neekafat: Black Mirror S3: Eps Ranked

neekafat 12.14.16	ba dum tiss
Conmaniac 12.14.16	need to watch 2 and 4 still. i would rank it as 1, 5, 3, 6 so far though
neekafat 12.14.16	Thanks Toad! I can respect any ranking, they're all great tbh. Lemme know whatcha think
neekafat 12.14.16	San Junipero's probably the 2nd best of the show in total
dreamgazing 12.14.16	they're all too good
neekafat 12.14.16	I feel you bro
Ryus 12.14.16	1>4>6>2>5>3
JeetJeet 12.14.16	My ranking would be a lil different. 4 and 2 would switch places. There's a really funny speech in Shut up & Dance that had me dying when I first watched it.
neekafat 12.14.16	I getchu Jeet But we can all agree 1 is 1?
Rowan5215 12.14.16	San Junipero (favourite episode of the show, feels like it's from a whole different world, probably one of the highlights of TV in 2016) Shut up and Dance (easily the best classic Black Mirror-style episode, the ending messed me up for days) Playtest (would've been perfect if they hadn't gone with that final twist which pretty much robs us of all the character development they've been working at. still a fantastic build-up and great mix of comedy and horror) Nosedive (weird choice to start off the season with but it pays off so well with the wedding speech and the great ending) Hated in the Nation (too long for its own good and kind of lacking strong characters for us to care about, plus the bees are just a little bit too silly despite the best efforts of the director. still some good parts) Men Against Fire (straight trash. oh hey guys, do you watch Black Mirror to get 10-minute monologues moralising about how war is bad and we should feel bad for being alive? welp here you go, no worries)
neekafat 12.14.16	No love for Hated? I see your points though. Yeah Men Against Fire was the worst, but I wouldn't call it trash. Agree with your comment about the ending of Playtest
Rowan5215 12.14.16	idk I've only watched Hated once actually the length is really discouraging to me as far as rewatching goes. it honestly should've been a movie or something it felt really out of place in a season of TV yeah and Dan (the director) said that Playtest originally didn't have that final ending but they put it in during filming. they were so fucking close to nailing it but they screwed up in the last stretch
YoYoMancuso 12.14.16	6. Men Against Fire 5. Hated In The Nation 4. Playtest 3. Shut Up And Dance 2. Nosedive 1. San Junipero
neekafat 12.14.16	Yeah I can see that being a problem, but every time I thought they couldn't go anywhere else with the story they pulled something crazy so I wasn't complaining. It's kinda like Sherlock or other British shows in length I heard that too, Charlie Booker decided to throw it in or something, he can really be his own enemy sometimes.
neekafat 12.14.16	Yoyo ours are pretty much identical besides Hated. Love seeing Nosedive that high
jtswope 12.14.16	Nosedive was probably my favorite from this season followed by San Junipero.
Relinquished 12.14.16	all of the episodes were great, def agree with ranking. scary how these thing could become possible...
Relinquished 12.14.16	"would've been perfect if they hadn't gone with that final twist which pretty much robs us of all the character development they've been working at." I disagree, it's because of that development that clearly shows his breakdown. what I thought was real off script-wise was his hallucinatory hookup girl's lines when she was seemingly trying to rescue him. too good to be true and "glitched" the flow for me.
Relinquished 12.14.16	"straight trash. oh hey guys, do you watch Black Mirror to get 10-minute monologues moralising about how war is bad and we should feel bad for being alive? welp here you go, no worries" feel bad for being ali... what? that wasn't part of it. what I loved about that episode was how they played to a reality where genetic killoff through means of war was the clincher. the monologuing actor killed it too.
Drummerboy123 12.14.16	Am I the only one who found San Junipero depressing? At face value it seems like an uplifting ending but if you give it some foresight you realise Kelly sacrificed what could have been eternal peace for a temporary happiness with Yorkie, they'll get bored of San Junipero and end up in Quagmire like everyone else.
Relinquished 12.14.16	it's not temporary, it's eternal paradise
Taxt 12.14.16	Damn, I think Fire is under-rated. Not the best of the season, but better than a handful throughout the shows run. Playtest didn't work for me cause I thought the actor was insufferable and I kind of wanted him to die the whole time...sorry mate. Overall, I was very pleased with the season. Can't wait for more.
Drummerboy123 12.14.16	'It's not temporary, it's eternal paradise' I get that, what I took away from the episode was "Would you get bored of living forever?". We saw the people in Quagmire become empty shells because they got bored of not being able to die, doing anything they can just to feel something, they were all touching Yorkie when she came in 'cause they could sense she was alive at the time. It's temporary happiness because in my view you'd get bored of living in the same place for eternity. In that regard passing away would be a better option but obviously there's a chance heaven doesn't exist so Kelly played it safe and went with Yorkie instead of dying and taking a risk to see her husband and child again.
neekafat 12.14.16	@Mike lemme know whatcha think! @Relinquished, I didn't mind the final twist as much as killing him off which seemed so unnecessary and just like a "life sucks" kinda ending which I got tired of at that point @Taxt same here can't wait for more, and Fire was definitely not the weakest of the show
neekafat 12.14.16	@Drummerboy, I can see that reading of it, but I still think it's a lovely ending compared to others on this show
G0atC0re 12.14.16	I loved Playtest, and I agree, the ending was over-the-top and cheap.
neekafat 12.14.16	It felt like a cop-out
Rowan5215 12.14.16	@relinq I was trying to say him having been dead .04s after the simulation even started means that there is no character development. he's effectively dead the whole time and every lesson he learns doesn't matter cos HE DEAD LOL TWIST. it's dumb I was obviously exaggerating with the being alive thing. I'm trying to say the ending to the episode was essentially a sermon dictating how we should feel about the war instead of the subtle, ambiguous way Brooker usually handles these things. it essentially amounted to 10 minutes of WAR IS TERRIBLE FEEL BAD. the actor was great, doesn't save the absolute trainwreck of a script
G0atC0re 12.14.16	It was like some M. Night Shyamalan shit.
