Rowan5215: top 20 enter shikari

Rowan5215 02.12.20	@SteakByrnes @MortimusPrime
ItsTheSquirrel 02.12.20	I've only heard The Spark but that number 1 pick is correct
kalkwiese 02.12.20	Wow, The Bank of England is pretty high on this list. It's one of the lesser tracks off The Mindsweep imo, what do you like about it?
peekatoad 02.12.20	Fairly good song choices. Except get rid of the spark stuff
Rowan5215 02.12.20	"It's one of the lesser tracks off The Mindsweep imo, what do you like about it?" pretty much all of it lol. that dirty blues riff with the vocal melody is so good, especially "the invisible hand" bit, and then the second half is sonically one of the coolest things they've ever done. very well-made song "Fairly good song choices. Except get rid of the spark stuff " 1) cheers 2) nah dawg
Mort. 02.12.20	these are some good choices tbh except for destabilise which i cant really stand no Thumper either
Mort. 02.12.20	hectic and adieu are in my top 5 as well probs
SteakByrnes 02.12.20	Dude Rowan FUCK yea good list I would have OK Time For Plan B on here and a few others, but very nice choices brother. Anything Can Happen In The Next Half Hour is probably my number 1 forever
Mort. 02.12.20	which version tho, cos the only answer is the og version with the sample still in it
SteakByrnes 02.12.20	You already know it's the og brother, those demos go hard
Rowan5215 02.12.20	Mort bro how you not gonna like WE NEED TO FUCKIN ERUPT bro. classic. and the Jonny & the Snipers version lmao "I would have OK Time For Plan B on here and a few others, but very nice choices brother. Anything Can Happen In The Next Half Hour is probably my number 1 forever" still not really a Plan B fan as you know. Next Half Hour slaps forever though, that was def an honourable
SteakByrnes 02.12.20	Yea Destabilise slaps so hard, that chorus is fantastic CAUSE WE DON'T BELOOOOOONG HERRREEEEE
Rowan5215 02.12.20	fuck yeah I love Thumper too (and my main man All Eyes on the Saint). I might prefer Tribalism tho, Chris has such a fuckin good part on that. if he doesn't sing on the new album imma be big mad
kalkwiese 02.12.20	I love me some good Chris lines on record, but for some reason he is lacking live, at least in the videos I've seen
Rowan5215 02.12.20	shame, I remember him killing it on that DVD after Common Dreads. I remember people speculating smoking messed up his voice and that's why he didn't sing on The Spark. sad if true
SteakByrnes 02.12.20	Need me some sweet Chris vocals, he has some sweet runs on Mindsweep
GreyShadow 02.13.20	I just listened to the Mindsweep recently and really liked it, 12 was my fave. I'm gonna try to get through their discog soon. And shinrin-yoku just came on shuffle after listening to the new song again and wow that was really pleasant.
Rowan5215 02.13.20	shinrin-yoku's last minute is so fucking good, up there with Redshift's. I love it when this band hits that c r e s c e n d o
JohnnyoftheWell 02.13.20	Bank of England as top Mindsweep pick lol this boi has gone wild !
Rowan5215 02.13.20	I thought this was a common take lmao aight I'll take the spiciness then
Mort. 02.13.20	bank of england is seen as a bit hokey by many
Rowan5215 02.13.20	I really have no idea how it'd be more or less hokey than the baseline of hokey that this band operates at (one of the reasons I love them don't get me wrong)
peekatoad 02.13.20	The Adieu (Routron 5000 Remix) is a great track.. actually so are most of the tracks on The Zone
BigPleb 02.13.20	I'd throw Arguing With Thermometers on here, Zzzonked as well.
BigPleb 02.13.20	Zzzonked is already here lol, my bad.
Gyromania 02.13.20	Just heard an ode to lost jigsaw pieces for the first time. What a song! Geez. I kinda wrote these guys off after I heard flash flood of colour but maybe I should check out the spark
JesperL 02.13.20	future historians and myopia are their best songs. also destabilise
Feather 02.13.20	Where the fuck is Rabble Rouser??? That was a snowboarding anthem for me last year.
