melnadaiid
06.30.15 | just seeing c++ makes me want to drive a railroad spike into my head oh my god is that shit bad |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | WOah WOah WOah. C++ is literally the best |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | it blows so fucking much and this course is 8 goddamn weeks. im in week 2. |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | dude just be happy its not Java... |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | dude i just wanna go back to html and css haha. or even better using some 3d modeling and ignoring coding period |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | and seriously listen to Girlfriends this shit is amazing |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | html is barely coding so i can understand why you'd find C hard. you'd probably like a lot of the low level declarative languages that come with databases. |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | i dont even like html dude. |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | hahahaha. C gets easier with practice though i promise |
Judio!
06.30.15 | Stop being so ungrateful I'd usually kill for a C. |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | p sure this is the last coding class i need. im praying it is |
CK
06.30.15 | C++ is tolerable. It's Perl and Java I hate... |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.30.15 | C++ is what I learned in school and it was pretty nice |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | Agree with CK that Java is fucking horrible |
Memoryplague
06.30.15 | i have to take java soon D:
you guys are making me scared.
mysql is what im taking this summer and its easy as fuck. database > coding. |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | i'm doing SQL at the moment and its ridiculously easy |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | Java IS fucking horrible. I don't know how any sane rational person can work with fucking Java. I don't know how the developers of Runescape didn't just bail on the project because of Java.
C# is practically the same style language as Java and it's milestones better.
C++ is a gift from god though. So much better than any other programming language and you can do pretty much anything you want with it.
What really gets me mad is why most companies still use PHP for their sites. USE ANGULARJS YOU SQUARES |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | Sql is simple since most companies will hire you if you know basic relational databases and CRUD standards of mysql to vb/c# or php integration |
BandNewbac
06.30.15 | Yeah agree hard C++ is the best |
Feather
06.30.15 | C++ is what I had to learn my freshmen year. I was decent at it, but it took up a lot of my time.
Has anyone here worked with matlab, I had to work with that as well and it is like a watered down C++ that is better at doing matrices and math. |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.30.15 | I fucking hate using matlab
Mostly because my professors just assume we are professionals at it without ever having a class on it |
owen
06.30.15 | be glad you're not forced to use java for over 6 months in college |
danielito19
06.30.15 | there's a difference between java and javascript y'all |
beefshoes
06.30.15 | Isn't computer language just math in disguise? |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | matlab sucks but it has one of the best GUI's you'll ever work with in medical fields. |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | computer language IS math |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | and it sucks. math sucks |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | no you're just dumb ;] |
TheSpaceMan
06.30.15 | matlab is way easier than c++ anyone who thinks otherwise just doesnt have their math basics down
c++ is way more advanced but has much wider uses, the syntax is just what kills it for me. matlab is basically just a calculator function. either way I fucking hate computer science |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | html is easy, php is fucking bullshit |
rufinthefury
06.30.15 | i wont deny that i am absolutely shit at math i have been since 5th grade. being bad at it allows me to hate it. not mutually exclusive :D
i barely passed my calc I class last semester holy shit i seriously thought i was gonna be retaking that bitch |
ShadowRemains
06.30.15 | python |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | python is a baby language.
only use it for web crawling |
Cygnatti
06.30.15 | i'm trying to get into computer programming... (possibly switching majors into it...)
but i have no clue what you guys are talking about... x_x |
Cygnatti
06.30.15 | haven't decided if i'd want to work computer programming/video games as a career.