Rowan5215 12.14.16	except his twists used to be good
Relinquished 12.14.16	"him having been dead .04s after the simulation even started means that there is no character development. he's effectively dead the whole time and every lesson he learns doesn't matter cos HE DEAD LOL TWIST." that doesn't mean that. you know how quick the brain functions in cases of high stress, under certain drugs that open up some of those functions, or before death? not saying that everything he felt in those "0.4s" is possible (since that number is exaggerative - the 4s was better) but it's not improbable. a "life flashing before your eyes" sensation. also, the only lesson he learned was to call his mom, yet that's what killed him. everything else was character-building, nothing more was needed. personally, I don't give a damn about character development when I want from the show is to give me that damn techno-paranoia in the first place.
Relinquished 12.14.16	as for the war script, it wasn't that bad considering what the premise under the whole guise truly was, which I already mentioned
neekafat 12.14.16	I thought the ending of Men Against Fire episode was just another one of the mean-spirited "good guy makes bad decision because world sucks and now we pity him because the writers couldn't find something else meaningful to make us remember this episode" ones. Kinda like Playtest, actually.
DungeonBoy 12.14.16	Hard to rank but yeah 6 was my least favorite. Still an enjoyable episode and far from bad, but wasn't the same caliber as the others.
Relinquished 12.14.16	you mean "good guy makes bad decision that turns out to be right yet the world sucks, now we pity him because they left him with a fabricated world to live like they did with his dreams" playtest was "good guy makes bad decision from the beginning, is left with one choice that ends up killing him because he didn't listen to directions"
neekafat 12.14.16	@Dungeon Agreed, man @Relinquished Yeah, more or less. The war one was like a much weaker version of the ending from Fifty Million Merits honestly
YoYoMancuso 12.14.16	Man Fifteen Million Merits is just an immaculate hour of television. San Junipero is def my fav episode of the show but S3 as a whole just pales in comparison to the first two imo
neekafat 12.14.16	Honestly that one and San Junipero are my two favorites. And really? I'm not a huge fan of Season 2
neekafat 12.14.16	A little disappointed no one commented on my cheap puns of the album names and the plots of the episodes
Relinquished 12.14.16	yea I'd say 2 episodes from the last two seasons (including white christmas) outshine s3 but not as a whole. also neek how is it a weaker version of FMM's ending? i don't get it
AmericanFlagAsh 12.14.16	I pretty much agree with this rating, nice.
AmericanFlagAsh 12.14.16	"the ending messed me up for days" The ending to Shut Up and Dance was pretty predictable tbh
YoYoMancuso 12.14.16	Season 2 would prob be my favorite if it wasn't for The Waldo Moment. Be Right Back, White Bear and White Christmas are all some of the show's best.
neekafat 12.14.16	Thanks bruh I guess it's not too much like it, but the whole thing of them deciding to go the easy route instead of the other and then live complacent in a dream world without any real chance of making a difference anymore
neekafat 12.14.16	I didn't love Be Right Back as much as others but it was great, I really liked White Bear except for that goddamn actress, and White Christmas was really good but a little too cruel for it's own good
Relinquished 12.14.16	what easy route though dude? one was to continue as "normal" or get incarcerated in a violent loop, the other was continue as "normal" or risk either advance a level of luxury or humiliated (in the girl's case, work as a sex slave). they never really had a proper choice.
Relinquished 12.14.16	the cruelty of the show is the icing for me, I love how effective they make it
neekafat 12.14.16	I'm not criticizing the choice, god knows I woulda done the same thing, it just didn't feel particularly original to me
Relinquished 12.14.16	oh for sure, it's hard to come up with original ideas when nothing's truly new under the sun at this point. that's why execution is the selling point now.
neekafat 12.14.16	True, true
AmericanFlagAsh 12.14.16	White Christmas is easily the best episode of the show
neekafat 12.14.16	Ehhhhhhh
pricealex 12.21.16	Dude you got this list all wrong
TVC15 01.23.17	I think the ending to San Junipero is bittersweet... Mostly because the afterlife is wholly dependant on technology and there's really no knowing on what everyone's fate is in hindsight in the inevitability of that happening... And that's not even taking into account of the viewer's moral beliefs and their interpretation of the scenario of such technology existing
neekafat 01.23.17	Either way, it's definitely more upbeat than like any other episode's ending
neekafat 12.07.17	Excited for my S4 one ;)
Rowan5215 12.07.17	the Star Trek ep and 'Metal Head' look incredible from the trailers keen for the inevitable 3 great eps and 3 awful eps for sure
neekafat 12.07.17	Hey hey now they were all great this season tbh But yeah those two for sure look neat
Rowan5215 12.07.17	every season is half awful half sweet tbh, except for maybe S1 which is solid not even complaining, it's part of the charm of watching this show for me
Chortles 12.07.17	Half awful, half sweet, all hamfisted
neekafat 12.07.17	S2 was a bit of a mess but honestly I loved S3, S1 is a straight up masterpiece