wow. there goes their future. not surprised he is/was a piece of shit, but yeah his voice is the only thing that made this band good

Damn that's wild, Tyler seemed like one of the last people to do something like this. Honestly they should just be an instrumental pop jazz trio now since all of them have the chops for it

Lol rip to prob my biggest guilty pleasure.

These allegations must have been pretty damning for them to add that “we believe survivors” part. Feel like you don’t throw something like that into an official statement unless it is 100% true.

Are we ready to admit that at least the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene has existed purely as a vehicle for sexual predators?

Im more surprised this isn’t a hobblepot news submission

"Are we ready to admit that at least the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene has existed purely as a vehicle for sexual predators?"
These shitty bands and their frontmen are dropping like flies.

I am curious what the band do without Tyler. I think the rest of the band are talented enough to salvage this if they really want to. Just amp up the metal/jazz sound and they could make a decent go of it. They'll likely never be spectacular, but I don't think losing the Justin Timberlake wannabe is the end of them necessarily.

As for the reasons the band shitcanned him? I wish I could say I was surprised, but given the other accusations that have come out about other singers in the scene I'm not surprised in the slightest. Huge shame.

Bring back Michael and throw Hance Alligood in there too

Yeah I feel like they easily have the talent to go instrumental... but they won’t because they’d pretty much be starting from scratch and ditching their existing fanbase who were mostly their for Tyler.

These shitty bands and their frontmen are dropping like flies. [x1,000,000]

A lot of people are going to need Issues tissues.

"the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene" Not even real post-hardcore, just scene bullshit.

Bring back Michael [2]

My .5 review is validated

guess you could say he caused some issues

man these people have issues

ba dum tis

not even really post-hardcore, just scene bullshit [2]

maybe there's like 50 well-known metalcore/post hardcore bands also with allegations i'm not aware of, but shit like this seems spread out all over many music genres from what I've seen

reset the clock

AGAIN

“Im more surprised this isn’t a hobblepot news submission“

what am i, the Chris Hansen of sputnik?

Now they just become Polyphia II: Electric Boogaloo

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

" Polyphia II: Electric Boogaloo"

Polyphia knows how to play though

I forgot actually this band is liked on sputnik :/ yikes

oh man who would have fucking thought emo bands were sleezebags. Jesus christ I saw half Escape the Fate once making out with girls that couldn't have been possibly more than 14 lol

wut

Who's next

"you read what I typed"

what band are you in

"oh man who would have fucking thought emo bands were sleezebags."
saw this coming from a mile away, Tyler is an ass hat

Bring back Michael [3]

Tyler was a clown anyways..maybe they'll get heavy again

The age of woman interested in guys in bands, believe it or not, actually does extend past their 18th birthdays. Come on, you fucking creeps!

"I am the first musician of all time that has not raped"

bruh, how do you have Daughters at a 1?

To all those saying "go instrumental," look at what happened to Tides of Man post Tilian. They put out some amazing music that didn't sell for shit.

issues should've stopped before they even began

Still sucks to see the "wait for the facts people" still out there.

Too bad this news didn't come out during the Woe is Me vs. Issues debacle.

something something lame issues pun

“To all those saying "go instrumental," look at what happened to Tides of Man post Tilian. They put out some amazing music that didn't sell for shit.”

Yeah that’s what I’m saying... their existing fanbase wouldn’t give a fuck about them anymore... and all the people in the Polyphia/Covet/whatever niche wouldn’t care either because they used to make the exact kinda music they love to navalgaze at.

I’d bet on them adopting a new name at this point, no matter what route they go.

Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes, lol. Sucks if this is actually true (mainly because for the victim's sake) but also because how the rest of the band deserves better than having all of their fans turn their backs on them because they're TC fangirls. AJ, Sky & Josh are killer musicians and one can only assume they know more than we do considering they wasted no time parting ways with Tyler. Dude might have been a wierdo in other ways too that only they know.

i don't think there is anything wrong with waiting for the facts in this situation, we know nothing about this whole thing, yes rape is awful and survivors should be supported but you can't go screaming rapist until you've at least reported it to the police

Element shut up

Counterpoint: we've seen bands like ADTR and Pvris wait around for months and months not even acknowledging allegations against some of their least important members (tho I'm aware that pvris dude is no longer in the band anymore).

