Snide: New Black Malachite Album / Single

Snide 01.23.17	In case the link in the description doesn't work - https://blackmalachite.bandcamp.com/track/these-highways-belong-to-us-single
Frippertronics 01.23.17	why does your drums sound like trash cans tho
Snide 01.23.17	trash cans?
Frippertronics 01.23.17	why do you just stick to the same riff for three minutes with a minor drum solo that doesn't variate in the slightest bit tho
Frippertronics 01.23.17	what's with the random midi strings showing up like it's another song playing over it tho
Frippertronics 01.23.17	you know where i'm going with this
Snide 01.23.17	I'm confused fam lol
talktothehead 01.23.17	i thought this was coming out in like April, why so soon?
Frippertronics 01.23.17	i'm asking legit questions why do the drums sound like st. anger's bastard son what's with the random midi ass strings showing up out of nowhere in a song that's tagged as surf rock what's with the same riff that goes nowhere for three minutes, how does that constitute as a coherent instrumental if it's just that ONE riff split in half by the drumming equivalent of "chop sticks" if played by a toddler come on dude
Snide 01.23.17	It is coming out in April. The rest of the album isn't ready, but this song's been ready for about a month now, and I wanted to release it as the first single.
Snide 01.23.17	@Fripper: I really like the drum tone honestly, and because it helped build the song to the climax.
Frippertronics 01.23.17	"he new album has ten tracks and is predominately Alt Rock and Surf Rock. Other influences include RnB, Shoegaze, Classical, and Country." also this can't you just stick with something instead of trying so hard to be ~diverse~
Frippertronics 01.23.17	That's the problem - there's no build up. No climax. Where's the tension?
talktothehead 01.23.17	oh ok.but good luck fam
Snide 01.23.17	"can't you just stick with something instead of trying so hard to be ~diverse~" It's just how the album fleshed out over the last five months.
Snide 01.23.17	@Talk: Thank you!
Frippertronics 01.23.17	What I suggest to you is to stick with something. Shoehorning in so many genres will make for a jumbled mess. It's cool to have influences or whatever, but there's nothing exactly original or exciting in what I'm hearing. What I hear is something that would be right at home at the copyright-free music that Youtube uses. The production itself is flat, offers little in terms of dynamics. I don't know what you're trying to aim for, but I honestly hope if this is your version of "surf rock", that the rest of the album is somewhat related in sound. Because that there will be the kiss of death for your music if you can't even keep stuff organized and remotely coherent.
Frippertronics 01.23.17	And stop making predetermined dates for your stuff. All it does is make a certain guarantee you're going to rush it whether you think you're doing so or not. Stop making updates every other week for this stuff and actually focus on getting something done. Rework the stuff until you get tired of it, anything to make it translate better in context to the album.
Frippertronics 01.23.17	I actually paused an album for this, so please take this advice for once.
Snide 01.23.17	There is no predetermined date bar April. I've only got at about two weeks worth of work left on it (album is like 90% done), so I'm giving it that extra three months to let it breathe. Thank you for the honest critique though, the theme of the album is to slow down over time, and that pace change will be noticed as the tracks go on. It's similar in sound but not at the same time, most of the genre influences are in songwriting styles.
talktothehead 01.23.17	snide dont take it personally. people wouldnt heavily critique you unless they wanted you to improve.
Snide 01.23.17	I really do appreciate Fripper being blunt with me though. Alt Rock is honestly what I've been gravitating towards over time, and this album really allowed me to experiment with that.
Frippertronics 01.23.17	" people wouldnt heavily critique you unless they wanted you to improve." dude what? any artist would rather have a person criticize his efforts, like it or not, than have someone suck up to him and put on a facade in order to not hurt their feelings snide has shown he can take it, so why try and act like he can't?
Frippertronics 01.23.17	You got the potential, but I feel you just stop halfway and put out what could be worked more upon. Keep at it and I think you'll have something solid on your hands.
talktothehead 01.23.17	just a reminder fripp. i know snide can take it, but then again i dont know whats behind that cold computer monitor.
