DarkSideOfLucca: That debate though

DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I'm voting for my dog
50iL 10.10.16	Yeah entertaining af to see them fire shots Still wouldn't vote if I was American though
Futures 10.10.16	no
JeetJeet 10.10.16	Did Trump get any good jabs in?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	No what?
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Hilary Clinton is a shady, corrupt, lying cuntbag.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Aha, yeah man he had some classic lines. This was way more entertaining than the last debate, I recommend it. My brother and I made up our own drinking game for it, it was a good (Scary) time.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"Because you'd be in jail."
Ebola 10.10.16	That was depressing.
Futures 10.10.16	see you guys 1000 comments later peace
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	"How stupid is our country?"
Snide 10.10.16	"Because you'd be in jail." [2]
Conmaniac 10.10.16	lol i go to washu so surreal seeing the debate on my campus
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Even if neither candidate did as well as they could've, He nailed it better imo.
EyesWideShut 10.10.16	Donald came correct
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	My office is like three streets away from Hofstra, that was an absolutely insane day. Glad that this one was far away from me. And yeah, I think Clinton was better the first round and Trump was better tonight.
Conmaniac 10.10.16	i thought the debate was way better than the last one tbh. more policy talk even if the personal attacks were present. some of the questions were dumb as fuck (aka the first question and the Samuel L Jackson guy's question lmao), but I thought Trump did a decent job at appealing to his voter base and Hilary did a decent job at slamming Trump for certain things. overall i was impressed
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Great debate for sure.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	if you think this is entertainment you aren't realizing the seriousness of how fucked America is and to laugh about it is dumb
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I couldn't be paid to watch more between these two pieces of shit
Rolling Girl 10.10.16	I feel like Trump isn't even trying to expand his voter base anymore. And as strongly as I support Clinton I cringed at the Lincoln comment
MistaCrave 10.10.16	damn it, not inb4 Futures' "omg guys don't take the bait for fuck sake no"
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	@Ian It was made clear by Clinton that this is a very serious debate regarding the longevity of our country, and I will give her props for pointing that out.
TheGreatQ 10.10.16	Much better in both content and entertainment value than the first.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Much better in both content and entertainment than the first. [350,000,000+ probably]
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Well, Storm - I am horrified. Absolutely. But how can you not drink and laugh at the absurdity of it? That doesn't suggest that I'm not worried. And we're getting a president either way, you can avoid it all you want but it's reality.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	doesn't matte what she says she'll say anything to be president and then she'll kill people and lie and push through laws that she says she is against and the things people want well "sometimes things are too hard to fight for" as she has said
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	And we're getting a president either way, you can avoid it all you want but it's reality. [2] That being said, I have more trust in Trump than a lying sack of shit like Hilary.
talktothehead 10.10.16	As much as i agree the debate is depressing some men just want to watch the world burn.and in the end of the day you can only choose between the two of them so it seems like theres nothing more to do than sit back and laugh.maybet hats just a defeatist mentality thoug.
ZippaThaRippa 10.10.16	I mean, the election is still a month away. I am holding onto a sliver of hope that both will be struck down by God in the biblical sense and we can start again anew.
EyesWideShut 10.10.16	sexual assault!! that talk isnt in any locker room i ever been in
EyesWideShut 10.10.16	@Talktothehead "Some men just want to watch the world burn" smh fool you been watching too much Dark Knight.. smh..
ZippaThaRippa 10.10.16	Best case scenario in my mind, Hillary gets elected but then almost immediately more of her crimes come to light with damning evidence. She is impeached and then put on trial. Sentenced to life in prison. Neither one gets to be president.
Futures 10.10.16	damn it, not inb4 Futures' "omg guys don't take the bait for fuck sake no" so you would rather argue politics on a music website?
talktothehead 10.10.16	it maye just be a reference eyeswidenedshut but it is a reference to a truth
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"sexual assault!! that talk isnt in any locker room i ever been in" you must not have went to gulf high school then maybe mr. Abez will come back from the grave and run for prez
ZippaThaRippa 10.10.16	I've always had a special place in my heart for those "this is a music website" comments Yeah because music is the only thing that we talk about ever. We never discuss things like taste in alcoholic beverages and college football.
someguest 10.10.16	You're all political whores.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	@Futures - I haven't even said who I'm voting for, man. This was not bait for a fight.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	People barely call this Sputnikmusic anymore considering how much cooler it is to talk about more than music. Surely music is the foundation of this site, but why not branch out a little sometimes amirite? Just Sputnik.
talktothehead 10.10.16	correnct darkside, you clearly said you were voting for that sweet dogggo
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Oh shit, I forgot I gave that away. #Lucca2016, vote for my dog
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	What's the caption for the Lucca campaign?
talktothehead 10.10.16	id vote for that cool mofo in the glasses :p
OwMySnauze 10.10.16	It was entertaining. Was laughing throughout
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Aw, thanks man :) And it's "no more humans"
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	You got my vote Mr. Lucca!
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Hurray! I'll start the smear campaigns tomorrow.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13895242_1077049339046857_1335335701625140343_n.png?oh=bfef363b46b9caafdf87218f24e120fa&oe=58ABB217
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	you're not understanding if you're saying i'm avoiding something
talktothehead 10.10.16	bad joke for an all around pretty overrated album
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	You're avoiding my calls, Storm. And I miss you.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	@talktothehead it was from "The Donald" FB page.
Tyler. 10.10.16	i hope who ever wins gets boo'd during their inauguration
Futures 10.10.16	marktiny
MyNameIsPencil 10.10.16	Dumb Donald Hellish Hillary i don't know a smart trump lover tbh
porcupinetheater 10.10.16	Can we talk about how CO2 levels are over 400 ppm and almost certainly never going below that and neither candidate (and certainly not Congress) is going to do enough to curb the climb in any significant way so the entirety of the human race is being forced to effectively play Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber and in the long run we're past the point where anything matters anymore
ZippaThaRippa 10.10.16	No let's not, I want to sleep tonight
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"i don't know a smart trump lover" (2)
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	porc you basically said it lol
talktothehead 10.10.16	because no one wants to talk about the important issues and if we made a big deal about that kind of stuff the candidates could possibly be even les s popular for be ing too much of a "tight ass" to the dummies out there :( .
