Muzz79: Metal bands of the decade//s

Muzz79 07.26.21	Often contemplated this list. These are my picks
Titan 07.26.21	correction: 80's: Iron Maiden
charbyno 07.26.21	I agree with Titan - 80s is Iron Maiden
Titan 07.26.21	for the 90's, I'm going with the Dream Theater Fates Warning tag team
Inoculaeted 07.26.21	From 2002-2009 Mastodon released Remission, Leviathan, Blood Mountain, and Crack the Skye. I love that KsE album but there’s no other answer for the 00s than Mastodon for me. Edit. Extremely strong case for Opeth too.
Josh D. 07.26.21	gonna start a petition to stop calling Faith No More a metal band
porcupinetheater 07.26.21	Most impact/influential for the 10s prob Deafheaven tho
Keyblade 07.26.21	opeth did release BWP through to Watershed in the 00's
Pon 07.26.21	Amon Amarth being described as innovative is an interesting one
Keyblade 07.26.21	how many other bands can make the same album 10 times in a row tho
OllieS 07.26.21	Ghost??
TheSonomaDude 07.26.21	is ghost metal?
Muzz79 07.26.21	80's yeah either Maiden or Metallica but I reckon the latter was more pivotal for the development of heavy metal Faith No More is there for a nod to the quintessential 90's alt metal band. I'd say Fear Factory as well for 90's. Agree with Opeth and Mastodon. Both had exceptional decades in 00's but so did Amon Amarth imo When I think of what was different in metal last decade, I think of Ghost who are metal more than anything else aren't they?
rockarollacola 07.26.21	70's - Sabbath RU: Deep Purple 80's - Maiden/Priest (I prefer Priest, but Maiden deserves the dub too) RU: Metallica 90's - Death RU: Tool 00's - Slipknot RU: Avenged Sevenfold 10's - Ghost (Ghost is metal) RU: Mastodon
Inoculaeted 07.27.21	Slipknot is a good idea but their debut is 1999 and that was a biggie so it kinda splits their output between decades.
Hawks 07.27.21	Ghost is so bad men.
rockarollacola 07.27.21	Hawks doesn't like Ghost.
Muzz79 07.27.21	Don’t like ghost hawks? My interest has waned in them tbh Solid rocka. All those bands owned that decade
DefOs 07.27.21	70 Sabbath --> 80s Maiden --> 90s Death/Pantera --> 00s Mastodon/Opeth --> 10s Vektor/Dillinger Escape Plan/Gojira (too soon, time will tell)
Sevengill 07.27.21	^ best list so far
chemicalmarriage 07.27.21	Opeth
Muzz79 08.11.21	Nah 80's Metallica over 80's Maiden any day
Kusangii 08.11.21	Killswitch Engage lol
Muzz79 08.11.21	Your pick?
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	amazing idea muzz great list. hmm
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	I had no idea this Ghost band existed until just now and they have 10 to 30 million views on the first two songs i looked up on youtube.
Muzz79 08.11.21	Ha. I grew up through most of it so watched it evolve
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	I could probably do this a couple ways. the easier way is how my early childhood went with metal before i was a teenager 70s: Black Sabbath 80s: Metallica 90s: Geezer Butler 2000s: In Flames
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	I was born in 1990
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	the 2010s feel almost impossible to pick.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	people don't know but in the mid 90s Geezer Butler invented nu-metal and a couple other niches Black Science is the second studio album by heavy metal band GZR. It was released on July 1, 1997 by TVT Records. The cover art for the album is intended to represent the Black Sabbath song "Hand of Doom". Geezer about the Doctor Who connection in the song "Among the Cybermen": "Yes, the lyrics were originally about the death of Doctor Who. The original chorus was "Doctor Who lies dead among the Cybermen", about the final battle of Dr. Who, but was supposed to be symbolic of the end of childhood. I changed it because I thought it sounded a bit silly. Most of the album is about growing up in the era of Sixties television, and its influence on me."
