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| Mellon Collie: Revamped
Okay so I’ve been on and off for a while now due to some big life changes (which I’ll probably get into more in my next list), but I’ve had a long drive moving from Chicago to LA that gave me a lot of time to listen to Mellon Collie again. I fucking love this album but its sequencing is totally whack (probably purposefully, because it’s one of the only albums whose imperfections add to its charm), so I had the idea of trying to rearrange it into something a little more digestable, since I think the sequencing makes it hard to listen through all the way, especially coupled with its length. And then of course I wanted to switch out all of my least favorites with my favorites from the b-sides, so I figured why not just re-do the whole thing? We’ll get more into the reasoning behind the changes in each song description. | | 1 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness:
The title track is pretty much a must-have opener, it sets the mood for the album without getting too far in your face. It also sets the mood of a sunrise perfectly, and locking in the semi-“day-to-night” theme of the album instead of whatever whack interpretation of it Billy had was a big part of what I wanted to do with this revamp. | | 2 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Zero:
While I think the transition from the last to “Tonight, Tonight” was one of the best on the whole album originally, I decided to change it for other reasons we’ll get into later. Still, we have to hit off with a Big Single, and something that’ll perk the listener up from that sleepy opener. Plus I think the jarring transition works well enough, similar to “Tonight, Tonight” if not quite as glorious. | | 3 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
1979:
This is such a perfect and iconic song, and it’s very much at the core of what I consider Mellon Collie to be about—working through memories of the past to start focusing on the future—so it was essential for this to be earlier on the album in my interpretation. The melancholy tune hammers in that nostalgic bite I wanted the first disc to embody, along with the rambunctious angst of the heavier tracks. Plus it’s such a massive hit that in retrospect it makes a bit more sense on the first disc. | | 4 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
…Said Sadly:
And here we are with our first deep cut. Unpopular opinion time, I think this is James’ best song with the Pumpkins, and it totally embodies that sense of longing and misplaced feeling that I wanted to emphasize, especially after “1979.” The duet aspect really works for making it stand out from the rest of the album, and especially from the previous track. While they’re both slower tunes, they’re both crazy different and I think they just sound great together. | | 5 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Beautiful:
Okay time for one of the weird ones. I always thought this would work earlier on in the album than it did, as it provides a brighter look at an ironic love than the aggressive bite of “Love,” which I thought would work in the more mature, jaded second half of the album. So I kinda switched them? I always thought of them as sister songs. | | 6 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Fuck You (An Ode to No One):
Yeah so here’s another one of the “rambunctious angsty heavy songs” I mentioned. I tried grouping the emotions of the songs together by disc, which I don’t think lends to too much repetition because of how different all the songs sound regardless. But I just love the propulsive aggression in this song and I think it’s very important in driving everything forward. | | 7 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Set the Ray to Jerry:
So this is definitely the come down song from the prior, and by far the best of the songs not originally on this album. I think it’s instrumental to the idea of this album ending in a more mature, hopeful place. I view this as finally facing all the anger of the last song and finally taking a good look at the resentment and paid that it’s coming from. It’s a healing moment, I think. | | 8 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Thru the Eyes of Ruby:
I kinda hate how twee that opening pianos sounds after the beautiful closing notes of “Set the Ray,” but I can’t argue how well this songs continues the themes of that song. It’s one of the most massive-sounding break-up songs ever, and in terms of facing maturity and overcoming the past, this song contributes massively. | | 9 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Cupid de Locke:
A brief cheery moment of respite, no matter how sarcastic it may be, this song definitely fits best in the daytime half of this album, and as this side grows increasingly serious, I think this fits snugly between these two intense tracks. | | 10 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Bullet with Butterfly Wings:
The ugly grit of this song clashes greatly with the decadent beauty of the previous on, shattered through the facade of that track to deliver another solid angsty banger, though this one seems a bit more confident than previous aggressive tracks. | | 11 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Stumbeline:
I know I’m leaning a bit too much into these abrupt changes to say that this version has better sequencing, but I do think that these tracks work well together pared as contrasts and comedowns. This track was just to lovely to leave off, though I did struggle a bit with finding a proper place for it compared to other slower tracks due to its bare aesthetic. I like it here! | | 12 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Muzzle:
This sounds like one of the angstiest songs ever recorded, but there sounds to be genuine growth and understanding of the part one plays in their own life, both through love and art. It serves as the emotional climax of the record, and working through it again for this list really made me learn to appreciate it (I was never the biggest fan of it before). | | 13 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Thirty-Three:
I think this may be the only place in this entire album of pure contentment, dwelling in the past in that classic nostalgic sound yet still looking forward to the future with a tentative optimism. It’s opening yourself up to the possibilities of the future, taking all the pain from before in the album and restructuring it towards a little hope. | | 14 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Farewell and Goodnight:
Coming off of that last track, this is like an epilogue to the first half of the album. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more bittersweet mix of hope and despair in music, and I couldn’t ever abandon it as a closer. You can tell that in this revamp I kinda looked at each half of the album as an individual arc, the way that this loops back around to the “Mellon Collie” opener, but the next side serves as a sequel in a kind of way, separate but still definitely the same album. I think this approach adds to the listenability to it—it’s easier to digest the album in two sittings than one. | | 15 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Tonight Tonight:
See, I didn’t lose that transition! The cut from “Farewell” into this is the same as it would’ve been coming right after the opener, plus I didn’t have to lose my dumb disc-arc-loop things. So I see this arc the opposite of the previous, starting out with all the hope and experience that we learned from the first half, but eventually growing jaded with the state of things (but of course ending in a place of some redemption). I just think this is a totally killer opener, and couldn’t imagine it anywhere else but kicking off the night side of this album. | | 16 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Transformer:
This is such a funky, unique track that moves in such a way that I think it genuinely could’ve been a moderately successful single is it was ever put out. I just love the freak-out at the end, and wanted a little muscle early on in the album, but not as outright aggressive as “Zero.” Also… | | 17 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Cherry:
I’m fucking convinced that this song was meant as a sequel to “Transformer”. That track name drops this song (strangely mentioning “cherry onions” with no context), and I swear to god the distorted cryouts at the end of that track are saying “I need a love—“, referencing this one’s chorus of “I need a lover, lover.” Also I love how the abrupt ending of that tune cuts into the false start of this one. They’re both weird, unique tracks that fit together so well, the transition between the two might be my favorite choice here. | | 18 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Believe:
After two decidedly nocturnal cuts, this tune reaffirms the optimistic tone of the first side of this second half (I hate myself). It’s just a beautiful track that I’d feel bad leaving off, and I think it works far better than it should planted right here. | | 19 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans:
I see this one as a bright mirror of “Thru the Eyes of Ruby.” Where that was a portrait of a failed relationship, this seems to be an acknowledgement of being hopelessly being swept up in love again, with some fear but mostly acceptance in leaning into it. | | 20 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Galapogos:
This pretty straightforwardly enforces the themes in the last one, albeit in a more cutesy way. It’s a bit cheesy, but I think it flows really damn well. | | 21 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Tales of a Scorched Earth:
Okay, I couldn’t resist that abrupt transition, and it works so much better here than with a genuinely moving song like “1979.” Anyway, this used to be the stain on the album for me, but recently I’ve grown to appreciate its pure aggression and drive, even if it’s by far the ugliest song here, who’s to say you can’t use that to the album’s advantage by placing right after the cheesiest? | | 22 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
In the Arms of Sleep:
Following up that tune is tough, but I think that this one does a great job as a “comedown song (TM),” with the atmospheric night sounds pairing strangely well against the distorted cut-off of the previous tune. Thematically, these two songs clearly represent a massive come-down from the idealistic highs of the first portion of the album, this tune in particular trying to approach them with a mature grace compared to the previous violent reaction. | | 23 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
The Aeroplane Flies High:
Okay, we’re calling back to the edginess of the first disc here, but I consider the heavier tracks on this one to exhibit a bit more violent control than the scattershot angst of the first disc. All of the heavy ones on this disc are a bit scarier because they feel just a little more palpable and real. Love the acoustic outro too, it lends itself well to flow into… | | 24 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Medellia of the Gray Skies:
God this song is just goddamn gorgeous. It seems to grapple with conflicting feelings over a love, someone who makes their life hell yet they can’t imagine life without them. It’s definitely a night-time song, as one can imagine the starscape passing slowly over this tune, it’s serves as a direct counterpoint to the next song… | | 25 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
X.Y.U.:
Which looks at love from the point of view of a violent act (rape, assault, abuse?), either way, this song is the counterpoint to what the first half of this album was based on. It’s ugly, contorted rage, all delivered by the band in one blistering take. This is how far we’ve been brought down from those earlier highs, this song is the lowest moment on the record. | | 26 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Love:
This combined with the previous track create an aggressive reaction to “love.” While that’s purely an internal conflict in the themes, this is more literally how the feelings have manifested themselves. Sarcasm, hopelessness, and regret. While it isn’t as aggressive as the previous track, it’s every bit as angry. This is a very clear callback to the feel of the first disc, but it does show just a little bit of hope in redemption. | | 27 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
By Starlight:
Still, given all the growth over the last two discs, it's not a complete cycle. We're able to learn and grow from the hurt still, no matter how bad things may look. So this is a sobering look back at everything, and a final choice of whether to keep on looking back, or to press forward and leave all this drama behind. | | 28 |  | The Smashing Pumpkins The Aeroplane Flies High
Tonite Reprise:
Okay, so this is a really emotional song for me right now. Turning the lyrics into something more genuine by switching to the first person, this song is literally about growing up in Chicago and finding hope in the future. I just said goodbye to the same hometown and while I'm on top of the world, sometimes it's hard to hang onto hope. This is just a perfect ending to the album, and I dispute anyone who disagrees. Especially how it would cycle right back into the full version if it were on CD! | |
neekafat
09.08.19 | Kinda inspired by Sowing's recut of Viva la Vida
I tried to keep both sequencing and themes in mind, as well as songs that I was mad didn't make it in at first
(and yes I spent way too much time on this but after moving it was nice to focus on something familiar)
(also I'm sorry billy don't hate me) | neekafat
09.08.19 | This is keeping in mind a disc break between 14 and 15, and it was made with a double-CD release in mind, thought the "Farewell and Goodnight" into "Tonight Tonight" would be perfect on streaming.