Gyromania 02.13.20	Just heard myopia and it kind of sucked
Rowan5215 02.14.20	yea I'm not huge on Myopia, probably my least favourite on Mindsweep but that album's pretty inconsistent Arguing With Thermometers is such a guilty pleasure, I love it. that breakdown is fucking awful hahah
ConcubinaryCode 02.14.20	Where's slipshod? That song is so fun.
kalkwiese 02.14.20	The Mindsweep is very consistent imo lul. And Arguing With Thermometers rules, how is the breakdown awful?
Rowan5215 02.14.20	lol I meant to type consistent there believe it or not. small brain moment. there's nothing I outright dislike on Mindsweep, it's a very even listen Thermometers is hilarious and fun, but I don't know if it's very good. idk how you don't burst out laughing when that chugga breakdown with the gang vocals comes in honestly. WE'LL TAKE YOU DOWN "Where's slipshod?" fun song but top 20? nah
Sinternet 02.14.20	i dont care how fucking cool you think you are if sorry youre not a winner isnt in your top 5 youre full of shite last garrison is 1
Gyromania 02.14.20	I heard Mindsweep and The Spark last night and the difference in quality is staggering. The Spark is at least 10 times better. Moreover, nothing comes remotely close to challenging Jigsaw Pieces, I didn't think they were capable of making a song this good
Rowan5215 02.14.20	yea how fucking good is that song, turned them from a guilty pleasure into... just a pleasure for me
peekatoad 02.14.20	"I heard Mindsweep and The Spark last night and the difference in quality is staggering. The Spark is at least 10 times better. Moreover, nothing comes remotely close to challenging Jigsaw Pieces, I didn't think they were capable of making a song this good" I can't believe that. At all
AsleepInTheBack 02.14.20	The Spark is underrated as heck.
Sinternet 02.14.20	the spark is balls lol, their least interesting album by miles
Gyromania 02.14.20	Yeah because their generic post hardcore albums are way better
Sinternet 02.14.20	they literally created that sound
AsleepInTheBack 02.14.20	Mindweep is probably still better in my book, but I do love those space-age pop-tinged anthemic belters that the Spark delivers in spades.
kalkwiese 02.14.20	STAAAAND YOOOOOOUR GROOOOOOUND!
Mort. 02.14.20	'they literally created that sound' yeh they dont get nearly enough credit for how influential their early stuff was (the uk core scene decided enter shikari were uncool as soon as they got popular and did common dreads)
SteakByrnes 02.14.20	STAND YOUR GROUND THIS IS ANCIENT LAND
kalkwiese 02.14.20	YOUKNOWTHEREISOILINTHE IIIIIIIIICE!
peekatoad 02.14.20	The spark is pretentious
AsleepInTheBack 02.16.20	Revisited their discog. I forgot how consistent they've been tbh.
Rowan5215 02.16.20	@peeka I'm very curious how you find a 40-minute pop album pretentious and not say, a 17-track album with 6 interludes lol yeah man... this band slaps. AFFOC is their worst and still pretty good
outliers 02.16.20	your answers were always lying on the ocean bed
outliers 02.16.20	also where Plan B at?????
Rowan5215 02.16.20	gotta be real chief not even close to my top 20
ChoccyPhilly 02.16.20	Definitely loving how much the Spark features here but my version would look nothing alike lol. At least Hectic and Gap In The Fence is here. Such great songs
outliers 02.16.20	this means war
ChoccyPhilly 02.16.20	opinion: Rou's vocals on TTTS are weak
calmrose 02.16.20	don't think many will argue with you on that also, list needs Radiate
kalkwiese 02.17.20	Omg Radiate is amazing I did an album discog run if these guys yesterday and their discog is full of amazing songs. Like, I'm nit a fan boy type of person, but I just plain like and/or love everything these guys made.
