SharkTooth
07.04.25 | yeah I read there's some big staff boycott going on which sucks, I hope everything gets better on that end. But otherwise, what's up sput? |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Friggin nice. |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | Ayyy, I was in the process of doing this exact list idea. Hope your day is going well today |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Why thank you. I hope you don't mind my shit takes on this list
Also hello Hawks and RVAHC, I'm doing great, and it's nice to see you two familiar faces still kickin. |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | 2013 class stand up lol |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | 2013 gang |
cylinder
07.04.25 | Sunbather is one of the most intensely emotional metal albums ever made. |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | I wonder where Green Baron is at these days |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Did he get banned? I remember when he was everywhere on the site |
budgie
07.04.25 | love me some black metal lists
agreed more or less with the mantle and BFD lol |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | Idk, I believe he goes by NordicMindset now |
budgie
07.04.25 | check gehenna first spell coziest album ever its like a crackling fireplace in ur ears |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Bruh ain't he from Long Island?
That sounds like a LARP doesn't it?
Also hell yeah budgie, nice to see someone agrees with my hot takes there. Will def check that out |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | Not my place to say, I was away from this site for a while but I’m here now for whatever that’s worth. Nice selection of albums btw, I had 1,4 and 8 on my to-listen list. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Same here more or less, I guess you're right on that end |
swallowtales
07.04.25 | I feel like Agalloch wise you are probably better off spinning Ashes or Pale Folklore, from what you have said in this list, they probably would fit better |
swallowtales
07.04.25 | Also if you need to work on your tolerance for kvlt production you could just dunk yourself into Ulver - Nattens Madrigal as you like Bergtatt, as that album has famously potato production |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Thanks for the recs, def will check those out |
brickhed
07.04.25 | with me black metal riffs really dont speak to me at all, even though I like the low fi production. dont know what it is. |
Hawks
07.04.25 | If the riffs on Nattens Madrigal don't speak to you then you don't like riffs. Jam it asap. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | @brickhed
I can imagine why one might feel that way, the riffs in black metal in my experience don't tend to be center focus like they might in thrash or doom metal, they seem to blend into each other to create a sorta haze, and lo fi production could intensify that effect. Personally, Ulver's Bergtatt is as low as I'm willing to go because when you reach Darkthrone territory it gets in the way of the music imo |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Once you get further into the genre you'll start digging the more raw stuff lol. In the meantime, jam Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia by Dimmu Borgir and Midian by Cradle of Filth. |
budgie
07.04.25 | guh 99% of nattens is tremolo melodies if you want cool riffs you should just listen to peace sells |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Dave Mustaine is a tool bag. |
budgie
07.04.25 | oh so you let character get in the way of riffs huh guess you are a PHONEYYYYYYYYYYYY |
RVAHC13
07.04.25 | @SharkTooth
If you want a BM album I really like try Negative Plane - Stained Glass Revelations |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | I prefer Rust In Peace.
Also I'm on Nattens Madrigal. It's interesting, it doesn't scratch my black metal itch but it does remind me of 80s crossover thrash bands like Cryptic Slaughter, there's a punk vibe to this thing.
but yeah when it comes to riffs I prefer mine slower, heavier and fuzzier. |
Spec
07.04.25 | Check Mayhem - Esoteric Warfare because the band is essential.
Can probably skip De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas for now though. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | @RVAHC Fantastic rec, this is everything I seek in black metal and I'm so glad you gave it. |
swallowtales
07.04.25 | I never got Mayhem aye, they don't really do it for me |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Mayhem rules agreed. |
budgie
07.04.25 | punk vibe to nattens? i dont see that at all
"I never got Mayhem aye, they don't really do it for me
you ever jam deathcrush? |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | I'm guessing most of the Mayhem appeal comes from the lore
but then again I've never given them a listen so I am in no place to judge, it's just the story behind the band is so wild it could justify any music |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Nah their music rips too lol. And yeah there aren't punk or thrash vibes on Nattens lol. It's straight-up raw black metal. |
swallowtales
07.04.25 | Nah tbf I mostly jammed De Mysteris, will give Deathcrush a spin |
Hawks
07.04.25 | De Mysteriis is top 10 bm ever easy. Deathcrush is amazing too. |
Spec
07.04.25 | Mayhem lore is what attracted most of us to them. The music just happens to be very good too. |
budgie
07.04.25 | deathcrush sounds quite a bit different from de mysteriis, if you like 80s extreme metal it should interest you. think its totally mandatory metal album but so many people ignore it |
Spec
07.04.25 | And their live show is *chefs kiss* always go if you get the chance. |
bach
07.04.25 | honestly live in leipzig by mayhem is worth a listen too. compared to a lot of raw bm, it sounds like a professionally recorded studio record. I would consider it just as essential as deathcrush and De Mysteriis |
budgie
07.04.25 | "compared to a lot of raw bm, it sounds like a professionally recorded studio record.