YakNips 01.23.17	when those strings came in i died man why do u gotta do this to me honest critique is switch up the bassline the second time it comes in, or preferrably all throughout the track. add some sort of melody over the one-chord vamp that isn't terribly out of place and just ridiculous like that string section. and like fripp said these drums sound like tin cans
Snide 01.23.17	@Fripper: Thanks fam, and trust me. I really fleshed this one out and I'm really really happy with how this track turned out. I've actually been sitting on this since late November, and made a few alterations until I was finally happy with it. The whole album's been in production since September (started on it right after Void was released), and I really think the results here are gonna be great.
Snide 01.23.17	@Yak: I'm sorry you died fam, but thanks for the honesty though. Do you guys really not like the drum tone? I honestly love it.
betray 01.23.17	sucks dick as usual keep up the shit work
Snide 01.23.17	"sucks dick as usual keep up the shit work" Thanks fam
talktothehead 01.23.17	i like the drumwork. i havent heard it yet, but i like it :)
Snide 01.23.17	@Talk: Listen to the song man!
talktothehead 01.23.17	i cant. i dont have headphones and i dont want to wake up my gf. you know how it is. #justjuniorthings
talktothehead 01.23.17	na but seriously ill listen tommorow and give feedback. if u really like the drums just keep em tbh.
Snide 01.23.17	Thanks man and I can't wait to hear what you think of the song!
TheSpaceMan 01.23.17	yeah the strings were ridiculous and tacked on and dont help at all, drum solo was even worse. drum tone was bad. i dont mind the repetition of the guitar though, but since you keep adding layers of cringey drums and strings it seems like you werent going for hypnotic unrelenting guitar so yeah try to progress the riff a bit it wouldnt hurt
Dewinged 01.23.17	Just jammed it and I think you are rushing it again man. You should work the drum sound a bit, maybe make it simpler, no need for the frenzyness, if you want to create a climax, play with the guitars, make drums ride on a crash sound, I don't know. It starts like a nice alt rock song and then those strings feel totally out of place, maybe try the melody with nosy guitars instead? And why not some well worked vocals? Those were my feels dude, keep it up!
Astral Abortis 01.23.17	As I've told you with every album you've done: stop announcing/releasing shit before it's even finished
onionbubs 01.23.17	I'll listen to it at some point tonight
RadicalEd 01.23.17	I dunno it's bad. First we have the surf-rocky/alt-rock guitar strumming in the beginning which is solid and by far the best part of the song (cuz you didn't yet have the time to pile 12 ideas on top of each other that don't work together), the only problem (which is pretty substential though) with the guitar parts is, that they don't develop over the course of the song. The drums are starting to set in, and it's already going downhill, because they are so horrifically produced, they sound like Lars Ulrich is featuring on your track. But it get's worse, you launch into this drum solo which is not good on it's own because of the production, but horrible in the context of the song because it doesn't connect at all to the previous part. It sounds like we just launched into a slightly jazzy, jam-rock song (with horrible sounding drums) and then you come back with the (exact same) guitar riff again and it's just not meshing at all. THEN, while the song is already struggling to fit the pieces together or develop any satisfying arc, out of NOWHERE you throw on these J-RPG videogame OST sounding strings, presumambly to add some kind of dynamic to the song. The problem is, that they (again) don't mesh at all with the instrumentation you laid out so far. Sorry to say, but I thought your song was an incoherent mess and I hope you don't take the criticism personally.
RadicalEd 01.23.17	"I wanted my songs to have a proper climax, I wanted it to be more organic" See, I think i detect the "climax" thing in the string section you tried to shoehorn in at the end of the track, but a climax is only a satasifying climax if there is a buildup leading towards it, you need some amount of rising tention before you get the payoff. (yes some ppl/songs may be able to pull it off in different ways, but you have to master the formula before you can deviate from it and I dare say I don't think you're a masterful songwriter) Otherwise the songwriting isn't "organic" (I think you were talking about more organic instrumentation as in less electronic, but still) and by organic I mean that it flows naturally etc.
owen 01.23.17	why do you keep building up towards the same riff
50iL 01.23.17	HYPE
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	I have to agree with most of the criticism here. This is actually the first time I've listened to any of your tracks (sorry, bruh) The song starts off promising enough, but it really goes nowhere. The drums don't bother me as much as most, but the solo really just doesn't fit the song, IMO. They also sound far too busy, but that's an interesting problem since they're the only thing that really offers any variation. Overall, it sounds like something I might hear as BGM in a video game, which isn't necessarily bad, as I like game music, but it mushes together too many idea without really going anywhere. I'd call it average, it's definitely not terrible. But it's a song that sounds like someone is trying to peel out but just never taking off the brakes.
