Trebor.: When Did You Stop Believing In God?

Trebor. 09.16.12	So how old where you?
bach 09.16.12	Probably around the 14-15 range....
Ire 09.16.12	sometime over the summer when i joined reddit/figured "hippie god" was a dumb concept listen to the soft bulletin trebo
Yazz_Flute 09.16.12	You must have been a goddamn cynical 8-year old. I was probably 13-14 when I started becoming a bitter atheist. I was raised by a moderately religious family. Also lol @ assuming sputnik is atheist.
DrMaximus 09.16.12	I've never in my life believed in God
bach 09.16.12	Hey treb, we're all just doin' the cockroach.
Yazz_Flute 09.16.12	ALSO HOLY FUCK BANJO KAZOOIE GODDAMN YES FUCK
Trebor. 09.16.12	I'm pretty proud that I came to the conclusion completely on my own, no internet or anything, I didn't even listen to bands like BR yet
Muisc4Life26 09.16.12	santa claus is god.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	never believed cause i am not a retard
Trebor. 09.16.12	"Also lol @ assuming sputnik is atheist." Sputnik is overwhelmingly atheist compared to most of the world Why? maybe good music taste has a correlation with free thinking idk
TheDjehuty 09.16.12	God is yourself, you control your own reality. Heaven and Hell aren't other worldly places they're a mindset. Believe in yourself.
DrMaximus 09.16.12	"never believed cause i am not a retard" Exactly
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	Perhaps a long time ago, but it was my parents who tried their hardest to keep me Christian and still do. Yet, I never see them pray, they have a tendency to fall asleep (or just miss Sunday mass altogether) but if me or any one of my brothers miss mass, that would such a terrible travesty. That is one of the many reasons that I resent them. However, completely opposite was my grandmother is an extremely devout Catholic. I love her, and she is by far the nicest and most loving person I know. Sometimes I wonder how my mother ended up being the way she is with my grandmother raising her... She was part of the reason I hoped in a God. At the age of 74+, she doesn't have a lot time, even now I wish that she could go some place nice after she's gone. Another thing that stalled me was a Catholic youth groups. I wasn't the most enthusiastic person around and yet they still tried with my reluctance. These guys were really nice and pretty much normal otherwise. I felt like I owed them something, but now I'm pretty damn sure there isn't a God. I decided that basically near the end of the last school year.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	where is emim i need to be cleansed by the light of jesus
Trebor. 09.16.12	My dad is like mega chill christian and my mom is atheist m/ So never had that shit pushed on me thank god
bach 09.16.12	I was consistently "agnostic" until i watched Carl Sagan's The Cosmos at 14
Yazz_Flute 09.16.12	"Sputnik is overwhelmingly atheist compared to most of the world Why? maybe good music taste has a correlation with free thinking idk" I'm not disagreeing with that at all, I just found it funny how blunt the title of the list was.
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	I started to doubt God by middle school however. Then I suppose I was agnostic, but I'd personally rather be an atheist or a theist than be agnostic.
Trebor. 09.16.12	I don't think I've ever been in a church damn sweet The title is blunt because it's a Trebor list after all
SgtPepper 09.16.12	I think religion is just something people that are afraid to die hold on to so as to feel like their life has a purpose, though sadly, our existence on this earth holds no further meaning but to take up space and eventually die. It sounds depressing, but then again, the truth usually is. Believe if God existed, and Jesus really did love you, he would have done more on his time on earth than turning water into wine. But this is just my opinion of course. And I could be wrong.
SgtPepper 09.16.12	Nice Bach. I love Carl Sagan!
Trebor. 09.16.12	I think the belief in an afterlife is way more depressing Plus it doesn't make any fucking sense
PuddlesPuddles 09.16.12	Free thinking = atheism. Lol. Yah, gotcha. And what in God's name does Sptunik have to do with good music taste
Solisis 09.16.12	yeah, and it just makes living actual life a hell of bore
bach 09.16.12	The man changed my life.
guitarnater 09.16.12	The day after I die.
Solisis 09.16.12	"And what in God's name does Sptunik have to do with good music taste" he was being facetious...
Trebor. 09.16.12	Religion is just synthetic frippery: Unnecessary in our expanding global culture efficiency
Trebor. 09.16.12	""And what in God's name does Sptunik have to do with good music taste" he was being facetious..." You should only take half of the things I say seriously, and the other 60% you can take to heart
Ire 09.16.12	no need 4 religion when u got carl sagan n wayne coyne
Solisis 09.16.12	"Free thinking = atheism." Not really, when Emerson constructed transcendentalism, he was a rather free thinker. But he wasn't atheist.
TheDjehuty 09.16.12	After life makes perfect sense, it's called energy.. you are energy, energy never dies... it's transfered into something else - basic physics. Also the fact that we dream is proof that there's an alternate something or another
PuddlesPuddles 09.16.12	"Religion is just synthetic frippery: Unnecessary in our expanding global culture efficiency" Such as producing iPhones and Housewives of Jersey Shore episodes
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	i look like jesus its pretty sweet one day i plan to make a religion like Lron and trick a bunch of people and make bank then on my death bed be like sorry idiots i made this shit up!
bach 09.16.12	Dammit! no one got my Modest Mouse reference at the top!
PuddlesPuddles 09.16.12	Solisis, I was poking fun at that implication..
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	"energy never dies... it's transfered into something else" yeah its transferred into fungus and bacteria
bach 09.16.12	The notion of "repenting" is inane as well.
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	i was raised not to believe actually
Trebor. 09.16.12	I got your modest mouse reference of course
Satellite 09.16.12	never was much of a believer
DrMaximus 09.16.12	Same here Oblivion
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	im gonna raise my kids to believe whatever they want because indoctrination is for religion
Trebor. 09.16.12	^ Yeah my parents didn't even bring up religion or god or whatever, it was just implied that I believe whatever the fuck I wanted to
bach 09.16.12	Agreed Hyperion1001. Forcing atheism upon children is just as ignorant as shoving Christianity down their throats.
PuddlesPuddles 09.16.12	I'm going to teach my children that Gobstoppers bite you from the inside
Ethics 09.16.12	when i started listening to charles mingus and radiohead. so around 12 didn't stop believing in god, just threw every idea of religion out the window lol, and my name is christian. that's the funny part
HitlerIsTheBest 09.16.12	"After life makes perfect sense, it's called energy.. you are energy, energy never dies... it's transfered into something else - basic physics. Also the fact that we dream is proof that there's an alternate something or another" yeah, our corpses fertilize the earth and feed other organisms. thats where the energy is going. and dreams are proof of nothing. its just another thing we dont fully understand, and then we have people like you attributing it to god because we cant explain it yet. "we cant scientifically explain this yet. must be god!!"
