Neither of these singles have bored me as much as most of Afterburner. It's been on repeat for some time now. Jackpot Juicer could be a real comeback for them. I think I hear a bit of Mothership influence.

Inb4 the spirit

not hearing much MS
this song sounds like it was ripped straight from Afterburner (mostly on tilly's end), essentially Strawberry's Wake part 2 but i like this far more. The Mess chorus is such a slapper and guitar has a DBM2 like quality for all his parts

well.. at least Mess sounds as good as ever

"in b4 the spirit"

i was almost the second comment but i refrained from posting!!

i will reiitereate what i've said in other threads: i really like this song, but i think it makes it glaringly obvious that if there's anyone who is running DGD's sound into the ground, it is Will and not Tilian.

Mess is unbearable now. The music on this track isn't close to interesting enough to drown out all the fucking cringe lyrics

yeah this has Artificial Selection / Afterburner vibes, but far better than almost everything on AB. as far as singles go, this is the first one I have liked in quite a while.

"The music on this track isn't close to interesting enough to drown out all the fucking cringe lyrics"

That is legit his entire schtick.

Kick out Tillian and bring back Johnny for DBM III

Song rules

already was one of the worst bands in the world and then:

Ball Cupping, Make You Stare
Of Course, All This Sh!t Isn't Fair
(I Don't Care)
I'm Cumming Everywhere
Of Course, All This Sh!t Isn't Fair
(I Don't Care)

I too come to Dance Gavin Dance for serious lyrics, they've always been about serious lyrics

Shut your ignorant ass up lol

ik the "bring jonny back for dbm3" happens in every thread but uh jonny is being hit w some felony charges rn for some bad shit so nooo fucking thanks

Sounds like everything else they've ever made

"Kick out Tillian and bring back Johnny for DBM III"

You must find him under some bridge nearly OD'd first.

song is pretty good. mess pops off (heh)

Good song

Sounds like more of ArtSel and AB which I am just not super interested. Will definitely check out the full (way too long) album regardless.

Listened to Instant Gratification yesterday to remind myself how much more I used to get out of these guys

It really gave you

Instant gratification

they need to stop layering tilian's vocals

I like the song, but I do miss each album having a distinct sound. The last 3 or 4 have all sounded very much the same

"Shut your ignorant ass up lol"

luv u steakyboi. but yeah, these two songs are already better than all AB tracks combined fuk u

Getting real tired of this band

"they need to stop layering tilian's vocals"

yeah I don't even like tilian's vocals that much, but it's made even worse how overproduced they sound.

jonny & kurts vocals sounded so much more crisp and natural

I had no idea until recently that the drummer writes all of the lyrics.

Storm just out here spreading lies

Okay Colton we get it you don't like this band. Fuck off

"I had no idea until recently that the drummer writes all of the lyrics"

insane if true!

People with 5 iq complaining about DGD lyrics being not serious is the funniest shit ever.

I'm fairly certain the tapping riff in the beginning of the song is a rip from I Just Got This Symphony Goin'

This fuckin rules

Colton I envy your naiveness

"People with 5 iq complaining about DGD lyrics being not serious is the funniest shit ever." [2]

Feel like these newer albums would be more diverse and interesting if Will didn't have to personally carry 15 bands made up of DGD rejects. Hard to put out interesting and diverse material when you gotta churn out 70 billion riffs a week to sustain all of your friend's careers.

There's honestly probably some truth to that

Nice IG joke sparty

“ they need to stop layering tilian's vocals” [100]

It’s not as bad here but on their other single Synergy there are parts where it is almost cartoonish in sound. He doesn’t need 5 vocal tracks layered together. The “desperate for some motivation” line on Synergy legit made me cringe with how bad it sounds.

Monotone Culprit is spot on.

lyrics on death star and happiness were nice n dark

'i will reiitereate what i've said in other threads: i really like this song, but i think it makes it glaringly obvious that if there's anyone who is running DGD's sound into the ground, it is Will and not Tilian.'

i feel like a lot of their songs blend together in a way they didnt use to

ive said it so much, but i cant tell a single album after kurt apart from another

"Storm just out here spreading lies"

I swear will said that in an interview i watched recently but yea could be lies

yeh i get that. acceptance speech and instant gratification i remember sounding unique enough. after that everything really started to meld together for me.

why is the album 18 tracks long tho

album is shaping up to be quite good

"People with 5 iq complaining about DGD lyrics being not serious is the funniest shit ever."

