mandan: Jimmy Carter Or Ronald Reagan?

NotSoFast 03.20.12	Ronald Reagan.
Killerhit 03.20.12	I don't care.
macadoolahicky 03.20.12	Devin Townsend.
NotSoFast 03.20.12	Ross Perot.
Crysis 03.20.12	http://youtu.be/ISn14xOGqn4
Trebor. 03.20.12	Reagan was one of the worst but he influenced some of the best music
Killerhit 03.20.12	Geddy Lee
Killerhit 03.20.12	No wait, Chris Cornell.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Both were bad but Reagan is arguably the worst president we have ever had
Relinquished 03.20.12	both are bad
NotSoFast 03.20.12	'Both were bad but Reagan is arguably the worst president we have ever had' Well I mean he was a celebrity president.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Yeah he was pretty shitty
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Reaganomics is pretty much the thing that destroyed this country
JWT155 03.20.12	Ummm he ended the Cold War without firing a shot
Killerhit 03.20.12	Yeah whatever
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"Ummm he ended the Cold War without firing a shot" and gave aid to muslim extremists. Gave huge tax cuts to anyone with an income of 250k or more and increased taxes for the middle class
JWT155 03.20.12	Carter did appoint Paul Volker as FED Chairman so I'll give him that.
macadoolahicky 03.20.12	You see dannyboy, this is why we can't have nice things.
Trebor. 03.20.12	The cold war was basically over anyway
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	Reagan all day every day
Emim 03.20.12	"Reagan all day every day" ^^^ carter was the fucking worst
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	1. He started deficit spending. 2. He tried to roll back safety regulations in the workplace. 3. His tax cuts helped the rich. 4. He sold to weapons to Iran and used the money to support terrorists. 5. Continued a long american president tradition of propping up brutal dictatorships around the world. 6. He was Racist. 7. He was a corporate tool
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	you people are stupid
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	are you left-leaning or something aphrodisiac
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever.
Trebor. 03.20.12	The archetype for everything that is wrong in America He wanted christian prayer in public school too What a fucking cunt
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Well I just tend to use facts when determining something like this. Doesn't have much to do where I fall in the spectrum.
Relinquished 03.20.12	so I was listening to Meshuggah the other day
Trebor. 03.20.12	At least Nixon started the EPA
JWT155 03.20.12	Don't forget, Reagan pretty much caused genocide in Guatemala.
Trebor. 03.20.12	Uses facts and science and stuff in arguments oh you must be a liberal
NotSoFast 03.20.12	Does anyone want to give me a back massage?
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	fuckin tree huggin hippies all of em, the founding fathers fought for my right to bear automatic weapons
JWT155 03.20.12	Honestly, you're a fucking idiot if you have your ideals lined-up with only one ideology, conservative, liberal, whatever.
Trebor. 03.20.12	I think everyone has the right to bear 18th century arms like muskets
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	truth @JWT
NotSoFast 03.20.12	JWT gets it.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Reagan's presidency was similar to the dark ages. All progress of our nation halted.
JWT155 03.20.12	The Dark Ages... Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
TooLateToGoBack 03.20.12	Fuck Reagan. Dude was absolutely awful and helped in no way whatsoever.
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	oh dear god
Trebor. 03.20.12	I'll have no part in American neo conservatism thank you
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Before Reagan, corporate CEOs earned less than 50 times the salary of an average worker. By the end of the Reagan-Bush-I administrations in 1993, the average CEO salary was more than 100 times that of a typical worker. (At the end of the Bush-II administration, that CEO-salary figure was more than 250 times that of an average worker.)
JWT155 03.20.12	Cool story bro, so because CEO's made more money the world fucking sucked. Cry me a fucking river.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Are you honestly that stupid
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	no one can really be that dumb, right?
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	my mind is going to melt down
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	jwt i feel sorry for you
Ignimbrite 03.20.12	yeah, basically if you have money you are an indefensibly evil human being didn't you know, you evil ignorant neocon
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"Cool story bro" -Intelligent people
Shuyin 03.20.12	George Fisher
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"yeah, basically if you have money you are an indefensibly evil human being" hey let's all miss the point completely
Trebor. 03.20.12	Having money does not equal fucking over your employees and the economy
JWT155 03.20.12	Obviously you missed my condescending use of "Cool story bro" in the first place
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	Not only was it a sign that they were paying barely any taxes(hey lets dig ourselves into a deeper hole), but it's a sign that the workers, the people that were enabling these ceo's, weren't making shit. Barely enough to survive. But I guess that's a good thing.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"Obviously you missed my condescending use of "Cool story bro" in the first play" So memes=intelligence?