Meanwhile, Issues kicks out Tyler Carter, who is easily the bands biggest selling point for 90% of their fanbase and (like his vocals or not) is essentially irreplaceable, literally out of nowhere. According to the twitter replies, it seems like nobody even knew these allegations existed until he was kicked. Nobody was pressuring them to do this.

I get wanting to "wait for the facts" but I feel like we already have them in this situation.

i dont really listen to issues for tyler, i listen for them fatass grooves

Seems like this Tyler guy has issues.

band are shit, tyler's a cunt, literally couldn't care less if they fade into the cesspit of Rise's back catalogue.

thoughts with the survivors.

Why is it that shitty edgelord music and rape accusations go hand in hand?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

can’t fucking believe that fans are actually asking for them to replace Tyler with Jonny fucking Craig. He’s just Tyler but on heroin.

"Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes"

*laughs in Pigface*

2020 is music's metoo, I'm glad

"Still sucks to see the "wait for the facts people" still out there." [2]


I feel like I stayed away from these kinds of bands during their heyday cuz their sound seemed targeted towards young girls, but I didn't think anything of it at the time. I want to see more dirt get spilled and more bands dissolving because of it. We shouldn't teach our generation that this kind of thing is okay and there aren't repercussions.

I don't think we should be hanging these guys by their balls or whatever. I do believe in redemption but it has to be done through actions and education, not through publicist-written apologies.

WHAAAAAT LOL

“I feel like I stayed away from these kinds of bands during their heyday cuz their sound seemed targeted towards young girls, but I didn't think anything of it at the time.”

Same except for these guys. I still maintain that that first album is like a 3.5-4.0 and that they have around 6-7 truly transcendent songs. Their style might be kinda gimmicky but when it worked it fucking worked man.

The Tyler has spoken https://twitter.com/officialtc/status/1301537352490405889

With an apology that basically says "I let fame go to my head anf abised people, i went to counselling tho and faced all my bad memories and stuff but anyway im sorry guys for being a shitty 'influencer'". What a crock of shit. Meanwhile the comment thread has loads of "its in the past now" as well as the texts from the victim saying he was fucking 12 or 14. Fuck off tyler you predatory fuck.

"you can't go screaming rapist until you've at least reported it to the police"

don't make me tap the sign

"The Tyler has spoken
https://twitter.com/officialtc/status/1301537352490405889"

Pretty solid apology tbh. Makes some excuses, but genuinely owns up to shitty behaviour and seems to show genuine remorse.

dude was preying on 12 year olds huh? the apology was shit btw he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did.

Yet another warped tour core band strikes again

"the apology was shit btw he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did."

[2]

^ [3] i've noticed these apologies tend to walk that line so that nothing is really said and it kinda makes the whole argument semantics

"he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did."

I don't think he's doing that at all. I mean, he doesn't go into specifics, because it's a private matter unless the victim wants to talk about it publicly, but he seems to own up to his fuck ups being a product of his own actions and not someone else's.

holy shit he groomed Sam from Marmozets

https://twitter.com/sammarmozets/status/1304274310572449792?s=21

The tweet is unavailable.

“Bring back Michael and throw Hance Alligood in there too”
"Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes"
lol

not gonna lie this kind of firing is pointless for Tyler is the soul of the band. he is (was) indeed amazingly motivated. anyways it felt like he didn't want to make metalcore anymore, so I don't care.

Why many talented people are narcissists?

notagenius where u been, bud? Thought you were never coming back lol

- Get Low

I was depressed for a while and didn't recover until I listened to the new underoath album this year. lol. Thanks for remembering me.

Screw depression! > : (

Glad to see you back. ^.^

Tyler has formed a new band called Emerald Royce which released an EP and two singles last year. this dude is ridiculously tough and crazy ambitious.

i enjoy the emerald royce stuff, but this stuff won't ever sit well with anybody.

