AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.04.12 | Judging from your ratings and description of ITAOTS I think that avant-garde and avant-garde
influenced music just isn't for you. That's all right though, it's just your opinion and stuff, stop
being so immature about it you child. |
Trebor.
08.04.12 | I love in the aeroplane but that shit ain't avante garde it's just a fun indie/folk record |
Satellite
08.04.12 | tl;dr |
Scoot
08.04.12 | agreed that 1 is overrated but its still a great album |
Satellite
08.04.12 | scoot we live in a world of absolutes. get with the times man. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.04.12 | "I love in the aeroplane but that shit ain't avante garde it's just a fun indie/folk record"
It falls under avant-garde influence for it's lo-fi production techniques and just to be repetitive, influence from avant-garde music. Communist Daughter is backed by a tape-collage, Oh Comely has no typical pop, rock, or folk song structures. The album also has tons of influence from traditional folk music including throat singing traditions. I'm not gonna write you a review but you get the idea.
It's a very serious album too, the lyrics are poetic and confessional. idk wut u listened to |
Hipster9000
08.04.12 | Thank you for ripping on this. |
Trebor.
08.04.12 | A guy who probably is a failed abortion making a list about a sweet album calling it a failed abortion
sweet |
Trebor.
08.04.12 | Not avante garde |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.04.12 | You people are dumb. |
Trebor.
08.04.12 | I'm pretty sure you and mysterio are the dumb ones here
People like you who think neutral milk hotel are all deep and avante garde and are pretentious about it are why people hate in the aeroplane, just sayin |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | I didn't say it was an avant-garde album holy shit. I said it was avant-garde influenced which it is. |
Leatherneck
08.05.12 | actually 'failed abortion' is not the worst thing you can call ITAOTS, it's a decent way to describe many of the song features. The album is fine btw |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | This site's community is absolutely moronic sometimes. |
Calc
08.05.12 | I agree that one is overrated... |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | This dude is calling the kettle black |
wacknizzle
08.05.12 | I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIST!
JESUS CHRIST I LOVE YOU YES I DOOOOOOOOO!
I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIST!
JESUS CHRIST I LOVE YOU YES I DOOOOOOOOO! |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | It never fails to amaze me that a site which houses users who obsess over rating albums is full of people with limited to no actual knowledge of popular music or its history.
I believe the condescending thing to say here would be "Stay in school kids". |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | Wow you are a pretentious cunt, and the funny thing is you don't actually know shit so not only are you pretentious and condescending, you are false |
jdennis31
08.05.12 | i don't really like these guys much but title track on aeroplane is pretty great |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | I'm no pop music historian but I certainly know when I'm correct, so if having that knowledge makes me a pretentious cunt then I'm cool with that. I fail to see how you could fairly label someone you don't know as pretentious because they don't agree with you when it comes to music but all right, I'm not gonna dispute it.
If there's one thing the claims I've made about ITAOTS aren't however, it's false. |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | "I'm no pop music historian but I certainly know when I'm correct"
Get off your pedestal jesus christ |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | "Get off your pedestal jesus christ"
Was that satire? |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | You are a condescending douche fuck off |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | Yeah, usually the people that are the most wrong are the most adamant that they're right |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | You guys are so rude, I just wanted to clear the incorrect notions people have about ITAOTS. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Honestly, you guys can't just stick your fingers in your ears and shout "lalalala dis band is gr8 ur just dum 4 sayin dat stufs about it lol", apart from "AGuyIsWatchingYou" all your rebuttals have been just that... And as I already said, I made a point of just listening to the quality of the music, and while my personal opinion on the "deep meanings" is definitely no better than what I gave in my review, the actual, physical, quantitative, quality of the music simply is not good.
Also let's get some Web Society in this, they're getting lost in all the hipster hate going on.
Also Lakes, just wanted to say your avatar is sweet, FOTR is the bomb. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | i see what youre doing...i see what this guy is about |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Musical quality (aka dynamics) is measured in terms of simplicity and complexity though, not good or bad. If there's one thing music theory does a good job of it's never telling people what music is good or bad.