Tyler. 10.10.16	my ro0ommates are arguing abbout politics i cant get away from it even on a music website
Futures 10.10.16	i don't know a smart hillary lover either
talktothehead 10.10.16	i believe there is a log out button you can utilize good sir tyler. :) your welcome
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	i don't know a smart hillary lover either [2]
talktothehead 10.10.16	i mean politics arent the only indication of intelligence. you arent necessarily dumb for being dumb about politics. theres music taste too for instance haha :)
someguest 10.10.16	"Can we talk about how CO2 levels are over 400 ppm and almost certainly never going below that and neither candidate (and certainly not Congress) is going to do enough to curb the climb in any significant way so the entirety of the human race is being forced to effectively play Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber and in the long run we're past the point where anything matters anymore" good
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I don't know a smart Hillary lover either (3)
ArizonaIcedOutBoys 10.10.16	vote gary lol
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I know incredibly intelligent people who are voting for Trump and for Clinton. I also know a fucking herd of morons voting for Clinton and for Trump, both of whom think they are somehow redpilled into knowing some truth the other side is oblivious to. People forget that people can have valid reasons for voting for a different canditate than the one you prefer. I'm not really talking to anyone in this thread, but just an observation about how people are acting this election. It's embarrassingly juvenile. The solution is more dog food, more toys, less people #nomorehumans, #Lucca2016
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	i mean politics arent the only indication of intelligence. you arent necessarily dumb for being dumb about politics. theres music taste too for instance haha :) [2]
someguest 10.10.16	Cats > Dogs dogs are far too needy for me
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	any person who would vote for trump should die
talktothehead 10.10.16	i have to admit not knowing much about gary :( sorry i know thats kind of ignorant
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	"Cats>Dogs" HOW DARE YOU
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"The solution is more dog food, more toys, less people #nomorehumans, #Lucca2016" this is our real candidate right here
someguest 10.10.16	If I wanted to take care of a toddler for 15 years I'd have a retarded son.
porcupinetheater 10.10.16	Gary Johnson's a trickle down fellating foreign policy ignorant jerk-off that wants to smoke weed. He can fuck off too. Literally every option sucks
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"any person who would vote for trump should die" the other options aren't any better tbh i guess dying would be the best solution
someguest 10.10.16	pt none of this shit matters. get a grip.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	GOTTA GET A GRIP GOTTA GET A HOLD ON LIIIIFE
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	okay strike tell me the myriad of ways Johnson or Stein are as bad as Trump
Futures 10.10.16	Gary Johnson's a trickle down fellating foreign policy ignorant jerk-off that wants to smoke weed. lmao retard
someguest 10.10.16	Stein's campaign slogan was "It's In Our Hands" for one
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	GOTTA GET A GRIP CUZ YOU'RE GONNA SLIP YEAH
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	"any person who would vote for trump should die" Holy shit, I hope this isn't serious.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"any person who would vote for trump should die" I gotta admit, that's pretty fucked up.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Pretty serious. Anyone who would vote for an open racist and sexual predator should definitely die tomorrow.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	and it has nothing to do with bill Clinton so shut the fuck up before you start
talktothehead 10.10.16	yes, totally serious. Storm in a teacup totally would sit there watching people die for their political beliefs. no exaggeration there.
someguest 10.10.16	Yes, Storm, I'm sure you have a perfect set of ideals and morals.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	not really fucked up to want to get rid of evil
talktothehead 10.10.16	oh oops guess i was wrong sorry for misinterpreting tha he was serious
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	no one does someguest so good job making a point
someguest 10.10.16	So how can you hold others to a standard you can't meet yourself?
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	racism and sexual assault are political beliefs?
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	so now everyone is a racist and sexual predator k
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	"not really fucked up to want to get rid of evil" That being stated, we should tie Hilary to a steak and burn her.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	No interest in getting into an actual debate with you here, but Jesus Christ, both options suck dude. If you genuinely think that, then you have a very depressing view about many people. People can have valid disagreements on things like economics, foreign policy, etc and can be just as horrified at the people running as you are. Like I said, people can have valid reasons for voting for someone who you find repulsive and NOT be those things themselves. You can't seriously be this closed minded.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Gotta side the dog lover here Ian. Both you guys are pretty cool, but damn, no need for another debate and one that is much less entertaining and funny.
someguest 10.10.16	Wanting to fuck someone does not make an individual a sexual predator. Acting on it without their consent does.
talktothehead 10.10.16	so what are your guys's opinions on bernie supporters going to trump. i dont know what to think of it.
someguest 10.10.16	I think many Bernie supporters are more anti-Hillary than they ever were pro-Bernie.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"That being stated, we should tie Hilary to a steak and burn her." Do you even know what for? @dark I'm not debating anyone today in this god forsaken thread. What are trumps actual positions then? Or is it that he just talks out of his ass more often than giving postions? I think it's the latter. Trump isn't willing to learn or educate himself.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	the Bernie supporters didn't go to trump
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"I think many Bernie supporters are more anti-Hillary than they ever were pro-Bernie." Yeah fuck morals
someguest 10.10.16	Some of them are.
Futures 10.10.16	bernie supporters are going to gary
someguest 10.10.16	Again, morals vary from person to person. Your definition of true morals doesn't translate to other individuals directly.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Wanting to fuck someone does not make an individual a sexual predator. Acting on it without their consent does." Exactly and that is why trump is a sexual predator.
talktothehead 10.10.16	"bernie supporters are going to gary" i was literally just going to type i am surprised that bernies popularity wasnt giving gary more of a platform but again maybe it is and im just ignorant on the subject sorry
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	bernie supporters are going to gary (2) and some to stein
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I'M STARTIN' TO TRIP I'M LOSING MY GRIP AND I'M THIS THING ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	to each his own on a political agenda
someguest 10.10.16	Harry Johnson's a dope.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Sure, let's talk about the Middle East and the insane amount of moral failures of the Clinton's, that should be fun. Or the Qatar, Saudi, etc funding. Or fucking any of the atrociously illegalities about her past. Listen man, I can be here all day and get on the "fuck Donald Trump" train as well. My point is that you can do this about both of them. We are stuck with horrible choices. To point at one group and call moral outrage because of who they are voting for as if they in any way are represented by our canditate is just pure naivety. Fuck, I said I wouldn't fight about this. I don't think I'm doing a good job.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	FYI you guys think I'm being ridiculous with the die thing but as far as I'm concerned after seeing this thread, I was going down to some of ya'lls level of conversation.
someguest 10.10.16	"Exactly and that is why trump is a sexual predator." Has he ever been arrested, tried, or convicted on any sexual crimes? Don't be a dumbass, Storm.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"Harry Johnson's a dope." Says the Jill Stein supporter hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Futures 10.10.16	http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/08/08/gary-johnson-leads-18-24-demographic-clinton-trump./
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	That's what's up Ghost! WHYYYYYY SHOULD I CAAAAAAAAAARE CUZ YOU WEREN'T THERE WHEN I WAS SCARED I WAS SO ALOOOOOONE
Futures 10.10.16	quit spamming marktiny
someguest 10.10.16	I'm not a Stein supporter. I'm pulling a George Carlin this election. I won't have the outcome of this massive clusterfuck on my hands.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	And Bernie supporters are still in shell shock and are scattered. Most are probably gonna vote for Hillary if I were to guess, considering she's a Democrat. Either way, our country needs to deport all people who prefer cats to dogs.
talktothehead 10.10.16	that was very informative. thanks for the read futures.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	@Futures was adding on to Ghost but ok
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"My point is that you can do this about both of them. We are stuck with horrible choices. To point at one group and call moral outrage because of who they are voting for as if they in any way are represented by our canditate is just pure naivety. " And I'm saying an automatic response about criticism of Trump where you say what about Hillary? when no one was defending her in the first place. it's possible to criticize one person and not be defending another, but you all assume that's what's being done. it's moronic
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Most are probably gonna vote for Hillary if I were to guess, considering she's a Democrat." No, she's not. In her words she's not.
