GhandhiLion: Tag Instrumental Hip Hop [WIP]

ArsMoriendi 03.30.23	Nujabes DJ Krush
cvlts 03.30.23	Blazo - Colors of Jazz Sound Providers - Evening With The Sound Providers BADBADNOTGOOD - BBNG2 Blue Sky Black Death - NOIR The Avalanches - Since I Left You Blvk - Beat Batch #3 Peter Bark - Island Sanctuary Uyama Hiroto - A Son of the Sun Kryptic Minds - One of Us
JohnnyoftheWell 03.30.23	Michita and ig EdIT, Prefuse 73 and Avalanches
ArsMoriendi 03.30.23	Avalanches I feel like is complicated Do sampled vocals not count as vocals?
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	The Avalanches tag is quite contentious not sure if I agree
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	"Do sampled vocals not count as vocals" no, a lot of instrumental hip hop has sampled vocals
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	I'm also agnostic on that BADBADNOTGOOD album being instrumental hip hop. Perhaps it's more like jazz fusion influenced by hip hop.
ArsMoriendi 03.30.23	Iâ€™d said they do Songs like Frontier Psychiatrist by Avalanches or like Six Days by DJ Shadow donâ€™t feel like instrumental at all (DJ Shadow obviously still works tho since most of his stuff is vocal-less)
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	Yeah they definitely have a lot of songs that I'd call instrumental hip hop. I'll add them even though I'm unsure.
cvlts 03.30.23	"The Avalanches tag is quite contentious not sure if I agree" Considering Wildflower has full on rapped verses, I absolutely consider SILY at least tangentially instrumental hiphop. Maybe more so from a sampling/plunderphonics perspective, but related nonetheless. BADBADNOTGOOD, I mean, they did a whole album with Ghostface based on their style of music. Absolutely instrumental hiphop.
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	I don't see how them doing a collaboration album with Ghostface strengthens the argument that they are instrumental hip hop. Perhaps I haven't heard the right recordings by them.
AlexKzillion 03.30.23	i think yes for avalanches because they make instrumental hip hop/plunderphonics first and foremost, but will occasionally (maybe an understatement) have vocal features on their newer stuff, and is not someone a part of avalanches doing the vocals when there are vocals. another interesting case would be mf doom. on the surface that sounds stupid but the dude dropped like eight instrumental mixtapes and generally has quite a few instrumental/plunderphonics-y tracks on all his albums
GhandhiLion 03.30.23	for sure
ArsMoriendi 03.30.23	Okay, lemme actually go through these now...
ArsMoriendi 03.30.23	Tagged 1-44 :P
Pheromone 03.31.23	blue in green
dedex 03.31.23	tagged! thank you Ghandhi!!
dedex 03.31.23	now we just need jazz hop
GhandhiLion 03.31.23	Yeah would be nice
Pheromone 03.31.23	where the fuck is pete rock
Pheromone 03.31.23	sorry i didnt mean it
ArsMoriendi 04.01.23	The Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination
GhandhiLion 04.01.23	Is that not for the nu jazz list ars?
ArsMoriendi 04.01.23	tbh probably both, the album has 0 lyrics and lots of samples/hip hop sounds
GhandhiLion 04.01.23	Interesting, I'll give it a listen. It doesn't seem like hip hop from skimming it.
PotsyTater 04.01.23	More Lâ€™s
GhandhiLion 04.01.23	Explain. Thanks