Regardless ITAOTS is complex in its melodies and is very tight instrumentally save for the few times it goes into wild and loud "jamming" such as the fuzzy near crescendo of King of Carrot Flowers Pt. 3 and the sporadic drumming of Holland, 1945. I would argue however that these wild sections are intentionally there, not just the result of poor band chemistry. The lyrics are also incredibly important in pop music though, we can say that the music is the only thing that should be judged but really though, when they are present they should matter and should be well written.
And to be perfectly honest every word in your "review" from "For a final note" just makes you seem like an asshole who can't accept personal opinions. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Maybe if you listened to more music |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | It isn't tight at all, just listen to King of Carrot Flowers Pt. 2; choppy and out of sync with each other, constant mishits on the guitar, all while the singer is off in la-la land... It sounds like they accidentally caught some guy outside the studio yelling on their recording and were too lazy to edit it out. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Actually King of Carrot Flowers Pt. 2 is just Jeff, a drone added in production and some bizarre (most likely non-musical) instrument until the fuzzy electric guitar and drum crashes kick in together. This lasts in an extremely together way until the music becomes bombastic and Jeff starts singing the lyrics to Pt. 3 (Up and over we go). |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | I should mention that through the entire King of Carrot Flowers suite the band keeps playing the same three chords in 4/4 time, it is extremely tight. The only differences are in tempo, texture and the actual instruments used. Despite this constancy the band maintains the bombastic sound of Pt. 3. |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | Damn now I'm going to sound condescending but yeah mysterio just doesn't get it |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | You guys don't sound condescending, I'm just picturing you all with big black rimmed glasses, gatsbys, and sweater vests. You're right, I don't get it. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Then there it is, the classic dismissal of music or its listeners as "hipsters" because you don't like it. I believe we're done here. |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | bro I got long blonde hair a sweet goatee an anti-flag shirt and definitely no glasses vegan footwear or anything like that |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | It's not because I don't like it, it's because you say I don't like it because "I don't get it", as if only you and your hyper-intelligent brethren are capable of comprehending subtext and symbolism. There are 7 billion people on this planet, and you're no different from any of the other ones, stop thinking you're special. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | lol he seems to be under the impression that if people listen to music he doesnt like that they must be doing it for some kind of fashion, and that they dont actually like it. |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | No the way you're describing it, you literally don't get it |
Calc
08.05.12 | mysterio you should've just written reviews with the amount of text you put here |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | silentpotato you aren't very nice. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Sorry I'm new here, I'm still figuring out what all the stuff is. But you're probably right, now that I've looked at some other lists, these things do seem pretty excessive.
P.S. Silentpotato stop trying to be a lonewolf, pick a fucking side or get out, nobody shares your retarded opinions. |
Trebor.
08.05.12 | You don't get to 40k comments being nice |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | REVEAL YOUR TRUE IDENTITY, HERETICAL DEVIANT. YOUR BLASPHEMY SHALL NOT GO UNPUNISHED. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | "please don't stop you guys. i can't pay for this kind of entertainment"
That on the other hand was condescending. |
Calc
08.05.12 | well do it...too many of these reviews are the same it'd be interesting to see a different take on some bands. just be prepared for shyt storm after shyt storm lol |
HitlerIsTheBest
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Mysterio
08.05.12 | Quit judging people Guy. And Hep, care to share your opinion on the topic at hand?
I don't suppose I could just copy and paste this into a review could I? Would that be against some sort of spam rule, because if it won't get me banned I'd be glad to. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | You should start being nicer to people. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Hep Kat I'm glad you can disagree and not be offended, as for the other album, I can assure you what you've heard is correct. Sonic your comments are rather cryptic, I see what you're saying but as we have opinions ranging from exact opposite ends of the spectrum I don't see how your comment applies. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | "Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so."
Actually that's what I think, like when people say they wish war would stop but don't believe it ever will because "it's in our nature". Those are the people who keep it from changing because they aren't willing to hope it will change. The first segment from the Radiolab episode "New Normal?" touches on this.
http://www.radiolab.org/2009/oct/19/
Listen to it if you have the time.
