Snide: Snidecore (A New Track!)

Snide 01.01.17	Also ayyy first Sput list of 2017 (even though it's still 2016 in CA, Sput says it's 2017) - https://blackmalachite.bandcamp.com/track/dark-fade-single
Sinternet 01.01.17	so you finally found a style that you could actually at least have some interesting ideas in and you threw it all away to do My Tears Your Weapon 2.0 I really don't understand
Snide 01.01.17	@sinternet: not a permanent style, it's just for this EP
Snake. 01.01.17	mfw http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/members/1075139.jpg
ScuroFantasma 01.01.17	I have no idea what I think about this.
zaruyache 01.01.17	Ditch that spoken word bit at the beginning. And also those awful layered vox. Those sound bad whether used in deathcore or twenty year-old Deicide songs. If you're going to do the whole "play one riff the entire song and slowly build on it with electronics and whatsit" route, try to play up the goofiness a la Thy Catafalque's Sgurr record.
ScuroFantasma 01.01.17	Nah layered vocals are great, especially in 20 year old Deicide songs.
Snide 01.01.17	I love layered vox though
Astral Abortis 01.01.17	Yeah okay so this is possibly the worst thing I've ever heard, go back to making random electronic
Futures 01.01.17	probably better than michael snoxall- spooks
Pon 01.01.17	Left my thoughts snide bby. < 3
Astral Abortis 01.01.17	It's "Spooks.", get it right
zaruyache 01.01.17	"I love layered vox though" and we've been over why you shouldn't trust your own objectivity so trust me they're bad. "especially in 20 year old Deicide songs" no they're why super srs old school dm is often lolbad. Benton's vox were good on their own; they never needed any clownish screams overtop to make them sound eevil.
SteakByrnes 01.01.17	I've never been a fan of spoken word parts. I did like the instrumentals quite a bit, and the vocals weren't too shabby either
SitruK6 01.01.17	Will give a listen when i get back home from work
robotmagician 01.01.17	instead of ditching the spoken word part at the beginning just ditch the music altogether. also your lyrics don't even match te song?
Snide 01.01.17	Thank you everyone for the critique!
Mort. 01.01.17	the beginning bit is cringey as fuck get rid of it
Snide 01.01.17	The beginning part was really important to me though lyrically Or do you just mean the delivery?
Mort. 01.01.17	the delivery and the lyrics even if the lyrics are important to you maybe think of framing them in a more subtle way that isnt so overt and direct. less is more sometimes. or just disregard my opinion at the end of the day because im sure you have a pretty clear vision of what sort of music you want to make and maybe our views just clash
Snide 01.01.17	Well if less is more as you say, and that a different approach would make them more powerful and impactful I'm all ears. By subtle do you mean production wise? Or just in the vocal style I delivered them in?
owen 01.01.17	worst thing i've heard in 2017 and that isn't because it's the only thing i've heard this year
BandNewbac 01.01.17	Production is lacking a lot, it's basically non existent compositionally but at least some competent production could make it sound like a song
Snide 01.01.17	I'm not used to producing metalcore, electronic is a lot easier for me. This is just a little EP I wanted to make as a challenge.
Snide 01.01.17	"how about some reverse reverb + whammy bar" Why whammy?
Sevengill 01.01.17	HWAMMY
MercuryToHell 01.01.17	Hate to play devil's advocate here, but I actually admire the constant pushing of new material as soon as the ideas form - with my work I still know I'm yet to find a definitive sound, so trial and error as an independent artist is a harmless way to develop your style. This absolutely could use some improvement on the production front, but the whole 'I hate this because it's made by ...' thing really doesn't make any sense to me - the Black Malachite project for me has shown plenty of promise, and I genuinely believe that a great album will come from it at one point.
Snide 01.01.17	@Mercury: Thank you I seriously appreciate that man.
MercuryToHell 01.01.17	Don't mention it dude, I still bump Distortion World pretty regularly, as there's some great ideas in there - I think the EPs have been a little half-baked but I'd probably say the same about mine, they're just concepts that for me didn't make it into something bigger.
Sevengill 01.01.17	Sputnik is more fun with the Malachite saga, that's for sure. Sandboxing the EPs with the site's community is actually an interesting concept he's stumbled upon.
