks like The Fault in Our Stars), the swoony feel-good vibe, the avoidance of any notion of gay politics, the coyness when it comes to gay sex. It’s a fluffy romantic reverie that presents an escape from reality. I get what Luca is doing here: he’s presenting a utopian depiction of coming out (empathetic Greek god gently guiding Elio through sex, loving and supportive dad etc.). He created a film about how he wished his teen experience had been. The politics of desire without the sociopolitics. I didn’t get much out of that because I like queer cinema that grapples honestly with the gay experience. Even if you accept the film’s apolitical take (“let’s pretend that gay identity doesn’t exist!”) it’s so shy about gay sex that Luca doesn’t reveal who tops or bottoms. For a film fixated on sensual experiences, that it omits such a key aspect of the libidinal dynamic isn’t excusable. Let’s call it what it is: omission for a straight audience that will swoon over two men prancing around an Italian villa but feel icky about what happens behind closed doors. As for the soundtrack, the Sufjan songs are great on their own but the deployment in the film is heavy-handed. Instead of accompanying the scenes, they arrive with the bluntness of “this is what you should feel here.” And the inclusion of “Futile Devices” was off the mark: that scene drew more power from the song’s strengths than what was happening on-screen. While I did enjoy the cinematography and related to Elio’s sexual awakening, the overall experience was vacant. The film adds nothing to the queer cinema tradition, so let’s stop exalting it as some masterpiece when it’s just a chick flick for the gays.
Kalopsia 02.11.18	people should stop caring about this vapid private industry award show
guitarded_chuck 02.11.18	hard fuck the oscars
Trophycase 02.11.18	Cmon, I mean the Grammys make the Oscars look like the god damn nobel prize
Trebor. 02.11.18	Thread reminds me why I don't talk to most people about movies
Trophycase 02.11.18	But the CMBYN scene in town around the monument or the dancefloor scene were genius, you gotta admit ppl.
bcl 03.03.18	The awards are happening in two days! Feel free to post your award predictions or comment on any of the nominated films that you have not commented on yet.
bcl 03.03.18	As for my predictions: Best Actor: Gary Oldman (hopefully not) Best Actress: Frances McDormand (although Saoirse Ronan and Sally Hawkins could win as well) Best Supporting Actor: Sam Rockwell Best Supporting Actress: Allison Janney Best Director: Guillermo del Toro Best Picture: (in order of likelihood to win) 1) Lady Bird 2) Get Out 3) Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (would've been #1 but I think the backlash might hurt it's chances) 4) The Shape of Water 5) Call Me by Your Name 6) Phantom Thread 7) Dunkirk 8) The Post 9) Darkest Hour
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	Fuck Call Me by Your Name and it's self-important characters, lack of an interesting conflict, unrealistic 80s attitude toward homosexuality, and the worst of it all: its pedophile undertones. I mean an immature for a 17 year old boy falling in love with a mature for a 24 year old man? Ew. I mean the main character is an asshole who thinks he's hot shit because he's talented and the other guy gives creepy backrubs to minors to see if they're "interested." I mean they could've made him an adult by aging him up 1 year. They could've actually make the fact the main characters were bi a real conflict instead of having everyone magically accept them... in the 1980s. At least the peach scene was funny. That's all it has going for it other than that it's well filmed. Anything over that film.
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	"Hey Dad I'm a minor, but the grad student you invited to your summer home to study under you is fucking me." "Oh son, love like that only comes once in a lifetime! I accept it!" Like imagine if everything was kept the same except the lead was a girl. Everyone would be outraged instead of praising it.
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	The Shape of Water was really good. I STILL need to see Ladybird and Phantom Thread. :
neekafat 03.03.18	Fuck you Ars That is all
zaruyache 03.03.18	it's a weirdly different situation of power dynamics when it's two men, though.
JeetJeet 03.03.18	Lmaooo Ars went off.
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	It really isn’t though. Or if it is, it’s still pretty bad. Armie Hammer’s character gave a minor a back rub to see if he was interested... like how can that be interpreted as anything other than super creepy?