Muzz79 08.11.21	Shit didn't know Geezer Butler had a solo career. 2010's very hard. Ghost was mentioned as they were quite different from everything else and will be forever remembered as a 2010's band
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	if i made a list of the 100 greatest metal songs there would probably be 5 to 10 songs on there from Geezer Butlers solo career. fucking incredible writer.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	http://www.geezerbutler.com/audio/
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	Burton Bell (Fear Factory) was the lead singer for the 1995 Geezer Butler album and Clark Brown was the lead singer for the next two albums.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	I guess it's kinda crazy that Demanufacture and Plastic Planet came out the same year.
Muzz79 08.11.21	Well I'll be damned. i've been into FF since demanufacture release but never come across GZR
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	god it's so good too.
quetzal 08.11.21	70s: sabbath 80s: celtic frost 90s: darkthrone 00s: agalloch 10s: thou
quetzal 08.11.21	enslaved's best material is not in the 10s
Muzz79 08.11.21	I'd argue it is
Scheumke 08.11.21	70's Sabbath 80's Metallica (Maiden runner up) - late 80's / early 90's - Guns n' Roses 90's Nirvana - late 90's / early 00's - Linkin Park (Slipknot and Tool runners up. I hate that Nickelback might have a spot here) 00's Opeth (Mastodon runner up, in terms of popularity and inciting clones I think Disturbed could have a place here) 10's Gojira (Probably Bring me the Horizon runners up) Purely talking influence here, not quality.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	surely this is not supposed to be objective though.
Scheumke 08.11.21	Owh I might've mistaken it. I filled in the takes from bands who I think had the biggest influence in the landscape at the time. Are we doing something else?
Muzz79 08.11.21	No it is supposed to be objective. Ha. Certainly 70’s, 80’s, 90’s is but 00’s and 10’s is bit more subjective depending on leanings
SitarHero 08.11.21	Yo Scheum, I agree with your 00s and 10s, but how on earth are GnR and Nirvana metal bands? If anything Soundgarden and AiC should get the nod since they were way more metal than Nirvana.
Scheumke 08.11.21	Nah they're hardrock (you could make an argument for GnR being glamrock/hairmetal) and grunge, but I do think they changed the metal landscape around them quite a bit and influenced a lot of metal bands.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	i made my list wrong then lol
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	i feel like Bring Me The Horizon is an easy 2010s answer.
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	70s: Black Sabbath 80s: Metallica 90s: Pantera 2000s: Linkin Park 2010s: Bring Me The Horizon
Storm In A Teacup 08.11.21	"I hate that Nickelback might have a spot here)" pop music was such a force in the 2000s you could argue a band like nickelback kept people from completely avoiding rock and then in turn getting into heavier stuff and in turn getting into even more heavier stuff. That theory is absolutely impossible to prove and possibly even stupid of us to think, but hey, it's not impossible, too bad we will never know.
Scheumke 08.11.21	^ yeah that might be correct. Gotta to be the most influential metalband of each decade. 90's is the only one I'm not really sure of, with Slipknot/Korn/Manson being other possible options.
zakalwe 08.11.21	Mastodon for the 2000s
quetzal 08.11.21	second wave of black metal was the most important musical innovation from the 90s in terms of metal so your choices are Mayhem and Darkthrone
quetzal 08.11.21	"I'd argue it is" best Enslaved albums are Eld, Mardraum, and Below the Lights with Monumension and Isa rounding out the top 5 come at me
Muzz79 08.11.21	Agree Darkthrone and Mayhem. I always preferred the bands right after them Satyricon Emperor etc but they created the genre so yeah that's fair. No dis on Enslaved's early albyms but i really love the cleaner proggier stuff
zakalwe 08.11.21	Have to have NIN in there for the 90s.
DoofDoof 08.11.21	Word Slayer for the ‘80s
quetzal 08.11.21	"Have to have NIN in there for the 90s." For a metal list?