Snide 01.01.17	@Mercury: Well that's the whole thing with the EPs, they were all concepts that I wanted to do, but not enough to make a full album out of it. My third album is honestly gonna be even more stripped down than Void is (heavily acoustic / piano based, with even some slight country influence here and there) @Seven: Sandboxing?
Sevengill 01.01.17	It means making versions to test how they work without committing to a finished project. A lot of your projects are conceptual and/or in-progress so pitching them that way and getting feedback from a very active community is actually a great idea.
FullOfSounds 01.01.17	Mmmm I don't know about this Snide
Conmaniac 01.01.17	listening now
Conmaniac 01.01.17	oh wow this is not like any of your electronic stuff at all uhm yeah idk man this is not my thing to put it lightly
Snide 01.01.17	Not a fan y'all? Well shit, good news is it's just for this EP that I'm keeping this sound. My third album's gonna be way diff.
SteveOffProbation 01.01.17	yea, just gonna stay with my old advice upon listening to it again. percussion more abrasive, spoken word needs to be lower, riff sounds like st. anger. still excited to hear the full thing tho
ScuroFantasma 01.02.17	"Sandboxing the EPs with the site's community is actually an interesting concept he's stumbled upon." Agreed, it's a weird thing when you consider it though, like when you think about influence it's usually a one way thing (so listening to Snide's stuff will make you ~feel~ something), but in this way his stuff is sometimes also influenced by the audience. It's like he's test screening a movie.
Snide 01.02.17	In all honesty, any EPs I release for Black Malachite are mostly just fun, trying out new sounds, trying out new styles, etc. I love them, and several of the songs on them (Dark Fade, Pitch Dark Neon, City of the Night, etc) are really special to me. But Sputnik does give me the best, most brutal feedback so it's a wonderful place to gauge music interest since everywhere else is way less harsh.
50iL 01.02.17	Decent track for what it is. A bit too short and cliche but the vox were pretty good.
FullOfSounds 01.02.17	Seems like a failed experiment Snide. Idk man I really can't say I like anything you did in this track. BandNewbac is right about the production
Rolling Girl 01.02.17	I actually kinda like what's going on here although the production can definitely be improved. My biggest complaint is the harsh vocals but those are always hit and miss with me, nice work snide.
ZippaThaRippa 01.02.17	So is Cherry Blossoms gone forever?
ZippaThaRippa 01.02.17	I hate your voice more than I expected I would, genuinely surprised
Trebor. 01.02.17	Dark fade as opposed to light fade
Trebor. 01.02.17	The guitar is so basic. If you're going to make metalcore it should least riff
Deathconscious 01.02.17	i cringed so hard.
Snide 01.02.17	@Zippa: Cherry Blossoms is on the forgotten EP which is a small 3 song EP that's got the remains of that four EP concept I originally was doing - http://www.sputnikmusic.com/soundoff.php?albumid=240281 @Trebor: You felt my riff composition was too basic? @Dfevil, Full, and 50il: Thanks you guys for the honesty.
Deathconscious 01.02.17	the spoken word delivery was cringey, the lyrics are cringe, the riffs are some of the most uninteresting ive ever heard, and that album cover is lol. your growls are passable but your screams are lol as well. almost nothing good about this, tbh.
Sevengill 01.02.17	It was a little pitchy in the middle there.
Deathconscious 01.02.17	oh, and those synths just sound totally out of place, not to mention the melody used is forgettable.
Snide 01.02.17	@Seven: Pitchy? @Adolf: Thanks for the honesty! I honestly have a weakness for "dark" sounding cheesy spoken word passages which is why I include them in songs like these. What about my screams sounded "lol" to you though?
Deathconscious 01.02.17	well it was more just the opening scream that was layered with the growl, it just sounded weak. the delivery/technique isnt very good.
Sevengill 01.02.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsSouJ0SAoc
sempiturtle 01.02.17	Honestly was indifferent to your other stuff -- it wasn't too bad -- but this has horrible vocal layering, horrible forced electronics, horrible cringy lyrics, horrible airy and weak screaming, and that horrible spoken word intro. Sorry but it's bad.
onionbubs 01.02.17	Snide I love ya but why?
zaruyache 01.02.17	for the glory of sa--
Deathconscious 01.02.17	satan wouldnt want to be associated with this.
Sevengill 01.02.17	he was gonna say santa
Deathconscious 01.03.17	either way.