Insurrection 09.16.12	when nickelback released their first album
Ethics 09.16.12	LOL at nickelback
bach 09.16.12	I was too, lakes. But, my parents more or less wanted to instill an optimistic view of life and death in my mind. We never went to mass or recited verses of the bible.
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	Just last week, I just found out an old friend of mine from elementary school just killed himself. I was sad yet not really because I haven't seen him in over 6 years. But it actually did get to me for a little while. When I told my mother about it, she was sincerely sympathetic...But then she said "Uh no, now he's going to hell. shakes her head"
HitlerIsTheBest 09.16.12	a friend and i are making an acoustic cover to No Jesus, No Beast from Immolation. should be funny.
Emim 09.16.12	This is dumb, sorry trebs
EverythingEvil2113 09.16.12	I started questioning it when I was around 8 because I would constantly question the crazy stories being told in my Sunday school, much to the disdain of my teachers, but I don't think I officially quit believing until I was around 20. It's difficult to give up everything you were taught as a child, but logic ultimately prevailed.
newjunkaesthetic93 09.16.12	When I just saw John Mayer guitar soloing during Frank Ocean's SNL performance. But seriously, John Mayer can play a mean guitar solo.
tarkus 09.16.12	believed as a small child then just kinda said i believed but didnt question it then didnt really care/believe but played along, didnt believe at all at like 13
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	emim is finally here! please show me the light
deathofasalesman 09.16.12	13 probably. I started to think more about science and reasoning and realized how stupid it all was.
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
bach 09.16.12	^ This.
SaneTBP 09.16.12	"free thinking=atheism" lol
PuddlesPuddles 09.16.12	Do you guys really not know how to read sarcasm or follow up sentences? I'll dumb it down for you next time
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	wheres the broken heart
Trebor. 09.16.12	lol, I'm not gonna complain about girls on here
tommygun 09.16.12	Never believed in God, none of my family are religious so I never had it forced upon me either
ChuckyTruant 09.16.12	I was 69
ChuckyTruant 09.16.12	:) But agreed with mimsy. Dumb list
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	thats the point!
Bloodhail 09.16.12	treb how is ur love life? ? ?
someguest 09.16.12	"new someguest right here" you need a hug riff? religion is bullshit - these fucking protests should be enough of a reason for every logical human being to throw away the idea of God forever.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	i stopped believing in god when i realized the reality i perceive is my own construction and that once i cease to exist so does everything else
evilford 09.16.12	base is god's alt
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	thank you base god
SCREAMorphine 09.16.12	I was never raised to believe in any religion and I didn't know anyone while I was growing up who was either, my town was twisted. But an 8 year old figuring that out is pretty cool, I know people in their late 40's who clearly know God doesn't exist but still pretend for what ever reason.
HitlerIsTheBest 09.16.12	the biblebangers think this list is dumb, what a surprise.
Sleaper 09.16.12	my first day of being in a catholic high school.
Masochist 09.16.12	"Ironically enough, Bad Religion have been my favourite band since the age of 6." Bad Religion's been mine since the age of 15 (I'm 25 now). The ironic part for me is that I am and have always been a Christian. Go figure.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	"the good thing about baseline is she rocks!" -everyone
ViperAces 09.16.12	Religous art Base? you mean like Tourniquet? By the way it was around the first years of Elementry, cant remember where exactly. My family isnt religious, so I was never forced or something. My great grandparents were actually Atheists, because they were in the holocaust and couldnt believe a god did that. A bit cheesy I know but whatever. So in about the second or third year to elementry my Atheist friends were arguing with my religious friends and I had to pick a side, but I never really believe in god all my life.
Trebor. 09.16.12	I expected to get 10 comments damn
Crymsonblaze 09.16.12	Guess I've never really taken a side either way. Just sort of agnostic by proxy.
HitlerIsTheBest 09.16.12	lol 10 comments? this is a thread about religion.
Sniff 09.16.12	Since I'm a huge Justin Bieber fan I have to be super christian and hate abortions
Crymsonblaze 09.16.12	very cool
menawati 09.16.12	Probably about 10 or 11. Usual scenario... get mildly brainwashed at school singing hymns and being forced to pray then reject it when you are mature enough for some critical, logical thinking without believing everything you are told by adults is necessarily true.
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 09.16.12	As soon as I became a rational being.
AskAak 09.16.12	never did
mifzal 09.16.12	even if their is someone/thing responsible for life and everything in universe? why should he give a shit about us and be good or evil???
NoMeansYes 09.16.12	WHAT IF GOD WAS ONE OF US!?!?!?!?!
menawati 09.16.12	I actually heard a good argument for existence of god once from a christian, water expands when it freezes. Well some other things do too but at least he tried to argue properly unlike most religious people who seem to think the onus is on atheists to disprove rather than themselves to present a coherent argument of proof.
TMobotron 09.16.12	God's a faggot.
menawati 09.16.12	nah if it existed it would be a-sexual surely ?
mifzal 09.16.12	my point is morality doesn't justify an existence of a god (which most of the theologists stress more on)? atheist can be moral too without been fear of going hell or heaven!
ViperAces 09.16.12	Im pretty sure God gets lost in New York all the time too, its a pretty damn big city.
menawati 09.16.12	religion has attempted to formally shape morality but ye basic morality doesn't need it, it's just a combination of animal instinct to function successfully in a collective and some laws on top
menawati 09.16.12	nah, atheism breeds free speech, religion usually suppresses it
mifzal 09.16.12	"There's a good reason why atheists rule the internet: the internet brainwashes the weakest souls." is it? aren't they all religious cowards in disguise?
mifzal 09.16.12	If you are generalizing then it's not only atheists but humans in general! they believe it's OK to shoot anything different from them!
ViperAces 09.16.12	Base if so then how come no one here said that he discovered atheism on line? Or did we all lie? Personally, when I became an atheist I didnt even know more than 20 words in English.
mifzal 09.16.12	and i'm no human! i'm a fucking roach
truekebabpower 09.16.12	organized religion is retarded, because beliefs are something personal and in a way everyone has his own religion, but this seems to make me an agnostic or even an atheist though
ViperAces 09.16.12	Is it good as The Passion of the Christ?????
