That is really fucking sad

Jesus. Terrible

No age restrictions apparently which I find insane

https://twitter.com/SquirtReynoIds/status/1456880436848832516?fbclid=IwAR0CV3bDoO6KTLMxmWzrW0i2Z3wUy7EmhSuR5C096Tan1D4gTFsFqed6Dyo

https://twitter.com/dexterl07617514/status/1456933595956662272?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1rguIdt08kg8LqVChyZPAnF7Lc5myG33sQ64cH-BlysDiSS6jSpnFJLWE

Fuc*ing disgusting

I think the hip hop community has a lot to learn from scenes like punk when it comes to moshing (which is relatively new to the mainstream of the genre especially its aggressivity) but some of the stuff I hear about I wonder how deep that applies to the concert organisers as well as fans and artists

R.I.P.

Wow that is fucked up. RIP to the people who passed away.

blaming the ground people walk on for the actions of a few out of 50,000 people, which have had nothing to do with you nor have effected you in any way other than writing a comment.

Edit: Lol at the comment change Divergent Thinking. Quite the namesake there.

I saw videos of the festival crew basically ingoring the cries from the audience to stop the show and the EMT guys having to physically fight their way to the injured. Absolute horror show.

The Woodstock 99 of this generation

LOL people are great fucking love 'em

What an absolutely sickening situation. I read a twitter story from an ICU nurse who was there and attempting to help the medical staff. It seemed like half the medics there didn't know how to do basic CPR. She saw somebody get loaded onto a spinal board and they rolled the girl over onto her face. Nobody was doing pulse checks and people were doing CPR on others who were still breathing while people were turning blue right next to them. Just a total fucking shit-show.

“ No age restrictions apparently which I find insane”

He didn’t put his face in every McDonalds happy meal to have those children not buy a concert ticket

already decided a while back I’ll never go to a big festival like that and this definitely solidifies it. seems like they reduce people to their most animalistic tendencies. there is blame to be placed on pretty much everyone involved here. to the fans for storming the gates and rushing in by the thousands. security personnel for not acting and getting hostile toward people for asking for help. Travis for not stopping the show when shit was clearly going bad

I had friends who went to this. Absolutely dreadful incident.

Ja Rule would’ve never let this happen

A lot of people there didn't even have tickets, they bum rushed gates to get in

Pretty disgusting, but then again, so is Travis Scott so wtf else should i expect?

This is really insane, RIP to the people who were just hoping to have a good time and ended up dying

An inaccuracy in the article though, the 10-year old didn’t die but they were injured.

travis taking hard Ls today

Very unfortunate. Feel bad for those who lost their lives in such a tragic and preventable fashion.

Guess the rule of picking people up when they go down in the pit hasn't made it to the mainstream community yet

Terrible, terrible news, seems like the organizers crammed the place to squiz some extra dollars...

probably a factor but there were people breaking down the gates and storming in by the hundreds. I saw a video of it yesterday and thought nothing of it then woke up and saw this

almost happened at the carti concert too before it got cancelled a couple of weeks back, morons charging security to get in

People suck so much.

hard for me to be that hard on them when so many of them are kids. but I'm sure there were a lot of adults there too who rank among the stupidest people on this planet. there are reports and videos of people asking others for help and being yelled at, threatened, bood, etc

>Pretty disgusting, but then again, so is Travis Scott so wtf else should i expect?

Well, the same thing happened with Pearl Jam here at the Roskilde Festival.
(Thankfully I was off watching Underworld.)

what the fuck are 10 year olds doing at Travis Scott concerts jfc

bleak

Holy shit that's awful.

wow the name of his new song is super morbid after hearing this...

Say goodbye to Travis career!!

this will be forgotten next week

^2

this won't be forgotten for a long time but it won't have any big long lasting implications for Travis's career

^basically

so awful

man this is so sad

Wow, enjoy the waning moments of humanity, we done tipped.

RIPs

Travis deleted a tweet from May where he said he wants people to storm the gates, just like they did last night. what an idiot

"Guess the rule of picking people up when they go down in the pit hasn't made it to the mainstream community yet" [2]

A genuine RIP to all the victims at this point... but I especially agree with this notion

This is horrifying

Is he trying to be the next Fred Durst

The Electric Sun Music Festival of this generation

reminds me of rokskilde, 9 people died just from the chaos/disorganization

you would think 20 years later we would learn from these things

“already decided a while back I’ll never go to a big festival like that and this definitely solidifies”

Good call, you’d get obliterated

How fucking senseless can people be?
Concerts are great. Its immense fun to go straight monkey mode and mosh and headbang and w/e to your hearts content. But there are established boundaries that anyone with a soul should understand.