Futures 10.10.16	@talk yo no prob. you won't see that in the msm.
wwf 10.10.16	jesus christ trump is a monster
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	If you think Democrat = liberal or progressive then you're wrong.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	Yeah this thread isn't going anywhere. I'm out.
someguest 10.10.16	Clinton's as much of a 80s and beyond Republican as Trump. She just lies about her racism.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	trump supporters have no legs to stand on except attack other people
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I miss talking about my dogs.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Clinton's as much of a 80s and beyond Republican as Trump. She just lies about her racism." (2)
someguest 10.10.16	Generally, a Trump or Clinton run will wield the same exact results minus some social bullshit.
Futures 10.10.16	alright i taped it and am watching it now. this is disgusting
SitarHero 10.10.16	"Either way, our country needs to deport all people who prefer cats to dogs." Why aren't you in the debates Lucca?! #Lucca2016
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Generally, a Trump or Clinton run will wield the same exact results minus some social bullshit." Except Clinton would allow smaller scale innocent deaths in the middle east and Trump would openly target all areas no matter how many innocents. He basically even said what do the relatives of dead terrorists do? They become terrorists so we should take care of them beforehand.
talktothehead 10.10.16	lucca is his dog i think lol
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I watched the Alan Turing movie when the debate was happening. Was pretty good and gay.
Shadowmire 10.10.16	imitation game? great movie
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Lucca is my dog lol But Lucca is also the one who is running, so we should probably stay on topic here and take the focus off of me
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	It was, yeah. Even Knightley did a good job which is super rare for her.
talktothehead 10.10.16	moderators at these debates are terrible
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Gives information about lucca then Says we should start talking about lucca
talktothehead 10.10.16	Dark are you going to be luccas vp? I think u have some serious competition as it stands :/
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I will be the VP, mostly just as a translator though. If anything happens to Lucca while in office, we're doomed. I'm not as equipped to handle this shit.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Fun fact: You don't have to be 35 to run for president, but you have to 35 to be sworn in as president.
porcupinetheater 10.10.16	Y'all quit talking politics for a sec and go jam the new Disillusion single holy fuck
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Is that human years? Because if so, that's racist.
SitarHero 10.10.16	35 in dog years or human?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Sitar, great minds
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	How's that negative net immigration from Mexico to the U.S. going?
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	better build that wall to keep the illegal Mexicans trying to get those better jobs in mexico from leaving the U.S.
SitarHero 10.10.16	DarkSide, I'm fully on the Lucca2016 bandwagon. I haven't felt this good about a candidate since...ever, tbh.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	that's cuz you don't pay attention
SitarHero 10.10.16	Find me a candidate whose platform is better than Lucca's.
wwf 10.10.16	oh my god trump is rattled so hard damn. he's a fuckin animal that's had it's cage kicked repeatedly
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	@Sitar - m/ Your saving your country. If you're human, you will be spared cough maybebutnotreally cough
talktothehead 10.10.16	last question was lol
Futures 10.10.16	i mean both were horrendous but trump actually won this by a little
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Find me a candidate whose platform is better than Lucca's." you probably think the only candidate is a presidential one though so why would I inform someone willingly ignorant?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Storm is deflecting because he/she knows that no one and nothing is better than my dog.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Did he really? I don't plan on watching it.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I know that there is more than one race happening right now and that there are races all the time every year.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"he/she" Sputnik mang. Sputnik.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	So he then?
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Need I answer that?
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Chelsea and Kimm and grindcorecore are girls. There are dozens of female users, they usually just don't put that info out there.
SitarHero 10.10.16	Lucca is scared of thunder and lightning, so is clearly not a climate change denier. Lucca pees wherever he/she damn well pleases and supports queer and transgender rights to also pee where they want. Also, Lucca has never supported the war in Iraq or interventions in Syria and Libya. True, Lucca doesn't know where Aleppo is, but at the very worst that makes him/her no worse than Gary Johnson.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	but ghost is still right tho
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"What are you going to do about Aleppo?" my initial answer would be, "I know you meant to ask what am I going to do about Syria, you fucking jackass"
SitarHero 10.10.16	It was a badly phrased question. Still doesn't excuse Johnson's ignorance.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Sitar knows what's up.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Still doesn't excuse that 3rd party candidates aren't allowed briefings.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	'Sitar knows what's up.' that doesn't mean you do
wwf 10.10.16	It just blows my mind that so many people are so willing to say that Hillary is 'just as bad as Trump' How are they even sort of equivalent on any level 'Clinton's as much of a 80s and beyond Republican as Trump. She just lies about her racism.' like what the fuck is this get that baseless shit out of here goddamn
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I'm getting the impression that you don't like me, Storm :( You will be the first subject of our human slavery initiative
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Hey Sitar who's the General Secretary of China (without Googling)? Thought so.
Futures 10.10.16	gary is the only candidate that doesn't want to bomb aleppo
Futures 10.10.16	It just blows my mind that so many people are so willing to say that Hillary is 'just as bad as Trump' lmao holy shit. 1 corrupt. 2 liar. 3 corporate shill. 4. warmongerer
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"baseless shit"
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	@luca no man I have nothing against you Trump and Clinton are more similar than people think. He's been on the moderate left most of his life in the last two years posing as a conservative and she's been moderate right her whole life and is pretending to be something I don't know what exactly. He's better at pandering to people more likely to vote for him than she is because the progressive movement has completely abandoned her just like she has abandoned progressives. Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul are god damn heroes
someguest 10.10.16	I think wwf should do some research on her voting record in Congress. What do you guys think?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	:) w00
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Progressives are the real left. Democrats and liberals are moderates Libertarians are moderates Republicans are I don't even want to get into the multiple answers
wwf 10.10.16	'lmao holy shit. 1 corrupt. 2 liar. 3 corporate shill. 4. warmongerer' let's look at lying. you can't say trump has been just as bad at lying as hillary, you just can't Trump's so bad at lying that it brings shame to politics
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	you can take two moderates and have them be entirely different parties
wwf 10.10.16	link me someguest. like seriously. do it
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	open racism =/= political opinions open racism = monster
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	So Hillary is a monster for calling black dudes "super predators" then.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	SOOOOUUUUPEEERRRR PRRREEEDAAATOOOORRR = N***************************************
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	ahah ghost you beat me before I could take the initiative, I knew someone would go for that
someguest 10.10.16	https://www.congress.gov/member/hillary-clinton/C001041?q=%7B%22bill-status%22%3A%22law%22%7D
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Yes Hillary is a monster
someguest 10.10.16	31. S.2370 — 109th Congress (2005-2006) Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006 Sponsor: Sen. McConnell, Mitch [R-KY] (Introduced 03/06/2006)
someguest 10.10.16	Hmm
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	someguest is being the most useful I've ever seen him be. I like it.
someguest 10.10.16	48. S.2845 — 108th Congress (2003-2004) Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 Sponsor: Sen. Collins, Susan M. [R-ME] (Introduced 09/23/2004) 62. S.709 — 108th Congress (2003-2004) A bill to award a congressional gold medal to Prime Minister Tony Blair. Sponsor: Sen. Dole, Elizabeth [R-NC] (Introduced 03/26/2003)
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I wish Jill Stein represented progressives so I could have a 100% concrete vote but I've got to go with Johnson who is at least 50% what I want.