When I listen to Fame over Demise again now, I believe this was what Tyler really thought and believed inside.

https://youtu.be/_YmDcCpD1gc

How hard is it, people?

I also enjoy emerald royce. I'm even secretly happy that he hasn't disappeared because of the scandals. Damn, he's really talented and hard working. It's hard for me to really hate someone like that even in the presence of revolting ambition and hurt.

Need to check Emerald Royce; Tyler is an amazing vocalist. I don't care about the accusations.

you don't care about statutory rape because shitty scene musician 'sings well'?

damn what a scumbag

Nice. Well spotted, Sint.

you realise no one likes you right? fucking weirdo

You are not exceptionally popular yourself.

i'm not simping for rapists mate

like take a fucking look at yourself, aren't you like 30?

like your schtick would be cringy if you were 15 but you're a grown fucking man acting like this, like jesus christ what do you actually do with your life

presumption of innocence etc etc this shit is so boring at this point

whats boring is simping for rapists

actually wait its not boring its disgusting

have to wonder if there are skeletons in your closet maybe?

Only a child would confuse personal life with professional life. the grown-ups can distinguish between these two. The MeToo movements over the years are confusing these things wildly. If you are listening to music, then keep it in the scope of music by keeping it professional. am I allow to like his music while I don't like him as a person?

personal life/professional career is the jonny craig macbook scam or random nft-promoting c-list musicians, not someone who groomed and raped people, using their profession and authority to do so

listen to the music w/e, i still listen to brand new, but don't fucking defend the shitstain

Yes, I'm with you. I think Get Low is in line with us on this point. He/she didn't defend Tyler.
one more effective way should be making people especially the young ones realize that one's fame and status is not the same as one's personhood, do you agree?

get low is such a massive waste of life its amazing.

"have to wonder if there are skeletons in your closet maybe?"
lmfao ive always felt this. get massive creepy vibes from him.

manchild with arrested development whose shit taste revolves around music that only 13 year olds could think is worth a damn might have skeletons in his closet

if so then I also have skeletons in my closet

"Yes, I'm with you. I think Get Low is in line with us on this point. He/she didn't defend Tyler."

I actually am defending Tyler, but what I'm defending is the presumption of his innocence. If I knew without a shadow of a doubt that he did the things he was accused of, I would not be defending those actions.

genuine question why do you even bother coming here

good god wth man he pretty much admitted it himself.

"good god wth man he pretty much admitted it himself."

Okay, well if so, then I do not defend his actions. I still like him as an artist though, as do you.

neck

I don't know if sputnik's report button actually works or not. Anyway, from now on I'll report any personal attacks I see.

It does work

Tyler could rape and kill a person and Get Low would still probably listen to him lol

yea just like people still sing about sid vicious how amazing
alright guys I know you mean no harm. prob just want his attentions. let us give such fun flirtation or whatever a break okay?

notagenius confirmed get low alt. dont defend him bruh dude is a bigoted piece of shit this is only the tip of the iceberg

Never realized Get Low was such a piece of shit,

Took you this long?

“Only a child would confuse personal life with professional life. the grown-ups can distinguish between these two. The MeToo movements over the years are confusing these things wildly.“

Go fuck yourself.

I don’t read every thread Jay and the ones I read I’m liable to skip through.

lmao i didnt even see that comment yikes def a get low alt

"am I allow to like his music while I don't like him as a person?"
this is perfectly fine just dont go on a thread about the issue and be like STILL LOVE THE MUSIC THOUGH DONT CARE HE RAPED SOMEONE

like my favorite musician has a whole documentary series about him being horrible but i dont go around bumping threads calling him daddy anymore. its just unnecessary and stirs up emotions for people.

this is one of the worst threads of all time

ah wow let me put it together, it's me who still likes Tyler and put it on this thread. If there has to be a creepy one, I am the creepy one not Get Low alright? I am not his alt.

now now, you can BOTH be creepy

Well, I guess I'm gonna have a hard time convincing you if you keep making snap judgments like that, whatever you say. (But in fact, it was me.)

Band's farewell song is absolute dogshit

good thread