JWT155 03.20.12	It's cool Aphrodisiac, keep propping up Carter like he's Jesus and yanking Ronald Reagan down like he's Satan cause the world is definitely black and white... and the word condescending was around before memes but it's cute that's how you know the word.
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	I haven't said a single thing about Carter you fucking retard. Learn how to read
Trebor. 03.20.12	Carter sucked balls too, just not nearly as much
JWT155 03.20.12	Oh shit, so you didn't. MY BAD.
KILL 03.20.12	obama 08
Trebor. 03.20.12	Gore 00 Get a time machine and fix all of our problems
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"It's all about money, not freedom. You think you're free? Try going somewhere without money." -Bill Hicks
KILL 03.20.12	good old bill
Athom 03.20.12	The Soviet Union was already on its last legs before Reagan. He just moved the clock over a couple minutes. Carter wasn't that great either. This is a really odd choice because while Carter is a great human being he wasn't all that effective of a commander in chief, Reagan is now this super right demigod when even though he championed trickle down economics and was a rather corrupt and shady figure, he donated heavily to Planned Parenthood, championed women's rights, and signed one of the first gay rights bills as a governor. I don't really like either as presidents.
paxman 03.20.12	Hey let's compare two random presidents for no reason
Recspecs 03.20.12	Someone take the keyboard away from Aphrodisiac. Jimmy Carter reppin Georgia m/
Emim 03.20.12	only if you want to FUCKING LOSE
TheZehan 03.20.12	Regan
MO 03.20.12	Haake
TheZehan 03.20.12	Yeah, he was. One of the best ever. Up there with Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Dwight Eisenhower, FDR, and I'l throw JFK in there (to please you liberals).
TheZehan 03.20.12	Well I agree with the majority of the policies I've known he's done. I don't now much about him, but my Liberal SS teacher likes him a lot and says he's the one good Conservative pres. Ever.
Maniac! 03.20.12	I like ike
TheZehan 03.20.12	yep, and I'm from Georgia (so you'd assume I'd like Jimmy), but I don't. I believe he had good intentions (or at least better than most liberals, in my opinion), but I don't think he worked out well.
Maniac! 03.20.12	" I don't now much about him, but my Liberal SS teacher likes him a lot and says he's the one good Conservative pres. Ever." There you go again, regurgitating other people's opinions as your own without studying them first.
TheZehan 03.20.12	Truman was another good liberal one too. I'd consider him a level below the guys mentioned above
TheZehan 03.20.12	Here, mania, give me a min, and I'll read up on him and tell ya what I like and don't like.
Maniac! 03.20.12	"Here, mania, give me a min, and I'll read up on him and tell ya what I like and don't like." slams head on desk repeatedly
TheZehan 03.20.12	Here's what I found. Positives: decreased inflation, decreased unemployment, tax cut (you should like those, those of you who pay taxes), He was against terrorism (said we'd never negotiate with terrorists), in 1983, he led the US in an invasion of Grenada and rescued threatened/captured Americans, He greatly increased relations between the US and the Soviet Union (this led to their downfall in the 90's under George Bush Sr.). Negatives: Increased the US budget deficit, lot's of terrorist attacks happened (not Regan's fault), and he was attempted to be assassinated right after election (again, not his fault). Much more positives than Negatives. The big one is he was a crucial factor in ending the cold war.
Maniac! 03.20.12	HEY GUYS I DID 5 MINUTES OF RESEARCH AND IT'S OBVIOUS REAGAN WAS AWESOME!!!1111231213151111!!!!
TheZehan 03.20.12	Are my points wrong? (I always love your comebacks Sonic)
TheZehan 03.20.12	so helping to end a war, lowing inflation, saving americans, and lowering taxes are all bad things? I'm sure you'd be much happier if the cold war was still goin on right?
TheZehan 03.20.12	http://americanhistory.about.com/od/ronaldreagan/p/preagan.htm
TheZehan 03.20.12	Sonic, that's called denial. You say Christians are closed minded!? I have nothing more to say to you if you can't accept a website I just found and does exist as a source. It's not Wikipedia either. I'm sure the site says great things about Obama and JFK.
mandan 03.20.12	Loool, out of all my lists, this is the one with the most responses. I really dislike the Reagan years. I think Carter was an okay president, but unable to accomplish most of his goals. I think he did the best he could. Reagan, well, I guess Aphrodisiac more or less summed up what I would say about him.