ViperAces 09.16.12	Ok Il dl it but I doubt itll make me a Christian.
menawati 09.16.12	Thick people are thick people whether atheist or religious. But it's just odd that the word atheist is basically anti-theist which implies the natural state is to be a believer (or theist). The natural state is not to believe in anything that has no evidence. This 'blank slate' is written on by mild brainwashing as a child or, in the absence of this, your superstitious tendencies to revere gods associated with things that you cannot explain (like sun-gods and weather-gods in the past).
truekebabpower 09.16.12	wait, how are atheists not rational? I'm not saying you're wrong, but please give me some examples.
ViperAces 09.16.12	Thats a generalisation, most Atheists arent as dumb as me.
Sniff 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK269WcHMpM
ApplicationToHeaven 09.16.12	i was never told to so i never started
truekebabpower 09.16.12	why not, I like to bitch about religion
anarchistfish 09.16.12	I was around 14 years old. It was pretty soon after I was confirmed actually. I'd always had doubts but it was only around this time I couldn't really ignore them anymore. I was in a period of denial for a long while before that cos I was terrified of mortality. Losing my faith was a pretty painful thing, tbh. Although I wouldn't call myself an atheist, I'm agnostic, but my faith in there being a god/afterlife/magic electronic space spirit is low. If there is, it isn't in any of the bullshit forms the majority of religious people worship
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	I STARTED believing in God when I was 18. Before I didn't really care.
BlueW 09.16.12	I stopped when I was 14, now that I'm studying philosophy I don't know what I believe in. Baseline000: i agree completely, check this vid out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hegXAo8IdUs
ViperAces 09.16.12	Base you know so much from your superlative age of... 22?
TheNotrap 09.16.12	"At the age of 40 about 65% of atheists become religious" Predictable..life gets harder and people need to hold on something. That's the walk of life.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"Base you know so much from your superlative age of... 22?" Which is about the 90th percentile of Sputnik's community...it does make her sound more plausible than all the rest of you.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"Predictable..life gets harder and people need to hold on something. That's the walk of life." Life gets harder as an atheist you mean. The feeling that there's nothing above them, that their existence will end as they die must be a very depressing thought.
BlueW 09.16.12	people should read nietzsche and get it over with
Motiv3 09.16.12	When I was around 14 my parents decided for some reason to try and force me to go to their Church every week which they became a part of. At first I didn't want to go because I found it boring as hell and felt like I had better things to do with my time. But then I started becoming interested in Religion and started doing research not only into Christianity but other religions. I read the bible, the koran, the torah and other religious writing but nothing added up. They were all full of contradictions and had obvious man made flaws to them. When I actually started looking into the history of how and when these books were written as well as the religious figures they write about such as Jesus, Moses, Abraham and Muhammed that's when I realised that it had to be all made up and a man made fixation. That plus all the terrible things religion has done over the years and studying the history of religion made me realise it wasn't for me. For years I was almost anti-religious but I've toned that down. I just know that if there is a god that those made up by our minds are definitely not it.
BigBlob 09.16.12	Why would I stop believing in myself?
TheNotrap 09.16.12	When you lose a son or your job (just 2 examples) everything changes, even your religious or non religious believes. Like I've said life gets harder along the way. I never changed my mind about religion but I have many friends that changed their believes along the way.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"I just know that if there is a god that those made up BY OUR ANCIENT BOOKS are definitely not it." There, corrected that for you. The God in my mind is not anything like the one in the Bible ( I say Bible, because Christianity is the closest religion I lean to)
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	baseline, have you read life of pi?
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"When you lose a son or your job (just 2 examples) everything changes, even your religious or non religious believes. Like I've said life gets harder along the way." Right, when life strikes them in the hardest of ways they make an important realization.
BlueW 09.16.12	i was bullied
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	I've stood up for a lot of atheists then back in high school.
TheNotrap 09.16.12	A desperate soul needs hope, simple as that. If they really find the truth...that's another story.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"A desperate soul needs hope, simple as that. " Indeed, the life of an atheist is one without hope, in a box, with only certainties and little aspirations.
Maniac! 09.16.12	There could be a god in the Deistic sense of the world, but we don't/won't know. The Abrahamic religions are bullshit. There probably isn't a god. Let's all be friends and try not to waste our short, shitty lives over useless bullshit.
TheNotrap 09.16.12	"Indeed, the life of an atheist is one without hope, in a box, with only certainties and little aspirations." I disagree. Hope is what? Believing a lie? That's the meaning of a good life...believing in a lie?
Maniac! 09.16.12	NoTrap sucks at sarcasm
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	Hope is knowing there's a chance your life can turn around for the better. Belief brings forth that knowledge. As an atheist you rely only on yourself.
Maniac! 09.16.12	"As an atheist you rely only on yourself." LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	You know what I mean.
Motiv3 09.16.12	"Atheists are full of shit, like I said, insecure people who were bullied too much in school." Funny how most of the people I know who got bullied were/are religious.
TheNotrap 09.16.12	I believe there's something more out there, but not the gods we've built.
Motiv3 09.16.12	By the way the notion that you need to believe in God or in a religion to have hope in something is complete bullshit.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"By the way the notion that you need to believe in God or in a religion to have hope in something is complete bullshit." If the outcome depends on factors you cannot control lots of people resort to belief yes.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"In the words of Greg Graffin: "Our faith should be expressed in working toward a better planet for our children and not the selfish, juvenile hope for a better afterlife for ourselves. I don't think anyone is going to Hell because it only exists in the minds of people who wish ill-will on others."" He's an idiot. Like religious people wouldn't be working for a better planet? Like a better afterlife for oneself is selfish? A better afterlife is gained by working for a better planet. What a nimwit.
Maniac! 09.16.12	Who cares, we're all gonna die anyway. - Nietzsche
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	Not that I believe in a better afterlife, that's another issue.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"That is seriously the entire point of Christianity." Read. Comments.Above. You'll. Understand.
Maniac! 09.16.12	Why can't weeeee be friends? Why can't weeeeeeeee be friends?
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	Now you're just being mean. I didn't insult you, you did though.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"And no, considering religion is one of the large factors in why our world is going to shit." And wow, using platitudes to win this discussion...
Maniac! 09.16.12	"Just don't criticise what we believe." Don't say a phrase like that. Atheists don't collectively believe one uniting thing.
menawati 09.16.12	Nothing wrong with criticising beliefs. 'Religious respect' is an oxymoron. Religious (and anti-religious) tolerance is fine. I should be allowed to criticise someone who believes in magic if I want.
Motiv3 09.16.12	Can't we just be friends guys?!
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	I am your friend motiv3.
