hopefully better than leveler, shit was extremely forgettable

Gonna go out on a limb and say it will sound exactly like their past three albums. Call me crazy but I have a hunch.

Can't wait for this. Leveler was good but they can do much better. ABR is yet to disappointing and I really doubt they will start anytime soon.

"ABR is yet to disappointing"


from the mouth of babes

Meh. I liked constellations, but leveler bores me after a while.

"leveler bores me after a while."

What doesn't?

"What doesn't?"

Better albums probably

Band ran out of ideas two albums ago

Constellations was them realizing and focusing on their strengths and Leveler was them doing THE EXACT SAME THING over again.

I liked Leveler after listening to it a few times but I never listened to it again. It was too similar to Constellations, I'm hoping they'll break their mold(in a good way) this time. I've never been big on this band or melodic metalcore but I loved Constellations.

constellations is fantastic yea agreed

They need to expand on Constellations more. Leveler was pretty good but Constellations had more of a lasting value to it and had better songwriting. Hopefully on this new one they do it better than Leveler.

Band is meh but will still check out when it's released.

Excited as fuck. Love this band.

Messengers was their best to date. Constellations had its moments like with Meddler, but most of them were pretty poorly structured.

Hey, if it's like Constellations, that's fine with me.

I'm hoping that by "ambitious" they mean more towards BTBAM rather than more clean vocals crap like they've had on Leveler

Will suck.

If they combine the tight knit songwriting they had on Constellations with some of the more progressive stuff they showed on Leveler this could be an awesome album.

Either way, always excited for new ABR

Will rule

the mods added the SOON part lol

I'm retarded what else is nu

The track "Internal Cannon" from Leveler was a good step in the right direction for the group. If their next album contains stuff like this, it should be a really legit album.

hopefully better than leveler, shit was extremely forgettable [2]

I quite liked Leveler...
I just think the ABR sound is getting stale cause all their stuff is the same + the same as all the other Metalcore bands....

I'm so damn pumped for this.

This better have a different vibe than Leveler or anything before it. I loved their style on Messengers and Constellations but now they need to change it up. If they don't they're just going to become another average Metalcore band. And that would make me saaaad. "THEY'RE ALREADY AN AVERAGE METALCORE BAND!" Obviously I disagree, so save it.

I am extremely excited for this.

I might check this out to

I might check this out to.

I thought Constellations had some great stand-outs, but was overall forgettable. For me, ABR will always be trying to top Thrill Seeker

oH SHIT.

ambitious and august burns red
lol

Super excited for this as it is, but that description from the guitarist just upped it.

Last two albums were excellent.

This could be a pretty good year for metalcore. Shai Hulud kicked it off pretty fantastically and I hope ABR puts out something great

recoding, eh?

must be a typo

Why does every fucking metalcore band try to convince us that they will be groundbreaking. They have never played anything "different", It's always been the same and it always will.

:D

August burns red could write 1000 songs that sound the same. And I would love every one.

Messengers was awesome and Constillations had some cool songs.

I thought everyone loved ABR? I'm excited for this as always.

I will listen when it comes out. Never got their last CD though.

I will enjoy it when it comes out because its abr

Carson & Grant are the coolest dudes on the planet

band is consistently very good with 1 or 2 great tracks, i assume this will be no different
which is to say i want this

"Recoding"

Recode the shit out of that album, ABR.

I still love Thrill Seeker but I haven't been able to get into anything after that. Will probably check this one out though.

Constellations is one of my favorite albums. I never get tired of it. Never really got into Leveler, though.

Definitely agree with the the people saying Leveler got boring quite fast. Like, I enjoyed it for a good few weeks or so, but man did that album wear out quick.

Hopefully this album includes the various elements found on Leveler and tight musicianship found on Constellations, and I guess I'll be happy.

You guys know Shai Hulud has a new album right?

....

they knew exactly when to by artistic (for lack of a better word) and when to be outright heavy on constellations. level was just unfocused.

"You guys know Shai Hulud has a new album right?"

That has nothing to do with anything

It will be twiddly dee doo's and breakdowns.

every song in the same minor key

will rule

just like the new Shai Hulud

If only I was still 16 damn I could enjoy this

should sound like an august burns red album

Messengers was Monotonous, Constellations and Leveler have some good material.

Leveler was (progressive) metal with core elements, Messengers and Constellations were pure metalcore, easy as pie. If the new record will have enough breakdowns to be pure metalcore, the record will be fine for me. Leveler was a forgettable riff festival in the end. Lol at the "EXACT SAME THING" guys over here, ABR always had progression.

Lol at the "EXACT SAME THING" guys over here, ABR always had progression.

this band is just so averagecore

"Leveler was (progressive) metal with core elements"
uhhhhhhhh

" If the new record will have enough breakdowns to be pure metalcore, the record will be fine for me"
uhhhhhhhh

psyched for this

Reading some of the pro-ABR comments hurts my heartballs...

this will be just as boring as the rest of their discog.

"Reading some of the pro-ABR comments hurts my heartballs..."

The feeling is mutual.

Lol people arguing over their albums. Messengers shits all over their last two, period.

Messengers shits all over their last two, period.
(2)

Constellations is their high point. I just hope it isn't staying that way. They're too young and definitely too talented to have already done their best work.

messengers is kinda shitty

Messengers is generic Metalcore with a ton more energy than we usually get. I like the album a lot but the follow up definitely has better songwriting.

Messengers is their best. Will check this out when it's released. It's either gonna rule or fail miserably.