To be fair you have to have a pretty high iq to appreciate DGD

I think the constant lineup changes kept the band on their toes and they still had something to prove. Their newer music is more popular than like 90% of their old shit so they're doing something right it seems.

Also Jonny is likely never going to be in a band again much less dgd. Dude needed to do a 180 like a decade ago and at this point through everything he's done? I'm not counting on seeing him again in any major ways. At least Kurt is still out there.

Also what monotone said, will spreads himself too thin.

next album they will write a different song

Wonder what the "Secret Band" esque song is gonna be on this one. My money is on Polka Dot Dobbins

as bad as the clean vocals can sound i agree its pretty much will's fault

Will gave it all to LP2
papa swan's been tired ever since

nah but the riffing in this song is really sick for the heavy parts and really meh for the tilian parts. how did that happen

i remember tilly saying him and jon wrote lyrics mostly together for afterburner and were doing it mostly separate beforehand so yeah

also Tilly has some stinker lines for sure but his lyrics are fine imo lol

It's textbook DGD. Jon Mess is getting better and better. The layering of Mess and Andrew at the start is great. Mess has always had ridiculous lyrics, imagine caring about his lyrical content. They've never taken themselves too seriously...

Just because they don't take themselves seriously doesn't mean people can't criticize the awful lyrics. I've heard bands who don't take them selves serious and still make lyrics at least bearable. I will also never understand the love for Jon Mess, nothing about him at all sounds that fantastic

Idk I swear people who go out of their way to dislike DGD just hate fun

I love fun. that's why I go out of my way to dislike DGD, it's fun

This was pretty soild

You guys need to start blessing this mess or I’ll troll u all until u die or leave Sputnik.

Agree with FearThyEvil. Sure, they've never been too serious with lyrics, but I think you can agree that there used to be at least a little bit of substance and cleverness to them. Since.. I think Instant Gratification, it seems like Jon Mess realised he could just write whatever crap and call it a day. It's hard to decide whose lyrics are worse at this point, Tilian's or Jon's. Also is it me or does the intro riff (left guitar) straight up sound like it was lifted from I Just Got This Symphony Goin' by The Fall of Troy?

"Also is it me or does the intro riff (left guitar) straight up sound like it was lifted from I Just Got This Symphony Goin' by The Fall of Troy?"

I legit said the exact same thing earlier itt

What is wrong with you

^ fucked up comment man, mess is awesome

Jesus dude, what the hell.

band is good but the production on Tillian is as bad as ever. Since Jonny left they're the most boring live band i have ever seen, its clear its not the same creative spirit behind it that put out Happiness or DBM but that's ok. get the bag fellas, RIP Tim

I got so burnt out on DGD when Afterburner dropped, I've loved this band for 10 years now but the pace in which they put out new music means their albums don't get enough time to marinate properly. Luckily both this track and Synergy has me excited again, hoping it'll be on the same level as Mothership.

"Just because they don't take themselves seriously doesn't mean people can't criticize the awful lyrics. I've heard bands who don't take them selves serious and still make lyrics at least bearable. I will also never understand the love for Jon Mess, nothing about him at all sounds that fantastic"


i'm not going to say every mess lyric has some hidden meaning or is secretively genius, but i don't believe people think or investigate them as much as they should. he definitely has throw away lines but there is good percentage that make complete sense in the context of the overall picture he's trying to paint.

Yeah spirit is right

I just looked up the lyrics and surely this isn’t right

Ball Cupping, Make You Stare
Of Course, All This Sh!t Isn't Fair
(I Don't Care)
I'm Cumming Everywhere
Of Course, All This Sh!t Isn't Fair
(I Don't Care)

[Hook: Jon Mess, Andrew Wells]
Pop Off, I Took The Top Off
You Took The Vintage Authentic
And Made It Knock Off
Then You Add It To Your Recipe
It's Not H-E-L-P-I-N-G S-H-I-T




Read more at: https://www.lyricsroll.com/pop-off-lyrics-dance-gavin-dance.html

woah careful storm the fun police are gonna come for you

"I've loved this band for 10 years now but the pace in which they put out new music means their albums don't get enough time to marinate properly."

