Pretty big news, especially with Dimitri being the main feature. These will go very, very fast.

So cool, hope we get another album

And their best lineup? And that 23rd date, holy crap

loving these crazy .*core reunion shows

I gotta be one of the biggest DEP fans out there, but this feels a little like legacy-band karaoke. Maybe if they could have convinced Chris Pennie to return? Idk

And Car Bomb with them?! I hate that I have to miss this.

I bought my ticket, going just to say I went. wonder who’ll be on second guitar?

Don’t see why it wouldn’t just be Kevin, but I think they probably would’ve name dropped him. Maybe it’ll be a surprise.

And uh, odds that this turns into a full blown tour? I really wanna see this but I just can’t make a trip to NYC happen now.

Makes sense, given how much tension there seemed to be between Ben and Greg by the end. Wouldn’t be surprised if this became a full time thing.

Reformed dillinger would be cool but seems like a dream at this point. Time will tell. Have fun everyone that can go

No Greg? fucking lame

Ben and Greg hate each other, not surprised

they're obviously gonna play all of calculating infinity but has it been explicitly stated they're playing it "front-to-back"??? feel like it'd be kinda awkward to play 43% burnt anywhere besides last... especially if this is restricted to just dimitri songs. would prob make for a better set if they mixed up the songs a bit but maybe that's just me

also, calculating infinity + under the running board only adds up to like 40 minutes of actual songs. i'm sure they'll play a song or two from the very very first ep... but i think chances are they'll play some greg songs with dimitri on vocals. how else would they fill a reunion headline set, not to mention making it worthwhile for all the people driving and flying in from who knows where to see this? and i'm sure liam and billy would prob want to play some songs they actually had a hand in writing (though i guess if greg wasn't a "real" member they prob aren't either lmao). sure calculating infinity is a classic but dillinger's appeal and legacy far surpasses just that album.

I haven't seen any details on how exactly the set is going to play out, so it's really anybody's guess at this present juncture. Would have to imagine they'd crank out some of the later hits, in which case it'd be interesting to hear Dimitri's take on them.

"in which case it'd be interesting to hear Dimitri's take on them."

I don't think I've heard any evidence that Dimitri could do Greg's clean singing. That was a hefty factor that he brought to the band upon his arrival.

Funny to be living on an age where Dimitri is DEP's last frontman.

i mean theyd probably just play the songs without cleans? lol

That would be tasteless asf imo

could def see dimitri nailing panasonic and sunshine (the majority of miss machine really), fix your face (think dimitri has performed this with them before), good neighbor, prancer, when i lost my bet...

would also bet money mike patton shows up to play some irony songs one of the nights like he did for the farewell shows

*the ones that dont have cleans in them already

can now see how that wording may have been confusing lol

No I mean I don’t think that they should be performing Greg songs at all.

The split with Dimitri was amicable, so Greg playing his songs with the band makes sense. Greg obviously wanted to do a reunion, and Ben threw massive amounts of shade at him and then like a month later they start doing this. It would be tasteless to perform any Greg songs without him imo.

"could def see dimitri nailing panasonic and sunshine (the majority of miss machine really), fix your face (think dimitri has performed this with them before), good neighbor, prancer, when i lost my bet..."

Sure thing... but only choosing Greg-fronted/written sings that don't feature cleans becomes conspicuous, and draws attention to limitations.

But... whatever... I'm sure they'll make a good amount of money off it, and would be fun enough to see.

its a very "damned if you do / damned if you don't" situation

"Sure thing... but only choosing Greg-fronted/written sings that don't feature cleans becomes conspicuous, and draws attention to limitations."

i mean they could easily play stuff like farewell mona lisa and milk lizard and the crowd would be more than happy to carry the choruses for dimitri lol. i feel like that's far more respectful to the audience than doing reunion shows pretending 90% of the bands discography doesn't exist. i mean, again, calculating infinity is a classic album, no doubt, but how many people buying tickets to these shows were actually into them prior to greg joining? is it even half? a quarter?

"...and Ben threw massive amounts of shade at him and then like a month later they start doing this. It would be tasteless to perform any Greg songs without him imo."

TBH, their once pristine legacy has been on shaky ground for a while now... I don't think this reunion (of sorts) will help matters much in that regard.

"i mean they could easily play stuff like farewell mona lisa and milk lizard and the crowd would be more than happy to carry the choruses for dimitri lol"

Lol. Yeah, good will and hyped crowd may carry this very middle-aged sweat-fest.

No Greg? No Dillinger

Rowhaus coming thru with a good ass take

had to get one in before the end of the year lol

No Greg. No Dillinger. Agreed.

i wish i didnt live on the wrong continent. they're some good supporting acts too.