"I need the Heimlich" is really ringing true today.

Damn that’s crazy. Rip to the people who lost their lives. I guess this turned me off from going to any major concert events.

the videos getting posted of this are crazy. don’t mean to pin blame but it looks pretty bad for the event staff.

yeah watching some of those videos gave me a really unsettling feeling

also travis was being a fucking idiot during it all

Judge the validity of the account yourselves, but if this is true holy shit.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CV7NkBiLf3L/?utm_medium=copy_link

Stuff like this doesn't usually affect me all that much, but what a horrible way to die.

Some people are really fucking dumb. I always avoid this type of situations now. Was in a similar thing when I was a kid and it made me hate huge crowds. There is always a group of dumb headless dummys that start this shit. Makes me sick.

bro this shit is wild. RIP, such a scary way to die. i heard one person was like 14..

"Guess the rule of picking people up when they go down in the pit hasn't made it to the mainstream community yet" [3]

i had to explain the HxC show culture of helping anyone who gets hurt to my friends when we talked about this. fucking nuts man...

how terrible, my condolences

Very sad. Rip to those poor kids

‘The Woodstock 99 of this generation‘
nah that concert is infamous for the absurd amount of sexual assault more than the riots, shitty venue, and the couple of deaths etc
but yes this is really tragic

Whole think looks like a massive shit show from videos.

>picking people up when they go down

This is only possible when people can move and breathe though. Read the insta story - helping people was not an option.

Travis is gonna receive a lot of backlash for this, I find it hard to believe he heard screams as people have been saying and carried on the show regardless.

Thoughts go out to the families and those closest to the victims, the last thing anyone should have to worry about when attending a show is their own mortality.

a big eternal fuck you to the guy dancing on the ambulance

From his previous history of inciting violence and ‘rage’ during shows, this was inevitable.

What a fucking waste of life.

“helping people was not an option.” [2]

One of my very first concerts was Andrew WK at a small show in 2003. It was immediately crush-like from the get-go. No pit, no gaps between people, shoulder to shoulder going 15feet backwards from the stage. You would not be able to pick anyone up. Nearly passed out.

Prayers to the victims and families

https://twitter.com/theNDExperience/status/1457008185320091649

read here this tweet thread goes into what really happened.

the fuck did i just read

there's a neat video circulating now of linkin park stopping one of their shows for some people who fell in the crowd. that's how you do it.

Americano posting the real news

dude who was at the fest replying in that tweet thread said as soon as travis' set started it felt like he was in hell...

not an accident btw.

intentional.

https://twitter.com/AccelerateNRx/status/1457016613019033600

https://twitter.com/MovingP73543198/status/1457049507632406528

INTENTIONAL SACRIFICE OF CHILDREN.

NO ACCIDENT.

remember at the big day out festival back in the day limp bizkit caused a riot basically, and a young girl was killed. at the same festival earlier that day At the Drive In were playing and Cedric Bixler was taunting the crowd the entire time and telling them to stop slam dancing and acting stupid and to take care of one another. ''Let's be nice to each other and let's dance, instead of beating the shit out of each other.'' Well the Australians didn't like what he said very much and one of them even ended up throwing something at him, (think it was a shoe) and he dodged it and said ''you missed'' haha

Imagine dying only for some American to use you for religious propaganda

*gets trampled by retards*

the signs!!

lmao @ the idiots in here saying people are at fault for not helping them up. You've never been in a tight crowd like this and it shows

[2]

@Eons, I was at that BDO, and saw both of their sets.
ATDI, played 4 songs and walked off the stage, after trying to get the audience to calm down, Cedric kept calling everyone sheep, and Baaaaaing at us. There was more to the story though, as you can see here..
https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/drive-reflect-bdo-walk-off-couldve-handled-better/

The Limp Bizkit mosh, was fucked, I was about 10 rows from the front and was just battling to breathe. It was just a massive crush from back to front.
https://www.abc.net.au/doublej/music-reads/features/how-the-big-day-out-lost-its-innocence/11606956
They erected the D barricades the following year to keep the amount up front in the pit to a minimum and disperse some of the crushing. It has worked well, the only downside is if you want to get close to the front, you need to line up a band or 2 before hand to get let into the pit.

weird scenes at Astroworld

Guess i didnt realize Houston was also Travis Scott's hometown. this is so many layers of fucked man.

Demands for his head seem to be increasing

Seems so. Apparently this isn’t the first time some dumb shit happened at one of his concerts.

travis scott seems more and more like an asshole by the day

ritual sacrifice

Saw the headline on my internet homepage and assumed it was a shooting. Shocking that it was actually crushings. RIP to all of the victims. This is very sad news

The in person videos coming out are horrific. What a fucking tragedy.