based. honestly since Tillian joined, the band has kinda felt like a corporation just pushing out the new model every year or two. there are some good tunes spread across the Tillian era but overall it's plastic as fuck compared to the first 4 albums

This band is everything I love and hate about Post-Hardcore served up on a broken plate, and I don't know how to feel about it. It's pretty fun though. Just need to tone down on the shouty vocal segments, always find the transition in and out of them a bit jarring.

need to tone down on the shouty vocal segments [2]

lol post-hardcore

Colton you don't know the first thing about anything in this genre. Like I get you do this for the funny haha memes but it's so dumb you constantly have to make sure your voice is heard whenever this band is brought up. You don't like them, so you've said this whole broad genre is bad. You're an ignorant troll with nothing to offer in any of these conversations, and I don't understand how you can find it fun to always spout nonsense

STEAKY WIT DA ALL DA SMOKE

am I getting too old for DGD???
I found them late in the game and fell in love with the musicianship. Loved Tillian from Tides of Man so him joining was neato and I liked the first couple albums he was on.

But it's so copy + paste and predictable at this point, and with each new release, I cringe a little more at what I'm hearing. I think what's happening is that I'm just growing off of Tillian's voice and pop melodies. Jon sounds great as usual and I can put aside the cringe lyrics because they're hard to discern without reading them. But those poppy vocal melodies...man they're starting to sound the same at a rate higher than ever before.

These days I have to take each release, give it a full listen, and then cherry pick the good songs I'll listen to moving forward, and I wish that weren't the case. Guess it's a me thing.
I know these guys are like a Black Dahlia Murder in terms of perfecting a sound and then improving it while not iterating much but jeeeeeeze I'd like to see them grow more as a band and "mature" the sound, without sounding like too much of a snob.

Gottem

Tell him Steak

just ignore Colton. dude never brings anything remotely interesting to conversations and embodies the worst parts of sputnik troll culture

i’m literally saying the same things as storm and that other guy and you guys start losing your shit. didn’t realize this is the DGD circlejerk thread and people who don’t like them aren’t allowed to have an opinion. stop taking yourselves so seriously you look like dorks. meanwhile a user like Pika can 1 every album in genres he doesn’t like and doesn’t even listen to and you guys don’t say anything because he’s part of the metalcore dorks club smh

this band is practically begging to be made fun of with their music style and lyrics, I bet the band members wouldn’t get nearly as worked up about it as you guys

post-hardcore fans gotta be the most sensitive fanbase, surpassing even rap fans

who the f are you even talking to?

I listen to artists from pretty much every genre except djent and country wtf you on about

nice Corea rating pika

shit Poppin Off in this thread

I'm talking specifically to you because you don't know anything about "enter_prefix_here"core and are so bullheaded about your disdain about it, it's all you talk about. "HEY GUYS THIS SUCKS" just gets irritating to see every single time you comment. You are clearly never gonna try anything that might remotely be up your alley if it has a core alignment or a person doing anything resembling a yell so why insert yourself in that space? Nobody cares what you have to say man

Thank you Corm, love me some skramz with post influences

"Nobody cares what you have to say man"

that's 100% of this user base, big homie

pika I’m just saying you troll 1 so many albums but nobody here will say anything about that because you like the same weird screamo shit as them. ppl pretending they’re mad cause I’m an ignorant troll, they’re just mad I don’t like their favourite screamo band, as if metal/metalcore/post hardcore fanbases haven’t been actively opposed to the existence of other genres since this site existed

and all my ratings and opinions are genuine and I’m not forbidden from voicing them just because you don’t agree. when metalheads 1 every new pop album because the existence of pop music offends them you guys are real quiet

ban ratings

i never even left negative comments when i first made this account but everyone roasted my taste and i never got offended because it’s an internet forum and it’s all in good fun, but when I troll some metal or screamo shit it’s the end of the fuckin world lol

I have like four or five troll 1s and they are all for metal releases

I rate solely based on enjoyment so if I actively hate the listening experience, chances are I'll 1 or 1.5 the album in question

For that same reason, I have a shit ton of fives - if I find a record super engaging, I'll easily five it even after 2 or 3 listens

lol why do you keep using the word screamo

“based. honestly since Tillian joined, the band has kinda felt like a corporation just pushing out the new model every year or two. there are some good tunes spread across the Tillian era but overall it's plastic as fuck compared to the first 4 albums”

I can’t get behind that sentiment in regards to AS - Mothership but the two albums after (as much as I love ArSe) I do kind of agree. I really like the two new songs from JJ so far, but we will have to see how the album as whole turns out.