i think thats a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a stretch lol it sounds pretty rough i love a lot of raw bm but leipzig is even for me kinda a novelty |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | I checked out the 2 Mayhem records. My thoughts:
Both records go hard. Esoteric Warfare is headbanging, fist pumping fury that would be hella cool to see live, and headcrush is groovy and rips, but the vocals are hit or miss. Neither is what I look for in black metal when i want to listen in my room, but I can imagine that these guys would be a blast to see live, just gotta make sure to dodge the severed pig heads
Will check leipzig |
swallowtales
07.04.25 | Thoughts on Deathcrush is it was cool, didn't blow me away but it was cool |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | I wanna update this list with all the recs and my thoughts cuz dang this was a lotta records. |
budgie
07.04.25 | i just made a list called black metal primer has a bunch of examples of good albums in the different black metal subgenres
there are probably other lists like that on this site but mine is the best by virtue of me having made it |
Muzz79
07.04.25 | 12 is the best here ease |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | completely agreed, that album blew my fuckin mind upon first hearing it a month ago. |
bach
07.04.25 | Bit of a stretch maybe so but compared to a lot of the super raw stuff, it definitely holds up. Im definitely a fan of bm where the recording sounds like shit lmao its like an instrument itself |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | hmmmmm, I can dig rawness, from an In Utero to sludge metal a la Acid Bath or early Eyehategod, raw production and riff music is a combination I fully fuck with. But if you're talking about kvlt potato quality black metal, it just feels like a distraction half the time, just check what I wrote on the darkthrone albums
It often feels like black metal's rawness goes a step further and just ends up obfuscating the music to me |
bach
07.04.25 | I think before I got into noise and power electronics, i found it getting in the way as well. Once you listen to sutcliffe jujend it all starts to make sense. |
Faraudo
07.04.25 | Hell yeah, some all-timers here |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Why thank you. do be aware that some highly rated records on the list I rate low because they just never clicked with me |
Muzz79
07.04.25 | Evoking Winds - Your Rivers - goes with 12 and 15 and warmth of 16 |
budgie
07.04.25 | yo if you like 15 you gotta put summoning - stronghold on the shortlist |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | I love these recs, it feels like I'm exploring a whole new world when I try these! keep em coming! |
zaruyache
07.04.25 | get into the folky cascadian bm stuff if you like ulver that much tbh. Alda and Skagos should be right up your alley. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Will do, and speaking of mountainous regions of North America and folky bm, I forgot to mention panopticon in the list, didn't like the one album I heard from them |
budgie
07.04.25 | for "sadness atmospheres and slower songs" check out lantlos - agape (hawks will say to check .neon instead because agape "sucks" so check either). there's a good bit of doom/sludge going on with lantlos |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Will check both. Really appreciate all the recs from everyone! |
garas
07.04.25 | Maybe you'd enjoy the more mellow kind of atmospheric black metal, huh?
How about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsndsN6-k9w&pp=ygUMbnVsbCBoaXJhZXRo |
Scheumke
07.04.25 | It's just so much fun recommending things and have people actually listening to it haha. Easy to rec stuff. I'm mostly versed in bands that have a lot of crossover and more modern stuff (and I'll try to restrain myself to my personal favorites) but definitely try:
Ne Obliviscaris - Citadel (Black/Death/Prog)
Shade Empire - Omega Arcane (Symphonic Black)
The Ruins of Beverast - The Thule Grimoires (Doom/Black)
And if you want something amazing that came out this year: Havukruunu - Tavastland.