I'm getting off topic though. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | You're mom is gay |
silentpotatofan
08.05.12 | its funny because silent is a 5 in all of those |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | user silentpotato
maturity level: 0.1/5
intellect: -0.5.2/5
personality: -5.6/5
musical knowledge: -1.8/5
over-all: dumbass.13/5
Pitchfork Score: Best New Told |
silentpotatofan
08.05.12 | well thats wrong |
Calc
08.05.12 | pshh thats nothing my musical knowledge is -13/5i |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | That would be "Your mom is a lesbian", nice try Guy, very nice combo getting the sexual orientation and mom jokes all in one, 4/5 for effort on that one. And just for fun, did anybody other than Hep Kat even read the Web society one? Or were you unable to read on through your tears?
And I'll give Holland, 1945 another go, I doubt my opinion will change, but I'm open to it. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | "That would be "Your mom is a lesbian", nice try Guy, very nice combo getting the sexual orientation and mom jokes all in one, 4/5 for effort on that one. "
What is a joke Mysterio |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Joke: A thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, i.e a story with a funny punchline
Clarified?
Also I just listened to Holland, 1945 and I will say it is a lot better than the other songs on the album (for me). The lyrics aren't so intentionally disturbing, just somber. I'm definitely still not big on folk-y sound and (to put it nicely) "loose" technical work, but still, that song has to be the redeemer for this album. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Mysterio I was making a joke, it wasn't a serious insult. Clarified?
Also try listening to the song Ghost and tell me what you think, you didn't touch it in your "review". |
auberginedreams
08.05.12 | i feel like i love nmh for all the reasons you hate them. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | Never saw this one coming. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | I'm gonna check Web Society right now. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Alright I listened to Ghost yet again, and I seriously find his whiny voice too much, and they go again with the grinding, drilling guitar, sounds more like a jam session than a song. I ceded that Holland, 1945 wasn't as bad as I initially thought, and I'd advise against any other suggested revisions, as I think that that outcome is probably not going to happen again. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | LifeAsAChipmunk, you might want to get ready with a bowl to vomit your intestines into if you're seriously going to listen to them. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Yeah I've never even heard of that shit so I can't comment. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Guy, you are distinctly lucky. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | I'm listening now and it's not so bad. The lyrics are awful, the production is shoddy at best, the songwriting is rather weak, the vocals are terrible. I don't mind the riffs at all, at least they're there and audible.
However, compared to the pop punk I've heard (especially recently), this has more raw-feel and a lot of energy. I hate those vocals though, awful even for pop punk. 2.5 / 5 |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | I guess Neutral Milk Hotel just isn't for you then, different strokes for different folks and that jazz. But really, in the future please refrain from personally attacking everyone for liking the album and accusing them of wanting to be unique, that shit drives me insane. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | Upon reconsideration, considering how they are literally worse versions of Blink-182, and how I detest Blink-182, make that a 2.0 / 5. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Also I hate to keep going back to it, but could you check out the song Communist Daughter? Jeff's vocals and guitar playing are very relaxed on it and the sound collage that backs it gives it really great atmosphere in my opinion. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Chipmunk that's gold, and I hate Blink too. Almost as bad as Simple Plan.
Guy, though it may not be true for you, and you may genuinely like the album for it's, erm, qualities (Which I still find unlikely, but whatever), I don't think you could argue that most people who've given that album a 5 on this site, and you can read their "reasons", are just saying it to be different. Seriously, go sift through the ratings, for like 5 minutes, it's all: OH EM GEE, I tried to hate dis album but I just cant!!!!111" 6/5!!!!!11122212233"
Alright I listened to communist daughter, and I did like the first 50 seconds (especially that cricket chirping sound byte). However, I found it plodding and generic throughout the rest, and that horn solo near the end was pretty bad, imho. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | "Almost as bad as Simple Plan." Oh, definitely not. But I just don't like them that much. I really liked one of their albums but the not the rest. Simple Plan is just... |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | I've got "Self-titled" and "Dude Ranch" sitting on my lap, and I can't get Mark Hoppus' bloody voice out of my head now. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | No, that's utter bullshit. If they wanted to be different they would go against the general consensus and say they hated it. The album is ridiculously critically acclaimed and has a huge following so I don't know how you could even think they like it for the sake of being unique.