calmrose 01.23.17	song's pretty boring, it doesn't really go anywhere, production is flat (especially with the drums) with no dynamics or anything interesting added to give the song that extra "oomph." The drum tone isn't awful but as I mentioned, drums seem really flat and aren't produced well, I also agree with the strings feeling out of place and going against what the guitar and bass are doing, the same riff for three minutes also makes it hard for me to keep interest in the song there's some good ideas here, but man you just need to take your time, with this coming out in April, that'll be three full-length releases in less than a year, and while I understand you being excited and wanting to share your stuff, that's just ridiculous, work on letting your songs sit, get early feedback from people you trust, don't rush (it seems like you're rushing even if you don't feel that's the case) also, like Frip mentioned, it seems like you're trying to fit or take influence from too many genres, at first you said this album would be a mix of the sound on Distortion World and Void, then you said it was leaning more towards RnB with "heavy bass undertones and country influences" and now it's "predominately Alt Rock and Surf Rock?" I understand that your direction can change, but you need to stop announcing what the album is going to sound like every couple weeks or months because then it seems like you're abandoning all these ideas for the next ones that pop up instead of letting songs, ideas, snippets, etc. sit for some time before going back and then deciding to abandon those song, ideas, etc. for new ones
guitarded_chuck 01.23.17	jesus christ
Astral Abortis 01.23.17	Listening to this now. I don't think the drums sound bad at all, they sound fine for what they are. But your mixing is terrible. You attempt some kind of stereo mix by placing parts in the left, right and centre channels, but there's no coherence to it. Like the bass at the beginning, it starts left, then abruptly goes right, then centre, it sounds ridiculous. A stereo mix is meant to emulate a real form band setting with the instrumental pieces all falling to specific channels consistently, not randomly jumping around. As always, your songwriting is very random and leaves a lot to be desired. Try working a bit harder on making things consistent. This was, as everyone else said, a mess.
Sevengill 01.23.17	it just needs a new riff and baseline the second time around...repetition generally requires variation. the strings are a nice idea but ought to be a little more subtle. I liked the melody and placement but they do feel shoehorned. it's step in the right direction and hopefully this will all help create an improved result on the album cut. gentle reminder that a midi bass slide only works once per song
guitarded_chuck 01.23.17	but guys variation takes time and the whole point of this is just for constant attention on the internet
kascetcadettt 01.23.17	ok dude since you've commented on my shitty ass acoustic release, i'm gonna drop a few comments about your new single and i'm just saying it like it is for me as a fan of music, whatever these bitches (no offense, yak) are saying is probably more accurate but they're horrible users (except for yak) so yeah we're even first of all that repetitive riff goes on for too long (for the whole song exactly), it should have ended like after first 5 seconds, secondly i haven't heard a single thing related to surf rock, sounds like some emo song yak would listen to when he was 12 and being bullied in school (again no offense) and what the fuck are those random sounds in the beginning or some strings and shit in the end, i don't get it, i think you try to sound experimental and stuff but it doesn't work and if you wanna do surf rock then do real fucking groovy surf rock that will make ovdeath pose on a surfboard for his next album cover
BandNewbac 01.23.17	to be honest this could actually easily be made into a coherent tune. not necessarily a "good" song but at least it'd actually sound like a song. agreed with yak you should add a melody over the intro and change up the bass line. something as simple as following a question answer question end style motif would make it sound so much more engaging. on top of that dont make things change so randomly and quickly. the entire middle section doesnt make much sense but if you just developed on from the intro with those chords you introduced instead of adding the random drum wankery it could actually flow relatively nicely. i could see it then working well with some kind of guest vocal arrangement. the strings are corny but thats the sort of development the track was lacking, it comes far too late. the drums do sound bad yeah but i think thats mainly down to how they are mixed so upfront as opposed to the actually samples used. EQ'd correctly and programmed with a drummer in mind they could sound objectively fine.