Enjoy! |
Muzz79
07.04.25 | Hell yeah! |
Hawks
07.04.25 | "check out lantlos - agape (hawks will say to check .neon instead because agape "sucks" so check either)"
Budg knows me so well!! Yeah, check neon. HARD. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | The pleasure is mine. I love just going into these albums blind with no idea what I'm about to hear. Going through all these recs, even if I might not like the music, is a treat in itself. |
Gameofmetal
07.04.25 | Wayfarer was a good rec given your taste, whoever did that, imo it's more of a western post metal album shot through with black metal than black metal first.
Maybe some Cultes Des Ghoules stuff? It's very early black metal inspired where it was really this primitive mishmash of black, death, doom, speed etc. There's a lot of slow heavy riffs and most of their albums are cleaner but with grit. |
Zac124
07.04.25 | Damn, 2 for The Mantle. At least you enjoyed the first 18 minutes. I recommend Enter the Moonlight Gate by Lord Belial and Visual Kill by Saidan. |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Glad you dig Dimmu and Cradle!!! |
zaruyache
07.04.25 | "panopticon" cheq autumn eternal or ELSE
https://youtu.be/tPaWyHhnU9s?si=zxlFU__S9qsZG1dC |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Really surprised you dig Bergtatt, but hate The Mantle tbh. They're very similar styles. I'd keep trying with Agalloch. One of the best bands of all-time.
And yeah, listen to Zar and get on Panopticon HARD. |
charbyno
07.04.25 | I've just recently dipped my toes into Black Metal as well. The band I have been digging lately is Enslaved. Frost for early BM sound and RIITIIR for a more prog/black metal sound |
Hawks
07.04.25 | Enslaved is a fantastic starter band for bm. |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | Re: the mantle, In The Shadow of Our Pale Companion is just too fucking good man, puts the rest of the album to shame imo |
Zac124
07.04.25 | I cannot see that at all. I agree that Shadows is the best track but everything else on the album is fantastic too. One of the few albums I think of as perfect. |
budgie
07.04.25 | dont 4get stronghold |
SharkTooth
07.04.25 | On it budgie, just currently going through Hiraeth(this album is huge) so it's gonna wait a bit.
also re:Zac I can see why one would consider it perfect. But honestly I've tried multiple times to get into the rest of the album and it just never clicked with me. I'm gonna keep trying but for now I just don't enjoy the album as much as I would like to.
On the plus side I love Ashes Against the Grain |
Zac124
07.04.25 | Fair enough. I can see why the album may not click. Ashes is indeed fantastic. |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.25 | the tambourine in loud music of the sky will jiggle ur jammies |
SuzyC
07.05.25 | I would definitely recommend digging into Violet Cold (very progressive BM blended with several other genres) and Crow Black Sky (incredibly dramatic sci-fi based BM). |
budgie
07.05.25 | violet cold sounds like anime black metal |
budgie
07.05.25 | not necessarily a dig on it i no ppls like anime stuff |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.25 | bungie ur entire existence is an anime |
Hawks
07.05.25 | Violet Cold is good stuff. |
budgie
07.05.25 | take that back smok tkake that back |
RVAHC13
07.05.25 | バッジーさん は わたしのともだちですよ。 |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.25 | https://youtu.be/ooHiFoWz50U?si=N4uIrpgRLdJT7Pvu&t=17 |
budgie
07.05.25 | hibachi honey teriyaki oh my lord |
RVAHC13
07.05.25 | Your ass is happy??! |
SharkTooth
07.06.25 | I did it budgie, I listened to Stronghold |
twlight
07.06.25 | You need to listen to deathspell omega |
SharkTooth
07.06.25 | which one should i start with tho? |
twlight
07.06.25 | Good question. Almost everything they’ve released is good. I’d almost suggest starting with The Furnaces of Palengensia and work backwards |
SharkTooth
07.06.25 | Sounds like a plan |
twlight
07.06.25 | As you dive into the band you’ll find that the vocalist is a real piece of shit in DsO. Just forewarning. Up to you how much you wanna dig. But the music itself is worth checking |
budgie
07.06.25 | black metal doesnt need blastbeats
blastbeats are gay |
twlight
07.06.25 | Budgie you’re gay. And I love you |
budgie
07.06.25 | im gay for sexy feathery birds |
Hawks
07.06.25 | Men. |
twlight
07.06.25 | Osprey or eagle? |
twlight
07.06.25 | Or hawks
Lmfao |
budgie
07.06.25 | not hawks any bird but hawks |
Hawks
07.06.25 | Hawks is here. |
twlight
07.06.25 | I’m mean, you’re pretty fucking hawt |
Hawks
07.06.25 | I try my best. |
budgie
07.06.25 | dude you me twlight and smok are like the only people left on sput and honestly its kinda fuckin awesome
black metal threads for daaays |
Hawks
07.06.25 | Don't forget Hype, Futures, Jr and a few others!!! Yeah it's not too bad tbh. A tad slow, but we'll be alright lol. |
twlight
07.06.25 | Hawks is a fucking scholar at this point.
