neekafat
01.18.17 | List is personally related digs/puns
Apologies for the gushing |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.17 | Neat. Inception is hella overrated, momento and everything after on your list is better than it. Also dark Knight rises had so much potential but I don't get why anyone thought it was a good movie. I thought it was bad even the first time I saw it |
hal1ax
01.18.17 | inception is lame |
rabidfish
01.18.17 | Interstellar is the worst movie I've seen in recent years, absolute bullshit.
Inception is fun, but it's not really amazing.
Now that I think about it, most of his movies aren't THAT good really :T |
wwf
01.18.17 | top 3 is definitely top 3, order depends on the day for me though. all incredible movies
I think I'd actually put Following above Batman Begins and Insomnia; although to be fair if Nolan hadn't gotten the Batman tone down to a science in TDK and (to a lesser extent) TDKR I'd probably like Batman Begins a lot more.
There's a lot that's straight up bad about TDKR though, really difficult movie to rank. |
Piglet
01.18.17 | can we just derail this thread into a discussion about dunkirk pls |
Supercoolguy64
01.18.17 | Only ever seen Following but that's a good movie
Really need to check out the rest of his filmography |
BallsToTheWall
01.18.17 | Dunkirk (2) |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.17 | @super lol what hows that even possible? |
zaruyache
01.18.17 | Batman is so much better than Rises. Rises doesn't even make sense plot-wise. |
BallsToTheWall
01.18.17 | Rises blows. |
bloc
01.18.17 | The Prestige is in my top 5 of all time prolly.
Also Batman Begins is underrated as fuck. So overshadowed by its sequel. |
Supercoolguy64
01.18.17 | actually i lied i did see the second nolan batman movie with a friend once |
wwf
01.18.17 | 'can we just derail this thread into a discussion about dunkirk pls'
that's not much of a derailing
plus there's not a whole lot to say about dunkirk, I don't think there's much to know about it. Though every new trailer that drops I keep expecting some sort of twist on the concept to reveal itself
Like 'It's world war 2..... BUT EVERY 13,253RD ROUND FIRED CAUSES THE ELECTROMAGNETIC POLES TO FLIP AND TIME FORWARDS ITSELF A HUNDRED YEARS.
ALSO CILLIAN MURPHY IS OCCASIONALLY MIND CONTROLLED BY A 9 YEAR OLD CZECH GIRL WHOSE PARENTS WERE JUST SENT TO THE HOLOCAUST AND ALSO SHE HAS DYSENTERY AND A BIRD FRIEND NAMED ALBERT CAMUS'
*epic shots of birds flying overhead in sync with gunfire and classical music, then the music speeds up horrifyingly, the birds reverse their migratory paths, the beach moves six hundred feet inward, and Cillian Murphy starts screaming 'NO I WONT LET THEM LEAVE'* |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Super yeah, wtf? I thought that's only a film people saw when they saw the rest of his stuff and wanted to see how he started
@wwf, yeah I agree for sure |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @bloc Prestige is one of my dad's favorite movies, it's fuckin' amazing |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @wwf, nah I think he's actually trying to limit himself to a straight war film and I'm kinda excited (but wary) to see what he'll do with it |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @rabid get out |
Piglet
01.18.17 | lmao i have the exact same intuitions wwf |
hesperus
01.18.17 | I blame Rises for the ongoing trend of fascist overtones in superhero movies (mostly Snyder's DC movies, but others haven't been immune). So yeah, it sucks. |
ScuroFantasma
01.18.17 | I like Rises, but the other two are both better for sure. Nice list dude. |
bloc
01.18.17 | But Tom Hardy though |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @hesperus I could see that, but it isn't the fault of the film that Synder is obsessed with it
@Scuro, thanks man, glad you enjoyed it! |
neekafat
01.18.17 | Tom Hardy fuckin' rules |
neekafat
01.18.17 | Tbh if Dunkirk gets anywhere from 1-8 on here then I'll be happy. |
hesperus
01.18.17 | Yeah but now there's a much better movie I can watch if I get a craving for muzzled Tom Hardy |
neekafat
01.18.17 | Won't argue with you there |
hesperus
01.18.17 | @neeka It isn't the film's fault that Snyder is a hack, but it is the film's fault that it gave Snyder fascist overtones to rip off in the first place. |
wwf
01.18.17 | '@wwf, nah I think he's actually trying to limit himself to a straight war film and I'm kinda excited (but wary) to see what he'll do with it'
He's at his best whenever he's putting psychology at the forefront of his movies, I'm sure Dunkirk is no change to that. The only reason I'm worried is because World War 2 has been done to the heat death of the universe already |
Drifter
01.18.17 | 1 is 1 nice |
ScuroFantasma
01.18.17 | Tom Hardy fuckin' rules [2]
One of the best modern actors |
wwf
01.18.17 | he makes turning into a completely different person seem completely effortless
Tom Hardy could be wanted in 47 states for all we know |
Jeffrulesyou
01.18.17 | Always thought if anything prestige was underrated, lotta folks couldn't wrap their head around it.. love that one, but memento is my favorite. |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Drifter thx!
