BookoftheFallen: Metalcore!

oltnabrick 06.16.26	Same
Calc 06.17.26	METALCORE!
Emim 06.17.26	Comment!
LouBreed 06.17.26	Is mayonnaise a metalcore?
Veldin 06.17.26	Need to check 13- thanks!
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Went and saw Killswitch live a couple weeks ago. Been on a hard, hard early 2000s metalcore kick since. I re-listened through that Atreyu album too, there we so many great bands for like a short period of time. Then nearly all of them just started to be meh. But 2000-2006ish was a crazy good era. Didn't realize how good I had it growing up then.
botb 06.18.26	Ah I can tell you too had a Christcore adjacent young adulthood
BookoftheFallen 06.18.26	2000s metalcore was so good. Even alot of the christian bands were awesome. annoying Octanecore didnt exist yet. Some bands like atreyu went buttrock but even that was fun.
AlkemestRedux 06.18.26	Agreed, it still bums me out that Lambesis destroyed his brain and his band. AILD had such a golden string of records for a while there. I blew out the speakers in my mom's LeSabre listening to An Ocean Between Us lmao
botb 06.18.26	That was a big band for me in 9th grade. Heard frail words collapse, they’re only chasing safety, as the palaces burn, and hidden hands of sadist nation in like the same 2 week period. Sent me on a trajectory to find anything remotely heavier than classic metal for years.
jrlikestodance 06.18.26	Shadows Are Security was my first metalcore album, got it for Christmas in like 7th or 8th grade. Still think it holds up as their best. Tim still needs his ass publicly whooped
Emim 06.18.26	Through Struggle was my first mxc song, or Infected by Demon Hunter if you count that
Confessed2005 06.18.26	Some very fine albums here.
JayEnder 06.18.26	I FRIGGIN LOVE METALCORE! Through Struggle was my first experience with the genre too and it changed my brain chemistry forever
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Thanks for reminding me I need to listen to Nocturne. I never liked Digital Veil many years ago hearing it (10+ years), so I need to revisit that band in general.
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Also, gonna get a lot of hate for this but The Poison is still may be the best mainstream style metalcore record ever. Almost every song has a great hook and is memorable. Band shit the bed real fast after the Poison and never recovered, but for one record they were awesome.
NudeTayne 06.18.26	The Last Kind Words by Devildriver is way up there for me in the metalcore category
botb 06.18.26	Digital veil fucking sucks other than like 2 songs but nocturne rules
jrlikestodance 06.18.26	The End of Heartache stomps The Poison imho
NudeTayne 06.18.26	fuck that is such a rabbit hole of thought
KjSwantko 06.18.26	They're a little more on the metallic hardcore type of metalcore but dang Hatebreed had some killer songs on their first 3 records. I LIVE FOR THISSSSS.....LIVE, LIVE!
jrlikestodance 06.18.26	I think Supremacy is right up there w the first three Hatebreed records. Jammed some of it yesterday and it still holds up. Defeatist is a beast ass opener
KjSwantko 06.18.26	"The End of Heartache stomps The Poison imho" Both are among my favorite records of all time, and easy 5's - so I have no problem arguing Heartache wins. Both classics.
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Damn I forgot about Defeatist. 2nd half of that song when the groove hits is 5/5 agreed.
jrlikestodance 06.18.26	They played it live when I saw em a lil while ago and it really brought me back. I've been toying around with the idea of writing a review for Satisfaction since I've now 5d it
KjSwantko 06.18.26	If it needs a review, do it. Hatebreed are underappreciated in the grand scheme - probably due to their corny band name. They put out some killer music. They were somewhat ahead of their time with the real aggressive, self-empowerment message that bands like Killswitch later ran with.
Confessed2005 06.18.26	I used to detest Bullet For MY Valentine but I have to say, The Poison is very good. Aged like fine wine.
Emim 06.18.26	I'd put As Daylight Dies over TEOH if we're talking hooks. The Poison is definitely up there too
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Both are 5’s, both have tons of hooks agreed.
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Just realized A7X’s Waking the Fallen isn’t on here. Another amazing early metalcore album and then they were meh for everything after.
Confessed2005 06.18.26	Yep, that album was amazing - still holds up well today too.
sr388 06.18.26	chimaira < 3
sr388 06.18.26	also metalcore
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Chimaira will always be the unsung kings of metalcore to me. One of my favorite bands ever. impossibility of Reason, Chimaira, and Resurrection was a great great 3 album run.
Confessed2005 06.18.26	Chimaira rule - another hard agreement.
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Heck yeah. I always debate flying out to Cleveland every year for their Christmas reunion show. Haven’t yet, but seriously debating.
sr388 06.18.26	seeing them play with killswitch and lacuna coil (and disturbed lol) altered my childhood brain chemistry
KjSwantko 06.18.26	Disturbed lol. Actually The Sickness was a pretty respectable mainstream effort. Then they turned into a straight up embarrassment after.
NudeTayne 06.19.26	"seeing them play with killswitch and lacuna coil (and disturbed lol) altered my childhood brain chemistry" I saw that tour in Detroit at the Joe Louis Arena I think, it's when Chimaira was touring The Infection, I had backstage passes for KsE for me and a friend and when we saw the show we decided to leave when Disturbed came on and dodged traffic lol
KjSwantko 06.19.26	dang lol. What a shame Joe Louis is gone now too. I grew up in Glens Falls, NY, home of the now defunct Adirondack Red Wings (AHL affiliate to Detroit). For that reason, always have had a soft spot for Detroit. Little Ceasar Arena now sounds retarded. That's cool you got to experience a legendary venue like that.
KjSwantko 06.19.26	Also, The Infection wasn't a bad record. If it had the mix and production of Impossibility of Reason, it would've been much better received. The flat, balls-less sound killed it imo.
NudeTayne 06.19.26	actually loved The Infection, imo the last good album they made. Huge fan of Andols Herrick, an incredible drummer that made that album such a vibe
BookoftheFallen 06.19.26	The disturbed, killswitch engage, chimaera tour (music as a weapon) was the first concert I ever went to when I was in high school! Disturbed were my favorite band back then.
KjSwantko 06.19.26	It's ok, I thought they were sick when I was like 11 years old when The Sickness came out too. Fortunately, we all advance and move on.
sr388 06.19.26	music as a weapon enjoyers unite m/
sr388 06.19.26	also indestructible by disturbed still has some bangers