But yes, budgie |
budgie
07.06.25 | jr still in probationary period havent decided if hes cool yet |
Hawks
07.06.25 | Jr is the friggin man. |
budgie
07.07.25 | there was a piece of paper in my croissant sandwich what the FUCK |
budgie
07.07.25 | i could have DIED!@!!!!!!!!! |
DominionMM1
07.07.25 | 7 and 8 arent too kvlt they’re just awful |
budgie
07.07.25 | 7 could be the greatest metal album of all time |
swallowtales
07.07.25 | yeah we can't be slandering classic darkthrone here, those records are in the pantheon of greatness even if i don't jam them super often |
Sevengill
07.07.25 | I'd be thrilled if you gave my band Dzö-nga a spin. you might dig it since Evoking Winds was a hit for you. |
ScuroFantasma
07.07.25 | Dzö-nga would actually be right up his alley considering how much atmo-bm dominates the higher ratings here. |
budgie
07.07.25 | the guy from muskox recorded on your album??????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
Gameofmetal
07.07.25 | u might fux with my band too since you liked Wayfarer, also a cowboy/western/spaghetti western black metal thing
https://darkwatcher.bandcamp.com/album/frontier |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.07.25 | u done in the nightside eclipse or under the sign of the black mark yet? |
Sevengill
07.07.25 | lol yes, Raphael has recorded songs for two of my projects. he's an amazing dude.
thanks Scuro 🙏 u are also amazing |
Hawks
07.07.25 | Seven I still gotta jam the album from 2020 hard. |
Sevengill
07.07.25 | Get your Longfellow sparknotes out! |
budgie
07.07.25 | thats awesome seven
his worlds within album is legitimately a contender for greatest album ever recorded |
Sevengill
07.08.25 | have you heard his LP with The Visit? that one is gorgeous. |
budgie
07.11.25 | yeh i prefer agape to neon as well but they are both exceptional |
Dedes
07.11.25 | Neon fucking rules
Those noir-esque moments in Minusmensch light my friggin soul ablaze
Stoked to see ur mostly digging your journey even if there's a few oddball takes lol |
SharkTooth
07.11.25 | Well yeah, what i feel is what i feel. I can't help it if it's weird |
Hawks
07.11.25 | Well hey, at least you dig The Ruins of Beverast!! |
SharkTooth
07.11.25 | I'd be crazy not to, given my love for doom metal |
Hawks
07.11.25 | Make sure you jam the rest of the discog!! |
SharkTooth
07.11.25 | I most certainly will
(Oh would you look at that, my 15,000th comment) |
Hawks
07.11.25 | Oh and another rec for you:
Borknagar - The Archaic Course/Empiricism
Think you'd really dig both. |
budgie
07.11.25 | the borknagar st debut is vital as well |
Hawks
07.11.25 | Agreed hard and The Olden Domain. |
SharkTooth
07.12.25 | Damn that's 4 recs from one artist lmao. This is gonna be a busy weekend as I catch up to everyone's comments |
budgie
07.12.25 | the kovenant - nexus polaris |
budgie
07.12.25 | ;);) |
SharkTooth
07.13.25 | I once again checked The Mantle and once again didn't enjoy a single song after Companion. I guess it just wasn't meant to be. 🤷
|
Hawks
07.13.25 | Damn. |
budgie
07.13.25 | agalloch is trash |
Spec
07.14.25 | bro what |
Hawks
07.14.25 | Budg gtfo. |
Dedes
07.14.25 | I'm gonna personally arrive at your house and donkey punch you in the throat for your dog piss takes |
Hawks
07.14.25 | Hahahahahaha |