TheFonz123 03.20.12	reagens policys are on of the reasons that triggered our economic troubles right now. its not often acknoledged, but the direction he put our country in really destroyered our economic stability. also jimmy carter is so underated, when he was president NO ONE gave him any respect. although he was pretty good, he was considered a joke by the public until years after he was out of office
UnnamedOcean 03.20.12	"I'm sure you'd be much happier if the cold war was still goin on right?" Lol Reagan did not end the cold war.
Inveigh 03.20.12	yeah neither of these presidents were very good, but neither is as bad as the other side makes them out to be however, lol'd at this: ""It's all about money, not freedom. You think you're free? Try going somewhere without money." -Bill Hicks" hope you weren't actually using that as some legitimate kind of point, because that's a retarded statement if used for anything other than comedy
Mickeymau5 03.20.12
Mickeymau5 03.20.12	When Carter took office in 1977, the inflation rate was 5.22%. Four years later it was 11.83% and during his presidency it actually hit as high as 14.78%! Our current inflation rate is 2.87%. http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/HistoricalInflation.aspx?dsInflation_currentPage=2 The cost of living adjustments (COLA) when Carter took office was 5.9%. Three years later it was 14.3%. Our COLA for January 2012 is 3.6%. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/cola/automatic-cola.htm When Carter took office in January of 1977, interest rates were 6.25% When left left office four years later they were 20.00%! Right now, our interest rates are 3.25%. http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp Can you imagine how difficult it was back then to try to buy a house with interest rates that high? It really was awful. The Iran hostage situation was so embarrassing. It was horrible to have to wait in a long line just to get gas. Gas was rationed during his presidency. I hope to never live through a time like that again.
Maniac! 03.20.12	"Sonic, that's called denial. You say Christians are closed minded!? I have nothing more to say to you if you can't accept a website I just found and does exist as a source. It's not Wikipedia either. I'm sure the site says great things about Obama and JFK." How fucking blind are you that you can't recognize when someone is trolling you? Holy fucking fuckity fuck fuck, you are stupid as shit.
eternium 03.20.12	Pretty much everything bad that happened during Carter's presidency he had no control over.
jdennis31 03.20.12	thezehan is my muse.
Inveigh 03.20.12	I generally lean left on most things, but hardcore liberals piss me off just as much as conservatives I usually challenge liberals to name one bad liberal president and why. Usually they can't, unless they go with Carter, but even then it's qualified that the bad things that happened weren't his fault. no dems fault
Inveigh 03.20.12	eternium that wasn't directed at you really, but your comment did remind me of it
Maniac! 03.20.12	I generally lean left on most things, but hardcore liberals piss me off just as much as conservatives [2]
someguest 03.20.12	"Well I mean he was a celebrity president." so he was like the pre-obama then
Aphrodisiac 03.20.12	"so helping to end a war, lowing inflation, saving americans, and lowering taxes are all bad things?" you are downright stupid. He raised taxes like hell for poor people and lowered them for the rich. The cold war was over in the 70's.
TheZehan 03.20.12	First of all, I was joking bout the cold war. He did greatly improve relations with the Soviets leader (I don't know his name) and I used the source I found for my facts. I said under my initial negatives is he massively increased the nations spending debt. Look back in the thread, that was there. Aphro, he made taxes EQUAL. It's a PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU MAKE! Rich people pay much more on taxes, but they have more money which makes up for it. Poor people pay less taxes, but they have less money. It's all an even proportion. Learn some math.
J0ckstrapsFTW 03.20.12	Reagan hands fucking down
Inveigh 03.20.12	"Aphro, he made taxes EQUAL. It's a PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU MAKE! Rich people pay much more on taxes, but they have more money which makes up for it. Poor people pay less taxes, but they have less money. It's all an even proportion. Learn some math." I don't think you understand taxation in the U.S. at all
TheZehan 03.20.12	Here's how taxes work. If you make at least a 1000 dollars (I believe, it's somewhere around there) a year, the government takes a portion of your paycheck. It's the same for every person. If I make 1000 (lets say they take 50%, just to use easy numbers), I get $500 the government gets $500. If I make $10,000,000 (ten million), I get 5 mil, the gov gets 5 mil. It's like tithing at church. The rich earn their money and have a right to a fare share, just as the poor.
