JDubb: Do These Albums Deserve the Hate?

artiswar 02.21.23	1, 4, 5, 8 no, the rest, kinda yeah
DavidYowi 02.21.23	My friend streamed 3 in a discord call out of curiosity and honestly it wasn’t terrible
Zac124 02.21.23	4 - no 5 - kinda 6 - yes 8 - no 9 - yes Haven't listened to the rest.
IsisScript80 02.21.23	I don't hate 'Gore', but genuinely feel that it's the weakest Deftones. Probably played it two/three in full and found it very disappointing. 'Load' (and 'Reload') I think have some very strong material, spread amongst a whole heap of mid. They've proven time and again that they can't self-edit and this is one of many examples. Much of the hate though, came with the abandonment of metal, a full embrace of southern hard rock and cutting of hair. These aspects never bothered me too much, as this period brought us things like 'The Outlaw Torn' and (non-album derpiness) 'No Leaf Clover' which I always dug. Wasn't inherently a deal-breaker. Other albums listed never really interested me much in the first place.
MissMorley88 02.21.23	I was re-listening to "Load" and "Re-load" respectively some weeks ago and I think both are very solid efforts and definitely don't deserve all this criticism. Sadly, I was underwhelmed by "Gore" (considering Deftones pretty high quality standards) but definitely have to give the album a few more spins before judging it. Not sure about the other albums on your list.
Thibs 02.21.23	mostly ya, but I liked Wrath and Heritage has some cool moments
Vercetti 02.21.23	I like it when bands try something new. Even if they fail at it or it doesn't speak to their usual fans. I think Korn were very brave when they made Path of Totality and I have a lot of respect for that. So for those albums I've listened to: 3 - no 4 - no 5 - no 9 - not a fan, but wouldn't say it deserves 'hate'
Trifolium 02.21.23	8 NO! Poor 8.
YoYoMancuso 02.21.23	i don't think 4 is hated so much as it's disappointing
AeniasGaming 02.21.23	[deleted]
JKing92 02.21.23	People hated 4? I think it's their fourth best album (White Pony, Around the Fur, and Ohms are my top three, respectively). Outside of that, though, 5 is not great but definitely interesting (a lot more so than what their thrash metal peers were doing around that time), and I've heard 3 and it's pretty bad (and I love the first Korn album, and I like a few other tracks from them like "Freak on a Leash"). The rest of the albums on the list I haven't heard, but most of them I'm not interested in -- I don't like In Flames, Opeth, Mudvayne, and Lamb of God, I've always wanted to like Fear Factory and Machine Head more than I actually do, the only Megadeth albums I truly love are Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction, the solo Corey Taylor album didn't interest me, I'm not a huge Sepultura fan outside of Roots (their one album I really like), and solo Ozzy is decent enough but nowhere near as terrific as self-titled-through-Master of Reality-era Sabbath. Interesting list, though, I can say.
JoyfulPlatypus 02.21.23	I've always liked 5 tbh, but that's really the only one on this list I'm familiar with.
AlexKzillion 02.21.23	i will defend load until my dying breath
AlexKzillion 02.21.23	also don't think gore would get too much hate if it didn't sound like shit, songs are mostly fine even if kinda mid by deftones standards
porcupinetheater 02.21.23	Heritage is one of the best Opeth albums Rest of their prog era since has been mediocre and Heritage got that creeping atmosphere
JohnnyoftheWell 02.21.23	Would rather jam Heritage over Damnation/Deliverance/Ghost Revs any day
BAT 02.21.23	3 4 5 and 8 are passable but inessential. The rest I'd been shyd away from and never heard
Sniff 02.21.23	Yes
bellovddd 02.22.23	cmft sure as hell does.
Sinternet 02.22.23	4 is mid-tier deftones s/t, around the fur and possibly ohms are all worse
Ragnavius 02.22.23	Yes.
Dwap 02.22.23	No, Yes, Yes, No, No, Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, Yes, No
rockarollacola 02.22.23	11 doesn't. Fun album with some hard jams.
Muzz79 02.22.23	1, 2, 5, 8, 13 no
Trifolium 02.23.23	porc and Johnny yes!!!!! And DWAP and Muzz! 8 is overhated, we can conclude that now.
FrozenFirebug 02.23.23	1 - yes fear factory is boring 2 - yes 3 - no this album is actually a masterpiece in the way it seamlessly blends pop song structures and nu metal instrumentation with golden age brostep sounds - close to perfect as electronic rock will ever get both conceptually and in execution 4 - the production fucking sucks and chino sounds stupid on half the tracks but it's bearable, could go either way 5 - no 6 - no 7 - yes . 9 - average at best, slightly disappointing at worst, not worth thought at all . . 12 - average, not worth thought at all .
sneakers 07.18.23	yes to eveyrthing except heritage
DavidYowi 07.18.23	My friend streamed The Path of Totality as a joke and it turned out to be way less terrible than we were expecting. Against actually has some neat moments even if it feels overshadowed by Roots
Boognish79 01.24.24	1,4,8 absolutely not. Load doesn’t deserve as much hate as it received, but isn’t more than a 3 in my book.
efp123 01.24.24	4 doesn’t
pizzamachine 01.24.24	Albums in general deserve more love than hate
bellovddd 01.24.24	cmft doesnt