Just accept that people have different tastes than you. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | I'm fine with Mark's voice. It's nondescript but not bad. Tom's voice irritates the hell out of me. The only thing worse than Tom's voice is every other new pop punk band that tries to imitate it for God knows why. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Holy shit I've got Angels and Airwaves out now, and I swear to god I'm debating whether to just break it in half or not. It's seriously 1000x worse than I remember.
As for the critical acclaim, yeah as far as this site goes. It has a cult following. For the rest of us, it's creaky, nonsensical, and fragile at best. At worst, it's got no rhythm, sounds amateurish and half-assed, and is mildly disturbing. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | No you're absolutely wrong. It has huge fan bases on pretty much any general music community you can think of. Also it has large amounts of professional critical acclaim.
You're just going to have to grow up and accept that people have different tastes and preferences than you and that yours aren't fucking facts. Welcome to the real world, stop being an asshole over what people like. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | "I don't think you could argue that most people who've given that album a 5 on this site, and you can read their "reasons", are just saying it to be different."
how are they being different when sputnik collectively jacks off to the album? its no longer a cult record, its pretty well known. |
Weesnaw
08.05.12 | Aeroplane is good, it's a bit overrated here, but it's still pretty damn good for what it is |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | You're a fucking joke, grow up. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Your opinions aren't fact, music theory doesn't say anything about "good" or "bad". Learn something before you talk about it because you're fucking clueless. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Christ, you are the worst type of music listener. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Shut the fuck up you fucking immature moron. You and him are the farthest thing from mature, enjoy wasting your time blanketing your incorrect statements over this second rate RYM.
You two are fucking children. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | No mature person gives a single fuck what others listen to. A mature person doesn't call people "hipsters" and accuse them of wanting to be unique because they like something different. A mature person doesn't talk out of his ass because he thinks it makes him right.
Your posts continue to prove that you are nothing but an intolerable, worthless cunt of a human being. No shit I am mad you fucking genius. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Do you honestly think I care if I'm banned from posting among you insipid, moronic cunts who can't learn how to be decent fucking people? |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Probably, you guys give a great fucking reputation to this site. Maybe if you all learned how to convey your opinions without being fucking assholes to anyone who's indifferent this place would be halfway decent but no, you have to just act like fucking dumbasses and be a dick to everyone. Fuck you. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Go for it you fucking asshole. |
Calc
08.05.12 | so how bout dem yankees? |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Guy is butthurt because he knows everything I've said is true, and he can't handle his false identity crashing down around his
ears. One more time, for good measure, my opinion is that I don't like this album. The fact is that the musicality is all sloppily
done. That is the basis for my opinion. Seeing as all your comments have just been misdirected rage, with no cohesive
arguments actually presented, I'll just let you pretend you never opened your huge fucking mouth.
Oh yeah and you're still a fucking hipter. |
Dev518
08.05.12 | What the hell did I walk into... and no Neutral Milk Hotel is not avant-garde. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | No I'm butthurt because you're an absolute moron and fucking immature asshole. Fuck. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | But seriously, congrats, I'm fucking mad. You're that much of a cunt that I want to fucking punch something. I hope you seriously reconsider this and step back and realize what a goddamn dickhead you are. |
Dev518
08.05.12 | Can you guys just make out already? |
auberginedreams
08.05.12 | it's just the internet guys, let's all just take a deep breath. |
Dev518
08.05.12 | This shit is serious |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | No I will not fucking take a deep breath. This guy is a fucking moron and asshole and needs to know that he will never make it as an adult if he behaves like this. You do this in real life? Someone fucking kicks your ass because it's not normal, decent goddamn behavior. |
Dev518
08.05.12 | The sexual tension in here is making everyone just a little bit uncomfortable. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | I know you think bringing humor into this will make the situation better and I appreciate this but I'm sorry, I will not let someone get away with being this much of a moronic cunt of a human being. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | And before I go I might as well say, you don't get the album. You don't get music in general. If you knew a single thing about it you'd realize nothing you have said to describe it is correct save for your opinion which are neither right nor wrong. Your "technical" description and criticisms on the other hand? 110% inaccurate, learn some theory beyond a wikipedia page because you're clearly clueless. After you learn a bit, see if you still have the same views and if you do congratulations, you didn't understand one bit of theory. You are an idiot. Good job. |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | shut the fuck up holy shit |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | literally almost everything you've said in this thread is fucking stupid |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | you are also being a moronic cunt of a human being don't get ahead of yourself |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Just stop, you're only embarassing yourself, and being a complete diva... |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | jesus fucking crucified christ |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | this thread is like two abortions and a miscarriage on top of a prolapse |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Probably hasn't ever even heard web society before, god! |
ShadowRemains
08.05.12 | that wasn't the point |
Relinquished
08.05.12 | "And before I go I might as well say, you don't get the album. You don't get music in general."