Papa Universe 03.03.18	Thank god, I'm not the only one who was weirded the fuck out by a movie about fucking minors. Ugh.
luci 03.03.18	The age of consent in Italy is 16 as it is in many other European countries. Stop viewing cinema through a myopic American lens.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	Mate, the age of consent in Japan is 13, but you're not gonna cheer for a film about fucking 13 year olds, aye?
luci 03.03.18	There are different standards across the world (the consent laws in Japan are more nuanced than what you stated). I don't have an objection with sixteen year old men having sexual relationships with adult men, as long as it isn't predatory. The relationship in CMBYN wasn't predatory (Oliver wasn't manipulative, and seeked consent at all times). That is a more relevant factor than the age difference. Not to mention that calling it "pedophilia" is a blatant misuse of that term (look up the definition please).
Papa Universe 03.03.18	I didn't call it paedophilia and I understand that it's not a great comparison of 17 to 13 year olds, consentual or not. It might be just my old guy perspective, but a minor seduction is still odd and uncomfortable to see. Y'know, just in my view. And because of that I couldn't go through the film without cringing at every turn.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	Warning! This may trigger some serious backlash, but it just keeps spinning in my mind and I need to get it out there: Remember when Milo Yiannopoulos said that he had a relationship with older men, when he was a minor and that it can be beneficial for gay men? (I don't remember how deep into minor age he was, but the point still stands) And I know that that guy is a cunty provocateur, but he did say essentially, superficially, vaguely same thing as the film did. Just sayin'.
luci 03.03.18	Funny enough that was one of the less objectionable things Milo said (I can see his side of the argument). He should have been taken down over all the hate speech rather than those remarks. And I was referring to other people in the discussion who called it "pedophilia," not you.
bcl 03.03.18	Just saw Lady Bird earlier, loved it.
neekafat 03.03.18	Call Me By Your Name is my personal favorite film of the year, so
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	Even if Elio was an adult, Oliver was still pretty creepy toward him, it’s that the fact he wasn’t that made it 1000x creepier. Do you know what grooming is? And who cares about age of consent of Italy? The film purposely chose a hairless twiggy actor that could pass as even younger than 17 if he needed to and then when on to even make him immature for his age. He of course falls in love with a confident mature adult character who seems more apt to a big brother figure than a boyfriend. It’s more than just that Oliver is 7 years older and into a minor, it’s the the whole relationship displays a gross power struggle. Also both characters were Americans in the film visiting Italy (one for his first summer there and the other because he’s some rich shit who can afford to go there every summer) so are you saying if you were in Italy as a 24 year old you’d start giving 16-17 boys backrubs to “see if they’re interested?” I think people are afraid to call a movie about a gay relationship out about this in our modern times. Well I’m gay myself, so I’m not afraid to say that a lot of the movie was just cringe. And in a time where Hollywood is being exposed for doing this shit, it’d probably be smart of this not to give this film too many awards.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	I found that I often tend to dislike these movies about gays, because htey are so obviously pandering to that group and presenting as a selling point. The films of the sort I actually did like are always the ones that don't use the gayness of a character as a main focus, but rather as a frame or means to tell the story. Or at least don't try to become this beacon of LGBT message that wins a bunch of awards and in reality exploits the issue. Call Me By Your Name is a beautifully shot oddity that is purely and only that. Ironically enough, I really liked A Single Man with Colin Firth, even though it might be even more pretentious. But that film is exactly as I mentioned. It might be overly artsy, but it isn't trying to exploit a struggle of a gay man in the 70s, but just focus on a traumatised, tired, ageing character, who happens to be gay. It is merely a tool of telling the story, not the whole substitude for the lack thereof.
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	Good point Universe. Although I did like how the gay character in The Shape of Water was. He was so innocent and good hearted and managed to have more real struggle in his subplot than all of Call Me By Your Name.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	Because the fact that he's gay was not presented as "Look, gay, at this gay character, gay, so very gay. Can you see he's gay? So very gay. Gaaaaaay! Solidarity. Gay solidarity. Gay."
luci 03.03.18	Elio is 17 and he lives in Italy, he is not a minor. Also the whole notion of him magically becoming an adult if he is a year older is ridiculous. You are still struggling as an American to grasp the cultural context and time period at play here.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	I'd honestly (again, old guy speaking) still be weirded out had he been 18 or 19. (not American btw)
luci 03.03.18	My comment was to ArsMoriendi. Would also add that Oliver's interactions with Elio had nothing to do with "child grooming," that's a deliberate misreading.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	I just felt I need to point out that I am not American, just too old (still a weak excuse, but ey, whatcha gona do).
