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SharkTooth 02.22.15	2 is 1 but everything 14 and above is good
JamieTwort 02.22.15	1-6 are in a crazy order. 5 and 6 are their best for me.
HappyTheMan12 02.22.15	I generally like The Lamb better than Foxtrot, but I can see how someone would think otherwise. What stops me from putting Foxtrot over it was that apart from Supper's Ready, Watcher of the Skies and Get 'Em Out by Friday, the other three songs aren't really as good. The Lamb on the other hand, had a lot of amazing tracks, admittedly with some feeling in the middle, but for a concept album it has a lot more hits than misses, which is kind of rare. Both are really good albums, though.
JokineAugustus 02.22.15	15 is underrated. Foxtrot is 1, lamb is 2, selling is 3.
ButteryBiscuitBass 02.22.15	Lol Duke @ 4
BMDrummer 02.22.15	5 and 6 behind duke noooooooooooooooo
HappyTheMan12 02.22.15	Duke is pretty underrated imo, but it was my first Genesis album so I guess I'm sort of a suspect when I talk about it.
ButteryBiscuitBass 02.22.15	I wouldn't say Duke is underrated at all (look at its average rating), it just isn't held in the same light as the run from Nursery Cryme to TLLDOB, and rightly so.
HappyTheMan12 02.22.15	I was saying that because people generally lump Duke together with Abacab and the other typical pop Genesis records from the 80s, in my point of view it was kinda poppy at times, but it was the last real prog record they put out before going downhill. And even the pop tracks there are much better than the ones in Abacab or Invisible Touch, I take Turn it On Again over Who Dunnit any day. Maybe I just hold Duke in a higher regard because it was the album that got me into Genesis, but there's also the fact that I like Nursery Cryme better than Foxtrot and TLLDOB, so I may just be "that guy".
JamieTwort 02.22.15	I agree that The Lamb is better than Foxtrot but Foxtrot is still their second best.
Jethro42 02.22.15	6, 5, 2, 1, 3, 7, 4, 8, 10, 9, 13, 11, 12, 15, 14
Torontonian 02.22.15	7 is a zillion times better than 4 imo
Torontonian 02.22.15	Is 15 rly that bad? Never heard it.
HappyTheMan12 02.22.15	FGTR isn't horrible, but I never found anything memorable abut it, I just put Calling All Stations above it because at least there's the title track, which is the only track I remember and sort of enjoy from that album.
Jethro42 02.22.15	@Torontonian, I have it as a 3. It has cool songs and bad songs, but it's Worth a listen. Collins and Hackett were not there yet. Production was rather mediocre. Herer you can find my song ranking. http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/46949/Genesis-From-Genesis-to-Revelation/
420Itchy69 02.22.15	epic
Snake. 02.22.15	rank deftones next
Snowdog808 02.22.15	2, 3, and 6 make up my top 3, and 9, 11, and 14 make up my bottom 3.
HappyTheMan12 02.22.15	The self-titled is probably the only post-Duke Genesis album I like, the A-Side is great and the B-Side isn't as good, but decent enough. Mama, Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea, That's All and Just a Job To Do are among my favorite Genesis pop tunes. I wanted to like We Can't Dance as well, it has quite a strong start with No Son of Mine, Jesus He Knows Me and Driving The Last Spike, but then it's a load of crappy filler you have to sit through just to get to other good tracks like Dreaming While You Sleep, Living Forever and Fading Lights. I still prefer it over Invisible Touch and Abacab just because of these specific tracks, but it's a pretty "bleh" record. @SnakeDelilah I'll do it soon enough.
mindleviticus 02.22.15	6 is 1
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	I updated the list with some actual descriptions, felt that the original thing was kind of bland.
ZombicidalMan 02.23.15	horizons is a killer track, idk what else to say
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	Horizons is nice, but normally when I listen to Foxtrot I skip it, probably because it's the track that comes before Supper's Ready.
gagnonov 02.23.15	1. Selling England By The Pound 2. Foxtrot 3. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 4. A Trick Of The Tail 5. Trespass 6. Nursery Cryme 7. Wind & Wuthering 8. And Then There Were Three 9-15. Who gives a shit
DamnVanne 02.23.15	Dude u got a big problem. Invisible Touch is WAAAYYY better than We cant fucking dance. Land of Confusion, The Brazilian, title, and whatever that closing keyboard extravanganza be VS driving the last spike is the only song phil collins didnt thoroughly bring the gay parts
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	We Can't Dance's biggest problem is the ridiculous abundance of filler stuff, take that out and leave this tracklist: 1- No Son of Mine 2- Jesus He Knows Me 3- Driving The Last Spike 4- Dreaming While You Sleep 5- Living Forever 6- Fading Lights It would still be lengthy enough to be a full album on its own and would probably be a lot better than what it ended up being. I don't get this feeling with Invisible Touch, it has less tracks and I think almost all of them besides Land of Confusion and Tonight Tonight Tonight blow.
DamnVanne 02.23.15	oh man i forgot about fading lights. ok BOTH have great closing keyboard sections. but I'll be damned if Invisible Touch has any filler
JamieTwort 02.23.15	Horizons is one of the best guitar instrumentals ever composed.