Inveigh 03.20.12	yeah that's not how it works
TheZehan 03.20.12	How does it work, then. I watch my dad balance the checkbook and do taxes every year because he wants me know money. I'm curious to hear/read your opinion
Inveigh 03.20.12	ok can't tell if you're trolling or not, but I'll just play along anyways. the U.S. uses a progressive tax, which means you're going to fall into something called a tax bracket depending on how much you earn every year. people who make between $34,500 and $83,600 annually get taxed by the federal government at a rate of 25%. If you make more than $83,600 but less than $174,400 you get taxed at 28%. If you make less than $34,500 then you get taxed at 15%. This is just an example of federal income tax, it doesn't include Social Security, Medicare, state income taxes or any other payroll deductions like retirement savings plans, flexible spending accounts, per diem, etc. there are also all kinds of deductions that can change your taxable income level. Hence how Mitt Romney only paid 15% in taxes last year but earned enough to place him in the 35% tax bracket.
Inveigh 03.20.12	that's how you feed a troll, fellas
TheZehan 03.20.12	Ok, thanks for the enlightenment. First of all Romney cheated the system, but lots of rich people (ie. my Grandpa is decently wealthy, but pays his taxes in full). Poor people complain about all the money rich people have, and would rather live off food stamps and completely cheat the system. You're right about Romney, but it's a stereotype that all rich people are like that. My dad pays his 25%/28% (not sure which) every year.
jdennis31 03.20.12	lol.
jdennis31 03.20.12	romney didn't "cheat" the system, he merely used it.
jdennis31 03.20.12	correct me if i'm wrong
TheZehan 03.20.12	I'm not really sure. All I know is the system is much fairer than everyone says. Rich People (ie. Bill Gates) pay taxes and donate millions to charities. Then poor people complain that they aren't rich as well. Occupy Wall Street absolutely disgusts me.
Maniac! 03.20.12	"I watch my dad balance the checkbook and do taxes every year because he wants me know money. I'm curious to hear/read your opinion" OH MY FUCKING HEAD THE STUPIDITY. I AM CRYING AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	The US may be differnt to usual progressive taxes Inveigh (making this post pointless) or maybe you just missed this out which you knew, but progressive taxes means that you pay (going on your given US rates) 15% on the money you earn under $34,500 and then 25% on the $49,100 you earn between $34,500 and $83,600 etc. not just 25% if you earn between $34,500 and $83,600.
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	"Poor people complain about all the money rich people have, and would rather live off food stamps and completely cheat the system. You're right about Romney, but it's a stereotype that all rich people are like that." yeah you wouldn't want to stereotype people :P
Inveigh 03.20.12	"romney didn't "cheat" the system, he merely used it." right. Republicans favor a system that gives the highest earners the ability to be taxed like those in lower brackets -- they're called "tax breaks." the chicken vs the egg argument comes in the form of "who deserves tax breaks more, the rich or the middle class/poor?" Conservatives argue that the rich deserve them more because they're obviously smarter and work harder, and they'll use the extra money to invest in business and create jobs. Liberals argue that the middle class and poor deserve them more because they haven't had the same opportunities at wealth that the rich have, though they often work just as hard. They also believe putting more money in middle class consumers' pockets will drive spending and create demand, therefore increasing the need for business/job growth. I tend to favor the middle class, but that's likely because it's the tax bracket I fall into.
jdennis31 03.20.12	@thumbcrusher ? he mentioned those i think? unless i'm not understanding your post
Inveigh 03.20.12	no, you're right thumbcrusher, I just didn't feel like putting that in there because I was getting lazy typing it all out.
Inveigh 03.20.12	thumbcrusher is correctly pointing out that if someone earns $40,000 a year, only $5,500 of that is taxed at 25%.
jdennis31 03.20.12	'Occupy Wall Street absolutely disgusts me.' like what mainstream media portrays the occupy wall street movement as? or are you disgusted by people who don't want laws in place that support the big corporations and diminish the american dream?
