Sauce
12.07.15 | departure songs is da bes |
iglu
12.07.15 | check out Austin TV |
Nazzadan
12.07.15 | Post-anything is dumb and makes me angry because I am old and hate change |
RadicalEd
12.07.15 | lol 11 as aoty. |
Artuma
12.07.15 | simple. it's a term to describe music that uses traditional rock instruments for 'non-rock-y' purposes |
wham49
12.07.15 | cant people come up with better, less confusing genre names. Pre and post genre titles do not make sense |
Artuma
12.07.15 | name one "pre" genre |
alienobserver
12.07.15 | try this
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+post-rock%3F |
ZombicidalMan
12.07.15 | minimalism is fun |
ashcrash9
12.07.15 | @Artuma - but is it that simple? For instance, I'd say 1 and 8 in different ways at points use traditional rock instrumentation for fairly straightforward rock subgenre purposes, while 13 doesn't really use any rock instrumentation yet still gets classified as post-rock. |
minty901
12.07.15 | I'd love to have to write an essay on this. I'd avoid hyperbole about how "spiritual" and "transcendant" post-rock is and be sure to talk about specifics like use of delay with high feedback and reverb with high decay and mix, and tremolo strumming for powerful crescendoes. U2-style dotted-8th delayed arpeggios I think are quite a common backbone for the rhythm guitar in modern post-rock. |
Aftertheascension
12.07.15 | It's ambient music with guitars. |
minty901
12.07.15 | I'd look at Jakob's Solace as an example of creating atmosphere through high-feedback delay. Talk about layering multiple guitar parts with Caspian as a good example. |
LotusFlower
12.07.15 | Isn't it classified as unconventional styling compared to more traditional Rock styles? There's also an emphasis on very repetitive, precise melodies and instrumentation and a usual cinematic/epic aesthetic? That descriptor can cover a lot of different styles but usually there's shared similarities between post-rock albums. |
wham49
12.07.15 | IDK you guys know what I mean though, but I have heard pre-punk, pre thrash and pre-psych used before unofficially |
Archael
12.07.15 | As its simplest, it's ambient but rock |
Mort.
12.07.15 | im not writing your paper for you you lazy shit go do some actual academic research with refernences and shit dont ask this cesspool |
Artuma
12.07.15 | @wham unofficially yes, it's not like they would be "actual" genres |
Valkyrion
12.07.15 | afaik, music played with (mostly) rock instruments that doesn't follow the standards of rock music, for ex. using a guitar not to play riffs and chords but textures |
wham49
12.07.15 | chill artuma, just messing around, although I can see where a pre-punk genre could be useful in describing bands like The stooges or MC5 |
TalonsOfFire
12.07.15 | I mean early Slayer could be considered pre-death metal, but really what's the point of pre-genres it seems pretty dumb
Also how can you make this list and talk about writing an essay on post-rock without mentioning Talk Talk, the band that literally started the genre smh. Start there and you might find the answers that you seek. |
Artuma
12.07.15 | "just messing around"
well, i certainly didn't figure that out |
Archael
12.07.15 | Proto punk not pre punk. |
Artuma
12.07.15 | same thing cyg |
TalonsOfFire
12.07.15 | proto and pre are the same, I've heard a lot of people call early Slayer proto-death metal, especially songs like Chemical Warfare. |
ZombicidalMan
12.07.15 | Music Scenes: Local, Translocal and Virtual by Andy Bennett, Richard A. Peterson
thanks google |
wham49
12.07.15 | my point exactly guys, attaching labels to things especially post or "pre" is kind of pointless, unless it is to get the idea of what something may be but, this post-rock thing, is kinds confusing. |
chords91
12.07.15 | Can't wait for post-music to become a thing |
TalonsOfFire
12.07.15 | Is there a precursor to post-rock then, besides rock, like ambient? That would help to describe it. |
altertide0
12.07.15 | i'd say post-rock is just rock music that "breathes" and has lots of space, it has this specific "wide" sound, but at the same time doesn't indulge in progressive rock dynamics and is usually devoid of pomp |
altertide0
12.07.15 | post-music is already a thing btw (although yeah, not a popular one yet) |
Friday13th
12.07.15 | altertide's definition is really close |
Friday13th
12.07.15 | Here's my best def: Minimalistic and ambient rock music focusing on textures and dynamics rather than melody and groove. |
SharkTooth
12.07.15 | here's a definition I found on urban dictionary that might help
"Post rock is a genre of rock music coined by British music Simon Reynold as "using rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes, using guitars as facilitators of timbres and textures rather than riffs and powerchords." Post Rock will often times be built like classical music with different movements and emphasis on musical composition and dynamic movements. Common instruments used by post rock bands are guitars and basses as well as drums, auxillary percussion, string instruments, pianos, and even bagpipes and the occasional tape loop run through the record." |
Artuma
12.07.15 | "this post-rock thing, is kinds confusing"
yeah it's not very accurate but the genre has been named as such for decades now and it's hard to change it |
ZombicidalMan
12.07.15 | concluding sentence: just get a fucking DD-7 and be done with it |
BigLeach65
12.07.15 | laughing stock-talk talk |
Snake.
12.07.15 | anything with "post-" in the genre just means that the sound is technically that genre but is not meant to be played like that genre
i.e. post-punk, post-hardcore, post-grunge |
guitarded_chuck
12.07.15 | 11 is aoty hands down |
zakalwe
12.07.15 | It's something that shouldn't be written about on a fancy shmancy final paper for some liberal arts course.
Jesus Christ you kids make me sick with your horsehit. I'm actually contemplating joining ISIS. The terrorist organisation not the bullshit band you kids jizz over. |
SharkTooth
12.08.15 | I wonder if there are Isis members who listen to Isis |
Snake.
12.08.15 | i doubt it because if any of them found out it would be copyright hell |
zakalwe
12.08.15 | Probabaly, hypocritical bunch of arseholes. |
Onirium
12.08.15 | http://samizdat.cc/shelf/documents/2005/07.11-lostGeneration/lostGeneration.pdf
Interesting Pitchfork essay on the stylistic origins and early evolution of the genre |
Calc
12.08.15 | not sure how program music is post-rock |
trve
12.09.15 | gotta be a fucking boring year if 11 is an aoty contender |