Motiv3 09.16.12	yay :]
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	Michaelsnoxall; I know it's sometimes hard to assertively defend your opinion without resorting to insults and/or other agressive behaviour. Do accept that your sayings lost their value even for me to respond to now. Have a good day.
ViperAces 09.16.12	The band Atheist alone is a proof that Atheists are better than religious people.
Maniac! 09.16.12	Baseline I love you wanna have sex god can watch he'll call it beautiful
minty901 09.16.12	i never really thought about god or anything when i was a kid. i think i just assumed it was all fiction and figured that everyone must have thought the same. i figured they taught us that stuff at school (christian school) just because they were stories that were useful for teaching moral lessons. it wasn't until i got to my teenage years when i started to think "hang on... people actually take this seriously?"
ViperAces 09.16.12	"You get what you pray for Forgiveness and grace Lord Ohh - That's what I need You get what you pray for Salvation is there for you Get on your knees"!!!
Maniac! 09.16.12	but I take it in the ass
Maniac! 09.16.12	victory
barcafan21 09.16.12	BUDDHISM FTW
Maniac! 09.16.12	Not needing an ideology to define you as a person FTW
barcafan21 09.16.12	i dont even know what a full buddhist is, man. i just try to be a good person cause of karma and reincarnation and stuff
Recspecs 09.16.12	A year ago lol.
GiaNXGX 09.16.12	I stopped believing when I was around 10 or 11 years old, I don't think there is an all-loving god taking care of us in the sky, christians try to save atheists, but perhaps atheists are not lost. Is an unworthy, uncaring father still entitled to the love of his sons? As Richard Dawkins said: People sometimes say, “There must be more than just this world, just this life,” but how much more do you want? We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they’re never going to be born. The number of people that could be here, in my place, outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. If you think about all the different ways our genes could be permuted, you and I are quite grotesquely lucky to be here. The number of events that had to happen in order for you to exist, for me to exist.. we are privileged to be alive and we should make the most of our time on this world. If every complex structure needs an architect;Then this prime mover must be even more complex than anything he created, and God is seen as an all-loving, human-like entity..Who made your architect? Where does he come from? What is he made of? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" That's just my opinion though, believe in whatever you want.
FromDaHood 09.16.12	I still believe in God
chambered49 09.16.12	god finally peed on me i now believe he is real and powerful
FromDaHood 09.16.12	What took him so long?
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	I used to profoundly interested and devout to my religion, however when i started actually investigating it and reading into it more i realized just how contradictory and retarded many of the statements were. Probably around 18
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" That's just my opinion though, believe in whatever you want." from this perspective, God is simply malevolent: which he basically is.
jdennis31 09.16.12	"never believed cause i am not a retard" that or you didn't have adults trying to indoctrinate you? if you resisted those attempts, great for you, but for the most part, children are fairly easy to persuade. you may not be a retard but that is a retarded correlation to make.
Lelle 09.16.12	never believed in God we aren't religious nuts in my country
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	"You insulted Greg Graffin, which is worse than insulting me. Now, stop being a cunt and learn that you can believe what you want: Just don't criticise what we believe." I think you are fishing more for the word insult than criticize, it is important to critically analyze things that are especially of vast cultural importance.
Atari 09.16.12	I believe in God. Watched my brother almost die and get a double lung transplant pretty sure somethings watching over him.
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	Yea there were doctors looking over him. How exactly does a lung transplant require divine intervention?
bungy 09.16.12	stfu Funeralopolis
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	wheres birthrite to set you foul sinners straight
jdennis31 09.16.12	it's sunday; at church, duh.
Atari 09.16.12	its not just that and if u almost lost a family member you might feel the same way. Of course if you want to get technical it was the doctors who saved his life but I've seen him change from the inside out
bungy 09.16.12	He's trying to feel superior
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	So where was God when he got in the accident? If I knew someone almost killed me and made my whole family have to go through mental suffering just to teach some sort of lesson I'd be pretty pissed. Oh wait it must've been the devil.
jdennis31 09.16.12	i had a stroke when i was 21 and i changed from inside/out. i credit the stroke and my awareness for that change. unless god wants to take credit for giving me a stroke, in which case fuck you god.
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	how am i trying to feel superior? he is basing his belief on absurdity and i simply pointing it out/ asking for clarification.
someguest 09.16.12	"At the age of 40 about 65% of atheists become religious, studies also show that 80% of atheists are between 15 and 30 years old." Yeah, there's a combination of reasons that make this happen. The biggest is probably compromise for a spouse, which is bullshit too.
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	Atheism also however has grown significantly in the last few years, many of which haven't even reached 40 yet so it is hard to tell what will actually happen.
bungy 09.16.12	No, you're being a dick
Atari 09.16.12	Yeah that's it God must have given my brother a rare disease and made him go through a lung transplant just to teach him a lesson. Fucking moron
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	if you associate God with being responsible for what happens to people it is fair to assert that he is responsible for his accident as well.
Atari 09.16.12	"No, you're being a dick" [2]
someguest 09.16.12	God obviously controls the money supply too Atari! His name is on every dollar!
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	sorry if making you think critically about your beliefs is making you so uncomfortable.
Atari 09.16.12	What accident? He got sick it could happen to anybody I never said anything about an accident
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	k the sickness was on purpose then
bungy 09.16.12	Obviously if there's a God he let's most shit happen as it goes, if Atari feels he made a case to help save his brother then that's cool
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	sweet it is pretty awesome out of the millions that die, God chose your brother specifically to live on. Quite an honor.
bungy 09.16.12	lol funeral thinks hes a genius
Sanders 09.16.12	I don't think you need religion, just live your life as well as you can, help people out and don't hurt them, and no deity would deny you access to whatever afterlife there may or may not be.
someguest 09.16.12	Why do we thank God when we recover from a disease or sickness? How about thanking your body, or science for that matter.
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	"Why do we thank God when we recover from a disease or sickness? How about thanking your body, or science for that matter." watch out or bungy will think you are trying to be superior
Atari 09.16.12	funeral I hope u get cancer
someguest 09.16.12	^And that's how most Christians react.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	bungy dont be angry bc funeral actually makes sense
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	it is cool how god let 100% of people die from cancer in the 1800s and now he is letting so many live. God must be working over time!
jdennis31 09.16.12	biggest problem with people these days is the lack of self-awareness. people constantly act as if they have these strong moral/ethical/spiritual convictions yet can't be bothered to question those convictions. it's scary to think that what is essentially a part of you may be wrong, but it's necessary for progress. imo
bungy 09.16.12	I'm just defending the little guy
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	nah you're just a huge idiot
bungy 09.16.12	wtf I never professed belief in god or got angry
Atari 09.16.12	LOL I'm not gonna argue anymore I already said it was the doctors who healed my brother but that he's come to know God and the experience changed him both inside/out. I didn't say God chose to snap his fingers and heal my brother I realize science and the doctors are to thank for that and I am grateful to them
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	never said you did. i just called you an idiot. which you are
someguest 09.16.12	Do not question the baby rabbit, YankeeDudel.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	atari you just wished cancer on somebody for doing nothing but use logic. you're the worst kind of person on the planet.