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	@jdennis i thought he just said if you earn this amount of $ you get taxed this % or maybe i can't read idk doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things...
jdennis31 03.20.12	and oh, @thumbcrusher i understand what you're saying now, my bad
jdennis31 03.20.12	ah no, it was me that couldn't read
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	ok people are commenting way too quickly on this i can't keep up
TheZehan 03.20.12	Well, my grandpa lived out of a Mobile Home for 10 years and made an honest living. My great grandfather was a farmer for 60 years and for sure wasn't rich ever in his life, but he retired a millionaire. He never owned more than one car, had a phone of any type, or a tv. The only luxury item he had was a ford truck and a piano for my great grandmother. So not every rich person inherits their fortune. Paris Hilton is a legit excuse, my great grandpa is not.
Emim 03.20.12	"Well I mean he was a celebrity president." "so he was like the pre-obama then" celebrity =/= immigrant
Maniac! 03.20.12	I dislike Occupy Wall Street because they could use better tactics to protest. I abhor the government trying to deny them their right to do so, however.
jdennis31 03.20.12	eh, alot of people i talk to always assume that occupy wall street is a bunch of lazy assholes who feel entitled to the 1%'s money, which doesn't sound right to me. my understanding is that they just want a level playing ground, but the message has just been tainted by hippies just needing an excuse to be hippies
TheZehan 03.20.12	Andcas, I just hate the fact people complain that there are no good jobs when the military is always a viable option. I work at a soccer complex cleaning bathrooms. I live in a middle class/upper class home. I have no shame working anywhere under my standards. I plan on applying for publix soon. So there are always jobs, people are just too lazy to look for them or have to much pride to do them.
Emim 03.20.12	imma overthrow this here couch
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	you go Emim!!
Emim 03.20.12	pass the cheetos, copper
jdennis31 03.20.12	'Andcas, I just hate the fact people complain that there are no good jobs when the military is always a viable option.' who the fuck wants to go overseas to have their leg blown off for some bullshit war?
jdennis31 03.20.12	lol emim. making me crack up earlier in the keep out zehan thread
TheZehan 03.20.12	Doesn't matter. I live 10 miles from Fort Benning (the biggest army complex in the US). You better believe the military will always take people and support a family. People are just pussies who want things handed to them easily. Like Maniac! said he was going in the Navy. He earned my respect for doing so.
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	"who the fuck wants to go overseas to have their leg blown off for some bullshit war?" "Doesn't matter" i think it would to some people
jdennis31 03.20.12	wait what. doesn't matter. so in order to have money, you should have no troubles dropping all your values and principles?
TheZehan 03.20.12	J, this is my point. It's a job. It's a job that will never be filled. If you don't agree with it, you go without a job. You can't turn down a job then complain about never getting an opportunity. Plenty of people get rich out of the military.
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	Ronald Reagan was a genocidal mass murderer and should be prosecuted under the Nuremberg principles. seriously fucking hate that guy
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	i for one am quite attached to my legs
jdennis31 03.20.12	well those people usually go to college first on a military scholarship, then join the military as an officer at middle class salary but with great housing and benefits and continue to build upon that. but anyways, like i said, not many people would feel great about going overseas to have a possiblity to shoot innocent people or have themselves shot for a measly 30g's a year
TheZehan 03.20.12	As am I, but if I can't find a job, I'm not gonna sit around begging the government to make it fair when there is a military that would gladly take another soldier. There is a job, but you guys won't take it. You'd rather sit and cry til an easy one comes along. Pisses me off.
TheZehan 03.20.12	But people would rather sit and cry and do nothing. I'm not gonna lie, when my grandpa dies, I'll be made for life. But you better believe I'll pay my taxes and get a job til I retire myself. I'm no slacker (even if it meant going into the military). I would lose a limb (or my life) to provide for my future family.
jdennis31 03.20.12	umm, they are asking the government to level the playing field in order to perpetuate the american dream. you know, that one thing in our constitution. no enlisted soldier is gonna have any opportunity to have financial freedom from that field of work
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	tbh i have don't have a lot against the military and there are times when i've thought one day i could even be a career option, though i'd rather work in an office or something. though soldiers don't earn much and i think you should understand pepole who don't want to do it for moral reasons and shizz
jdennis31 03.20.12	and before someone calls me out for being a moron, i meant the declaration of independence
TheZehan 03.20.12	Right, but those people can't complain there are no opportunities.
jdennis31 03.20.12	goddamn work needs to end. i need a hit.
Maniac! 03.20.12	dennis not just anyone can get into the military anymore. do some fucking research you ignorant fucker
Inveigh 03.20.12	there are tons of other opportunities outside of the military even I got laid off twice during the worst recession in decades and found a job within 3 weeks each time
jdennis31 03.20.12	@maniac lol. did you just call me an ignorant fucker. that makes me a saaaaaad panda
jdennis31 03.20.12	@inveigh yah, i have a bad ass job and have no degree or certifications. not only that, my roommate has the exact same job
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	Can we focus more on how Reagan was a mass murderer?
