Bruh

Please ban everyone that follows this comment

hoping this is not true

here we go

oi vey

Saw this story earlier today and winced.

As a huge Dylan fan, hoping there's nothing to this.

Fuck

you would think at least one person would have known and said something about this

oh shit

The controlling and grooming behaviour would suggest there would be more than one victim in 56yrs.
It’s either going to open a can of worms or be total bollocks.

This might seem disgusting, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of prominent artists from the 60's and 70's pulled shit like this that hasn't come to light.

Meanwhile my boys in the 80's surprisingly having the least amount of allegations when compared to everywhere else for some reason.

this sucks

Zak’s comment [2]. Cases where people do this just to one victim and quit are very rare, as it’s a deeply rooted psychosexual issue. Suspicious that it took six decades for one single accusation to arise. Dylan has been around since the 60’s but has never been the source of rumors like Spacey, Weinstein, Cosby, Marilyn Manson, and many others were before they were outed. One simply does not do this and escape rumors for 56 years. I guess we’ll see how this ynfolds but I don’t see much arising from it.

"you would think at least one person would have known and said something about this"
lol

insightful comment neeka

Well fuck this guy I guess still made a bunch of amazing albums tho

"it's so weird it was never reported"

why does that kind of comment show up in every single sex crime related thread regardless of guilt or innocence

shows a fundamental lack of understanding for how victims react or are suppressed because of other factors

because Dylan was constantly around other people and touring in 1965, and with a lot of other famous musicians with similar allegations there have been rumours about it for a long time or it was kind of an open secret. it’s just weird that nobody has heard anything about this until now. that doesn’t mean he’s innocent or guilty, if anything it could speak to how it was normalized back then and people covered for him or didn’t take issue with it

I'm not jumping to any conclusions. Sputnik people are the worst about that shit. Wait for the evidence, if there is any, before you write the man off. Also, why wait nearly 60 years to say something about it? Would've been a lot easier to prove like 50 years ago, but whatever.

"Also, why wait nearly 60 years to say something about it? Would've been a lot easier to prove like 50 years ago, but whatever." maybe because the dynamic 50 years ago was a hell of a lot more skewed in the direction of the accused to shoot it down? Why'd it take forever for Bill Cosby to get locked up? Same deal there.

its not true because he makes great music. unless it is true then idk.

here we go

what rockstar from the 60s/70s didn't diddle a teenager?

"what rockstar from the 60s/70s didn't diddle a teenager?"

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probably a whole lot of them? that take is not insightful or wise

alice cooper

This thread will be an abomination

Dorothy "Dot" Wiggin of the Shaggs

hey oomfie

can we not say “diddle” btw that’s a shitty euphemism for such a serious issue

"Dorothy "Dot" Wiggin of the Shaggs"

Marvin Gaye?

If Bill Cosby was so guilty then why was he released? Better to wait for evidence but of course everyone is guilty until proven innocent to zoomers.

"Marvin Gaye?"

rockstar?

boomer-music star

He was released because the justice system failed us, dude stop being a rape apologist there's many people that were let off the hook despite being obviously guilty

probably not a genuine question but Cosby was released due to some bullshit regarding the statute of limitations/some promise that a judge made. I can't remember the exact details tbh but I know it had nothing to do with the actual validity of the evidence against him

Cosby was also accused by many many different women and people knew about it for a long time prior to charges actually being filed

innocent until i say so.

"If Bill Cosby was so guilty then why was he released?"

bruh did you even google what happened with the case?

"He was released because the justice system failed us"

It was less the system failed us, and more the people in the system didn't understand the system enough to do their job competently. That DA has to be the all-time dumbest fucking turd in courtroom history. He should have immediately done his research before pushing the case and he could then have worked around it, but he jumped the gun and got caught with his pants sagging low.