What’s extra awful is that the (now deleted) promo video showed people bum rushing the gate.
It’s also pretty shitty when he’s straight up staring at a guy getting carried out but doesn’t stop singing (okay stage lights are bright, maybe he couldn’t tell, maybe he though they just passed out from dehydration).

Then there’s a fucking ambulance and crowd members jump on top and start dancing.

Every video I’ve seen coming out from this is absolutely awful.

I don’t expect a performer to perform crowd control on their own but there’s is absolutely no way he didn’t begin to realize that something was seriously wrong at one point.

"stage lights are bright, maybe he couldn’t tell"

no actually i am quite certain he could tell, because this isnt the first time something like this has happened at one of his shows; he's been charged for something very similar to this very incident before and he pled guilty to it iirc

There was also a bunch of people trying to get him and the cameramen to stop the performance.

Yeah but he refused

"It’s also pretty shitty when he’s straight up staring at a guy getting carried out but doesn’t stop singing"
He stopped mid song to call some assistance for that guy that passed out, as for why he kept singing while staring at him as he got carried out, beats me I'm guessing he just did it to stall the crowd.

"ritual sacrifice"

drain of visages, slave to consume archaic butchery?

Some lawyers finna try to break the Kylie corporate shield for these wrongful death suits

Apparently 3 people were injured at astroworld 2019 in a stampede too

>no actually i am quite certain he could tell, because this isnt the first time something like this has happened at one of his shows; he's been charged for something very similar to this very incident before and he pled guilty to it iirc

FYI this is the worst comment. 'Quite certain', 'something like this', 'very similar', 'iirc'.
Those are all loser phrases you should stay away from. No wonder people dig the ritual sacrifice stuff.

The (now deleted) trailer for the festival beings by showing people storming security gates.

While I don't think they were deliberately creating a dangerous situation, they were clearly encouraging this behaviour.

This, coupled with cutting huge corners on water provisions + security presence caused this.

I think being careless, instigating reckless behaviour and just straight up greed and lack of interest in human lives are way worse than satanism, there's some sort of respect and ritualism in that shit, you give these fuckheads too much credit

Welcome to religion man

This is horrific. I remember going to see Enter Shikari (with a much smaller crowd) and experiencing crowd crush there. One of the scariest moments in my life. It's almost like you can't touch the floor, and forced to move in a wave. Everyone was falling on top of each other, I had somebody fall onto my head with their full body weight. It was disgusting and put me off from any shows like that. Just reading these stories makes me sick. You should never lose a life going to a show.

Yeah that's horrid man. I've seen Mayhem live, a band people would typically imagine attracting violence and yet they had one of the more respectful crowds I've been to. They were legit throwing pigs blood into the front section and it's still not like people got so hyped that they wanted to flay each other.

"Yeah that's horrid man. I've seen Mayhem live, a band people would typically imagine attracting violence and yet they had one of the more respectful crowds I've been to. They were legit throwing pigs blood into the front section and it's still not like people got so hyped that they wanted to flay each other."

Crowd Crush has nothing to do with people being respectful or not.

ooh it's with capital letters now

they should make a game out of it

guys a fuckin munson for not stopping the show

"ooh it's with capital letters now

they should make a game out of it"

It's a german habit

Never heard any of this rapper's ("wanna be rockstar") songs but holy shit, this is tragic. No one wants to go out to enjoy live concert and end up tragically die there.

how do you crush people accidentally, like even in a large crowd, you wouldn't know someone is underneath you being smashed?

Knowing someone's under you, and being able to do anything about it, are sadly two very different things in these kinds of crowds...

i mean not to sound like an internet tough guy but like I would legit start hitting people to protect the person being crushed and make them clear away some and get the fuck away from me and the person(s) underneath. That'd really piss me off being in a situation like that.

this won't be forgotten for a long time but it won't have any big long lasting implications for Travis's career

I only wish this will start the burial of Trap and related genres.

Trap is pretty good instrumentally, but usually the rappers are just shitting all over the cool instrumental.

"i mean not to sound like an internet tough guy but like I would legit start hitting people to protect the person being crushed and make them clear away some and get the fuck away from me and the person(s) underneath. That'd really piss me off being in a situation like that."

the issue is that people were squeezed so tightly together they couldn't move. you're not getting any punches off and even if you did, people have nowhere to move to

"i mean not to sound like an internet tough guy but like I would legit start hitting people to protect the person being crushed and make them clear away some and get the fuck away from me and the person(s) underneath. That'd really piss me off being in a situation like that."