lol just kill yourself |
oWhoadYo
08.05.12 | Hating on ITAOTS = Yay I'm so edgy!! |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | mysterio is a complete fuckwit but lol guy, look at what youre getting mad about. who cares if some random faggot thinks youre a hipster |
omnipanzer
08.05.12 | Yah not a fan of 1 myself but you are being a tad dramatic. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.05.12 | " If you go to a band like Opeth who is relatively unknown to the greater public"
Are you serious? Wow, go to any music site and they are one of the highest rated bands ever. Even everyone in Absolutepunk know Opeth. |
Ninjask
08.05.12 | This is so serious. Everybody loves an album I don't, gotta go complain about it. Obviously only I can be correct. |
macadoolahicky
08.05.12 | Congrats. Your first list has 160 comments on it from only one day |
tkxxx7
08.05.12 | only clicked cos i thought this was about satellite and someguest |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Holy shit, I'm not talking about the higher ratings with that example guys, I fucking love Opeth, what
I mean is if you ask any random guy on the street about their thoughts on Opeth, he'll think you're
high on crack. Most people have no idea who or what Opeth is. Try and understand that.
And seriously Adolf, I'm trying to understand what you're saying, but I can't quite get it. Go enlist
Nazis somewhere else, you're spacing me out.
And thanks, I wasn't exactly going for 160 pissy, rage induced comments; I actually wanted some well
thought out arguments. But at least some people on here are able to iterate a cohesive idea,
coincidentally, it seems to be almost singularly people who share my opinion. |
barcafan21
08.05.12 | i think ItAOtS is musically brilliant. but respect to you for putting that out there |
nash1311
08.05.12 | "only clicked cos i thought this was about satellite and someguest"
I Lol'd. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | what?...my message is pretty straightforward, idk how to dumb it down for you any more. |
nash1311
08.05.12 | Mysterio do you listen to NMH's type of music? Maybe that is why you don't like it. I mean I don't like them either but it isn't my cup of tea.
And while AGuyIsWatchingYou was a total tool, sonic was a pretty big pussy for reporting him |
TomArnoldsArmpit
08.05.12 | yeah |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Actually Mysterio I explained to you many times why this album is not simple and why I enjoy it. However instead of just responding to the points you decided to include in everyone of your posts something about how people don't actually like this album. You have some bizzare variation of a God Complex where you believe that your opinions about a widely acclaimed album are the only true and genuine ones. We could have had a fine discussion here had we just discussed opinions and music here but you, yes you ruined it by continuously ignoring my points and opting in for using bullshit words like hipster.
You don't like the album and that's ok, but your ideas about are incorrect. IRS a very unique and complex album. It is very tight as far as musicianship goes. You won't accept these points however and insist that the opposite is true. Even if your views of the album were correct they wouldn't make the album bad, as I said over and over again theory teaches us the concepts of simplicity and complexity, not good or bad. Good or bad are left up to the listener to decide, everyone takes away different things from music and that's what makes music so great. Music doesn't care about being right or wrong, it only cares about how the listener reacts to it. And if you think your reactions are the only real, correct ones I am so sorry but you're insane.
I tried over and over to have decent discussion but you, silent and sonic wanted to be asshes to me for speaking my mind. You're a full blown hyocrite if you blame us for ruining this thread. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Oh lovely auto-correct.