No Greg. No Dillinger. Agreed.

DISAGREED you shall not defeat us doublepost

plebs be mad band ain't performing any of them emo weeb tracks off dissociation lmao

Salad band.

Pika eat my ass

Dissociation (and literally every Greg album) has multiple songs that go just as hard as anything on Calculating Infinity

Legacy bullshit, go see Better Lovers instead

they'll probs do a few non-DEP covers im sure, whenever i saw them they had 1 or 2 in the setlist

“Legacy bullshit, go see Better Lovers instead”

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I’d rather see Better Lovers fs but I’d definitely be checking this out if they toured for it

'Pika eat my ass'

it's a date

Surprised they didn't tap Brian for these gigs.

^ As in Brian Benoit...? Had danage to his hand. That's why he was forced to leave the band in the first place.

Surprised there are so many people in here with the “No Greg, No Dillinger” mindset, especially considering the band had multiple releases before Greg ever joined (AND he seems kind of hard to work with, to put it mildly). The band existed before Greg and now it’ll exist after.

Brian Benoit played with them at the final shows, totally not out of the question for him to join in for this too.

^ Could guest on the odd song, I suppose. I'd guess he wouldn't have the hand stamina for a full show, but...I don't know...

was it ever said how benoit got nerve damage? judging by live videos i always just assumed it was years of him spazzing out on guitar lol but never saw that said explicitly

Autoimmune condition caused Benoit’s injury, I believe.

bro Greg performed on 5 out of 6 albums, played hundreds if not thousands of shows with the band, and was the lead vocalist for the majority of the bands life. it’s not like Ben released a bunch of albums and then he joined up.

It’s literally like if Ben and Nate left Converge or if Cory left Norma Jean.

Sure they’re not founding members but they’re integral to their bands’ sound at this point.

I’m just not sure it’s that big a step when Dmitri helped write and performed on what is widely considered to be their breakthrough record, as well as a genre defining classic. It’s not as though Ben is hiring Blaze Bayley to sing (though I would love to hear that)

"Autoimmune condition caused Benoit’s injury, I believe"

ah okay. that sucks

Yeah I don’t completely disagree. Them doing anniversary shows is whatever. They made a crazy influential album, get your bag.

But people are talking about performing songs from Greg era records and to me that would be disrespectful asf

Greg literally performed 43% Burnt like every night of his career with the band. Was that disrespectful? 💀

I answered that earlier.

Dimitri was still friendly with the band, the band also didn’t break up. There’s a huge amount of difference between Greg doing Dimitri and Patton songs with Dillinger, and Dimitri and literally the rest of Dillinger doing Greg’s songs.

Honestly I’m not sure I have any real sympathy for him. Even if he wasn’t known to be erratic and hard to work with, the fact that Rymer and Wilson are willing to participate in a reunion without him probably speaks to more about the band dynamic than will ever be said publicly.

Got a ticket, fuck yeh :D

Still bummed I missed Botch / Cave-In / Converge.

I don't get what this has to do with Brooklyn Vegan or why that website is so popular

This news is both lame and cool in equal measure

no pennie?

"I don't get what this has to do with Brooklyn Vegan or why that website is so popular"

If I were to guess, I'd say that DEP has had a general association with animal-cenric bodies over the years (PETA, for example) and Ben runs an animal sanctuary. It seems like a mutually beneficial fit.

"no pennie?"

Not surprised. That was the first major falling out, before Ben and Greg.

"the fact that Rymer and Wilson are willing to participate in a reunion without him probably speaks to more about the band dynamic than will ever be said publicly."

Liam and Greg are publicly still very much buds... I think it's a direct clash of personalities between singer and guitarist (as it was between guitarist and drummer, referred to above). Regardless of how allegedly difficult Greg is to work with, I wouldn't doubt that Ben would be a handful too. Has big control freak vibes over this band... definitely sees it as HIS entity.

"Honestly I’m not sure I have any real sympathy for him. Even if he wasn’t known to be erratic and hard to work with, the fact that Rymer and Wilson are willing to participate in a reunion without him probably speaks to more about the band dynamic than will ever be said publicly."

i know greg being a headcase is kind of a meme at this point, but i find it hard to believe he's actually hard to work with when he's in like half a dozen bands now, many of which with people with higher profiles than his own.

also not sure rymer and wilson doing these shows without greg says literally anything about the band dynamic??? like why would they not be there lol? especially considering wilson (while he didn't actually play on calc) joined right after it dropped and prob performed these songs live as many times as ben did.

and lastly dimitri joined greg on stage numerous times i highly doubt greg would be mad at dimitri performing his songs (if they end up doing that). not like they got some random dude with no connection to dillinger