Tundra 08.11.21	Mine is based on the bands that had the biggest cultural impact on each decade: 1970's: Black Sabbath 1980's: Metallica 1990's: Metallica also won this decade but Rage Against the Machine/Pantera are close 2000's: Linkin Park/Slipknot 2010's: Ghost/Mick Gordon: Doom soundtrack
SitarHero 08.11.21	NIN for the 90s [2] Probably Tool for the 2000s too
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	okay yeah i gotta agree that NIN probably does have to beat Pantera i suppose. you know i think maybe mudvayne should be considered for the 2000s as well, who at that level had more of a presence in a couple movies than mudvayne?
quetzal 08.12.21	guys nu metal is not a major metal subgenre, mudvayne and slipknot? you have to be trolling lmao
quetzal 08.12.21	NIN and Tool both made me laugh quite a lot honestly
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	I have no idea how much longer it would have taken me to discover Deftones but the dragonball z movie Coolers Revenge has most of Change playing during the climax. was awesome and i had to know who this band was immediately.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	nu metal is totally a major metal subgenre, it's commercially one of the most successful subgenres
SitarHero 08.12.21	"i gotta agree that NIN probably does have to beat Pantera i suppose." I dunno if NIN beats Pantera, but it's in the conversation. Like you'd be hard pressed to find a metal musician in the 21st century who wasn't influenced by Pantera. NIN's cylinder of influence on music was probably wider, but is probably not as deep in metal.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	that's what i was originally thinking when i chose them but idk
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	The big problem is you have to look at each album by the band in a given decade vs what another band did with each album in that decade and then you are comparing different years and metal bands all influenced each other as well. It makes me feel like we could be overlooking someone like for example slayer.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	Kill Em All came out 5 months before Show No Mercy in 1983
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	oooh and ride the lightning came out 8 months before hell awaits
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	and master of puppets came out 7 months before reign in blood.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	god damn the early 80s shredded the fuck out of the 70s
Inveigh 08.12.21	interesting discussion/list. agree with the 70s and 80s for sure. 90s is where it gets tough. there are arguments to be made for Pantera, Neurosis, Death, COC, Darkthrone (and others) and then you get into the debate of whether alt/grunge/metal bands like Faith No More, Alice in Chains, RATM, Soundgarden etc count. I think 2000s has a similar complication with the 'core' stuff, but Converge, Opeth, Mastodon, Killswitch Engage (and again, I'm sure I'm forgetting some) all would be worthy contenders. 2010s is maybe still a little too fresh, but I'd say Ulcerate, Panopticon, Blood Incantation, Deathspell Omega, Pallbearer, all come to mind.
TheSpirit 08.12.21	Enslaved had an amazing run in the 2010’s but I would personally give it either Alcest or Deafheaven (oooooh controversy!) for literally changing black metal’s landscape. Ulcerate and DSO would also be great fits though too.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	I'm pretty sure Deathspell Omega beats Ulcerate, Blood Incantation, and Pallbearer, but idk about Panopticon.
Inveigh 08.12.21	if i were to rank those bands for this conversation, personally i'd probably go Ulcerate, DsO, Panopticon, Blood Incantation, Pallbearer. maybe if Blood Incantation had more material released in the decade they'd be higher, idk. Obliteration was on the path but I think Nekropsalms missed the decade by a couple months and then they only put out 2 albums in the next 10-11 years
SitarHero 08.12.21	"interesting discussion/list. agree with the 70s and 80s for sure. 90s is where it gets tough." I think it depends on what you criteria you're considering. There are at least four I can think of; popularity, influence, innovation, and general quality of output.
Inveigh 08.12.21	Using that criteria it's gotta be Pantera, or maybe RATM
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	you have Pantera influence and you have Dimebag Darrell influence with one band. i imagine Phil and Vin also obviously influenced a shit ton of people
SitarHero 08.12.21	Yeah, I'd go with Pantera for the influence factor. It gets even more interesting in the 2000s though. Killswitch didn't chart as well as I thought it did. I think Slipknot, Mastodon and Opeth are the main contenders.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	it's probably like how tv shows do demographics where the 18 to 35 or whatever is most important. i bet killswitch measures up more equally to those bands if there was some kind of measurement in music like that. you have older people that get into mastadon and opeth and slipknot easier but the youth comes in full force for killswitch engage
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	and that youth is the one you want to influence most
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	we should IP ban all the trolls and shit users except me and also ghost for his legal and business expertise and turn sputnik into a think tank.