I mean yeah fair point but the fact that people like him can allow someone like Cosby to be released despite a mountain of evidence because of a mistake doesn't exactly disprove the argument that the system is broken

what rockstar from the 60s/70s didn't diddle a teenager?

well she technically wasn’t even a teen yet lol

That system however was designed in order to give incentive for others to confess. That deal, whether we like it or not, caused Cosby to completely admit his guilt. It has it's benefits. Whether it works as intended is up to the people who work within the system.

Worth noting, and again I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, that Dylan's whereabouts during April and May of 1965 are well documented and he was not in New York. He was touring in the north west US from March until late April and then went to Europe, and was not in New York until mid June. This doesn't necessarily prove anything because we're talking about 56 years ago. The person making the allegations could be 100% telling the truth and just misremembered the dates. But it's odd that she names those specific months when it's documented that he wasn't even in New York at that time.

yes dylan's whereabouts are more well documented than like any other musician's

the claim is he drugged and molested her over a six-week period, i'm really having trouble fitting that into his schedule

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1427386653941936128.html

This thread is actually tame and somewhat evolved compared to the same NPR thread about this. The olds are gonna riot on Twitter.

while it's vile that this came to light, i am absolutely not surprised. after all..
"what rockstar from the 60s/70s didn't diddle a teenager?"

yeaa bit of an open secret at this point isnt it...

man the only genre left unscathed by this shit is prog rock. the best genre is most wholesome! love it

it would definitely suck if this was true, i wouldnt say its an "open secret" since theres never been any dylan weirdness before. open secrets are jimmy page, ted nugent, gary glitter (now a closed secret), woody allen

^ that and the timeline not lining up gives me faith but this still fuckin sucks and ruined my day. at worst this is true and Bob is a complete piece of shit, at best nothing can be proved and his reputation is still somewhat tarnished regardless

yeah the dates don't line up at all

I agree

But the “what rockstar didn’t bone a kid?” arguement is the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen

don dylan

Rape or no, Bob Dylan is a huge figure compared to chodes like the botdf guy or even Jesse lacey. I dont see anything happening with just one 56 year old accusation.

dude always wrote boring ass music tbf

We're all very proud of you for not liking music made by a guy who did morally questionable stuff btw nice Swans 5

I mean we don't know if he did anything or not, but if he did there's nothing questionable about it morally

Yeah actually, there are plenty of public figures who havent been accused of rape. Its not that there are "entitled karens" falsely accusing people of rape left and right. Its that this has been a problem and we're only seeing how bad it is now.

Now go be a fuckwit somewhere else.

yeah that mentally is the dumbest shit. pretty much assuming anybody famous or in power would rape someone just because they could. ridiculous shit

"I mean we don't know if he did anything or not, but if he did there's nothing questionable about it morally"

Yeah sorry poor choice of words on my part, not trying to imply literal pedophilia is a moral gray area or anything

More so generally speaking about artists who get accused of doing Bad Things whether that's actual criminal behavior or just garden variety assholery

what did swans do

There's different degrees of criminal behavior though. If Bob Dylan was caught embezzling money or something people wouldn't really give a shit.

Michael Gira has been accused of rape in the past

pretty retarded i mean 1965 seriously, unproveable waste of time

This is why i laugh when dipshits say theyre doing it for money. A very tiny percentage of rape trials ever see a conviction.

And it might be a waste of time to you, but maybe this person just feels the need to get their story out there. If thats what they want then its not a waste of time to them. And it might cause more people to come forward.

I would imagine they'll have a hard time proving this case. I'm not a Dylan fan, but the fact this accusation is so old is kinda suspicious. Definitely need more evidence.

Re:anything about "but it's such an old case", from 1970 until 2019 the statute of limitation prevented the plaintiff from taking legal action against Dylan, if you factor in the time it takes to seek legal counsel and put together a case this is pretty much the soonest she could have sued as a legal adult, yknow cause she was 12 years old in '65

deathconscious has been buttraped, confirmed.

nah but really gyro sounds like some 4chan guy wtf is going on here lol

Covid diagnosis is so boring, lets go back to rape accusations. When will humans learn?

damn grungil thats deep.

His voice has certainly been assaulting my ears

gyro is clearly pretending guys

ah trolling. alright cool. i hate black people! what, bro? im just prankin.