Futures 10.10.16	patriot act and war in iraq ring bells?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Guess I'm a moderate, then
someguest 10.10.16	76. S.1447 — 107th Congress (2001-2002) Aviation and Transportation Security Act Sponsor: Sen. Hollings, Ernest F. [D-SC] (Introduced 09/21/2001)
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	his name is wwf what are you expecting guys
sempiturtle 10.10.16	Just popping in to say that "Because you'd be in jail" was probably the best comeback of the debates so far. Holy shit.
someguest 10.10.16	Thanks for the airport security, HRC.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	WORLD WILDLIFE FUND? I THINK NOT
Futures 10.10.16	yeah that was actually hilarious and true. there is a case of someone who did a similar thing to clinton and was convicted
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Just popping in to say that "Because you'd be in jail" was probably the best comeback of the debates so far. " Yeah devolving into an uncivilized 3rd world country and those running representing that is such a great comeback -_-
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	get a god damn amendment getting money out of politics
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	mother fucking election reform
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"money out of politics" Naive af. "Politics out of money" however, can actually be enforced.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	what's the difference
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I'm about to roll my eyes so hard
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Dawg delete that before Futures tries to kill you.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	what's the difference
wwf 10.10.16	hey someguest tell me what I'm looking for because without context these are all at worst reactionary misguided early 2000s bills, not some proof of villainy 'his name is wwf what are you expecting guys' stands for whywefight, was named after a jericho episode, both of them are stupid but don't be condescending
wwf 10.10.16	why we fight is also amusingly the title of some ww2 propaganda films btw. didn't find that out until it was my xbox live username in like 2010 or smth
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	sorry man wwf =( hep kat returned and has a negative influence on me
wwf 10.10.16	nah it's cool I deserve shit for naming myself wwf, what was I thinking I've been using whywefight for a username on another site for a while and everyone just started calling me wwf and then when I created an account here I had the brilliant idea of 'whoa I could just name myself wwf' didn't realize it was a wrestling thing. I knew about the wwe but not the wwf. world wildlife fund is all well and good tho
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Money into politics is an input. Asking for favors. Politics in money is the output being bargained for. The payback. Subsidies, tax loopholes, etc.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	WOOOOOOO
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Money into politics is an input. Asking for favors. Politics in money is the output being demanded. The payback. Subsidies, tax loopholes, etc." Be right back, killing myself
Futures 10.10.16	wwf i told you some worrying votes. patriot act and the war in iraq
wwf 10.10.16	she's gone back on the iraq vote and I'm sure she'd say the same about the patriot act since it's looked on so unfavorably now not saying that it's not worrying
Futures 10.10.16	come on dude. two most important votes and she blew it? not good enough
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-kay/money-politics-political-corruption_b_4559765.html Here's the gist of it Storm if you fail to see the distinction.
wwf 10.10.16	'come on dude. two most important votes and she blew it? not good enough' yeah totally blew it. hard not to imagine trump doing the exact same thing tho
Futures 10.10.16	duh but that's not the argument. clinton is awful. if she was running against anybody else she would be blown out
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"How are they even sort of equivalent on any level" "hard not to imagine trump doing the exact same thing tho" Love you.
ShadowRemains 10.10.16	someguest dominated this thread unsurprisingly but trump deserves pretty much every negative thing that goes his way, he's a fucking psychopath
wwf 10.10.16	'duh but that's not the argument. clinton is awful. if she was running against anybody else she would be blown out' let's not pretend that's true, these are the two politicians we elected in the primaries. 'Love you.' I don't love you. False equivalency etc
Futures 10.10.16	not that i like either of these three but jeb, kasich or rubio would destroy her. it's obvious
Futures 10.10.16	and we? no.
wwf 10.10.16	yeah fair. I meant we in the collective sense
someguest 10.10.16	"but trump deserves pretty much every negative thing that goes his way, he's a fucking psychopath" more like highly competitive narcissistic village idiot with access to a head start business program
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	So where's the politics out of money petition for me to sign
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Can someone please smuggle Robert De Niro into trumps bedroom while he's sleeping
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Hillary is healthy, she shakes her head for fun!
someguest 10.10.16	She has a Meshuggah chip planted in her brain.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Honestly I'm putting my money on Trump over RDN in a cagematch. He's bigger and seems more agile tbh.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	My plan is a sneak attack in the dark of night. Trump doesn't deserve a chance to fight back
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Plus he's a coward
SitarHero 10.10.16	"Hey Sitar who's the General Secretary of China (without Googling)?" Pffft ask me something difficult.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	best thing about politics this year that isn't actually important was the comedy of conservatives being outraged when they learned Matthew Mcconaughey wasn't a republican and thought he was a traitor.
SitarHero 10.10.16	I was honestly quite surprised to discover that Scott Baio is a Republican. I don't want Charles in charge anymore.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"...which is what all the polls say" "says who" "polls" "which ones" "all of them"
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	It's hard to determine people's politics when you only know very little about them. If you told me Grimes loves guns I'd think you're crazy if I didn't already know otherwise.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	So where's the politics out of money petition for me to sign or how are we going to do this?
ShadowRemains 10.10.16	"more like highly competitive narcissistic village idiot with access to a head start business program" you can be a village idiot without his general attitude towards people
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Vote for politicians who want to cut the state's ability to grant subsidies, tax benefits, bailouts, and other forms of favoritism. If you expect instant political change via petition might as well wish for fairies to do it.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	He should just move on them like a bitch and grab them by the pussy and kiss them without asking because beautiful
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	If you expect instant political change via petition might as well wish for fairies to do it. what's wrong with getting things on a ballot?