As someone who has been in a crowd like this let me tell you that you can't do shit about it.
As the crowd moves, you are unable to stay in one place....it moves you like a wave, first one direction, then another. You have no control over your position or what direction you go. It literally picks you up off your feet and takes you with it.
It's terrifying.

this guys a real narcissistic piece of shit btw, if you look more into this he almost was celebrating people being hurt. what a POS

I am struggling to see how this is his fault. This is on the organizers

From what I'm seeing, the dude has encouraged this in the past, and I believe even leading up to the festival. And then failed to stop the show when he quite clearly at least had to know people were getting hurt

we don't know if he knew that people were dying and even if he did, the majority of the blame would still fall on the organizers.

https://twitter.com/musicstruggles1/status/1457065475691712515?s=20

https://twitter.com/musicstruggles1/status/1457094599516774403?s=20

Ok that's a dumb tweet. This is still on the organizers lmao

Travis is definitely partly to blame

He definitely knew people were dying. There's a video of Dave Grohl stopping a show because of a fight, and this guy saw ambulances pulling up, unconscious bodies being crowdsurfaced out and someone being rescutitated right in front of him and thought, "the show must go on."

who tf feels the need to defend travis "fortnite" scott? fuck that guy.

If cancelling him means that this will make collateral damage to Drake. COUNT ME IN

drake should have been cancelled years ago with all the millie bobby brown shit

Drake is a pedophile, even without the MBB controversy there are videos of him hitting on underage fans at shows. Travis is an idiot, he deserves manslaughter and a dead career for this. What a twonk

There are endless droves of "the age of consent here is 17" dudebros that will NEVER allow Drake to be cancelled so yea

who has actually gotten cancelled for offending the LGBTQ community

damn norma kinda got destroyed itt

Chill out, comrades

Eff2DaP104 on that any% ban speedrun

Hate to see Norma killed after all the violence already discussed above

can we cancel Eff2DaP104 from this site for being insufferable?

we've tried cancelling skele many times but it seems there are are few more horocruxes to destroy before we're rid of him for good

Shouldnt the main performers be allowed to stop the show if they see anything going wrong? I have seen Rock and Metal shows being stopped before, just to prevent tragedies like this, so why the organization dont give that power to all main-events performers?

Because people getting crushed and injured in big concerts aint nothing new.

you’re persistent I’ve give you that

This is horrific, been in a crush only once and it was one of the most terrifying, helpless experiences of my life.

Christ Eff, imagine being such a cunt you hijack a thread about people dying.

looks like he's gotten dev'd. lol

It's like being in a rip tide except you're being suffocated

https://twitter.com/StefaniaOnABC13/status/1457835483459948544

this is just absolutely horrible

Holy fuck. Doesn't get much more traumatic than that

Reading that infuriated me.

so, i just realized i was actually in a crush once. Upon a Burning Body was playin in like 2010 and they were *heavier* than anything i listened to.

kind of passed by their area and was wrapped INTO the crowd not by choice, and waved me like, diagonal, and i ended up losing one of my moccasins

in retrospect, v thankful that i was able to get out

a big eternal fuck you to the guy dancing on the ambulance [2]

damn this the same dude who goaded a kid into stage diving from a 2 story balcony and ended up paralyzed? color me shocked

man people on twitter are dumb fucks. Why do you feel like you kinda have to vouch for your favourite shit trap artist " he did nothing wrong" when it is obvious he did all kinds of wrong. that video of him seeing the ambulance and doing abso fucking lutely nothing to stop the madness is sickening. fuck this guy, fuck people spending one second of their brainpower defending this piece of shit.

I mean, there are a lot of angles. I think the question is whether or not Travis saw people fucking dying. If so and he didn’t stop… that’s the fucked up part. But idk maybe lights are bright as fuck and they did say it was 100,000 ppl there. I couldn’t pick out a single person if I was looking out at that sea and trying to perform

Additional edit though - fuck him for literally trying to incite violence and riots at his shows. Seems like a pattern. I go to heavy metal shows and at least there’s a culture in place to help the hurt

There's no way you can't see people dying down on the front of the stage FROM UP ON STAGE

I saw Brand New once at a venue with like 20K in the audience, and there was some drunk dickhead being way too aggressive towards the back, and Lacey stopped the song, called him out, and didn't resume until security had carried him out. I get that there's a huge difference between 20K and the size of this festival, but there's no way that he and security couldn't notice the people desperately pleading to stop the show or the ambulance personel. The dude is a top-tier piece of shit, and the same for his crew.