And pretty sure I 1'd more albums steak rated a 4 or above than anyone on sput, but he is never hostile towards me, because I don't go around lumping all the -core subgenres together because some of them barely have anything in common other than the two guitarists one bassist one vocalist one drummer mayber keyboard player thing

They definitely do feel more like business than a band at this point though.

sure but you clearly seek out albums you know you won’t like and then swing your hard throbbing 1 around in those threads to troll people. and that’s fine but when I do it I’m an ignorant troll and a shit user etc. just saying there’s a big double standard with screamo ppl

i wasn’t even lumping subgenres together I was hating on DGD specifically

I don't seek out any particular releases to 1 though - I just check whatever's in best new music lol

I mean so far the only surefire way for me to know if I'll hate something or not is to check whether ian b or what's his face with like 4 slipknot fives rates that something high or not

ooo eee this reminds me of the sputnik argument threads from 15 years ago lmao

Good times

pika not even you believe that

btw I love the term “sputnik troll culture” lmao. man’s tryna make this into a legit societal issue

sigh you're free to believe what you think but it really is that simple haha

"For that same reason, I have a shit ton of fives - if I find a record super engaging, I'll easily five it even after 2 or 3 listens"

This is the way.

I don't particularly like DGD but I'm not about to desperately try to trigger people who like them like a sad little dweeb

Im about done with my Fix An Album 2 : Afterburner list. I actually think i pulled it off

Thread is Poppin Off! you could say...

alright I'm leaving

you can say I'm trying to trigger people who like DGD like a sad little dweeb but you can't say I'm doing it desperately cause the shit is way too easy

you know what, you guys can pick one of my 4.5s or 5s and go troll in the review thread for it. I'll let you do it. go on. let me have it

"and that’s fine but when I do it I’m an ignorant troll and a shit user etc"

This is the playground "well he threw dirt first" argument. Just because some other person is an annoying troll doesn't mean it's cool and awesome for you to do it. It's a universal waste of time in every context.

If someone else is trolling like you do in threads for bands you like, call them out. That would be actually helpful. Doing this isn't helpful.

I wouldn't call them out because it's a fucking internet forum and joking around and talking shit is part of it, I would never get genuinely upset about that lmao

Love seeing the heated discussion over a bad that's clearly just having the most fun making music as possible. It's a video with Mess as a rat-person king, Tilian seducing a guard with his sexy hips, and the rest of the band fights each other in fruit outfits. I don't think this was ever supposed to be that serious

exactly

Being an asshole online is "joking around", but only when I do it - Colton, probably

you're reachin for them grapes monotone. I already said ppl troll my taste all the time and I don't care I just throw it back at ppl. this is how it should be

also if you read the comments I wrote about DGD in this thread, and then read the comments about how I'm an ignorant troll and never contribute anything etc etc it's kinda crazy that ppl can say I'm the asshole here

colton this is embarrassing, maybe just log off for a while? i genuinely mean this in a nice way

post hardcore (22%) is embarrassing

"Joined 02-17-20" is embarrassing

been here longer than you

I have a 311 album 5’d

Tell that to my 02-14-11 join date. Been here two years and think you know Sputnik lol

i think they mean the amount of comments you have in such a short period colton

not very bright are you

my only ban regret was losing my OG join date to hold over peoples heads tbh

i think it’s quite clear that’s not what he meant Mort but good try

1 comment off a thousand nomos

Nomos could have made it to 1k a lot quicker if he spent all day every day fouling up every comment section on this site.

struggling to understand what is happening here but wanted you all to know Death Star is the second worst DGD album after Afterburner.

nomos’ lack of commitment is not my problem

A couple of bangers and a lot of angst have been propping up Death Star for more than a decade.

you make a good point. i do like it a lot still (like 4-4.5 range) ((which I also guess hows my unrepentant fanboyism that an album rated that high would be second lowest)) i just think it's jon's weakest which kind of brings it down for compared to their other records

Honestly don't think Jon could even be considered good until Tilian era. Early DGD is held down by production and Jon.