You hate black people? You should get checked

bro its just a prank!

The freewheelin’ Bob Dylan

Another side of Bob Dylan

https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/1/5/6/112156.jpg?v=1

The times they are a-changing lol

Anyone made a Bob Diddlin' joke yet?

and the correlation between making music for beatniks/weed addicts and raping children gets stronger

"If Bill Cosby was so guilty then why was he released?

Because his testimony in a prior civil case that got him charged and convicted in the criminal case was ruled inadmissible because he was apparently promised that he would not be prosecuted for the statement.

Cosby essentially confessed to a crime and got off on a technicality.

"man the only genre left unscathed by this shit is prog rock. the best genre is most wholesome!"

Don't jinx it you fuck!

But yeah it's probably mainly because women don't go to prog shows anyway.

The one unequivocal boon of prog's overwhelming sexlessness, they're too busy learning elvish and composing 20-minute keyboard solos to bother with pleasures of the flesh

Gyro: lol i said something dumb that sounds characteristic of me and then someone responded seriously. Le troll XD

awesome news, thank you for sharing - I know who I'm listening to today

"man the only genre left unscathed by this shit is prog rock. the best genre is most wholesome!"

Anything made in the 80's is somewhat safe

> anything made in the 80's is somewhat safe

thank god for that, i couldn't handle letting go of my 'thriller' cd

Some people need attention I guess? Lol. Dylan didn't rape anyone.

"man the only genre left unscathed by this shit is prog rock. the best genre is most wholesome!" [3]

>But yeah it's probably mainly because women don't go to prog shows anyway.

Hurtful!

i would like to suggest we take this time to remove Dylan from our playlists and get rid of any physical merchandise for good. just stop listening to him.

"wow Wines you're taking these allegations a bit seriously"

*me, frantically googling* ahh right yes, the uhh, allegations, certainly,

[the joke is i don't really like Bob Dylan's music except for Blood on the Tracks. we apologise for any confusion]

bob dylan raped winesburgohio?

nahh ordinarily i'm a "BELIEVE THE VICTIM/SURVIVOR" to the point of insanity dude but if the dude wasn't on the same continent at the time? it's probably unlikely. Dylan's movements have been catalogued almost pathologically via fans, including an abundance of video footage. i just don't see how it's possible

wat

tons of beautiful women at prog shows. theyre just married to the dude sitting next to them

...but remember 2 support ur local Rape Crisis equivalent if you can! they do God's work and false allegations (which these probz are) are also insanely uncommon

wines [2]

Worth noting, and again I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, that Dylan's whereabouts during April and May of 1965 are well documented and he was not in New York. He was touring in the north west US from March until late April and then went to Europe, and was not in New York until mid June. This doesn't necessarily prove anything because we're talking about 56 years ago. The person making the allegations could be 100% telling the truth and just misremembered the dates. But it's odd that she names those specific months when it's documented that he wasn't even in New York at that time. [2]

/thread

Dude was literally touring in UK during the time it said he was supposedly in NY grooming a little girl, why is anyone giving this claim credence at all

i mean lbr this was 1965 the guy probably had a 16 y/o escort that he picked up in london that summer

bc we should give claims of serious crimes credence.

"Hurtful!"
But (mostly) true. xD

"*me, frantically googling* ahh right yes, the uhh, allegations, certainly,"
I lol'd. I'm not going to be dramatic and claim that Dylan's singing raped my ears, but I will say that any time I've ever had to listen to his voice it has been non-consensual.

>"Hurtful!"
>But (mostly) true. xD

(Mumbling) I didn't say it wasn't true. : (

wines [3]

k

Yeah this uhhh seems like a delayed response even for what it is. I understand a lot of victims have a time of it coming forward due to a plethora of reasons-fear of public disbelief, threats from the accused, etc. But a 56 year gap is difficult to not approach with skepticism considering the extremity of the claim. But hey wilder shit has unfortunately happened so I suppose we shall see

‘tons of beautiful women at prog shows, they’re just married to the dude sitting next to them’

I mean at least ‘golf widows’ don’t actually get dragged to the golf club, these sound like poor creatures

Dylan620 / where do I go for a username change?