Atari 09.16.12	Also I don't care if u guys believe in God or not. Those of u who are acting like people who believe in God are stupid are just as ignorant as Christians who push their beliefs on people
someguest 09.16.12	What? Using logic =/= Believing a story
Atari 09.16.12	@Yankee, he's being am insensitive douche bag. Unless he's met my brother or was there he has no room to speak on the matter.
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	I was just asking for clarification. Who knows you may actually have some interesting knowledge, I wasn't aware of. The difference is that I ask you to back your claims of divine intervention and you don't. If you want to criticize atheism feel free to do it all you want, i just might learn something.
Atari 09.16.12	Lmao at funeral, u were being a smartass not just asking for clarification
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	yea
bungy 09.16.12	IM A IDIOT here's what prompted me to comment: Atari says after his brother was healed and became a better person or whatever it was a cause for him to believe in god. Appropriate response: That's a great story but I would say God had nothing to with that. But you guys dickishly attacked him But now he wants funeral to get cancer which is a bad thing, but pretty funny. So I'm done defending him
Captain666 09.16.12	list is so lol
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	maybe somebody wished his brother's lungs would fail
someguest 09.16.12	lol keanu
KILL 09.16.12	i'm a believer!!
Atari 09.16.12	I don't really want u to get cancer funeral. Truce? I just felt like u could have asked me about my beliefs without all the sarcasm to me it didn't seem like u wanted clarification u just wanted to poke fun at what I believe in
someguest 09.16.12	Indian stole my bread! BAM! Oh, I'm sorry.
AtomicShane 09.16.12	spent one day on reddit....but really, I have never been a believer.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	""Why do we thank God when we recover from a disease or sickness? How about thanking your body, or science for that matter." watch out or bungy will think you are trying to be superior" If you continue that practice one could also state that it was God who is responsible for the medical discoveries that led to diverse cancer treatments.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	Exactly Mr. guest. Criticizing religion is not the same thing as Christians who criticize atheism. One is just using basic logic that needs proof of such grandiose claims, and the other just points to everything written in a revised book with no other evidence other than itself. Also religion has been the driving factor in millions of deaths over the years, and still continues to be. So yea theres a reason many atheists/agnostics look down on Christians and other heavily religious folk. Its because we think what they believe and base much of their life around is a joke. But hey as long as you're a good person thats all that matters I guess.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	I mean like it was God who made these scientists surpass themselves.
Trebor. 09.16.12	I didn't think this would blow up oops
Atari 09.16.12	"maybe somebody wished his brother's lungs would fail" Are you fucking serious? That's not cool man. He has to take like 15 pills a day (anti-rejection) crap for the new lungs. I shouldn't have said I hope you get cancer just don't be so insensitive.
TumsFestival 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k&list=FLs_6f1rjiUuv-2DOB1WcJIg&index=14&feature=plpp_video
evilford 09.16.12	List closed for posting by moderators.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	List reopened.
someguest 09.16.12	Yeah, God killed millions of people in the Bible. Satan killed like six. Who's the real devil?
TumsFestival 09.16.12	srsly
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	surprised to see that sonic hasn't been here today
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	The Bible is bullshit, I as a religious person think so. But worshipping satan is even worse.
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	"Yeah, God killed millions of people in the Bible. Satan killed like six." his murdering of people is clearly righteous because he made people and those he killed were "sinful"
Atari 09.16.12	@Trebor, you were wrong. lol.
jdennis31 09.16.12	sonic is my alt, i'm here.
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	"The Bible is bullshit, I as a religious person think so. But worshipping satan is even worse." hahahaha
someguest 09.16.12	"his murdering of people is clearly righteous because he made people and those he killed were "sinful"' lmfao
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	not to mention the time he gambled on jobe's love? what a bitch, doesn't he say not to do such things with people and yet?
TumsFestival 09.16.12	I stopped probably around 13 or 14, I don't believe that what happened in the bible really happened, but I do believe that the stories found within could be interpreted as good life lessons.
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	"sonic is my alt, i'm here." you haven't said queef or m/ yet I don't believe you.
jdennis31 09.16.12	neck. fag
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	so murder is ok if its righteous? cool! now i have a valid reason to murder everyone i dont like! also congrats robert in a successful thread!
someguest 09.16.12	Job is the biggest reason not to believe in a God at all. Talk about getting cockslapped every day of your life.
Atari 09.16.12	damn funeral no truce?
KILL 09.16.12	all religious threads get 4905834985 comments and theyre always the same make a list about GUN CONTROL next
someguest 09.16.12	I can't control my arms.
bungy 09.16.12	I WAAAANT TO CONQUER THE WOORLD Okay, I will put an end to all religious talk (lol) So Christian religion is based on faith according to the Bible (probably). Which means that there would be little to no actually proof, because you would only believe based on what you feel and have experienced. Therefore you can't prove or disprove the Christian god. You can only try it out and decide you hate it. Very convenient. How'd I do?
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
jdennis31 09.16.12	lol. job. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjQTPoEfQg
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
Atari 09.16.12	not bad. I don't think you can prove or disprove god but I still choose to believe.
KILL 09.16.12	but u cant disporve god so i will believe in what i was brought up to believe!! the universe has a plan!
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
bungy 09.16.12	"Job is the biggest reason not to believe in a God at all. Talk about getting cockslapped every day of your life." lol
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	"make a list about GUN CONTROL next" but that's a constitutional right! nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
evilford 09.16.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0Nnz0gKSI
someguest 09.16.12	Speaking of the Constitution, this group of very intelligent world changers gets together and creates a superior system of government using their minds and past experiences. Then they thank God for it. This country was doomed from the start.
bungy 09.16.12	If I was them I would've taken more credit
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	Our founding fathers were not christians though. They were deists. http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
Ignimbrite 09.16.12	I still believe. Suck it.
someguest 09.16.12	I said they thanked God for it.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	yea i know but not the christian god. they just believed in a generic god that didnt concern itself with humans or talk to them n ish
bungy 09.16.12	The founding fathers were deists not Christians you say it like THAT'S reasonable
someguest 09.16.12	Does it really matter what imaginary man you thank?
evilford 09.16.12	Flying lizards?? You're a moron! God was fucking with you!