however at the very least, i wanna learn programming just so i can hack pokemon games, and make rpgs on rpg maker (uses a form of ruby i believe) |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | coding in english sounds a bit farfetch'd don't you think? but yeah it's a super easy language to learn
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Cygnatti
06.30.15 | it really does actually. |
dcalderon
06.30.15 | C++ is so flexible it's beautiful. What's wrong with Java though? |
mindleviticus
06.30.15 | Java is pointless and should become obsolete soon. It's a very limited object oriented language with a terrible GUI that C# completely puts to shame. |
dcalderon
07.01.15 | If you develop mostly web apps or mobile apps, GUI doesn't matter ;). I agree though, that C# has a much better GUI but that's mostly because it's completely tied to Windows. |
mindleviticus
07.01.15 | Only thing I can say that's good about Java that isn't the same as C# is enums. |
rufinthefury
07.01.15 | if my proff wasnt long distance i bet i could learn this shit easier |
someguest
07.01.15 | I hate you all so much. |
melnadaiid
07.01.15 | good no one cares about someguest |
someguest
07.01.15 | AND NO ONE CARESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
mindleviticus
07.01.15 | i was waiting for someone to say that |
silentstar
07.01.15 | "java is pointless and should become obsolete soon. It's a very limited object oriented language with a terrible GUI that C# completely puts to shame"
lol gtfo
Java is the primary language used at the enterprise level programming (aka where jobs and $$$ are at) - it isn't only used to build apps and games
holy shit the ignorance in this thread i'm done
are there any actual computer science majors here |
rufinthefury
07.01.15 | no im computer graphics technology i dont even fucking like coding i just use photoshop and autocad shit jesus |
mindleviticus
07.01.15 | mainly due to my dissatisfaction working with java compared to other and better programming languages |
silentstar
07.01.15 | K
just because it didn't serve your purposes building shitty games doesn't mean it should be obsolete
typical scrub logic
here's a wikipedia link (lol) to educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_languages_used_in_most_popular_websites
Java is used everywhere for backend because of its performance and stability |
TheSpaceMan
07.01.15 | do CS majors take calc classes? |
rufinthefury
07.01.15 | yeah dude yeah of course they do
and calc blows |
TheSpaceMan
07.01.15 | what do you mean "of course"... I'm not seeing how calc would be useful in coding. enlighten me? |
TheSpaceMan
07.01.15 | like I understand if its to teach problem solving skills and act as a cut off for mathematical comprehension, but like I said it doesnt seem like a necessity |
silentstar
07.01.15 | i think you just answered your own question - any respectable STEM degree should teach a couple calculus courses because while admittedly you won't run across calculus in your work, it provides you with the mathematical maturity to understand what is happening in higher level concepts (big-O notation which is a foundational computational concept uses limits, for example)
calculus is also used to prove a lot of theories in linear algebra and statistics (which are used on the reg. in comp sci) when needing to find the maximum/minimum of an expression (for example, in statistics, finding the least squares estimator - statistics is used in data science, AI and machine learning btw, emerging fields that will only get bigger)
outside of theoretical uses, calculus is used a lot in system modelling and numerical analysis.
just because you won't be doing integrals while coding doesn't mean it's not necessary
also, computer science != programming - computer science is about computation (i.e. a subset of mathematics), programming is simply a tool that implements the theory for practical purposes
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idontcareaboutthis
07.01.15 | all you people are complaining about java and i'm sitting here with a smile on my face cuz it was the first language i learned |
TheSpaceMan
07.01.15 | yeah that makes a lot of sense silentstar, I guess I agree with you that any STEM worth its while should teach calc, just never really thought about it until now.
"when needing to find the maximum/minimum of an expression (for example, in statistics, finding the least squares estimator - statistics is used in data science, AI and machine learning btw, emerging fields that will only get bigger)"
this espicially sits well with me, setting the derivitive of a function equal to zero to solve for mins and maxes is one of the most common applications of calculus.
I hope I didnt sound ignorant on the subject I didnt major in CS, was truly curious if you guys take calculus courses and the answer "of course" just left more questions for me, like I was missing something obvious lol. I'm a mechanical engineer that picked up a minor in math so not only have I taken practically all of the bachelor level calculus classes but I've used a lot of their applications extensively |
dcalderon
07.01.15 | "Only thing I can say that's good about Java that isn't the same as C# is enums."
You are not even gonna mention the fact that C# apps only work in Windows OS? |
osmark86
07.01.15 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/610199/the-art-of-programming-java-vs-c-sharp |
Sabrutin
07.01.15 | So much hate for Java. : ( |
JWT155
07.01.15 | I passed C++ without having to do shit, group projects and I latched on like leach to the nerdiest Indian dude who had all the projects finished in 30 mins. Only stipulation was he wanted me to introduce him to some of the chicks in the class. |
JizzInMyPants
07.01.15 | Man, the people trashing java in the comments section must not be in the field. Java will last a long ass time. |
mindleviticus
07.01.15 | "You are not even gonna mention the fact that C# apps only work in Windows OS?"
The Xamarin Platform is pretty expansive and allows you to create apps for mac osx in C# as well as windows |
silentstar
07.01.15 | "Man, the people trashing java in the comments section must not be in the field. Java will last a long ass time."
lol seriously man it's like all these sputnik kids think programming is used for games and apps - they need to step outside the house for once
everything runs on programming and Java is used extensively in fields like finance, healthcare, insurance, research, website servers/back-end etc. |
dcalderon
07.01.15 | Java hate in this thread is positively Sputnikian. Just people trying to sound cool |
dcalderon
07.01.15 | "The Xamarin Platform is pretty expansive and allows you to create apps for mac osx in C# as well as windows"
Both are paid software, which is the main reason most bussiness choose Java over C# for portable solutions |