WeinerMan 01.23.17	bring back the junz
dreamgazing 01.23.17	would be a good tune if it wasn't undercooked
RLWFormula 01.23.17	sounds brutal asf can't wait
TheTripP 01.23.17	open the fucking pit
Snide 01.23.17	Thank you everyone for the in depth critique you've all provided for me. I want to address what you've all told me and respond. First off to answer a question that's been purveyed throughout this thread, the reason that I put a release date of April is because April is my birth month, and because I want this to be my defining album in terms of my sound as an artist, I set it for release during that month. The album is 90% done and will be done most likely in February, but I'm going to sit on it until April. As for the comment on the drums, I really still do like my drum tone, but what exactly do you guys mean by needing more impact? Did the drum solo not help provide that additional impact and variation to propel the song to its conclusion. The strings were honestly something that just sounded really good to me, I could have gone with a more simple string arrangement but I decided overall that the contrast via very heavy string placement where it was high in the mix was the best approach.
Evreaia 01.23.17	I'm not sure what everyone's problem with the string were. They were good enough and broke up the monotony of the first few minutes (basically nothing happened in those, would suggest doing some small variations somewhere for a bit more diversity).
Evreaia 01.23.17	Production sounds somewhat flat though.
BandNewbac 01.23.17	how much was that album art?
Snide 01.23.17	@Band: 100 bucks @Evreaia: Thank you for the honesty!
BandNewbac 01.23.17	are there any vox at all on the album?
Snide 01.23.17	@Band: Originally there were, but I didn't like how my vox sounded on the final mix. (My clean voice is still way too amateur for my liking) so I cut them.
botb 01.23.17	how can you possibly make one chord climax
BandNewbac 01.23.17	i see, in my opinion it'd be worth asking around for vocalists. this style of music is kind of dependant on that in my opinion. Alt rock is a difficult genre to keep interesting instrumentally. i actually feel like with a good enough vocal performance this song could be a whole load better. and to be honest if youre already paying for artwork and stuff it'd be a better investment to pay for a vocalist to do some stuff over it
Snide 01.23.17	@botb: Listen to the song and find out! @Band: A few vocalists on here have actually offered to create vocals and lyrics for this track after hearing it (beachdude and t0rts), and honestly I'd be down for it.
BandNewbac 01.23.17	go for it dude it'd be well worth it
botb 01.23.17	i think its just obvious how limited of a view you have on music.. you should stick to not trying to play music of genres you don't know anything about. "oh its surfrock because there's a tremolo effect on the guitar and i heard that in in the one song i googled" uhhh no its not and it never will be. stick to playing shitty electronic music because thats what you like. or play black veil brides influenced music because thats your favorite band. play genres that you actually know something about. i cant even imagine what your "country" song is gonna sound like.
Final Origin 01.23.17	Had a listen to the track, again there is great potential and I think you are heading in a much better direction than your previous EP. I feel that there are parts in the track that felt a bit empty in terms of engagement. You have some really nice ideas but they don't seem to fit the puzzle you are trying to complete. Look forward to hearing what this album has to offer though, hopefully it will be surprising to everyone here.
WeinerMan 01.23.17	I just ate the best hotdog I think I've ever eaten.
Snide 01.23.17	@botb: Asking someone to "stick to what they know" is honestly a little close minded though is it not? Experimentation in music is something that I love doing, and have always loved doing. Sure I may know more about electronic music and BVB influenced music, but that doesn't mean I want to stick to that mold. Also the main country influenced track "Midnight Moves" is one of my favorites on the album. @Final: Thank you! I think it'll make more sense in terms of the album's progression.
BandNewbac 01.23.17	honestly that country song is my most anticipated release this year no fucking lie
zaruyache 01.23.17	i like how that drum solo comes out of nowhere and wasn't built up to at all.
Snide 01.23.17	@Band: It's one of my favorite tracks on the album so I hope you'll enjoy it! @Zaru: The drum solo in the middle wasn't meant to be built up to, it was meant to be the bridge that built up to the climax, which continued to add additional drum parts to pick up the pace, then the additional strings at the end for the finality.
logicisirrelevant 01.23.17	2.5/5 bud I believe the first minute is a tad lacking, and I think you got that too. Which is why you implemented the little (or rather long) drum solo. I think that's okay, but don't put something in just for the sake of variety. Guitar solos, drum solos or anything like that are what I (personally) call bonuses to the track. If it's too boring in the start, dont put out something after it, change the mix so it sounds good by itself first. Also, strings were great imo, but the ending was lacking.
SteakByrnes 01.23.17	I always like your album art
BandNewbac 01.23.17	enough to pay 100 bucks for it?
dbizzles 01.23.17	This album art is dope, snide.