@wwf That's true, but I have complete faith he'll manage to pull something exciting and fresh out of it |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Jeff, yeah Memento is an absolute classic, all 5 of my Top 5s are 5/5s. |
neekafat
01.18.17 | "Tom Hardy could be wanted in 47 states for all we know"
Honestly tho |
Flugmorph
01.18.17 | interstellar & prestige > inception tbh |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Flug, to each their own, all three are amazing |
BlushfulHippocrene
01.18.17 | Sweet descriptions, man, well-argued. I'd place Begins over Rises, and Memento and Interstellar above The Prestige, but otherwise a solid listing. In fact, Dark Knight Rises might be my least favourite Nolan flick (which isn't saying much, it's still like a solid 3) - something a lot more charming about Following, even if it wasn't as well-crafted.
Inception is number one, though, agreed. Flawed, but one of the best films of the decade so far. |
Satellite
01.18.17 | jonathan nolan > |
Calc
01.18.17 | read tom hardy might be the new james bond, that might be either really cool or really not cool since he probably wouldn't be in much else |
BlushfulHippocrene
01.18.17 | Still haven't seen Westworld. :/
Tom Hardy is a God. Why do you say he wouldn't be in much else? |
Satellite
01.18.17 | ellen page's character ruined inception. could've been a smart movie if not for her acting as a liaison for dumb audience members. also leo is kind of a bad actor. |
Calc
01.18.17 | cuz the last two bonds pretty much only did james bond movies when they were playing the character. afterwards then yeah sure he'll do other stuff but I meant during the time he plays bond. |
Satellite
01.18.17 | not true. daniel craig played james bond in the girl w/ the dragon tattoo. |
Calc
01.18.17 | "pretty much"
he also played james bond in russia with ray donavan but I can't remember the name of the movie. |
Satellite
01.18.17 | agreed he's a great james bond in every film he's in |
DoofusWainwright
01.18.17 | 2 is by far and away his best movie of those I've seen by him, even if it still displays all his usual weaknesses (the final third is messy). |
ScuroFantasma
01.18.17 | "also leo is kind of a bad actor"
No he's not |
RadicalEd
01.18.17 | I'd place interstellar dead last, because the conclusion is just such bullshit. And Dark Knight rises is unfortunately riddled with gigantic plot-holes. Although it's epic as fuck.
Inception is 1 tho. |
KingdomOfTyrant
01.18.17 | Memento is 1 |
Jeffrulesyou
01.18.17 | @Neeka 100% Dude really doesn't make bad movies, but a lot of people love to give him shit.