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	well considering it was 250 years ago that was still more logical than todays christians
LifeAsAChipmunk 09.16.12	"I still believe. Suck it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-D4jmkUiQ
MoosechriS 09.16.12	i think it was when i was around 8 or 9 years old when i started questioning the idea of bad things happening to good people. I remember being told as a child that if you were a good person and lived a good life that god would look after you, i then realised this was crap. I then began to become quite horified at the way peoples religion seemed to dictate their lives and the control it imposed on people.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	also we hear alot of the far right say shit like "this country was founded on christianity" when thats just not true. yea deists still believed in a creator of some sort, but it has nothing to do with christianity.
someguest 09.16.12	Right wingers are idiots though.
ITsHxCTOASTER 09.16.12	I was too old. Like 15-16 It was just a slow process of questioning religion until I eventually just decided I was an agnostic and within two weeks or something I was an atheist.
Blackbelt54 09.16.12	Treb how specifically has yr life improved? Not arguing just curious
JohnnyoftheWell 09.16.12	So because Santa and the Easter bunny don't exist, nor does God? nice argument
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	I feel like true Christianity is very much dying, most people follow a secular, watered down version version of the religion. Basically people believe God watches you and guides you and think Jesus is probably his son. That is pretty much as far it goes with most people.
DocSportello 09.16.12	I never really stopped believing in God, but it wasn't until I took LSD my freshman year of college that I came full circle in understanding this.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	faith is a character flaw
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	Wow that's a lot of comments
Funeralopolis 09.16.12	"you can't disprove God" Well technically you can because how it works is that you can come up with any notion whatsoever such as aliens created us, or that there are invisible monsters in my house. Do you believe there are unicorns or invisible monsters? Of course not, because there is no basis of evidence.
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	Religulous Is such an amazing movie lol I need to watch that right now
menawati 09.16.12	The onus isn't on atheists to disprove the existence of god. It's bizarre that it seems to be the generally accepted viewpoint that God exists and that we are supposed to work back from that supposition. If I said 'I believe in invisible flying elephants please disprove me' it would be laughable. You have a theory, then you use measurements to prove it or theoretical physics to refine it. Apply that to God or fail on credibility.
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	I do just fine without faith in fact when Christians and catholics die they'll be real disappointed when there is no afterlife. I really hate the ego driven religious people like " oh I KNOW I'm going to heaven when I die" fucking pisses me off
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	"Christians and catholics die they'll be real disappointed when there is no afterlife" no they wont theyll be dead
Emim 09.16.12	just stopping by to say hi, hype. I'm gonna continue believing what I believe until you can prove me wrong. Good luck.
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	It's a joke obviously
someguest 09.16.12	There isn't anything to prove. You're just stuck in fantasyland.
Trebor. 09.16.12	How can one disprove something that has no factual basis in the first place
Emim 09.16.12	I'm not going to argue with you guys. Not because of any lack of confidence or evidence, but because I'm not willing to vainly justify my beliefs against those who aren't even willing to listen and give fair purchase.
KILL 09.16.12	why would anyone study bullshit!!! tehe
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	"im pretty sure this list is proof that the majority of sputnik is oblivious to religion and nobody here has ever studied it." prove it you cant guess what that means jesus wasnt real!
someguest 09.16.12	"im pretty sure this list is proof that the majority of sputnik is oblivious to religion and nobody here has ever studied it." Thanks for saying absolutely nothing. I didn't know you had to have a degree in something to have knowledge of it.
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	cappy you just smoked a blunt didnt u
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	shut up
Solisis 09.16.12	when does he not
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	Emim Im curious to hear any evidence of your beliefs without pointing to the bible. Thats all meng
KILL 09.16.12	THE BIBLE IS A LIE I DEFY THE LYING PRIEST GOD DOESN'T CONTROL MY LIFE I CHOOSE MY OWN DESTINY RELIGION IS FOR THE WEAK YOUR SOUL WILL DIE FOREVER GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES THERE IS NO GOD IN HEAVEN
menawati 09.16.12	"I'm not going to argue with you guys. Not because of any lack of confidence or evidence, but because I'm not willing to vainly justify my beliefs against those who aren't even willing to listen and give fair purchase." You don't HAVE to justify anything you believe in. But you say you don't lack evidence so........serve it up. If it's compelling I'll be down the church on Sunday.
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	Religion is fucking evil
Emim 09.16.12	And I can do that, with several sources. DRAMATIC SUSPENSE... But I won't
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	no you cant
KILL 09.16.12	lmao
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	Guys Emim has found proof of God and the bible!! This is groundbreaking shit we might be on the news later!!
KILL 09.16.12	jesus sucked his own dick hes gay
someguest 09.16.12	At least it seems Emim has good intentions.
menawati 09.16.12	Well emim, I can give you 2 bits of evidence why God may exist and I bet they are more believable than what you can provide even tho they are just childlike rejections of some theoretical physics 'laws' that are imperfect. (and I'm not trying to sound aggressive btw bcos you come across as polite and don't deserve abuse)
KILL 09.16.12	evidence?? for godz?? damn i gosta hear
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	my god gave your god swirlies in highschool
Emim 09.16.12	Evidence that lends credence to the Bible's validity, that I can provide. Proving God isn't something you can do in a lab, nor should it be, my little philosophers.
KILL 09.16.12	if god is real and sees all then why didnt he smite my dick for fuckin my sister? it doesnt happen so stfui
macadoolahicky 09.16.12	I personally believe in God, but I'm not going to shove my beliefs down other people's throats. Also, majority of my friends are atheists
KILL 09.16.12	if you believe in godyou are dumb i will choose freewill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
menawati 09.16.12	"Proving God isn't something you can do in a lab, nor should it be" - why not ?
KILL 09.16.12	YOU CAN FCALL ME FAITHLESS YOU CAN CALL ME FAITHLESS I STILL CLING TO HOPE AND I BELIEV IN LOVE AND THATS FAITH ENOUGH FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	"Evidence that lends credence to the Bible's validity" id legitimately like to see this, and whether you mean vaildity as actually being the word of god and not just written by man
someguest 09.16.12	lol KILL
menawati 09.16.12	'Evidence that lends credence to the Bible's validity', evidence of the bible's validity in certain aspects like correlation with other historical chronicles is not proof of god btw.