The IRS is a nice alternative to the word It's. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | wow...i think you care way too much. |
newjunkaesthetic93
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AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Why does everyone say "you care too much" or "it's just the Internet" whenever someone puts up an argument online? If anything it takes far less effort to keep with than an argument in real life. This isn't exactly messing up my schedule you know? |
nash1311
08.05.12 | I love how you use theory to prove your points as if music theory is the end all be all to music and if you don't know it you don't know anything about music. People like you disgust me. |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | youre just putting way too much effort into something that isnt worth much thought, thats the point. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Well it kind of is the basis for most Western art and popular music, you're reading too far into it though. If you want to argue complexity in music you do have to know theory, if you want to argue beauty it's another story. However this entire argument is based on complexity so theory knowledge is pretty central. |
Relinquished
08.05.12 | do you even know theory |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Yes and yes. I know theory, not an expert but I know music theory.
And NMH had a giant influence on Bach in case you didn't know. |
Relinquished
08.05.12 | look at me i know music theory too. inverted 6-4 chords, gmaj7, hemiolas, and never double the 5th or octave. |
omnipanzer
08.05.12 | Sonic is now mad |
profoundword
08.05.12 | "wait so you are saying neutral milk hotel is the basis for most western art and popular music?"
lol! good work guys, keep it up. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
08.05.12 | Neat stuff, I think I'm out now. |
silentpotatofan
08.05.12 | all of my laughter |
North0House2
08.05.12 | Gamma Knife is avant-garde
SORNE is avant-garde.
Neutral Milk is not.
Now, I will give it to you, NMH is overrated in my honest opinion. However, the lyricism is wonderful. Just because you might dislike a production style, lyrical style, or set of vocals doesn't mean the said artist is a failed abortion. Grow up. |
Mysterio
08.05.12 | Saying that just because the music is technically terrible doesn't mean it's bad is like saying just
because that painting is ugly as fuck doesn't mean it sucks. It does, it is, and it always will be,
end of discussion. There's no theory to change that, and there never will be. Stop being so
arrogant. And saying you "know theory" only makes you even more of a pretentious hipster.
I'm seriously loving how this already has like 190 comments. I can tell this will be the start of a
long and fruitful career.
Oh yeah and the title was pretty much just an attention grab, and was more of a reference to the
albums themselves than the actual artists, whom I've never met, and so cannot comment on. |
North0House2
08.05.12 | Music, just like all art, is subjective my friend.
After all, haven't we been raised to be post-modernists? (which I disagree with personally, but that's our education system.) |
IMZA1793
08.05.12 | lol |
North0House2
08.05.12 | Lol, yeah performance art does suck hahaha, that is a fact |
North0House2
08.05.12 | But my point is: what is true art? Is true art just aesthetically pleasing? Or is it emotionally challenging? The greatest artists that have ever lived have not chosen to paint a countryside because it was beautiful, but instead painted emotionally upsetting scenes, wrote disturbing books, filmed warped and twisted movies, and created challenging and complex song structures. If everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt, then wouldn't live be empty and without contrast? What is beauty, if there is nothing to contrast it- providing its definition and recognition.
K done now. Time for me to get some shut eye. |
North0House2
08.05.12 | Lol, silent lol that made my night. lol. |
IMZA1793
08.05.12 | horrible mental image |
TheFonz123
08.05.12 | in the aeroplane over the sea is a great album. that's my two cents |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | wait, silentpotatofan? what the fuck is this |
Spec
08.05.12 | Description of this list should have just said RosaParks and Auber... |
HitlerIsTheBest
08.05.12 | nice edit, spec. IM TELLING ON YOU. |
Spec
08.05.12 | Yeah decided neutral is fine. |
Spec
08.05.12 | But he's gotten pretty good at pushing people buttons with his own stupidity. That's what a troll is! |
mangasm
08.06.12 | tl;dr
Neutral Milk is overrated though. |
Mysterio
08.11.12 | Glad you agree. |
fireandblood
08.11.12 | This is dumb as fuck |
ShadowRemains
08.11.12 | lol this thread |
Shocker
02.22.13 | Hey man, thanks for listening to my band. From the looks of it, you listened to pretty much all of the stuff we recorded. Perhaps the music wasn't the greatest, but it sure was fun to play. Isn't that what it's all about in the end, fun? Anyway, thanks for your honesty and patience (you know you didn't have to listen to it if you didn't like it, but you pulled through like a true trooper). |