Lotta Tom Hardy love in here if you guys haven't seen "Taboo" check it out premiered not long ago.. it's awesome so far and I'm guessing it's going to be one of the better tv shows this year. |
guitarded_chuck
01.18.17 | tom hardy is the best [12345]
interstellar is my favorite nolan i do believe. Inception the dark knight and the prestige are all modern classics as well imo |
Jots
01.18.17 | i'd go with
1 memento
2 following
3 prestige (2 and 3 are close and could switch places tbh)
4 inception
and then the rest |
DominionMM1
01.18.17 | 3 is 1 and all three of his batman movies are vastly overrated |
bentheREDfan
01.18.17 | Really dig 5, 3, 2, 6, and 7. The rest of this I don't care as much about. |
bentheREDfan
01.18.17 | Also I like 1
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zaruyache
01.18.17 | Taboo looks so cool, but I forgot to watch the debut. I wanna catch up with the premieres at some point, tho. |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Blushful, thanks! I can certainly understand that viewpoint
@jeff, Yeah I can understand some of the criticism but he's still my favorite filmmaker out there today. I gotta see Taboo dude |
Rik VII
01.18.17 | Insomnia is better than most people make it out to be and it shows on this list, too, given that you don't even name one point of criticism for it while placing it on the second to last place. I agree with the top 3 being his best films though, even though my order would probably be different. He's a hard to rank director though. I'd even say he's one of the most consistent directors of all time (far from my favorite though, but I do love a lot of his stuff). |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @ben did you see Insomnia? |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Rik yeah, but I got the feeling that it wasn't as full as some of his other works and at some points it just goes through the motions. It's been a while tho, I have to see it again for sure |
tastepolice
01.18.17 | jesus fucking christ
please stay away from filmmaking and art in general |
Rik VII
01.18.17 | most fitting username ever. |
Clumseee
01.18.17 | I'm really not into Nolan. Hate the tone and art direction in his films. That said:
Memento, Inception, The Prestige, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises.
Couldn't finish Interstellar, never seen Following -- Looking forward (surprisingly) to Dunkirk. |
guitarded_chuck
01.18.17 | man no one likes interstellar huh
i would think that how masterfully the soundtrack is used at least would appeal to fellow music lovers |
Rik VII
01.18.17 | Clumseee, chance is that you'd like Following even if you don't like his other stuff. It's got a bit of a Hitchcock feel to it imo |
zaruyache
01.18.17 | interstellar was good outside of that sort of wacko 2001-y ending. |
zaruyache
01.18.17 | or great, rather. It was great until the ending. |
guitarded_chuck
01.18.17 | it was cheesier than the 2001 ending but the simple fact that it is a bit of an homage to what is my favorite film of all time makes it more than fine with me |
Evreaia
01.18.17 | Interstellar is my personal favourite of his work.
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Satellite
01.18.17 | had to get my eyes surgically rolled back into position upon seeing the ending of interstellar |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | If Nolan is your favorite filmmaker you got a lot of films to watch my boy |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | "it was cheesier than the 2001 ending but the simple fact that it is a bit of an homage to what is my favorite film of all time makes it more than fine with me"
Interstellar is so fucking bizarre, it's as if Nolan doesn't understand why 2001 is good, because Kubrick's whole thing is giving the audience as little information as possible, only ever revealing meaning through visuals, and letting the audience reach their own conclusion, but Interstellar is the kind of movie where characters straight up say what the theme of the movie is in dialogue which couldn't be more anti-Kubrick |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | Always thought if anything prestige was underrated, lotta folks couldn't wrap their head around it"
lol are people that fucking dumb? Also second Satty's sentiment that Leo is not a very good actor, especially compared to guys like Hardy. His best role was Gilbert Grape and that was like 25 years ago |
guitarded_chuck
01.18.17 | nolans pretty great but i think he gives up some of his full potential in favor of making blockbusters
cant blame him
which also sort of explains the difference between kubrick and nolan you mentioned there
the explanatory dialogue in interstellar served one purpose and it was to make sure the general population could keep up
to say kubrick didnt want to appeal to audiences i think would be false but he was less willing to give |
polyrhythm
01.18.17 | Interstellar is best |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | "nolans pretty great but i think he gives up some of his full potential in favor of making blockbusters"
yeah definitely, I've enjoyed every Nolan film so far though. I think he's one of the best mainstream filmmakers right now, but I'd hardly consider him a great filmmaker at this point. He cares too much about technical shit and just isn't good enough at character/dialogue. Also his stories tend to crumble when you really think about them
Even his more artsy movies like Memento, if you strip away the gimmick, it's just an average neo-noir |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | All these young film fanatics who worship Nolan, Fincher, and Tarantino, I love watching how much they change once they get their mind blown by a Tarkosvky film, or Truffaut, or even like a Harmony Korine film |
hal1ax
01.18.17 | that's prob my ranking too, thiswass |
neekafat
01.18.17 | @Trebor, such angst. But seriously I consider him a personal favorite just because of the effect he's had on me since I was younger. I love that he can blend the mainstream with considerably more artistic choices than his contemporaries and still get a paying audience. I enjoy the emotion and philosophy that his films entail. Is he the greatest filmmaker of all time? No. Is he my favorite? Probably, as of now. |
neekafat
01.18.17 | Solaris was really good btw, but really drawn out |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | lol I'm not angsty, I just think more people need to realize that there's a lot more to film than action/thrillers |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | "I love that he can blend the mainstream with considerably more artistic choices than his contemporaries and still get a paying audience."