KILL 09.16.12	hey guys the bible was in the fiction section in my library b00m /thread fuckers
ViralOblivion 09.16.12	Apparently he has no idea the story of Jesus has been told over and over and before jesus
KILL 09.16.12	and my dick in ur ass
KILL 09.16.12	god is deeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
YankeeDudel 09.16.12	id like to read a bible by dr seuss actually
someguest 09.16.12	festering boils by dr. seuss
NoMeansYes 09.16.12	GOD HATES US ALL!! m/
KILL 09.16.12	ricky gervais just isnt a funny stand up it sucks cos his shows rule
KILL 09.16.12	hes only funny with stephen merchant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KILL 09.16.12	flutter do you believe in angelz xx
KILL 09.16.12	fight my dick fuck u puzsy
KILL 09.16.12	hitchens is in hell cos he didnt believe in god and at the pearly gates god said neck!
Yazz_Flute 09.16.12	DO YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE AFTER LOVE
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"I don't get why everyone wastes their time talking about there beliefs on a music website who's user base is mainly between the age of 9-18" That's right, leave it to those over 20 to decide whether God exists or not. I vote yes.
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	"im pretty sure this list is proof that the majority of sputnik is oblivious to religion and nobody here has ever studied it." [2] Nor have I, which makes me even more of a believer.
Hyperion1001 09.16.12	this thread went from awful to life-threateningly horrible pretty fast
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	the big bang started the world and the universe as we know it, agreed. But let me just ask one simple question to atheists: how come there was that little something out of which the 'explosion' that we call the big bang would occur? Hmmmm?? And if in the future one scientist would come up with a theory for that, then we would still be able to prolong this thought... So there is only one option left, there is something/someone almighty. I prefer to call it/him/her God.
klap 09.16.12	predictable thread
klap 09.16.12	for the record i guess i would be considered atheist but it's nice to see all the atheists here being arguably more confrontational/aggressive/worked-up-about-something-they-shouldn't-even-care-about then everyone else
klap 09.16.12	wait andcas i accept your nomination
bakkermaarten007 09.16.12	Haha, just saw this: "I didn't think this would blow up oops" Lol, you knew exactly what would happen.
breakingthefragile 09.16.12	Never believed in God honestly. My parents aren't really that religious at all, so they didn't enforce any religious policies on me growing up or anything. I heard about God from my friends and everything, but the idea just never made sense to me.
menawati 09.16.12	"the big bang started the world and the universe as we know it, agreed." No, that's just the most widely accepted theory atm until someone comes up with a better theory that fits what we can observe more accurately. "But let me just ask one simple question to atheists: how come there was that little something out of which the 'explosion' that we call the big bang would occur? Hmmmm??" Well the theory postulates a singularity so there wasn't any 'little something' and there was no 'space' to 'explode' into. Y'know it's all that general relativity stuff about 4th dimensional space-time which not many people really understand (including me). However, not really understanding it and not having a grand unified theory of 'life the universe and everything' doesn't necessarily have to lead to the classic dim witted argument of 'god exists because science can't explain everything yet'.
ViperAces 09.16.12	10 comments alright haha
GiaNXGX 09.16.12	Lol omg.
FictionalFlames 09.16.12	I started to question God's existence when BirthRite started harassing me.
GiaNXGX 09.16.12	this is why I don't like to talk about religion.
oltnabrick 09.16.12	When I heard Slayer's Reign in Blood
Destructerator 09.17.12	I became an agnostic around 11th grade; agnostics are pretentious atheists, or atheists afraid of commitment. I'm full on atheist now at 21, but still spiritual: We're blessed to be bags of meat with the ability to give life subjective meaning. "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan
evilford 09.17.12	Agnostics are atheists afraid of commitment? Either retard or troll. In any case stfu
mindleviticus 09.17.12	When I was born
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	This is still happening though.
ViralOblivion 09.17.12	agnostics are retarded all they drink is dr pepper haha
Observer 09.17.12	i think theres a god. but i dont get his agenda
Observer 09.17.12	i must be God
ViralOblivion 09.17.12	doubt it and if you are god then youre a diiiiiiick
Observer 09.17.12	most people do doubt me. comes with the deity thing
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	WOEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I'm the only *DEITY on this board.
ViralOblivion 09.17.12	apparently god cant spell his own title deity. so god youre on a diet?
Observer 09.17.12	TheDjehuty... djehuty.... oh i get it! Hey move over, I'm God.
Observer 09.17.12	spellings for reviews. who cares
auberginedreams 09.17.12	holy shit you guys... if you want to believe in god, that's fine. if you don't want to believe in god, that's fine too. no need to try and shove your beliefs (or lack of beliefs) down each others throats. just let people live their lives the way the feel is right, whether that means being christian, muslim, atheist, whatever. militant atheists are just as annoying as preachy religious folks.
auberginedreams 09.17.12	not gonna take the bait, but nice try!
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	I am a woman, I am the god of this board.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Damn he just called you a commoner.
auberginedreams 09.17.12	oh shit.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	My uterus is mine.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Snotballs is easy.
witchxrapist 09.17.12	why would you compare the lord and savior to fictional capitalist idols?
MO 09.17.12	wow what did I just read this thread is terrible
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Sunn ((O))) 4EVER.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Sunn ((O))) 4 God.
mifzal 09.17.12	it seems most of you assume if there is a god he's the christian one!
mifzal 09.17.12	"yeah because islam is the dumbest thing in the entire universe and asian gods are elephants and monkeys with 12 arms" wrong! because most of them were Christians! and at back of their minds they are still Christians! same would be if they were form any other faith! it's kinda backup plan for them!
mifzal 09.17.12	no offence but isn't christian god human look alike with active testosterone?
HypedMerchant 09.17.12	I don't think I ever really believed in God, my parents aren't the religious type of people either.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	This is still happening.... and I'm still supporting Sunn ((O))) for god.
BlueW 09.17.12	Bismillah hirRohman niRohim
mifzal 09.17.12	"This is still happening.... and I'm still supporting Sunn ((O))) for god." you mean ancient Babylon god Shamash or Egyptian god Raa
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Nope, I mean Egyptian god Thoth who was the god that created all gods through text and language.
mifzal 09.17.12	why not Chuck Norris
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	Chuck Norris is overrated.
TheDjehuty 09.17.12	I vote aliens.
Graveyard 09.17.12	when I asked "where did God come from?"
SabertoothMonocle 09.17.12	Thread should read: "When did you start believing in Cthulhu?"
mifzal 09.17.12	"when I asked "where did God come from?"' once scientists believed that universe had no beginning until they discovered big bang! (which means even scientist could believe something could exist without a start) So i guess it's easy for theologists to answer that he had no beginning!