TheSpaceMan 02.23.15	I really need to try to get into this band
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	@DamnVanne Invisible Touch doesn't have as much filler, but on the other hand the main material never impressed me all that much. We Can't Dance had loads of filler but I think its stand-out tracks are far better than Invisible Touch's, they just had the misfortune of having shitloads of filler between them. @JamieTwort After the Ordeal was the best Gabriel-era instrumental imo. @TheSpaceMan I'd recommend Selling England by The Pound to someone who isn't into Genesis, it's fairly accessible and also shows what the band is about. (or at least was in the 70s)
Jethro42 02.23.15	The worst track from SEbtP is ''More Fool Me''. Battle rules instrumentally and it has the most theatrical vocals of the album. For Trespass, Visions of Angels is a cool track with pastoral sounding, yet powerful. Imo, Dusk is the weakest track for being not developed enough, or Stagnation for the same reason. Song is too much linear. For And then there were three, I agree with you except for Follow you Follow me. I'd say Ballad of Big for the worst song. Annnd I'm another of these Horizon's lover.
Jethro42 02.23.15	*Songs are too much linear (especially Stagnation).
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	Damn, I completely forgot about More Fool Me, it's the Selling England song I tend to skip because it's boring in comparison to the rest of the album. Thanks for reminding me, I'm going to edit and put More Fool Me there. From Trespass, Stagnation's build up and the breakdown at the end made it feel like a predecessor to The Musical Box, and Dusk gets me because I was always a sucker for folky acoustic numbers, despite me just claiming I'm not much into More Fool Me, but it's mostly because Dusk gets the execution better and isn't as repetitive. Also Dusk and Stagnation have some of my favorite Peter Gabriel lyrics to date, so that did contribute to me favoring them as well. As for ATTWT, I like Ballad of Big, it has a funky feel to it and Collins' drumming is quite energetic, better than Deep in The Motherlode imo. If I would get a song for least favorite aside from Follow You Follow Me, it's Scenes From a Night's Dream, never clicked me much.
Jethro42 02.23.15	Yeah, agreed, ''Scenes from a night's dream'' has to be the worst. ''Ballad of big'' is better than I thought. No love for ''Me and Sarah Jane'' from Abacab? For The Lamb, I don't agree ''Hairless Heart'' would be among the worst, at the contrary. It would be ''Ravine'' for me. No, there is absolutely no worse song in fact :)
menawati 02.23.15	weird choice for 1st spot but nice list, entangled is wonderful song
JS19 02.23.15	This is a great list but: Horizons is bad? no
JS19 02.23.15	Also someone else who thinks Duke is amazing awesome! Heathaze is wow
HappyTheMan12 02.23.15	@Jethro42 Never paid much attention to Ravine now that I'm thinking about it, the same goes for Me And Sarah Jane, but that's because I don't listen to Abacab much frequently. @menawati I figured it would sound weird to put ATOTT first, but that's really the one Genesis record I think has no considerably weaker moments, it was a fresh take on their trademark prog sound and even the albums they made after it didn't have the same feeling. Selling England is a very close second, apart from More Fool Me which I find meh, I get goosebumps from every single of the other songs, the highlights of both ATOTT and SEBTP are equally amazing to me. @JS19 I never said Horizons is bad, just my least favorite Foxtrot track, but it's still pretty good as far as Genesis instrumentals go. Good thing I'm not the only one who loves Duke here, Behind the Lines, Duchess, Heathaze, Turn it on Again, Cul de Sac and Duke's Travels/End are all fantastic tunes, and I even get a kick of the other poppier tracks as well despite finding them inferior to the aforementioned ones.
Jethro42 02.24.15	I find the list pretty well done and overall quite accurate. We have something in common; We both love to the bone the best band of the world. And you're right with everything you said about Duke. I have it at a 4.5/5
zakalwe 02.24.15	Have these always been your fave band Jethro?
Jethro42 02.24.15	Yeah I grew up with them since the late seventies. I love the other classic prog bands just as much I have to say. I'm still progging hard nowadays as you know it, I think.
zakalwe 02.24.15	Cool. I don't know why they don't do it for me. There's just something there that doesn't sit right with me.
Jethro42 02.24.15	If you don't like this piece of art (a rather poor quality bootleg but it's the only one I've found; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9U358JawGc If you don't like it, Genesis is definitely not for you.
HappyTheMan12 02.24.15	I didn't grow up with Genesis, but I did grow up with some of Phil Collins' solo work, mostly stuff from his first three or four solo albums and the music he made for Tazan. The first Genesis album I gave a shot was Duke back in 2007 with all the ruckus about the Turn it on Again Tour and the remastered boxes, Duke was actually one of my all-time favorite records back then. Duke convinced me to listen to Genesis' entire discography, then I discovered that before Phil Collins, the band was fronted by Peter Gabriel, the "Sledgehammer guy", and his Genesis albums were mostly quite good, very different from the impression Sledgehammer gave me. Then I discovered Collins himself would only join the band in their third album as a drummer, and I went on until Calling All Stations and the extra tracks, it was great regardless of me thinking their post-Duke albums were mostly hit and miss. This opened my mind in a handful of ways, I checked Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett's solo stuff, and went on to listen to other prog rock bands such as Yes, King Crimson, Kansas and Pink Floyd. I still like Genesis better than these, but I'll admit it's an acquired taste, especially Gabriel-era Genesis.