Yeah, not buying the bright lights argument. I've played a lot of shows and several have been on big stages to big crowds. Never been blinded by lights. I can always clearly see the audience. It wouldn't exactly be comfortable to perform if stage lights were bright enough to blind you from the audience lol

"There's no way you can't see people dying down on the front of the stage FROM UP ON STAGE"

There's absolutely no way you could tell that people are dying in a crowd of 50 thousand from the stage lmao you donk. He saw that someone passed out which happens all the time at large concerts like this.l I don't like the dudes music and know next to nothing about him but calm down your rage boner and start thinking rationally for a second.

I agree with Reefa. Even as someone who's only played fairly small shows at houses and clubs, I often have no clue what's happening in the audience. Especially if the venue has stage lights - in that case, the musicians are damn near blind up there.

Saw a video where he spit on a fan and told people to beat him up because he thought the fan tried to steal his shoe when he was crowd surfing. Guy sounds like a real turd

Bottomline is only he knows what he saw or didn't. That's on him. But you can totally see what's going on from up on stage. This wasn't a small incident, we're talking about DEAD PEOPLE and HUNDREDS injured. This represents at least a visible portion of the arena. Don't kid yourself, it's either negligence or just straight up douchery.

"the musicians are damn near blind up there."

Not in my personal experience. Granted, I haven't played to thousands upon thousands. But I've played to 1000+ on big stages with lots of stage lights

I just cannot fathom that the man was aware of a mass death event at his show and carried on as usual. Regardless of what you think about Travis on a personal level, you're suggesting he's guilty of something truly heinous, almost comically evil. I am not willing to go there based on what we know at this point.

When people are chanting "stop the show!"
When there are ambulances flashing sirens
When the crew is screaming at each other from distress
The performer has to know what's going on

We can talk about the fact that Travis could have handled the situation better, sure and I'd be with you on that but when we talk about who is responsible for 8 people dying then that's 100% the organizers fault.

I don't think Travis is responsible, but he kept the show going along with the executives and that only made things worse. I can't imagine the chaos

"It ain't no mosh pit if there no injuries" guy has curated hostile crowds for years, been charged with incite to riot for getting crowds to rush in, heard so many horror stories from his shows. Injuries, stampede. Guy is stuck in his little rock star fantasy at best, a masochist at worst

"I just cannot fathom that the man was aware of a mass death event at his show and carried on as usual. Regardless of what you think about Travis on a personal level, you're suggesting he's guilty of something truly heinous, almost comically evil. I am not willing to go there based on what we know at this point."

But we can draw conclusions based on his history that he doesn't seem to care if people get hurt at his shows and may even like it when it happens. I think at the very least he's reckless and doesn't care if people sustain serious injuries at his shows

""It ain't no mosh pit if there no injuries" guy has curated hostile crowds for years, been charged with incite to riot for getting crowds to rush in, heard so many horror stories from his shows. Injuries, stampede. Guy is stuck in his little rock star fantasy at best, a masochist at worst"

that's cute and a cool story but has nothing to do with this situation

I can't believe some of this stuff passed regulations. All ages? I know it's Texas (let alone America) but that wouldn't happen in a real country

"that's cute and a cool story but has nothing to do with this situation"

lmao how does it not

"I can't believe some of this stuff passed regulations. All ages? I know it's Texas (let alone America) but that wouldn't happen in a real country"

Isn't that pretty normal? I'm from Germany and am pretty sure that when you are under the supervision of a parent, you can go to any music festival here

I said a real country

"lmao how does it not"

People didn't die here because Travis incited rowdy mosh pits. They died because the venue was overcrowded. That's why.

A little of both. Didn't he encourage people to break into the festival and act like dumbasses?

he didn't stop the show, and he HAD to know. when these kinds of things happen, the executives and the performer are definitely informed

again, take rokskilde 2000. another festival with 50,000 attendees, people died from rushing the stage and 9 people suffocated/died. pearl jam stopped their set after 15 minutes when they were told something was happening. it wasn't the bands faut that people died, it was definitely the organizers, but they had the fuckin decency to stop their show so people could get the help they needed

the whole "this wouldn't happen at a metal show" discourse reminds me of those old RAP VS ROCK facebook groups from back in the day

man that video of him singing at the dead body is morbid af

you don't even know if that was a dead body or an unconscious one. People love talking out of their asses without having all the information

they have a sheet over their face

you would have to be seriously stupid to see a video like this and try to claim Travis didn't know what was going on https://twitter.com/heavyonitbarbie/status/1457024098308132879

he obviously knew it was chaotic to a point of being seriously dangerous and very clearly was reveling in that. guy sang off a dead body, watched ambulances drive through the crowd. he also directly encourages people, and has on multiple occasions in the past, to break in to the concert and run up to the front of the stage which is what actually caused people to die. it was from people trying to get closer, which he encourages. he was negligent to a point that he cannot claim innocence. it's like drag racing on a highway going 120mph and then claiming "I was just trying to drive fast and have fun" when you crash and kill someone

and finally, reefajones exists on this site to give whatever take will get him the most attention and does not actually believe a word that he says, don't take the bait. I'll take this L in acknowledging him this one time so the rest of you don't have to from here on out

that link takes you to a video of a girl trying to alert the cameraman, but I'm talking about the video below that one if you scroll down. if you watch that and think he's completely innocent of wrongdoing you seriously lack awareness