If you wanna check out my Spotify playlist jam it here:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7KdYIKRbzy8y2q6lG0jrxm?si=uJVgTKpzQdiXz9Zimt0TfQ | Larkinhill
09.08.19 | One of my fav albums of all time. Welcome to LA (lived here for 13 years).
I’ll definitely check this sequencing out. | porcupinetheater
09.08.19 | No Here Is No Why = Get Bent | neekafat
09.08.19 | Thanks Larkin, excited to hear what you think!!
@Porcupine, never got the appeal of that song, check my pumpkins ranking from last year if any of you are curious to my thoughts of why or why I don't like a song | Lizardwave
09.09.19 | i can get behind this. well done gentleman. | neekafat
09.09.19 | Thanks dude (: | ArsMoriendi
09.09.19 | You took off my favorite on the entire album X(
Where Boys Fear to Tread
Also, you managed to also miss the best disc 1 too: Here Is No Why
I agree that Set the Ray to Jerry is the best b-side though at least | TheCharmingMan
09.09.19 | It must be a rite of passage for SP fans to make their own Mellon Collie lol every hardcore Pumpkins fan i know has done it | neekafat
09.10.19 | Oh really? I must not know very many fans lol
And yeah ars those are both good-to-great tunes but don't add a lot to the album imo | Larkinhill
09.10.19 | Can’t tell if you love or hate XYU based on that description, but I consider it to be top 3 Pumpkins, top 5 at the very least. | Winesburgohio
09.10.19 | This is beautiful, thoughtful work that I love and agree with cheers
...except where jellybelly at tho | conesmoke
09.10.19 | One of my fave albums ever for sure. Doesn’t need rearranging. Galapagos and we only come out at night are my picks for undercover highlights of the album | neekafat
09.10.19 | @larkin it's literally my #5 hahaha
@wines thanks buddy :) I took it out because it never clicked with me, probably mostly because I hate how it comes in after Tonight :/ | neekafat
09.10.19 | Galapagos always surprises me because I always love it more than I think, We Only Come Out is... good. Just doesn't work compared to the others :/ | neekafat
09.10.19 | This is easily one of my faves too, but this order would make it my #1 easy | BigHans
09.10.19 | Awesome list, although there's no way I could leave off Jellybelly or Bodies.
If we're talking the Aeroplane Flies High, I've always been a huge fan of The Boy and Pennies. | tectactoe
09.10.19 | Love this album, haven't listened to it in years. Thanks for the incentive...I'll try out this order next. | Ambrosian
09.11.19 | Very jarring order I like it | Larkinhill
09.11.19 | @larkin it's literally my #5 hahaha
Fuck yeah man, good to hear. Like I said, your description sounded love/hate lol.
Such an amazing, angry and venomous song. Reminds me of Broken (in spirit, not sound).
I read your full Pumpkins ranking lists (which was such a great and meticulous read, thanks for putting it together), but couldn’t remember where XYU landed. | Larkinhill
09.11.19 | Awesome list, although there's no way I could leave off Jellybelly or Bodies. (2)
Fantastic fucking songs. | neekafat
09.11.19 | @Hans, Pennies was very close to being on here, I just think I had too many noctural minimalistic slow tracks (same with "Rotten Apples"). I like The Boy a lot too! Those two just didn't click as much for me, "Bodies" was on my shortlist too (:
@tec lemme know what you think!!
@Ambrosian thanks < 3
@Larkin, you rule man, thanks so much for reading that too! I kinda did this as practice for a Machine re-edit as a full double album I wanted to do for a long time (: | Larkinhill
09.11.19 | Dude, when IS that Machina I And II Double album/remaster release coming man? I’ve listened to some shitty versions of Machina II a few times but want to hear the real thing. Machina I is incredibly underrated. | Azertherion
09.11.19 | Here is no why is probably my favourite song of the whole things :( | neekafat
09.11.19 | @Azer I don't understand why people like it so muchhhhhhh
@Larkin I agree! Machina went from being my least favorite of theirs to being incredibly important to me over the last couple years, and Machina II is just great. I can't wait for that re-release! | tectactoe
09.13.19 | Does feel a little weird without 'Here Is No Why' but I agree that 'We Only Come Out at Night' has always felt a little out of place on the album (though I like the song, for the most part). 'Galapogos' into 'Scorched Earth' threw me out of kilter a bit when listening but...it sort of works in an abrasive "wake the fuck up" kinda way.
Overall very nice track list, and I like most of the b-sides you chose. I've listened to the regular album so many times that anything but the original track list is bound to seem slightly peculiar, but I could see this working. | neekafat
09.13.19 | Thanks dude!! | HarryBoBerry
09.13.19 | Fantastic idea! I saved your spotify playlist and I'll jam it this weekend | neekafat
09.14.19 | Hell yesssss lemme know your thoughts! (:
So glad people are being responsive to this hahaha |
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