smaugman 10.10.16	the us should seriously have a discussion about changing your entire voting system
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Vote for politicians who want to cut the state's ability to grant subsidies, tax benefits, bailouts, and other forms of favoritism.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	yeah smaug that's what I said. the electoral system needs to get fucked
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	getting issues on a ballot is just as good to try and do, no reason not to do both
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	For something like marijuana legalization sure, not for a complex thing that has lots of moving parts and needs to be done the old-fashioned way and will inevitably take many years to accomplish. Just being realistic here and since people don't vote for the candidates who want to do this it will never happen so we're always going to have the cycle of people paying for government goodies in return. It will never end.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_4OfD-wmGs
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Yeah you're right ghost. but maybe I should just move to New Zealand, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, or the Netherlands and give up on this hell hole
Futures 10.10.16	switzerland and new zealand very libertarian choices good call :^)
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	what is your unfiltered opinion on wolf-pac which is on ballot in I think it was California and new jersey. I know your opinion on getting money out of politics and how that won't work. but how would wolf-pac getting passed actually work and be implemented
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	lol ya futures
Futures 10.10.16	money in politics is really complex more than you might think. gary says it would heavily favor incumbents and with no term limits it would be a disaster. which i tend to agree with
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	can't prog rocker agressives and liberate party tarians just do this http://i.makeagif.com/media/9-30-2015/87wT5s.gif
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"unfiltered opinion" I very rarely filter myself on here, haha. Kinda why I don't have my real picture of name on here either so I can be (95%) free when speaking. I think Cenk is chasing windmills. Campaign donations aren't inherently the problem.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"Cenk is chasing windmills" he wouldn't dare raise his heart rate that high
Futures 10.10.16	cenk is an embarrassment to journalism
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Embarrassment to homo sapiens tbf.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	TYT did a piece yesterday about how monogamy is going extinct lmao
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	and another video about how all weddings should be Armenian weddings lol, Ana got married
Futures 10.10.16	funny because cenk denies the armenian genocide
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	he doesn't tho lol
Futures 10.10.16	he really does lol
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	We need an intervention for you on account of your Turks watching. Maybe you should throw that out as part of your newfound sobriety.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	I mean I hate Cenk Uygur, but he has totally back paddled on that article he wrote and conceded that he was misinformed.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	his on air employees have been doing a good job of trying to keep him in check, particularly Ben Mankciewitz, Jimmy Dore, Wes Clark Jr, and Michael Shure.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	"the Armenian genocide happened" - Cenk
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Jimmy Dore is disgusting human being and I can't believe that they are still letting him sit there, as if the spitting incident didn't happen.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Ana is pretty awful though. I can guess 99% of what stories she's covering. If you think Cenk is bad, you would absolutely despise his cousin he hired. Good god.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I love that Jimmy Dore spit on Alex Jones lol tbf Alex Jones has done worse.
Futures 10.10.16	jimmy dore is subhuman
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"I love that Jimmy Dore spit on Alex Jones" indefensible position. And I have 0 % love for Alex "they're making the frogs gay" jones.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Jimmy Dore will spout the most random bullshit 10% of the time and jokes 40% of the time and 50% of the time he tries to do the news but he can't objectively do it almost at all. It's funny to watch though but somehow he still covers more than mainstream media unfortunately does.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"Ben Mankciewitz, Jimmy Dore, Wes Clark Jr, and Michael Shure" I'm proud to know exactly zero of these names.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	You don't know General Wesley Clark?
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Michael Shure seems extremely out of place on tyt because he's moderate and goes against Cenk CONSTANTLY
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Ben does those Turner Classic Movies and created tyt with Cenk
Futures 10.10.16	THEY'RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT'RE TURNING THE FRICKIN FROGS GAY!
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I'm more a Charles Cooke, Nick Gillespie, Matt Welch kinda guy.
Futures 10.10.16	ye nick gillespie and matt welch are awesome guys
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Don't sleep on the youngin' either. Can't believe that limey is only 31.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I'd vote for a Gillespie/Welch ticket in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd put a damn sign in my yard, a bumper-sticker on my car (and believe me that means something cause I never put anything on my car haha), I'd register people, etc. I'd give my left nut for that to happen. Well, figuratively. I like my nuts.
Futures 10.10.16	never heard of him, i'll look him up. reason is super high quality shit tho love those dudes
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	BILDERBERG IS WORKING WITH THE LIZARD PEOPLE AND THEY"RE GOING TO ROUND US UP IN WALMART MURDER CAMPS
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	never even heard of reason
grannypantys 10.10.16	"his name is wwf what are you expecting guys" Oh I don't know. Maybe Stone Cold Steve Austin dropping stunners on your candy ass.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I think living in Oklahoma for 27 years has made me subliminally seek out leftist figures because of what I'm surrounded by
Futures 10.10.16	reason magazine
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2014/05/full.jpg ^^^ The OG tho. Never forget. RIP homie.
Wolfhorde 10.10.16	If you live in the U.S. - chances are you're fucked either way if you don't move to a different country. No presidential election in the world is gonna change the fact that your healthcare costs are the highest in any industrialized country. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that the system disadvantages the majority of the U.S. populace. No presidential election is gonna change the horrendous state of labor law in the U.S. (extremely low rates of vacation, no paid vacation per statute, outlawing of unions in many states). No presidential election is gonna change the fact that police brutality and judicial shenanigans disproportinately affect people of low socioeconomic status. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that the U.S. suffers from a mostly impractical casuistic judicial system and a lot of areas are woefully underregulated (i.e. supplements, banks, insurance systems and the likes). No presidential election is gonna change that people underestimate the importance of state level elections which influence their daily lives through the amount of laws they pass. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that Rick Scott is essentially Voldemort. And no presidential election is gonna change the fact that a lot of people are so blinded by prototypical American ideologies that they will gladly support people and ideas that disadvantage them. You are due for a reset and if it doesn't come you may pay dearly.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Statist alert.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Statist is the most retarded "insult" I have ever heard.
BallsDeep 10.10.16	this whole situation is the epitome of a morton's fork dilemma. I'd like to say thank fuck i don't live in the US but unfortunately their influence permeates the entire fkn world. I mean my grandpa lost almost half his small fortune due to the GFC, so just Imagine what having a clinically insane neofascist in charge of the worlds most powerful country will do.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	It's a degree matter Ed. Not "you believe in government." In that sense yeah it would be retarded.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	just Imagine what having a clinically insane neofascist in charge of the worlds most powerful country will do. just Imagine what having a clinically insane neofascist in charge of the worlds most powerful country will do. just Imagine what having a clinically insane neofascist in charge of the worlds most powerful country will do. just Imagine what having a clinically insane neofascist in charge of the worlds most powerful country will do.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	gonna move to the east coast and take swimming lessons, wish me luck
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"Not "you believe in government." In that sense yeah it would be retarded." Help me out then (not being disingenuous here, genuinely want to know), what is statist supposed to mean.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Statist (when not used by anarchists) means someone who constantly thinks government is the channel to solve problems. Got a problem? Add a regulation. Ban something. Create a new level of bureaucracy and throw money at it. Stein is like the epitome of a statist.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	:'(
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Okay. I guess I agree that there is a thing as "too much state". But I don't think the term is helpful because it just screams Anarcho-Capitalist talking point. And Anarcho-Capitalist are probably the only people that are more deluded about the problems and solutions of this world than Jil Stein.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	It doesn't mean "LOL Ron Paul thinks we should have a government what a statist." Unless it's said by like the 0.0001% of people who are like Adam Kokesh, and even then I still don't think he'd use it like that.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	ohhh, it's a green new deal, it'll give you the feels, put on some brand new wheels, around the cliff she's gonna peel
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Hahaha just saw your comment after I already wrote mine ripping Kokesh for being an AnCap.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	I mean the only good thing about Jil Stein is the "green new deal", because we desperately need to get off the crack uuh I mean oil. Glad we agree about the Adam Kokeshs of the world.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	That's total BS she thinks nuclear plants are WMDs. Literally WMDs.
Futures 10.10.16	kokesh is a idiot who means well. no way he gets the lp nom in 2020 but if he did somehow the lp would lose all gains being made this year
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Yeah I mean her rhetoric is idiotic, (I'm not certain that nuclear plants are such a good idea) but at least she's generally pushing into the right direction.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"Hey guys CO2 is a huge problem." "Yeah let's invest in R&D for the only known scalable carbon neutral energy." "Nah fam let's put solar panels over the GMO-free garden patch."