also I think you should get out of the headspace that how much money a movie makes/how many people see it matters at all
If you said a similar thing about a band on here you'd probably get flamed hard |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.17 | It means a lot but okay |
Satellite
01.18.17 | it means everything. treb just can't appreciate the artistic genius of brilliant auteurs like michael bay and james cameron. |
Trebor.
01.18.17 | It shouldn't have anything to do with a film's artistic merit or how much you enjoy a film |
guitarded_chuck
01.18.17 | [2]
but to nolan it matters and like i said i cant really blame him
although at the same time, how much money do you really fuckin need
i make probably 0.0001% of what he makes and im content |
Rik VII
01.18.17 | Yeah, he's often undeservedly hailed as some artsy movie messiah by people who don't know a lot about films, which is a bit hard to stand at times, but it's not his fault and I really like all his flicks. |
ScuroFantasma
01.18.17 | "Lotta Tom Hardy love in here if you guys haven't seen "Taboo" check it out premiered not long ago.. it's awesome so far and I'm guessing it's going to be one of the better tv shows this year."
Will do, still gotta watch season 3 Peaky Blinders. |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.17 | "It shouldn't have anything to do with a film's artistic merit or how much you enjoy a film"
obviously, but how much $$ a movie makes isn't meaningless like i thought you were suggesting |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.17 | going back to your analogy, if one of your favorite albums goes platinum, you'd def argue that it reflects its merits |
Trebor.
01.19.17 | I would not at all actually |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.17 | okay well when one of your favorite pussy foot emo albums ever goes platinum i'll concede |
neekafat
01.19.17 | There's absolutely nothing wrong with getting your message out or wanting more people to see your art than none at all. I'm not saying that it factors into my appreciation of the film, it's just something I admire for an otherwise artistic filmmaker to be championed by the public. |
neekafat
01.19.17 | I hope you understand I'm not trying to put your point down Trebor, I'm just having a friendly discussion |
Trebor.
01.19.17 | Same dude, you're a swell dude, I just like discourse
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neekafat
01.19.17 | Likewise man, nothing like a good "confabulation" as they say! |
neekafat
01.19.17 | Even tho I don't think I've ever heard them say that |
neekafat
01.19.17 | I thought that confab was short for confabulation |
Divaman
01.19.17 | As a grown up comic book kid, Dark Knight is my favorite Nolan film. However, #1 is pretty wild, and #5 was one of the more imaginative things I've ever seen. |
Trebor.
01.19.17 | I have a feeling Dunkirk is going to be his worst, war movies aren't usually my thing, and it seems like he's going full technical masturbation with this one. I appreciate the fact that there will be another movie shot in 70mm film, but it seems like what Tarantino did with the format was a lot more inventive, using the largest format available, and using it to shoot a claustrophobic movie in one
location
Dunkirk just seems like "wow look at all this shit on the screen, isn't it great!" which I fucking hate |
neekafat
01.19.17 | It seems to be his most limited story so far too, which might be weird since he usually goes full-blown epic. I want to see something we haven't seen before |