SteakByrnes 01.23.17	Give or take a few bucks
Sevengill 01.23.17	album art rules
Snide 01.23.17	Thank you all so much. If there's one thing I can say is consistent in my work at the very least, it's that I always have cool album artwork done for my projects. @logic: Thank you for the honesty man, and honestly the reason I put it in for that variety was because I wanted the track to be drum-centric
L4titudes 01.23.17	A new album already? Damn share some of that drive with me
botb 01.23.17	When they don't know enough about said genres to incorporate them tastefully no it's not close minded, it's realistic. I wouldn't add dubstep into my music because I don't listen to it. Trying to add all this shit you don't listen to and don't have a viable understanding of isn't ambitious or broad minded it's just dumb.
Snide 01.23.17	@your: I've been working on it since September, so I've already spent more time on it than any of my other releases honestly. It's 90% done but I'm not dropping it till April (my birth month) as it's the most important thing to me musically I've ever done. @botb: What if I told you I listen to all those genres though? The only genres I don't like are Polka, Indie Rock, and Indie Pop. Sure I may not listen to some of the genres as much as my favorite genres, but I still jam a fair amount of it. Especially Country, Classical and Alt Rock
WeinerMan 01.23.17	How do you pronounce your last name? Is it like "doobwa"?
Sevengill 01.23.17	it's like "da boys" are back in town
WeinerMan 01.23.17	I think it might be like "dew boys"
TheTripP 01.23.17	It's not bad, but there's just nothing special to it... and those random string instruments thrown in the end was really off...
zaruyache 01.23.17	" it was meant to be the bridge that built up to the climax" track transitioned into the solo weirdly tho
Trebor. 01.23.17	Don't use a semicolon before a list Snide
kascetcadettt 01.23.17	botb says some real shit there, by applying certain genre tags you give us certain expectations and trust me i've heard surf rock that disappointed me because it wasn't what i needed, but this song disappointed me big time because there was no surf rock at all
Trebor. 01.23.17	This sounds like almost a song if there was only a lead guitar part
botb 01.23.17	if you think this constitutes a "surf rock" tag then you've literally never heard surf rock in your life.
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	it has some surf rock ish elements
betray 01.23.17	his last name is pronounced shitdick actually i know it's weird
botb 01.23.17	it literally has 0 surf rock elements. throwing a tremolo effect on a guitar chord twice in the song does not make it a genre
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	literally is the surf rock genre. tremolo, power chords. very simplistic genre.
botb 01.23.17	i don't think you've heard surf rock either lmao
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	give me one surf rock band that is more than that
Deathconscious 01.23.17	idk why you guys bother anymore, he doesnt apply any of the advice given and he hasnt improved as an artist over the years whatsoever. whats the point, hes gonna do what hes gonna do.
botb 01.23.17	the drums have no elements of surf rock, theres no shuffle. what surf rock songs have a weird drum solo in the middle of it. the guitar is literally not power chords in this so your definition of surf rock isnt even here. there is no washed out reverb giving it that real classic surf rock sound. the only thing that i could possibly say is "surf rock" here is the tremolo and that happens twice for like 5 seconds. otherwise it's a guy playing 1 chord, a passably decent bassline which is the best part of the whole arrangement, and some weird electronic synth that makes no sense.
botb 01.23.17	you right adolf. idk its just like, i feel bad for shitting on him all the time so i try to give some sort of cohesive advice but i think he honestly likes creating shitty music for the attention so
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	ok but you have exactly 0 surf rock albums rated shut up
betray 01.23.17	"but i think he honestly likes creating shitty music for the attention so" ding ding ding ding
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	lmao, i can say a lot about the music, but no way in hell would i ever assume he'd just be doing this for solely attention. guy really likes the music, he's just an amateur musician. also saying he hasn't improved/taken advice is borderline ludicrous. go listen to old my tears your weapon shit and then listen to this or distortion world.
botb 01.23.17	implying i rate everything ive ever listen to and ive never had any ratings wipes
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	so you listen to surf rock ALL the time, you just never happen to rate it? foh
betray 01.23.17	you foh idiot
betray 01.23.17	god you're just like me when i first joined
botb 01.23.17	lmao no i never said that, but if you've ever listened to surf rock then youd know this isn't it. just tap out dude, its fine, you just want to defend your friend. i get it.