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	"once scientists believed that universe had no beginning until they discovered big bang! (which means even scientist could believe something could exist without a start) So i guess it's easy for theologists to answer that he had no beginning! " Jup, God is immanent.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	I will not even try to explain how pathetic and laughable I find you.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	I don't feel superior at all, you on the other hand must have an inferiority issue, since you're constantly trying to get my attention.
Relinquished 09.17.12	"Oh, look, dickhead's back! HEY, BAKKER! HOW DID ALL THE CRYING, PRAYING AND JERKING OFF GO LAST NIGHT? HAVE YOU COME BACK TO INSULT MORE PEOPLE OVER THEIR BELIEFS?" yeah I can see how this is pathetic and laughable
omnipanzer 09.17.12	Answer is to complex for a post. Short answer is when I saw how horrible Christians could be to other Christians.
Hyperion1001 09.17.12	thread sucks now dont post in it wolfe
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	I see this too many times Omni. So many people don't believe in God because of all the curelty in the world, but God created us as smart, independent beings that are culpable for their own actions. God is the architect, but can't control his creations only guide them.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	"Much earlier in this thread he was belittling people who don't believe in God and basically calling them pathetic, before insulting people by calling them idiots for making statements against christianity (not offensive statements, mind you). So, yeah, I will be pathetic and laughable to go out of my way and watch this guy try and defend himself." Show me where I said that.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	You're arguments are as worthless as those of people trying to invoke racism in a case they already know they've lost. ""He's an idiot. Like religious people wouldn't be working for a better planet? Like a better afterlife for oneself is selfish? A better afterlife is gained by working for a better planet. What a nimwit."" How did I insult atheists here, I only insulted your idol which is no big deal. You make it as such. ""Indeed, the life of an atheist is one without hope, in a box, with only certainties and little aspirations."" Opinions mixed with facetious sputnik talk. And this: "So, yeah, I will be pathetic and laughable to go out of my way and watch this guy try and defend himself." Please... I don't feel like I even have to defend myself in the slightest way, this argument we're having is neglectable.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	And I'm not even doing this in my native language, lucky you.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	I don't need to win, you can have this one. In fact, you've already won because I've let myself drag along. I'm not your enemy, do know that.
bakkermaarten007 09.17.12	I'm not serious about this, thought you were. It's okay then. gbye.
witchxrapist 09.17.12	"How did I insult atheists here, I only insulted your idol which is no big deal. You make it as such." I DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE SO YOURE STUPID FOR CARING ABOUT IT yeah dude, you made yourself look sooooo much more intellectual
menawati 09.17.12	wow thread still rolling on
menawati 09.17.12	ye, arguing about religion is ultimately futile but it's hard to resist
someguest 09.17.12	When did Snoxall grow a pair of balls on here anyway? Go back to bein' a pussy.
Hyperion1001 09.17.12	hes still a retard
TheDjehuty 09.18.12	Sunn ((O))) for god, aliens for creation. WOEEEEMMMMMMMMM.
TheDjehuty 09.18.12	I caught myself cleaning my house today going "woeeeemmmmmmm."
ViralOblivion 09.18.12	I can see this going to 1000 comments
Crymsonblaze 09.18.12	Arguing religion is pointless.
jrm96 09.18.12	i never have
mifzal 09.18.12	it's ok to be atheist or agnostic or even religious in my opinion. just don't shove it down our throats just because you think you have "found the truth"
Scoot 09.18.12	the day i found out that snooki is a best selling author
North0House2 09.18.12	Well, Santa and the Easter Bunny are based on paganism (just like pretty much all of Christianity). I still believe in God, though. But a whole buttload of religion is just mankind's crap.
North0House2 09.18.12	Also, when some Christian gives you some BS like," It's CHRISTmas. Not Xmas." Just tell them that the holiday's based on the reincarnation of Mythra, the Winter Solstice, ancient Babylonian Paganism, and Santa is a representation of the ancient god Molech, to whom ancient peoples sacrificed their children (that or Thor. He's both combined, really.) Easter is even worse. Always a fun reaction.
mifzal 09.18.12	"I still believe in God, though. But a whole buttload of religion is just mankind's crap.'' I've no problem in accepting a force/being responsible for everything that exists! but not those man-made crap! paganism is something very laughable it's like seeing a soap opera of gods having children and destroying each other (basically behaving like human begins)! much like game of thrones!
North0House2 09.18.12	Pagan culture is always really fascinating to me. Lol. It's so weird. Especially the ancient Babylonian beliefs; which, ironically, are what most of the church is based off of. Those are so weird.
mifzal 09.18.12	i think paganism has it's root in most of the religions! from ancient Babylonia to Hinduism to modern Christianity! just few copy pastes from each other!
mifzal 09.18.12	"Pagan culture is always really fascinating to me'' I've to admit it's fun to know and study about religions and how human psychology work in different times of history! but it is very stupid!
North0House2 09.18.12	Yeah, it's crazy stuff. No doubt.
Trebor. 09.18.12	Stop bumping this shit
North0House2 09.18.12	I'll stop humping when I'm dead.
zxlkho 09.18.12	Damn, I was sure this wasn't r/atheism...
TheDjehuty 09.18.12	FLUTTER PLEASE DO THAT. I NEED TO KNOW.
chrisd555 09.20.12	When the reverends gave a sermon at the 9/11 memorial, one said "even if the victims could come back to earth they would not, for they are enjoying the splendours of heaven." A) Surely they all couldn't have gone to heaven? Surely there were a few sinners even among the victims, by the church's standards. B) He claimed to know what their posthumous desires were, which is bordering on offensive, and; C) I realised that Osama bin Laden was most likely saying the same thing in a khutbah for the dead hijackers. Then I began to learn ancient history. Christianity's scriptures contradict themselves, Islam is made up from parts of the Christian and Jewish 'myths'. Judaism has the unfortunate position of watching these two ripoff cults rise to become more than just a cult, all monotheisms are like overblown cults which have really taken off and garnered a lot of capital and land. Try to imagine all the millions of people, throughout time, who've been made miserable by religion and the oppressive dogmatic 'believers' who are leading a 'good wholesome life'. If you need rules to remind you to lead a moral life, then these are the kinds of people who become pederast priests or devout lunatics. It takes faith to go to church every week and pray and follow scriptures. It takes a whole other level of devout to kill and rape in the name of a religion. Religion is synonymous with mental illness
evilford 09.20.12	plz let thread die