Pedo- sex market is still quite prominent, and now we have a rising "social movement" of pedophiles on social media.

almost 50 years, tooks so long to say that xD, people are weird entities

So we started with Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris and now it’s Bowie, Zeppelin and Dylan?

Pedo rock increasing in quality

Truly ahead of their time. RYM genre tag, when?

And I just want to echo the sentiments of anyone who said that all although any accusations should be taken seriously/not dismissed out of hand - the timeline doesn't seem to add up. It's also odd that nothing has come out before given how many 'open secrets' there are amongst music stars, and also the severity of this particular accusation. That doesn't necessarily make this completely untrue (dates could just be inaccurate I guess), but it would just make it all the more shocking if it ended up being genuine.

"and now we have a rising "social movement" of pedophiles on social media."

what's this in reference to?

^An alleged movement to recognize pedophilia as a legitimate sexual orientation. Basically conservatives freaking about some post on reddit and claiming that there's an actual social movement to legitimise pedophilia.

Mfs should realize there's always a twitter post and a reddit thread for something, doesn't make it a real issue.

similarly, the more rabid a person is about being anti-gay marriage or anti-gay in general (conservatives and southerners) the more closeted they are and will almost invariably be found at a massive gay orgy down the line

'An alleged movement to recognize pedophilia as a legitimate sexual orientation'

Hmm, I don't know about it being an 'orientation' as I lack the knowledge, but it would be helpful for law-abiding paedophiles to engage openly with other sectors of society without fear of being vilified or ostracisation. Of course it'd have to be a controlled environment, give them access to researchers/support networks to help a) combat the causes of criminal paedophilia, b) rehabilitate these individuals.

I agree, and I don't think most rational people have a problem with people who have those kinds of deviant tendencies getting psychological/psychiatric treatment in order to prevent acts of pedophilia. I think the problem is the irrational response that somehow this is merely part of a movement that wants to "normalize" pedophilia.

"An alleged movement to recognize pedophilia as a legitimate sexual orientation. Basically conservatives freaking about some post on reddit and claiming that there's an actual social movement to legitimise pedophilia."

Look up MAP's. It's a thing.

"Look up MAP's. It's a thing."

I looked it up and this is what came up, which is more or less in line with what Demon and I said. There's no "social movement".

http://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps

Believe women

"Hmm, I don't know about it being an 'orientation' as I lack the knowledge, but it would be helpful for law-abiding paedophiles to engage openly with other sectors of society without fear of being vilified or ostracisation. Of course it'd have to be a controlled environment, give them access to researchers/support networks to help a) combat the causes of criminal paedophilia, b) rehabilitate these individuals."

Conversion therapy? lmao

pretty weird that they lump people who are attracted to 15 year olds in the same category as people who are attracted to 19 year olds tbh. Like I dated a 19 year old when I was 20 but obviously wouldn't date a fuckin 15 year old

well there are 15 year old who look older than some 19 year olds and 19 year olds who look younger than 15 year olds

prob best to be safe esp if you're over 21

even more if you're a celebrity - Gylfi Sigurðsson stung in the 15 year old prostitute scandal this year...why not just not sleep with teenagers?

Best not to sleep with anyone. It's the only way to be sure. AKA the prog technique. xD

Age of consent should be 25

"what rockstar from the 60s/70s didn't diddle a teenager?"

oof


"Worth noting, and again I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, that Dylan's whereabouts during April and May of 1965 are well documented and he was not in New York. He was touring in the north west US from March until late April and then went to Europe, and was not in New York until mid June. This doesn't necessarily prove anything because we're talking about 56 years ago. The person making the allegations could be 100% telling the truth and just misremembered the dates. But it's odd that she names those specific months when it's documented that he wasn't even in New York at that time."