Pretty cool for CI fans, shows will probably rip hard. Not surprised about Greg and Chris not being invited to participate, Ben has been pretty vocal about his dislike of Greg since the second they broke up, and he slammed Chris publicly for a while when he left for Coheed as well, making little jabs about how Gil Sharone was gonna be a star and in drum clinics and magazines and Chris could've had all that lol... dude is mega petty, clearly difficult to work with, and acts like the most jilted ex-gf whenever somebody leaves, it definitely isn't just Greg being a manchild

“I don't get what this has to do with Brooklyn Vegan or why that website is so popular”

look into it then, you’re just asking the wind. brooklyn vegan and revolver share a lot of bs and sell records, they also hosted a lot of interviews so I don’t see why not they can’t be a platform for stuff like this

If they’re only performing CI, then it makes more sense to have Dmitri on vox anyway

Pretty interesting to revisit this article:

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/drugs-death-chaos-contradiction-inside-dillingers-one-us-killer

seems like they are just different people and that's fine.

“If they’re only performing CI, then it makes more sense to have Dmitri on vox anyway”

I mean that doesn’t bother me at all. Dude was a huge part of one of the most influential metal records of all time. Probably didn’t make a ton of money off of it, here’s a chance for easy cash. I just don’t like the idea of them performing Greg material.

And they should get Pennie, and that’s coming from someone who likes Billy a lot more.

who knows maybe they may do the Patton material, I don’t see anyone thinking of that

I would literally kill to see them play that EP live with Mike Patton.

really regret not going to any of those final shows

"who knows maybe they may do the Patton material, I don’t see anyone thinking of that"

For the same reasons I mentioned above, if I were to have doubts Dimitri's range could stretch to a great portion of Greg's material, I'd think it would miraculous if he could do any of Patton's.

I don’t think they would mind about the range, just them playing the songs would have people amped up

does anybody have the songs Ben released with Dimitri on Patreon a few years ago?

resale tickets going for $150 rn lmao

Of course they are

Cocksuckers

fuck me i would kill for this

Dimitri is awesome and I have the utmost respect for his singing and what they accomplished with Calculating Infinity, but Greg is Dillinger Escape Plan tbh

Now that I think about it, it's kind of weird to imagine Calculating Infinity with one guitar.
They panned the guitars left and right on CI so I already know it doesn't sound full without it.

Also, it's just a one-time thing, so I'm down to see Dmitri do whatever. Play the whole damn discography for all I care.

I simply can't imagine Dimitri singing Farewell, Mona Lisa lmao, but it should be interesting regardless

"Dimitri is awesome and I have the utmost respect for his singing and what they accomplished with Calculating Infinity, but Greg is Dillinger Escape Plan tbh"

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i do not agree with that take

i atually do not really like greg much tbh

“Now that I think about it, it's kind of weird to imagine Calculating Infinity with one guitar.
They panned the guitars left and right on CI so I already know it doesn't sound full without it.”
You can run two amps quite easily, whether via an ABY box, or with an emulator. Don’t know what Ben’s rig is these days but this is barely an issue on the technical side. Most of CI has guitars doing unison playing from memory anyway.

I agree with other comments that Greg really brought out the best in this band. His vocal style allowed them do so many things, not just melodic, but songs like Limerent Death are really elevated by his vocals in a way that is so rare in music.

Better Lovers was ok but Greg and Ben were a match made in heaven, and despite the personal dislike they both seem aware of it. In interviews I've read with Greg the way he talks about Ben there is clearly a lot of respect. I think they are just so different, with Ben being sober and very much rooted in the familiarity of family life while Greg is nailing porn stars doing hard drugs.

Of all the post Dillinger projects my favorite has been Greg's last solo album.

Holy fuck that lineup is tasty

@butkuiss nahhh calculating infinity absolutely has two guitars playing two different things the majority of the run time.

even disregarding the parts where there are two different guitars playing distinctly different parts... so much of the band's sound is based on two guitars playing the same riff or chord or lead a half step off from each other or 6ths etc to create dissonance between them, sounds that are pretty much impossible to recreate with one guitar. (and ben does not seem like the kind of guy who would use playback and/or program an axe-fx to that degree).

not to say they can't pull off a great performance with just one guitar (and it absolutely would not prevent me from attending this) but it certainly won't sound exactly like the album... which i think is a good thing. when converge play jane doe and glassjaw play eyewtkas and w&t with one guitar its like a totally new experience.

Converge playing Jane Doe tracks with one guitar was exactly what I was gonna bring up. Off the dome, Phoenix in Flight is really the only track that I think is straight up impossible to do with one guitar.