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	"god you're just like me when i first joined" can attest, as i was here only shortly after you joined
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	"lmao no i never said that, but if you've ever listened to surf rock then youd know this isn't it. just tap out dude, its fine, you just want to defend your friend. i get it." i never said it was. i said it had influences. moron.
betray 01.23.17	stop being a pleb then and throw down w me
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	aiight what's the next hxc show comin through atl, i'll pull through
botb 01.23.17	i don't hear them
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	goooooood for you idiot
dreamgazing 01.23.17	lol @ trying to define genre labels
Deathconscious 01.23.17	"I honestly don't see how you all have the time to listen to this crazy man's music all the time." its entertaining in the way that a bad movie can be.
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	lol @ username dreamgazing
dreamgazing 01.23.17	what a pleasant kind thread esp. all this discourse about surf rock
Gameofmetal 01.23.17	same issues snide always has with music, but a couple bits are nice i guess. seems like everyone else has you covered with better criticism
Gameofmetal 01.23.17	uh what's the album art supposed to be btw
onionbubs 01.23.17	its fine. doesnt really build to anything, and some of the ideas feel kinda out of place (the strings) but i dont think its bad. so obviously its miles better than the rage EP. good job this is probably the best thing ive heard from you
Deathconscious 01.23.17	song was actually pretty good up until the middle. had a solid idea there, really fucked it up though.
Deathconscious 01.23.17	torts what in the fuck are you talking about, there is zero surf rock in that song.
Sevengill 01.23.17	@game something snazzy and emo
hal1ax 01.23.17	i would like to shoutout garth brooks and ludwig van beethoven for being the focal muses behind the creation of this album
botb 01.23.17	tbh im interested in the r&b and country songs like i am in a bad car crash when all the lanes are blocked up ahead and traffic is stopped
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	niggas talkin bout how this is repetitive yet they got neurosis 5'd smdh
AntwonJackson 01.23.17	dont say nigga you aint a nigga shut up with that shit
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	LMAO
SteveOffProbation 01.23.17	whom alt is fucking AntwonJackson
AntwonJackson 01.23.17	im nobodys fuckin alt bitch dont come at me wit that shit son
Deathconscious 01.23.17	the fuck this nigga talkin bout.
Maco097 01.23.17	Will it suck?
Deathconscious 01.23.17	duh
botb 01.23.17	yo you can not like neurosis and still be able to recognize a song that is 3/4 literally the same chord/strumming pattern is repetitive.
Deathconscious 01.23.17	Neurosis craft monolithic, slow-burning masterpieces. lol @ comparing the repetitive nature of this track with Neurosis' material.
Deathconscious 01.23.17	ridiculous, agreed.
AntwonJackson 01.23.17	yall niggas wack. i dont know what this dalton nigga is trying to make here but it sucks shit for real. weird ass white ppl music
FullOfSounds 01.23.17	There's not much I could add that others haven't. I agree you need to stop piling ideas together with no direction.
TheTripP 01.23.17	yall niggas wack. i dont know what this dalton nigga is trying to make here but it sucks shit for real. weird ass white ppl music [2]
Snide 01.23.17	Holy shit what happened in here?
Deathconscious 01.23.17	what happens every time you make a thread, how are you still surprised by this.
zaruyache 01.23.17	ok the part with the drum solo was kinda surf rocky, but nothing else was surfin.
Snide 01.23.17	@zaru: It was my first time doing anything surf rock-ish so understandably it wouldn't be entirely surf-rock, but more of an influence blend with alt rock. @Adolf: It's not that I don't expect shit to hit the fan 75% of the time, it's just that I'm surprised that out of everything that could have been argued about in this thread, it was about genres.
zaruyache 01.23.17	The Beach Boys may be lesser deities but their cult is strong. None may besmirch the name of surf rock.
Snide 01.23.17	Tbh I never listened to The Beach Boys
botb 01.23.17	"what happened here" i said i didnt hear the surf rock influences, literally described why and steve lost his mind, couldn't tell you.
zaruyache 01.23.17	and that snide is why you are a filthy heathen
Snide 01.23.17	@botb: I would figure that the drums and guitar are very surf-rock are they not? @Zaru: I'm not a heathen!