The incident at Roskilde massively changed how the festival grounds are constructed. It has a lot more fences and wave breakers now. And security people are very attentive.
Unfortunately no rowdiness, like crowdsurfing, is allowed anymore.

"that's cute and a cool story but has nothing to do with this situation"

lmao how does it not
[2]

lmao that twitter link proves absolutely nothing. Says a lot that this is the best you've got.

his biggest culpability is how he encourages people to not only break through the gates, but also push to get to the front as that's exactly what caused this tragedy

Reefa you dumb bro

Ya'll are a bunch of little twitter detectives that love to talk out of your ass posting little clips as if they were evidence to support your bias lmao.

it doesnt matter if it's on twitter or not, it's video evidence of the show you doorknob. i dont know how you can watch those videos and not think this could have been avoided with some intervention from Travis and in turn the organizers

imagine even liking this fuckin dummys music

First of all, just because you can hear the girl screaming for help from the cameras perspective doesn't mean that Travis could hear her from the stage where he has thousands of people screaming at him. Secondly, you are a brain-dead tard

@bigweiner I like his music and can still acknowledge how negligent and stupid he is. not hard to not be biased

"Secondly, you are a brain-dead tard"

good one!

The fault of this horrible tragedy should not be 100% on Scott, there definitely should have been better security and harm reduction on site. But mr big mac Travis actually commented about an ambulance cart in the middle of a crowd, and then told the audience to make the ground shake. He has absolutely no care for the safety of his fans in any way, and seemingly never has. It will be interesting to see how this is handled legally.

do you think satan even appreciates this kind of thing

I got squeezed in a Slipknot show once, and i got traumatized. From that moment on, i prefer to stay in the middle of the audience, instead of going upfront.

RIP to all victims, and condolences to all their families.

I know this is serious and it genuinely saddens me to read about the young people who lost their lives, but I can't get over boomers believing that Travis Scott is an actual demon and these were sacrifices for the devil

the weird thing is that it isn't even all boomers

I haven't actually seen anyone that believed that outside of some random unhinged Twitter rant

Reefa you dumb bro [2]


as someone said above, the real question is who is responsible for those 8(+?) deaths/hundreds of injured. Is it Travis for *waiting X minutes* to stop upon *Y time he saw someone hurt*? Or the venue or his management?

Legally, i could see this not falling on him and pushed on the venue. not that this isn't his fault.

There are failings at so many levels and beyond here

The important thing is to shame each other over this

Sad day for the culture

The important thing is to shame each other over this [2]

seriously, the people online saying this was some sort of "satanic ritual" are the dumbest people on the planet

The cause of the crush was letting out all the trafficked children from the furniture that the venue bought to decorate the space.

how can you give this guy the benefit of the doubt though given his own history of being a scumbag, why would anyone assume he had good intentions here, he's never had good behavior ever, through his entire career, so he doesn't deserve and hasn't earned us assuming he had good intentions/was unaware.

@porc, you see the new Bill Burr show too eh?

seriously, the people online saying this was some sort of "satanic ritual" are the dumbest people on the planet [2]

let me introduce you to flat earthers..

what the fuck is going on with these people claiming satanic stuff, i'm tired and busy so i don't want to read about it but literally what the fuck

You can safely ignore it.

delusional/disassociative bait instead of understanding the true problem of hyper capitalists cutting cost for maximum profit, leading to shit like this. Live Nation and Astroworld producers have a history of OSHA violations, not demons lmfao

^^^ hammer droooooppppped

imagine your 14 yo son is killed at a music festival and you see mentally unstable cum rags on the internet claim it was a satanic sacrifice

we're so desensitized to the reality of capitalism that the only way something like this is believable is through something so outrageous, we couldn't even begin to fathom the fact that this happened simply because of profit and a history of the rich disregarding human life