First Stint Jon, and Second Stint Jon might as well be different people.

There’s a lot of hurt feelings in here

DBMII is still my favourite Jon, not sure how he pulled that sound off but I miss it.

"Honestly don't think Jon could even be considered good until Tilian era. Early DGD is held down by production and Jon."

Hmmm, gotta disagree with this. He sounds ferocious on their demo, and still has that great rasp on DBMI. I (obviously) think he sounds weak on DS, but I think DBMII is really where he came into his own and finally found his technique. I actually kind of wish he still used that higher pitch he used on DMBII as compared to his stuff Acceptance Speech and onward, (which is still top tier).

yeah dude I think I prefer his higher pitched sound, like it should be grating but instead sounds unique and fits with the instrumentation super well

we did it boys, new account has 1k comments, so many people to thank, I couldn't have done it without this site, you guys, and making impulsive low-effort lower-case comments in every thread I read (or a rambling personal story about drugs), which is not nearly enough looking at everyone else's post count

Post Hardcore (12%)

Can't wait for the next 2.0 Tyler review

Lol join dates being whipped out in a dgd news articles

i am not reviewing this nonsesne

I will review it then.

Based storm

Sowing is giving treb the Marc Cuban Dirk Nowitzki retirement plan so if treb wants his one yearly review to be DGD then I’m sure he will.

m/

Some people in thread just don’t know how to have fun

"You don't understand, bands need to reinvent the wheel every album and take themselves as seriously as possible" - half the mfs in this thread

Band is fun, and that's enough for me. Just a group of dudes that like making music, why do they offend so many of you guys? This place really reeks of negativity lately, more than usual.

Yeah

okay song

They have some fun tunes, but I haven't actually been like "Yeah DGD made a good album" since Happiness. Tillian is really not a good vocalist, I'd honestly just rather have them make their math-y coreness with Jon Mess as the singular vox at this point.

IG is the last album from them that I revisit in full

I didn't know that they're just a group of dudes who like making music. I would like to take back all my previous comments. sorry guys

@shadow [2]

Here's hoping for some new Secret Band in the near future.

“based. honestly since Tillian joined, the band has kinda felt like a corporation just pushing out the new model every year or two. there are some good tunes spread across the Tillian era but overall it's plastic as fuck compared to the first 4 albums” [2]

also i love their videos tbh. for as much as i be hating (sorry y'all, thanks for putting up with me..), their videos are always so great

>I'd honestly just rather have them make their math-y coreness with Jon Mess as the singular vox at this point.

[2]

tilly fans ! unite !

(except not for this song, he's def kinda ass on this song but it's not his voice, it's his writing)

don't worry enemies, i imagine the next secret band will be before the next next dgd album maybe!

"Tillian is really not a good vocalist"
I think this is 100% subjective, I can see why people don't like his vocals, but the man has pipes and can belt. Mothership has incredible vocals - Inspire the Liars, Man of the Year, Here comes the Winner... all have top tier moments for sure. I feel he gets sugar coated with production too much nowadays. Mothership had a great balance of grit and gloss.

Saying you don’t like Tilians vocals is understandable

Claiming he’s a bad vocalist is just a silly statement.

What he pulls of is really impressive

“Band is fun, and that's enough for me. Just a group of dudes that like making music, why do they offend so many of you guys?”

It’s a weird take to tell everyone to turn off Quality Control and just pretend that DGD’s entire catalog is homogeneous. “Dudes that like making music” describes every band with men in it ever, so I’m not sure what the point of that statement is.

The toxicity in this thread popped off huh?

it's a DGD song alright

I can't take any post seriously after they use the word cringe.

"yeah dude I think I prefer his higher pitched sound, like it should be grating but instead sounds unique and fits with the instrumentation super well"

Higher pitched Jon fills the empty space left by lower pitched bluesy Johnny, and lower pitched Jon fills the empty space left by higher pitched Tilian.

Think this is also the reason a lot of the older Tree City remakes sound super off to me. The vocalists sort of swap roles with cleans being higher and screams being lower relatively.

The best Tree City covers of older DGD are the ones where Tilian actually makes an effort to bring his voice down a few octaves.

cringe

absolutely insane

i will never participate in a DGD news post again