SitarHero 08.12.21	RE: The Killswitch theory, I've read articles that assert that the vast majority of people only get into music (usually pop, but probably applicable to other genres) during the 13-25 phase. Therefore most of those bands' fanbases are going to be people who discovered them in their youth and the demographic itself is not going to be different. I think it's illustrative of how far the internet had come in the 2000s that bands like Opeth and Mastodon who had no music videos and no mainstream airplay were basically just as popular, if not more popular on a global level, than a more mainstream band like Killswitch. On the other hand, I remember Mastodon themselves claiming that they only started getting popular when they started touring with older more regular rock bands and less metal bands because they appealed more to older rockers than younger metalheads, so there's that.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	very good point right there.
Scheumke 08.12.21	I think you might have to split this up or something, 'cus I see people interpret this in two ways. Like said above, second wave of black metal might be the most important subgenre for the extreme metal genres, but that had very little to no effect on the 'mainstream' metal genres. If you look at the way the landscape changed in the less mainstream genres I think for 10's you can even start looking at a Periphery for a specific field, but mainstream I think BmtH was the biggest influencer. I think the same goes for most of the other decades.
quetzal 08.12.21	"nu metal is totally a major metal subgenre, it's commercially one of the most successful subgenres" commercially? metal is not a commercial style of music, that's irrelevant. nu metal is puny compared to black and death metal, it doesn't even begin to approach the importance of those styles. there are several orders of magnitude more bands influenced by mayhem than slipknot, it is not even CLOSE.
quetzal 08.12.21	"I would personally give it either Alcest or Deafheaven (oooooh controversy!) for literally changing black metal’s landscape." Alcest, sure. Deafheaven? By the time they came out blackgaze had been around for like half a decade and there were scores of blackgaze bands, I wouldn't give them credit for aping a sound (poorly).
SitarHero 08.12.21	"there are several orders of magnitude more bands influenced by mayhem than slipknot, it is not even CLOSE." Sounds like you're living in a bubble.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.21	"metal is not a commercial style of music" Sounds like you're living in a bubble.
Muzz79 08.12.21	Yeah it was most influential and best releases. Alcest is a real good one for 2010's.
Faenrir 12.07.21	2010 is vektor Also 90s = Death
CottonSalad 12.07.21	70s Sabbath 80s Maiden 90s Death 00s Opeth 10s Ulcerate
Ryus 12.07.21	70s: deep purple i guess 80s: bathory 90s: immolation 2000s: maudlin of the well 2010s: defeated sanity edit: just realized this isnt just supposed to be our faves but whatever
evilford 12.07.21	70s - priest 80s - voivod 90s - gorguts 00s - meshuggah 10s - ulcerate
CottonSalad 12.07.21	Meshuggah for 00s is probably the right call tbh
Demon of the Fall 12.07.21	Some interesting answers here, I think it's quite hard to quantify tbh. As much as I love metal, there's no way I could answer this without just taking educated guesses because are we looking at the overall influence within the wider genre i.e. other musicians, or are we simply talking about sales? We could be giving merit to overall development of the genre in terms of progression, but that's not always going to correlate with sales. I think a lot of these answers seem feasible in some way... Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, Deep Purple/Rainbow, Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Voivod, Celtic Frost, Bathory, Mercyful Fate, Immortal, Morbid Angel, In Flames, Death, Atheist, Opeth, Gorguts, Darkthrone, Slipknot, SOAD, Cradle of Filth, Neurosis, Isis, Mastodon, Meshuggah, Ulcerate etc. Clearly many of these answers are not comparable in sales terms, or mainstream appeal, but have helped with the development of specific subgenres. This is obviously in no way an exhaustive list. For me personally Mastodon were enormously important and I wouldn't enjoy the music I do without them. Are they right up there with the all-time important metal bands, probably not, but again it depends on how your judging this.
evilford 12.07.21	Words
evilford 12.07.21	Demon u forget this is sputnik, u aren't supposed to use logic