^
for sure. that shit is way more evil than a satanic ritual lol

money is the root of all evil

"we're so desensitized to the reality of capitalism that the only way something like this is believable is through something so outrageous, we couldn't even begin to fathom the fact that this happened simply because of profit and a history of the rich disregarding human life
"

fucking commies lmao

explain how they are wrong then redditman

"fucking commies lmao"

it takes 1 peak at ur charts to know ur a fucking clown who prolly didn't have the attention span to follow his art school dream

neitzsche died a virgin and so are u

criticizing capitalism = communism

just the type of nuance i expected from reefa

careful he will literally make a forum post about u

i don't even know how to do that, so, you know..

wait

the point is, its not demons people. take your psych meds.

yeah just had to ctrl + f reefa to realize this dude is the epitome of 4chan frequenter

liberals = owned

checkm8 liberals!!!!!1

I hardly even know who Reefa is but yr annoying and dumb and need to be bopped on the head with a rolled up newspaper

That's my contribution y'all have a nice thread

socialist scum = triggered check!

kevbogz for chairman of sputnik

"you don't even know if that was a dead body or an unconscious one. People love talking out of their asses without having all the information"

...as if that somehow makes it better when Travis is singing to him at that moment? Ok lol

"...as if that somehow makes it better that Travis is singing to him at that moment? Ok lol"

people pass out at concerts all the time so yeah it makes it better

I for one don't think it's really reasonable to hold Travis accountable for this after seeing the intensity with which he rubs his forehead in his apology video

LMAO. fuck dude that's good but cmon man

"people pass out at concerts all the time so yeah it makes it better"

go-go gadget non sequitor

lemme sing to this dude who just went into cardiac arrest :D

huh?? what'd I do wrong

bing chilling

I miss when like at least Gyro bluffed about having facts, Sputnik deserves a higher class of troll

continuing the show = singing to the actual body lmao the brain rot is unreal

"people pass out at concerts all the time so yeah it makes it better"

I understand where you're coming from, but for all Travis had known, the person could have been dead. If I were performing at a venue and saw someone lying unconscious in front of me, I feel like that'd be pretty alarming

youre all taking fat Ls rn for taking this bait

"
I understand where you're coming from, but for all Travis had known, the person could have been dead."

He stopped the show and called for someone to help the person didn't he? I don't think there's much more he could have done in that instance

https://i.imgur.com/YC11JtT.jpg

"He stopped the show and called for someone to help the person didn't he?"

yeah

t h i r t y s e v e n minutes after he realized somebody was unconscious

unconscious body = stop the show immediately according to some people here. Concerts would be stopped all the time in that case.

what the fuck kinda shows are u going to? lmfao

i mean if reality immitated your dystopian fantasy festival world then yeah absolutely they should be

"Travis didn't immediately jump off the stage to give mouth-to-mouth resuscitation omg what a horrible guy"

"what the fuck kinda shows are u going to? lmfao"

With any concert of that size there are going to be a couple of people who pass out just on probability alone

"With any concert of that size" that's the problem you fucking chode.

circle back to my last comments

"that's the problem you fucking chode." No that's not the problem. The problem here was overcrowding, not attendance you smooth-brained donk

LOL

that… makes no sense

"The problem here was overcrowding, not attendance you smooth-brained donk"

omfg

https://i.imgur.com/YC11JtT.jpg

overcrowding.... not attendance.....

buncha marks itt

"daddy what's a donk?"

like jabroni but less satisfying to say

truly one of the dumbest comments i’ve ever read here in nearly 12 years

Not surprising that people here can't follow simple logic lmao.

please define what u think attendance means without googling

the brain of an experimental fan on clear display

Yeeaaaah, all this was over one unconscious body... naw it was a completely tragic shitshow. If it really actually was just one unconscious body then you might have a point. But I don't know how you watch the videos and read the stories of this shit and come to the conclusion that the show should've just kept on trucking along

Anyone who found themselves in a conversation on a thread like this is taking an L

"please define what u think attendance means without googling"

Attendance = number of people


you can have 1 million people attend a concert without there being overcrowding and you can have a 100 people attend a concert with there being overcrowding. I'm talking to actual 10 year olds here

and where does this show fit in

"Anyone who found themselves in a conversation on a thread like this is taking an L"

Welcome to the conversation comrade, lol

cmon buddy ur almost there

This show was overcrowded with people not supposed to be in attendance is his point I am sure, tho we always realized that.

"you can have 1 million people attend a concert without there being overcrowding and you can have a 100 people attend a concert with there being overcrowding. I'm talking to actual 10 year olds here"

jfc how are you still not getting this, overcrowding is a completely moot point when literally everybody is surging to the stage

hold this L with a side helping of stupid juice

"and where does this show fit in"


"With any concert of that size" that's the problem you fucking chode."

nice try donk. We were talking about large concerts and the probability of people passing out just based on the attendance alone, not overcrowding. You can't even follow a simple argument. Embarrassing lmao bing chilling

“Welcome to the conversation comrade”

Thread needed a W somehow

Almost.