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"generally pushing into the right direction." Noooooooooooooope.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	this is Jill Stein's 6th election that's she's going to lose and she's never won a race
Futures 10.10.16	banning nuclear energy is the backwards way
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"means well" So does Bernie, though. Doesn't mean they aren't harmful.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	How is nuclear the only scalable carbon neutral energy though? Solar energy could easily, and I mean easily supply the worlds needs 10 times over.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	$$$$$
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	I mean I'm okay with the nuclear part for now if we can get rid of coal please. We can bargain to that right?
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"banning nuclear energy is the backwards way" nuclear plants do pose a lot of valid safety concerns though. Storing nuclear-toxic waste is also a big concern.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Solar panels have their place. That place is powering a small thing off-grid in the middle of the desert. Not powering a fucking city.
Futures 10.10.16	yeah ancaps are harmful to the lp. hopefully in 2020 we get justin amash. we need to keep the credentialed guys coming
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	You act like solar panels don't use toxic chemicals as well. And for us here in the U.S. storage isn't even remotely difficult. Don't know about you Germans but I'd assume arranging a safe place wouldn't be all that hard.
BallsDeep 10.10.16	isn't it more due to the fact that solar energy is more difficult to store, less efficient and therefore less practical as a main source of energy? I agree though its criminally underutilized especially in Australia
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Add to dictionary was pretty awful
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	*fukushima -__-
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"Solar panels have their place. That place is powering a small thing off-grid in the middle of the desert. Not powering a fucking city." These are assertions. Not arguments. There is so much energy from the sun hitting the earth every day, we would only need to harness a ridiculously small amount to supply the whole world (and nobody is arguing for a 100% solar energy mix). "isn't it more due to the fact that solar energy is more difficult to store, less efficient and therefore less practical as a main source of energy" It is. But, burning coal and Oil was huuuuuuuugely inefficient in the beginning and we found ways to make it more efficient and there are no reasons to believe that this isn't possible.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	this pot pie is so fucking good
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Elon Musk Musk ....MMMMuuuusssk
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Great start a solar company without massive government subsidies and see how cheap you can produce energy. Best of luck.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	you guys the carrots, peas, and turkey in this pie are delicious
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	Musk
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	At least I don't hear you arguing for goddamn windmills, a technology that literally got leapfrogged like a thousand years ago and people are somehow now, post 2000, saying "Hey let's go back to that primitive fucking idea."
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	allow us a few million dollars for solar energy research and we'll shut up for a year
RadicalEd 10.10.16	What kind of argument is this. No guys, let's not invest into more efficient ways of harnessing coal, because currently, burning wood is way cheaper. Nvm. that coal is potentially way more capable. Nobody is arguing. Hey guys, let's just do away with fossil fuels towmorow and go solar energy. But we need to advance the technology and yes, invest into improving it. It's called long-term investment. Windmills are also good, but wind-energy is way more limited in it's potential than solar-energy. It's still a worthwile supplement to the energy mix though. Especially in the northern hemisphere.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	research in anything would be better than fancy buildings, right?
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	You can kick and scream all you want nuclear is your future and mine.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	You are still not even engaging with the arguments.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	And, like I said, go crazy investing in solar all you want. Just don't take my money for it thanks.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Same for wind. Spend your money on it to your heart's content. Don't demand subsidies.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	you have to push ghost to argue the details sometimes
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I don't argue details of power density and cost on Sputnik.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Bro, that's not how a nation works. If the majority elects a parliament that is pro solar energy, your tax dollars will be spend on solar energy.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"I don't argue details of power density and cost on Sputnik." I mean okay. Whatever, but that's a fruitless discussion then.
Aftertheascension 10.10.16	"If you live in the U.S. - chances are you're fucked either way if you don't move to a different country. No presidential election in the world is gonna change the fact that your healthcare costs are the highest in any industrialized country. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that the system disadvantages the majority of the U.S. populace. No presidential election is gonna change the horrendous state of labor law in the U.S. (extremely low rates of vacation, no paid vacation per statute, outlawing of unions in many states). No presidential election is gonna change the fact that police brutality and judicial shenanigans disproportinately affect people of low socioeconomic status. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that the U.S. suffers from a mostly impractical casuistic judicial system and a lot of areas are woefully underregulated (i.e. supplements, banks, insurance systems and the likes). No presidential election is gonna change that people underestimate the importance of state level elections which influence their daily lives through the amount of laws they pass. No presidential election is gonna change the fact that Rick Scott is essentially Voldemort. And no presidential election is gonna change the fact that a lot of people are so blinded by prototypical American ideologies that they will gladly support people and ideas that disadvantage them. You are due for a reset and if it doesn't come you may pay dearly." The problem comes that if I move to another country I lose something in the process. I'm a huge privacy and free speech nut - things that many European countries are slowly losing. The us is just losing them at a slower rate and maybe my fat ass will be able to live here for a few more years because of it. In any case I'm moving out if Clinton gets elected no matter what because she will majorly screw us for her own benefit or just for pure comedy. "Hilary Clinton is a shady, corrupt, lying cuntbag." - Describes the entirety of the democratic party.
BallsDeep 10.10.16	"At least I don't hear you arguing for goddamn windmills, a technology that literally got leapfrogged like a thousand years ago and people are somehow now, post 2000, saying "Hey let's go back to that primitive fucking idea." another unsubstantiated claim. There's a local W.A town of roughly 30,000 whom have around 80% of their energy requirements met by a windfarm situated on a nearby escarpment - plus it actually serves as a tourist destination because the turbines are quite an impressive sight. Not saying this would work on a large scale, it almost certainly wouldn't, but you can't call it primitive when we're still burning fucking coal
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Ed do you genuinely want to argue post-by-post on Sputnik about the merits of nuclear fusion or would you rather go read a professional's work on the matter? I fully stand by my stance of not arguing "the details" of energy policy on Sputnik. Anyway I have to go.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.16	just end coal ffs
RadicalEd 10.10.16	I mean, you are not even engaging with a non-technical argument that goes like this: Fossil fuels used to ineffecient. We made them efficient. Renewable Energies like solar and wind energy are inefficient we can make them efficient as well. And you're also not engaging with the concerns I raised with nuclear energy (safety, getting rid of waste that is toxic for tens of thousands of years)
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Just popping in to say how much I fucking despise The Young Turks. Holy. Shit.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Most disingenuous, self-aggrandizing bunch of twats on the interwebz. Anna "get off the stage you fat fuck" kasparian and the Big Brown Buffallo are just unbearable. They really went off the deep end with that whole sam harris fiasco.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Wait, are you an Atheism is Unstoppable fan? If so, I think we just became best friends.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Also, I've basically forcefed my family/best friends Sam Harris to the point of where both my parents are huge fans and listen to his podcast/have read his books. Fuck yeah, dude. This rules.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Fan is overstating it. I think he makes some good points (and some very simplistic and horrible ones as well). But I occasionaly watch his videos. And he's impeccable when it comes to destroying TYT. Big Sam Harris follower though.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Yeah, he definitely has some insanely idiotic points but his analogies are fucking hysterical. I also adore his over-confidence humor, but yeah mostly him slaughtering TYT on a weekly basis gives me butterflies. I was waiting for someone like him to take off the kid gloves for like a year before he existed. Also, Dave Rubin went to my high school and my college, so that makes me awesome by association or something.