Rowan5215 02.17.20	yeah I don't think that's a hot take, Rou sounds godawful on TTTS. it's kind of charming with the cleans but those inhale growls are some of the worst shit I've ever heard, they really hold the album back fwiw, I love Radiate, even if it feels like they're just putting heavy and soft sections in random order for the sake of it sometimes. still a great song, such a good chorus to belt out
Mort. 02.17.20	he was ill when they had to record TTTS, hence why the vocals are so weak and why he sounds better on the demos for those tracks
ChoccyPhilly 02.17.20	I used to hate TTTS era Shikari when I first heard it on kerrang when I was like 11. Radiate got me into them when I randomly heard it on radio 1 as I couldn't believe it was the same band. The drumming in radiate is so good. The heart and soul of the track for me
peekatoad 02.17.20	I'd rather listen to the interludes from TTTS back to back than anything off of The Spark. The style of music off the spark is all over the place, and doesn't sound or feel right. I want energetic post hardcore, not a pop-album I wish i could describe why i dislike the spark better..
Rowan5215 02.18.20	again I'm very confused about how The Spark is all over the place but TTTS (or AFFOC, or The Mindsweep) aren't in your mind. if you don't like the album, you don't like the album but it's just the specific way you're phrasing these complaints is so weird lmao "he was ill when they had to record TTTS, hence why the vocals are so weak and why he sounds better on the demos for those tracks" I remember reading this, still sucks though. like they were writing TTTS for like four years or something and they couldn't put off recording until he didn't sound like a dying cat?
qwenta 02.18.20	mothership is n1 no doubt. Top 10 should be full of TthS and common dreads.
kalkwiese 02.18.20	Top 10 should be full of TTTS, Common Dreads, AFFoC, The Mindsweep and The Spark and their EPs tbh.
qwenta 02.18.20	Nah, the quality dropped a lot after Common dreads.
SteakByrnes 02.18.20	Did it tho
kalkwiese 02.18.20	Nah, it didn't
Trebor. 02.19.20	Hectic bro
Rowan5215 02.19.20	AND IT SEEMS LIIIIIIIIKE nuffin that will ever chaaaaaaaaange
ChoccyPhilly 02.19.20	Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Hectic the only song that features Rou, Chris and Rory singing solo? Which would be really fitting given the meaning
Rowan5215 02.19.20	is Rory singing leads on Hectic? never copped that but I could be wrong
kalkwiese 02.19.20	These nintendo synths are perfect for an anthem about friendship
Demon of the Fall 02.19.20	Sorry man, there's absolutely no way in hell this should be featured. Like... why? And no not because the band are terrible (they are though).
parksungjoon 02.19.20	might be autofeature cuz rowan is staff, i forget
Demon of the Fall 02.19.20	ah right, well that sucks.
SteakByrnes 02.19.20	enter my shikari
parksungjoon 02.19.20	i could also be misremembering but
Rowan5215 02.19.20	autofeature isn't a thing lol. idk who featured this, smart money is on acad (potentially ironically?)
parksungjoon 02.19.20	sorry mate! im dumb, please disregard
Mort. 02.19.20	'and they couldn't put off recording until he didn't sound like a dying cat?' probably had already sunk the money in and couldnt raise enough to postpone 'Sorry man, there's absolutely no way in hell this should be featured. Like... why? And no not because the band are terrible (they are though).' fascinating dude
Demon of the Fall 02.19.20	@Rowan: fair enough, I just feel bad for people getting their lists knocked down by random new users showing up and submitting 4-5 lists consecutively without the protection a feature grants.
Rowan5215 02.19.20	lol parks all good, I didn't expect this would be featured either so I'm just spitballin. maybe the band are just that good??
ChoccyPhilly 02.19.20	@rowan yeah rory does the 'and it seems thaaaat' It's not much but he says it so many times it adds up
Rowan5215 02.20.20	fair enough, I always thought that was Chris honestly but Rory can definitely hit those notes (have you seen that dude on the acoustic Paste Magazine videos? he's a fucking beast now)
TabulaRasa6 02.21.20	Great list right here. Would personally add "Next Half Hour" and "Plan B", but still great.
rodrigo90 02.29.20	Considering how the downvoted me in the ES reddit. I hate to say that I still cannot get the relevance of the spark in their discography. For me it doesn't add anything.