Frippertronics 01.23.17	"Tbh I never listened to The Beach Boys" u askin for a beatdown boio
zaruyache 01.23.17	"I'm not a heathen" if you can't sing Fun Fun Fun then you're an american apostate and not in a cool way
calmrose 01.23.17	my dad used to play all those classic car songs for me when I was younger, great times
BlazinBlitzer 01.24.17	It's aight. I didn't hate the drum sound as a lot of others, and, while stereo mixing was kinda iffy, none of the instruments were buried, per se. Just please, God, no strings.
Snide 01.24.17	It seems as though reactions to the drum tone are pretty mixed overall.
Deathconscious 01.24.17	they sounded a lot better than they did on Rage.
botb 01.24.17	@dilton literally they are not
Snide 01.24.17	@botb: Half of the people hated it, half of the people said they were fine. That's literally the definition of mixed. @Adolf: Glad to hear it! I should have used a different drum tone for Rage
betray 01.24.17	yeah but when anyone has anything good to say about you or your music it's usually just to be nice so let's go with a solid 75% hate
calmrose 01.24.17	I think botb was referring to your earlier question: "I would figure that the drums and guitar are very surf-rock are they not?"
Snide 01.24.17	@betray: There's a solid amount of 3.5 and 4s across my discog so idk if it's all people just being nice, I feel there's a good amount of people who genuinely enjoy my work. @calm: Oh, well if that's the case my bad on misreading
owen 01.24.17	post your music outside of sputnikmusic and see what happens
botb 01.24.17	Idk man he's got tons of fans in Brazil
Snide 01.24.17	@owen: I post my music on a few other sites and the reception is generally better than on Sputnik actually.
Frippertronics 01.24.17	Such as?
BandNewbac 01.24.17	self help forums
ZippaThaRippa 01.24.17	Is this surf rock in the way that the new FIR is space rock? As in that it's not?
Snide 01.24.17	@Fripper: About six other sites I frequent, most of them video game community related (Sputnik's the only music site I go on) @Band: Wat @Zippa: Coming Home is a pretty spacey track dude
Sevengill 01.24.17	what is FIR
Sevengill 01.24.17	oh, Falling In Reverse. nvm, had to think like Snide for a moment.
Snide 01.24.17	My Snidey Sense is tingling
Frippertronics 01.24.17	Snide, that didn't answer my question SUCH AS?
Deathconscious 01.24.17	"what is FIR" "oh, Falling In Reverse. nvm, had to think like Snide for a moment." Lol
Snide 01.25.17	@Fripper: Hive, Smogon, several Steam / Discord groups, and a few others.
ZippaThaRippa 01.25.17	Snidey Sense, holy FUCK
zaruyache 01.25.17	"Coming Home is a pretty spacey track dude" adding wonky keys for one section does not make spacey
Snide 01.25.17	"adding wonky keys for one section does not make spacey" That wasn't the only space aspect in that song, there were like five different aspects.
Trebor. 01.25.17	thread has a couple good laughs
Snide 01.25.17	@six: Was thinking of putting the country track as the next single off of this actually.
Snide 01.25.17	@six: How is it a bad move?
Trebor. 01.25.17	That incorrect semicolon is still setting me off tbh
Snide 01.25.17	@Trebor: Which semicolon?
YakNips 01.25.17	please release the country track i need it
Trebor. 01.25.17	The the first description after the intro. You use a semicolon instead of a regular colon for a list of three
Snide 01.25.17	@Trebor: Fixed @Yak: You a fan of country, or do you just really wanna hear mine for shits and giggles
Trebor. 01.25.17	There's an old adage, something like - "if you're thinking about using a semicolon, don't." Although I just used one in my latest review but I'm 90% sure it's correct
Snide 01.25.17	@Trebor: Yeah, honestly I use semicolons way more than I should when writing. Half of the time I think (well this shit's gonna be one hell of a run-on if I don't use it) which is why I use semicolons as much as I do. No idea what I was thinking using it on this list though.
Trebor. 01.25.17	People tend to over punctuate long sentences when they don't really have to. David Foster Wallace writes sentences half a page long and uses commas sparingly and they're all grammatically correct. Have some more faith in your writing
YakNips 01.25.17	more of just a craving for obliteration and burning. along with a good laugh yes
Snide 01.25.17	@Trebor: Thanks man. @Yak: I think you'll like the song tbh