TheZehan 03.20.12	Thanks Inviegh for proving my point perfectly. Every jobs a job even if it's not whatcha want. People just don't take specific jobs (that why mexicans take them, and that's not racist, that is a fact).
Inveigh 03.20.12	"yah, i have a bad ass job and have no degree or certifications. not only that, my roommate has the exact same job" yea dude working for dominos rules
TheZehan 03.20.12	So reagan went out and shot people? No, he approved a charge to kill HOSTILE Africans to SAVE AMERICANS being kept hostage by said HOSTILE Africans.?
Maniac! 03.20.12	sorry dennis you know who I meant
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	Oh sorry my bad, I guess he technically didn't shoot anyone. He just armed terrorist groups for money to help arm other terrorist groups who massacred the shit out of Guatemalans. I guess I'm splitting hairs.
jdennis31 03.20.12	yah i know. and @inveigh lol.
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	and that's one of many cases^
TheZehan 03.20.12	Against HOSTILE people. We were threatened, we took care of the problem. Simple as that.
Trebor. 03.20.12	Thank god there are still people dumb enough to join the military I used to like to think if no one of dumb enough to join then we wouldn't have pointless wars, but then those assholes would just draft my ass off to the middle east, so thanks rednecks!
jdennis31 03.20.12	guessing zehan wants to make iran a crater
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	oh god i've never realized how mentally handicapped zehan is until now
Trebor. 03.20.12	zehan you are 14 and don't know shit about politics so just shut the fuck up and go watch Fox news
Maniac! 03.20.12	yep im a mindless redneck
Trebor. 03.20.12	Navy doesn't count
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	Trebor, hate the war not the soldiers except for the soldiers who actually kill civilians, it's okay to hate them
jdennis31 03.20.12	wait, is ronald reagan the one that started the war on drugs?
jdennis31 03.20.12	yea.... i hope that guy got punched in the nose once in his life
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	nah that was nixon reagan probably made it worse though
Emim 03.20.12	hey guys lets argue about the past and get really pissy about it
jdennis31 03.20.12	think he made it way worse 'In 1986, Reagan signed a drug enforcement bill that budgeted $1.7 billion to fund the War on Drugs and specified a mandatory minimum penalty for drug offenses.' i don't even know much about reagan or carter but that alone makes me hate him just cause it directly affects me
jdennis31 03.20.12	@emim lets do it
Emim 03.20.12	"hey guys lets argue about the past and get really pissy about it" woah great idea man
Trebor. 03.20.12	Nah I still hate soldiers
thumbcrusher 03.20.12	argue argue argue piss piss piss
WeepingBanana 03.20.12	"hey guys lets argue about the past and get really pissy about it" let's ignore crimes against humanity!
jdennis31 03.20.12	lol, emim having convos with himself all day
Emim 03.20.12	done and done
Emim 03.20.12	this way there's always at least one person that agrees with me
Emim 03.20.12	another great idea
jdennis31 03.20.12	haha
Emim 03.20.12	well i think we can wrap this discussion up
jdennis31 03.20.12	indeed, cept now me and inveigh have to have a 100 comment arguement about him callin me a pizza boy
Emim 03.20.12	great work everyone i feel like we accomplished much
LAD 03.20.12	the best president was andrew jackson, he dueled with people in his back yard like 20 times, and beat people up-fact. as for reagan or jimmy i heard they are both the worst president by different people, but ronald was just a standard conservative witch is boring, and liberal views piss me off sometimes especially about gunsand shit. but yeah the drug shit is conservative and that pisses me off. i would say im libertarian because i read some ayn rand books but she really goes too far sometimes.
tarkus 03.20.12	but you wrote that emperor review how are we supposed to take you seriously
Trebor. 03.20.12	Isn't Andrew Jackson the one that killed a ton of Native Americans? The dude seriously looks like a vampire too http://www.homeofheroes.com/presidents/pres_jackson.jpg
mandan 03.20.12	Yeah, Andrew Jackson is a rather interesting president. And yes, he was known as an indian hater.
NotSoFast 03.20.12	Can't believe this made it to 200 comments.
Maniac! 03.22.12	Ralph Nader 2012