Truth of a Liar is still the best song they've ever written

Messengers is okay but there's hardly any variation at all especially with the breakdowns and melodies. Band needs to start exploring different keys and modes, this d minor melodic metalcore shit gets old quick.

I guarantee the haters haven't listened to a single ABR song. If hey did they would know it's not generic in the slightest.

i've listened to their last two albums and they are most certainly pretty generic

they just happen to be pretty good at using the formula to their advantage

I've never come across someone who uses the term "hater" that isn't a complete fucking retard

Leveler was pretty good. though too many songs turned out to be filler after a couple of listens. I hope this one will be "Constellations" standards

Alright ready for more of the same.

Oh no wait...

“This new record will push the boundaries of our genre more than we ever have before,” : like it actually takes that much to push their boundaries. They recorded 4 albums of the same stuff, yay for album number n.5!

I want to see another Constellations. That one was their best album.

did nobody listen to Sleddin Hill? That shit was excellent. forget everything on Leveler and remember Frosty the Snowman (metalcore breakdown edition)

Yeah Sleddin Hill was pretty great. Based on that, the instrumentation should be in solid shape for this new record.

[3]

Gonna suck

I hate the production on every album they've ever done besides their christmas album

^What's wrong with it on Constellations?

Thrill Seeker is great, Messengers is legendary, Constellations is awesome, Leveler is pretty good but kinda forgettable.

ABR are by no means whatsoever a generic band. God.

Thrill Seeker is still the best thing they've put out imo

Consumer IS one of their best songs. But thats not saying much, cus like 75% of their songs are some of the best ever made.

Yup. Best album.

never even listened to leveler

to edgy for that

band was always good

Fun fact: the college I graduated from is also about 10 minutes away from where they're recording. I know Grant and have
been acquainted with Carson, and they're really good dudes. They know what they're doing, so it should be a great album.

They're still towards the top of the metalcore food chain and they ain't sellin' out. I think this album will just put them higher.

never even listened to leveler

to edgy for that

Too edgy for grammar as well?

"Messengers shits all over their last two, period."

Seeing as how Messengers is far and away their worst, most generic, most obscenely breakdown-infested album, I'm having a hard time following this train of thought.

Truth of a Liar, Redemption, The Balance, and Composure are all pretty great. Everything else from Messengers isn't bad, just forgettable imo.

"Seeing as how Messengers is far and away their worst, most generic, most obscenely breakdown-infested album, I'm having a hard time following this train of thought. "

Messengers and Thrill Seeker are pretty equal as far as masking bad songwriting with breakdowns

Messengers rules hard because it's fast and raw as fuck. Yeah there's a lot of breakdowns, but it's produced perfectly. Constellations is great but Sucof (forgive me if I spelled his name wrong) muffled the shit out of their sound and to this day pisses me off.

A lot of songs on Messengers are fun to play on guitar but that's about it

Messengers is produced like shit. Overly loud shit.

That's why I love it. Better than the polished, toned down sound on their other ones

Leveler was so boring

Leveler got old fast but Carpe Diem is incredible.

Messengers is the single most unbearable production to me.


Obviously not counting albums produced for like a dollar. And black metal

Yeah it sounds like pure ass

scrambles was produced on something like $50 and it sounds perfect


jeff rosenstock is god i think

To each his own but I love it

Their most well produced album is the Christmas album in my opinion. I didn't mind the production on Messengers but I didn't like it, but I can say the same for the other albums, I agree that they do sound way too muffled and nothing really shines through. I have higher hopes for this release.

Messengers does have pretty bad production. Still, it had fantastic songs.

"Messengers and Thrill Seeker are pretty equal as far as masking bad songwriting with breakdowns"

Agreed, but I prefer the production on Thrill Seeker, and it has The Seventh Trumpet.

"This new record will push the boundaries of our genre"

Oh god no, they are going to copy BTBAM again and make a polka-core album.

Idk, I'm gunning for an ABR post-metal album. Like, an album full of songs like Carpe Diem and Meridian.

They'd better not, ABR isn't Isis or Rosetta.

It'd be better than an album that's basically Back Burner x12

Good point. I retract my statement.

They're recording a new album!! No way

/sarcasm

'Agreed, but I prefer the production on Thrill Seeker'

- Thrill Seeker basically had no production. Some mics in my basement will bring a better sound. Anyway, great record too. Way more progressive back then, but an other shouter on top of that..

I would actually like if they did more Meridian-type songs
that + the random Latin breaks on Leveler could be very interesting
probably not gonna happen though

Messengers will always rule imo. Jake has such a raw and distinguished vocal style. And am I the only one who finds Carpe Diem not that great?

"It's full of odd metered rhythms and breakdowns, unexpected twists and turns, and some of our most technical riffing to date. Each of us have parts that make our heads spin and we have had to practice like crazy to get some of this stuff together."

I'm positive this is what they said about Leveler, word for word

"And am I the only one who finds Carpe Diem not that great?"

It's pretty good, but not great. Overrated track imo too.

Lol yeah i think i recall them saying something of that sort about Leveler. That said, i'm still waiting for something among the lines of their first three albums!

Sweet

I've only heard messengers I need to check out constellations eventually

should slay

"I've never come across someone who uses the term "hater" that isn't a complete fucking retard"

lol so true.

hi auber :D

hi whoever you are :D

"I've never come across someone who uses the term "hater" that isn't a complete fucking retard"

I wouldn't say that. That's also what normal folks say in a few, not many situations, in which the allegedly "hater" takes them to a boiling point.

My two cents on a pretty much dead discussion. Haha