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yes dylan's whereabouts are more well documented than like any other musician's

the claim is he drugged and molested her over a six-week period, i'm really having trouble fitting that into his schedule

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1427386653941936128.html

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Someone should phone Dylan's attorney. Sputnik says he's not guilty. Case closed

i am so glad he didn't do it. phew.

The power of the internet

Together we are strong
No one can tell us we're wrong

"I looked it up and this is what came up, which is more or less in line with what Demon and I said. There's no "social movement".

http://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps"

oh theres a movement alright... unfortunately. they tend to stick to twitter generally though so if you dont use that you may not encounter them thankfully

fuck

i don't see how they can actually file this when there is so much proof he wasn't even there

Yo, I'm not downplaying the severity of shit like this but at the same time, how the fuck can someone have a case this old based on "memory". If the girl was 12 and it happened decades ago... for all we know she was traumatized and just pegged Bob Dylan because perhaps she heard his music, saw his picture, etc. I'm not victim shaming.. just blows my mind that cases like this keep popping up. Why now? What is the motivation?

"Why now? What is the motivation?"

#Metoo?

Someone should phone Dylan's attorney. Sputnik says he's not guilty. Case closed

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either way I cannot see this progressing any further. it's a 56-year-old case with no evidence, and dates that do not correlate with eachother.

^message dylan on fb and tell him u agree w/ him

one day someone is going to accuse harambe of sex assault

Hey Bob,

Just wanted to say that I'm with you 100%, there's no way you did this. I mean, I wasn't born until after you did Saved and Shot of Love, but I still forgive you for those.

Thanks,
Parallels

as for the 'he was touring' blah blah, dude had a private jet and could fly wherever. there's enough documented entertainer fuckery that this lines up with other icons of the era.

i just messaged him. his response was:

"ehh yeouha u'iiueuif huehua asdfuhh eh hiouhasfaashe, yknow"

"dear harambe

I know that chick said you stuck a banana in her ass without any warning or lube, but I want you to know that I know you wouldn't have done anything like that without her permission. You are an inspiration to all of us.

-Fabius"

"Why now? What is the motivation?"

How is this so hard for people to figure out.

Someone told me deathconscious harassed them sexually

Yeah raping my ears

what will happen to this young, promising upstart's career? can you even prosecute a living corpse?

"Believe women"
lol.

"what will happen to this young, promising upstart's career? can you even prosecute a living corpse?"

Dude just sold his catalogue for $300 Million, so yeah it might be pretty worthwhile to file a civil lawsuit and claim compensatory damages like the plaintiff is doing here.

The dates should disqualify all of this

@Sitar - living corpses need a lot of aloe and formaldehyde to keep upright. not morally upright, but you know...

The cost of air conditioning must be ridiculous as well

err'body thinking with their dick more than they ever thunk before

"living corpses need a lot of aloe and formaldehyde to keep upright. not morally upright, but you know..."

IF this is a frivolous and vexatious lawsuit and not genuine then the 67 year old woman living in Greenwich, CT might be suing Dylan for her own aloe and formaldehyde needs. Nothing in Greenwich is cheap.

Lol sonoma

'as for the 'he was touring' blah blah, dude had a private jet and could fly wherever.'

we're entering supervillain territory

And you know there's a joke somewhere


but you don't know what it is

do you


mister jones

ok that might be the best comment ive ever posted

Don't believe it.

"Don't believe it."

Yeah I don't believe it either...

Parallels has made way better comments than that one!

how long do I have to wait before bumping Dylan threads without looking like a piece of shit

Until a verdict is truly in I'd say you're good

sweet

I'm gonna sue jesus for hanging out with a whore by a well

is that an I Shall Be Free lyric

interesting article about the lead attorney for Dylan's accuser https://nypost.com/2013/08/20/manhattan-gop-leader-isaacs-caught-on-fbi-tape-entertaining-30g-bribe-from-agent-pol-whines-i-have-never-been-charged/

colton you are on one!

your username is pheromone

im waiting to change it to phero

or pheromo

Sad but it wouldn't be that rare.