Trebor.
11.30.23 | burr durr ding
burr durr ding |
cycosynner
11.30.23 | Gotta get you some AHC in your life |
pizzamachine
12.01.23 | Hear me out
No |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @pizzamachine - who would u add? |
DadKungFu
12.01.23 | Skindred and Static-X tho |
Emim
12.01.23 | P.O.D.
Linkin Park
Nothingface
Nonpoint
Maybe some Static-X and Dope |
Spec
12.01.23 | Sugar Ray. |
pizzamachine
12.01.23 | “who would u add?”
A buncha artists |
Irikeheavymetal
12.01.23 | gotttaa have
Static X - Wisconsin Death Trip |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.01.23 | wheres converge |
JDubb
12.01.23 | I'll concede Static-X. But was Static-X really nu metal? They broke out as part of the nu metal scene, but I see them more as Industrial metal. There’s a lot of Prong, Ministry, and Fear Factory in their sound. As for POD and LP - didn’t include rap metal. Converge isn’t nu metal. |
BAT
12.01.23 | Glad to see people finally ,admitting 90s deftones&incubus were numetal, my older brothers had all of these by the end of the 90s.
And yeah I'd say the first two Linkin park cds are numetal classics. Everyone had disturbed - the sickness buuut let's be real: it's not aged well and only has maybe 3 songs that aren't laugh inducing. Other end Era picks goto evanescence and chimaira- impossibility of reason. Lot of numetal kids were jamming poison the well aswell but this was pre-broadband so no one had heard the term metalcore, likewise early lamb of god |
Scoot
12.01.23 | sunk loto - between birth and death
the goat |
Emim
12.01.23 | "POD and LP - didn’t include rap metal"
What a pointless distinction |
pizzamachine
12.01.23 | This list is really something |
Emim
12.01.23 | Oh TRUSTcompany and 40 Below Summer |
zaruyache
12.01.23 | for real, kittie? |
Scoot
12.01.23 | five pointe o - untitled |
Emim
12.01.23 | That Sunk Loto album is sweet, scoot. I'll check the other too |
Gavierra
12.01.23 | Normie list lol |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @zaruyache, I hesitated to put Kittie on here - and especially the album Spit (Instead of Oracle). But their presence on Ozzfest, touring the Spit album, opened up a lot of doors for future female-fronted bands, and use of female harsh and clean vocals. Otep didn’t come around til a couple of years later. |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @Gavierra, unfortunately this is a normie list. Why - because these bands had staying power - most are still around today. The one-offs (e.g., Five Pointe 0, Pulse Ultra, Atomship, OneSideZero, etc.) were contributors, but were then gone - a flash in the pan. Or were like Sunk Loto -a little too late in the game. |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @BAT, I'll concede to Evanescence. Even though I see them (as well as Lacuna Coil) as goth metal now - Evanescence definitely broke in 2003 as part of the latter nu-metal scene. And "Fallen" is landmark. |
Kompys2000
12.01.23 | Get Nothingface on here mang Violence or Skeletons chop chop |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @BAT, early Deftones and Incubus were definitely nu-metal. Especially Deftones - Adrenaline. Would argue that Deftones transcended nu-metal with White Pony, but that Incubus always retained a bit of mainstream nu-metal (Make Yourself like) throughout their later albums. |
Butkuiss
12.01.23 | 3 Dollar Bill, Adrenaline and Hybrid Theory were all extremely landmark albums for the genre and they aren’t mentioned here. I would honestly say Adrenaline was more important for the genre than ATF. Gross omission! |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @Butkuiss - Although I consider each of those 3 albums rap-metal - I will admit, I have little love for either LB or LP. At the time - I had their albums, I saw them live - but they were derivative bands that ultimately tanked nu-metal, along with the second wave of generic nu-metal from around 2001 to 2004. |
Butkuiss
12.01.23 | Reducing Linkin Park or Bizkit to “Rap Metal” is utterly trite. You want rap metal, go listen to Downset or Stuck Mojo or Body Count and you’ll get rap metal - rap vocals over groove and thrash riffs. Your personal feelings aside, Linkin Park and Bizkit’s appropriation and incorporation of elements of turntablism, trip-hop, hardcore punk, grunge, soft-loud dynamics, pop choruses, and, for LP, industrial and techno oriented production techniques orient them squarely within the realm of nu metal. This is not even an argument. |
Kompys2000
12.01.23 | not including any rap metal on a nu metal list is um certainly a choice |
Butkuiss
12.01.23 | Anyway, you’re also missing Snot’s Get Some and Hed(PE)’s s/t - both of which unfortunately don’t get enough recognition these days for the influence they had on the genre at the time. |
rellik009
12.01.23 | >includes around the fur instead of white pony
crikey bruv |
JDubb
12.01.23 | Love some Snot. But did Snot have that much influence though? What other bands, after them, followed their sound (besides Amen)? |
JDubb
12.01.23 | …thinking on Nothingface, LP, and the LB…. |
Butkuiss
12.01.23 | You telling me you don’t hear any Snot in the vocals or guitar work on Slipknot’s s/t or LD:50? I feel like I do. |
JDubb
12.01.23 | Not really - I hear some Snot influence in Manhole, and in select Soulfly and Sevendust albums (containing ex-Snot members). Also - prob the best songs on LB’s Results May Vary are Mikey Doling’s. Snot was one of my top 5 shows I saw - but pretty short lived. |
Butkuiss
12.01.23 | Mike Smith played with Bizkit, not Doling. |
canczar
12.01.23 | First 10 is almost a perfect take |
canczar
12.01.23 | Id add first (hed) pe |
canczar
12.01.23 | Take evanescence off |
GhandhiLion
12.01.23 | ^Lol wtf |
GhandhiLion
12.01.23 | Why we using rap metal as a pejorative? Ratm smoke most of thes
+Significant Other (nu-metal) |
Emim
12.01.23 | "3 Dollar Bill"
Album is pretty underrated. If only Durst could've dropped the whiny vox |
SomeCallMeTim
12.01.23 | the world needed this research for the archives |
JDubb
12.01.23 | @Butkuiss, damn - you’re right! Whoops! |
Gavierra
12.01.23 | Sinner should get a mention. That record’s been on a lot of people’s radar even after nu metal’s decline |
Kompys2000
12.01.23 | ^lol gonna raise some hackles with that one but go off king |
AnimalForce1
12.01.23 | "not including any rap metal on a nu metal list is um certainly a choice"
My thoughts exactly. Especially when it disqualifies Hybrid Theory and Meteora from the list. LP justice |
BAT
12.02.23 | I don't see the cd for family values tour 1998 on sputnik, only the 1999 one which I can't account for. But afaic this tape was the watershed moment for nu https://youtu.be/VeTPk_UtoY4 |
JDubb
12.02.23 | I guess it comes down to this - if I was trapped on an island with just 10 nu-metal albums; it wouldn't be Nothingface (Violence), Drowning Pool (Sinner), or Sunk Loto (Between Birth and Death). Not that those aren't great albums - but not groundbreaking. And other than Drowning Pool, these bands didn't stick around. |
JDubb
12.02.23 | Added Staind (Tormented, Dysfunction) on this list -as their sound helped fuel the latter half of nu metal (2001 to 2004). |
BookoftheFallen
12.03.23 | i wouldnt say kittie matters |
Bigwill2k
12.17.23 | I like the expressive screams on Spit, they're something unique and genuinely menacing. The music was a little sloppy though. |
Boognish79
01.23.24 | Deftones and Sepultura are far and away better than any other bands on this list. |