EyesWideShut 03.03.18	Brawl in Cell Block 99 Moty [4] Oscar laff
Papa Universe 03.03.18	[5]
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	I'm gay and 22 and if some 29 year old started giving me an unasked-for sexual backrub while we were in our bathing suits, it'd be VERY uncomfortable and think he's a creep. Yup still creepy.
ArsMoriendi 03.03.18	People think that although straight men can creep on women, that SOMEHOW gay/bi men can't creep on men. It's a ludicrous double standard. Creepy is creepy. I'm just saying that it ends up being worse due to him being 17.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	I'm straight and 42 and if some 29 year old started giving me an unasked-for sexual backrub, whatever the situation, I'd be uncomfortable too.
Papa Universe 03.03.18	29 year olds are just weird, man.
neekafat 03.03.18	"the whole notion of him magically becoming an adult if he is a year older is ridiculous" Also, just watched the Post. Pretty goddamn lame tbh. Now I've watched all nine
Trophycase 03.03.18	You people are way too worked up about the relationship in CMBYN. The movie wasn't good because it was about gay people. It was good because of the acting and direction. It's one of the most visually beautiful movies I've ever seen I don't see anyone getting worked up about the relationship dynamics of The Shape of Water and Sally Hawkins's character taking advantage of a lonely, tortured fish thing. It's just when it's a non hetero relationship everyone freaks the fuck out and gives their Freudian analysis of it like they are some expert
luci 03.03.18	Actually there have been many Shape of Water takes about how the creature is closer to a pet than a consenting partner. If you haven't seen them you haven't been paying attention
SIIMBOLIC 03.03.18	call me by your name will do well cause its about an adult man having sexual relations with a minor hollywood gotta normalise their perverseness
Trophycase 03.04.18	Guess I was too busy watching the movie to read tumblr and salon.com articles
bcl 03.04.18	Awards are happening tonight!
bcl 03.05.18	Best Supporting Actor winner: Sam Rockwell
lastkeymusic 03.05.18	surprises me how little of these i actually care about
bcl 03.05.18	Best makeup and hairstyling winner: Darkest Hour
DrMaximus 03.05.18	Gay
bcl 03.05.18	Best costume design winner: Phantom Thread
ramon. 03.05.18	call me by your name is hella gay haha wut wut
bcl 03.05.18	Best Documentary Feature winner: Icarus
bcl 03.05.18	Best Sound Editing winner: Dunkirk
bcl 03.05.18	Dunkirk wins Sound Mixing as well
bcl 03.05.18	Best Production Design winner: The Shape of Water
bcl 03.05.18	Best Foreign Language film winner: A Fantastic Woman
bcl 03.05.18	Best Supporting Actress winner: Allison Janney
bcl 03.05.18	Best Animated Short winner: Dear Basketball
Asdfp277 03.05.18	we made it bitches!
bcl 03.05.18	Best Animated Feature winner: Coco
Winesburgohio 03.05.18	Sufjan looking resplendent uwu
bcl 03.05.18	Best Visual Effects winner: Blade Runner 2049
bcl 03.05.18	Best Film Editing winner: Dunkirk
bcl 03.05.18	Best Documentary Short Subject winner: Heaven is a Traffic Jam on the 405
bcl 03.05.18	Best Live Action Short Film winner: The Silent Child
MrSirLordGentleman 03.05.18	"we made it bitches!" yay
bcl 03.05.18	Best Adapted Screenplay winner: Call Me by Your Name
bcl 03.05.18	Best Original Screenplay winner: Get Out
bcl 03.05.18	Best Cinematography winner: Blade Runner 2049
Rowan5215 03.05.18	fuck yes Roger Deakins my boi
brainmelter 03.05.18	v nice
JeetJeet 03.05.18	Bout fuckin time they gave Deakins his statue
bcl 03.05.18	Best Original Score winner: The Shape of Water
bcl 03.05.18	Best Original Song winner: Coco
bcl 03.05.18	Best Director winner: The Shape of Water
Trophycase 03.05.18	Awww yeah called the Sound Editing/Mixing categories
bcl 03.05.18	Best Actor winner: Darkest Hour :(
bcl 03.05.18	Best Actress winner: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
luci 03.05.18	the academy is snubbing the young actors. so many thinkpieces being composed rn
bcl 03.05.18	Best Picture winner: The Shape of Water
Slex 03.05.18	Holy shit I am so ecstatic that Del Toro finally got an Oscar
brainmelter 03.05.18	damn shape of water took it
TwigTW 03.05.18	Sorry Sufjan lost