BallsDeep 10.10.16	yeah the YTY are bunch of dogmatic pseudo-intellectual fuckwits. I want to smack them before they even open their mouths
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	The TYT hate itt makes me so proud of you guys. http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-19-at-11.56.00-AM.png
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Yessss, this is making my morning way more awesome Now if only the 3 million subscribers of theirs could get on board.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	1,5 million people who are hate-watchers imo.
Egarran 10.10.16	I've been in a lot of locker rooms and it's all talk about harmful immigrants, raping women and nuking the enemy. Brainwashed commie fags who stray from the fascism inherent in all men is rightfully ostracized and bullied. I can only hope it will soon be ok to arrest these bleeding hearts or just beat them up.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Sorry, it's hard to type. My fingers are starting to hurt from all that pussy I've been grabbing all day. You know how it is, though.
Egarran 10.10.16	I know it's not pc, but women love any kind of attention. Come on, we all know this.
StarlessCore 10.10.16	"just end coal ffs" omg plz shut up
smaugman 10.10.16	invest more money in technology
Aftertheascension 10.10.16	people who care about if something is pc or not are the primary problem with the world
iloveyouall 10.10.16	no, middle-class sheltered suburban 16 year olds that pretend they know "politics" (like yourself) are the primary problem with the world
iloveyouall 10.10.16	oh, and daft motherfuck prog-wank daddies like smaugman too
StarlessCore 10.10.16	i think the issue is people who listen to harsh noise wall....o guess which pseudo intellectual false troll just walked in
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	The primary problem lmfao Yeah it's definitely worse than scary dissenting points of view about the most important topics in danger of being banned from public discourse. That should have no negative outcome.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	no pretentious aussie contrarians are the real primary problem in the word, am I doin this right senpai?
StarlessCore 10.10.16	hahaha did you really just edit the verbiage in your insult or are my eyes deceiving me? weaaaaak
iloveyouall 10.10.16	lol progmaster stop trying to act like an authority on anything. you can't even formulate your own opinions you limp-dicked motherfuck. go buy another copy of "1001 albums to listen to before you die"
smaugman 10.10.16	really the worst person ever sach
iloveyouall 10.10.16	coming from you, that's probably a glowing appraisal
StarlessCore 10.10.16	dam sun
iloveyouall 10.10.16	sm0k
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	I work in appraisals, what's up
zaruyache 10.10.16	"Sheltered suburban 16 year olds that pretend they know "politics" (like yourself) are the primary problem with the world" So people who dont vote dont contribute to the economy and dont have any hand in setting policy or affecting anything other than pop culture uhhhhhh
AmericanFlagAsh 10.10.16	Trump looked desperate af
iloveyouall 10.10.16	wait let me correct myself: people dumb enough to take snappy retorts seriously are primary problem with the world
TheHung89 10.10.16	log off permanently
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Trump didn't look desperate...
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	He said "desperate af" tbf.
AmericanFlagAsh 10.10.16	He kept trying to get Bernie supporters and it was so cringe-worthy. Plus he kept interrupting Hillary even when asked to stop. Acting so much on the defensive.
StarlessCore 10.10.16	they were both horrific. hes just more of a stupid person. some of her answers and deflections were just as bad as his
AmericanFlagAsh 10.10.16	I'm voting for her, but yeah the Lincoln thing was cringe worthy as well
Snide 10.10.16	"let's not pretend that's true, these are the two politicians we elected in the primaries." If Rubio, or Kasich had won the Republican nomination, Hillary would have been soundly defeated.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Can we ban the word cringe in all its various forms please? Mods, can we do this? Like a permanent IP ban if you get three strikes?
AmericanFlagAsh 10.10.16	Sorry, I meant to say I experienced a moment of embarrassment/disgust. Is that better?
zaruyache 10.10.16	Neither of those two candidates had anywhere near as much experience or know-how as Hillary. No way that Rubio kid would've beaten Clinton snide.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"If Rubio, or Kasich had won the Republican nomination, Hillary would have been soundly defeated." Hahaha. Rubio the only human being that is even more robotic and two-faced than hillary or Kasich the human-charisma-vortex. I love when ppl. are teary eyed for candidates which Obama and even Romney would have easily annihilated.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Polling had his favorables way above her. He has relatively little baggage and would do infinitely better with the Hispanic vote than Trump, especially in key areas like Florida with its heavy Cuban population. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Polling means nothing. Bernie was polling waaaaaaaaay better than Hillary against trump. But Bernie would have prolly been annihilated with "lolfuckingcommie" smear campaign. Rubio would do better with hispanics, but he had 0% enthusiasm and no strong core-voting base.
MistaCrave 10.10.16	[2] Clinton has had years more political experience, held more political offices, and has a husband who was president. I think she's undoubtedly the one with the strongest ability to turn people in her favor.
Snide 10.10.16	"Hahaha. Rubio the only human being that is even more robotic and two-faced than hillary or Kasich the human-charisma-vortex. I love when ppl. are teary eyed for candidates which Obama and even Romney would have easily annihilated." Most debate polling during the primaries predicted that Rubio and Kasich (especially Kasich) would have done better than Trump.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Clinton had some horrifyingly stupid answers, she is just much more eloquent and conventional than Trump so it goes over some people's heads. Trump barely said anything about policy, he just kept saying the same shit about how he's gonna win and defeat Isis, fuck Hillary, etc
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"Most debate polling during the primaries predicted that Rubio and Kasich (especially Kasich) would have done better than Trump." Polling means nothing. Bernie was polling waaaaaaaaay better than Hillary against trump. But Bernie would have prolly been annihilated with "lolfuckingcommie" smear campaign. Rubio would do better with hispanics, but he had 0% enthusiasm and no strong core-voting base.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	I'm pretty confident he'd have beaten her in a general. His problem was that he didn't have the GOP primary appeal, which historically is a decent sign of good performance in general elections cause GOP primary voters are not indicative of the overall country at all.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Also, I'm not sure Bernie would've been destroyed in a general. I think he'd have done alright if not exceptionally.
Egarran 10.10.16	People in doubt can just look at history. A strong leader and a strong belief in the nation = success.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Bernie's mission statements are awesome, but how he would get there was not always plausible. He would have killed it with millenials.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	"not always"
RadicalEd 10.10.16	"People in doubt can just look at history. A strong leader and a strong belief in the nation = success." Wow. 2deep4me
Egarran 10.10.16	That's right. Don't act too smart.
RadicalEd 10.10.16	Don't have to be "too smart" to mock that kind of wisdom.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	So we're not all on board that Trump won last night?
Snide 10.10.16	"Polling means nothing. Bernie was polling waaaaaaaaay better than Hillary against trump. But Bernie would have prolly been annihilated with "lolfuckingcommie" smear campaign." Bernie's fanbase was as energetic, if not more energetic than Trump's fanbase. He would have done better than Hillary in the main election, easy.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Ed if you don't believe polls how do you foresee this election turning out?