"Thread needed a W somehow"

You are right though, but sometimes it's fun to get involved in a shitshow thread while I'm dropping a deuce

Thread showing once again that half the people here are borderline retarded and unable to follow 5th grade logic lmao

most 5th graders would know that attendance makes up who would be “overcrowding” i think

"most 5th graders would know that attendance makes up who would be “overcrowding” i think"



pahahahah what? Are you actually stupid? Did you follow the conversation at all?

Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo Peepee poopoo

pahahahah

"unable to follow 5th grade logic lmao"

i would 10/10 have 5th grade logic when it comes to people losing their life over completely avoidable things than die on a hill formulated from a basic phil 100 argument

"i would 10/10 have 5th grade logic when it comes to people losing their life over completely avoidable things than die on a hill formulated from a basic phil 100 argument"

Thanks for admitting that you're an unreasonable child

"neitzsche died a virgin and so are u" [2]

good one

peepee but also poopoo too as well

this is so sad and crazy. that one tiktok video is so awful

Lol dude went to party at Dave and busters right after?

i actually have a degree in 5th grade logic

Dude he partied at Dave and busters after.. he’s claiming ignorance but if you had to shut your show down..? Dude is looking more and more like a huge POS

that's not just being an asshole more like sociopathic/NPD style behavior, where the person can't feel empathy for others.

Can't lie, D&B cheers me up when I'm bummed out.

lets diagnose people we don't know with mental health disorders!

Didn't expect to see anyone white knighting this fool

""I shun the laws of men, of whose flesh and blood I may be confined to - yet whose folly, that of inconsequential pride and heedless ego, is naught in my soul. Necessitating the need for transcendental knowledge, I've traversed space and time and while celestial experience was certainly gained, a flickering of that physicality bound has me lingering just behind the void. The curtain is lifted. What is henceforth dawned by light makes the spilling of surrounding darkness all the more bitter to comprehend, and I carry this burden as a crucible in humility and admiration of the rhetorical question.

^ wut

Sorry I thought this was a thread about the Astroworld incident

Why would God allow this?

Guys I found a great take:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckTravisScott/comments/qr300k/travis_scott_is_to_the_astroworld_deaths_what/

so true bestie

Should I comment in this thread?

No.

Black is the new orange

"Should I comment in this thread?"

Turn back while you still have a chance

https://preview.redd.it/nft5xgc87uy71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d3d78ffb49aac5c4d47d9296d487906000a1949d

This was the design of the venue. Seems like a death trap if you ask me. No idea how something like this gets approved on top of all the other failures that occurred

I found a better angle that really shows how poorly designed it is

https://ibb.co/xFpZmV9

The venue looks designed for a satanic ritual tbh. Inverted cross, pyramid and shit...

satanists generally have better music taste than to have anything to do with travis scott

"Guys I found a great take:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckTravisScott/comments/qr300k/travis_scott_is_to_the_astroworld_deaths_what/"

That was exactly my first thought hearing this news too. I was like damn, how can I somehow make this about Donald Trump.

Travis Scott being a republican explains everything

Travis Scott is a threat to democracy

Dave and buster's. Jesus christ

can't believe Travis Scott is actually claiming he was just unaware what was happening lmao

Every person in this thread pretending Scott couldn't see the distress is going mask off so fucking hard it's crazy

But what's your hiscore in Crowd Crush?

“I for one don't think it's really reasonable to hold Travis accountable for this after seeing the intensity with which he rubs his forehead in his apology video”
Underrated comment

the memes made with him and his forehead are great

they’re by the meat product section

damn bro, 9th person declared dead. poor fucking college girl too..

"Let's not forget Travis Scott is a known Republican: He supported George Zimmerman after the Trayvon Martin killing,"

wait what the actual fuck??? who would support something like that????

This had to become a political argument... Then the vulgar "fuck communism/capitalism" discussion and the virgin joke. Apophis please do us all a favor and press the reset button.

fuggen reddit am I right

castroworld

except where the castros were cool and good

APOPHIS
REACH DARK OFFICE

9 year old died this morning. Number ten

Fuck.

"Travis Scott has brand partnerships with Fornite, Hasbro, Mattel, General Mills, McDonalds, and Nike."

Not that it necessarily means anything in this regard, but it's still kinda nauseating.

Fuck. [2]

"This had to become a political argument... Then the vulgar "fuck communism/capitalism" discussion and the virgin joke. Apophis please do us all a favor and press the reset button."

"Joined 12-07-20"

first time huh?

Yeah that was very thin-skinned