StarlessCore 10.10.16	"So we're not all on board that Trump won last night?" he actually did but lets remember a few things 1. hes still an idiot and doesnt have the knowledge to be president 2. the questions were better this time around he gave a few decent answers, which I believe are simply things people around him have told him to say, but he said them nonetheless 3. hilary did HORRIBLE and was grilled pretty badly on a few things. trump admitted he takes advantage of carried interest like all the donors that fund hilary's campaign and corrupt-to-hell foundation (if shes so wealthy and about equality can't she put her own money into campaigning just a thought) i mean she is getting destroyed by the email questions. gets asked and slyly thinks her response is suitable. both og them spent way too much time not answering the question asked
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	1. Agree 2. Agree 3. Yup. She deserved to be grilled pretty hard on some things, the first debate was literally just a "fuck Trump" questionnaire while her misdeeds went unnoticed. She deserves to get destroyed by the e-mail question, who she is being funded by is also pretty worrisome, her hand in Libya and much else of the Middle East, etc. Her immigration policy is also beyond retarded. Whoever wins, I'll be upset but for totally different reasons. Clinton is much more qualified and knows what the fuck she is doing (something I cannot say for Trump), but many of her policies are genuinely dangerous. Also, yeah. 70% of that debate was them not answering questions. Trump still won last night, though. Clinton won the first round. I'm anxious to see how the last debate will go.
StarlessCore 10.10.16	donald trump is a complete idiot and won the debate....the people arguing like yeah hilary is corrupt and wouldnt be worse than trump vote for her to block trump nah like shes so bad in general for other things the fact that shes knowledgable and 'qualified' in the sense that she has the KNOWLEDGE to be president isnt enough i cant vote for her cant do it
Snake. 10.10.16	didn't even bother watching it i no longer give a shit about trump, i just really don't want that god forsaken piece of shit mike pence as VP
DarkSideOfLucca 10.10.16	Yeah, Mike Pence is awful and some of the things he tried to pass back in the day were pretty horrifying. That being said, I think HE won his debate, and I was expecting to despise him way more.
Egarran 10.10.16	"Don't have to be "too smart" to mock that kind of wisdom" Or to miss irony.
BallsDeep 10.10.16	' But when I was in Chicago, I got to meet a couple of very tough police. I said, how do you stop this? How do you stop this? If you were put in charge to a specific person, do you think you could stop this? He said, Mr. Trump I would be able to stop it in one week and I believed him 100 percent.' The shit the Hitler/fat bastard/newborn baby hybrid looking fucker says is plain farcical. Although it would be a lot funnier if there wasn't the threat of him leading the western world.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Hey Balls what's your opinion of Hillary?
BallsDeep 10.10.16	I haven't looked into many of her policies tbh so I'm going mostly by second hand sources but she appears as essentially a deceitful two-faced bitch although I think she understands how thoroughly scrutinized all her actions will be when/if she's president. plus she seems a little bit less stubborn then Trump in that from all accounts, he doesn't even consult other members when devising his ridiculous proposals. She may not have all - or many - of the qualities of a good leader but at least she's not likely to ruin diplomacy with half of the world and turn them against the US. Put it this way in Australian politics (bearing in mind the election process is very different) you'll see glimpses of federal election candidates being shitcunts before they're elected but usually the shit hits the fan and their true shit colors come out once they've got the position (they'll fail to uphold promises they made earlier etc) but these two are already smeared in their own shit during their campaigns, it makes you wonder just how shit they'll be when they take up office. Drowning in their own shit probably?
Aftertheascension 10.10.16	"If Rubio, or Kasich had won the Republican nomination, Hillary would have been soundly defeated." Snide man you lose more of my respect every single time you post.
alienobserver 10.10.16	^tbh
alienobserver 10.10.16	the fact that i never had any for you in the first place is also problematic
AlexKzillion 10.10.16	https://imgur.com/a/WVYE1 LOL
BallsDeep 10.10.16	so? 69 is just another number. grow up alex
AlexKzillion 10.10.16	???
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.10.16	Your battery.
Futures 10.10.16
TheHung89 10.10.16	log off permanently futures
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Flugmorph 10.10.16	damn trump acts like a whiny child, such fun
BallsDeep 10.10.16	you two go flirt elsewhere pls
Flugmorph 10.10.16	im actually a lil suprised. trump did pre well for his standarts at this debate apart from his whining at the beginning.
Futures 10.10.16	trump actually won somehow yeah
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.10.16	I will respect anyone's opinions or side of an argument as long as they back up their reasoning well even if I don't have to agree with it. I not pro for either Trump or Clinton, but while I find things I don't like about either one, I won't shame you for your pick between the two or not picking either.
Egarran 10.10.16	Undecideds will be collateral damage in the coming civil war.
Flugmorph 10.10.16	why does the female moderator always yell tho
Futures 10.10.16	i mean no there has been no polls done since that video so that is false
Egarran 10.10.16	Only gay islamic socialists would say Trump didn't win.
Futures 10.10.16	only 500 rv and before the debate which pretty much everyone says he won. i wouldn't put much stock in it
Aftertheascension 10.11.16	This election is a bigger trainwreck than sputnik and that is a serious statement.
Storm In A Teacup 10.11.16	"This election is a bigger trainwreck than sputnik and that is a serious statement." You meant your social life? Good job bashing a music website as an attempt to compare it to global affairs.
Storm In A Teacup 10.11.16	Still not in a mood to debate like yesterday. Maybe tomorrow idk
BallsDeep 10.11.16	If only democrats had a powerful and respectable candidate. It wouldn't even be a debate it would be an adult pacifying an overtired child.
ShadowRemains 10.11.16	"Snide man you lose more of my respect every single time you post." you act as if your respect meant anything in the first place also nuclear fusion people, like i mentioned in the other thread
ShadowRemains 10.11.16	"The problem comes that if I move to another country I lose something in the process. I'm a huge privacy and free speech nut - things that many European countries are slowly losing. The us is just losing them at a slower rate and maybe my fat ass will be able to live here for a few more years because of it. In any case I'm moving out if Clinton gets elected no matter what because she will majorly screw us for her own benefit or just for pure comedy. "Hilary Clinton is a shady, corrupt, lying cuntbag." - Describes the entirety of the democratic party." the collective IQ of the american population will grow so i don't think most would be opposed to this if you left
Aftertheascension 10.11.16	I see that after ~3 years of my being here you still have nothing better left to do than to insult a person on the Internet of whom you don't even know the first name. eams
Egarran 10.11.16	The trickle down effect may not be very pronounced when it comes to money, but when authorities are douchebags, a large number of people will become more stupid and annoying.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.12.16	"also nuclear fusion people, like i mentioned in the other thread" Boiiii you better Control + F that shit on this thread before I... Not to mention who brought it up first in that other thread. You complete me Shadow. Sometimes.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 10.12.16	"collective IQ" Honestly I would think IQ would be a very hated metric on Sput for obvious reasons.